The fact they put the screen into the dash flow and not a screen sticking out of the top is priceless!! I will buy for this reason alone. Plus it’s comfortable and drives really well.
There is nothing exciting about driving the suburban streets...and for many of us thats our daily life. It would be nice to have a car that has a really nice, quiet, comfortable ride. That is primarily what I'm looking for...and the Buick appeals to me for that reason and the styling.
Having been raised on General Motors almost exclusively with a very few exceptions and those exceptions were always American; it wasn't until 2006 at the age of 36 that I could bring myself to buy my first non-American car...a 2006 Mazda 5 and I've never looked back. On occasion I've driven American cars (not sports cars) since then and the words I am screaming in my brain within a country mile are, "lummox, lumbering, clumsy and wallowing" while drawing the analogy to a waterdog puppy with long ears and big feet...gangly with good intentions; tripping over itself as it runs for the food dish. For as visually appealing as the Buick is, and it is, it doesn't sound like it backs it up with performance, unless you include the zero to $41k metric. Here's why? Buick and General Motors for that matter, are happy to be alive and they've defined success accordingly. Victory for them is seeing another sunrise; not what they're are going to do with what follows; victory is not losing constantly and being in the game occasionally. Maybe for General Motors it's all about being "fine," a pulse, even a strong pulse, is enough for them.
You wouldn’t, cus you’d drive a cx5 or an Acura or any others and would realize better mpg better driving dynamics just better. Go test drive these three vehicles and report back.
@@LafemmebearMusic . An AWD Acura is 46k and the CX5 is getting old and imo overrated. I test drove all (CX5, RDX, Envision), and though I think the Mazda is the better value, the Envision was very, very nice.
The CX-5 only gets 79/100 for driving experience per CR, and based on my experience that's pretty accurate. I encourage people to test drive the car of their choice and make the best decision for themselves.
When I first saw this design, I instantly thought of the CX-5. I will agree that it is expensive. I don't think the Equinox/Terrain comparison works because it is a different platform with a different powertrain. If you could get one, I'd like to see a review of the Avenir in AWD with the continuous damping suspension, heads up display, massaging seat, etc. I do appreciate that you can get a loaded model without the sunroof.
It’s a really soft ride. I test drove one last week. It’s not fantastic in terms of road feel or whatever 16 year olds are into, but it’s really comfortable. More comfortable than my Mercedes E Class.
@Chris. I agree with you. I test drove one of these over the weekend and found it to be very comfortable. I also agree the Equinox/Terrain comparison doesn't work. I owned an Equinox for ten years, and can tell you the experience is quite different.
Let's get real most people buying these suvs don't give a damn about sporty driving it's all about the style and the tech so going on about the driving is crazy it's comfortable and quiet and looks good bam! There you have it sold
Finally a voice if reason! Lol. This is honestly at the top of my list for my next car because of the styling! Everyone wants to compare other vehicles and what people should buy "instead of this..." but they need to think of other consumers. We all prefer different styles and definitely don't think of commuters when comparing other cars because a lot of us can't get what they are comparing to because gas mileage is usually worse in those other mentioned vehicles.
@@PatrickJTezak . I agree with you. The Envision is nicer than many vehicles currently on the market. I'm a member of CR and there are more people who say they would buy the Envision again in comparison to the RDX and CX-5.
You know, the problem that you guys have with these videos is you talk about how much better some competitors are, like the CX-5 in this case, and there's no point in watching to the end. It's like giving up the plot half way through the movie.
The CX5 is the benchmark of the CUV market and Todd and Paul have consistently used the CX5 as a reference point when talking about how a competitive CUV should be. Its not that Todd and Paul hate other CUV offerings besides the CX5 by any stretch. In fact Todd and Paul have recommended other CUV offerings besides the CX5 on numerous occasions Its not just enough that all of the CUV boxes are checked, a CUV has to offer something that is compelling in order to be even remotely competitive because the CUV market is simply too competitive and saturated with just too many options to choose from. CUVs are already bland enough to begin with so manufacturers have to make their CUV compelling and worth the money The bottom line is that a CUV that is compelling and worth the money is what makes a CUV competitive
Buick has done some of my favorite concepts in recent history. When the Avista came out I went, holy hell, I want a Buick, which I never thought I'd say.
I would like to encourage you two to one day surprise us as you switch seats and quickly record yourselves doing the Kid & Play dance at the front of the vehicle. Let’s see how many are playing close attention to what you’re doing. Also, the review seemed honest but pretty tough on the new Buick made for young/old people seeking “Meh”. I do see a lot of Mazda in it. I wonder what the fully loaded model is like unless it’s truly just missing AWD? Also, what would you say if it came with Magna Ride?
