Israelis: What do you think of countries that are against settlements?
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If living in a settlement is an economic question, it's actually worse than if it were an ideological question. If your country doesn't work for its people, building in a place that is ambiguous by your standards and foreign by international law just makes you a person without morals instead of corrupted morals.
I see lots of comments that the first guy made the best argument for why settlements are not an obstacle to peace ("there were no settlements in West Bank prior to '67 and there was still was no peace"). I don't see how anyone can buy that argument. If peace cannot be established under current conditions, that in no way justifies further settlement on land that would be claimed by Palestinians (within 67 borders). It clearly makes any future peace agreement even more difficult if not impossible to achieve. Furthermore, the logic behind settlement building is not "oh, you don't want peace? so we'll just keep building"; it's fait accompli --- French for, "oh golly gee, look at the map, there are settlements here, and here, and here; sorry bruh, what's done is done, we can't undo what's already been built, as that would mean displacing our own citizens; guess you're just going to have to accept to a smaller piece of the land".
I think he said it all. The land itself is holy for the Jews and cultivating it is one of the biggest mitzvot, so why can't they buy the land and live as palestinian-jews in the West bank as we have a lot of communities of arab-israelis in Israel?
Only a moron or someone looking for confirmation bias, would agree with the first argument. Interesting how people could have a capital of 3,000 years, even tho they haven't been there for the past 2,500 years
@@patricks4971because you want a Jewish majority Israel AND presence in Palestine. So I’ll return the favor back and ask why not give them their right(not me saying it but literally every other country on earth) to their own state AND their right of return for the millions of refugees out there, if anything at least the second proposition is actually legal🤷🏽♂️
First guy really have a world-view waped to fit his narrative. The obstacle the settlements present is not that they wouldn't be allowed to be incorporated by the State of Palestine but that Israel and the settlements themselves would vehemently oppose it, thus making a lasting peace much more difficult to achieve. If the situation was reversed, with expanding arab settlements inside Israel living under Palestinian law I highly doubt he'd see it the same way.
There are territories in Israel where Jews leave and Arabs move in to (mostly for economic reason) but nonetheless no one says it’s an obstacle to anything.
2 million Arabs live in Israel
The first guy is an exceptional speaker I don't agree with him in all the points, but he's good.
The only reason you could possibly disagree with him is if your mind cannot be changed by facts and logic.
Politically correctness required from the guy to add this "I don't agree in all points".
Otherwise, what can't you agree?
@@gershonsavitsky6620 because he knows he's wrong but he keep hide with fakes
Yeah really complicated. Some one is taking someone's else's houses. Seems quite simple to me.
I was thinking the same ,for example if I go to Germany and settle there and built house after 20,30 years a German came up and claim my property ,claiming it was my ancestors land ,that would ok for me ,I would fight back.
This Israeli jews are crazy, they gone crazy,
@@Malodaiofficial That's quite a generalization... Only a very small portion of Israeli Jews are settlers.
How many Israelis living in these settlements live in "someone else's house"? Define your characterization.
@@Malodaiofficial That's not at all what is happening. Jews also lived there for centuries and have proof with bill of sale of the properties that they own. There were many pogroms against Jews in that region in 1800s and 1900s and a lot had to flee their homes, but they still had proof that they owned properties there. In 1948, Jordan Annexed the West Bank, and a lot of Jews who lived there for centuries had to flee their homes. No one is claiming anyone property without proper proof that they legally own the property. It's just lies.
Nothing is that simple.
I love the sign in the background at 3:49 - "We do not have wifi, talk to each other".
That's a horrible sign!
That first guy is an exceptional speaker. I don't agree with everything he says, but he is very good at getting his point across, making a reasoned argument, and understanding where he, at least, is coming from. I commend him.
really i cant bilive what you saying man.its ok to occupy arabuc house you mean.but i bet you a 10000000million that if it happens to you,you wont commend him.you insane what psycopat.with no sence of empahty.
He's not making a reasoned argument, he talks like a 6 year old, the only reason why he is getting his point across is because Corey is jewish, and he's bias.
@@surle9148 his making a very good argument, and if you'd watch the videos of Palestinians in this channel you'd see he's right. According to Palestinians only two of the three can exist simultaneously: Israel, Palestinians and peace. Pick two. Naturally as a pro Palestinian you'd choose Palestinians and peace. While an Israeli would choose Israel and peace. The occupation ensures the continuation of Israel and peace, as the Gaza situation demonstrates, as well as the pre 67 situation, and pre 48 situations.
