@@oofink467its definitely that. She already has the ID, having a sync EGO would be redundant, as cool as it'd be. Maybe it might fire more than once though, cause otherwise I dont know how they'll balance it with the 7th bullet return fire just being like "Ok I just won't ego and will use her s3 instead to not pop"
for outis ego, its seems really likely that theres a unique animation for each stack of magic bullet she has on herself, with each one having different effects/attack weight (especially since theres 7 seperate bullet animations, and the 7th animation has outis shoot herself) So the ego would start with outis aiming, then play the coresponding animation depending on her magic bullet stack (ex: if she has 3 bullets, she plays the anim where she shoots 3 bullets come out the ground) She prob also gains bullets from the ego itself as well as from the id
Love it when the EGO has an equipment ID for the same character, makes it feel like you're playing with a boss with a super move. As for the full-stop IDs though, before I thought it would be late-game at best before they started introducing redundancies in the IDs, but clearly that is not the case. Going to have to rewrite my theories for Walpurgis IDs.
The animation for Outis played out almost exactly same as Angela's Magic Bullet fight so my best guess is that it just 7 different animation for each bullet shot
The animations for Outis’ EGO don’t play smoothly, there’s a noticeable interruption at certain points, so they’re likely just different stages like Magic Bullet Outis’ S3. I counted either 5 or 7, depending on if the two sequences where the bullets fired at the enemies from below their feet are separate stages or if they were continuations of the animations before them. There was an interruption between these sequences, so they might be different stages from one another. I just found it odd since it went from side shots, to floor shots, back to side shots, then floor shots again. The animations for the IDs aren’t too elaborate, but I love them. They feel like they’d be pretty cool playing alongside all the other combat animations that are going on simultaneously onscreen. Plus, Heathcliff’s got his one big attack with his S3 that monopolizes all your attention, while Hong Lu comes off like a smooth operator who’s zipping in and out everywhere while Heathcliff provides cover fire.
I feel like the Magic Bullet E.G.O will have direct synergy with the Magic Bullet ID, where it‘ll share the same Magic Bullet count with the ID, Each stage of magic bullet using a different animation for the E.G.O like in the LOR realization.
@ I believe KJH mentioned in the road map stream that the EGO was meant to boost the ID, so I imagine it’ll somehow help Outis with her Magic Bullet acquisition rate.
I really like that they made Heathcliff actually still provide attacks while on the support list. This makes him on the waiting list much more bearable unlike the Devyats. It seems like Hong Lu will have a reload function like Lament Yi Sang but it might not be able to keep up with how much he spends on his attacks.
My personal theory on how the Magic bullet will work is that it is a relatively cheap ego that can be spammed, gradually ramping up in power and the 7th bullet does major damage, the only caveat is that the 7th does great damage to both the enemy AND YOURSELF, like singlehandedly kill or stagger levels of damage
It might be a combination of ruina reference and magic bullet outis uptie story In case you didn’t know, outis said to der that the 7th bullet will hit herself, for she is the one she care the most
From what I can tell this EGOs coin count and attack weight will be linked to Outis's current number of Bullets she has stockpiled with the EGO also providing an extra bullet. If you have max bullets just like in lore it will backfire and the last bullet will kill her. This is huge for Burn teams because that means a single ego use could stack 5 or more black flame stacks when also including her regular skills.
i swear to god, rabbit Heath should learn to use the knife when out of bullet....it's Rabbit for crying out loud, they are supposed to be elite no fearing death cause of their singularity.
I think poise is supposed to be our smoke equivilent, unfortunately. The icon is similar and they provide similar functions of increasing damage. Also the abno Steam Transport Machine gets a lot of poise for releasing "steam". So these gear worshippers will probably be poise units.
@@Hebleh As a stage effect you mean? I could see that becoming a thing especially if we ever get back to Gregor or Outis and learn more about the smoke war.
The targeting logic for Outis' Magic Bullet seems to be 1:1 the logic in the Realization fight for the Floor of Technological Sciences, and seems to be 7 different attacks based on some conditional (likely her amount of bullets, or chance), but since there's no positioning like in Ruina it seems to counts the main target as it would the Patron Librarian and the others depends on the attack weight, which seems to change between 1, 3, and 5.
