A Casual Conversation About The Ruckman Reference Bible

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  • @JohnMiles117
    @JohnMiles117  16 днів тому +6

    I was definitely under the weather when I made this one, I hope my sniffles weren't too distracting 😂. Once again I want to reiterate that I LOVE the KJV! I hope that my thoughts on this Bible are understood to be only against the man and his notes and not against the KJV.

    • @jeffcarlson3269
      @jeffcarlson3269 День тому

      @JohnMiles117
      that King James Bible companion was actually compiled by David W. Daniels.. the Now CEO of Chick tract publishing.... He is a KJV Onlyist... and I truly admire everything he states regarding the King James...
      I ordered that companion several years ago off Amazon.. and glued it to the back few pages of one of my favorite KJV bibles. where periodically if I come across a word NOT included in it,. I hand write the word with the definition into the booklet myself...
      Ruckman's a HOOT..!.. I have most of his bible commentaries as well as his bible.. BUT... he does Not believe in Calvinism.. nor dispensationalism.. so.. I disagree with him on those two points..
      I will Not debate your negativity regarding your stance on KJV Onlyism.. Only to state.. that every thing YOU can claim is wrong or inaccurate regarding that stance.. IS WRONG...
      the KJV (while Not perfect).. STILL by far..... contains far less errors in it than ANY translation that YOU can come up with..
      BTW... I ordered MY copy of the Ruckman Reference Bible.. about 3 years ago from the Ba[tist Bible Book Store.. My copy was NOT free.. since I wanted one in Genuine Leather... I wanted a copy that would outlast me.. that I could pass down to my children and to my children's children...

    • @jeffcarlson3269
      @jeffcarlson3269 День тому

      @JohnMiles117
      AND look at it this way... sooner or later when Ruckman's writings get BANNED... due to their offensive content.. because the government has a way of censoring things like that sooner or later.. to keep us all in our protective bubbles.... you will be able to sell your copy on E-bay.. someday for 5000.00 + even though it is a 19.95 paperback copy... since.. it will be a collector's item..
      I have already seen OTHER out of print bibles which I own.. and purchased for a few dollars.. already selling in the Thousands of dollars.. well at least that is what some people are HOPING to get for these...

    • @jeffcarlson3269
      @jeffcarlson3269 День тому

      @JohnMiles117
      Hey... J. Finis Dake.. would be a good.. person for you to attack next...
      Dake had a lot of crazy beliefs as well..

  • @rorywilson912
    @rorywilson912 15 днів тому +3

    You made it very entertaining (I knew you would) and I learned new things. I have a close friend who grew up as a "Ruckmanite" and he described many of the same things you discussed. Thanks for your honesty and doing a great job with a challenging topic.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@rorywilson912 thanks! It was a challenge for sure.

  • @Matthew-307
    @Matthew-307 13 днів тому +2

    I’m a KJV guy, I use other translations to get a better understanding, but when it comes to which Bible I trust as the word of God, KJV all day. I’m also a classical dispensationalist like yourself. And I agree; while Ruckman was incredibly smart and had a lot of revelation about the Bible, his way of speaking turned a lot of people off from him, and kept people from being able to learn from him because they just couldn’t deal with his attitude. Unfortunate. But I do look forward to meeting him in heaven and thanking him for what he’s done for the gospel.
    Good video, my brother. You should consider doing a video on the Scofield Reference Bible, that would be cool.
    God bless.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  13 днів тому

      @@Matthew-307 I would love to do that. My personal Bible is actually a Scofield 😂

  • @theupsidedownminddickens7242
    @theupsidedownminddickens7242 15 днів тому +2

    I'm glad you got it so I never have to. Never heard of it til now. Thank you. God bless.

