Master: aight Alaya I saved the fucking world Alaya: but you used servants that musnt be used for human control. Prepare to be punished Master: *wait a minute, this whole operation is your idea*
So as I have understood, the issue isn't Extra Class servants existing, but a human being in charge of them. The sin lies with abusing something meant to be beyond human control. Rulers are only meant to be something summoned by the world and aren't meant to have a master. Jeanne is fine because in Apocrypha, she was summoned by the grail/world to oversee the battle, not be a servant. When a Ruler was summoned in PHH (Amakusa) by the Einzberns, they lost the war. Avengers are meant to exist as a concept but not actually appear or be used. They are natural disasters in that sense. If summoned in PHH, the Einzberns are once again forced to lose WHILE ALSO cursing/corrupting the Holy Grail as a result. Alter Egos themselves are a fundamentally impossible class that isn't part of PHH and as such shouldn't ever appear in that environment, but managed to exist via the moon cell originally in a limited and extremely conditional environment.
Theory : Every single Pseudo-Servant of OG fate charas we have seen so far originate from CHALDEAS. Are they not the definition of Alter-Ego? If Shirou, Rin and Sakura are dead in 2004 by Marisbury, where does their Summonable bodies come from? The Answer is CHALDEAS Earth, which might explain why Kotomine is still on The enemy side and The Chaldean/Romani we have seen is not Goetia.... But A Romani from CHALDEAS Earth...
@@Chrome-uc3fw I think most of Pseudo servant body pretty much created by god or just steal from other timeline to use not same rin on Fate/sn for sure. I mean time/spec almost nothing for those god at all.
in other word, Ordeal Call is Nasu way for explaining so many plot holes about Fate, especially about FGO so far. Maybe one day we will get better reason why we can even summoned Divine servant that has no pseudo-vessel. Or why LB servant can be summoned with current PHH summon system.
@@arahaitham123 that how Chaldel work, I guess? They pretty much record bond and connect we meet ever summoned servant for other systems like "Servant universe" even Daybit come all way here to shutdown Chaldel. Anyway some of divine, Foreigners actually downgrade and put themselves in servant system like Kiara.
Kadoc has evaded death so many times, I feel like killing him would be a crime. - Rasputin rescued him after his Lostbelt fell. - When Douman gutted him, he was again saved by Rasputin because of the promise Rasputin made to LB Anastasia. - In Traum, the lingering remnants of LB Anastasia in the form of Viy protected him. Every time I’m just reminded of the Sirius Light he has in his pocket, and I hope it just gets removed from him. I want Kadoc to be a permanent member of the main cast.
Basic Summary of what I can tell the ordeal Call is all about. All these Rulers, Avengers and Alter Egos we have been using are ironically acting as a barrier for us to get into the Anthartic. CHALDEAS is functioning like a normal HGW which means these classes are normally not permitted in a HGW unless deemed a necessity. If we tried to enter in now as we are, we would basically be Einzburned out of existence. They summoned avengers/Rulers in various timelines and always bad things ended up happening to them. The Barrier around CHALDEAS thankfully is just repelling us, giving us the chance to go and correct these errors from the timeline and hopefully give meaning to our existence beyond the rules established by CHALDEA's holy grail war mentaility. AKA We are getting ourselves Admin priviledges to enter with our power to control Ruler, Avenger and Alter ego
now it makes sense, when olga saw king protea she thought it was really weird how we were able to summon an alter ego since they shouldnt exist in our timeline. . Edit to complete my thought: since AE shouldnt exist in our timeline, they being able to appear sets off some alarms about the summoning system, either it has some problem with it or it was rigged to allow us to summon them, different from rulers and avengers who appear since the beginning of the game for other reasons, the alter egos were brought with SERAPH, which is a main story related event, maybe something happened behind the scenes. like introducing a bug which we abused heavily thinking it was a feature
@@brian_Austin27 the thing is, is about them existing, its about us summoning them in our timeline, we knew about them from the CCC games, but how and why the chaldea summoning system was messed with to allow us to summon them if we were going to rejected later on, we shouldnt be able to summon and control them
@@brian_Austin27 And let us remember that BB took part in 2 CANNON events for the MS, both events in which she said things about "activating hard mode if humanity would wipe its 96%", or locking us in an eternal summer because (according to her profile), seen the future and want to save us from that. BB will eventually come back to the story with a lot of answers since she's more than a filler servant and that was stated super clear now
So let me get this straight. - CHALDEAS ain't letting us pass cause we are abusing a Summoning system that calls upon 3 foreign Servant classses outside of the 7 main ones. - Romani almost said 4, which means the last one according to what the trailer showed us is the Moon Cancer class. Either that will be seen as foreign by the barrier is yet to be known. - Abusing the use of Rulers, Avengers and Alter Egos made our bodies foreign, meaning we ourselves have been influenced in a way that these Extra classes function. One that rules and oversees, one that seeks their own justice through vengeance, and one that splits one's ego into two. Moon Cancer on the other hand is something BB should explain herself.
I think its not chaldeas letting us pass... its actually PHH itself that is blocking us due to abusing the 3 specific extra class Ruler Avenger and Alter Ego.
@@ViatorFortis Nah, it's definitely CHALDEAS. Because we are using Classes that PHH normally wouldn't be able to use or summon. That barrier is from CHALDEAS itself.
"Actually that's not quite right" "You won't be able to bring them with you with your current perception." It must be justified why they must be used. There will be a huge retcon/explanation in those three places of Ordeal Call.
Moral of the story... Don't be a Magus... they are all crap from the beginning to the end (with minor exception of Brodime) Instead, embrace your inner Camazotz. Only through the path of Bat Gigachad can man find salvation.
@@mochii813 What kind of meds have you been taking? Waver is educating the next generation of mages to be open-minded and be more responsible to the surroundings. That is called brainwash? The mage society had been brainwashing their generations and the next and so on. Many are unable to adapt to the modern world and many are very cold-blooded and inhuman when it comes to their research that the ignorant mundane folks aren't spared. Kirschtaria Wodime grew up like his peers. But one incident that nearly killed him radically open his eyes to the truth. The society he lived is wrong and that he needs to be socialized to those he considered as his team and friends. Waver is doing everything to made at least some progress to his students. That the next generation won't always follow their outdated society mindset to be cold and merciless.
You know, watching this and having recently gone through Singularity F again I recall during Olga Marie's lecture that she said if CHALDEA's was bigger they could possibly have read the minds of all humans on earth, or as we now know them the Humans of CHALDEA. Which implies they have minds in the first place. I really wonder how long exactly Nasu had the plot of Grand Order written out. Anyway at least this also explains the different accounts of the Bleaching we got and we got a way to return Earth back to normal. Ironically this also makes the Bleaching of Earth not so bad from a Magi's perspective where they might even congratulate Marisbury. Still fucked up as not even counting the stuff that happened in the Lostbelts they also killed off what was effectively the clones of the entire human race.
Keep in mind Mages are wellknown dicks, when it comes to obtaing any sort of advance or breakthrough in their investigations, so morality and ethics are kind of thrown away in order to fulfill their goals.
The part about the unknown Master being able to utilize many servants in Traum, the mention of substituting/switching person A & B without the subjects themselves realizing, the timelime of Guda's arrival on Chaldea, and Guda's suspicious response at this whole thing.. is it implied that subject E is actually the other Fujimaru? Is that why there's male and female version of them?
Which is weird because I thought Olga Marie could’ve been Specimen E, right before ORT was awakened, she did say something along the lines of her being experimented on and her repressing the memories of it, due to her being forced into CHALDEAS. It caused her to eventually go onto the surface of it which then the scientists did experiment and torture her, but due to the connection she must’ve made to CHALDEAS when being forced in, her being tried to call something from CHALDEAS and Chaldea. And since she was forced into CHALDEAS, she would’ve been perceived as an alien being due to her not being from that planet…
Pretty sure Subject E is Olga Marie. U-Olga Marie says that she was tortured and experimented on after being thrown into CHALDEAS while trying to insist that she's human like them, but not being listened to.
@@eclipsewaves basically, in Kaleid, there are 2 universes, the Illya verse, and the Miyuverse. In the Miyuverse, the world is essentially fucked, since all the mana are drying up and replaced with some sort of substance that kills all life forms. And basically, the Ainsworth wanted to pull a Kiritsugu and use Miyu as a substitute holy grail in order to turn mankind into a being capable of surviving in the new world Oh yeah, and btw, they also are the ones running the holy grail war in the Miyuverse and instead of summoning servants, they make cards containing the powers of heroic spirits that can transform the user into the heroic spirit that's in the cards
@@eclipsewaves Family of magi started by Darius Ainsworth in the Miyuverse of Prisma Illya, which is basically a Lostbelt. They basically replace the Einzberns in their role of being a founding member of Holy Grail Wars. Specializes in Displacement Magecraft that is ridiculously broken and unfair to fight against.
@@mirzapramudya1580 That is the reason I like prisma Illya. It is bascially a short peak into the pre Notes era. All hidden in a magical girl show. TM trolling at its best
Probably 4 or even 5, they wouldn't say 4 if we won't go at then, and there is kirei thing, but maybe the kirei one can be done in the Alter Ego Chspter
@@HerMi.T Count's class isn't revealed yet. Remember, Apostles of the Alien God doesn't necessarily mean they are all Alter Egos. Rasputin, Muramasa and Douman are the only ones that are Alter Egos in the Apostle Roster while Sherlock and Moriarty are Rulers.
It's about time I need to say this. NOVUM CHALDEA need to be an independent organization at this point once we concluded the FINALE. We don't need any backstabbers from Clock Tower and the greediness from UN. What we need is an established post that will act independently and doesn't heed the call of egoistic outsiders. NOVUM CHALDEA is built for the security of mankind past, present and future.
