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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2019
- This morning, Home Minister Amit Shah made an announcement in Rajya Sabha seeking to revoke Article 370 of the Constitution that grants special status to Jammu & Kashmir.
Article 370 has often been the subject of intense debate and discussion. On December 18, 2015, a debate was held at the Constitution Club of India between Dr Subramanian Swamy and lawyer Ram Jethmalani on whether or not Article 370 of the Indian Constitution should be scrapped. The debate was organised by the Indian Union Debate Forum and moderated by Newslaundry CEO Abhinandan Sekhri.
Dr Swamy emphasised the importance of integrating the state of Jammu & Kashmir with the rest of India, explaining how this can be done only through the removal of Article 370. On the other hand, Jethmalani said amending the article is beyond the power of the Union government of India. He also said the article is important for the state of Jammu & Kashmir and for India as well.
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Ram Jethamlani: am I supporting the motion or opposing. 😂 😂
Ready to fight on both sides.
Rip great lawyer.
If Ram Jethamlani would be supporting the argument, that would have been one sided debate. Personally he supports the abrogation of temporary 370.
I loved that as well. He got up on stage not even knowing which side he is on.
Indeed a lawyer have to ready for fighting both the situation😂😂
Time stamp please
@@maddiraju6083 5:30
This man Subramanian Swamy has the guts to say what he likes to say.
Manju Natha because he has the real facts and everyone is scared who has done wrong
Hahaha
Kashmir is lock down for about 6 months
@@dheerajmangotra1403 kashmiri pandits are homeless for about 30 years. How many crpf, bsf and army personnel died by militants hand not by terrorists but by militant. And how many rupee government spend on Kashmir. Grow up and stop watching Ndtv. Rstv or dd news is more better
@@dheerajmangotra1403 tuje hindu hone pe sharam nhi aati?
@@Rakeshricky151 vo jinah ki najayas aulad hai
Dr. Swamy VS ALL Opposition
Winner: Dr. Swamy 💥😎
Long live Dr Swamy
Usaka lu..d khate ho kya
Smita Swarup
35 seconds ago (edited)
What a terrible legacy to leave for one's family Mr Subramanium Swamy? At your age you should be worried abt what you will be born as in your next life given that you have built a career on hate or do you intend to become immortal? I would have hated to have such an elder in my family,. So glad I don't.
@@smitaswarup8562 why u keep sliding into ebd's comments? Shut the fk up
Sanghis Intellectual susu Swamy..always spreading hate against muslims
Har ki mirchi tikhi lag rahi he logoko iss comments section ko dekhke
Jethmalaani: Swamy is not a lawyer
Swamy (in mind): Still you lost 4 times against me 😂
mention those 4 cases please. I've tried to find the source for a long time but haven't been able to do so.
@@motorprotein1797 jethmalani filled defamation case against swamy thrice and lost all of them
@@omkatyarmal4243 good he is a looser
@John Adams Please show me the records which prove so. The cases ought to be public hm ?
@@motorprotein1797 You have internet do can do your self
This is a 3 year old debate. Old wine in New Bottle. So this is History Now and Dr. Subramanian Swamy has been proved right Legally.
How true it is. Jethmalani was a lawer by his degree but Dr Swamy is a lawyer with kno;edge and immense study of law books. If Dr Swamy appears for a law examination today I am sure he will fly in colours. Degree holders like Manish tiwari , Jethmalani can not stand up to him
he was proven wrong as soon as that old man introduced that book and shown him that there is what swamy was rejecting
@@JollyonInfotech can you please mention timing ? Please
SAS DIARIES oh wow when did that happen? Don’t believe in someone’s interpretation of the law . Understand the law the way it is. And that’s what Dr Swami always say. He is smart, factual and witty. 😂
@Vaibhav Mantri You didn't follow the fundamental logic of why 370 came into existence did you? This is closing the loop, or realizing the reason why 370 came into existence in the first place - which the ruling parties of India never bothered to address because they wanted to win elections not create or protect the integrity of the nation. There is nothing illegal about it, unless you want to feel very erudite as if you have uncovered a fine legal point. Google a response by a retired Indian Supreme Court judge where he lays out why it cannot be challenged.
Jethmalani: 370 is irremovable part of Constitution
Amit Shah: Lol, Hold my Constitution.
Dear bhakt, Article 370 is still there in our Constitution, it had actually been used to dilute the features and not removed.
Mohammad Hadi Raza dear pappu ke chamche, i dont blame you for your weak understanding of the context....
Anyway, when you’re ass is on fire & cant yell... this is the kind of arguments bitches can make.
