@@markfitzpatrick6692 Nissan sells an adapter? I am literally on the Nissan website and nothing. They literally say find a CHadeMO DC fast charger and charge
@@EpicDrew15 I know there isn’t and won’t be .my comment didn’t have anything to do with the adapter I was talking that new leafs are being sold. Even though non leaf drivers want to act like they are not. Or that chademo is on when we have 92 chademo
Were I shopping for an EV, I wouldn't even consider a Leaf without an adapter like this. I suspect just knowing this is available helps the resale value of ChaDeMo EVs.
I used to lease a 2018 Leaf... fairly good car, now I am leasing a 2022 VW ID.4, still not too bad of a car. I can't seem to be the one to lease a great vehicle. But, like you, it is a pretty nice adapter. I can't
We owned a Leaf for 8.5 years and put over 64k miles on it. We charged it on ChaDeMO only one time, which was at the dealer's DCFC when we needed a charge and they were open. Otherwise we never took it anywhere or tried to road trip it. That said, there are Leaf owners who do want to road trip their Leaf and it's important this exists for them. Nissan should make it official even if they have to charge full price for it, just so that it's supported and Leaf drivers don't have to take a huge risk to use it.
@@PurpleSideBlack I’m not. As soon as I can afford it, I’m gonna get the CCS1 to CHAdeMO, and the CHAdeMO to NACS. Then I will add on my NACS to CCS1 adapter.
Here's something I would like to see someone try. Plug this adapter into the Leaf, then plug the NACS to CCS1 adapter into the CCS1 to Chademo adapter and see if you can charge from a Tesla supercharger. Also, see if this adapter can use the Tesla magic dock as well. Ultimately I would like to see a NACS to Chademo adapter available as well.
@@Express_Cherest_EV you are talking about using the tesla chademo adapter to charge a Tesla. The question was about using this adapter to charge a Nissan leaf off a tesla supercharger.
I own a Nissan Leaf as well. When this "State of Charge" gets a Nissan Leaf to test the CCS1 to CHAdeMO I would like to see if it can be used with the NAS to CCS1 adapter to allow the Nissan Leaf to charge from a Tesla Supercharger.
Majority of Leaf owners including myself bought a Leaf only for work commute and local shopping. But good to know we have an option for an adapter. I would wait until the price about $500.
Nice to see it available now. I have a 2021 Leaf S Plus, which my wife drives. In the last 2 years we have only charged DCFC once. As we use it mainly for the city. It's been a really good car. For road trips we use our ID.4 which in 2 years has now has 78k miles driven. Looking forward to the test. Don't know if we will be getting one. It's very expensive and we are retired on a fixed income.
@@rcpmacThere are now 3 models available from 3 different manufacturers. All are charging around $1,000. So what’s the basis for your giant markup claim? Do you have any data to back it up?
@@robertrobertson5120 if you pay attention the chademo connector is big that is nothing new to me I have been using it since 2015. Tom comments on it all the time I can plug in with one hand on my leaf at ea .
Adapter used and tested in France: "We were even pleasantly surprised to see the power level rise to 75 kW on the most recent Leaf, whereas up until then, due to the limit of 50 kW terminals, it had hardly gone beyond 45 kW. We monitored the battery temperature during the tests, and didn't notice any problems".
@@alanwardrop9575 Yes CCS2 to Chademo. Finnish Dala, founder of the UA-cam channel Dala's EV Repair, worked with the manufacturer (Dongguan Longood Technology) to validate the adapter. The French association "e-France Café" bought it on Alibaba to test it. (article on Automobile propre, title: "Interview - L'adaptateur CHAdeMO/CCS est une réalité en France avec l'e-France Café"). Maybe you can buy it too, HK is closer to Australia than to France. Bonne chance. Best regards :)
I would not risk your battery just to charge little faster ! at 50 KW it already warms up pretty fast I can charge my nissan only max 1 time per day with fast charger or I usually add 50% via fast charger
We’re still in the phase where Tesla has to authorize your make/model for NACS access right now. It would have to be on a Magic Dock to have a chance to work, for the time being.
That's good news for LEAF owners! Can't imagine why it has taken so long… but wowza, this adapter is expensive. BTW, ask A2Z to let you do a follow up review of its "new and improved" Tiphoon PRO adapter. Your opinion on its "two-latch" one-button release is essential at this point.
The ChaDeMo plug is the reason I didn’t buy a new Leaf when I got rid of my old one. I did feel sorry for the driver who had to take mine in on trade. He had to drive it 80 miles back to the dealership, and it only had 31 miles of range, and 45% SOH, with 5 bars. Mine was a 2011. This adapter is great, but should have been available 5 years ago. I replaced the Leaf with a PHEV.
Would be funny to see a Leaf pull up to a Supercharger with Magic Dock and actually be able to charge. Would make for a good UA-cam thumbnail if anything 😅
It's great, but if you are driving a Nisan Leaf, it's likely you aren't intrested in shelling out $1365 Canadian plus 15% tax = $1569 Canadian. That's a lot of dough. Nissan did a huge disservice to their clientbase by keeping chademo this long. The writing was on the wall a long time ago.
Correction J1772 is much older than you think. The early standard was the Avcon paddle. It fizzled out around 2003 (depicted in the film Who Killed the Electric Car) due to no cars. Tesla needed a connector so they went the way they did. It took SAE years to finally select a substitute for the Avcon and they had to hurry since the Volt would soon be on the market.
I'm not following what you're saying. The J1772 connector we use today didn't exist on any vehicle/evse before 2010 as I said. The induction Avcon units did of course, I've used them, but the SAE 5-pin J1772 first arrived in late 2009- earlly 2010. It doesn't seem like you're disagreeing with anything in the video, just adding more context.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney In the 1990's, the early version of SAE J1772 did not use today's Yazaki 5-pin connector, it used the Avcon "claw" connector. Ford used it on their Ranger EV pickup. J1772 was revised to use Yazaki's connector for the iMIEV, Leaf, and Chevy Volt. GM elected to use a magnetic induction paddle for their S-10 electric pickup and the EV-1. These "magnacharge" paddles were built to SAE J1773 specification.
@georgepelton5645 Exactly. We're in agreement. I just didn't understand the use of "correction" in your first message. Nothing was incorrect, you are adding more context, which is appreciated.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney The way I interpreted his statements is there was no standard before 2010. J1772 started in 1996. The protocol is the same. I have a wall charger the was originally made for the Mini-E. The company simply replaced the cord and sold it as used.