Better yet, let's make a new base in *SPACE!* More specificaly in the Earth's orbit! You know, like the Justice League's Watch Tower! Except with contingencies so that it doesn't, you know... fall.
…you know, I think that’s what this might be building up to. Didn’t someone (perhaps Nasu) say that if they continue with part 3, Ritsuka might no longer be apart of Chaldea? Everyone interpreted that ‘new protag’ and such, but what if it meant they literally would not be apart of Chaldea. They are no longer apart of that organisation. I could buy it after all of this.
This prelude basically boils down to: Ahh so you've been spamming servants nonstop and abusing the system. Well, congrats! You're now banned from the server.
Theory : Every single Pseudo-Servant of OG fate charas we have seen so far originate from CHALDEAS. Are they not the definition of Alter-Ego? If Shirou, Rin and Sakura are dead in 2004 by Marisbury, where does their Summonable bodies come from? The Answer is CHALDEAS Earth, which might explain why Kotomine is still on The enemy side and The Chaldean/Romani we have seen is not Goetia.... But A Romani from CHALDEAS Earth...
@@Chrome-uc3fw I can broke your theory easily... I mean bro, in the original timeline of 2004 of the Grand order timeline Pretty sure, Shirou, Rin, Sakura, didn't become a master lmao Considering if Kiritsugu alive and well with his father Rin with his father Sakura with um... The zouken. And Shirou as always, burned to the ground lmao, and got to the church, cuz Kiritsugu lives with his father. Then Shirou 90% dead by Kotomine, for sure, the chance of living with Kotomine is high around 10%, cuz Gilgamesh didn't exist. Kotomine Kirei, use kid to feed Gilgamesh. Remember, that in Lostbelt whatever, said that Kotomine body got cremated? The question is, who cremated HIM? Caren? No, too far away. The chance of Shirou is almost high and low. And... Marisbury took the tittle of Master of Caster class, so... Where is Medea? Also one more thing about Singularity Fuyuki, it is not the same timeline as the Grand order Fuyuki timeline where Marisbury at. If so, why Medea existed lol
First, happy to see my intuitions on the Traum origin video about all of it ended up quite true ! Now... U-Olga Marie said she came because her kin was dying out, and the earth too, no ? But it's CHALDEAS who was bleached. So U-Olga Marie came for CHALDEAS, not the Earth ! She may not be the Beast VII of the Earth, but of CHALDEAS, then. When she was summoned at Olympus, it was said her Saint Graph had the reading of the Seventh Beast, but I have doubts if Novum Chaldea's technology can discriminate between a Earth's Beast and a Beast of another mankind. Will need to know how it was for Camazotz. Also Romani called himself the Chaldean. I'm pretty sure he is from CHALDEAS. My intuition this time is that Marie Olga said at the very intro of F/GO as long as the light on CHALDEAS is blue then humanity's future is secure. This Grand Order has never been about saving the Earth or pan-human history. Marisbury surely seek to save HIS future : CHALDEAS. To "swap" Pan-Human History for his future.
So, this is the prelude prologue, and the Ordeal Call chapters will be released throughout the rest of the year, right? That explains why we'll have time for Valentine's shenanigans and for the arcade master to rub his Tiamat in our faces 🤔
Heh, if we are lucky Lasagna might release all four chapter within this year. But knowing them, looks like we'll be meeting Marisbury in 2025 instead of this year
@@yukiru0566 I hate how right you are, they can totally release 2 chapters for each year, so the math checks out. I hope that they pull an epic of remmant and release all chapters throughout this year though.
@@Raiden_Solid Hard to say. Think part of the reason that DW sped through Arc 1 like they did is that they weren't sure how popular F/GO was going to become and they wanted to at least finish that arc before they "had" to shut it down due to low sales/reception. Lasagne does not technically have the problem now though they might have a new one since they need to introduce new five stars with every new chapter released. They might be trying to avoid flooding the summoning pool with too many five stars, both limited and non-limited now that they have over a hundred available. People would riot if a bunch showed up this year and Lasagne still refused to finally do something about this game's shitty drop rates. Been on NA server since it was released in NA servers and I only have 46 five stars myself. Would sure be nice if they at least gave us an alternative method to acquire Unregistered Spirit Origins - even if it was only through limited time missions - since they have clearly dropped the yearly free summon ticket for both five star and four star Servants.
Many people have been asking this now, but why those three Extra Classes? Shielder is most likely not counted, as it's more of a derivative from the other Knight classes, but what about Foreigner? Pretender? Moon Cancer?! Why just Ruler, Avenger, and Alter Ego? Plus, the Apostles were using Ruler and Alter Ego like they were going out of fashion, not us!
Pretender was actually likely in the same boat as Shielder, where the pretender is part of one of the seven classes but due to their identity being uncertain yet certain it creates a sort of contradiction that makes it so they are yet are not a type of heroic spirit. They should not be able to be summoned under any grail war. Foreigners are, of course, foreign. Beings that can never be summoned under any circumstance except the most abnormal. They are not considered to be part of the classes that should be able to be summoned. Finally, Moon cancer is literally just BB hacking into the throne to BS her way in. She's basically a psuedo foreigner. As for why Ruler, Avenger, and Alter Ego are the anomalies, those are the only three that can theoretically be summoned under normal circumstances, with rulers and avengers being summoned in the past and alter egos just being a mish mash of various servants without a clear, true identity. Thus, an alter ego.
I’m going to assume it’s because those are the canonical classes that the protagonist has summoned or “used” throughout the lostbelts. It’s possible that it’s not limited to these classes, but these are just the ones he seems to have abused (this is not including events is my point). I believe the issue would be Edmond Dante’s, Sherlock Holmes and one of the few Alter Egos he has meet. The problem with this is that the latter 2 are more than likely un-summoned already. Which could imply that un-summoning may not be the issue but how to explain the actions of collaborating so. Edit: It seems all of the events are considered canon, especially every event before part 2, so this conjecture doesn’t really mean much at this point.
Roman says: "Once four... no, three reckonings have been completed," So it should be possible to do trials for the Foreigner/Pretender/Moon Cancer, but justifying their existence/use is probably much harder and more complicated than the other three. There is a fourth sketch that briefly flickers in the trailer, so the other extra classes can be addressed in the fourth chapter.
@@totozhu4543 Okitan though is not a mixed spirit origin right? So how is she an alter ego? Even if we say it's because of the living sword Rengoku, Gray from the Case Files event with a living morphing weapon still end up as an Assassin class.
I guess it's time to prove Novum Chaldea innocence, but personally i kinda feed up that Guda, Mash and the others always are the ones to pay, after all they went though, they deserve some break and happy ending😓 Lets go first for Valentine shenanigans with the pope as disrespect
@@rogueascendant6611 maybe not for people who didn't follow these types of info. So what if it's old news? It's not new to *other people* that didn't know.
@@sutishati9503 OLD NEWS OLD NEWS OLD NEWS!!! Joking aside. Nasu always change his pre-planned ideas when you think you get the gist of the mushroom's brain working. Like the old interview of him stepping down from plot writing in FGO but managing at the back. That changes when the group moved from DW to a new brand LASENGLE. Mushroom man decided to pursue writing towards Part 3. He might change his ideas again about the 'bitter sweet ending'. So far none of the staff beside Servants like Holmes is dead. I thought LB7 would be a real kicker when Guda, Nemo Marine, Mash, Habetrot, Tepeu, U-Olga Marie and Rasputin reached the down Storm Border and discovered fallen dead bodies of Goredolf, Meuniere and the staff. But it was all a fat lie. Those bodies were magecraft-based as to fool the attackers. The real alive ones are inside the ship holding and preventing the enemies from entering. So much for some tragedy and LB7 was crazy nuts when the planet eater arise. Wonder what Nasu are gonna cooked up with this Ordeal Call and the finale of this second arc.
Just a key note it is Chaldeas that is stopping us as it has taken Alaya’s Authority as the Human Order. It’s basically saying “Hey you know all those neat new classes I let you summon so you could stop the Singualrities for me? Yeah I don’t like those guys anymore so you keep them outside with you, I’m giving you divorce papers so get out.”
So basically: CHALDEAS: Extra class Waifu's are trash! Fujimaru: "No." *Proceeds to make them acceptable to the human order* Is this what we will do? Because that is giga BASED
I hope that valentine come first, Guda must have the time of his life with his extra class waifus as a disrespect, this year valentine gonna be celebrated out of spite
@@kiana4237 hey in my defence I only started fgo last september and Jeanne was my 2nd 5* so I thought any 5 star will be of great help at that time XD….. ah gacha who knew that it would slap us in the face story wise.
He is not Subject E Ruler Moriarty made that clear and Fujimaru actually was about to bring it up in this chapter but got interrupted. For some reason Sion failed to notice the very conspicuous twig lying on the operating table in Area 51. Keep in mind David states that humanity was killed by invaders who resembled trees and then Moriarty states that Subject E was being experimented on and in its anger called its brethren to avenge it. The twig is what is left of Subject E, an Alien treelike being discovered in the future by Chaldeas mankind.
On twitter [spoilers] People were talking about fujimaru being bluebook, the last human in 2117. Which I GUESS makes sense since we have the record review option but I'm not really a fan of this idea
@@liben5052 Me neither. It's not as if the status is something only the MC can have. All you need to do to be a "Representative of the Human Order" is to be its cornerstone. Ritsuka became one. David Bluebook became one. And right now, CHALDEAS also became one.