, u have my sympathies
Wack Of All Trades some for yourself ?
@@wackofalltrades6346 lol you should have sympathies for yourselves.
@@wackofalltrades6346 actually he is right. Art 370(1) states jk is integral part of india. It is continue still now. Just clauses of art 370 repealed.
*Former IPS Officer says:-*
I was so upbeat when Shashi Tharoor came into politics in 2009. I still remember talking to so many of my NRI friends on how the politics of India will change for better with highly accomplished people and intelligent people like him joining politics. Then by 2013, I was disillusioned with congress and felt Anna Hazare supported by IITian Kejriwal, IPS Kiran Bedi, great actor Aamir Khan will usher in a new change in India. I even donated to India against corruption, went to Ramlila maidaan to shout slogans
*Now if I look back at it, the only thing I can do is laugh at myself. But I am happy that I realised the biggest flaw in my thinking. The reason we support people like Shashi Tharoor or a Kejriwal is they are well educated. We are brainwashed from childhood that education is equal to goodness*.
*NO, IT IS NOT*.
*Chidambaram is MBA from Harvard and we all know what he did. Mani Shankar Aiyar is from Cambridge - We all know what kind of rubbish he speaks. Kapil Sibal is Harvard Law graduate and all he does is write mercy petitions for terrorists*.
*It is not that congress didn’t have highly educated people in the party. There were lots of them but they were all crooks. And a highly educated crook is even more dangerous as he can dupe you in even more innovative ways*.
Everyone from *Islamic invaders to Britishers* were supported by *highly educated and intelligent* Indians. Yes, you need them to lord over the country? So *the rulers of India cultivated a group of crooks who were well read to rule over us and keep us poor. And Chachaji and his family also continued this trend and cultivated a group of highly educated crooks to rule India. Today we call this group as Lootyens as they stay in an area called Lutyens in Delhi and loot us.*
*What is the change that BJP and Modi brought into politics?*
*It made jokers like me realise that IVY LEAGUE DEGREES doesn’t make you a patriot, inculcate honesty or bring goodness.*
*But people who cultivate character, personality on the basis of ethos of Culture and civilisation of India have patriotism and goodness in them*.
*Do this experiment if you don’t believe me:*
*You go into any random RSS Shaka in any part of the country and any time in the year*.
*And see what they teach those students - Patriotism, Service, Goodness, Honesty and Simplicity.*
*It is done every day and all throughout the year.*
*Tell me which Ivy League Univ, IIT, IIM, St Stephens, Doon school or any school where you pay lakhs of rupees as fees teach it?*
*I have been to world’s top Universities, have 6 degrees but no where my education taught me patriotism or goodness*.
*It is my dad who taught me and the books I read written by Swami Vivekananda or the man I idolise Shaheed Bhagat Singh who did this.*
*RSS shakhas do it for all the Sangh goers everyday. Hence people like Modi are so patriotic and honest. I don’t care if he went to school or he has MA or not.*
*A person who reads Swami Vivekanand or goes to a RSS Shaka is any day better than a crook with IIT or Harvard degree.*
*Yes that is what we need to realise.*
*Believe in your own ethos or the goodness of your own country. You will any day be better than believing in those degrees
Oof Bhagat Singh 😂😂 man in your patriotic rant, you literally cited a communist as your inspiration. Try reading a book before you come forward with such takes. Waise jaisa take hai tumhara lagta hai nai ki koi kitab padho ge toh samajh aye gi bhi but try kar lo
And BJP is giving premature release to rapist in bilkis bano case is this right what will you say on this and now Swamy is against BJP
Bro kitna pesa milta h ye copypaste karne ka?
Less educated se acha more educated hi hai, agar wo kuch galat karte h to public obviously unko hara degi agle elections mai
Now coming to the point of kejriwal, he will be free soon. I think these old school politicians were jealous of aam aadmi party because of the image he build up around the people, he brought some new topics of discussion in politics which people always wanted. Neither the Congress nor the BJP ever invested in Education in fact BJP reduced it. Though according to NEP they wish to increase it but i thinks that's just a jumla acc to mota bhai. In case of kejriwal who is investing 25℅ of delhi revenue per year in education (it's too much in my opinion). He believes in the indian's talent whereas these khangressis and chaddis don't or it seems that they want to control india for a long period with a controlled growth rate (as they wish) just like giving nuts to a daily wage worker/slave.
Felt same way he did. Felt ashamed of myself for disrespecting less educated, belittling my mother tongue and always struggling to be someone i never was.