  • @JacksonGorilla
    @JacksonGorilla 11 днів тому +1

    Hey man. Another good video. I have said before I tend to lean to KJV primarily. Ruckmans Reference Bible was always one that surfaced when looking into KJV bibles. I ended up buying one, and tbh I like it a lot. Truth be told, it's not because it's his notes and extras in the bible but more so for the look and feel 😂. I haven't really gotten a racist feel from Ruckman at all, and I am part of a couple minority groups. It could be because I am not sensitive like most and have thicker skin. Things that many see as racist I dont see as racist but eh. Him like Hoffman (common mans, and I also think you should review it) are not perfect. No one is, except for God. But looking at preachers in general, you may not always agree, but there is still a lot that can be learned. I haven't read a lot of his notes or appendices myself as of yet, but I use the Ruckman Reference pretty much every day. First and foremost, God and His Word will always come first before a mans notes.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  11 днів тому +1

      @@JacksonGorilla I want to thank you! You worded this note in the most loving and gracious way, even though you disagree with me you did it in such a Godly way! It is so rare to find this amount of Grace on the Internet these days. There is nothing wrong with using the KJV, I myself am a majority text guy so that puts the KJV as one of my top translations. I agree that there are a lot of good notes in the Ruckman, it might be that you do indeed have thicker skin then most, that's a good thing I think 😉. Regarding the common man's reference Bible, I'd love to do a review of it sometime, the only problem is I don't own one, so it might be a while before I get around to doing one. Thank you again for this comment, God bless!

  • @procop4063
    @procop4063 15 днів тому +3

    I very much appreciate your information on bible translations. Thank you. I have leaned good solid information.

  • @aldeureaux5184
    @aldeureaux5184 14 днів тому +1

    Good job! I hadn’t heard of the Ruckman Bible until now. I heard him in person several times. He was a good preacher. He would sometimes draw as he preached. He was a good artist as well. I can’t remember him coming across arrogant or anything like some of his writings. He did come across confident but also a little humble at times if you can believe it.
    When I first got in Church as a teenager, we didn’t have the plethora of Bibles we have today, only the Living paraphrase, Good News and the 1952 RSV (we didn’t know it had just been updated in 1971 in which they did a good job, although we probably wouldn’t have trusted the National Council of Churches anyway), so we were KJV only. We felt we had no choice. Fortunately, in the Providence of God, I was led out of that. The 1977 NASB was the start of my leaving KJV Onlyism, not the KJV, which I love. I had to admit that it wasn’t in the language of the people which is the reason we have a Bible in English in the first place.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  14 днів тому +1

      @@aldeureaux5184 well said! That's so interesting you saw him in person? I had the same experience listening to him, I was surprised at how normal he was. Definitely didn't come across as the guy that wrote this Bible

  • @XordonMonsanto
    @XordonMonsanto 8 днів тому +1

    You gotta be a fellow Pacific Northwesterner. Greetings from Portland.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  8 днів тому +1

      @@XordonMonsanto 😂 nailed it! I'm in Seattle.

  • @dougbaker2755
    @dougbaker2755 15 днів тому +5

    Thank you for being candid. There really should be no place for bigots and those who are bombastic in the Church. His brand of KJV-onlyism was even worse than most. And you're right: He really didn't know a lot of what he was talking about regarding textual criticism issues. Moreover, he taught a weird view of the soul, body, & spirit and how each one related to the members of the Trinity.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +1

      @@dougbaker2755 thanks doug! Yeah I'll admit this one was a hard one to get through

    • @TylerJames-yu5hf
      @TylerJames-yu5hf 15 днів тому +1

      The teaching he has done on the body spirit and soul and how it relates to the Father, Son and spirit is not strange at all…
      We are made in God’s image, what is part of God’s imagine? 3 parts. How many parts do we have? 3.
      Labeling ruckmans body of work as a waste of time and him as a wolf is so crazy. Ruckman led so many to Christ and the way you in a round about way slander this man is crazy.

  • @crossnote3590
    @crossnote3590 15 днів тому +3

    Nice video, can you do a review (if you haven't already), on the Common Man's Reference Bible?

