That's because that Urban Fiction-a_s movie pretty much overshadowed both Ike & Tinas' careers & did what it was created to do--Make Tina a bedwlnch Angel & Ike a Demon (Bonus points for him being black and the movie coming out shortly before the O.J. Simpson Trial)...
@@feliciaclark9533 Get up off you lazy flat behind and look it up yourself. Demanding something like you special. He’s telling the truth, Tina was NOT a nice person, it’s all an act!
Yea, they demonized Ike the same way they did Papa Joe Jackson, but Tina wouldn't change a thing if she could regarding Ike. He made her what she was the same way Joe made the Jackson 5, which ultimately gave birth to the greatest act the world has ever seen or will ever see, the late great Mickeal Jackson 👑
@@rayhanes1347 YES...and people can say what they want but the discipline he instilled in those children kept them out of the typical industry nonsense/scandals 'till this day.
@@heyheyEllKay Oh so you just "randomly" BELEIVE this charlatan in the video?? Tell me, if you do? And WHY do you believe this person? He did not know Tina Turner personally. Do your research about Ike, and about Tina, and countless of people who knew them. I don't need to "save you from misinformation" - YOU need to save yourself from misinformation and disinformation!
Same. My aunt used to work at a bank in Beverly Hills back in the day and she said Tina was always rude to the black tellers but nice to the white ones. She always held disdain for black people.
That movie ruined Ike … bro should be remembered as 1 of the 1st black rockstars & 1 of the greatest guitarist Ever! Instead ppl just remember him as the abuser from a Hollywood movie
But on a wider more sinister scale, the image of the black man as an abuser is subconsciously embedded in the people that watch the movie. Take that film, the Color Purple, and Fences and collectively the black man seems like the devil.
Me too, I been knowing bout this since 2011 and been trying to spread the word that the lady Tina Turner who the poster child for domestic violence relationships wasn’t really the victim we thought she was , but hopefully now everyone will know..
Everybody already know how she was. It's been a few people who actually know them, said she was just as worse as him. From fighting people, to sleeping with women with him and coning people. They just refuse to believe it cause she's Tina Turner.
He is not the first celebrity to say they've had an unpleasant encounter with Tina Turner, but because she's always portrayed as a victim in the media the stories that don't present her in a good light won't make the news. Elton John, Arsenio Hall, Little Richard and Darlene Love have all told stories about how she was rude to them. Tina was estranged from her own family. She never met her great-grandchildren. She didn’t even have a funeral with her family in attendance just like they weren't invited to her wedding. Tina was born a Black girl in Tennessee and died a European woman far removed from her roots in Switzerland.
I remember Keith Richards told a story about when Ike and Tina Turner were on tour with the Rolling Stones he heard them scuffling in their dressing room. When he looked out into the hallway Tina emerged looking immaculate and Ike was the one slumped over looking beat up. Keith said Tina wasn't someone to mess with and another person who was on tour with them said he saw Tina fooling around with Mick Jagger. Most people think of Laurence Fishburne when they think of Ike but Laurence was much bigger than him. Tina admitted in her first book that she had a bad temper when she was younger. She wasn't anyone's punching bag but it became profitable for her to portray herself as one.
Thanks for explaining that. Kinda reminds me of Brown’s Juneteenth vid that shows it’s more profitable to have a useless holiday that celebrates idleness or learned helplessness to not leave when massa gets owned. I wouldn’t hassle people for what they believe on these but it helps to know new perspectives that check out.
I met Tina Turner in 1986 as a fan and I was so disapointed over her she was rude og couldent Care less her attitude was like that I remember one of the band member saying to me she is tired so i totally believe what he is saying
Doesn’t make it true! Sounds more like revisionist history where he gets to make Ike the hero instead of the abusive drug addict villain he truly was! RIP Tina Turner the icon!
My husband friend was one of the drummers. He Said Tina was scared at the beginning but later on she wasn't a nobody's punk she would fight Ike back. Ijs
@nvm7191 Bobby didn't get Whitney on drugs.But he was definitely doing hard drugs way before he met Whitney.The new edition story and his behind the music said that years ago.
Patti Labelle said she played her in front of some white artist. Said she tried to hug Tina n Tina told her "No you are too sweaty" Ms. Pattie not gone lied. Wow. I believe it. I loved Tina but whats in the dark comes to the light
Black man, white man or such, people don't think a woman can be so abusive to their spouse. I have seen too many nasty mean women abuse their man then cry the victim. Sucks. My mom always said, it takes two to start an argument
That’s why he married Tina in Mexico it was a loophole so to speak cause he could have another wife on paper & the United States especially at that time recognized the marriage & they never disputed it…Ike was very talented but he was very greedy & a shiester
@@jordannorris4029 yet they want those same people to pay to see them in concerts. Remember there are “hoods” everywhere and they’re not always “poor” .
@@Choose_thisDeyAnd when you go to those concerts, nobody from the hood was there. Nuccas from the hood don’t go to concerts unless they robbed someone for the tickets 🙄
@@jordannorris4029you sound ignorant. We ALL owe our community once we come up. Only sellouts talk like YOU. We do want to do for ourselves and that's EXACTLY what Blk folks BEEN doin since we came to this country because NOBODY ELSE has done a d*mn thing for us. Get yo sellout @$$ on, tapdancer.
People don’t understand that you have to build this defense mechanism this wall this arrogance about you when you’ve been abused your whole life and people misconstrue that to be something else so when you don’t understand how abuse affects the person’s development and how they create a persona, especially because yes, she wasvery talented. She was the star and the fact that she’s a woman in this male dominated industry and people want to destroy her and discredit her come on let her go let the woman rest in peace.
2 women fighting each other is NOT a grown ass man fighting a woman. The fact Ike himself admitted it repeatedly & this unpleasant man is TRYING to reframe her life after she’s dead is TRASH. 🚮 Sheryl Lee Ralph had a really nasty run in with him
For those who are new, Judge Joe Brown has been publicly speaking about Tina being violent for years. Ike employed hundreds of people and he moved entire band from St. Louis to California. Ike helped Louis Jordan when he was having financial issues with the IRS. Little Richard wrote the introduction to Ike's book and said Ike helped him save his house from foreclosure. He created record labels to give his band opportunities to record singles. These are just a few stories of good deeds that Ike did which are never publicized. Ike claimed to have been married 14 times yet only one bitter ex-wife demonized him for decades. He was friends with a few of his ex-wives who have defended him. Tina was mad that she didn't get the money and property she wanted in the divorce. Contrary to popular belief it is documented that she wanted to keep more than just her name. She also made an offer to continue performing with Ike during their divorce. That doesn't sound like a battered woman who is in fear of her life. If Ike had compromised with her history would have been different. Instead she became resentful and she knew it would be her word against his.
There is also a movie bot about Ike and Tina Turner but it's called men don't tell. That movie was about the woman being the aggressor and hitting the husband.
@@daliahpitter2737oh wow I remember that! Didn’t really think it was about them, it was never rebroadcast cuz of salty women’s group didn’t fit their narrative
How come Ike never showed any proof of this so-called abuse? How come Ike Turner never made these allegations against Tina? Why didn't Joe Brown make these allegations when Tina Turner was alive, why wait until she's deceased and unable to defend herself? This is very lame.
Do some homework, he has interviews talking about the same exact things from years back. Don’t assume he hasn’t just because you haven’t looked for it.
She wasn’t loud enough, she should have went out her way to clear his name , that movie made that man look like a devil on earth, so her saying it was a lie in a magazine or a book not good enough ..
Even Tina Turner said the movie did not depict Ike correctly. She said the s.a scene was totally made up and never happened. He was branded a wife beater. So awful to do that to somebody.