Ok. This is more a rebadged Caddy xt4. NOT GMC or Chevy. It shares everything with the Caddy. That’s being said. Of course if everything is the same you would go for the styling. Nobody goes for a car without liking how it looks. Also if you actually drive every one of the comparisons, Buick makes a very smooth and quiet ride and those seats ! The Buick is like driving on a cloud. That is the niche Buick has always and still owns. The CX5 was a beautiful suv. But it is so dated at this point that you can revenge compare. It looks like a SUV from a decade ago.
Alan S from Facebook here. Paul, style wise, does this look like a 40% larger Mazda 3 to you? I’ve made the assertion that it’s exterior styling is almost exactly the same albeit on a slightly larger scale.
GM should have made Buick China only and kept Pontiac in North America. When people think of Buick in North America they think of pensions and rocking chair.
You know I am over 50 and know so many older people just are brand loyal to one company and mostly I dont understand that attitude. My father has been a full size ford sedan person for 60 years. I have pointed out how nice a lexus is, and the toyota engineering that comes with that. He has no interest. I have owned ford trucks and gm cars and nissan sports cars , audi , vw , several porsche cars and bmw. My preference is porsche / bmw and I will own more of them.. but a suv from toyota or lexus is also coming soon. I just dont quite see the loyalty to one and only one brand. At this point i would never buy another gm or audi or vw product or any fiat or jeep product based on repair costs and difficult to fix things. Odd the younger chinese people want to buy buick or see something in it that they appreciate. Just as you said its ok. There is far far better .. but its not the worst either.
Interesting side note, the sub-title "Undisturbed" is in great irony to how totally disturbed Paul and Todd become with regards to the stand out features being only a split center console and QuietTuning (which doesn't eliminate the sound of the tires).
I find a lot of older women like the buick suv's . They have a clean look and are user friendly. Not too powerful and not crazy expensive and just kind of suburban acceptable. But in my suburban neighborhood its mostly large GM and mid size toyota suv's .. and quite a few small suv and sedans from kia / hyundai. So I see women that are 50 and older picking the buicks.. but the number of traverse and envoy and tahoes and highlanders / rav 4 / are the standard. I would buy a land cruiser or sequoia or ford expedition for myself. The lx 470 is also my style. Those or full size yukons or suburbans seem more comfortable to me.
Buick should start a srt-like performance line. They kicked everyone's ass with the grand national and then just settled for rebadged chevys. If they stop overcharging they can have a car with serious performance and actual luxury and build quality, unlike mopar
How you were describing how you feel about the vehicle is kind of how I personally feel about the 2020 Chevrolet blazer RS Please review one of those and degrade everything about it I feel like it’s a modern Chevrolet Aveo with lipstick to make it look pretty
If you’re picking a Mazda over a Buick, you have to be under 25. Or you’re obsessed with Japanese imports. That’s fine, but it’s time comfortable cars came back and these mid range sporty cars made for college kids went away.
@@senseicorey9979 what about the C8? Or the upcoming CT5 and CT4 Blackwing? Or even the last gen CTS V and the SS? They are a lot of GM vehicles that I would buy
Test drove the CX-5 drove ok however biggest con is no touch screen, prefer how Buick has the touchscreen built in the dash,comes down to preference I'l take the red envision preferred ST with the sporty black wheels plus the CX-5"s are so common..
The fact they put the screen into the dash flow and not a screen sticking out of the top is priceless!! I will buy for this reason alone. Plus it’s comfortable and drives really well.
There is nothing exciting about driving the suburban streets...and for many of us thats our daily life. It would be nice to have a car that has a really nice, quiet, comfortable ride. That is primarily what I'm looking for...and the Buick appeals to me for that reason and the styling.
Having been raised on General Motors almost exclusively with a very few exceptions and those exceptions were always American; it wasn't until 2006 at the age of 36 that I could bring myself to buy my first non-American car...a 2006 Mazda 5 and I've never looked back. On occasion I've driven American cars (not sports cars) since then and the words I am screaming in my brain within a country mile are, "lummox, lumbering, clumsy and wallowing" while drawing the analogy to a waterdog puppy with long ears and big feet...gangly with good intentions; tripping over itself as it runs for the food dish. For as visually appealing as the Buick is, and it is, it doesn't sound like it backs it up with performance, unless you include the zero to $41k metric. Here's why? Buick and General Motors for that matter, are happy to be alive and they've defined success accordingly. Victory for them is seeing another sunrise; not what they're are going to do with what follows; victory is not losing constantly and being in the game occasionally. Maybe for General Motors it's all about being "fine," a pulse, even a strong pulse, is enough for them.
I would buy it for the styling. One of best looking CUVs on the market
You wouldn’t, cus you’d drive a cx5 or an Acura or any others and would realize better mpg better driving dynamics just better. Go test drive these three vehicles and report back.