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  14 днів тому +2

      @@crossnote3590 I haven't yet, but I'm thinking about doing it

  • @procop4063
    @procop4063 11 днів тому +1

    I agree with you completely on this whole issue kjv. It creates divisions in churches and f families and breaks up friends. Plus there is no excuse for racist comments. About people.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  11 днів тому

      @@procop4063 well said! Thank you!

  • @DanielSteel1999
    @DanielSteel1999 15 днів тому +5

    I love the KJV. I lt was hard to disassociate the bad KJV Onlyists from the KJV for a while, but I eventually did, and I love it even more now!

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +2

      @@DanielSteel1999 I totally understand. It's too bad that they ruin such a beautiful Bible for so many people. It took me a bit to get back into it after listening to them for awhile

  • @FrankHerb
    @FrankHerb 15 днів тому +5

    I'm always amused (not really) when people try to make these racial references with relation to the mark of Cain (Mormons once held this belief also). None of Cains line survived the flood. Noah was a son of Seth. We will never know what that mark was for sure, until we all meet in heaven. As soon as you hear or read someone proposing something like that, an idiot light should come on in your mind. Not biblical by any stretch.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      I couldn't agree more! Very well said

    • @wallyhendricks409
      @wallyhendricks409 15 днів тому +1

      I agree with your comments. I have the same reference Bible and have listened to many Ruckman recordings. I have had many long discussions with others regarding Ruckman. For me it comes down to this "you will know them by their fruits" with this instruction in mind, hate seems to permeate throughout this particular book. Hate has no place in our faith even if it is wrapped in intelligence. The complete abscence of loving admonition from Ruckman in this book sais all we need to know.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +1

      @@wallyhendricks409 well said!

  • @hrothgarrannulfr1972
    @hrothgarrannulfr1972 15 днів тому +2

    Very cool timing. Was just talking with someone promoting Ruckman's KJV Onlyism, recently.
    Question: Does Ruckman discuss the difference in the King James' Revelation 1.8 where it says "Lord God" in the NASB, ESV, and NIV, but just says "Lord" in the KJV? Just wondering if Ruckman noted whether or not he was aware.
    Asking because Jonathan Burris recently did an excellent deept dive into this verse showing that the first English Bible had "Lord God" but that it was changed to "Lord" in subsequent English Bibles afterwards until modern translations added it back in.
    Thanks.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +1

      @@hrothgarrannulfr1972 great question! I'll check as soon as I get home and let you know!

  • @charlesmcbeath5624
    @charlesmcbeath5624 15 днів тому +2

    Cool video, looking forward to checking out some of your other stuff.
    God bless

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +1

      @@charlesmcbeath5624 thank you so much!

  • @Wubss
    @Wubss 15 днів тому +5

    Thank you for reading it so we dont have to! 😂

  • @Panhandlepiper
    @Panhandlepiper 4 години тому

    I’ve totally gotten away from “Study” and “Reference” Bibles. There’s enough information on the internet to satisfy any questions that I may have.

  • @puritanpioneer1646
    @puritanpioneer1646 15 днів тому +2

    Good video. Great review.
    I really appreciate your clarity in the very beginning of where you stand, clarity is my favorite characteristic/virtue of someone, if you are clear and speak with clarity, I have respect for you.
    What you said is very true about people of the past. There are many Reformed people who I love, that did things and said things that were just bad.
    Andy Stanley and his whole "unhitching" is very confusing, check out the debate he did with Jeff Durbin. I wouldn't say Andy is a Marcionite given what he said, but still very confusing.
    You mentioend in a old video about when you do a critique you do a sandwhich. Going, good, bad, good. What I saw here was a 7 decker sandwich, you keep switching from the good and the bad over and over, which I thought was funny, but made the review very fair.
    Good to know you arent a hyper-disby.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@puritanpioneer1646 😂well said! I really appreciate this comment. Triple decker sandwich lol

  • @bryanstark324
    @bryanstark324 15 днів тому +1

    I'm really curious about the ruckman reference bible. How can i get one for free or even reasonable cost? I'd pay shipping plus $10 just to see the notes. But I tried to find it for a reasonable cost and honestly can't afford it. Can you tell me what to search for to find it for the free price?