Subramanyam Swamy is the greatest person of our era. I bow my head before him
*"Irremovable part of Indian Constitution"* : Ram Jethmalaani
*_"Lol"_* : Amit Shah (5th august, 2019)
Class 👌
Well if one wants to do whatever he likes...then certainly he can do anything but then there will be consequences...by taking this step ,bjp has made its future pretty secure but kashmiris after feeling that india can deal them in whatever way it wants, are not going to be quiet for sure.
In short, we have just made it worse.
@@disliketheclickbaits8858 arey chutiye , zyada kashmiri mat karo, kabhi pundits ka bhi naam lo , aaj kashmir main terrorist activities kam hain aur kashmiris ko chutiya banaya ja raha hain 70 years se toh zyada polished english main apna chutiyapa mat dikha
@@yoyomodiji are uska kaise bol dega unko kabhi unke bate mein pta nahi pada nahi .bas angrezi pel di ho gya.
@@disliketheclickbaits8858 we have made things clear.
Sawmi thinking on 370 in 2015 is same way govt apply 5 aug 2019....boss of knowledge ekka swamy
@Sushmita Rathore who r u and what r u to stir the issue of reservation at this juncture
@Sushmita Rathore bahut galat baat bol di tumne. Tum jo bhi ho tumhare dimag ka ilaj karana chahiye. Jo mere bhai ko kuch kahega uske uski aukat dikhane me piche nahi rahenge.
@Sushmita Rathore jub tak tum jaise log ye samjhege ki reservation cast basis par isliye he kyuki tumhari mentality 500 saal purani he. Jub tak tum insaan ko insaan nahi samjhoge reservation chalu rahega. Garib to.rajput or brahmin bhi hota he magar tum unko gali dete nahi ho. Jab cast gali bani hui he to reservation bhi chalu rahega.
@Sushmita Rathore ha me nakli sharma hu magar asli Hindustani or hindu hu. Jo hindu he mera bhai he baki uske karmo ka phal bhagwan dega...
@Sushmita Rathore www
That’s called a healthy debate looks like ✌️
It's very rare to find this class of intellectuals/veterans of different fields in one show ❤️👍
I only see one intellectuals/veterans. Rest are just rats trying to divide our nation with what ever means they have.
Swamy is on Spot ..Everything what he predicted is as accordingly
Ram Jethmalani clearly won the debate. Did you see how visibly nervous your swamy was at the end after Ram Jethmalani read out the J&K Constitution, that shut Swamy's mouth. hahahahahaaa
@@myngnas007 Ram Jethamlani was just a puppet of some political leaders . Swamy is totally independent in the real means
He always speaks like this ,He is the only brave and straightforward person in Indian Politics
@@myngnas007 If Jethamlani had spitted the truth then how could Art370 be Removed by Our gov . Swamy was absolutely right that and indeed it was just a temporary provision and it was being tried to make it a permanent by giving the reference of fear to people of J&K . Now 370 is gone and so as Jethamlani so there is no debate about his being right or wrong . He was a political bootlicker and will always remembered as a Cunning Lawyer who did anything for his profit without thinking anything about Country
Myn Gnax Enty ramjethmalani was defeated by swamy in 2g scam case
Dr Annem Narayana Reddy is the Young PhD student in IISC came from remote area and studied in govt school
If Subramanyam Swamy is not a lawyer Then Ramanujan was not a mathematician 😅😅😅
Naveen Parashar he is not a lawyer as in he doesn't have a degree in law. He studied law separately.
@@erasernet900 You didn't understand the sarcasm.
Moreever Even Ramanujan didn't hold any degree when he was alive.
Degrees awarded to Ramanujan by Trinity college later for the work in his notebook.
Naveen Parashar tbh i really didn't got your sarcasm.
👌👌🙏🙏😂😂😂😂😂
Ad hominen remarks indulged in here should be off the table!
9:41 best part starts here.
Constitution was made by people and not by gods which they made according to situations best suitable for majority people. Its need to be changing as time changes.
Thanks @newslaundry for putting up such a civil debate! i remember watching it when it had released earlier! really appreciate the forum, format and the decorum that the delegates maintained! Hope to see more of such debates, especially in today's time when news channels are killing the meaning of the word 'debate'!
నా అబిమాన రాజకీయ నాయకులు లొ సుబ్రహ్మణ్యం స్వామి ఒకరు
Thank u so much swamiji( from andra )
U have great knowledge
To shut down mouth of psudo secularists
Thank you from bihar
నమస్తే తెలుగోడా!
@@osoemparado3958 నమస్తే అన్న
@@DkDk-ek9wm నిండు నూరేళ్ళు వర్ధిల్లన్నా.. తెలుగు భాషని బ్రతికిస్తున్నావ్. అభినందనీయం.