@@michaelangelotaylor8th What trauma are you talking about? Stop reaching before you hurt yourself. There is no proof or evidence that Tina was a husband beater but there is actual proof that Ike was a wife beater and couldn't keep a wife. Even though y'all are trying to rewrite history like y'all always do. What people are saying is that she was mean to some people and that she hit him back. No one has said that she was beating on Ike unprovoked, without him hitting her first.
Ike was a great guy. Here is a story. I hired him to play at a Casino in the 90s. In the morning he was at the door handing out fliers! I said Mr. Turner no need, I spent 3 grand on promotion! 😅😅 😅 We talked later, I heard the same stories that you have told Judge. He got a raw deal! (This was not long after the TV stuff demonizing poor Ike. He was no monster!!!!
@@tranquility9325 Correct. According to HG Tudor, Narcissists (sufferers of Narcissistic Personality Disorder/NPD) do not intensely abuse anyone else but the Intimate Partner. That's the one who gets all the abuse. Everyone else thinks the Narcissist is great.
@@cast_calI won’t speak on Ike because idk him. Also, I do believe Judge Brown is just brutally honest and what he says about Tina calling them names and acting the way he said is the truth. However, I know for a fact narcissistic people will drag you down into misery. They will abuse you relentlessly untuck your finally react and it makes you appear crazy to everyone. That’s how they want you to look to everyone unless they’re wanting specific people to think their spouse is amazing because it benefits them somehow. So, I’m with you guys. I can’t speak on Tina but I also don’t think we can speak on Ike. None of us know them or were even around them.
@tranquility9325 I have seen it all. I knew them both. Ike was not what he was pictured as. I do not "believe all women" News flash, women can lie just as easily as men.
My aunt's knew Diana Ross and they said the exact same thing about Tina Turner. I thought they were just hating on her at the time because they used to hate on Diana Ross.
A My granny and Great aunts told me stories about Diana Ross and 'em because one of my granny and my great aunt's brothers lived in Detroit and he knew Berry Gordy as well and they used to go around there because they were all around the same age as Diana Ross and 'em...so I've heard some stories and I've heard stories about Johnny Taylor I've heard stories about Tina Turner.
No, it’s actually not. I highly doubt Tina actually owns rights to her own image. Look at anybody talking about the industry and how record deals are typed up. These artists are just puppets, and they don’t have control over anything in their lives, or how they’re portrayed.
The black community owes Ike Turner a apology we all made jokes about him pretty much making him the face of domestic violence when that movie was a complete lie, I think Ike die from a broken heart I heard he couldn’t even perform at certain places because of the reputation that movie gave him..smh ..🖕🏽Tina Turner
You wild should we apologize to Diddy, James Brown, and R Kelly also? Ike was a dope head, sociopathic, women beater. He wasn't a good person so stop the b.s. And if you read up on Tinas life she wasnt a really good person either.
Ike said Tina was a piece of work. That doesn't mean he didn't beat her. Some of these comments make it seem as if her story was a lie, 2 things can be true. Same for Ike, he could have definitely been talking to kids doesn't mean he wasn't a woman beater. He never denied beating her he just said he wasn't the only one swinging.
@@atlysrayl Tina didn't say that. She said some of the scenes were contrived to move the story along. However the movie's overall message was not erroneous. That's why Ike didn't sue her. He also got money from the movie because his songs were in it.
Tina was a piece of work she even spoke on it in her book I Tina. People also think she left Ike because of abuse and that was not true, she left because Ike never made her number one, he loved Ann Thomas and Tina couldn’t take it anymore. Tina was business not his love.
Bro what really made people hate Ike Turner was that R@pe scene that was in the movie. Tina Turner admitted that that never happened, but she still allowed that to go in the movie. Damn shame
If One person tells me something, I usually take it with a grain of salt. When dozens of people tell me the same thing, even when those people don't know each other, the story is usually true. Tina was a monster with lipstick. Ike was no saint, but Tina is no angel.
If One person tells me something, I usually take it with a grain of salt. When dozens of people tell me the same thing, even when those people don't know each other, the story is usually true. Tina was a monster with lipstick. Ike was no saint, but Tina is no angel.
I've heard this from a few people, not just Judge Joe. But you know how it is whenever a woman claims she was this, that, or the third... HER antics are glossed over.
There are two sides to every story. I’m sure Tina did some foul things, but the folks here acting like Ike was an angel are deceiving themselves. They were both flawed like we all are. Only thing I can tell you for sure about them is they were both masters of their crafts, and I’m a fan of the music created by both of them.
Facts, even if she was big a-hole, it doesn't take away from her musical accomplishments. Celebrities shouldn't be your role models anyway. Just enjoy their work.
It's actually the opposite. Y'all want Ike to be a monster because it fits a narrative. If you hit someone and they beat your ahh woman or man, so be it. Combat or self defense isn't abuse.
She even talked about Ike’s verbal and physical abuse and her eldest son who Ike adopted even admitted to witnessed and hearing his mom being beaten. Judge brown you didn’t live in his household so you don’t know what happened behind closed doors. While Ike was counseling you and your buddies he went home snort cocaine and beat his wife in front of their kids . Are you gonna call her oldest son a liar? And for all you trolls who dont agree with me don’t waste your breath or time messaging me unless you agree.
All biopics be bull$hit lies or over exaggerated bull$hit..hell I heard The Temptations biopic was a lot of lies people who knew David Ruffin say he wasn’t this arrogant cocky a$$hole they made him look like in the movie..a lot of times directors make up things to make the story more interesting…
It is amazing how people allow the emotions that song and messaging via TV and music clouds their perception of people. Then when someone speaks the truth that destroys that perception, they attack the messenger instead of adjusting their already-idolatrous view on the person they're speaking about. Happens a ton with people in music, because music goes to people's core/soul.
Your absolutely correct, most of our view of reality are shaped by STORIES, and those stories are often tainted by politics, economics, occult practices, memory lapses, etc.
You've hit the nail on the head. It takes a lot to separate the musician from the real person. Whom most of the time turns out to be rather nasty and the exact opposite of the attributes related to the music they sing.
Ike Turner had 10 other wife’s and none of them said he abused them…Tina lied yea they fought but it was mutual a lot of times she hit him first, so to make him the face of domestic violence was wrong…
The Judge 🧑⚖️ not throwing Ike under the table a lot of women start fights with men because they know if you do choose to beat them up. They’re called a police or get a family member involved. Don’t hit them, but they can hit you.
He didn't say that he's just saying that tina turner wasn't know meek scared women like they did in the movie the relationship was like chrisean rock and blue face a little..
Facts when they lied and acted like she had her first baby with Ike instead of telling the truth that she had a baby with Ike homeboy before she even messed with Ike nobody should have took that movie seriously…
Joe brown is ridiculous. Ike never even claimed that Tina hit her. She was the abused one for years and many people who saw the have spoken on behalf of Tina years ago.
And what's worse is it was films like "Whats Love Gotta Do" that drove a huge wedge between BM and BW in the 90s that is still felt to this day. The BM has always been a target with his image dragged in the mud.
Seriously??? The movie is what did it??? Black men never cheated, had multiple side pieces and “secret” side families that most people knew about, was DLing it, and passing diseases to their women from other black men’s peens, and had never beat their women before the 90’s or when this movie came out??? Thank you for clearing that up for me because I never could pinpoint when it was exactly that black women began becoming distrustful of black men. 🤔
Black women happily wrote books made movies and songs denigrating the image of black men. And they made millions and millions of dollars from it. That’s why they say money is the root of all evil.