So we fight the gear guys and the background isn’t a reception so do we get thrown right in the middle of the church assassination that led full stop to library do we run into argyile? or maybe he just watches us instead of interacting
@@Plaugus_Screenzthat would be so cool and after we get back to the door he stops due to his priority being the full stop office or he can't open it for plot reasons
There are 7 animations reflecting the 7 attacks used in Library of Ruina so it's likely that they're 7 completely seperate attacks used depending on how many stacks of magic bullet she has (synergizing with her magic bullet ID)
I think the follow-up attacks work a bit like Yurodivy Ryoshu. If you stagger a enemy after triggering the passive Heathcliff will give support fire, even after retreating. As for Outis EGO, did they really just turn the entire Freischütz boss moveset into an EGO? It will for shure use Dark Flame like the ID, but anything else? No plan.
I think Outis' ego is meant to be a risk reward mechanic where the more bullets you have the better the attack is, but if it reaches the 7th bullet then she probably shoots herself with the bullet.
10:27 I wouldn’t be surprised if Smoke comes back for some ids in Ryoshu’s Canto, and not just because she smokes a lot. A lot of her base Id and ego revolve around dealing and taking more damage, so I wouldn’t be shocked to see Smoke return where you deal 5% more damage, but also take 5% more damage per stack, and considering unbreakable coins are now a thing…
Well she learned how to create smoke animals and other stuff recently maybe she will get something similar to moses pipe/ a moses I'd later down the line
Wait, considering the timing of the Full Stop office fighting the Church of Gears, does that mean we’re going to get shredded by the Blue Reverberation at the end of the encounter?
Im a little bit confused on what is the criteria for a Walpurgis ID. kim and molar office olga came out as an Event ID while full stop is a walpurgis?. Does that mean fullstop no longer exist in the current timeline?
Yknow the funny part on this, this might not be multiple animations for magic bullet in one skill. This is an ego synchronization just like the ego page in ruina.
So I think the Magic Bullet E.G.O changes every time you use it or something like that, there's a lot of cuts during the animation so I think they're splicing multiple clips together
I imagine that because of the Lore. You ALWAYS shoot yourself. Like a nuke or a finisher. In LoR this E.G.O never miss but you can't stop firing unless you kill yourself
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seeing hong lus long ass pv is one thing, then following up with like a minute long magic bullet ego is WILD.
I bet it will have like 3 or 4 forms
It might actually be ego synchronization. There is no way all seven bullets happen at once
@@shardtherox or it has a different animation based on how many bullets u have
@@oofink467its definitely that. She already has the ID, having a sync EGO would be redundant, as cool as it'd be. Maybe it might fire more than once though, cause otherwise I dont know how they'll balance it with the 7th bullet return fire just being like "Ok I just won't ego and will use her s3 instead to not pop"
Seeing Heathcliff in a black suit scared the living hell out of me for a second. Thought he was a washed up grade 9 fixer
We’re about urban nightmare level in the story, nowhere close to color fixer level yet
@RukiaChinq I'm aware
It’s closest thing to having a black silence id :c
Bullets from atelier logic!
@@mao38 What about them?
I do like that Outis kept her promise of making the 7th bullet hit herself
It's also a reference to Angela's realization when she's using magic bullet, where she would shoot herself during certain circumstances
Its also a reference to the German play Der Frieschutz, where the shooter's last bullet shoots himself
@@demonthegamer3624 specifically if you survive the 7 pages she uses, the 8th page she uses shoots herself.
for outis ego, its seems really likely that theres a unique animation for each stack of magic bullet she has on herself, with each one having different effects/attack weight (especially since theres 7 seperate bullet animations, and the 7th animation has outis shoot herself)
So the ego would start with outis aiming, then play the coresponding animation depending on her magic bullet stack (ex: if she has 3 bullets, she plays the anim where she shoots 3 bullets come out the ground)
She prob also gains bullets from the ego itself as well as from the id
Yes
Love it when the EGO has an equipment ID for the same character, makes it feel like you're playing with a boss with a super move. As for the full-stop IDs though, before I thought it would be late-game at best before they started introducing redundancies in the IDs, but clearly that is not the case. Going to have to rewrite my theories for Walpurgis IDs.
Rabbit heath joins potential man in early retirement (outdone both in charge by MultiCrack and now outdone in ammo by Fullstop)
Ok the way Hong Lu and Heath just work together is peak. True peak. Keep cooking PM.