@@osoemparado3958 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Liked the way Ram Jethmalani asked whether he was supposed to support Dr Subramanian Swamy or to oppose him. He clearly gave indication that he has both speeches ready. Both exactly opposite each other. Meaning experts can mold the law and facts the way they want. Meaning, there is no need to pay attention to them!!!!
Very well pointed out.
That's not what he meant by that statement. He was asking if his position (that he opposes the abrogation) was the motion of the debate or in opposition to the motion.
On the spot
@@sushantvijayan just like you are trying to mold what Jethmalani said to support your point of view. 😂
@@sushantvijayan ok. Thanks.
Manish Tiwari be like: At what time did I decide to come for this debate 😂
Super speech & brilliant
Very very handsome thoughts
Excellent speeches of great ramjathmalani & subramanian swamy & others very very handsome conversation unbeatable
But we need to do some other things
Under the guidance of great senior
LAW HERO'S the debate with media
was so impressive & excellent really
Amazing & proudable in Aap ki Aalat
(Law ki Adalat) thanks lord we have brilliant handsome & heartly beautiful human rights in our country
What is the next path to our country
It's my Question to law personalities
Let's think pardon to say eat health&
Think better swarg se Sundar
Satyam shivam sundaram we have
full of brilliant talented excellent handsome beautiful hero's& heroien's where we are?let's bring
One more realistic Episode
5:50 Dr. Subramanian Swamy is not a lawyer but he has defeated Ram Jethmalani in court 4 times. Dr. Swamy was contesting as lawyer & never let him win single case in court.
Dr. Swamy does not plead for money. He fights for public interest & principal
Which 4 cases?
He was always behind the Gandhi family... otherwise his own party don't take him seriously
@@saurabhtiwari5585 Dr. Swamy has fought over 30 cases in court and has not lost one case (including 2G case). Dr. Swamy proves that law is also about truth. Not just being cunning with words & law. With respect to 4 cases, please do your own home work. Dr. Swamy has its own history...challenge by big lawyers.... end up winning every time.
HE IS LIVING SYMBOL "Satya Mev Jayte."
@@Nokapp23 He was simply asking.. You did him dirty
He fights for hindus interest
Subramanyam's prediction been totally correct like on 370, ram mandir
His aura is awesome....
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Roots in Nagpur
@@MrChakarias he is not rss member not complete bjp member. He only cares for nationalism and hindutva
One like for swamiji.He is Bold and intelligent and never stays away from speaking his mind.
"Swami is real real swami".
Dr. Swamy always wins as his arguments are sound and mostly way ahead of the time. This debate in 2015 shows how much conviction he has. He is the real Chanakya 2.0!!
True
Yes bro he is really Chanakya 2.0
Dr Swami is the true gem of Bharatvarsh. He must be given Bharat Ratna. 🙏
True
Not true. Many a times he had to accept supremacy of a few who he cd not beat bcoz of lack of intelligence n logic.
This is how a civilised debate should be
Great
I agree. This was a delight to watch, although I wished at times Dr. Swamy would let go of his bitter personal remarks in order to delegitimize his challenges.
@@buttofthejoke true, as the man (SS) ages he is becoming more and more childish
We definitely need more of this.
Anon A speaking the truth doesn’t make him childish everyone makes personal attacks, by your logic Rahul Gandhi is an unborn foetus
It's a treat to watch two legends.... specially Dr swamy..... just fantastic
Wow .. awesome debate..i hope some news channels will learn from these law students ,how debates should be conducted..🔥🔥
Love subramaniam Swamy. He’s the best.
Don’t know why modi hasn’t made him a cabinet minister. He’s the best
If he become minister..... He Wil not even listen Modi words in respect of his ministry......... Then problem to Party also
Problem is swamy never listens to anyone.. he will even oppose modi if necessary
He should be made finance minister
@@slappy9705 its good only...
@afriend depends upon how one treats him...
Mr. Swami is Greatest Personality of this era. So fearless, So frank, Extremely knowledgeable and true nationalist. Respect sir... 🙏
But only problem is that he lies through his teeth
Swampy is married to a PARSI and his daughter is married to a Muslim and he SPEWS VENOM on Muslims.
He is a mann with laudable and adorable PERSONALITY. My salute to him
Unless mankind settles psychologically, will remain vulnerable to conflict and division. An invisible screen called BELIEF, THE CATARACT of the mind must go. We may have well heeled people in their best attire and eloquently brilliant, but an eerie silence of TRUTH and INTELLIGENCE is deafeningly LOUD and CLEAR.