@@travisparks9289 bro you are all level of stupid.... its literally all but stated by wodime and kadoc, the whole alien tree being is a scam thats why they arent allowed to even investigate the alien god and its breathen cause if it is really an alien being unknown to even ppl 100 yrs in the future us in 2016 investigating it wont give nothing right? also ignore that yes david bluebook literally walked into the fcking room and got shot by something and he is the human lying beside the table which is what everyone thought subject e was and ritsukas pause was cause he noticed the tree nvm that olga was thrown into chadelas at the beginnin of part 1 nah means nothing says the tourist who probably just came into fgo when oylmpus dropped and bought into the dumb lore
Okay the chance to potentially see some of the regular class characters in their potential extra class forms could be interesting (like the multiple characters that could qualify for ruler, or say avenger Boudicca)
Here me out, this might be copium, but What if this is FGO’s way to bridge the arcade version’s way of things? Considering we’re going to have to hit Fuyuki again somehow, and retread on old ground, it’s possible we’re gonna have to revisit a few areas, and, surely enough, with 3 areas being the ones that we’re stopping in, perhaps 4 if we count the final place for this arc, it’s an accurate number of places that the arcade covered, in terms of missing material that our version didn’t •Jerusalem •Babylonia - Taboo-Devouring King of Heroes •Immoral Fructus City: Lilim Harlot •the final area, be it CHALDEAS or Fuyuki
"Once four... no, three reckonings have been completed, the truth of the celestial sphere will come to light." That part drew my attention. What mystery did we solve? Did we solve said mystery or is there just no longer any reason to solve it? What part of the Extra Class system has changed recently so that we no longer need to worry about it? When I thought along those lines, a hypothesis occured; According to what Andersen found in the London Singularity, the original Servant Summoning System created by the World only had the seven Grand-Class Servants. The Extra Classes didn't come into being before mages copied the system for their own use. Therefore it stands to reason that the Extra Classes don't have Grand-class containers. However, thanks to ORT's shenanigans in the Seventh Lostbelt, that has changed; there is now a Grand Foreigner in the Throne of Heroes. It's the only change in the system I've noticed, which could mean that our next job involves crowning three more Extra Class Servants, which would include understanding the system on a deeper level (and in Nasu lore, to understand a thing means to destroy the Mystery surrounding said thing, bringing it closer to Humanity cognition and thus making it less of a threat.)
I thought that ORT only made its own summoning ritual? It can't force itself unto the throne of heroes considering the translations even said, "Misuse of PHOTOCOPIED Pan-Human History." Which means ORT copied the system, not invade and inject itself to the system.
What if he said that because he was thinking of Arc. Arc existence as grand moon cancer is something to be expected but since she is Arctype:Earth, her existence should pose no problem That or this Romani is sussy
Thanks for the fast upload Neo and team! At least I get the gist of the prologue now while waiting for you upcoming LB 7 Chp 17 translation Keep up the good work!
Here's what I predict for Ordeal Call story quests: - Main boss enemies will primarily be Rulers, Avengers, and Alter Egos - Extra Classes (including Pretender and Shielder) cannot be used for ANY story battles - No revives possible during Grand Battles
Pretty sure they won't do the latter two since people will complain about not being able to use their favorite Servants, and blocking out the ability to revive just seems like a stupid decision to me.
Imagine if by the end of our journey the final enemy that we must defeat would be non other than our genderbend self, if your using Gudao then it will display Gudako, the same in vice versa.
@@ZeroRequiemDX And to make matters more "mentally unstable", this version of us managed to save both Romani AND Olga ......Yep and now we're forced to kill them AND their version of Mash Now that I think about it, there was a comic about that, wasn't it?
@@ZeroRequiemDX You know...imagine if they're are from the arcade timeline? Since it's not even Goetia who caused the singularities in it. I don't know too much sbout the arcade story besides the fact that Babylonia is totally different, there's no solomon and it's a Nero Beast the main villain.
I find it kind of odd that it's 3 extra classes that make us 'foreign' and not all the LB Material and Servants. Also for Foreigners themselves not to be an excluding factor seems very strange indeed.
Someone theorized that because Ort hacked into the throne and created the grand foreigner Class the foreigner class is now considered a natural class, the same way the original classes were the 7 classes but were then used to create the main 7 classes
I have a theory Our Situation is similar to DeadFace Hakuno.Maybe the one who is going through the lostbelt is Fragments of the real person.That can explain the two gender and Riyo Gudako
Odd direction to take things in... So the Alien World is just the Earth from within Chaldeas? Does that mean the Alien God really is just Olga-Marie, from within Chaldeas?
That’s the mystery. There’s actually a few about her going around. Like the fact that her profile is conspicuously missing a birth date and there’s been no mention of a mother. Not to mention the complete lack of interest her father has for her. And that’s not even going into the whole U-Olga Marie thing.
@@SUPERSIDESWIPER Well... Olga Marie was sacrificed to Chaldeas by Lev Lainur... Could it be that she was an Alien god, only because she arrived at the Earth within Chaldeas as a "foreign" entity?
@@ChrisMorray she is revealed to be alien apostle like Rasputin, muramasa, douman, Holmes. My guess is the real alien god is not someone who came from outerspace but it's either marisbury, chaldeas or that alien priestess which keeps popping up time to time.
Hot take theory: Marisbury wants to take the whole world and human civilization into the root so everyone can access magic(true) whenever they want to.
@@rosesongoku6980 The catch in my opinion is that he would make humans TOO powerful, which is why Daybit wants to stop him. An example would be to give a person the ability to manipulate matter on the atomic level, that person could cure cancer if he wanted to but they could also blow up the earth in a second. If there are other lifeforms in the universe like Daybit claims, they would likely not stand a chance to these new humans, and they would likely take a tyrannical approach in their relationship with other sentient beings, hence “giving humanity a bad name”
@@0SDCM You’re probably right, he figured that it wouldn’t matter how he mistreated anyone (like his daughter) in this life as long as in the next one ALL of humanity are Gods, possibly on par with Ultimate Ones, but that would naturally lead to the whole universe seeing them as a race of evil deity-level destroyers, so I can see why Daybit just wanted to pull the plug immediately.
Okay, so I was wrong. It's *NOT* the Lostbelt resources that the Human Order is whining about, it's the "abuse" of the Extra Classes Ruler Avenger and Alter-Ego. Being upset about Alter-Ego Sevants is understandable, but the Ruler and Avenger Servants?! Not only is the Human Order ungrateful, it's also *STUPID!*
Remember that it is Chaldeas that is rejecting them since it has taken over the role of Human Order. The Alien God was using us as puppets and laid a trap at the end that prevents us from reaching him as we had to make ourselves foreign to Chaldeas’ Order to be able to stop the Lost Belts. At least that’s my interpretation.
So Sion fucked up the investigation of Subject E. They couldnt separate the entities of David and the Alien because they merge. David Bluebook probably the final human in Chaldea who got took over by the the alien.
It just occurred to me that Melty blood: backalley aliance have olga consciousness meet with Sion and in Learning with manga we saw gudako just pull Olga from a city inside Chaldeas. Are you telling me that this bleached earth might actually be melty blood world all along? Also, we have Sion, who should be human if she didn't get bitten yet she became bloodsucker in FGO. Also, come to think of it, we haven't see Arc yet. So FGO just turn into Tsukihime timeline?
So... Do you all realize that Romani basically confirmed that We (Meaning Mash and our Avatar) are Counter Guardians right? Or at least part of the Counter Force. We cannot even rule that Ritsuka isn't a foreigner class entity too, because we can use (and abuse) of servant classes that are impossible to summon for normal Humans. Even then, we cannot disregard the chance that Prometheus did affect us more that we knew in Olympus.
Alright so, 3 apostles to deal with(counting sherlock return) and 3 extra classes, ruler, avenger and alter ego, with a 4 being foreigner, that probably will be Olga
I have a theory that Fujimaru is the Master of Traum. Marisbilly sent him to PHH while erasing his memory as an anchor for the eventual swapping. So that means in order to swap back, the anchor must be removed. In this case, Fujimaru back inside CHALDEAS. That's my take on this.
That would be so fucking cool All we really need tho is the background of our MC, we can't be still at the point of "he was sleeping in some alley of Chaldea with no idea of what was happening", it can be w/e but pls something
@@ZagiNoa Mash also found Fujimaru on the ground, sleeping like it's normal :') it's so weird to me, I mean the floor is freaking cold esp they're in Antarctica as well xD
@@lotus4273 I dunno. Fujimaru is supposed to basically be the representation of everything positive about humanity. That's why they're completely average in everything except Servant Compatibility. Giving them a super special background kinda destroys that.
Só achei uma pena o mistério do "Cosmo in the Lostbelt" não ter sido revelado no seu respectivo arco, foram 5 anos o Nasu segurando a playerbase para no fim responder quase nada, agora é aguardar mais uns anos para voltar a história original.
@@thefinaldarkgod4559 vou resumir bem a partir do LB6: Neste chaldea luta contra Morgana e a Fairy Round Table a fim de impedir que ela sobrescreva o mundo das fadas sob o mundo nosso; Tunguska trata da verdadeira identidade da Koyanskaya; Traum é sobre a "morte" do Holmes e sobre a cobaia "E" na área 51; LB7 é como o Daybit tentou salvar o universo tentando destruir o mundo com o ORT, revelando que o verdadeiro inimigo é a Chaldeia (Marisbury e o Alien World). O prólogo que tem no vídeo é sobre a chaldeia ter abusado das classes extra dos servos e por isso eles não podem retornar para a base na Antártica (local onde o verdadeiro inimigo está) até vencer as 3 ou 4 singularidades que brotaram só agora.
Just the Extra Classes? What about the Lostbelt Kings and Servants who couldn’t exist in Pan-Human History? Ivan, Skadi, Barghest, Melusine, Kukulkan, etc?