@@Sponsorship4u2you just conveniently disengaged from what the judge just said huh? Women like you are reason women feel it’s okay to hit men with no reaction….shame on you
@@alansjf33Arsenio did not say she was hostile to him. He said her representatives put him out of a dressing room. How do any of us know that Tina knew about this.
That was deep. I didn't know judge Brown was from LA. I use to know Ike also. In 1985 my friend took me to meet Ike at his apartment in North Hollywood, he lived in my friend's father's building. Ike wanted to learn how to use the new Linn Drum machine he bought. Same kind of drum machine in "When Doves Cry" by Prince. I knew how to use it. I was not yet a producer, I was still a kid. I taught him to program beats for 3 hours for 4 days. Years later I become a producer and had a studio on Hollywood Blvd., a friend back then who is now a big podcaster named Zoe brought Ike to my studio. I think Kool Moe Dee introduced me to Zoe btw. I reminded Ike of when I taught him the Linn Drum and he remembered me. He was a nice guy. Funny, a little crazy like an uncle would be at a barbecue. I couldn't see the devil the media always try to make him out to be. He would come to my studio every once a while and hang out. Joe brown knows what he's talking about
Tina lived in a bad neighborhood after her divorce from Ike she said. She feared for her life that's why she carried. I never heard about Randy Jackson.
So Tina was friends with Randy’s then girlfriend Bernadette Leonard. She ran to Tina’s house after Randy ran after her and banged on Tina’s door. Bernadette is married to Suga Ray Leonard.
A few years ago, I watched a guitar based channel interview with Keith Richards (of the Rolling Stones)(he doesn't do interviews often & im a fan). Him & the host were playing acoustic guitars & somehow Ike & Tina (who toured with the Stones) came up in the conversation. He mentioned how they would fight in the dressing room & Ike would come out looking worse than Tina. Here's my analysis: They were bad for each other & some great music came out of it. She was one of the greatest of her time, but I can also see how she used the book & movie to capitalize on her agenda/music career to antagonize Ike. It ruined his life & eventually led him to od in '07. Thank God for research.
Yea another thang crazy in the movie Ike character was way bigger than Tina so it looked even worst seeing her get beat but in real life Ike was a small dude and him and Tina was damn near the same size..
Well..Hollywood is set up to portray Black Men as either Violent, Funny or Gay. And Black Dramas have all three characters written in.Black Women are portrayed as Ghetto, Abusive Mothers or Needing a Zaddy. I hate that good Black Writers are buried in the industry and one feel good movies comes out every few years.
@judaz3000 unless you are watching a documentary or a video about learning a noble craft or artistry, there's nothing out there. It's by design. Our white brothers and sisters are also being stereotyped by the same machine. It's just in a different way. As a young adult, I was all into the 90's transformed Tina Turner.. I went to her concert and at the time it was awesome! As a stray sheep, I had no idea my mind was being steered by media. The kool aid is tasty till you taste the cyanide.
As someone from St Louis allow me to say This is a Fact, that movie told half truth, it made Ike look like a villain an Tina a victim. Which was not true
I knew the family cause i lived just around the corner. I used to play with Ron and was over at their house alot. Mrs Turner was always nice. I grew up knowing her. Elementary school to college. When she got real famous she moved to Palos Verde gated community.
Wow! That’s exciting you actually knew Tina and family. What were your observations about Craig. You know he committed suicide at the age of 59. Tina said he was always a sad child. What were your observations.
@@feliciaclark9533 Hello. Iknew nothing of Craig. Didnt know he existed. The boys never mentioned him. The whole time i knew them, i never saw pops either. If he was only there at night i wouldnt see him but i know he started living in his studio around 69 or so. He would slap around his singing girls Ron would tell me. I knew their dog, the big great dane Onyx. Biggest dog you ever saw.
@@feliciaclark9533 Yeah, always nice. In the kitchen most of the time i saw her. She even loaned me Onyx one day. I thought she was gonna say no but she just looked at me like, what next. But i figured she wanted to let Onyx get out of the house. She just went into the back yard and came back with Onyx on a leash and gave him to me.
As a woman, this is very interesting to hear. He sounds credible in his recounts of some of the incidents involving Tina. We always have to remember that there are two sides to every story. And that the media will always do whatever they can to tarnish a black man’s legacy.
The movie was clearly a lie , in that movie they made it look like Ike Turner took her virginity and then she got pregnant and had his kid but in real life she had a baby by Ike homeboy before he even started messing with her..that shows how Hollywood went out they way to lie just to give her this fake goodie two shoes image..
If that was the case then why wait until Tina is dead. No one spoke up. I don’t believe Ike was an angel. Black women don’t have the highest femicide rate among all races of women for no reason.
Good to know .. just heard “what’s live got to do with it “ at the gym and this changes my perspective .. poor Ike .. I know my sisters will go to their graves still believing Ike was a monster and Tina an angel victim
I remember watching an interview with Keith Richards and he said that Tina was more than capable of handling herself around Ike and she definitely gave as well as she got. Ike and Tina opened for the Stones during their US tour of 69.
Facts plus that movie put in are heads that Ike was wayyy bigger than Tina because Lawrence was way bigger than Angela but in real life Tina and Ike was the same size Ike was tiny as hell..
You defended her because you were brainwashed by the media. All they have to do is write a book or make a movie and you will most likely believe everything that you read or see. I call it the ‘Color Purple’ effect. This book which was later turned into a movie was also written by a black woman who was also a divestor You should be skeptical anytime information comes from a black woman, and it is negative towards black men.
This is why the art of storytelling should never be forgotten bc I swear this is the first time EVER hearing this and I'm 40!!!!😮
I never heard it before either
Your a female, u didn't want to hear it
Maen ....i share the same sentiment...im 40 never heard of this...
That's because that Urban Fiction-a_s movie pretty much overshadowed both Ike & Tinas' careers & did what it was created to do--Make Tina a bedwlnch Angel & Ike a Demon (Bonus points for him being black and the movie coming out shortly before the O.J. Simpson Trial)...
Yeah sounds unbelievable...I'm 52 never heard this ...😮
For the woman who are abused we definitely stand with you. But women who attack men then play victim is criminal in this country smh.
Facts 🎉
Women need to check them instead of the "it wasn't me" but women defend the toxic ones.. yikes!
Certainly boosted her career when it was lagging
That's most of them these days. They initiate it more than the men.
Not everyone stand by them ,speak for yourself, some women got abused because they hurt men and men fought back that's all 😢
Never knew this about Ike. Thank you Judge Joe Brown for taking Ike’s advice for keeping your life together.
Ike Turners kids said he wasn’t abusive and that Tina Turner was lying.
When Ms Winfrey endorsed Tina I knew the story was fishy!
@@treetop1283show me the interview. That’s a lie.
@@feliciaclark9533 Get up off you lazy flat behind and look it up yourself. Demanding something like you special. He’s telling the truth, Tina was NOT a nice person, it’s all an act!
Judge Joe Brown ain’t the first person that I’ve heard said that Tina was foul.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Heard she was extra from a co worker who grew up out there...said her grandmother said she was evil
who else besides Patti said that
Yea, they demonized Ike the same way they did Papa Joe Jackson, but Tina wouldn't change a thing if she could regarding Ike. He made her what she was the same way Joe made the Jackson 5, which ultimately gave birth to the greatest act the world has ever seen or will ever see, the late great Mickeal Jackson 👑
@@rayhanes1347 YES...and people can say what they want but the discipline he instilled in those children kept them out of the typical industry nonsense/scandals 'till this day.
Tina had a baby with one of Ike’s band mates. They conveniently left that out the movie..