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +1

      @@bryanstark324 go to this link
      www.nowtheendbegins.com/product/gospel-starter-pack/

  • @Sgomes-is4or
    @Sgomes-is4or 15 днів тому +2

    Great video. He had many weird beliefs outside of most ifb. Henry morris study bible is great and kjv with a reason why he chose the translation in the begining of the bible.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +1

      @@Sgomes-is4or the Henry Morris Study bible is fantastic!

  • @jtalks5
    @jtalks5 15 днів тому +2

    I love the kjv. I am kjvo. For the most part. I dont however fall into the same camp that others do where they claim the kjv corrects the greek. But i have used the kjv for a long time and use most of the study helps available today to go along with that. I also have a couple of ruckman bibles. I like them, i dont necessarily agree with all the stuff in it but some of the stuff im ok with. I also have a couple of scofields i dont agree with everything in that either. But i enjoy the layouts and most of the book introductions.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +1

      @@jtalks5 there is nothing wrong with that! Praise God we can have a Bible in our language! I agree with you about both of those Bibles. My personal Bible is actually a Scofield funny enough and I agree with you that it has some notes I don't agree with. Eat the meat, spit out the sticks

  • @procop4063
    @procop4063 15 днів тому +2

    Yes I was told Pensacola Univesity still uses KJV only at theirt4 Institution.

  • @thescarletandgrey2505
    @thescarletandgrey2505 15 днів тому +1

    Wasn’t Ruckman in the “hyper-dispensationalism” camp? Ok I’ll watch the rest of your video now. Excellent so far!

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@thescarletandgrey2505 yes he was

  • @bobbymichaels2
    @bobbymichaels2 15 днів тому +1

    Where can I find that freebie?

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@bobbymichaels2 here www.nowtheendbegins.com/product/gospel-starter-pack/

  • @HawkMage42
    @HawkMage42 15 днів тому +1

    Great video! Where did you get a free copy?

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@HawkMage42 I feel bad doing it, if you can you should buy one, but this is the link
      www.nowtheendbegins.com/product/gospel-starter-pack/

  • @puritanpioneer1646
    @puritanpioneer1646 15 днів тому +1

    Gonna watch this right after I finish this debate between Gaffin and Gentry on eschatology

  • @ThePaPappy
    @ThePaPappy 15 днів тому +2

    So if true, how did the "curse of Cain" and "the giants" survive the world wide flood ? 👀 Sounds like Noah had a blended family😊. You're already in the woods, bury it.

  • @daibhidh
    @daibhidh 14 днів тому

    you said your not going to post a link to where you got the bible but you also just said THEY sent it out and didn't actually tell us at all where you got it from

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  14 днів тому

      @@daibhidh several people in the comments section have asked for a link and I've already posted it there, search through the comments and you'll find one

  • @austenlockhart2982
    @austenlockhart2982 15 днів тому +2

    ( bit of a long one ). As someone who uses the KJV. ( as well as NASB ) it saddens me that many people think this is what the fruit of the KJV is. The OLNYISM is so strong now it’s actually ( at least what I see ) the predominant group that uses the KJV.
    A champion translation of over 400 years. Used by puritans and many good godly teachers over the century’s is now kind of a tool in a way. For people to mislead, spread hate and abuse.
    I’m not saying that to all KJV onlyists. But there is a danger in “onlyism” in general unless we are talking about Christ haha.
    I go to a church that uses ESV. and I strongly encourage my friends to use the KJV to help them grow and see some of the things that I believe the ESV is lacking. But I’m overjoyed that they are reading there Bible. And I’m glad I have a pastor that loves and cares for his sheep.
    All this to say I actually think study bibles should be used CAREFULLY! and people need to come alongside and help other Christian’s and teach them hermeneutics and proper methods of study! Sorry for the rant.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +1

      @@austenlockhart2982 fantastic comment! I couldn't agree with you more! It really saddens me that such a beautiful elegant and powerful translation has developed a bad reputation amongst modern readers simply because of a few bad eggs. I couldn't agree more that we should still keep and use the KJV

  • @glstka5710
    @glstka5710 13 днів тому

    7:54 I don't know how much you know about Bob Jones University, but from everything I've heard about BJU it is no surprise that they would produce a very bigoted racist person.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  13 днів тому

      @@glstka5710 I don't know a ton, but I do know that Mark Ward graduated from there and he says it's a great school, and Mark Ward is about as unbigoted a guy as I can think of.