The Fantasy Trees (Rhongomyniad in Lostbelt 6, and ORT after eating the tree in Lostbelt 7) were sustaining the existence of their history. Otherwise they would have been erased from history as normal.
I think it makes sense why it's just those three classes out of the Extras that count as "abnormal". I mean, if you look at the others: Shielder: Galahad is a known Shielder-class servant. I imagine that several servants actually qualify as shielder, but they default to other classes because they're the main ones. Foreigner: An intrinsic part of PHH. Not only did Foreigner ORT arrive to Earth in response to humanity's presence, Voyager is a man-made Foreigner that carries undeniable proof of the existence of PHH. And there's Velber, who marked a defining turning point in PHH. Pretender: By their nature, they can masquerade as different classes so they slip under the radar, and there are PHH Pretenders like Hephastion or the GUDA6 villain (the one impersonating its hosts - would explain Okuni's append). Moon Cancer: A bit harder to explain, but all Moon Cancers are directly connected to BB, so it can be considered a contained phenomenon. Unlike Alter Ego which looks like anyone can get in if they have a mixed up spirit origin, you more or less need explicit permission from BB to use this class (unless you're Kiara, but she's also operating within the specifications of the class).
Maybe instead of finding a way of advancement he's come to the conclusion like, Wallachia and all others who predicts and see the Future that there is no Future. Wallachia responds by becoming mad. The Dust of Osiris responds by trying to write down the entirety of humanity in a giant tablet...maybe Marisbury is in the same vein yet instead has come to the conclusion that the best possible course of action is finding a way to hide mankind from that? 🤔
Wallachia just sidn't become mad only. he actually started his search for fictitious 'sixth law' to save humanity. that's why he make deal with 'Ultimate One of Moon' to convert himself into TATARI.
Another possibility, that I read from reddit, is that Marisbury wants humanity to exist outside of earth. By making humans live in many different planets, he wanted to ensure the eternal survival of human race. Hence, having a "future".
to fight a enemy that normal rules can't handle, we have to step outside the rules ourselves. but that also make us an entity that unacceptable by normal rules. now what? next chapter, player can only use 6 standard class and all extra class become unusable?
if he only listed avenger, alter ego and ruler then we can conclude that foreigner, moon cancer and pretender are natural classes for the pan-human history. In this lostbelt we saw that clases like tlaloc as a pretender and kukulcan as a foreigner being "natural" classes, the question is: what about moon cancer? is it natural even when the main reason for their exist (A title bestowed to those who threaten the world of the Moon) is not in FGO universe? or we have any hint about the moon cell or something similar existing in the moon?
Wait Just Had the thought: what If the ainsworth had Something to do with the bleaching? They talked about an old family which does Not affiliate with the clock Tower and Specializes in Placement Magecraft. It is the Miyuverse all along.
I have not read the rest of LB7, ,so, what I am about to say might have already been answered. What about Daybit being from earth Chaldea? Even Wodime, who was Animusphere #1 student, did not knew about this. To know this much about his plan...he might be a victim of it. The first one...maybe he is the whole survivir of Chaldeas. Da vinci said that he wasn't human. Maybe he is a copy from Chaldeas.
Master: aight Alaya I saved the fucking world
Alaya: but you used servants that musnt be used for human control. Prepare to be punished
Master: *wait a minute, this whole operation is your idea*
Yeah... Emiya really have a damn good reason trying to Kill Shirou if this the kind of gig he have to deal with daily... 😑
you`re the hero, but you have to leave
it feels like Fallout 1 all over again
Spartacus, we have an Oppressor.
@@lycrowkuratoSPARTACUS SMASH !
you are so fast bruh are you marisbury
His uncle works at Lasagne
Neobenedict and Nasu both start with the letter N in roman letters. Clearly, this cannot be a coincidence.
@@Kipwich *X files theme starts playing*
"Are you Marisbury?"
"No U
...U Olga Marie."
Go Speed Ahead 🤣
So as I have understood, the issue isn't Extra Class servants existing, but a human being in charge of them. The sin lies with abusing something meant to be beyond human control.
Rulers are only meant to be something summoned by the world and aren't meant to have a master. Jeanne is fine because in Apocrypha, she was summoned by the grail/world to oversee the battle, not be a servant. When a Ruler was summoned in PHH (Amakusa) by the Einzberns, they lost the war.
Avengers are meant to exist as a concept but not actually appear or be used. They are natural disasters in that sense. If summoned in PHH, the Einzberns are once again forced to lose WHILE ALSO cursing/corrupting the Holy Grail as a result.
Alter Egos themselves are a fundamentally impossible class that isn't part of PHH and as such shouldn't ever appear in that environment, but managed to exist via the moon cell originally in a limited and extremely conditional environment.
Theory : Every single Pseudo-Servant of OG fate charas we have seen so far originate from CHALDEAS. Are they not the definition of Alter-Ego? If Shirou, Rin and Sakura are dead in 2004 by Marisbury, where does their Summonable bodies come from? The Answer is CHALDEAS Earth, which might explain why Kotomine is still on The enemy side and The Chaldean/Romani we have seen is not Goetia....
But A Romani from CHALDEAS Earth...
@@Chrome-uc3fw I think most of Pseudo servant body pretty much created by god or just steal from other timeline to use not same rin on Fate/sn for sure.
I mean time/spec almost nothing for those god at all.
Not to mention the foreigners, only one who wouldn't fit into this is Mash.
in other word, Ordeal Call is Nasu way for explaining so many plot holes about Fate, especially about FGO so far. Maybe one day we will get better reason why we can even summoned Divine servant that has no pseudo-vessel. Or why LB servant can be summoned with current PHH summon system.
@@arahaitham123 that how Chaldel work, I guess? They pretty much record bond and connect we meet ever summoned servant for other systems like "Servant universe" even Daybit come all way here to shutdown Chaldel.
Anyway some of divine, Foreigners actually downgrade and put themselves in servant system like Kiara.
He hasn't even finished lb7 yet and he's like I am speed I am lightning
The non-spoiler summary as to why this happened: Because Chaldea violated the Geneva Convention.
Death to chaldeans
Because Chaldea violated the Geneva Convention not being American*
@@red7256 Chaldeans is America 🤣
@@lordtea mf Chaleans are Brits
But nobody cares about that
The most suprising fact to me is Kadoc still lives.
of course he is
my man wants to summon his LB russian princessussy again after seeing ritsuka's own russian princessusy
@@thirdsilhouetteofaverage7373 He really want that premium russian bussy
@@thirdsilhouetteofaverage7373ritsuka summoned Anastasia? Lol
Kadoc has evaded death so many times, I feel like killing him would be a crime.
- Rasputin rescued him after his Lostbelt fell.
- When Douman gutted him, he was again saved by Rasputin because of the promise Rasputin made to LB Anastasia.
- In Traum, the lingering remnants of LB Anastasia in the form of Viy protected him.
Every time I’m just reminded of the Sirius Light he has in his pocket, and I hope it just gets removed from him. I want Kadoc to be a permanent member of the main cast.
@@Triixster Unfortunately, they all but said in LB7 part 1 that at some point, Kadoc will use the Sirius Light and commit suicide before it kills him.
19:40
-How do you feel about it, Fujimaru?
-I'm f*cking tired...
Basic Summary of what I can tell the ordeal Call is all about.
All these Rulers, Avengers and Alter Egos we have been using are ironically acting as a barrier for us to get into the Anthartic. CHALDEAS is functioning like a normal HGW which means these classes are normally not permitted in a HGW unless deemed a necessity.
If we tried to enter in now as we are, we would basically be Einzburned out of existence. They summoned avengers/Rulers in various timelines and always bad things ended up happening to them.
The Barrier around CHALDEAS thankfully is just repelling us, giving us the chance to go and correct these errors from the timeline and hopefully give meaning to our existence beyond the rules established by CHALDEA's holy grail war mentaility. AKA We are getting ourselves Admin priviledges to enter with our power to control Ruler, Avenger and Alter ego
now it makes sense, when olga saw king protea she thought it was really weird how we were able to summon an alter ego since they shouldnt exist in our timeline.
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Edit to complete my thought: since AE shouldnt exist in our timeline, they being able to appear sets off some alarms about the summoning system, either it has some problem with it or it was rigged to allow us to summon them, different from rulers and avengers who appear since the beginning of the game for other reasons, the alter egos were brought with SERAPH, which is a main story related event, maybe something happened behind the scenes. like introducing a bug which we abused heavily thinking it was a feature
BB is probably the reason why we got alter egos the 1st 2 was passionlip and Melt
@@brian_Austin27 the thing is, is about them existing, its about us summoning them in our timeline, we knew about them from the CCC games, but how and why the chaldea summoning system was messed with to allow us to summon them if we were going to rejected later on, we shouldnt be able to summon and control them
@@brian_Austin27 how tf does BB keep hacking the throne
@@marcelovinicius3386 cuz bb litterly hacked chealdas systems so she must have hacked the throne
@@brian_Austin27 And let us remember that BB took part in 2 CANNON events for the MS, both events in which she said things about "activating hard mode if humanity would wipe its 96%", or locking us in an eternal summer because (according to her profile), seen the future and want to save us from that.
BB will eventually come back to the story with a lot of answers since she's more than a filler servant and that was stated super clear now
at 19:50 where kadok frowns at MC choosing one of the dialog i can imagine a very tired mc with a genuine smile thats just my take
So let me get this straight.
- CHALDEAS ain't letting us pass cause we are abusing a Summoning system that calls upon 3 foreign Servant classses outside of the 7 main ones.
- Romani almost said 4, which means the last one according to what the trailer showed us is the Moon Cancer class. Either that will be seen as foreign by the barrier is yet to be known.