If such an enlightening and productive discussions happen in parliament instead of cheap discussions India would be the first place ever in world.. jai hind
May be Manish Tiwari thinks that constitution is indhira gandhi.. Indira gandhi is constitution.. Awesome punch 👏👏👏😀
He is another crackpot of congress. They don't have brains and follow Gandhi dynasty's instructions. Restrictions shld be imposed on such people opposing the move, and art 370, 35a shld remain in effect for them.
Bhakts thinks that Amit Shah is the constitution.
You see, that's the thing about debates. When your arguments are based on using emotions and personal attacks, it might help you with over the layman, but weakens your essence of a debate and the strength of your arguments.
Dr Subrahmanyam swamy is a great nationalist. He is fearless in not only expressing his feelings but also in actions. We Indians are lucky in having a great nationalist.
Congress is a chutiya party
Sawmi thinking on 370 in 2015 is same way govt apply 5 aug 2019.
Jethmalani: 370 can't be removed
Amit Shah: OK, hold my ****
Swamy is more of a lawyer than jethmalani would ever be.
And your comment proves you'll never be a lawyer 😂
@@OfficiallyOfficialHD Lmaooo dumbass like you would support corrupt people like jethmalani. 😂
@@katoknabino1015 you're probably as lunatic & delusion like Swamy😂 You don't need to support someone to know their credentials. It's a fact, whether you agree or not.
@@OfficiallyOfficialHD get the hell out of here what do you know about swamy? He was a professor in Havard unlike the pseudo literates in the Congress
@@ankitde7472
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Now its the time to congratulate Swamy ji .You won .🙏🇮🇳💪👍
Ram Jethmalani clearly won the debate. Do you see how visibly nervous your swamy at the end after Ram Jethmalani read out the J&K Constitution, that shut Swamy's mouth. hahahahahaaa
@@myngnas007 You got it wrong bro .
@@myngnas007 😂😂😂 dil ko behlane ke liye khayal achcha hai 🤣🤣
@@myngnas007 kiddo he is talking about ram mandir moron
@@myngnas007 damn you reply to every comment in support of Swamy. I have seen at least 5 till now
There is a sagely saying "IT IS EASIER TO MAKE A THING LEGAL THAN TO MAKE IT LEGITIMATE".
It saddens me that the current Congis NEVER EVER remembers or mentions great stalwarts of their own party like Sardar Vallabhai Patel, Lalbahadur Shastri, Morarji Desai, PV Narasimha Rao, and many other state leaders.
not narsimha rao he was a corrupt PM
Thank you Sir, Subramanyam ji, this will help me and coming generation, when they come to know reality. 🙏
Now is NRC next is uniform civil code !! Swami ji on winning streak
Dr Subramanyam has proved that he is a great visionary. He was the first person who spoke about the abrogation of 370 section with conviction and now on 5th August 2019 his words have come true.
Long live Doctor
He was not the first! P.M.Modi and Atal Bihari Vajpayee did it long back before they even came to power!
I think he was also the first man to come with 2g scam corruption in public before '2014 election' 😅
Great vision !
This is a nice debate. Loved the emotion and intelligence the two greats. Loved to watch
Very well moderated and brilliantly done debate. Both parties were calm and expressed their view nicely. Occasional teasing of opposition was also great.
Ramji it's been Removed on August 2019...
Swamiji it's done Thanks for your contributions !!!🙏🇮🇳
I always admire swami voice,❤️
@@Roy-mk9zl 370 ko bhool ja
Amit Shah Ka pakad ke jhool ja 😂😂😂
@@devanshrathore9112 lol what??
@@devanshrathore9112 teko hi dalenge usko nahi
Swamy is a bully man.. he just keeps blabbering to deflect from the discussion point
This is the type of debates we need. Swami ji nailed them😂
Respected Sir/ma'am,
Where can I find the the full video. If you can provide me with the link, that would be great.
Dr. Swamy is well ahead of time. congrats
I think well behind his time is more appropriate. Helping India move back in time machine. ha ha ha
What a terrible legacy to leave for one's family Mr Subramanium Swamy? At your age you should be worried abt what you will be born as in your next life given that you have built a career on hate or do you intend to become immortal? I would have hated to have such an elder in my family,. So glad I don't.
@@smitaswarup8562 oh really .. you don't even know wht u are speaking.. whole nation know who he is....
@@user-we2pc1tc8t You are in a very small nation I think? 1 million bhakts without a brain who want to go back to ancient India? Do you think there would be 1 million rajas and ranis and rest will be dalits I guess. All of you are proud of untouchability, right?