MrWorshipMe I wouldn’t call it a “very good argument” considering he said Israel was created and “Arabs stayed” when we know that around 800,000 Arabs were displaced from their lands upon the creation of the state. He claimed that Zionism was Jews simply wanting to settle and cultivate land, clearly it’s desire to “settle land” which is already settled that lead to this conflict in the first place
not really, he sounded dumb af. his argument "was there peace before the settlements? no, then it's fine for us to eat up Palestinian lands" is the same as saying "were we in good terms before I stole your property? we weren't so stfu"
Can the USA have cities within Canada?
Puerto Rico?
Mo Tama... of course, you never heard of Toronto before?
Popeye ok can the UK have settlement within France?
Mo Tama Can Australia have settlements in Antarctica?? Your questions are intellectually insulting...
West Bank is NOT a state.It is no ones land
1st man , total respect
He is full of shit
are you kidding? His logic is of a 7 year old school boy. Complete idiot.
@@pranav5183 The 7 year old's logic is to claim those settlements are the obstacle to peace. Or to blame all the world's terrorist attacks on their existence. As you can observe on other videos in this channel, the obstacle to peace are Palestinians or the existence of Israel. Peace, Israel and Palestinians - only two of these can exist simultaneously.
F that dude.. gtfo off their land.. live in Israel or go back to Brooklyn
he sounded dumb af. his argument "was there peace before the settlements? no, then it's fine for us to eat up Palestinian lands" is the same as saying "were we in good terms before I stole your property? we weren't so stfu"
the cyclist at 7:52 vs the cyclist at 8:14
Does the word "violent" hold the same connotations in Hebrew than it does in English? Because as much as you may disagree/agree with boycotting as a political action or form of speech, I fail to see how it's violent. It's literally done as an alternative to violent protest.
It's not violence in the classical sense. Was the blockade of the Straits of Tiran violence? It started a war.
@@vovac8915
It actually was an act of war.
I agree with what others are responding to you but I would also add that if you boycott an American company you're simply making them lose money, which is an effective way to pass a message, but if you successfully boycott israel you might cause Israelis getting killed due to increased difficulties in managing security of Israeli citizens due to the various and multifaceted added problems.
And by doing so you're not passing any message other than letting Israelis close themselves to your opinions.
People can do whatever they like, it's Jewish land no matter what.
first guy said all important:-)
The first guy: with flat lies, semi-truths or twisted facts represents all that is wrong in Israel.
The last lady: with her perfect english, she is most likely an American or a Canadian. That is a perfect example of a criminal irony of Zionism. Coming from either of the two countries (both very prosperous for Jewish people), she has more rights in the Palestine than people who lived there for centuries or millennia. All based on some convenient myths.
Yet, "it is complicated.....". IT IS NOT!
Damned straight. The last Karen has no moral compass.
we are saints compere with the rest off the world
@@nirprizant4228 If telling yourself that helps you to sleep at night then I can understand the choice to be self-delusional. Israel is an international pariah for good reason.
Nothing the man said was untrue, it was all the truth, the Arabs attacked from the 1880s, in 1921, 1929, 1936, 1937, 1939 etc all before Israel was a state, all before any settlements.
The first guy is conveniently ignoring how in the decade leading up to the Hebron Massacre, Arabs were pushed off the land that the Jewish National Fund bought, deprived of the chance to even work for or rent the land from the new owners because of the JNF restrictions put on that land (that only Jews could live or work on it), driven by desperation to live in slums in and near the cities, where they would then be paid less than Jewish workers when per rules in place by the British Mandate authority even if they could find work, and then witness militant Zionists, who were recent immigrants to the country, repeatedly parading in the cities near holy sites exclaiming how they were going to take over the land for themselves. This treatment of Arabs there by the Zionists during that period was so morally abhorent that Jacob Israël de Haan, a Dutch-Jewish writer, turned away from Zionism and was assassinated by militant Zionist in 1924 shortly before he was to return to the Netherlands to report to the royal family there how the Zionists were mistreating the Arabs in Palestine.
Long comment justifying the hebron massacre of jews....
dogbert52 My point is that it is convenient for this guy to ignore prior injustices perpetrated on the Arabs by the original Zionists to put all of the blame for the ongoing crisis on the Palestinian Arabs. Sad.