- Abusing the use of Rulers, Avengers and Alter Egos made our bodies foreign, meaning we ourselves have been influenced in a way that these Extra classes function. One that rules and oversees, one that seeks their own justice through vengeance, and one that splits one's ego into two. Moon Cancer on the other hand is something BB should explain herself.
BB just pull ORT shenanigans earlier lmao
I think its not chaldeas letting us pass... its actually PHH itself that is blocking us due to abusing the 3 specific extra class Ruler Avenger and Alter Ego.
@@ViatorFortis Nah, it's definitely CHALDEAS. Because we are using Classes that PHH normally wouldn't be able to use or summon. That barrier is from CHALDEAS itself.
The last one is Foreigner not Moon Cancer
@@luckystar788 came here to say this
"You can't bring those Classes into the future beyond 2017... You're abusing them"
Spishtar main be like: wait how are we supposed to play the game?
“How else am I supposed to three turn farming nodes?”
@@yujiandou4658 leave them to me - gong doing gong thing 😏😋
"Actually that's not quite right"
"You won't be able to bring them with you with your current perception."
It must be justified why they must be used. There will be a huge retcon/explanation in those three places of Ordeal Call.
@@lordtea "You want me to explode my servants?! How is that a strategy?!"
@@yujiandou4658 that is strategy
Gong makes all colors equal
Moral of the story...
Don't be a Magus... they are all crap from the beginning to the end (with minor exception of Brodime)
Instead, embrace your inner Camazotz. Only through the path of Bat Gigachad can man find salvation.
b-but Wave- I mean Lord El Melloi... II.. is good guy too.
@@arahaitham123 waver kinda brainwashed people I guess?? But he's in debt so maybe he's not that bad at all
@@arahaitham123 Which explain why he is a magus equivalent of 'that guy nobody like'
@@mochii813 What kind of meds have you been taking?
Waver is educating the next generation of mages to be open-minded and be more responsible to the surroundings.
That is called brainwash?
The mage society had been brainwashing their generations and the next and so on. Many are unable to adapt to the modern world and many are very cold-blooded and inhuman when it comes to their research that the ignorant mundane folks aren't spared.
Kirschtaria Wodime grew up like his peers. But one incident that nearly killed him radically open his eyes to the truth. The society he lived is wrong and that he needs to be socialized to those he considered as his team and friends.
Waver is doing everything to made at least some progress to his students. That the next generation won't always follow their outdated society mindset to be cold and merciless.
I figure the moral of “don’t be a magus” was reinforced well through
1.Kiritsugu’s entire life
2.Sakura’s entire life
You know, watching this and having recently gone through Singularity F again I recall during Olga Marie's lecture that she said if CHALDEA's was bigger they could possibly have read the minds of all humans on earth, or as we now know them the Humans of CHALDEA. Which implies they have minds in the first place. I really wonder how long exactly Nasu had the plot of Grand Order written out.
Anyway at least this also explains the different accounts of the Bleaching we got and we got a way to return Earth back to normal.
Ironically this also makes the Bleaching of Earth not so bad from a Magi's perspective where they might even congratulate Marisbury. Still fucked up as not even counting the stuff that happened in the Lostbelts they also killed off what was effectively the clones of the entire human race.
Keep in mind Mages are wellknown dicks, when it comes to obtaing any sort of advance or breakthrough in their investigations, so morality and ethics are kind of thrown away in order to fulfill their goals.
why bleaching of earth isn't bad and magus world would congratulate him?
@@arahaitham123 its not genocide if it can be Reversed thats the logic i Think
@@kevinhenrique4256 that still dont explain why it would be a good thing to do
@@ley5532 mages just think different
Neo is from the Saver class, The Savior of the EN community
The part about the unknown Master being able to utilize many servants in Traum, the mention of substituting/switching person A & B without the subjects themselves realizing, the timelime of Guda's arrival on Chaldea, and Guda's suspicious response at this whole thing.. is it implied that subject E is actually the other Fujimaru? Is that why there's male and female version of them?
Yeah thats what i noticed to and i heard that FGO Stands out for Fujimaru Ristuka? So maybe its the other version of the gender we play ass
That would make a lot of sense
Also remember summer 5 was? The day/night mechanic where master change gender. That could be a heads up for the future.
Which is weird because I thought Olga Marie could’ve been Specimen E, right before ORT was awakened, she did say something along the lines of her being experimented on and her repressing the memories of it, due to her being forced into CHALDEAS. It caused her to eventually go onto the surface of it which then the scientists did experiment and torture her, but due to the connection she must’ve made to CHALDEAS when being forced in, her being tried to call something from CHALDEAS and Chaldea. And since she was forced into CHALDEAS, she would’ve been perceived as an alien being due to her not being from that planet…
Pretty sure Subject E is Olga Marie. U-Olga Marie says that she was tortured and experimented on after being thrown into CHALDEAS while trying to insist that she's human like them, but not being listened to.
The mystery of our MC getting even darker.
Remember how Mash met Ritsuka in Chaldea
And harem becoming bigger
@@user-nd3wy5bv9e yea he passed out from the battle simulation which is normal and happened a lot according to Mash & Lev lmao
Being an extra (ordinary) master must be hard lmao. Still weird that Ritsuka is sleepwalking in Chaldea 😆
@@user-nd3wy5bv9e i think ritsuka was stated to have mana equal to waver (at first)
We're going to build a wall and lostbelt going to pay for it
-Chaldeas
"A family liniage not associated with the association was researching large scale substitution magecraft"
Well, guess the Ainsworth exist in PHH
Suddenly theres a slim chance novum chaldea might fight that thing in illya drei
I didn't watch Prisma Illya. Who is the Ainsworth?
@@eclipsewaves basically, in Kaleid, there are 2 universes, the Illya verse, and the Miyuverse. In the Miyuverse, the world is essentially fucked, since all the mana are drying up and replaced with some sort of substance that kills all life forms. And basically, the Ainsworth wanted to pull a Kiritsugu and use Miyu as a substitute holy grail in order to turn mankind into a being capable of surviving in the new world
Oh yeah, and btw, they also are the ones running the holy grail war in the Miyuverse and instead of summoning servants, they make cards containing the powers of heroic spirits that can transform the user into the heroic spirit that's in the cards
@@eclipsewaves Family of magi started by Darius Ainsworth in the Miyuverse of Prisma Illya, which is basically a Lostbelt.
They basically replace the Einzberns in their role of being a founding member of Holy Grail Wars.
Specializes in Displacement Magecraft that is ridiculously broken and unfair to fight against.
@@mirzapramudya1580 That is the reason I like prisma Illya. It is bascially a short peak into the pre Notes era. All hidden in a magical girl show. TM trolling at its best
3 more chapters! Seems like Kadoc is not dying anytime soon
Bro about pull Majin Vegeta sooner or later. 😢
Probably 4 or even 5, they wouldn't say 4 if we won't go at then, and there is kirei thing, but maybe the kirei one can be done in the Alter Ego Chspter
@@Gabriel-eq9tx yeah I agree, he might be the Alter Ego part since he is the only remaining Alter Ego servant left in the story
@@madokaP2833 huh, their is COUNT though.
@@HerMi.T Count's class isn't revealed yet. Remember, Apostles of the Alien God doesn't necessarily mean they are all Alter Egos. Rasputin, Muramasa and Douman are the only ones that are Alter Egos in the Apostle Roster while Sherlock and Moriarty are Rulers.
It's about time I need to say this.
NOVUM CHALDEA need to be an independent organization at this point once we concluded the FINALE.
We don't need any backstabbers from Clock Tower and the greediness from UN.
What we need is an established post that will act independently and doesn't heed the call of egoistic outsiders.
NOVUM CHALDEA is built for the security of mankind past, present and future.
Better yet, let's make a new base in *SPACE!*
More specificaly in the Earth's orbit! You know, like the Justice League's Watch Tower!
Except with contingencies so that it doesn't, you know... fall.
Sorciers sans frontières.
"We're not mercenaries. We're not a foreign legion. SSF's a business. A new kind of business."
@@ollin-tonatiuh6418 I am not sure how viable creating something that depend on Planet's own stuff (Magecraft) in space is a good idea.
@@TempestaDominus
Well the frozen environment of Antártica was not enough to keep enemies out.
We need to go further!
…you know, I think that’s what this might be building up to. Didn’t someone (perhaps Nasu) say that if they continue with part 3, Ritsuka might no longer be apart of Chaldea? Everyone interpreted that ‘new protag’ and such, but what if it meant they literally would not be apart of Chaldea. They are no longer apart of that organisation. I could buy it after all of this.
This prelude basically boils down to:
Ahh so you've been spamming servants nonstop and abusing the system. Well, congrats! You're now banned from the server.
Neo you didn’t need to reaffirm GOAT status like this 🙏
I believe that this should be included in the end of the LB7 playlist. It was really hard to track it down
Man imagine if the collab is actually that CHALDEAS is FGO:Arcade.
It could make sense, if holy grail war could happen in cyberspace (SERAPH) then why not CHALDEAS?
Aware
Galahad should've merked marisbury immediately after summoning
He did try
Mash why did you stop him? Homie was cooking 😭
@@liben5052yeah, but it would have weighted on our Kouhai's consciousness, and Galahad wouldn't want that either, he is a knight after all
@@angelodavidmarabolivarela9505but alas we all suffer cause he lived
@@tonyepic8 but eggplant shield kouhai didn't, so it's okay for us to suffer a bit
In the end, Goetia still did nothing wrong
Theory : Every single Pseudo-Servant of OG fate charas we have seen so far originate from CHALDEAS. Are they not the definition of Alter-Ego? If Shirou, Rin and Sakura are dead in 2004 by Marisbury, where does their Summonable bodies come from? The Answer is CHALDEAS Earth, which might explain why Kotomine is still on The enemy side and The Chaldean/Romani we have seen is not Goetia....