Do you blame her for having a baby with someone that actually loved her compared to a husband that was physically and mentally abusive
Yes...that baby was b4 she and Ike got to together. They were just friends for a long time
Damn
@@Jani28in judge Joe voice 😂😂
Dam I didn’t know that smh
My grandmother used to assure me that the truth would always come out! So glad it is here!!
This is far from the truth, but people are obviously so gullible. It's simply incredible......
@@planetthunderstorm oh thank you so much random Internet person! You’ve saved us from misinformation once again… ha!!
@@heyheyEllKay Oh so you just "randomly" BELEIVE this charlatan in the video?? Tell me, if you do? And WHY do you believe this person? He did not know Tina Turner personally. Do your research about Ike, and about Tina, and countless of people who knew them. I don't need to "save you from misinformation" - YOU need to save yourself from misinformation and disinformation!
My grandparents knew Ike and Tina. My grandmother used to tell stories about those chitlin circuit days, she said Tina was a piece of work.
May you please share
@@debbiealexis8585 I'll say, you got an eyeful if you sat in the front row... oh and she was a recruiter.
Same. My aunt used to work at a bank in Beverly Hills back in the day and she said Tina was always rude to the black tellers but nice to the white ones. She always held disdain for black people.
@@thekeshkesh "an eyefull". Is that because of the very short skirts she would wear?
@@thekeshkesha recruiter??? She was a pimp??
That movie ruined Ike … bro should be remembered as 1 of the 1st black rockstars & 1 of the greatest guitarist Ever! Instead ppl just remember him as the abuser from a Hollywood movie
“Eat the cake, Anna Mae”- Ike Turner
But on a wider more sinister scale, the image of the black man as an abuser is subconsciously embedded in the people that watch the movie. Take that film, the Color Purple, and Fences and collectively the black man seems like the devil.
facts, ike is responsible for helping create one of the first rock songs ever (rocket 88) in 1951.
He said Ike was always a nice guy & later called him a hero?? But somehow Ike didn't know how the movie was gonna portray him??
@@williamwalsh1533I wonder who funded those movies 🤔
I hope this clip goes viral... People need to know the TRUTH about Ike and Tina.
Agreed. They smut poor Ike up
Me too, I been knowing bout this since 2011 and been trying to spread the word that the lady Tina Turner who the poster child for domestic violence relationships wasn’t really the victim we thought she was , but hopefully now everyone will know..
@@BlackBiker1017 Let's finance a really good documentary about it. I'll drop 100k to start.
🎉Dayuuumm her too. Sheeeettt. All of Hwood is completely compromised.
Everybody already know how she was. It's been a few people who actually know them, said she was just as worse as him. From fighting people, to sleeping with women with him and coning people. They just refuse to believe it cause she's Tina Turner.
He is not the first celebrity to say they've had an unpleasant encounter with Tina Turner, but because she's always portrayed as a victim in the media the stories that don't present her in a good light won't make the news. Elton John, Arsenio Hall, Little Richard and Darlene Love have all told stories about how she was rude to them. Tina was estranged from her own family. She never met her great-grandchildren. She didn’t even have a funeral with her family in attendance just like they weren't invited to her wedding. Tina was born a Black girl in Tennessee and died a European woman far removed from her roots in Switzerland.
She also renounced her United States citizenship
She wanted nothing to do with Black Society or America
True
Yeah rest in peace to her but her own children didn't really deal with her. This is documented facts.
With an English accent to boot.
I’m so glad the truth finally getting out….
I remember Keith Richards told a story about when Ike and Tina Turner were on tour with the Rolling Stones he heard them scuffling in their dressing room. When he looked out into the hallway Tina emerged looking immaculate and Ike was the one slumped over looking beat up. Keith said Tina wasn't someone to mess with and another person who was on tour with them said he saw Tina fooling around with Mick Jagger. Most people think of Laurence Fishburne when they think of Ike but Laurence was much bigger than him. Tina admitted in her first book that she had a bad temper when she was younger. She wasn't anyone's punching bag but it became profitable for her to portray herself as one.
Thanks for explaining that. Kinda reminds me of Brown’s Juneteenth vid that shows it’s more profitable to have a useless holiday that celebrates idleness or learned helplessness to not leave when massa gets owned. I wouldn’t hassle people for what they believe on these but it helps to know new perspectives that check out.
Whaaaat???
Yeah a lot of people get confused about that. Ike was a little guy. Probably 140 pounds soaking wet.
Wow. First time hearing this. I believed her story.
Other people wrote about her being crazy as well smh
I met Tina Turner in 1986 as a fan and I was so disapointed over her she was rude og couldent Care less her attitude was like that I remember one of the band member saying to me she is tired so i totally believe what he is saying
What exactly did you observe her doing or saying. I would like to know.
Judge Joe Brown has been talking about this for years now. His story has never changed. 🙃
Doesn’t make it true! Sounds more like revisionist history where he gets to make Ike the hero instead of the abusive drug addict villain he truly was!
RIP Tina Turner the icon!
@@Sponsorship4u2lol always the black woman smh
@@Sponsorship4u2u was there? shutup
@@hasaanhasaniwere* 🤡
@@Sponsorship4u2Well said and I totally agree with you.
My Mom’s Ex-Boyfriend was a huge Tina Turner fan, he told me,
“That movie ain’t telling the truth, Tina was whipping Ike too and way worse”
My husband friend was one of the drummers. He Said Tina was scared at the beginning but later on she wasn't a nobody's punk she would fight Ike back. Ijs
@@torriebrown9607 so she’s a bad person for fighting back?
@@LadyOO not at all. Joe act like she was the problem. Ike meet her as a young teenager he Expose her to that environment.
@@LadyOODid you listen to the interview? She was a bad person for how she treated people outside of Ike. Dont be a bot
I mean self defense
Without this interview, some of us would've never known the other side of the account. Big thanks, very interesting 💯
He's lying
They vilified Ike to cover up Tina’s personality in an effort to protect their investment
Pretty much
What else have they lied about?
15 Days to Flatten the Earth.
@@bigobannon4564 THANK YOU.!!!
@@wirelessone2986I side eye 😒 everyone who’s cozy’d up to Oprah.. and Tina did do that. 😒
Stuff like this is what i grew up hearing about Tina & Ike Turner...totally opposite of the story thats publicized
Just like they made it look like Bobby got Whitney hooked but it was the other way around smh
😂😂😂😂😂 facts @@nvm7191
Facts
Ike was my grandmother's 1st cousin. I always heard this growing up too.
@nvm7191 Bobby didn't get Whitney on drugs.But he was definitely doing hard drugs way before he met Whitney.The new edition story and his behind the music said that years ago.
I could listen to Judge Brown talk all day.
He’s very knowledgeable and has so much information.
I bet you could
We need him on Club Shay Shay😮
No tf we don't! Judge Brown too real for that!
No
Shay Shay would just keep giggling like Kamala
Man Shannon Sharpe aint having him on.....we know Shannon aint ready for that
Shannon or Joe rogan
Agreed, fuck club gay gay@@pimptheuniverse
Don’t nobody say (damn) like judge Joe 😂😂😂
Ron Simmons
Keefe d
Daaamn, those are all good. Lol
keefe D
Day um!!!!
Why bad mouth Tina, and she’s dead, not here to defend herself? It goes both ways! R.I.P🙏🏽
He's not bad mouthing Tina, he's presenting his experience with Ike.
Judge Joe Brown is NOT playing
He is a has been. Always talking down on somebody! Yuck!!!
He may not be playing, but he sure is lying.....