NOT ONE Arab was pushed off any land before 1947,48 and the war. Buying the land legally is not pushing anyone off land. The early Jewish leaders were alware that the Bedouins and fellahins had Jewish ancestry, they tried to not buy any land worked by the fellahins. There are whole documents on these facts.
@@shainazion4073 Wrong!!! When the land was bought, the Arabs who had been renting the land from the previous owners were not allowed to continue renting the land because they weren’t Jewish even when the land was left vacant and without tenants or residents for years.
NOR were they compensated for any improvements they had made to land over the generations, such as the cultivated orchards and buildings.
These forced removals results in upwards of 100,000 displaced Arabs moving to cities to see work as day laborers or factory workers, where they suffered from further discrimination due to the British Mandate’s government limiting Arab workers wages to 3/4ths of what Jewish workers received doing the same work.
Never heard such reasoning before
That first dude was a fucking legend. He's my new hero.
First old guy reminds me of my sabba 😹
@@falconlemo2030 if you really believe in God, you wouldn’t wish any harm or bad on anybody even those who are evil or wrong
The Israel/Palestine conflict requires statism. It's a fight for political control of the region. People claiming rule based on ancestry and mythology yet no individual has any claim past their own yard
Donald That's a valid concern. At the same time, there is archaeological and genealogical evidence of the Jews having a monopoly of violence (the definition of a state) over the Holy Land before any other population. That makes Israel's claim to the land legitimate in my eyes.
Donald I don't understan why they use the Bible as an argument, since accodrding to Israelis , they are the most secular nation in the Middle East. Oh wait, that's only when it's convenient for their political agenda.
Israelis insist upon a jewish state and are expanding their borders illegally. If you really wanted to solve the problem, I think Jordan should annex what is now Israel and Palestine, call it Palestine, call it free, give all citizens in the new territory equal rights. Call it a day.
But many of the elite jews are supremacists, and some follow this ideology that nonjews are here to serve the jews. Your typical everyday jew is not a bad person, but we follow these leaders. The palestinian struggle is misguided, miscommunicated and is without the right leadership unfortunately.
The Federal Reserve and the IRS are my masters and I am distrusting of this form of servitude.
what?
israel have proves of their land was jewish long before arabs came to this land.
@@dansonoflightning2277 well this area used to be controlled by Egypt almost 4500 ago and whenever riots happened military interventions happened like what Ramsiss || and thutmose did so by your logic this shouldn't be israel it should be Egypt can you now see how silly this claim is? the problem isn't who was there first it's what's happening right now and settlements is cruel simply they evacuate people from their homes to build others for Israelis. anyways have a nice day.
Absolutely delusional. Like it's actually insane.
I don't understand why palestinian children need protection (by israeli soldiers) from the settlers when they go to school. The settlers clearly wants the palestinians to leave so why should the palestinians welcome the settlers?
One Israel give the Palestinians full citizenship
The Arabs of 48 stayed cuz their great great great great great grandfathers were born there where yours born in where the hell you came from probably Europe or Russia
You can tell by the surnames were these 'Palestinians' were born. And most come from Egypt, Syria and Jordan. Some are Bosnian.
@@carm7518 If a guy who's Kurdish or Bosnian marries a muslim woman of jewish ethnicity,their children would have the last name el kurd or el bushnak even though they are ethnically jews
The first guy gave the best answer I've ever heard more people should use this answer.
he was a liar
as best as it is when religious people reject the responsibility of religion on events like the crusades by claiming things didn't happen, or the US paints their foreign policy as fight for democracy.
He says what he was thought since he was a child, as well as you agree because it is what you got taught since before you even had an age to comprehend it.
so abolishing Palestinian homes is OK? ya that makes sense. i will illegally take over your country, destroy your house, build mine over it. "coz it doesnt stop peace". The amount of logical fallacies this guy committed is hillarious XD
if you want Israel capital to be Jerusalem of the state of palestine, I want new York to be the capital for the Hasmite kingdom of Jordan. You guyz, ur arguments are ridiculous
First guy was 80% to 70% right, cause YES settlements is an obstacle for two state solution since non of jewish will replace his blue ID with the green one.'
To the first man who said there was no settlements before 67, yes there were but on a smaller scale. That’s why the war started, but the Arabs were defeated in the first war and so the settlements flourished at a time when the Arabs were at their weakest.