@randycarter2001 I was saying there was no standard connector. Tesla was using one, BMW was using the ODU connector, legacy RAV4s and Ford Rangers something different, etc. There was no standard connector before 2010 - that was my point. 🙂
Thank you so much for this video. We own a 2016 Nissan Leaf and just LOVE it! I would get this adapter, as CHADMO charging is hard to find. Nissan Should be doing more to help us early users!
Terrific! For a couple of weeks last month there was only 1 working CHAdeMO connector between work and home. The rest of the machines either were sabotaged or just plain not working. For example, I know of over 12 machines at 3 different sites that had their cables cut.
Important note: In the US you need to be careful of what you buy. When you purchase inexpensive from China you'll have no recourse if something goes wrong. That's why I spent the extra to get it from A2Z in Canada.
With all the new LEAFs Nissan is dumping onto the roads here in CO due to the substantial Federal and State point of sale rebates, you should consider coming out here to do your test video on my new SV Plus. This is great news!
This is great. I’m glad someone finally developed an adapter for chademo. I’m not looking forward to slow charging leafs clogging up more stations though!
I bought a used leaf last month, and we been on our first long trip with it. We have very few CHAdeMO chargers in Denmark, but we manage to use them twice, but there are a huge amount of slow chargers (22kw or less) that we used overnight, so it was almost always full. I would never by an adapter at that price, even if the price was half the amount. Reason is that the car isn't used for long transportations, but more of a local car, and we can charge at home.
Tom, you asked for problems for an upcoming series: EV chargers are still pretty dumb, even the "smart" ones. Homeowners with solar panels will struggle to find an EV charger on the market that can charge using excess solar energy or compete intelligently with their home's energy loads at a given time. It's even more difficult if you want a unit that both can charge using excess solar energy AND load-share on the same circuit with another charger. These problems might be unique today but are right around the corner for many. It would be good to see more content about manufacturers who are working to tie into solar and make charging an EV the most efficient (and economical) it can be. I'd love to see you use your platform to help advance and optimize for this next level of home EV charging. This is a problem I'm having right now and I would be happy to talk about it.
Emporia has a system that offers almost exactly what your looking for. Great product I purchased the charger my self but didn't get the add one as it was not important to me at the time.
When I owned a Leaf, I wanted an adapter but didn't think it would ever happen. Even at $1000, I think I would have purchased one, because there were so few Chademo chargers near me. Unfortunately, a large buck took out my Leaf way too early in it's life. I moved on to a Bolt EUV with CCS1.
Greg don’t be selfish. Contrary to what Tom is saying it isn’t being phased out in my state. The ChargePoint chargers stilll come with both . We have more ChargePoint than anything else . Nevi units are all ccs but chademo is going to be around. Kyle Connor said it was gone 3 years ago and he was wrong. My one ea location has it still and we got new EVgo units from delta that have 2 chademo connectors at 100 kw along with 3 ccs. People need to do better research before saying that chademo is gone . He was correct about the aryia having ccs and ccs over taking chademo in numbers but was absolutely wrong about there not being many chademo stations. Maybe in little New Jersey that’s the case . But not In Ohio
@@markfitzpatrick6692 I'm seeing them being left off of new charging installations and sometimes removed when upgrades are performed. Ideally these adapters would be provided, but realistically the value is not there for the charging providers. Most leaf drivers stay local.
Even though it won't work, you need to try a Leaf on a Supercharger -- the NACS to CCS adapter to CCS to CHAdeMO adapter. Heck, throw an EVJect in there.
For $1000 or even $900 I think I'll have to give this a lot of thought. My Leaf only has a 24kwh battery pack anyway, so it doesn't need to be fast chargers very often. During testing of a different adapter by @nomadichippie has noticed that his adapter doesn't fully communicate with his local Electrify America stations. They aren't able to get true estimates of charging times. I'd be interested to see if A2Z can overcome this shortfall. EA recently put five 350kw stations two blocks from my home, but they left out the CHAdeMO connections. Probably just means I won't buy another Leaf when I get ready for a new EV. Thanks for the good news!
Man I just went on a road trip in our leaf this would've came in handy. We were so nervous because all the stations only had one chademo charger and if it was not working we'd be stuck. Luckily they all worked though. I've been seeing this adapter for a few months now but it's $1k 😬 where other ones are $41-$215 so I haven't bought it.
Future Video suggestion: Firstly, as a Nissan Leaf owner thank you for this awesome video! I’ll be buying one of these adapters!… You’re clearly the leader in EV charger reviews, I realize that many of the chargers you’ve reviewed over the years have probably been discontinued and / or updated. But for those chargers that are still on the market it would be cool to pick a selection (maybe 5 or 10 of them) and do a single video comparing the pros and cons of them in summary. Based on that viewers could click on previous videos if they wanted to learn more specifics about any chargers they’re thinking about buying.
I just leased a 2024 Leaf. Love the car. I did not do my homework however. I might have passed on the Leaf. I am not a long distance driver but cannot charge at my townhome. No warning from my dealership of course. This is about ethics to me. Love the car though! I will figure out a plan. I am in Houston.
This is great and huge news! We had a Kia Soul EV and sold it because of the ChaDeMo public charging options were drying up. We now have an EV6 and we love it. Although it's a little bitter sweet to see this adapter come out 8 months after we sold the Soul-EV because it was stuck with Chademo lol
I own both a Gen 1 and a Gen 2 Leaf. I really love the cars for their reliability and value. Oddly enough the Dayton Ohio Area has added CHAdeMO chargers to the area so I don't need this yet. I'm really hoping the price will fall by two-thirds. That adapter might make sense for a college student who is 2-3 hours from home.
I have a 2019 Leaf and this adapter, or others like it, is a potential game changer for me. But, there are questions. Does the adapter have a lock? How would you evaluate the risk of using the device? I have concerns about the charging providers’ terms of use for these adapters. Do you think there’s a realistic chance that Nissan could authorize this or sell its own adapter, now that there are two or three Chademo to CCS adapter vendors, including A2Z out there. Looking forward to your road test.
given how long nissan held out on CHAdeMO despite it being clear for years that CCS was going to win, it almost feels criminally negligent t hat they arent making or supplying one of these to leaf owners. like it was known when the 30kWh refresh of the OG leaf same out that CHAdeMO has lost, that was in 2014, when the facelifted one came out in 2016 that was prime opportunity again, but nada.
I had 2 Nissan Leaf from 2014 to march 2024. Here in Quebec, (Canada) we still have a lot of CHAdeMO charger, so that was never a real problem for me, and anyway, with a Leaf, you cannot do road trip, the car overheat after one fast charge in a day !
Thanks a lot. I own Nissan leaf gen2, Korea EV charging standard is CCS1 can not use them. No long distance trip experience with Leaf at all. Now i found the solution. subscribed. cheers!