@planetthunderstorm it's no secret that Tina was a bitch. The media never reported on that side of her.To them....she was some kind of abused saint.
It's no secret that Tina was a bitch.The media never reported on that side of her.They made her out to be some kind of abused saint.
@@planetthunderstormare u saying Tina could never do any wrong ?
Patti Labelle said she played her in front of some white artist. Said she tried to hug Tina n Tina told her "No you are too sweaty" Ms. Pattie not gone lied. Wow. I believe it. I loved Tina but whats in the dark comes to the light
@TheArtOfDialogue71 no thanks scammers
Good lawd!!!
1985 Philadelphia live aid concert to help raise 💰 for Ethiopian starvation victims is where that happened. Patty Labelle told no lies.
I don't blame Tina for that yuck
@@gunitundaboss2404 she could have been more polite. Ms. Pattie said she laughed at her and ignored her. It's your delivery
I never heard this story. Thank you Judge Brown.
He's lying
Ppl never want the full story. Not popular to say the Black man was actually a good dude and the woman was bad.
Black man, white man or such, people don't think a woman can be so abusive to their spouse. I have seen too many nasty mean women abuse their man then cry the victim. Sucks. My mom always said, it takes two to start an argument
Ya, you can’t speak Ill of black women. You’ll get accused of hate speech. Ask me how I know.
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But Ike admitted he abused Tina
Facts
He’s not the only one that said Tina was mean. I heard she had a very nasty attitude.
Who else said it?
I allway's thought she was a nice person, the movie portrayed her as being very abused... but wow!!
@@tjc2993 I think Patty Labelle hinted at Tina wasn’t always so nice and Aretha Franklin as well.
This is common with Bdubs.
Ask Patti Labelle 😂
Ike had 14 wives and didnt end with 1... seriously that alone speaks to anyone's character....
That’s why he married Tina in Mexico it was a loophole so to speak cause he could have another wife on paper & the United States especially at that time recognized the marriage & they never disputed it…Ike was very talented but he was very greedy & a shiester
But so was she.
He definitely was no saint, but at least 12 dumb women were foolish enough to be duped. That perspective hits different.
You never forget adults that mistreat you. Even at judge’s age.
This is needed. They always play victim and do nothing for the hood!
Their obligations are to themselves and their families not to people who won’t do anything for them selves
@@jordannorris4029 yet they want those same people to pay to see them in concerts. Remember there are “hoods” everywhere and they’re not always “poor” .
@@Choose_thisDeyAnd when you go to those concerts, nobody from the hood was there. Nuccas from the hood don’t go to concerts unless they robbed someone for the tickets 🙄
@choose_thisdey i agree
@@jordannorris4029you sound ignorant. We ALL owe our community once we come up. Only sellouts talk like YOU. We do want to do for ourselves and that's EXACTLY what Blk folks BEEN doin since we came to this country because NOBODY ELSE has done a d*mn thing for us. Get yo sellout @$$ on, tapdancer.
Ike's "rocket 88" is the beginning of rock n roll music. Rip legend.
Yep, there was no Rock in 1951 until that song dropped.
Rocket 88 is the first rock and roll song! Great tune! That's something everyone should know.
I'd say it was Fats Domino that invented it(1950), Chuck Berry just compiled other ppl elements together. Ike may have beaten Chuck out, not sure.
Big facts
Tina was a true B. Even my aunt said the same thing. My aunt worked at the Marriott hotel and when Tina came she was rude.
People don’t understand that you have to build this defense mechanism this wall this arrogance about you when you’ve been abused your whole life and people misconstrue that to be something else so when you don’t understand how abuse affects the person’s development and how they create a persona, especially because yes, she wasvery talented. She was the star and the fact that she’s a woman in this male dominated industry and people want to destroy her and discredit her come on let her go let the woman rest in peace.
@@HummingBird_Circlewhy they won’t let Ike Rest In Peace. They shit and piss on him every chance they get
@@khamiahsimmons957 why not just talk about the success of Ike instead of the PRIVATE DRAMA
@@HummingBird_Circle Right! Ppl be so involved with celebrities personal lives like they know them personally.
I believe it.
2 women fighting each other is NOT a grown ass man fighting a woman. The fact Ike himself admitted it repeatedly & this unpleasant man is TRYING to reframe her life after she’s dead is TRASH. 🚮 Sheryl Lee Ralph had a really nasty run in with him
coke heads stick together I see
@@12pope idiot
Don't always believe the media.
NEVER believe the media!!
YUP!! People just swallow that blue media pill believing everything they say! Sad!
*ever
Don't EVER believe the media.
Facts
For those who are new, Judge Joe Brown has been publicly speaking about Tina being violent for years. Ike employed hundreds of people and he moved entire band from St. Louis to California. Ike helped Louis Jordan when he was having financial issues with the IRS. Little Richard wrote the introduction to Ike's book and said Ike helped him save his house from foreclosure. He created record labels to give his band opportunities to record singles. These are just a few stories of good deeds that Ike did which are never publicized. Ike claimed to have been married 14 times yet only one bitter ex-wife demonized him for decades. He was friends with a few of his ex-wives who have defended him. Tina was mad that she didn't get the money and property she wanted in the divorce. Contrary to popular belief it is documented that she wanted to keep more than just her name. She also made an offer to continue performing with Ike during their divorce. That doesn't sound like a battered woman who is in fear of her life. If Ike had compromised with her history would have been different. Instead she became resentful and she knew it would be her word against his.
Wow this is why hollweird and false accusations cab kill someone's legacy behind the bulljive!!! I knee it was more to that story.
Ok Indibud_X aka lipstick alley user. Go back to trolling on Beyonce forums. We've known this stuff for years
I had no idea Ike did these good things.
There is also a movie bot about Ike and Tina Turner but it's called men don't tell. That movie was about the woman being the aggressor and hitting the husband.
@@daliahpitter2737oh wow I remember that! Didn’t really think it was about them, it was never rebroadcast cuz of salty women’s group didn’t fit their narrative
How come Ike never showed any proof of this so-called abuse? How come Ike Turner never made these allegations against Tina? Why didn't Joe Brown make these allegations when Tina Turner was alive, why wait until she's deceased and unable to defend herself? This is very lame.
Do some homework, he has interviews talking about the same exact things from years back. Don’t assume he hasn’t just because you haven’t looked for it.
Many people need to start waking up. There is so much that you have been lied to about. The mainstream media is a well-oiled propaganda machine.
That part! He knew he would get sued, that’s why.
Tina Turner out here own mouth said that the movie was a lie.
Her and Ike have said the scene of SA never happened.
Yeah, she said Ike never raped her. That wasn't in her book. I'm surprised he never sued.
Big facto
@@Brother_Dre1900damn that scene was hot!
She wasn’t loud enough, she should have went out her way to clear his name , that movie made that man look like a devil on earth, so her saying it was a lie in a magazine or a book not good enough ..
Even Tina Turner said the movie did not depict Ike correctly. She said the s.a scene was totally made up and never happened. He was branded a wife beater. So awful to do that to somebody.
No she didn't, I saw an interview of her talking about it, and she said it happened more than once
Ike only admitted he beat her just before he died
I grew up with Mrs Turner. I lived half a block away.
He was a wife beater. He just didn't sexually assault her as it was depicted in the movie but he was abusive.
@@filmadcamp1512and she was a husband beater. You have no point. Stop reflecting your own trauma onto others.
@@michaelangelotaylor8th What trauma are you talking about? Stop reaching before you hurt yourself.
There is no proof or evidence that Tina was a husband beater but there is actual proof that Ike was a wife beater and couldn't keep a wife. Even though y'all are trying to rewrite history like y'all always do. What people are saying is that she was mean to some people and that she hit him back. No one has said that she was beating on Ike unprovoked, without him hitting her first.