The animation for Outis played out almost exactly same as Angela's Magic Bullet fight so my best guess is that it just 7 different animation for each bullet shot
Ruina shooter ego has a SYNCHRONIZE thing which makes you able to EXIST in ego form, maybe that’s her skills in ego form
Would be fun, you would use the EGO, and for 3 turns after you would be able to only use that EGO on Outis slots
I’m guessing it depends on magic bullet count on Outis, with it providing Magic Bullet per pride resonance or smth when used
@@PeteandRepeat1are you from the future
The animations for Outis’ EGO don’t play smoothly, there’s a noticeable interruption at certain points, so they’re likely just different stages like Magic Bullet Outis’ S3. I counted either 5 or 7, depending on if the two sequences where the bullets fired at the enemies from below their feet are separate stages or if they were continuations of the animations before them. There was an interruption between these sequences, so they might be different stages from one another. I just found it odd since it went from side shots, to floor shots, back to side shots, then floor shots again.
The animations for the IDs aren’t too elaborate, but I love them. They feel like they’d be pretty cool playing alongside all the other combat animations that are going on simultaneously onscreen. Plus, Heathcliff’s got his one big attack with his S3 that monopolizes all your attention, while Hong Lu comes off like a smooth operator who’s zipping in and out everywhere while Heathcliff provides cover fire.
I feel like the Magic Bullet E.G.O will have direct synergy with the Magic Bullet ID, where it‘ll share the same Magic Bullet count with the ID, Each stage of magic bullet using a different animation for the E.G.O like in the LOR realization.
@ I believe KJH mentioned in the road map stream that the EGO was meant to boost the ID, so I imagine it’ll somehow help Outis with her Magic Bullet acquisition rate.
I really like that they made Heathcliff actually still provide attacks while on the support list. This makes him on the waiting list much more bearable unlike the Devyats. It seems like Hong Lu will have a reload function like Lament Yi Sang but it might not be able to keep up with how much he spends on his attacks.
These new IDs and ego look like they're gonna be cracked. Next week can't come soon enough.
Healthcliff: "I need more bullet! I need more bullet!"
It would be very funny if so called "smoke" will be implemented as Poise, hehe)))
Poise but increased crit dmg rather than rate
it would be unique poise ig
I mean poise is literally named smoke in the game files so I genuinely don’t know how they’ll even seperate it ingame
@@shardtheroxthey name smoke poise
@@shardtherox they'd just make unique smoke lol
The duo run for this two ID in Mirror Dungeon will be nuts. But also, hard to manage 😅
Winrate!
4:09 i dont think this ego will use multiple coins those were just showcase depending to her magic bullet stacks just my speculation
My personal theory on how the Magic bullet will work is that it is a relatively cheap ego that can be spammed, gradually ramping up in power and the 7th bullet does major damage, the only caveat is that the 7th does great damage to both the enemy AND YOURSELF, like singlehandedly kill or stagger levels of damage
I think the shooting yourself is based off der gimmick where the final bullet hits the personal the user cares for
It might be a combination of ruina reference and magic bullet outis uptie story
In case you didn’t know, outis said to der that the 7th bullet will hit herself, for she is the one she care the most
@@Rehoblackdas cooll
From what I can tell this EGOs coin count and attack weight will be linked to Outis's current number of Bullets she has stockpiled with the EGO also providing an extra bullet. If you have max bullets just like in lore it will backfire and the last bullet will kill her. This is huge for Burn teams because that means a single ego use could stack 5 or more black flame stacks when also including her regular skills.
i swear to god, rabbit Heath should learn to use the knife when out of bullet....it's Rabbit for crying out loud, they are supposed to be elite no fearing death cause of their singularity.
What’s r corps sing again?
@@PiggiiesStilar Replication... Basically cloning
@@doomslayer5662 oh
@@PiggiiesStilar not only cloning, the way they use it basically beat out any fear or hesitation out of them too.
@ jeez
you need BOTH Heathcliff and Hong Lu ID to work, its literally build in the passive, FIRE SUPPORT
Heatcliff is the first sinner to experience powercrept via bullet gain
yeah im pretty sure it's like amount of bullets outis has the different the attack is
I think poise is supposed to be our smoke equivilent, unfortunately. The icon is similar and they provide similar functions of increasing damage. Also the abno Steam Transport Machine gets a lot of poise for releasing "steam". So these gear worshippers will probably be poise units.
We could still get Smoke as an additional effect later similar to how Bloodfeast has been implemented
@@Hebleh As a stage effect you mean? I could see that becoming a thing especially if we ever get back to Gregor or Outis and learn more about the smoke war.
"Smoke is back" is when you are out of Zyns
The targeting logic for Outis' Magic Bullet seems to be 1:1 the logic in the Realization fight for the Floor of Technological Sciences, and seems to be 7 different attacks based on some conditional (likely her amount of bullets, or chance), but since there's no positioning like in Ruina it seems to counts the main target as it would the Patron Librarian and the others depends on the attack weight, which seems to change between 1, 3, and 5.