But A Romani from CHALDEAS Earth...
The fuck do you mean he was going to put all of mankind into a furnace to power his time machine
@@Chrome-uc3fw I can broke your theory easily... I mean bro, in the original timeline of 2004 of the Grand order timeline
Pretty sure, Shirou, Rin, Sakura, didn't become a master lmao
Considering if Kiritsugu alive and well with his father
Rin with his father
Sakura with um... The zouken.
And Shirou as always, burned to the ground lmao, and got to the church, cuz Kiritsugu lives with his father.
Then Shirou 90% dead by Kotomine, for sure, the chance of living with Kotomine is high around 10%, cuz Gilgamesh didn't exist.
Kotomine Kirei, use kid to feed Gilgamesh.
Remember, that in Lostbelt whatever, said that Kotomine body got cremated?
The question is, who cremated HIM? Caren? No, too far away.
The chance of Shirou is almost high and low.
And...
Marisbury took the tittle of Master of Caster class, so... Where is Medea?
Also one more thing about Singularity Fuyuki, it is not the same timeline as the Grand order Fuyuki timeline where Marisbury at.
If so, why Medea existed lol
@@KekauzuSolomon oneshoted everyone (I wonder in that holy grail war the servants were The ones in singularity F or the ones from Zero?)
@@Kekauzu Don't bother.
That guy is spamming like crazy around here.
Don't believed it.
First, happy to see my intuitions on the Traum origin video about all of it ended up quite true ! Now... U-Olga Marie said she came because her kin was dying out, and the earth too, no ? But it's CHALDEAS who was bleached. So U-Olga Marie came for CHALDEAS, not the Earth ! She may not be the Beast VII of the Earth, but of CHALDEAS, then. When she was summoned at Olympus, it was said her Saint Graph had the reading of the Seventh Beast, but I have doubts if Novum Chaldea's technology can discriminate between a Earth's Beast and a Beast of another mankind. Will need to know how it was for Camazotz. Also Romani called himself the Chaldean. I'm pretty sure he is from CHALDEAS. My intuition this time is that Marie Olga said at the very intro of F/GO as long as the light on CHALDEAS is blue then humanity's future is secure. This Grand Order has never been about saving the Earth or pan-human history. Marisbury surely seek to save HIS future : CHALDEAS. To "swap" Pan-Human History for his future.
Oh wtf. That's insane. F that guy Marisbury
So, this is the prelude prologue, and the Ordeal Call chapters will be released throughout the rest of the year, right?
That explains why we'll have time for Valentine's shenanigans and for the arcade master to rub his Tiamat in our faces 🤔
Heh, if we are lucky Lasagna might release all four chapter within this year. But knowing them, looks like we'll be meeting Marisbury in 2025 instead of this year
@@yukiru0566 I hate how right you are, they can totally release 2 chapters for each year, so the math checks out. I hope that they pull an epic of remmant and release all chapters throughout this year though.
@@Raiden_Solid Hard to say. Think part of the reason that DW sped through Arc 1 like they did is that they weren't sure how popular F/GO was going to become and they wanted to at least finish that arc before they "had" to shut it down due to low sales/reception. Lasagne does not technically have the problem now though they might have a new one since they need to introduce new five stars with every new chapter released.
They might be trying to avoid flooding the summoning pool with too many five stars, both limited and non-limited now that they have over a hundred available. People would riot if a bunch showed up this year and Lasagne still refused to finally do something about this game's shitty drop rates. Been on NA server since it was released in NA servers and I only have 46 five stars myself. Would sure be nice if they at least gave us an alternative method to acquire Unregistered Spirit Origins - even if it was only through limited time missions - since they have clearly dropped the yearly free summon ticket for both five star and four star Servants.
probably in march 2023
Many people have been asking this now, but why those three Extra Classes?
Shielder is most likely not counted, as it's more of a derivative from the other Knight classes, but what about Foreigner? Pretender? Moon Cancer?! Why just Ruler, Avenger, and Alter Ego?
Plus, the Apostles were using Ruler and Alter Ego like they were going out of fashion, not us!
Pretender was actually likely in the same boat as Shielder, where the pretender is part of one of the seven classes but due to their identity being uncertain yet certain it creates a sort of contradiction that makes it so they are yet are not a type of heroic spirit. They should not be able to be summoned under any grail war.
Foreigners are, of course, foreign. Beings that can never be summoned under any circumstance except the most abnormal. They are not considered to be part of the classes that should be able to be summoned.
Finally, Moon cancer is literally just BB hacking into the throne to BS her way in. She's basically a psuedo foreigner.
As for why Ruler, Avenger, and Alter Ego are the anomalies, those are the only three that can theoretically be summoned under normal circumstances, with rulers and avengers being summoned in the past and alter egos just being a mish mash of various servants without a clear, true identity. Thus, an alter ego.
I’m going to assume it’s because those are the canonical classes that the protagonist has summoned or “used” throughout the lostbelts. It’s possible that it’s not limited to these classes, but these are just the ones he seems to have abused (this is not including events is my point). I believe the issue would be Edmond Dante’s, Sherlock Holmes and one of the few Alter Egos he has meet. The problem with this is that the latter 2 are more than likely un-summoned already. Which could imply that un-summoning may not be the issue but how to explain the actions of collaborating so.
Edit: It seems all of the events are considered canon, especially every event before part 2, so this conjecture doesn’t really mean much at this point.
Roman says: "Once four... no, three reckonings have been completed,"
So it should be possible to do trials for the Foreigner/Pretender/Moon Cancer, but justifying their existence/use is probably much harder and more complicated than the other three.
There is a fourth sketch that briefly flickers in the trailer, so the other extra classes can be addressed in the fourth chapter.
@@totozhu4543 Okitan though is not a mixed spirit origin right?
So how is she an alter ego?
Even if we say it's because of the living sword Rengoku, Gray from the Case Files event with a living morphing weapon still end up as an Assassin class.
Moon cancer is a synthetic class made by BB.
Avenger and Ruler is already on FGO since the first singularity.
Jesus man that was insanely fast. Tha ks for all the great work
Huh, so now we take on the role of penetrating the wall of human order lol. That's kind of ironic, in a way since we're all about protecting it.
Ironic, indeed. All of those efforts just for Alaya denying us as a part of the Pan-Human History.
Part one: we need to save the world
Part two: we need to destroy other worlds to save ours
Part three: we need to break our world to save it?
@@Dragonsworn864 Part 2.5
@@Dragonsworn864 More like think of these Ordeals, as each "Keys" to the "Door" that is Wall of the Human Order
Welp, time for the war crimes trial, everyone look innocent.
Lev always was the hero. He's an evil Speedwagon but he's still Speedwagon at heart. I SAID IT I CALLED IT MARIESBURY IS SUS
Evil Speedwagon XD
chaotic evil speedwagon
*LIIIIIIIIIIIINER!*
@@ollin-tonatiuh6418 Tell that to the mangled bloody pulp we left behind. Nope. Never the hero:
Speedwagon Alter
This guy translates like the Flash
Neo said "Im fast af boi"
16:21 he say "once four.... No, three."
There will be definitely fourth part. Probably as event or something that turning into main interlude later.
Probably mooncancer chapter with BB. The trailer have "sakura" as one of the words popping up.
@@air1744 so i can hopium about Kazuradrop added in FGO then
I guess it's time to prove Novum Chaldea innocence, but personally i kinda feed up that Guda, Mash and the others always are the ones to pay, after all they went though, they deserve some break and happy ending😓
Lets go first for Valentine shenanigans with the pope as disrespect
I believe Nasu said that end of part 2 would be bitter sweet ending so happy end for them *might* not be one of them.
@@sutishati9503 OLD NEWS
@@rogueascendant6611 maybe not for people who didn't follow these types of info. So what if it's old news? It's not new to *other people* that didn't know.
@@sutishati9503 OLD NEWS OLD NEWS OLD NEWS!!!
Joking aside.
Nasu always change his pre-planned ideas when you think you get the gist of the mushroom's brain working. Like the old interview of him stepping down from plot writing in FGO but managing at the back. That changes when the group moved from DW to a new brand LASENGLE. Mushroom man decided to pursue writing towards Part 3.
He might change his ideas again about the 'bitter sweet ending'. So far none of the staff beside Servants like Holmes is dead. I thought LB7 would be a real kicker when Guda, Nemo Marine, Mash, Habetrot, Tepeu, U-Olga Marie and Rasputin reached the down Storm Border and discovered fallen dead bodies of Goredolf, Meuniere and the staff. But it was all a fat lie. Those bodies were magecraft-based as to fool the attackers. The real alive ones are inside the ship holding and preventing the enemies from entering. So much for some tragedy and LB7 was crazy nuts when the planet eater arise.
Wonder what Nasu are gonna cooked up with this Ordeal Call and the finale of this second arc.
For summary.Alaya just being bitch and stall NOVUM CHALDEA with sin that we didn't willing to commit. We really get betray by Alaya at this point
Just a key note it is Chaldeas that is stopping us as it has taken Alaya’s Authority as the Human Order. It’s basically saying “Hey you know all those neat new classes I let you summon so you could stop the Singualrities for me? Yeah I don’t like those guys anymore so you keep them outside with you, I’m giving you divorce papers so get out.”
So she acts like a bitch because we summoned Classes that doesn’t exist to save Humanity when she couldn’t without us?
So Chaldeas is mad at all the quick farmers using dantes?
we have too much abusing extra classes just for farming materials
@@rudychandz7113 that is why gong exist
Dante's, Spihstar and Nobu for trio farming avengers
So basically:
CHALDEAS: Extra class Waifu's are trash!