She probably was mean like her mom. Apples 🍎 don't fall far from the tree 🎄
Ike was a great guy. Here is a story. I hired him to play at a Casino in the 90s. In the morning he was at the door handing out fliers! I said Mr. Turner no need, I spent 3 grand on promotion! 😅😅 😅
We talked later, I heard the same stories that you have told Judge. He got a raw deal! (This was not long after the TV stuff demonizing poor Ike. He was no monster!!!!
he coulda been outside of that one situation way before you ever met him
Unless you were married to him you have nothing to say about his character.
@@tranquility9325 Correct. According to HG Tudor, Narcissists (sufferers of Narcissistic Personality Disorder/NPD) do not intensely abuse anyone else but the Intimate Partner. That's the one who gets all the abuse. Everyone else thinks the Narcissist is great.
@@cast_calI won’t speak on Ike because idk him. Also, I do believe Judge Brown is just brutally honest and what he says about Tina calling them names and acting the way he said is the truth. However, I know for a fact narcissistic people will drag you down into misery. They will abuse you relentlessly untuck your finally react and it makes you appear crazy to everyone. That’s how they want you to look to everyone unless they’re wanting specific people to think their spouse is amazing because it benefits them somehow.
So, I’m with you guys. I can’t speak on Tina but I also don’t think we can speak on Ike. None of us know them or were even around them.
@tranquility9325
I have seen it all. I knew them both. Ike was not what he was pictured as. I do not "believe all women" News flash, women can lie just as easily as men.
My aunt's knew Diana Ross and they said the exact same thing about Tina Turner. I thought they were just hating on her at the time because they used to hate on Diana Ross.
A My granny and Great aunts told me stories about Diana Ross and 'em because one of my granny and my great aunt's brothers lived in Detroit and he knew Berry Gordy as well and they used to go around there because they were all around the same age as Diana Ross and 'em...so I've heard some stories and I've heard stories about Johnny Taylor I've heard stories about Tina Turner.
@@cosmicneuromelanatedgoddess what did they say about Diana?
Your Aunts were not haters, In sure that they are lovely women. See, Tina and Diana were the exact same type of person, you see who they married
Ironically, Diana Ross and Tina Turner are both OG divestors who had a hatred of black society and in particular - black men
And Diana Ross is my cousin well my grandma cousin and I heard the stories bout her too
I LOVE JUDGE JOE BROWN. HE HAS NEVER BEEN A SELL-OUT & NEVER BEEN AFAUD TO SPEAK THE TRUTH!❤😊❤😊❤😊❤
All these years I thought Judge Joe Brown was from the South.... Never knew it was South Central LA 😮
LA is country like the south when it comes to accents.
His parents are probably from down south and he picked up their accent
@@panama8009 You have to remember when people were coming from the South ' around that time, the 2 places they went to 2 was Chicago or California.
@MsBoujeeGisele Also NYC as well. American Blacks went there to escape racism and to find jobs. I'm sure there were more states they've migrated.
@@MsBoujeevalentíaor Detroit
They failed to show her do drugs in the movie too 🙏🏾
There was money to be made from Tina, not Ike
And smashing white musicians like Mick Jagger, and many more while still married to Ike.
because she didnt
@user-qb6fq5xr6b they both had relationship outside the marriage.
And the playboy mansion orgies…
He signed off on a movie but didn’t know how he would be characterized? Say what? That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen
No, it’s actually not. I highly doubt Tina actually owns rights to her own image. Look at anybody talking about the industry and how record deals are typed up. These artists are just puppets, and they don’t have control over anything in their lives, or how they’re portrayed.
Tina reminds of grandmother evil as hell , but plays victim so well.
The black community owes Ike Turner a apology we all made jokes about him pretty much making him the face of domestic violence when that movie was a complete lie, I think Ike die from a broken heart I heard he couldn’t even perform at certain places because of the reputation that movie gave him..smh ..🖕🏽Tina Turner
An apology? Aint he dead?
@@MIGGYME1 u know what I mean..lol.
The pian0 scene 😆
You wild should we apologize to Diddy, James Brown, and R Kelly also? Ike was a dope head, sociopathic, women beater. He wasn't a good person so stop the b.s. And if you read up on Tinas life she wasnt a really good person either.
they both really ain't shit tbh
This man needs to come back on tv.
Ike said Tina was a piece of work. That doesn't mean he didn't beat her. Some of these comments make it seem as if her story was a lie, 2 things can be true. Same for Ike, he could have definitely been talking to kids doesn't mean he wasn't a woman beater. He never denied beating her he just said he wasn't the only one swinging.
THANK YOU! Lmao my people are a trip…including the Judge
The movie portrayed him as a Devil and her as a victim. Color Purple narrative. It definitely was an agenda that has us at odds today.
Doesnt mean she wasnt a hoe that was sleeping with everybody
Tina herself said that movie was erroneous.
@@atlysrayl Tina didn't say that. She said some of the scenes were contrived to move the story along. However the movie's overall message was not erroneous. That's why Ike didn't sue her. He also got money from the movie because his songs were in it.
You could searched the world over and not find any more honest judge than Judge Joe Brown
I'm not sure I would go that far
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Please. Ike was an abusive dope head
The media only lets you hear one side of the story, the side that promotes their societal narrative
Tina was a piece of work she even spoke on it in her book I Tina. People also think she left Ike because of abuse and that was not true, she left because Ike never made her number one, he loved Ann Thomas and Tina couldn’t take it anymore. Tina was business not his love.
Who was Ann Thomas??
@@BosschickSherion3one of the Ikettes.
@@BosschickSherion3 Tina’s co-wife basically. Look her up it’s a picture of her and Tina and Tina is doing Ann and Ike’s daughter hair
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Tina also shot Randy Jackson in the ass
Bro what really made people hate Ike Turner was that R@pe scene that was in the movie.
Tina Turner admitted that that never happened, but she still allowed that to go in the movie.
Damn shame
But people in the comments crying about Joe brown talking down on Tina but Tina didn’t care about that man lookin like a r@pist tho…
Tina signed away her rights and had no control what was in the movie.
But white racism.has to present the black man as a animal.
@@Igboman87 even worse
@@Igboman87she still could have spoken on it and made a statement
Only problem is, i don't like speaking about the dead, who are no longer able to defend themselves.
Facts
If One person tells me something, I usually take it with a grain of salt. When dozens of people tell me the same thing, even when those people don't know each other, the story is usually true. Tina was a monster with lipstick. Ike was no saint, but Tina is no angel.
If One person tells me something, I usually take it with a grain of salt. When dozens of people tell me the same thing, even when those people don't know each other, the story is usually true. Tina was a monster with lipstick. Ike was no saint, but Tina is no angel.
Right on.
Judge Joe Brown spoke these same words before she died and she never came forward to defend herself...
I've heard this from a few people, not just Judge Joe. But you know how it is whenever a woman claims she was this, that, or the third... HER antics are glossed over.
Yep
Yep! This western society is a culture where we do not hold women accountable for nothing. It's double worse in the black community.
Yes sir! This western society is one where women are victims only and aren't held accountable for anything. It's two fold in the bwack communitah!
The movie and Ike's appearance on a TV show, where he admitted to slapping Tina Turner, caused the public to view him as an abuser
@@dawapfactor5882tf that gotta do with her ish being ignored bc of her gender by bm hating people like you goofy ?
That’s crazy. They shitted on Ike bad.
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Mike Epps Gone have a feild day with this 🤣😂🤣😂
Is this why Tina became a big time solo artists, she sacrificed Ike for a Hollywood contract.