@@smitaswarup8562 we prod all we had, there were many rajas or ranis... doesn't matter .we had the richest economy in the world till 1750 when British toom over we got in poor hands in poor managements.but in old time we were wealthy stronger kind and had a very well educated society. And you talking about the western culture and you prod of them....then tell me ..why united Kingdom started teaching sanskrit the ancient language to childers and why Russia becoming mora like ancient indian culture.. i don't know how a dick stuck in your head and your start act like you know everything.. wht the fuck you know what you studied about ancient cultures...the most old and well being civilization..... shut up ... you like the culture when gora used rape your female ancestors or mugals ....
@@user-we2pc1tc8t Yes, we did. British looted us but we are blaming Mughals? They helped right too? Do we have to thank Akbar somewhat? There were Hindu and Muslim princes both. Later Sikh princes too. Queen Elizabeth admired Akbar too. Both of them created tolerant states right? Why can't we get back to that. That is our greatness. No country like ours for diversity. We could teach the rest of the world but we compete with Iran and Pakistan. WHY Better everyone get out and work hard with scientific temper. We are moving back in the time machine to gaumutra. I don't think gobar and gaumutra made us that rich. PERIOD
Jeth Malani started by saying am I for or against!!! and then took it up accordingly.
Yes , I'm surprised. What a man
Because he is lawyer if he would have been favour he argument would have been different
A small gimmick up his sleeve
That's what lawyers do.. They don't see what is the truth.. They do what they are told to do from their client
We don’t want article 370. One love🇮🇳
Who are "We" ?
Saitama Baldy We = Indian
Really amused to listen such wonderful. Speakers....... And the level of sarcasm was even amazing.....
Hats off to स्वामी जी and जेठमलानी साब.......... When he started what he said.... That is he supporting or opposing the motion......... Shows his class...... As well
Again Ramjethmalani lost to Subramanyam Swamy as a bad looser!!
Did you watch till the end without skipping a sec. espcially the ending of the debate will tell you who won and who got humiliated. Ram Jethmalani clearly won the debate. Do you see how visibly nervous your swamy at the end after Ram Jethmalani read out the J&K Constitution, that shut Swamy's mouth. hahahahahaaa
@@myngnas007 you see whole debate what is he saying listen carefully mr swami is not a lay man he knew it what is the way to get removed out of the Constitution and the provision of j &k constitution whatever mr jethmalani said was not true in clear sense ..
@@thedynamicyouths read J&K Constitution, mr jethmalani read it out from book not from his mind, also backed by manish tewari. I hope you understand, watch the ending again
@@myngnas007 mr myn backed by manish tiwari means he is saying everything truly ...what a joke ...must read india's constitution art 370(3) and the proviso of it ... Constitution of j&K is subsidiary to the india's constitution ..how you may say ..mr jethmalani whatever is saying rightly..😊😊😊
For all those who think that both the sides presented their 'personal' views, then they are completely wrong. The full video of the debate was published some 4 years ago where it was clearly shown that the speakers were divided into teams of 'for' and 'against' on the spot and the submissions made were on that basis. All that Mr. Jethmalani and Mr. Swamy did was arguing on the basis of allocation made by the organizers.
Posting this since I see everyone's calling Mr. Jethmalani a loser and that his views were incorrect. In fact, he was given a more difficult task of opposing the motion, which only people with knowledge of law would understand.
Knowledgeable and i recognize south indians as literate just when i saw swami Ji.. He's beast💪😎
Correct he is beast and not best ? Since he is layman as said by ram jethmalani. Swamy is just joking n not serious.
One day with the bill Tamil will be removed from Tamilnadu and Hindi is the main language for Tamilians, will the swamy support it
i pity on u when you talk about south Indians literacy(or knowledge). ISRO, DRDO, NAL, HAL. check where are these located. IISC scores high vs IIT's in research.
Swamy is considering this debate as a debate of Republic TV and just throwing rhetoric and his usual insults to Gandhi family.
@@supersprit5733
I believe the comment was in favour of South Indians . . U misunderstood it
maybe
Great salute to both Dr swamy sir and jethmalani sir. A very healthy debate. jethmalani sir initially asked whether he has to speak for or against. and honestly speaking he was toally factually right everything he said but i m sure if he would have spoken for it there also he would supported with relevant correct facts.
Trulely a great man he was.
I have seen this debate before the abrogation of article 370 & 35a, didn't thought it was going to happen this soon.. Literally thought it's never gonna happen and it is just a matter for debates and discussions.. Congratulations to our government..
And now we know as all the decisions taken by this govt is wrong this was too. Examples GST, Demonetisati, Privitisation etc.
Article 370 is gone.