I own a LEAF and a Lightning, and while I'm excited about the connector, my LEAF is a 2012 with almost 120k (in-town) miles, so the range is only about 40-ish miles at this point. About a decade ago, this would have been a huge help to me, but I'm definitely not going to be paying $1k for the adapter. @StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I have had some potentially dangerous charging problems that thankfully did not lead to a fire. I had multiple NEMA 14-50 receptacles installed in my new construction home for my charge stations. We moved into the home in January 2022 and in August of 2023, the main receptacle melted. My wife and I noticed the smell in the garage, and I had watched a video by Munro about bad outlets, so I immediately got my IR thermometer, and checked the outlet, and it was HOT. Unfortunately, I didn't take a picture, so I don't remember the exact temperature, but I remember it being between 150 and 200 degrees F. I have an old-school 32amp Aerovironment EVSE, and it partially melted the plug as well. After doing some research, my issue likely had to do with the receptacle (installed by licensed electrical contractors) not being suitable for EV charging-- not rated for the duty cycles that multiple EVs require versus a dryer or a stove. I upgraded the plug to an industrial-grade Bryant receptacle and now use the IR thermometer to measure the temperature regularly. To this point, it has done very well.
My 2011 LEAF was a great little car. The third owner tells me it still is (on its 3rd warranty replaced battery). This adapter raises the utility and value of used LEAFs on the market today. My concern is for the $1,000 part that can be removed with the push of a button. I don't see a hot market in stolen CHAdeMO adapters, but there are lots of mischief-makers out there. The adapter should have some sort of security device to prevent unauthorized removal.
Kia Soul owner here. Would love one, but zowie that price for the handful of times a year we would need it. Yesterday involved a broken and a missing chademo charger, two non-functional level 2 chargers and then 1 hour charging to get the range to get home. That is life when you have 160km range, go to a marina 120km away with no DC chargers around!
Leaf owner here (first gen Leaf) and I would love to reach out to let you use my Leaf in a video to test the adapter, as I would like to test one my self and perhaps help with making it a better product, not expecting for anyone to see this message but if you happen to do, I am close to NJ area (NY/NENJ area) and would love to see this and perhaps play with it some to help me decide if i want to pull the trigger on getting one for my self (yes I believe Nissan should have given these to there Leaf owners at a reduced rate or comped it)
I think you need to edit this video where you are talking about the different charging cables DC and ac and make it it's own videos to help all new ev owners
Do you have an issue with a Chevy Silverado sitting for a full hour to charge its massive battery? Even though it can make much better use of the 350kw charger it can take just as long to charge. Charge speed is only a part of the equation.
Q4 2023 NREL data show CHAdeMO plugs up over 3% in the US. Personally I know of maybe 30 removed on routes we travel; dozens added. We have both CCS1 and CHAdeMO cars; CHAdeMO more reliable less wonky.
Installed the Ford charge station pro a few months back. Everything was good no issues. The past several weeks I have a couple issues, one is an issue is with Ford the other might be heat related or it might be the charger itself but it has tripped my breaker twice. I’m still trying to troubleshoot what the issue is.
Seems like a great product. I hope it gets cheaper over time. I just bought a 2015 Leaf and I only plan to use it for local driving. When I first bought it I had to drive it about 250 miles home and it was a real hassle. If this product ever got down to $500 or so I'd definitely consider buying it. Thanks for the great video!
As someone that has a 2011 leaf i got used in 2019, and drives 25k miles a year, I've used DC fast charging 7500 times as reported by leafspy. The dwindling charging network for these cars is making an already difficult situation with the small air cooled battery worse. I really really want an adapter, but until it's certified for thousands upon thousands of uses, i can't justify that kind of cost.
It is a fix for a small audience for a problem that is going away. It has to be that much to pay for the R&D. They get nothing for you using it, they have to make their money up front.
As a Leaf owner, I’m excited. However, in my area (Queens and Long Island) it’s still hard to find a vacant fast (CCS) charger when you need one. Would it be possible to “daisy chain” a NACS to CCS adapter onto the CHADeMo adapter. Also, as exciting as it is for a Leaf owner, the price is a little stiff. If you need a Leaf in my area for testing, let me know.
The iMiEV was an historic milestone vehicle, like the Tesla Roadster and Model S. AFAIK, it was the first EV to offer both J1772 overnight charging and DC fast charging. I believe it was the inspiration for Tesla to offer DC charging in the Model S, and to build their supercharging network to support it.
Would love to know if it can charge at more than 50kW (Leaf plus models w/ 60/62 kWh batteries can charge up to 100kW). Please do a test with Leaf plus models if you can. Looking forward to seeing the test videos!
What follow up is needed? Ford and Rivian work on Tesla superchargers with adapters. Even GM seems to be close as there has been chatter about someone getting theirs to charge once.
CCS2 to CHAdeMO adapters have been available in Europe for a while, but have been notoriously unreliable. Hope you do some testing with this adapter? I'm betting it will get quite a few views. And how about if you pin its warranty? I'm sure a lot of people will be interested in that information. But it's a great first step. And hopefully the price will come down.
I charge my Bolt at home using Level 1 charging because we rent the home and it has outdated electrical. No way for my to Level 2 charge. And the house only has 50A service and some ancient panel that would have to be replaced. Way too much trouble and cost :( Anyway, on the topic of this adapter, it’s cool, and I get why it’s expensive, but I don’t think it’s going to sell well. The entire point of the Leaf is to be cheap and if you’re willing to drop $900 on an adapter you should just cough up a few grand more and swap out your Leaf for a Bolt.
$1000 really isn’t a bad price considering how much it expands your driving range. I would expect at least 50% of owners to get one when they’re certified. When I owned a soul EV I was willing to pay over $1000
A decade of know it alls in the forums and other online groups insisting that this adapter was 100% IMPOSSIBLE and would NEVER happen, I hope they’re all eating crow now.
I own a 2020 Nissan LEAF SL Plus. I would love to have one of these adapters, but not for $999. $199 seems like a more reasonable and justifiable price.
Cool. When’s the NACS one coming? We don’t need a double dongle situation coming. Though I will say I would be freaking out if I still owned my 2015 soul ev. With my 21 MYLR I don’t even have the option to use CCS and I can’t imagine needing it.
Double Dongle is a great band name. Your 2021 isn't CCS compatible? Must be early 21 then? My mid 2021 M3 is CCS capable. I don't think the replacement charge comm module is very expensive if you do ever need it. I do have my CCS->NACS adapter with me just in case. Only used it once so far in like 2 years.
@@dylanwhite6539 Interesting. Maybe due to chip shortage? Well, Tesla does offer a retrofit + adapter for 350. If you go to their shop site and look for the adapter it's listed there.