No there weren't settlements at that time
A nation starts a war, losing in it, in retaliation the area is occupied for security reasons, the losing side doesn't recognize it's lost and halts their evolvement compared to their neighbors...that's all
That first dude was a fucking legend. Absolutely nailed every single point. Completely dismantled the Arab position as bottomfeeding bullshit that it is. It's always just another excuse. THEY JUST HATE JEWS ITS THAT SIMPLE.
@@yrm1594 yes, there were
@@captain2ahab Where?
Someone is taking Someone house in name religion and history back to 2000, how is that question complicated 🤔, I mean this guy's need a special treatment ,they all sound healthy and look nice but their brain 🧠😒😒
If someone live in anywhere else in USA and tomorrow a native American came up and claim land because 400 years ago this land was their ancestors ,is that ok for that man ??
Is there anyone's from USA who could answer me this question??
You know there have always been Jews in the Land of Israel, didnt you?
www.eretzyisroel.org/~samuel/presence.html
Your example actually proof the opposite of your own claim.
I mean Israelies are not living in ex Palestinian houses, but built their own new cities. as Americans are not living in tipys of native Americans.
So claims of Palestinians are pathetic exactly claim of native Americans to pass them "eastern coast". They do can ask for sovereignty on territories they are actually populating now but they don't want it.
No houses were taken at all, until the war where 5 Arab armies attacked the one day old country, Israel.
That first dude brings up some excellent points. However, I think it's important to also recall that pre 1948, Jewish residents of the British Mandate of Palestine were quite violent in their zionism. This led to numerous bloody conflicts with the British authorities and with the non-Jewish countrymen of those who considered themselves to already be _Israeli._
So, 'Yes.' He's right that in '29 there was a massacre of Jews, but was this massacre because the non-Jews were unreasonably murderous? Or was it because of tensions that already existed that were exacerbated by the violence of the zionist movement? I can't say for certain. But what I CAN say for certain is that the violent chapters of zionism have fostered resentment and violence in turn.
I get your point but violent actions were mainly directed towards British colonialists, in order to let them pack their bags and leave.
Actions that actually served their purpose.
There was never a massacre of Arabs or expropriation of arab properties. All the land in which jews lived on was bought from the Arabs.
*And even if I'm sure there have been cases of hostility you cannot justify the massacre of dozens of random jews because of that.*
This was the point in which zionists understood the mindset and behavior of the arbas.
A mindset and behavior that are still precisely the same as 100 years ago.
We tried an infinite series of combinations of proposals, agreements, arrangements etc.
After 100 years of doing all this we also got more jaded and more in the mindset of having to deal with the modern middle eastern mentality.
Now the ratio of Arab vs Israeli casualties are somewhat out of balance (even though I don't understand how them being balanced is any better) but it's only due to the military presence in Judea and Samaria, due to the checkpoints, due to the blockade on Gaza and due to a constant investment both economic and in human effort to prevent the biggest number of tragedies.
In Israel there are 16 special forces units (which is already unusual) and 11 of those are specialized in countering terrorism (which is absolutely unique to israel) each a d every one of them work in their own specialty aspect.
So, if they can call themselves victims is only because we take care of every Israeli in an outstanding way.
If we didn't do any of this we would get killed by the thousands every single month and the world would cry fake tears for the Jewish people.
We took almost 100 years to get to this point, but while in the past we did everything we could to try to de-escalate the situation, they kept promising to kill us all for 100 years.
And they also tried to maintain that promise, so it's not just random words.
The motto is "never again", and we'll do our best to keep it that way.
Even if it means having the international community of white knights entertain themselves with this conflict and use it as an excuse to play the role of "the IG activist".
We are used to dumb people misunderstanding us and treating us like the ultimate enemy.
At least this time we are doing something for our people.
@@magnumopus1628
I have never, will never and could never "justify" the massacre of ANY number of Jews. And I'm quite misanthropic!
@@magnumopus1628
_"Now the ratio of Arab vs Israeli casualties are somewhat out of balance"_
I think the reason for this is twofold. The Israelis ALWAYS attacked with far greater numbers and were always dedicated to the fight. I was lucky enough to interview some Egyptian soldiers stationed in Sinai in the late 80s. While none of them were fond of Jews, none particularly wanted to kill any, either. Most soldiers of the Egyptian military hated the Egyptian military FAR more than they hated any Jews. I had both officers and enlisted men of the Egyptian military say the same thing to me on a number of occasions - "I'd be better off serving in the Israeli army than I am here!"