Next, to ensure equality before law, the proviso for minority institutions should also go so RTE can benefit all.
Mr.Swamy deserves to be successor to Mr.Modi...as Indian PM
Noooooooo.... !!! I'm all for Mr Modi n Amit Shah, but Mr Swamy, a big no 😆
Mr. Swamy for President of India and NaMo for Prime Minister of India. #2024
If he becomes the PM, most of the babus and politicians will go in jail.
agree
@Adam LB : ofcourse he is old but not disqualified
The soul of Jethmalani after 5th August 2019 --------- who did know law better me or the Economist Swamy
Mr.Jethmalani, I belong to the Travancore State in Kerala which was a princely state. So if you say 370 must stay, we also want such a consideration to the erstwhile Travancore state.
WOW Dr. Swamy!! You are certainly Blessed with such intellect and foresight!! Love to see you in the central cabinet very soon ...
Bjpians will never let him in cabinet
Swamy has been proved correct.
Mr Swamy always backs up his claims with hard hitting facts, always a pleasure to listen to him. Full of guts as well.
Sir
Real gem of this country...
God bless you and your family..
We want to see as a president of this country...How Great Sheehan sir created temperature in the cut throts of this political climate...
Do some this Hindustan....thankyou
No doubt Swamy is a visionary
Rss thug
Who is watching after revoked 370 🤣🤣🤣
5:29 legend is here. He can speek either side.. jethmalani saab 🙏
Mr Swamy just nailed it.
“Nehru occasionally listen to Edwina Mountbatten “ “IG was constitution and constitution was IG”😂😂
He is right,
“To hell with the law when it restricts the Integrity of the nation.👏👏
Swamy said"to hell with the laws...."this shows how democratic the extremism right wig party is...swami s views are very shallow....
Yes TO HELL with laws which threaten the unity and integrity of this nation. This nation and its civilisational heritage is before and above any law @@shalimar1792
The only video I have seen today while the Art. 370 is abrogated, which is absolutely informative.
It exposes the lies of congress. In 2015 such a beautiful and healthy took place and mr tiwari says what's the hurry even in 2019
Congress owe an apology for acting diplomatically foolish firstly during accession by stopping short of full accession like in other states and secondly by putting 35a ,thirdly by not undoing 370 after winning war in 71 and elections by thumping majority and criminally at fourth time by winning 1985 elections by winning 400+ seats in elections.Congress should thank Modi ji for doing what they were supposed to do 50 years ago.
@Anthony Gomes well said!
@Anthony Gomes short knowledge is not good for health ....
@Anthony Gomes short knowledge is not good for health ....
Jethmalini should retire...and take rest ..we r there to protect and take care of Jammu and Kashmir..
I give 1000% support to Dr. Subramaniam Swamy..Excellllllllllllllllllllllllent explanation Sir.. I am proud of you..💪💪👍👍🙏🙏
Did you watch till the end without skipping a sec. espcially the ending of the debate will tell you who won and who got humiliated. Ram Jethmalani clearly won the debate. Do you see how visibly nervous your swamy at the end after Ram Jethmalani read out the J&K Constitution, that shut Swamy's mouth. hahahahahaaa
Please listen both sides.
Swamy sir is always on fire...Rocking every debate &speech
Mr. Jethmalani actually had the better legal bid .
Swamy here is basing on a mix of legal and emotional representations.
Great video
Watching this is may. 2020... How confident and true was dr. Swamy! This only happens when you dont depent just on your degree but experience, facts, and a blend of flexibility in utility of brain. Wow! Something I have learned from here.
Degree only able to give you a good job to earn money for you & your family , what you want .
But Genius do what need for country or Society.
This conference was on 2015
But 370 abrogation was BJP 's Agenda since long including, Ram Mandir & UCC . Therefore , Political debate is a long process of a Counter Narratives !! Therefore, discussion sud be concentrated on
Are we in a concentrated & integrated Society since independence? Answer is absolutely
No , We still belongs to a Fragmented Society when This conference going on , because 370 35 A not abrogated by any govt by constitution. & This mindsets makes complicated for north east states also . But today after abrogation of 370 on 2019 , we can say only a able Cabinet may have such bold step to integrate Our Societies . Thinking process is important, Not degree, Degree needed for Average thinker .
Wisdom. Excel a visionary . Here no one is Visionary , Few one is with truth ,few one try establish their subject knowledge. For me they are all , I may consider good buddhi jibi or Bad budhhi jibi , Not Visionary .
Only One Visionary can deliver Ultimate, No degree dhari impotent cant , History told you
Swamy single handedly destroyed the opposition😂😂😂
Then: Indira was India, India was Indira..