Fujimaru: "No." *Proceeds to make them acceptable to the human order*
Is this what we will do? Because that is giga BASED
no it's more like "we used to much saint quartz to summon extra class waifu's and we are now bankrupt and can't enter antarctica."
@@kiana4237 Well yes, but who doesn't love Ruler Santa and also smol da Vinci, but in summer....
@@Alavaria and that greed is the reason why we're in dept to the human order. weebs Ima rayt?
I hope that valentine come first, Guda must have the time of his life with his extra class waifus as a disrespect, this year valentine gonna be celebrated out of spite
@@kiana4237 hey in my defence I only started fgo last september and Jeanne was my 2nd 5* so I thought any 5 star will be of great help at that time XD….. ah gacha who knew that it would slap us in the face story wise.
Thank you
So david bluebook could be a citizen of CHALDEAS.
He is not Subject E Ruler Moriarty made that clear and Fujimaru actually was about to bring it up in this chapter but got interrupted. For some reason Sion failed to notice the very conspicuous twig lying on the operating table in Area 51. Keep in mind David states that humanity was killed by invaders who resembled trees and then Moriarty states that Subject E was being experimented on and in its anger called its brethren to avenge it. The twig is what is left of Subject E, an Alien treelike being discovered in the future by Chaldeas mankind.
On twitter [spoilers]
People were talking about fujimaru being bluebook, the last human in 2117. Which I GUESS makes sense since we have the record review option but I'm not really a fan of this idea
@@liben5052 Me neither. It's not as if the status is something only the MC can have. All you need to do to be a "Representative of the Human Order" is to be its cornerstone.
Ritsuka became one. David Bluebook became one. And right now, CHALDEAS also became one.
@@travisparks9289 bro you are all level of stupid....
its literally all but stated by wodime and kadoc, the whole alien tree being is a scam
thats why they arent allowed to even investigate the alien god and its breathen
cause if it is really an alien being unknown to even ppl 100 yrs in the future
us in 2016 investigating it wont give nothing right?
also ignore that yes
david bluebook literally walked into the fcking room and got shot by something and he is the human lying beside the table which is what everyone thought subject e was and ritsukas pause was cause he noticed the tree
nvm that
olga was thrown into chadelas at the beginnin of part 1
nah
means nothing
says the tourist who probably just came into fgo when oylmpus dropped and bought into the dumb lore
Okay the chance to potentially see some of the regular class characters in their potential extra class forms could be interesting (like the multiple characters that could qualify for ruler, or say avenger Boudicca)
after all has been done, i feel like they play us like a damn fiddle.
>appears on deck
>tells you your passport got rejected
>adds three more quests markers
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
based ngl
Possibility of a surprise 4th one, byw
Thanks for this 😃
Here me out, this might be copium, but
What if this is FGO’s way to bridge the arcade version’s way of things?
Considering we’re going to have to hit Fuyuki again somehow, and retread on old ground, it’s possible we’re gonna have to revisit a few areas, and, surely enough, with 3 areas being the ones that we’re stopping in, perhaps 4 if we count the final place for this arc, it’s an accurate number of places that the arcade covered, in terms of missing material that our version didn’t
•Jerusalem
•Babylonia - Taboo-Devouring King of Heroes
•Immoral Fructus City: Lilim Harlot
•the final area, be it CHALDEAS or Fuyuki
I like your funny words, magic man
EMIYA: YOU SEE THE BULLSHIT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH!
"Once four... no, three reckonings have been completed, the truth of the celestial sphere will come to light." That part drew my attention. What mystery did we solve? Did we solve said mystery or is there just no longer any reason to solve it? What part of the Extra Class system has changed recently so that we no longer need to worry about it? When I thought along those lines, a hypothesis occured; According to what Andersen found in the London Singularity, the original Servant Summoning System created by the World only had the seven Grand-Class Servants. The Extra Classes didn't come into being before mages copied the system for their own use. Therefore it stands to reason that the Extra Classes don't have Grand-class containers. However, thanks to ORT's shenanigans in the Seventh Lostbelt, that has changed; there is now a Grand Foreigner in the Throne of Heroes.
It's the only change in the system I've noticed, which could mean that our next job involves crowning three more Extra Class Servants, which would include understanding the system on a deeper level (and in Nasu lore, to understand a thing means to destroy the Mystery surrounding said thing, bringing it closer to Humanity cognition and thus making it less of a threat.)
ORT is not part of the Throne of Heroes. He used the servants he absorbed to create his own Throne of Heroes to independently summon himself
Amazing theory what would you propose for new grands?
I thought that ORT only made its own summoning ritual? It can't force itself unto the throne of heroes considering the translations even said, "Misuse of PHOTOCOPIED Pan-Human History." Which means ORT copied the system, not invade and inject itself to the system.
What if he said that because he was thinking of Arc. Arc existence as grand moon cancer is something to be expected but since she is Arctype:Earth, her existence should pose no problem
That or this Romani is sussy
So you're saying... that we are fighting against Type-Moon and Nasu?
Uolga is Archetype Chaldeas (pre bleaching), clearly.
That sword of promised victory remix though.
Neo just always on track with these uploads
19:52
Kadoc Smile LETSAFUCKINGGOOOOOO
FUJIMARU : I JUST WANT A HOT COCOA IN MY BASE IS THAT TO MUCH TO ASK
Thanks for the fast upload Neo and team! At least I get the gist of the prologue now while waiting for you upcoming LB 7 Chp 17 translation
Keep up the good work!
Prisma Illya reference with the substitution magecraft though.
not just that, they basically confirm the Ainsworths are a thing in the fgo universe
The goat
Here's what I predict for Ordeal Call story quests:
- Main boss enemies will primarily be Rulers, Avengers, and Alter Egos
- Extra Classes (including Pretender and Shielder) cannot be used for ANY story battles
- No revives possible during Grand Battles
No revive? Hell no, they my noob ass will not able to clear the game
No Jalter ? Well. Guess she'll have to fight using her swimswuit then.
@@KosheiDeathless Bruh, underrated comment
Pretty sure they won't do the latter two since people will complain about not being able to use their favorite Servants, and blocking out the ability to revive just seems like a stupid decision to me.
guda vs guda is gonna be a thing isn't it?
Imagine if by the end of our journey the final enemy that we must defeat would be non other than our genderbend self, if your using Gudao then it will display Gudako, the same in vice versa.
@@ZeroRequiemDX OH LORD NOOOO
@@ZeroRequiemDX And to make matters more "mentally unstable", this version of us managed to save both Romani AND Olga
......Yep and now we're forced to kill them AND their version of Mash
Now that I think about it, there was a comic about that, wasn't it?
Ben vs. Albedo all over again.
@@ZeroRequiemDX You know...imagine if they're are from the arcade timeline? Since it's not even Goetia who caused the singularities in it.
I don't know too much sbout the arcade story besides the fact that Babylonia is totally different, there's no solomon and it's a Nero Beast the main villain.
I find it kind of odd that it's 3 extra classes that make us 'foreign' and not all the LB Material and Servants. Also for Foreigners themselves not to be an excluding factor seems very strange indeed.
Someone theorized that because Ort hacked into the throne and created the grand foreigner Class the foreigner class is now considered a natural class, the same way the original classes were the 7 classes but were then used to create the main 7 classes
I have a theory Our Situation is similar to DeadFace Hakuno.Maybe the one who is going through the lostbelt is Fragments of the real person.That can explain the two gender and Riyo Gudako
Odd direction to take things in... So the Alien World is just the Earth from within Chaldeas? Does that mean the Alien God really is just Olga-Marie, from within Chaldeas?
That’s the mystery. There’s actually a few about her going around.
Like the fact that her profile is conspicuously missing a birth date and there’s been no mention of a mother.
Not to mention the complete lack of interest her father has for her.
And that’s not even going into the whole U-Olga Marie thing.
@@SUPERSIDESWIPER Well... Olga Marie was sacrificed to Chaldeas by Lev Lainur... Could it be that she was an Alien god, only because she arrived at the Earth within Chaldeas as a "foreign" entity?
@@ChrisMorray but wasn't it revealed in LB 7 that she was decoy and not real alien god?
@@flash_1440p Was it? I don't seem to recall that... There were some peculiarities in LB7 but I do believe she was the real deal.
@@ChrisMorray she is revealed to be alien apostle like Rasputin, muramasa, douman, Holmes.
My guess is the real alien god is not someone who came from outerspace but it's either marisbury, chaldeas or that alien priestess which keeps popping up time to time.
Hot take theory: Marisbury wants to take the whole world and human civilization into the root so everyone can access magic(true) whenever they want to.
It would certainly make him far more well-intentioned than he is right now.
@@rosesongoku6980 The catch in my opinion is that he would make humans TOO powerful, which is why Daybit wants to stop him.
An example would be to give a person the ability to manipulate matter on the atomic level, that person could cure cancer if he wanted to but they could also blow up the earth in a second.
If there are other lifeforms in the universe like Daybit claims, they would likely not stand a chance to these new humans, and they would likely take a tyrannical approach in their relationship with other sentient beings, hence “giving humanity a bad name”
@@0SDCM You’re probably right, he figured that it wouldn’t matter how he mistreated anyone (like his daughter) in this life as long as in the next one ALL of humanity are Gods, possibly on par with Ultimate Ones, but that would naturally lead to the whole universe seeing them as a race of evil deity-level destroyers, so I can see why Daybit just wanted to pull the plug immediately.
2:00 why davinci call the operating room is from PHH when they just said everything there is from CHALDEAS later on?
Looks like Beast VIII finally caught up to Chaldea, the dreaded Osha Vilolation
So using kagekiyo is a big no no. maybe the CHALDEAS are genji
All along... it was Fujimaru.
Okay, so I was wrong.