@@LafemmebearMusic . An AWD Acura is 46k and the CX5 is getting old and imo overrated. I test drove all (CX5, RDX, Envision), and though I think the Mazda is the better value, the Envision was very, very nice.
Wish they would've tested the Avenir
The CX-5 only gets 79/100 for driving experience per CR, and based on my experience that's pretty accurate. I encourage people to test drive the car of their choice and make the best decision for themselves.
When I first saw this design, I instantly thought of the CX-5. I will agree that it is expensive. I don't think the Equinox/Terrain comparison works because it is a different platform with a different powertrain. If you could get one, I'd like to see a review of the Avenir in AWD with the continuous damping suspension, heads up display, massaging seat, etc. I do appreciate that you can get a loaded model without the sunroof.
It’s a really soft ride. I test drove one last week. It’s not fantastic in terms of road feel or whatever 16 year olds are into, but it’s really comfortable. More comfortable than my Mercedes E Class.
@Chris. I agree with you. I test drove one of these over the weekend and found it to be very comfortable. I also agree the Equinox/Terrain comparison doesn't work. I owned an Equinox for ten years, and can tell you the experience is quite different.
Let's get real most people buying these suvs don't give a damn about sporty driving it's all about the style and the tech so going on about the driving is crazy it's comfortable and quiet and looks good bam! There you have it sold
Finally a voice if reason! Lol. This is honestly at the top of my list for my next car because of the styling! Everyone wants to compare other vehicles and what people should buy "instead of this..." but they need to think of other consumers. We all prefer different styles and definitely don't think of commuters when comparing other cars because a lot of us can't get what they are comparing to because gas mileage is usually worse in those other mentioned vehicles.
@@PatrickJTezak . I agree with you. The Envision is nicer than many vehicles currently on the market. I'm a member of CR and there are more people who say they would buy the Envision again in comparison to the RDX and CX-5.
Dont understand the hate for this: the avenir is quite nice
You know, the problem that you guys have with these videos is you talk about how much better some competitors are, like the CX-5 in this case, and there's no point in watching to the end. It's like giving up the plot half way through the movie.
The CX5 is the benchmark of the CUV market and Todd and Paul have consistently used the CX5 as a reference point when talking about how a competitive CUV should be. Its not that Todd and Paul hate other CUV offerings besides the CX5 by any stretch. In fact Todd and Paul have recommended other CUV offerings besides the CX5 on numerous occasions
Its not just enough that all of the CUV boxes are checked, a CUV has to offer something that is compelling in order to be even remotely competitive because the CUV market is simply too competitive and saturated with just too many options to choose from. CUVs are already bland enough to begin with so manufacturers have to make their CUV compelling and worth the money
The bottom line is that a CUV that is compelling and worth the money is what makes a CUV competitive
@@anaswarjayakumar852 . The CX-5 is highly overrated imo.
Buick has done some of my favorite concepts in recent history. When the Avista came out I went, holy hell, I want a Buick, which I never thought I'd say.
Really wish they would've made the Avista. I'm pissed every time I think about it.
I love my Regal GS manual though. Really GM didn't suck at marketing
Thank you guys for comparing the Envision with others in this market.
The quiet tech probably keeps urban noise out, which is probably a big deal in Chinese metros.
I would like to encourage you two to one day surprise us as you switch seats and quickly record yourselves doing the Kid & Play dance at the front of the vehicle. Let’s see how many are playing close attention to what you’re doing. Also, the review seemed honest but pretty tough on the new Buick made for young/old people seeking “Meh”. I do see a lot of Mazda in it. I wonder what the fully loaded model is like unless it’s truly just missing AWD? Also, what would you say if it came with Magna Ride?
American cars are so popular in China that there are waiting lists for Buicks, Oldsmobile.....no seriously. Just amazing,
Ravi Peiris M.D.
Are American car companies ever going to try to compete for buyers who are willing to buy non-American brands?
Ok. This is more a rebadged Caddy xt4. NOT GMC or Chevy. It shares everything with the Caddy. That’s being said. Of course if everything is the same you would go for the styling. Nobody goes for a car without liking how it looks. Also if you actually drive every one of the comparisons, Buick makes a very smooth and quiet ride and those seats ! The Buick is like driving on a cloud. That is the niche Buick has always and still owns. The CX5 was a beautiful suv. But it is so dated at this point that you can revenge compare. It looks like a SUV from a decade ago.
Agreed. My wife and I are looking at a XT4 and Envision Avenir. Trying to support Buick by getting one because it looks great.
The CX-5 doesn't look great. Just blah
Great looking SUV, skipping the buy because overpriced by about 7-10K.
Alan S from Facebook here. Paul, style wise, does this look like a 40% larger Mazda 3 to you? I’ve made the assertion that it’s exterior styling is almost exactly the same albeit on a slightly larger scale.