@@andrewt9204 actually, it does look like the retrofit is available now. I might do it one day, but currently Tesla supercharges are abundant and pretty much always cheaper than CCS stations. The ccs station local to me charges 48c/kW for 62.5kW. Superchargers are 22-30c.
@@dylanwhite6539 Yeah. I replied earlier about that, but youtube deleted it. Probably for referencing websites and prices. So dumb, like can't you see my history to know I'm not a bot?
I own a '18 Leaf and it's grea. It's great around town and a little bit more. But at that price IDK that it would be worth buying now. At a good discount from Nissan would be great.
I have LEAF and in this part of Canada no issue finding CHADEMO charge stations. While I think Nissan offering a CCS solution would be good I think they would rather sell you an Ariya than sell adapters below cost.
It won't work on a Tesla Supercharger because the vehicle won't be authorized. I don't know of any DC fast charge sites with a NACS plug near me at the moment, but I can try it on a Magic Dock Supercharger, which is the next best thing.
Home installation issue: I have posted this before and the issue was resolved, but it I believe it is valuable for those who have ANY installation done by any company. I used a Qmerit installer to put in a 50 ft long run of a 60A circuit and a Tesla Universal Wall Connector based on your reviews. The installer, contrary to your recommendation that all wire connections - at the breaker and at the wall unit- be torqued to factory specifications, just tightened them by hand. I contacted the company and a supervisor came right out and torqued them correctly. Two connections were loose and two were too tight. Either of which could have led to a high resistance connection and possibly a fire. My point is that even a trained and Qmerit qualified installer can fail to do the most critical operation of the installation. The homeowner should watch the installation to be sure all connections are done correctly. If you can’t watch the installation, at least confirm with the installer that he will torque all of the wire connections.
Yes, that's probably the most frequently violated code provision. Note that if the torque is too high, you at least need to cut fresh wire--just backing it off would lead to a worse connection. And you might need fresh hardware--too much torque could have damaged it. Related tip: when you buy a charger that you are going to have hard wired, check the manual to make sure it clearly specifies the torque. If it doesn't, you know the company hasn't done their homework and you don't want a unit from them.
@@charliesullivan4304 Several days later when the city inspector showed up I asked him about what the code was regarding proper torque. The said that proper torquing was only required in higher voltage situations- above 240V. Our city is very picky about enforcement of state and national codes so I would expect he knew what he was talking about.
@@FoamCrusher Yeah, no. NEC 110.14(D) has no restrictions about what voltage range it applies in, and that wouldn't make any sense anyway. The need is related to current, not voltage.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney dammit, well when I was driving around in the US with an EV there were free CHAdeMO plugs when all others were occupied...
I have a Tesla charger that would derate when I had a Y and now we just don’t use at all. Not sure if it was a charger issue or install issue. I’d love to get it fixed.
I can't believe Nissan still sells the Leaf with CHadeMO and they don't have their own adapters
I agree
Yes they do and have. Been seeing leafs I know Tesla gets all the coverage but I talked to a new leaf owner when I was charging my old one.
@@markfitzpatrick6692 Nissan sells an adapter? I am literally on the Nissan website and nothing.
They literally say find a CHadeMO DC fast charger and charge
@@jaynope3437 The 2024 Pacifica has CCS
@@EpicDrew15 I know there isn’t and won’t be .my comment didn’t have anything to do with the adapter I was talking that new leafs are being sold. Even though non leaf drivers want to act like they are not. Or that chademo is on when we have 92 chademo
I dont even own a leaf and I am excited about this
Were I shopping for an EV, I wouldn't even consider a Leaf without an adapter like this. I suspect just knowing this is available helps the resale value of ChaDeMo EVs.
@@Mutation666 🤣🤣
I used to lease a 2018 Leaf... fairly good car, now I am leasing a 2022 VW ID.4, still not too bad of a car.
I can't seem to be the one to lease a great vehicle.
But, like you, it is a pretty nice adapter.
I can't
@@busog97641 Lease an Ioniq 5 or 6 or a Kia EV6. You’ll see what great charging and efficiency looks like.
I own one of yours, I have like 14 of them :) I'm super excited!🎉
We owned a Leaf for 8.5 years and put over 64k miles on it. We charged it on ChaDeMO only one time, which was at the dealer's DCFC when we needed a charge and they were open. Otherwise we never took it anywhere or tried to road trip it. That said, there are Leaf owners who do want to road trip their Leaf and it's important this exists for them. Nissan should make it official even if they have to charge full price for it, just so that it's supported and Leaf drivers don't have to take a huge risk to use it.
I call my 2023 LEAF an "Around-State-Car." 170 miles of range. Way more than just "around town."
Finally, a ccs1 to CHaseMO adapter. Just in time for CCS1 to be replaced by NACS.
I’ve heard companies are already working on the NACS to chademo one. The standards aren’t terribly different so it should be an easy lift.
@@miggyshiggy maybe you could stack the adapters :) CHADEMO to CCS1, then CCS1 to NACS :)
@@PurpleSideBlack I cannot endorse this idea without rigorous testing. Add to cart.
@@GodsLittleITGirl I was kidding ;).
@@PurpleSideBlack I’m not. As soon as I can afford it, I’m gonna get the CCS1 to CHAdeMO, and the CHAdeMO to NACS. Then I will add on my NACS to CCS1 adapter.
Here's something I would like to see someone try. Plug this adapter into the Leaf, then plug the NACS to CCS1 adapter into the CCS1 to Chademo adapter and see if you can charge from a Tesla supercharger. Also, see if this adapter can use the Tesla magic dock as well. Ultimately I would like to see a NACS to Chademo adapter available as well.
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I’m the one did it. 🎉
No matter CCS 150kw or 350kw, Tesla can only take 50kw max. via Tesla OEM CHAdeMO adapter nameplate rate.
@@Express_Cherest_EV you are talking about using the tesla chademo adapter to charge a Tesla. The question was about using this adapter to charge a Nissan leaf off a tesla supercharger.
I own a Nissan Leaf as well. When this "State of Charge" gets a Nissan Leaf to test the CCS1 to CHAdeMO I would like to see if it can be used with the NAS to CCS1 adapter to allow the Nissan Leaf to charge from a Tesla Supercharger.
doubt it would work
Tom is a voice of reason and is providing a public service with this video.
Majority of Leaf owners including myself bought a Leaf only for work commute and local shopping. But good to know we have an option for an adapter. I would wait until the price about $500.
Nissan sold so many leaf's it's practically a tree!