And so, I've been convinced by my experiences travelling through the region, that the reason Israeli soldiers- of all military branches- consistently outperform Egypt and the arabs is because during all the 'recent' conflict, the Egyptians and the arabs didn't want to be there. During those conflicts, the Jews didn't want the arabs/ Egyptians to be there. And so everyone got what they wanted.
But to speak more plainly, the reason was that the Israeli soldiers were dedicated to fighting and winning, while their opponents weren't dedicated to anything except for trying to get back home, perhaps.
@@magnumopus1628
_"The motto is "never again", and we'll do our best to keep it that way"_
I believe the "Never again" chant was about the Holocaust. It's funny that you should bring this up, after the comment I just wrote (Moshe Dayan's biography). Perhaps the meaning was "Never again shall we be victims of these atrocities," because it certainly doesn't mean "Never again shall we allow such atrocities to be perpetrated, if we can stop it!" It doesn't mean that because- as I said previously- it seems that Israel is perfectly happy to commit atrocities and crimes against humanity (possibly war crimes too, I've never really checked), as long as they aren't being committed _against_ Israel.
@@magnumopus1628
_"international community of white knights"_
I have no idea who or what this is a reference to.
edit - I also don't know what I.G. activist means.
First guy has a point.
What was his point 😆? He went around the question. He asked him why does he do illegal settlements and he just claims it's not a hindering peace. But bulldozing houses and stealing them I would argue is the basis of the crimes
Even before 1967 they wanted to destroy Israel. I remember.
Semsem Eini well ofcourse they did... You took their country.
Goriljohn Cohen And when was that country created?
Goriljohn Cohen
Mr Cohen, are you a self hating jew?
Islam is not 2000 years old....
Even the creator of the term Palestinians (PLO charter, 1964), Yasser Ararafat, was born in Cairo.
As mentioned, in 1964, the PLO categorized who is Palestinian and who is not, that seems odd of people who exist for 2000 years.
Are you telling me they lived for 1946 years without self definition?
Alon Alon there are the Ishmaelites which r like ancient Muslim
hoda ahmad Which muslims claim to be one of their forefathers.
Muhammad, the founder of Islam came 1400 years ago, meaning Muslims are 1400 years old.
Funny how that woman and man characterised a boycotted as violence. Here's what happened when a boycott was declared against the Nazis. This is from Wikipedia...
'The Nazis and some outside Germany portrayed the boycott as an act of aggression, with the British newspaper the Daily Expressusing the headline: "Judea Declares War on Germany" on March 24, 1933.[12] Nazi officials denounced the protests as slanders against the Nazis perpetrated by "Jews of German origin", '
First guy is wrong, the kibbutz were a settlement and disturbed local demographics. Not defending bad behavior but just so you know..
It looks like many people think that Israel just randomly went into the west bank one day in 1967.
I don't believe in expelling innocent people from their homes but I don't understand what's wrong with building on a territory that was taken in a defensive war.
People like the guy at 3:45 need to let go of historical claims and start accepting present realities.
My family is from East Prussia which belonged to Germany until 73 years ago. It is historically German land, I even have the deeds to my family's farms there. But it belongs to Poland now, and the Polish people living there today have the right to the land.
And because Poland and Germany are sensible, we made peace and people from both countries can move freely and live where they want. Israelis and Palestinians should do the same.
@@KatGlos Hopefully in 50-100 years when the wounds aren't fresh and new generations will grow up such thing could be an option. For now it isn't.
@@KatGlos”sensible” means one side agrees to losing to another side in their victory over them.
That is all that means.
What about the Jews land in middle Easter countries like Saudi,Iraq,Yemen and other countries?
They all were expelled.
Only few were left very few
Umm what about it?? What Jewish land are you even talking about there’s never been such thing.
@@raejarad9439 he is being sarcastic. But if you look at the maps from ancient times. Especially the land that we given to Abraham, a lot of modern day Jordan can also be claimed as Jewish land.
this channel is like a propaganda channel for israel btw
Was this question asked at a settlement?
That first guy is pitching woo in his sweetest voice.
The first man speaks facts
People fall in for demagogy.
In my eyes, there is no difference between Israelis or Palestinians no one is better then the other.
The world is a weird place
@@magnanimousknight1162 that's what happens when two people groups are convinced to death that this is their home, and don't recognize the others claims. There will be conflict, and when both sides commit atrocities on each other, they don't tend have favorable views of the other side.