First Off A Luxury Automaker Should Have A Standard Sunroof! Or At Least The Top Trim!
Keep complaining about the price but you can get these heavily discounted at about 8k off msrp at dealers. With that discount they’re worth it
GM should have made Buick China only and kept Pontiac in North America. When people think of Buick in North America they think of pensions and rocking chair.
You know I am over 50 and know so many older people just are brand loyal to one company and mostly I dont understand that attitude. My father has been a full size ford sedan person for 60 years. I have pointed out how nice a lexus is, and the toyota engineering that comes with that. He has no interest.
I have owned ford trucks and gm cars and nissan sports cars , audi , vw , several porsche cars and bmw. My preference is porsche / bmw and I will own more of them.. but a suv from toyota or lexus is also coming soon. I just dont quite see the loyalty to one and only one brand.
At this point i would never buy another gm or audi or vw product or any fiat or jeep product based on repair costs and difficult to fix things.
Odd the younger chinese people want to buy buick or see something in it that they appreciate. Just as you said its ok. There is far far better .. but its not the worst either.
I have a 1998 audi A8 that is beautiful. But we couldn't take the repair bills anymore
Interesting side note, the sub-title "Undisturbed" is in great irony to how totally disturbed Paul and Todd become with regards to the stand out features being only a split center console and QuietTuning (which doesn't eliminate the sound of the tires).
I find a lot of older women like the buick suv's . They have a clean look and are user friendly. Not too powerful and not crazy expensive and just kind of suburban acceptable. But in my suburban neighborhood its mostly large GM and mid size toyota suv's .. and quite a few small suv and sedans from kia / hyundai. So I see women that are 50 and older picking the buicks.. but the number of traverse and envoy and tahoes and highlanders / rav 4 / are the standard.
I would buy a land cruiser or sequoia or ford expedition for myself. The lx 470 is also my style. Those or full size yukons or suburbans seem more comfortable to me.
"how about a used alfa stelvio"... Famous last words
If the only thing that competed with this buick was a used alfa stelvio, 99.9% of buyers would be better off with the buick
"how about a jaguar E-pace?" ding ding ding! Paul found the only cuv even less reliable than a stelvio
They should have spiked Buick and kept Pontiac
Buick should start a srt-like performance line. They kicked everyone's ass with the grand national and then just settled for rebadged chevys. If they stop overcharging they can have a car with serious performance and actual luxury and build quality, unlike mopar
cx-5 has a nice screen but you can't touch it
Ut you get $10k off MSRP on Envision
looks great but just like the blazer its 5-6,000 too much....if it had the 3.6 v6 at this price, well, it could be worth it...
you are right, it cost too much. for what it is, it simply cost way too much.
Very fast nice car
"Almost a Porsche Macan" why not just buy the Macan? We did lol
How you were describing how you feel about the vehicle is kind of how I personally feel about the 2020 Chevrolet blazer RS
Please review one of those and degrade everything about it
I feel like it’s a modern Chevrolet Aveo
with lipstick to make it look pretty
No Ventiports, no Buick...
Sadly it's the used market where Buick shines.
If you’re picking a Mazda over a Buick, you have to be under 25. Or you’re obsessed with Japanese imports. That’s fine, but it’s time comfortable cars came back and these mid range sporty cars made for college kids went away.
The Mazda competitor here is the CX5. It’s also a 5 seat, comfortable CUV and excellent in this very full class of vehicles. Thanks for watching!
Wait Buick still exists? I thought they were nonexistent
You guys are sugary
After 2020, Forget China! No Way I'd buy one!
The only people I know who own buicks are old republicans and they would never buy a made in China buick.
Stay away from GM front wheel drive SUVs. They are reliability nightmares.
There's not a GM made today that I would buy
@@senseicorey9979 what about the C8? Or the upcoming CT5 and CT4 Blackwing? Or even the last gen CTS V and the SS? They are a lot of GM vehicles that I would buy
@@senseicorey9979there's at least 10 GM cars I would buy. Regal GS, Chevy SS, Yukon Denali, Silverado trail boss, CT6 Blackwing, ZL1 Camaro
Jd power likes this vehicle
CX-5 all day...hell, even a Subaru Outback XT would be better
Subaru powertrain sucks
Cx5 is better
The CX-5 is so overrated. I test drove one over the weekend and for me, it was a real head scratcher that people like it so much.
Test drove the CX-5 drove ok however biggest con is no touch screen, prefer how Buick has the touchscreen built in the dash,comes down to preference I'l take the red envision preferred ST with the sporty black wheels plus the CX-5"s are so common..
@@deightons5641 . I also test drove the Buick Envision and much prefer it to the CX-5. That vehicle is underrated imo.