Nice to see it available now. I have a 2021 Leaf S Plus, which my wife drives. In the last 2 years we have only charged DCFC once. As we use it mainly for the city. It's been a really good car. For road trips we use our ID.4 which in 2 years has now has 78k miles driven. Looking forward to the test. Don't know if we will be getting one. It's very expensive and we are retired on a fixed income.
Hurray. Thank you Tom for the video. As a family with 2 Leaf Pluses and road trips, the adapter is a lifeline for sure.
Great! A pcmcia to parallel port adapter!
@@romanwowk4269 You’re old… 🫡
That CHAdeMO to NACS adapter is downright hilarious! The size of that thing is incredible and looks like it would break the connector on the car! 😆
Tom, you're a great resource with useful news. Keep on chargin' !
at $1000, that could be about 1/5 to 1/10 of the value of old Nissan Leafs .
Still a bargain for those who can't afford a new $50,000 EV.
@@logictheorist900% markup an you call it a bargain?
@@rcpmacThere are now 3 models available from 3 different manufacturers. All are charging around $1,000. So what’s the basis for your giant markup claim? Do you have any data to back it up?
Wow, that adapter is as big as the Leaf itself!
@@robertrobertson5120 if you pay attention the chademo connector is big that is nothing new to me I have been using it since 2015. Tom comments on it all the time I can plug in with one hand on my leaf at ea .
You are always professional and objective at these reviews. 😊
Adapter used and tested in France: "We were even pleasantly surprised to see the power level rise to 75 kW on the most recent Leaf, whereas up until then, due to the limit of 50 kW terminals, it had hardly gone beyond 45 kW. We monitored the battery temperature during the tests, and didn't notice any problems".
Was that CCS2 to Chademo in France? I'd love to see it in Australia
@@alanwardrop9575 Yes CCS2 to Chademo. Finnish Dala, founder of the UA-cam channel Dala's EV Repair, worked with the manufacturer (Dongguan Longood Technology) to validate the adapter. The French association "e-France Café" bought it on Alibaba to test it. (article on Automobile propre, title: "Interview - L'adaptateur CHAdeMO/CCS est une réalité en France avec l'e-France Café"). Maybe you can buy it too, HK is closer to Australia than to France. Bonne chance. Best regards :)
I would not risk your battery just to charge little faster ! at 50 KW it already warms up pretty fast I can charge my nissan only max 1 time per day with fast charger or I usually add 50% via fast charger
I wonder if you combine it with a ccs nacs adapter you could do a supercharger.
I think it will work. I'll try that out
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Don't forget the Magic Dock chargers too.
We’re still in the phase where Tesla has to authorize your make/model for NACS access right now. It would have to be on a Magic Dock to have a chance to work, for the time being.
@@fiehlsport That's what I plan on doing
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FYI 48kw with a 350 kw CCS ultra. @@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
That's good news for LEAF owners! Can't imagine why it has taken so long… but wowza, this adapter is expensive. BTW, ask A2Z to let you do a follow up review of its "new and improved" Tiphoon PRO adapter. Your opinion on its "two-latch" one-button release is essential at this point.
The ChaDeMo plug is the reason I didn’t buy a new Leaf when I got rid of my old one. I did feel sorry for the driver who had to take mine in on trade. He had to drive it 80 miles back to the dealership, and it only had 31 miles of range, and 45% SOH, with 5 bars. Mine was a 2011.
This adapter is great, but should have been available 5 years ago.
I replaced the Leaf with a PHEV.
Would be funny to see a Leaf pull up to a Supercharger with Magic Dock and actually be able to charge. Would make for a good UA-cam thumbnail if anything 😅
It's great, but if you are driving a Nisan Leaf, it's likely you aren't intrested in shelling out $1365 Canadian plus 15% tax = $1569 Canadian. That's a lot of dough.
Nissan did a huge disservice to their clientbase by keeping chademo this long. The writing was on the wall a long time ago.
I’m driving a leaf and I’m interested. It’s affordable to me and it allows me to use it for longer trips with much less anxiety.
We’re just going to ignore the tens upon tens of Kia Soul EV owners!
LOL. 😀 However, Tom did mention the Soul.
Correction J1772 is much older than you think. The early standard was the Avcon paddle. It fizzled out around 2003 (depicted in the film Who Killed the Electric Car) due to no cars. Tesla needed a connector so they went the way they did. It took SAE years to finally select a substitute for the Avcon and they had to hurry since the Volt would soon be on the market.
I'm not following what you're saying. The J1772 connector we use today didn't exist on any vehicle/evse before 2010 as I said.
The induction Avcon units did of course, I've used them, but the SAE 5-pin J1772 first arrived in late 2009- earlly 2010.
It doesn't seem like you're disagreeing with anything in the video, just adding more context.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney In the 1990's, the early version of SAE J1772 did not use today's Yazaki 5-pin connector, it used the Avcon "claw" connector. Ford used it on their Ranger EV pickup. J1772 was revised to use Yazaki's connector for the iMIEV, Leaf, and Chevy Volt.
GM elected to use a magnetic induction paddle for their S-10 electric pickup and the EV-1. These "magnacharge" paddles were built to SAE J1773 specification.
@georgepelton5645 Exactly. We're in agreement. I just didn't understand the use of "correction" in your first message. Nothing was incorrect, you are adding more context, which is appreciated.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney The way I interpreted his statements is there was no standard before 2010. J1772 started in 1996. The protocol is the same. I have a wall charger the was originally made for the Mini-E. The company simply replaced the cord and sold it as used.
@randycarter2001 I was saying there was no standard connector. Tesla was using one, BMW was using the ODU connector, legacy RAV4s and Ford Rangers something different, etc. There was no standard connector before 2010 - that was my point. 🙂
Currently own a Kia soul ev
Been waiting for one of these just to be “safe” but 999 is tough to justify
Thank you so much for this video. We own a 2016 Nissan Leaf and just LOVE it! I would get this adapter, as CHADMO charging is hard to find. Nissan Should be doing more to help us early users!
Terrific! For a couple of weeks last month there was only 1 working CHAdeMO connector between work and home. The rest of the machines either were sabotaged or just plain not working. For example, I know of over 12 machines at 3 different sites that had their cables cut.
Important note: In the US you need to be careful of what you buy. When you purchase inexpensive from China you'll have no recourse if something goes wrong. That's why I spent the extra to get it from A2Z in Canada.
With all the new LEAFs Nissan is dumping onto the roads here in CO due to the substantial Federal and State point of sale rebates, you should consider coming out here to do your test video on my new SV Plus. This is great news!
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This is great. I’m glad someone finally developed an adapter for chademo. I’m not looking forward to slow charging leafs clogging up more stations though!