Now.. Indira Gandhi is Constitution and Constitution is Indira Gandhi 🤣🤣🤣
Whether you support the motion or oppose it, you can't disagree that you won't find such kind of discussions on mainstream media.
Thanks Newslaundry for the civilized debate.
Don't criticised them.
Learn something from these intellectual.
One is in 80s & another is in 90s.
सब कुछ है दोनों के पास तब पर भी वो इस अवस्था मे बोल रहे है !
Both Legend Are Together🌺😊
Wtf SS is 80? I thought he's probably in early 70s or late 60s
@@deezenuts6432 he is 80🤠🤠 i also thought he must be around 60ss
Kya khuub likhe ho Sir aap ☺️
Mr. Jethmalini ji has lost the debate even before starting when he said am i for or against the motion ..................... but today 08.08.2019 it is proved that Mr. Jethmalini ji is wrong though he is a lawyer
You are right...
Also Ram jeth malani is a chutad insaan....
I don't think so idot and fools that too young are so innocent without knowing fully article 370. Swamy is a baboon and he after failed he is main bafoon for BJP expecting FM post
@@sreenivasanpn3506 you are chutad insaan too
@@sreenivasanpn3506 👏👏👏
I think amendment can be nullified by supreme court. Bring back article 370.
As much as I respect Mr. Ram Jethmalani, i disagree with him on art.370; Fantastic arguments from Swamy as well! Look at these two and the watch the local party hoodlums exchange words!
Abrogation of article 370 is beyond the power of government.......I liked this
Getting degree of lawyer and deep knowledge of laws are different things.90%lawyers only indulge in manipulation of laws.The more they do this the more they earn.
True. Most of the lawyers are the biggest liars. I have suffered from lawyers and I can give my reference here.
Yeah
I wish this man Swamy lives forever.
Excellent debate!! Bring more of such content NL!
Swammy gave Jethmalani what he deserved at the end.
Mr Swamy intelligence need to be applauded, equally respect his Nativity of Tamil. Within India people divide North & South (Madrasee) do we stand United as Indians as Mr Swamy fighting firm as J&K to be integral part of India...Respect all South Indians as Brilliant & God Gift to our Nation..Jai Hind
What is Madrasi?
Do you mean Chennaiyan?
Coz madras residency is broken....you any part of Kerala tamil Nadu Karnataka?madras not known...but u sound like an Indian!
It's always a delight to listen to Dr. Swamy's sensible arguments on any issue!
yet the audacity to take laymans arguments to be true are the signs of andhbhakts
@@user-mm9hj5hr4j yeah, they're not cretins who support the unprincipled lawyer who'll accuse a politico of being corrupt but will defend the same politico in the court for a fat fee!
Ram Jethmalani- Article 370 is irremovable portion of J&K!
Meanwhile Modi- Hold my beer 🍺 !!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It was a civilised debate. The truth is out in the open now.
Jai Hind !
Laws are made for the nation and its people. Sometimes we lose the essence of making such law. Lawyers play with language and interpretation as why it was drafted. We still don't acknowledge the fact that it was done in haste and without moving in Indian parliament.
Actually u r right... I was looking for this type of comments in this section.. . So now we get the point that jethmalani sir was opposing the motion where the law itself is in dispute.Both references exist in the Constitution but are contrasting.This means Lawyers can play law at their own will. Jethmalani sir had to do what he said coz the nature of debate. Also sometimes when we agree some facts, but have to say something else =huge task( psychology). Both are genius and Constitution should be edited at some point.
Sawm what about you are first acust Rajiv murder because still indian criminal dipartment save you why??????????????????
Pls koi batana is speech me kya bola he ., Swamy or jethmalani ne.. hindi me batana
What an influence, knowledge and foresight!
Swamy won!
Subramanyam swamy is 🙄🤙a real person he have guts and not hesitate to ❤ bringout the truth. Jai Bharat
The erstwhile Maharaja Hari Singh while signing instrument of accession did not put any condition, it was unconditional.
He said it in 2015 and government took this seriously in 2019.
Wow Swamy!!!!
This debate is like " Future from the past "
Dr. Swamy can give the biggest lawyers a run for their money🤣
Sort of debates we need. See the beauty
Great work swami ji. The Constitution of India deside how to rule and not a Political Constitution of Kashmir deside the future of Kashmir.
Long live swami...lots of love and respect for you
What a great orator, Swamy is! with incredible knowledge and facts
Degrees doesn’t really matter ! Mr Swami is one man who is so knowledgeable that he always mesmerize me. It’s a treat watching him destroying his opponents with facts and Witt 😉❤️