It's *NOT* the Lostbelt resources that the Human Order is whining about, it's the "abuse" of the Extra Classes Ruler Avenger and Alter-Ego.
Being upset about Alter-Ego Sevants is understandable, but the Ruler and Avenger Servants?!
Not only is the Human Order ungrateful, it's also *STUPID!*
Always has been
I mean, yeah. Hence the 'human' part.
"rules for thy, but not for me"
Remember that it is Chaldeas that is rejecting them since it has taken over the role of Human Order. The Alien God was using us as puppets and laid a trap at the end that prevents us from reaching him as we had to make ourselves foreign to Chaldeas’ Order to be able to stop the Lost Belts. At least that’s my interpretation.
@@travisparks9289
So what you're saying is that the "real" Human Order is an incompetent and weak fool just like Alaya?
Ah so there's gonna be a 2.5 before a 3.0
So Sion fucked up the investigation of Subject E.
They couldnt separate the entities of David and the Alien because they merge.
David Bluebook probably the final human in Chaldea who got took over by the the alien.
Finally a sensible comment jfc
And ofc almost no upvote
oh great 4 ordeals which means more 4 chapters so its not weird weird we will battle chaldeas at 2025
It just occurred to me that Melty blood: backalley aliance have olga consciousness meet with Sion and in Learning with manga we saw gudako just pull Olga from a city inside Chaldeas.
Are you telling me that this bleached earth might actually be melty blood world all along? Also, we have Sion, who should be human if she didn't get bitten yet she became bloodsucker in FGO. Also, come to think of it, we haven't see Arc yet.
So FGO just turn into Tsukihime timeline?
Alaya announced Ritsuka as foreign body lol as this goes he may become Beast
We abused the Gacha, and so the Gacha fought back?
The gacha abused me more
@@JohnWick-rh1zz agree
subject: E is david? and subject: E different from specimen: E?
So... Do you all realize that Romani basically confirmed that We (Meaning Mash and our Avatar) are Counter Guardians right? Or at least part of the Counter Force. We cannot even rule that Ritsuka isn't a foreigner class entity too, because we can use (and abuse) of servant classes that are impossible to summon for normal Humans. Even then, we cannot disregard the chance that Prometheus did affect us more that we knew in Olympus.
MC is a Foreigner and we, the player, is the Possessing spirit 💪
Alright so, 3 apostles to deal with(counting sherlock return) and 3 extra classes, ruler, avenger and alter ego, with a 4 being foreigner, that probably will be Olga
Alaya, you have strayed from
The path
It's the first time they referenced the Ainsworths eh, right?
Possible Magical Girl Ilya Next Collab featuring Ainsworth family???? (JULIAN + Emiya Shirou Spiritron Dress LESSGOO)
@@luthfimisbah5103 angelica lets go
Also we have the topic of Alter Ego Count in hand. Who is he or she? Is he the King of Cavern? Just like Apostle Muramasa?
Dude at this point I feel like we are just gonna be round about turning into the first iteration of the Counter Guardians due to timeline shenanigans
I see! It means that we're going Ghostbusters on these singularly again.
I have a theory that Fujimaru is the Master of Traum. Marisbilly sent him to PHH while erasing his memory as an anchor for the eventual swapping. So that means in order to swap back, the anchor must be removed. In this case, Fujimaru back inside CHALDEAS. That's my take on this.
That would be so fucking cool
All we really need tho is the background of our MC, we can't be still at the point of "he was sleeping in some alley of Chaldea with no idea of what was happening", it can be w/e but pls something
@@lotus4273 It exactly that. The fact that he has vague background making it more suspicious.
@@ZagiNoa Mash also found Fujimaru on the ground, sleeping like it's normal :') it's so weird to me, I mean the floor is freaking cold esp they're in Antarctica as well xD
and why is Fujimaru is sleep, he rayshifting form future back to chaldea. damn mindblow.
@@lotus4273 I dunno. Fujimaru is supposed to basically be the representation of everything positive about humanity. That's why they're completely average in everything except Servant Compatibility. Giving them a super special background kinda destroys that.
After the 7 Losbelts Disappeared and Now Ordeal Calls after Ordeal Calls disappeared,then Fujimaru What are the ordeals 🤣
Eu sabia que ia ter mais uma história depois dos lostbelts, esse pessoal adora uma trilogia.
Só achei uma pena o mistério do "Cosmo in the Lostbelt" não ter sido revelado no seu respectivo arco, foram 5 anos o Nasu segurando a playerbase para no fim responder quase nada, agora é aguardar mais uns anos para voltar a história original.
@@Apocaliptos1 o que aconteceu nesse final do LB??? Ainda não vi não entendo inglês.
@@thefinaldarkgod4559 vou resumir bem a partir do LB6: Neste chaldea luta contra Morgana e a Fairy Round Table a fim de impedir que ela sobrescreva o mundo das fadas sob o mundo nosso; Tunguska trata da verdadeira identidade da Koyanskaya; Traum é sobre a "morte" do Holmes e sobre a cobaia "E" na área 51; LB7 é como o Daybit tentou salvar o universo tentando destruir o mundo com o ORT, revelando que o verdadeiro inimigo é a Chaldeia (Marisbury e o Alien World). O prólogo que tem no vídeo é sobre a chaldeia ter abusado das classes extra dos servos e por isso eles não podem retornar para a base na Antártica (local onde o verdadeiro inimigo está) até vencer as 3 ou 4 singularidades que brotaram só agora.
They didn't count Musashi, one that is rejected by PHH
The extra classes, other than ruler, avenger, and alter ego, that we used before the lostbelts were foreigner, moon cancers, and….shielder
Just the Extra Classes? What about the Lostbelt Kings and Servants who couldn’t exist in Pan-Human History? Ivan, Skadi, Barghest, Melusine, Kukulkan, etc?
The Fantasy Trees (Rhongomyniad in Lostbelt 6, and ORT after eating the tree in Lostbelt 7) were sustaining the existence of their history. Otherwise they would have been erased from history as normal.
I think it makes sense why it's just those three classes out of the Extras that count as "abnormal". I mean, if you look at the others:
Shielder: Galahad is a known Shielder-class servant. I imagine that several servants actually qualify as shielder, but they default to other classes because they're the main ones.
Foreigner: An intrinsic part of PHH. Not only did Foreigner ORT arrive to Earth in response to humanity's presence, Voyager is a man-made Foreigner that carries undeniable proof of the existence of PHH. And there's Velber, who marked a defining turning point in PHH.
Pretender: By their nature, they can masquerade as different classes so they slip under the radar, and there are PHH Pretenders like Hephastion or the GUDA6 villain (the one impersonating its hosts - would explain Okuni's append).
Moon Cancer: A bit harder to explain, but all Moon Cancers are directly connected to BB, so it can be considered a contained phenomenon. Unlike Alter Ego which looks like anyone can get in if they have a mixed up spirit origin, you more or less need explicit permission from BB to use this class (unless you're Kiara, but she's also operating within the specifications of the class).
did they say what beast 7 actually was? cause if not then my bet will go to some derivative of the MC or even the one we play ourselves
Maybe instead of finding a way of advancement he's come to the conclusion like, Wallachia and all others who predicts and see the Future that there is no Future. Wallachia responds by becoming mad. The Dust of Osiris responds by trying to write down the entirety of humanity in a giant tablet...maybe Marisbury is in the same vein yet instead has come to the conclusion that the best possible course of action is finding a way to hide mankind from that? 🤔
Wallachia just sidn't become mad only. he actually started his search for fictitious 'sixth law' to save humanity. that's why he make deal with 'Ultimate One of Moon' to convert himself into TATARI.
@@HerMi.T Not Crimson Moon. Altrouge Brunestud, the master of blood and contracts.
Another possibility, that I read from reddit, is that Marisbury wants humanity to exist outside of earth. By making humans live in many different planets, he wanted to ensure the eternal survival of human race. Hence, having a "future".
to fight a enemy that normal rules can't handle, we have to step outside the rules ourselves.
but that also make us an entity that unacceptable by normal rules.
now what?
next chapter, player can only use 6 standard class and all extra class become unusable?
Wait.... Why did it end with the music of Septem ??? The hell ?
WHAT DID NERO DO ? AGAIN ???
if he only listed avenger, alter ego and ruler then we can conclude that foreigner, moon cancer and pretender are natural classes for the pan-human history. In this lostbelt we saw that clases like tlaloc as a pretender and kukulcan as a foreigner being "natural" classes, the question is: what about moon cancer? is it natural even when the main reason for their exist (A title bestowed to those who threaten the world of the Moon) is not in FGO universe? or we have any hint about the moon cell or something similar existing in the moon?
Why, I sure do hope this magical barrier never finds out about our good friend Queen Draco, haha! Wouldn't that be a bad time....
Imagine the second part of main story make only the 7 classes available to use. Luckily, castoria , koyan and skadi is under normal class.
Dear god no. I think people will riot if that happens.
Wait Just Had the thought: what If the ainsworth had Something to do with the bleaching? They talked about an old family which does Not affiliate with the clock Tower and Specializes in Placement Magecraft. It is the Miyuverse all along.
so if we realize our 'sins' then we can enter???? It feels like were not going to be able to use the extra classes we have
I have not read the rest of LB7, ,so, what I am about to say might have already been answered.
What about Daybit being from earth Chaldea?
Even Wodime, who was Animusphere #1 student, did not knew about this.
To know this much about his plan...he might be a victim of it.
The first one...maybe he is the whole survivir of Chaldeas.
Da vinci said that he wasn't human.
Maybe he is a copy from Chaldeas.
So the secret big bad of Arc 2 is going to be the big bad of Arc 3 then?
I thought that Olga, foreign God is actually CHALDEAS before for some reasons in their similarities like black hole etc. And it seems so