I bought a used leaf last month, and we been on our first long trip with it. We have very few CHAdeMO chargers in Denmark, but we manage to use them twice, but there are a huge amount of slow chargers (22kw or less) that we used overnight, so it was almost always full. I would never by an adapter at that price, even if the price was half the amount. Reason is that the car isn't used for long transportations, but more of a local car, and we can charge at home.
Tom, you asked for problems for an upcoming series:
EV chargers are still pretty dumb, even the "smart" ones. Homeowners with solar panels will struggle to find an EV charger on the market that can charge using excess solar energy or compete intelligently with their home's energy loads at a given time. It's even more difficult if you want a unit that both can charge using excess solar energy AND load-share on the same circuit with another charger. These problems might be unique today but are right around the corner for many.
It would be good to see more content about manufacturers who are working to tie into solar and make charging an EV the most efficient (and economical) it can be. I'd love to see you use your platform to help advance and optimize for this next level of home EV charging. This is a problem I'm having right now and I would be happy to talk about it.
Emporia has a system that offers almost exactly what your looking for. Great product I purchased the charger my self but didn't get the add one as it was not important to me at the time.
When I owned a Leaf, I wanted an adapter but didn't think it would ever happen. Even at $1000, I think I would have purchased one, because there were so few Chademo chargers near me. Unfortunately, a large buck took out my Leaf way too early in it's life. I moved on to a Bolt EUV with CCS1.
So glad this is here so CHADEMO can continue to be phased out
Greg don’t be selfish. Contrary to what Tom is saying it isn’t being phased out in my state. The ChargePoint chargers stilll come with both . We have more ChargePoint than anything else . Nevi units are all ccs but chademo is going to be around. Kyle Connor said it was gone 3 years ago and he was wrong. My one ea location has it still and we got new EVgo units from delta that have 2 chademo connectors at 100 kw along with 3 ccs. People need to do better research before saying that chademo is gone . He was correct about the aryia having ccs and ccs over taking chademo in numbers but was absolutely wrong about there not being many chademo stations. Maybe in little New Jersey that’s the case . But not In Ohio
@@markfitzpatrick6692 I'm seeing them being left off of new charging installations and sometimes removed when upgrades are performed.
Ideally these adapters would be provided, but realistically the value is not there for the charging providers. Most leaf drivers stay local.
Even though it won't work, you need to try a Leaf on a Supercharger -- the NACS to CCS adapter to CCS to CHAdeMO adapter. Heck, throw an EVJect in there.
For $1000 or even $900 I think I'll have to give this a lot of thought. My Leaf only has a 24kwh battery pack anyway, so it doesn't need to be fast chargers very often. During testing of a different adapter by @nomadichippie has noticed that his adapter doesn't fully communicate with his local Electrify America stations. They aren't able to get true estimates of charging times. I'd be interested to see if A2Z can overcome this shortfall. EA recently put five 350kw stations two blocks from my home, but they left out the CHAdeMO connections. Probably just means I won't buy another Leaf when I get ready for a new EV. Thanks for the good news!
Man I just went on a road trip in our leaf this would've came in handy. We were so nervous because all the stations only had one chademo charger and if it was not working we'd be stuck. Luckily they all worked though.
I've been seeing this adapter for a few months now but it's $1k 😬 where other ones are $41-$215 so I haven't bought it.
OMG that thing is bigger than a vacuum cleaner.
Anyway, this puts a low cost used Leaf back on the map !!!
Future Video suggestion:
Firstly, as a Nissan Leaf owner thank you for this awesome video! I’ll be buying one of these adapters!…
You’re clearly the leader in EV charger reviews, I realize that many of the chargers you’ve reviewed over the years have probably been discontinued and / or updated. But for those chargers that are still on the market it would be cool to pick a selection (maybe 5 or 10 of them) and do a single video comparing the pros and cons of them in summary. Based on that viewers could click on previous videos if they wanted to learn more specifics about any chargers they’re thinking about buying.
Good suggestion. Thank you!
I just leased a 2024 Leaf. Love the car. I did not do my homework however. I might have passed on the Leaf. I am not a long distance driver but cannot charge at my townhome. No warning from my dealership of course. This is about ethics to me. Love the car though! I will figure out a plan. I am in Houston.
Sorry to hear. The LEAF is a good vehicle, but the charging is difficult if you cannot charge overnight at home.
This is great and huge news! We had a Kia Soul EV and sold it because of the ChaDeMo public charging options were drying up.
We now have an EV6 and we love it. Although it's a little bitter sweet to see this adapter come out 8 months after we sold the Soul-EV because it was stuck with Chademo lol
2015 24 kWh leaf, currently at 9 bars… I’ll def buy one once I need to do a battery upgrade. This makes a 62 kWh much more appealing.
I own both a Gen 1 and a Gen 2 Leaf. I really love the cars for their reliability and value. Oddly enough the Dayton Ohio Area has added CHAdeMO chargers to the area so I don't need this yet. I'm really hoping the price will fall by two-thirds. That adapter might make sense for a college student who is 2-3 hours from home.
2/3rds is a pipe dream. 30% is more realistic once they scale up.
I have a 2019 Leaf and this adapter, or others like it, is a potential game changer for me. But, there are questions. Does the adapter have a lock? How would you evaluate the risk of using the device? I have concerns about the charging providers’ terms of use for these adapters. Do you think there’s a realistic chance that Nissan could authorize this or sell its own adapter, now that there are two or three Chademo to CCS adapter vendors, including A2Z out there. Looking forward to your road test.
$1000 (900 effectively)?! Hot dang
given how long nissan held out on CHAdeMO despite it being clear for years that CCS was going to win, it almost feels criminally negligent t hat they arent making or supplying one of these to leaf owners. like it was known when the 30kWh refresh of the OG leaf same out that CHAdeMO has lost, that was in 2014, when the facelifted one came out in 2016 that was prime opportunity again, but nada.
As an owner of a 2013 and 2019 LEAF, I can commiserate. I still enjoy both cars but having CCS on the new LEAF Plus would have made a lot of sense.
I had 2 Nissan Leaf from 2014 to march 2024. Here in Quebec, (Canada) we still have a lot of CHAdeMO charger, so that was never a real problem for me, and anyway, with a Leaf, you cannot do road trip, the car overheat after one fast charge in a day !
Thanks a lot. I own Nissan leaf gen2, Korea EV charging standard is CCS1 can not use them. No long distance trip experience with Leaf at all. Now i found the solution. subscribed. cheers!