    • @glstka5710
      @glstka5710 12 днів тому +1

      @@JohnMiles117 People can overcome their educational environment. I've enjoyed many of Mark Ward's videos, he's one of the good guys.

  • @jtalks5
    @jtalks5 15 днів тому +1

    I've watched quite a few of his sermons, and for the most part, I enjoy them. Usually, his artwork kind of goes along with what he's preaching about. He has said quite a few times that when people come to hear him speak in person or have met with him personally they are shocked that he wasnt as sharp and crass in person as he was on paper. People have to remember that the notes in any study bible are written by man. Which are basically opinion. Personally, I think the notes in the nabre Catholic are absolutely trash. Along with the new oxford study bible. BUT. I still own them and think they offer a unique perspective. I probably should have just waited till the end of your video instead of posting twice lol.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@jtalks5 you are right that notes in Bibles are simply man's opinions. I own those study editions as well and agree that although I disagree with them they are still useful tools.

  • @maxboucher86
    @maxboucher86 15 днів тому +1

    ive had an nwt before and i didnt want to give it away and didnt want to use it or to burn it... Kind of stuck in a predicament.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@maxboucher86 between a rock and a hard place

  • @thedrumssayyes
    @thedrumssayyes 15 днів тому +1

    Talk about controversy, do a review of the Dakes Annotated Reference Bible. Great notes, but the guy had some weird history.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +1

      @@thedrumssayyes dude, don't tempt me. The funny thing is I just got rid of my copy of dakes 😂

  • @procop4063
    @procop4063 15 днів тому +2

    Thank you I use the NIV and NKJV . There are some have actually told me that they are not the word of God. Note Bob Jones Univertsity uses the ESV for bible courses now.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@procop4063 that's awesome brother! I actually didn't know that about Bob Jones

    • @joelmcleay
      @joelmcleay 14 днів тому +1

      super interesting! I'm a New Zealander from the other side of the world, but as a child I was home-schooled using the Bob Jones University Press curriculum - so it's cool for me when I stumble upon content regarding BJU.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  14 днів тому

      @joelmcleay that's awesome dude!

    • @joelmcleay
      @joelmcleay 14 днів тому

      @@JohnMiles117 I also really liked what you said about intelligence vs. wisdom ik this video. I got straight A grades in biblical studies and theology at Otago University, arguably NZ's most reputable academic institution, this year. But I wouldn't consider myself wise by any means - a cursory glance at many of my life choices, particularly in adolescence and young adulthood, would indeed prove me somewhat of a fool!

  • @joeangular
    @joeangular 15 днів тому

    thank you for the video. please, as an honest person, think about how jesus spoke to a certain group. I am sure you do not think that there was something wrong about that, right? just food for thought.