So we fight the gear guys and the background isn’t a reception so do we get thrown right in the middle of the church assassination that led full stop to library do we run into argyile? or maybe he just watches us instead of interacting
He is the time limit for the runs of the event
Beat in x turns before argalia gets here
@@Plaugus_Screenzthat would be so cool and after we get back to the door he stops due to his priority being the full stop office or he can't open it for plot reasons
@@azeria1 Honestly, if Argalia appears it will be so hype, plus it's not very far into library story so it wouldn't be that big of a spoiler.
POISE LU! THE POISE LU IS REAL!
It is the year 2040 burn now has 20 walpurgis Ids and 15 walpurgis egos.
I think Hong Lu has a clashable counter and he reloads after using it. The attack he does before reloading doesn't look like any of his other attacks.
There are 7 animations reflecting the 7 attacks used in Library of Ruina so it's likely that they're 7 completely seperate attacks used depending on how many stacks of magic bullet she has (synergizing with her magic bullet ID)
I think the follow-up attacks work a bit like Yurodivy Ryoshu. If you stagger a enemy after triggering the passive Heathcliff will give support fire, even after retreating.
As for Outis EGO, did they really just turn the entire Freischütz boss moveset into an EGO? It will for shure use Dark Flame like the ID, but anything else? No plan.
So far so great. I am really in hype for this Walpurgis!
My Lunacy savings are in great danger... but whatever the cost all of them will be mine
NUTSACK ANNOUNCER LETS GO
26k lunacy all going into him.
I think Outis' ego is meant to be a risk reward mechanic where the more bullets you have the better the attack is, but if it reaches the 7th bullet then she probably shoots herself with the bullet.
outis is either a 7 coin overpowered skill or a single coin skill and your never seeing that seventh bullet
10:27 I wouldn’t be surprised if Smoke comes back for some ids in Ryoshu’s Canto, and not just because she smokes a lot. A lot of her base Id and ego revolve around dealing and taking more damage, so I wouldn’t be shocked to see Smoke return where you deal 5% more damage, but also take 5% more damage per stack, and considering unbreakable coins are now a thing…
Well she learned how to create smoke animals and other stuff recently maybe she will get something similar to moses pipe/ a moses I'd later down the line
I think the EGO changes depending on how many times it’s used.
The new id kit look very promising and fun . The EGO tho . OGM it so fricking sick , 7 head for 7 bullet + Ortis life .
Wait, considering the timing of the Full Stop office fighting the Church of Gears, does that mean we’re going to get shredded by the Blue Reverberation at the end of the encounter?
All the fights so far have been the library fights, so its prolly church of gears in netzach floor
46 seconds ago is crazy
Also there is a rooded up and large version of the meat gears
Outis peak!
Is it just me or Heathcliff is obvious 00 turned into 000? Idk how to feel about it.
no, i mean its just a gun id, they can't do much about it, the animations look better than most 000 tho
What do you mean by this? I think he looks quite good
I feel the same for devyat sinclair, i believe it because of the uptype 3 art look like it should be static image
Im a little bit confused on what is the criteria for a Walpurgis ID. kim and molar office olga came out as an Event ID while full stop is a walpurgis?. Does that mean fullstop no longer exist in the current timeline?
Outis ego looks like your gonna synchronize mbullet for a set amount of turns with that much anims
Peak Outis(Wife) E.G.O.
Yknow the funny part on this, this might not be multiple animations for magic bullet in one skill. This is an ego synchronization just like the ego page in ruina.
So I think the Magic Bullet E.G.O changes every time you use it or something like that, there's a lot of cuts during the animation so I think they're splicing multiple clips together
Time to get magic bullet instead of magic bullet
I doubt they have smoke (i hope they do) i think itll be just poise probably, and for outis i think she will get more coins per bullets
When does it come out?
bandage ego for a bandage id
The way your pronounced Netzach threw me off so hard
Is it me or walprugisnacht usually brings AOE stages/IDS/E.G.Os
They're timed events, why would they not release better IDs to incentivize more pulling? Especially since they're only shardable on the next wpn
Not a fan they picked that ID for Heathcliff him using a sniper is very unfitting to his character.
I imagine that because of the Lore. You ALWAYS shoot yourself. Like a nuke or a finisher.
In LoR this E.G.O never miss but you can't stop firing unless you kill yourself
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