I own a LEAF and a Lightning, and while I'm excited about the connector, my LEAF is a 2012 with almost 120k (in-town) miles, so the range is only about 40-ish miles at this point. About a decade ago, this would have been a huge help to me, but I'm definitely not going to be paying $1k for the adapter.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I have had some potentially dangerous charging problems that thankfully did not lead to a fire. I had multiple NEMA 14-50 receptacles installed in my new construction home for my charge stations. We moved into the home in January 2022 and in August of 2023, the main receptacle melted.
My wife and I noticed the smell in the garage, and I had watched a video by Munro about bad outlets, so I immediately got my IR thermometer, and checked the outlet, and it was HOT. Unfortunately, I didn't take a picture, so I don't remember the exact temperature, but I remember it being between 150 and 200 degrees F. I have an old-school 32amp Aerovironment EVSE, and it partially melted the plug as well.
After doing some research, my issue likely had to do with the receptacle (installed by licensed electrical contractors) not being suitable for EV charging-- not rated for the duty cycles that multiple EVs require versus a dryer or a stove. I upgraded the plug to an industrial-grade Bryant receptacle and now use the IR thermometer to measure the temperature regularly. To this point, it has done very well.
Need a NACS to CCS1 adapter to connect to the CCS1 to Chademo to bring Leaf to 2020. 😂
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I did what you planned.
My 2011 LEAF was a great little car. The third owner tells me it still is (on its 3rd warranty replaced battery). This adapter raises the utility and value of used LEAFs on the market today. My concern is for the $1,000 part that can be removed with the push of a button. I don't see a hot market in stolen CHAdeMO adapters, but there are lots of mischief-makers out there. The adapter should have some sort of security device to prevent unauthorized removal.
Kia Soul owner here. Would love one, but zowie that price for the handful of times a year we would need it. Yesterday involved a broken and a missing chademo charger, two non-functional level 2 chargers and then 1 hour charging to get the range to get home. That is life when you have 160km range, go to a marina 120km away with no DC chargers around!
Leaf owner here (first gen Leaf) and I would love to reach out to let you use my Leaf in a video to test the adapter, as I would like to test one my self and perhaps help with making it a better product, not expecting for anyone to see this message but if you happen to do, I am close to NJ area (NY/NENJ area) and would love to see this and perhaps play with it some to help me decide if i want to pull the trigger on getting one for my self (yes I believe Nissan should have given these to there Leaf owners at a reduced rate or comped it)
I think you need to edit this video where you are talking about the different charging cables DC and ac and make it it's own videos to help all new ev owners
I could have used this with my old 2016 Leaf! Awesome that Leaf owners will have CCS stations as an option now.
This issue I see with this is an old Leaf or other Chademo equipped vehicle sitting on a 350kw charger for an hour to full charge.
That's an issue with charger availability, not ChaDeMo.
Do you have an issue with a Chevy Silverado sitting for a full hour to charge its massive battery? Even though it can make much better use of the 350kw charger it can take just as long to charge. Charge speed is only a part of the equation.
Q4 2023 NREL data show CHAdeMO plugs up over 3% in the US. Personally I know of maybe 30 removed on routes we travel; dozens added. We have both CCS1 and CHAdeMO cars; CHAdeMO more reliable less wonky.
Installed the Ford charge station pro a few months back. Everything was good no issues. The past several weeks I have a couple issues, one is an issue is with Ford the other might be heat related or it might be the charger itself but it has tripped my breaker twice. I’m still trying to troubleshoot what the issue is.
Seems like a great product. I hope it gets cheaper over time. I just bought a 2015 Leaf and I only plan to use it for local driving. When I first bought it I had to drive it about 250 miles home and it was a real hassle. If this product ever got down to $500 or so I'd definitely consider buying it. Thanks for the great video!
Very good informative video. I drive a lightning and would miss my A-Z j3400 adapter, I love their product and highly recommend it
Nissan needs to come out with an official adapter and subsidize it somehow. Plenty of perfectly good Leafs are out there.
I live on Long Island and I have a Nissan LEAF SL Plus, I'd swing you way to test!
As someone that has a 2011 leaf i got used in 2019, and drives 25k miles a year, I've used DC fast charging 7500 times as reported by leafspy. The dwindling charging network for these cars is making an already difficult situation with the small air cooled battery worse. I really really want an adapter, but until it's certified for thousands upon thousands of uses, i can't justify that kind of cost.
$1000 for an adapter! I can lease a leaf in Colorado for $1600 for 2 years!
It is a fix for a small audience for a problem that is going away. It has to be that much to pay for the R&D. They get nothing for you using it, they have to make their money up front.
As a Leaf owner, I’m excited. However, in my area (Queens and Long Island) it’s still hard to find a vacant fast (CCS) charger when you need one. Would it be possible to “daisy chain” a NACS to CCS adapter onto the CHADeMo adapter. Also, as exciting as it is for a Leaf owner, the price is a little stiff. If you need a Leaf in my area for testing, let me know.
Wonder how well this will work on the first modern EV? Mitsubishi i-MiEV.
The iMiEV was an historic milestone vehicle, like the Tesla Roadster and Model S. AFAIK, it was the first EV to offer both J1772 overnight charging and DC fast charging. I believe it was the inspiration for Tesla to offer DC charging in the Model S, and to build their supercharging network to support it.
The problem I see is with charging provider user agreements that prohibit adapters.
A2Z stock about to go through the roof
Would love to know if it can charge at more than 50kW (Leaf plus models w/ 60/62 kWh batteries can charge up to 100kW). Please do a test with Leaf plus models if you can. Looking forward to seeing the test videos!
I'm not a Leaf owner, but I will offer a Huzzah! for them.
P.S. Whatever happened to follow up video re: E. Musk firing Supercharger staff? Ford was relying Tesla R/D for connecting to Superchargers.
What follow up is needed? Ford and Rivian work on Tesla superchargers with adapters. Even GM seems to be close as there has been chatter about someone getting theirs to charge once.
@@sparks869 Hummer EV owners report that they can charge at superchargers now. Other GM products don't work yet (AFAIK), but hopefully will soon.
but it still not a nissan approved one what if it frys ur battery
Can you test this with NACS? Maybe somewhere where there's a magic dock.
In the next, remember to test NACS-CCS1-ChaDeMo.. or you will get a loot of request for this later..
Yes please!
Well if that adapter doesn't work I have the Accraine version that's been thoroughly vetted, you'll have to travel to Michigan though.
CCS2 to CHAdeMO adapters have been available in Europe for a while, but have been notoriously unreliable. Hope you do some testing with this adapter? I'm betting it will get quite a few views.
And how about if you pin its warranty? I'm sure a lot of people will be interested in that information. But it's a great first step. And hopefully the price will come down.