  • @jtalks5
    @jtalks5 15 днів тому +1

    Personally, and this is just my opinion. I don't think ruckman was big R racist. Did he use language that most would disagree with absolutely. Racism used to mean that you would discriminate against someone on the basis of their skin color or an ethnic back ground. While pointing out that stereotypically some jews have big noses is by no means becoming of a pastor he likely wouldn't have considered that racist. In fact in one of the foot notes he makes the accusation that modern translations are racist on the idea that some of the wording they use when it comes to physical descriptions, they used with the intent to prevent inter racial marrying. whereas the kjv would allow for that. Again, I don't subscribe to all the stuff he says. The appendix in the back coincides with the notes throughout the bible. He mentions many many times refer to such and such appendix at the bottom of such and such page. Personally, I don't believe he was qualified to be a pastor based on the number of times he was divorced. I think he knew the content of the kjv bible better than anyone of his time. Steven Anderson is another that is a very well versed kjv pastor. But it is overshadowed by a lot of garbage and hatred that comes out of his mouth. I would not by any means recommend that bible to any one new to the faith or new to kjv. It would be a small number of people that I would recommend that to. Now the scofield is a different story. But which version would depend on the biblical education level. Because the 1917 notes are different than the later versions, especially the scofield 3. I always recommend to anyone that desides that the kjv is what they want to start with the Defined kjv bible. Most of the archaic words are defined right there in the text. Those that don't want kjv, I usually will point them to the nasb95. Tho there are some renderings I raise an eyebrow at, it's still very good. Also, back to the rrf, all of the illustrations were hand drawn by him. He also sells those separately in a charts and diagrams book. That doesn't include his commentary. Although from my comments it probably comes off that I am a ruckman fan boy. I'm not I do as a hobby collect bibles, and study the different variations in notes translation styles and thoughts. Ok now I'm done. No more comments promise lol.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому +1

      @@jtalks5 I love these btw, no hate from me. I totally get what you are saying, I agree that Ruckman was not qualified to be a pastor. I think you raised an interesting point, intelligence doesn't equal qualified. Ruckman and Anderson are and we're very intelligent men who knew and know their Bibles front to back, yet ultimately it's how they apply that knowledge. In both cases I think that use language that is unbecoming of a pastor in the church. Great comment 👍

  • @procop4063
    @procop4063 15 днів тому

    My perception and opinion only is that Andy Stanly want to detach from the Old Testenmment is to condone same sex marriage to accommodate the movement of our times. That is my opinion.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@procop4063 hmmmmm, I'll definitely have to look into that. I hope it's not the case

  • @Purvis-dw4qf
    @Purvis-dw4qf 15 днів тому

    You are a lot kinder to Ruckman than me.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@Purvis-dw4qf how so?

    • @Purvis-dw4qf
      @Purvis-dw4qf 15 днів тому

      @@JohnMiles117 Ruckman was an unbelieving heritic

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@Purvis-dw4qf ohhh, I understand what you mean 😂

  • @TylerJames-yu5hf
    @TylerJames-yu5hf 15 днів тому

    The fact that you think Calvin was beneficial to the faith but call ruckman a wolf is so wild… Calvin did so much damage to the faith and has led to so many in bondage to a false religion more and more to this day. Calvinism is a false gospel, actually there is no gospel in it.
    Calvin was definitely a wolf.

    • @JohnMiles117
      @JohnMiles117  15 днів тому

      @@TylerJames-yu5hf I never said that I loved Calvin or was a Calvinist (I am not), however I did say that you have to look at the body of their work. Both Calvin and Ruckman did good things, but what is the lasting fruit that they bore?

    • @TylerJames-yu5hf
      @TylerJames-yu5hf 15 днів тому

      @ the lasting fruit that comes from Calvin and Augustine before him is evil and not the one true gospel.
      Ruckman at the very least preached the one true gospel and spoke out against heretical views that have been held such as that of Calvin…
      I don’t agree with many things ruckman believed, such as his stance on abortion etc but he taught the simple true gospel and led many to Christ and because of his devotion to it many after him are doing the same. I would say that is good fruit.
      Every single one of us will get things wrong and many things we will never know or understand completely this side of heaven. What are the important things to get right? I think ruckman got the important things right. I can’t say the same about Calvin…

    • @TylerJames-yu5hf
      @TylerJames-yu5hf 15 днів тому

      @ I would also say the lasting fruit of Augustine and Calvin are very bad. Those that follow those men are very screwed up in their teachings and understanding of God’s word and the gospel. They perpetuate calvinism a horrible twisting of scripture that leads people to hell and divides the church.

  • @procop4063
    @procop4063 15 днів тому +1

    My perception and opinion only is that Andy Stanly want to detach from the Old Testenmment is to condone same sex marriage to accommodate the movement of our times. That is my opinion.