Her husband did the same thing and her sons
Hollywood is Pure Evil
There are two sides to every story. I’m sure Tina did some foul things, but the folks here acting like Ike was an angel are deceiving themselves. They were both flawed like we all are. Only thing I can tell you for sure about them is they were both masters of their crafts, and I’m a fan of the music created by both of them.
Facts, even if she was big a-hole, it doesn't take away from her musical accomplishments. Celebrities shouldn't be your role models anyway. Just enjoy their work.
whos garbonzo
@@cardan2525 Huh?
It's actually the opposite. Y'all want Ike to be a monster because it fits a narrative. If you hit someone and they beat your ahh woman or man, so be it. Combat or self defense isn't abuse.
@@rickyv7757who said anything about taking away anyone's accomplishments? Stop trying to make this something that it's not.
She even talked about Ike’s verbal and physical abuse and her eldest son who Ike adopted even admitted to witnessed and hearing his mom being beaten. Judge brown you didn’t live in his household so you don’t know what happened behind closed doors. While Ike was counseling you and your buddies he went home snort cocaine and beat his wife in front of their kids . Are you gonna call her oldest son a liar? And for all you trolls who dont agree with me don’t waste your breath or time messaging me unless you agree.
That movie Tina did was basically an attack on Ike and the black man as whole and we fell for it😢
Maybe so...
All biopics be bull$hit lies or over exaggerated bull$hit..hell I heard The Temptations biopic was a lot of lies people who knew David Ruffin say he wasn’t this arrogant cocky a$$hole they made him look like in the movie..a lot of times directors make up things to make the story more interesting…
Thank you
It makes sense...it was a payback movie damn
He admitted to beating her in interviews. It's on UA-cam
Man the only narrative that was painted about Ike was he was abusive and no good. They never said anything positive about this man even in death.
I love Judge Joe Brown. He is the grandpa every one needs. Tells the best stories, straight shooter, and not afraid to tell you how it is!
It is amazing how people allow the emotions that song and messaging via TV and music clouds their perception of people. Then when someone speaks the truth that destroys that perception, they attack the messenger instead of adjusting their already-idolatrous view on the person they're speaking about.
Happens a ton with people in music, because music goes to people's core/soul.
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FACTS 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Your absolutely correct, most of our view of reality are shaped by STORIES, and those stories are often tainted by politics, economics, occult practices, memory lapses, etc.
You've hit the nail on the head. It takes a lot to separate the musician from the real person.
Whom most of the time turns out to be rather nasty and the exact opposite of the attributes related to the music they sing.
@@user-qb6fq5xr6b comment of the year 🔥
Ike Turner had 10 other wife’s and none of them said he abused them…Tina lied yea they fought but it was mutual a lot of times she hit him first, so to make him the face of domestic violence was wrong…
She lied to sell that movie
Yes they did
You’re lying. Many of his women said he abused them. His last wife said he slapped the shit outta her multiple times.
Yes they did. Sdfu and stop makingf him seem innocent. Simp for another man
lol but they literally did … I can guarantee you haven’t looked into this bc you don’t want the truth idiot
Judge Joe Brown is a G! He's real one!
God bless
This man knows every body in world.
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The Judge 🧑⚖️ not throwing Ike under the table a lot of women start fights with men because they know if you do choose to beat them up. They’re called a police or get a family member involved. Don’t hit them, but they can hit you.
This man tells straight facts and its hard to handle for many the TRUTH HURTS!!
@@slabbusterrtr7690 👍👍👍👍
Liars and dusty men know each other very well!
He never once said Ike wasn’t a woman beater he just Ike friend he bias Ike wasn’t no saint
Yet reading most of these comments you would think every single word the man utters is to be believed.
How would he know?
He simply shared his experience with both individuals. He said Ike was nice and kind, and Tina was not.
@@DialloMoore503I've heard of these details before, Mr. Ike didn't beat Ms. Tina, Ms.Tina beat Mr. Ike.
He didn't say that he's just saying that tina turner wasn't know meek scared women like they did in the movie the relationship was like chrisean rock and blue face a little..
@@shackzillayall believed a movie that turned out to be mostly false. Lastly, Joe Brown is not the first person who spoke on this
Just about everything in that movie was BS.🤷♂️
Facts when they lied and acted like she had her first baby with Ike instead of telling the truth that she had a baby with Ike homeboy before she even messed with Ike nobody should have took that movie seriously…
Hell yeah!👍🏽
Well it was a movie not a documentary😂
@trent_king The point I was making is Tina Turner is a liar and she was never abused a day in her life🤷♂️
Ike admitted on Arsenio Hall show that he slapped her 🙄
Joe brown is ridiculous. Ike never even claimed that Tina hit her. She was the abused one for years and many people who saw the have spoken on behalf of Tina years ago.
That Tina turner movie was one of the first me too movement movies. Attack against black men making 304 ‘s look like victims
Ur disrespectful. Yuck 🤮
And what's worse is it was films like "Whats Love Gotta Do" that drove a huge wedge between BM and BW in the 90s that is still felt to this day. The BM has always been a target with his image dragged in the mud.
Seriously??? The movie is what did it??? Black men never cheated, had multiple side pieces and “secret” side families that most people knew about, was DLing it, and passing diseases to their women from other black men’s peens, and had never beat their women before the 90’s or when this movie came out??? Thank you for clearing that up for me because I never could pinpoint when it was exactly that black women began becoming distrustful of black men. 🤔
Yep, it was between The Color Purple in 85' and Waiting to Exhale in 95'
Black women happily wrote books made movies and songs denigrating the image of black men. And they made millions and millions of dollars from it.
That’s why they say money is the root of all evil.
@@tonyalbert6940 bm are delulu 😂 i pity them
@@mufasa1794gullible BW who stay getting tricked by the serpent
I tend to believe Judge Joe Brown is telling the truth myself!
Hollywood got in the feminist movement and made Ike looking like a villain
They wanted him to be a 🧚♂️ facts
They certainly didn’t have to do much. He did that all himself!
The movie just portrayed who & what he was
An abusive drug addict who died broke!
@@Sponsorship4u2you just conveniently disengaged from what the judge just said huh? Women like you are reason women feel it’s okay to hit men with no reaction….shame on you
@@Sponsorship4u2 you can't believe everything you see on TV.
@@Sponsorship4u2
If that’s true, why was the film so unbalanced with its portrayal and storytelling?
Why not show Tina’s flaws as well?
I have heard for years that Tina was not nice at all. Especially to black people.
@cosmyquesoul8995 I didn’t say she wasn’t nice to everyone. She was very hostile to black men. Even guys like Arsenio Hall for no reason
@cosmyquesoul8995 I should have said black men in the first place. Multiple black male celebrities describe her as rude.
@alansjf33 You heard the truth and if you think some of the others aren't as bad, try asking him about that fake Diana Ross.
@@alansjf33Arsenio did not say she was hostile to him. He said her representatives put him out of a dressing room. How do any of us know that Tina knew about this.
@@feliciaclark9533 he literally said during the Ike Turner interview and several other times that Tina was not pleasant . He had met her in person.