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I charge my Bolt at home using Level 1 charging because we rent the home and it has outdated electrical. No way for my to Level 2 charge. And the house only has 50A service and some ancient panel that would have to be replaced. Way too much trouble and cost :(
Anyway, on the topic of this adapter, it’s cool, and I get why it’s expensive, but I don’t think it’s going to sell well. The entire point of the Leaf is to be cheap and if you’re willing to drop $900 on an adapter you should just cough up a few grand more and swap out your Leaf for a Bolt.
I sold my Leaf mostly because I didn’t want to get stuck with a car I couldn’t charge on the road.
Wonder if this would work on the Outlander PHEV? Assume so?
Yes, it should
$1000 really isn’t a bad price considering how much it expands your driving range. I would expect at least 50% of owners to get one when they’re certified. When I owned a soul EV I was willing to pay over $1000
Definitely. Leaf is so much cheaper than other cars it would still be competitive with an extra 1k on top for the adapter
A decade of know it alls in the forums and other online groups insisting that this adapter was 100% IMPOSSIBLE and would NEVER happen, I hope they’re all eating crow now.
Give us some good news about the GM charger for Tesla, DC fast charging any updates when we’re gonna be available
Hummer EV owners report they can charge at superchargers now. Not other GM EVs yet, but hopefully soon.
That great!! $999i s a very high price. I charge my Leaf at home 90%, L2, amd little DC Fast
Great content Tom , Question. Is there an adapter to charge from Chademo DC fast to Ccs1 ? If so, can u share a link? Thanks in advance
Are there many DCFC’s with ChaDemo only plugs? If so and the cue is huge.😄 18:45
I own a 2020 Nissan LEAF SL Plus. I would love to have one of these adapters, but not for $999. $199 seems like a more reasonable and justifiable price.
Can I use that new DC adapter with my Nissan leaf BUT put a Tesla adapter on the end of that and use a Tesla supercharger?
Cool. When’s the NACS one coming? We don’t need a double dongle situation coming. Though I will say I would be freaking out if I still owned my 2015 soul ev. With my 21 MYLR I don’t even have the option to use CCS and I can’t imagine needing it.
Double Dongle is a great band name. Your 2021 isn't CCS compatible? Must be early 21 then? My mid 2021 M3 is CCS capable. I don't think the replacement charge comm module is very expensive if you do ever need it. I do have my CCS->NACS adapter with me just in case. Only used it once so far in like 2 years.
@@andrewt9204 late 21, and a replacement comms module isn’t offered by Tesla
@@dylanwhite6539 Interesting. Maybe due to chip shortage? Well, Tesla does offer a retrofit + adapter for 350. If you go to their shop site and look for the adapter it's listed there.
@@andrewt9204 actually, it does look like the retrofit is available now. I might do it one day, but currently Tesla supercharges are abundant and pretty much always cheaper than CCS stations. The ccs station local to me charges 48c/kW for 62.5kW. Superchargers are 22-30c.
@@dylanwhite6539 Yeah. I replied earlier about that, but youtube deleted it. Probably for referencing websites and prices. So dumb, like can't you see my history to know I'm not a bot?
I own a '18 Leaf and it's grea. It's great around town and a little bit more. But at that price IDK that it would be worth buying now. At a good discount from Nissan would be great.
I have LEAF and in this part of Canada no issue finding CHADEMO charge stations. While I think Nissan offering a CCS solution would be good I think they would rather sell you an Ariya than sell adapters below cost.
Will it work with Mitsubishi outlander PHEV?
Please do a nacs to cc1 to chademo double adapter
It won't work on a Tesla Supercharger because the vehicle won't be authorized. I don't know of any DC fast charge sites with a NACS plug near me at the moment, but I can try it on a Magic Dock Supercharger, which is the next best thing.
What connector do Leafs use to charge at home?
J1772
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Two connectors in the car or is CHAdeMO an expanded J1772 the way CCS1 is?
The two separate ports are side-by-side in the nose of the Leaf.
@@steveallwine1443 Thanks. I always assumed CHAdeMO was a single port that magically did AC and DC.
Boggles the mind how long Nissan stayed with it.
@@steveallwine1443Same with the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV
When is the follow up coming?
If you are traveling out to Kyle's anytime soon I'd let you use my 2018 leaf. I live in Iowa close to the Iowa 80 truck stop so would be a fun video 😂
Home installation issue: I have posted this before and the issue was resolved, but it I believe it is valuable for those who have ANY installation done by any company.
I used a Qmerit installer to put in a 50 ft long run of a 60A circuit and a Tesla Universal Wall Connector based on your reviews.
The installer, contrary to your recommendation that all wire connections - at the breaker and at the wall unit- be torqued to factory specifications, just tightened them by hand. I contacted the company and a supervisor came right out and torqued them correctly. Two connections were loose and two were too tight. Either of which could have led to a high resistance connection and possibly a fire.
My point is that even a trained and Qmerit qualified installer can fail to do the most critical operation of the installation. The homeowner should watch the installation to be sure all connections are done correctly.
If you can’t watch the installation, at least confirm with the installer that he will torque all of the wire connections.
Yes, that's probably the most frequently violated code provision. Note that if the torque is too high, you at least need to cut fresh wire--just backing it off would lead to a worse connection. And you might need fresh hardware--too much torque could have damaged it.
Related tip: when you buy a charger that you are going to have hard wired, check the manual to make sure it clearly specifies the torque. If it doesn't, you know the company hasn't done their homework and you don't want a unit from them.
@@charliesullivan4304 Several days later when the city inspector showed up I asked him about what the code was regarding proper torque. The said that proper torquing was only required in higher voltage situations- above 240V.
Our city is very picky about enforcement of state and national codes so I would expect he knew what he was talking about.
@@FoamCrusher Yeah, no. NEC 110.14(D) has no restrictions about what voltage range it applies in, and that wouldn't make any sense anyway. The need is related to current, not voltage.
How about the other way around? Liike to charge a CCS1 car on a CHAdeMO Charger?
There's nothing that can do that. There's a very small use case in North America for such an adapter.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney dammit, well when I was driving around in the US with an EV there were free CHAdeMO plugs when all others were occupied...
Hey Tom the adapter is to little to late as far as iam concerned.
I've been wondering why something like this didn't come out 5-6 years ago...
Nissan could have been the #1 ev and cheapest in the market still if they had liquid cooling battery management system and ccs1 charging
yeah 1000€, Nuts !
not sure why CHAdeMO is still Standard in Japan if its limited to 50KW ! Don't the have new cars with fast charging that support 150KW or more ?
I have a Tesla charger that would derate when I had a Y and now we just don’t use at all. Not sure if it was a charger issue or install issue. I’d love to get it fixed.