That was deep. I didn't know judge Brown was from LA. I use to know Ike also. In 1985 my friend took me to meet Ike at his apartment in North Hollywood, he lived in my friend's father's building. Ike wanted to learn how to use the new Linn Drum machine he bought. Same kind of drum machine in "When Doves Cry" by Prince. I knew how to use it. I was not yet a producer, I was still a kid. I taught him to program beats for 3 hours for 4 days. Years later I become a producer and had a studio on Hollywood Blvd., a friend back then who is now a big podcaster named Zoe brought Ike to my studio. I think Kool Moe Dee introduced me to Zoe btw. I reminded Ike of when I taught him the Linn Drum and he remembered me. He was a nice guy. Funny, a little crazy like an uncle would be at a barbecue. I couldn't see the devil the media always try to make him out to be. He would come to my studio every once a while and hang out. Joe brown knows what he's talking about
Tina wasn’t no joke anyway after her marriage with Ike. Just asked Randy Jackson who she shot at.
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Tina lived in a bad neighborhood after her divorce from Ike she said. She feared for her life that's why she carried. I never heard about Randy Jackson.
She sent bullets to Randy Jackson???? Ionkno dawg
So Tina was friends with Randy’s then girlfriend Bernadette Leonard. She ran to Tina’s house after Randy ran after her and banged on Tina’s door. Bernadette is married to Suga Ray Leonard.
Wasnt it over Bernadette who Randy was dating at the time.. well Randy made the mistake of entering Tina's house without permission 😂
Judge Joe Brown always on point
A few years ago, I watched a guitar based channel interview with Keith Richards (of the Rolling Stones)(he doesn't do interviews often & im a fan). Him & the host were playing acoustic guitars & somehow Ike & Tina (who toured with the Stones) came up in the conversation. He mentioned how they would fight in the dressing room & Ike would come out looking worse than Tina. Here's my analysis: They were bad for each other & some great music came out of it. She was one of the greatest of her time, but I can also see how she used the book & movie to capitalize on her agenda/music career to antagonize Ike. It ruined his life & eventually led him to od in '07. Thank God for research.
Yea another thang crazy in the movie Ike character was way bigger than Tina so it looked even worst seeing her get beat but in real life Ike was a small dude and him and Tina was damn near the same size..
@@tonysnow2224 never thought of that, but you're absolutely right. Great obversation
Well..Hollywood is set up to portray Black Men as either Violent, Funny or Gay. And Black Dramas have all three characters written in.Black Women are portrayed as Ghetto, Abusive Mothers or Needing a Zaddy. I hate that good Black Writers are buried in the industry and one feel good movies comes out every few years.
The representation for straight black men has gotten better.
Not really.
@@Kingdl351 Well, name me some shows that aren't based on those stereotypes so I can watch them. I'm tired of watching the Olympics. Lol
@judaz3000 unless you are watching a documentary or a video about learning a noble craft or artistry, there's nothing out there. It's by design.
Our white brothers and sisters are also being stereotyped by the same machine. It's just in a different way.
As a young adult, I was all into the 90's transformed Tina Turner.. I went to her concert and at the time it was awesome! As a stray sheep, I had no idea my mind was being steered by media. The kool aid is tasty till you taste the cyanide.
As someone from St Louis allow me to say This is a Fact, that movie told half truth, it made Ike look like a villain an Tina a victim. Which was not true
I knew the family cause i lived just around the corner. I used to play with Ron and was over at their house alot. Mrs Turner was always nice. I grew up knowing her. Elementary school to college. When she got real famous she moved to Palos Verde gated community.
Wow! That’s exciting you actually knew Tina and family. What were your observations about Craig. You know he committed suicide at the age of 59. Tina said he was always a sad child. What were your observations.
@@feliciaclark9533 Hello. Iknew nothing of Craig. Didnt know he existed. The boys never mentioned him. The whole time i knew them, i never saw pops either. If he was only there at night i wouldnt see him but i know he started living in his studio around 69 or so. He would slap around his singing girls Ron would tell me. I knew their dog, the big great dane Onyx. Biggest dog you ever saw.
@@peterzinya1 thanks for replying. How was Tina towards you. Was she nice.
@@feliciaclark9533 Yeah, always nice. In the kitchen most of the time i saw her. She even loaned me Onyx one day. I thought she was gonna say no but she just looked at me like, what next. But i figured she wanted to let Onyx get out of the house. She just went into the back yard and came back with Onyx on a leash and gave him to me.
An @$$ kicking doesn't usually just fall from the sky for no reason
Facts 😂
"Ain't Nobody Above A @$$ Whoopin" . - Chris Rock
He said he used to slap her because she looked depressed😅😅😅
Nothing but the truth
@@robjr6983He was also on crack at that time, that’s when he spiraled
As a woman, this is very interesting to hear. He sounds credible in his recounts of some of the incidents involving Tina. We always have to remember that there are two sides to every story. And that the media will always do whatever they can to tarnish a black man’s legacy.
The movie was clearly a lie , in that movie they made it look like Ike Turner took her virginity and then she got pregnant and had his kid but in real life she had a baby by Ike homeboy before he even started messing with her..that shows how Hollywood went out they way to lie just to give her this fake goodie two shoes image..
If that was the case then why wait until Tina is dead. No one spoke up. I don’t believe Ike was an angel. Black women don’t have the highest femicide rate among all races of women for no reason.
I hate when people make statements against people who are no longer available to give their side
Do to her past, she didn't want anything to do with her identity and tried to be as European as possible
You mean due to her hatred of black society
true dat
Because her family betrayed her, and used left unprotected, didn't you see the movie 🍿 😢
@@Itsaid22 Didn't you see all the comments saying the movie was full of lies?
Europeans are not black
The movie made it looks like Ike was abusive.. All this time we were fooled 😢
He was abusive. He admitted to all.hos abusive for yeats and never denied it. Joe briwn is rambling on like a fool.
This man has never been around Tina Turner.
Rocket 88 is the 1st Rock n Roll song ever, R.I.P IKe Turner. They tried to destroy his legacy
Perfect example of there are 3 sides to every story, "There are 3 sides to every story"
"DAYUM!" He put some stress on that damn. 🤣🤣🤣
Tina shot Michael's little brother,Randy Jackson.😅
Please tell me this is a joke.
@@williamwalsh1533It’s true, Randy was dating Tina’s sons ex gf & she was still friends w/ Tina & she shot him because Randy was abusing the gf.
@@jacluv7862Wow. That's crazy. Can't believe I never heard about this!
😂😂😂 ppl don't know the industry always been a fool
Whaaaat she was nuts
We need a whole biopic
The true one... would never be released.
I don’t even watch that propaganda movie anymore. Especially since I learned the truth
Good to know .. just heard “what’s live got to do with it “ at the gym and this changes my perspective .. poor Ike .. I know my sisters will go to their graves still believing Ike was a monster and Tina an angel victim
5:22 she hit that man with a rake 😂😂😂😂
Pretty sure he says dayum afterwards 😂😂😂
But what did he hit her with, the day before the "rake attack"
I remember watching an interview with Keith Richards and he said that Tina was more than capable of handling herself around Ike and she definitely gave as well as she got. Ike and Tina opened for the Stones during their US tour of 69.
Facts plus that movie put in are heads that Ike was wayyy bigger than Tina because Lawrence was way bigger than Angela but in real life Tina and Ike was the same size Ike was tiny as hell..
I will never talk bad about Tina Turner~ Especially after she is no longer living🕊️🕯️I believe Ike was a Monster and that is that❗
Keep living in your head foo
But Ike is dead too, and you just talked “bad’ about him 🤔
And all of this time everyone including myself defended Tina but now everything is coming to light.
You defended her because you were brainwashed by the media.
All they have to do is write a book or make a movie and you will most likely believe everything that you read or see.
I call it the ‘Color Purple’ effect. This book which was later turned into a movie was also written by a black woman who was also a divestor
You should be skeptical anytime information comes from a black woman, and it is negative towards black men.
Ask him if there are any black women he can say something nice about
😂😂😂😂 exactly!
right on