From Wikipedia:
"Palestine (region)
Palestine (Arabic: فلسطين Filasṭīn, Falasṭīn, Filisṭīn; Greek: Παλαιστίνη, Palaistinē; Latin: Palaestina; Hebrew: פלשתינה Palestina) is a geographic region in Western Asia. It is usually considered to include the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, Israel, and in some definitions, some parts of western Jordan. The name was used by ancient, *GREEK* writers, and it was later used for the *ROMAN* province Syria Palaestina, the *BYZANTINE* Palaestina Prima, and the Islamic provincial district of Jund Filastin. The region comprises most of the territory claimed for the biblical regions known as the *LAND OF ISRAEL* (Hebrew: ארץ־ישראל Eretz-Yisra'el), the Holy Land or *PROMISED LAND*. Historically, it has been known as the southern portion of wider regional designations such as Canaan, Syria, ash-Sham, and the Levant.
Situated at a strategic location between Egypt, Syria and Arabia, and the birthplace of *JUDAISM* and Christianity, the region has a long and tumultuous history as a crossroads for religion, culture, commerce, and politics. *The region has been controlled by numerous peoples, including*: Ancient Egyptians, Canaanites, *ISRAELITES* and Judeans, Assyrians, Babylonians, Achaemenids, ancient Greeks, *THE JEWISH HASMONEAN KINGDOM*, Romans, Parthians, Sasanians, Byzantines, the Arab Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimidcaliphates, Crusaders, Ayyubids, Mamluks, Mongols, Ottomans, the British, *AND MODERN* Israelis, Jordanians, Egyptians and Palestinians."
So first, to begin with, "Palestine" is now, and always has been, a *REGION*. It was never a country, or a nation, or a state. It has always been a *REGION*.
Secondly, as you could clearly read: "*The region comprises most of the territory claimed for the biblical regions known as the LAND OF ISRAEL*"
"*the Holy Land* or *PROMISED LAND*"
Thirdly: "*The region has been controlled by numerous peoples, including*: Ancient Egyptians, Canaanites, *ISRAELITES* and Judeans, Assyrians, Babylonians, Achaemenids, ancient Greeks, *THE JEWISH HASMONEAN KINGDOM*, Romans, Parthians, Sasanians, Byzantines, the Arab Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid and Fatimidcaliphates, Crusaders, Ayyubids, Mamluks, Mongols, Ottomans, the British, *AND MODERN* Israelis, Jordanians, Egyptians and Palestinians."
The very same *REGION* called "Palestine" has never been controlled by "Palestinians" before modern times, yet it has been controlled by Israelites and the Jewish Hasmonean kingdom. After all Israel is a Jewish country.
Arab (and Jewish as well by the way) "Palestinians" may have lived in the Palestine region for many years before Israel was declared, but they never controlled (owned) the region.
Before Israel was finally declared, the last to control the land were the British, and NOT the "Palestinians".
"Mandatory Palestine[1] (Arabic: فلسطين Filasṭīn; Hebrew: פָּלֶשְׂתִּינָה (א"י) Pālēśtīnā (EY), where "EY" indicates "Eretz Yisrael", Land of Israel) was a geopolitical entity under British administration, carved out of OttomanSouthern Syria after World War I. British civil administration in Palestine operated from 1920 until 1948"
There you have it, British till 1948. The same year Israel was born.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
"In 1947, the United Nations adopted a Partition Plan for Palestine recommending the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states and an internationalized Jerusalem.[23]The plan was *accepted by the Jewish Agency for Palestine*, and *rejected by Arab leaders*"
Even though it is the Jewish people's religious and *HISTORICAL* right to own the land, the United Nations offered the Arabs their own part of it. And the Jews were 100% fine with the plan. But the Arabs said F**K THAT, we want all of it!! So f**k the UN, and f**k the Jews who bought the land legally and want to live here! Either they get the hell out of here, or we'll kill them!!!
So don't any of you tell me, that Israel are the bad guys.
And by the way, the only times Israel shoots Gaza with missiles are when Gaza shoots missiles at Israel FIRST. They shoot at Gaza to show them they won't take an attack, laying down. And the only reason many people die from missiles in Gaza, and in Israel they don't, is because Israel invented the "Iron Dome", which protects the country from missiles being fired at it.
And the bulls**t rumors about Israeli soldiers killing innocent "Palestinian" women and children are complete lies. If you can prove me wrong with at least one video of it, please do. I beg you.
You can find hundreds of actual real films of the holocaust crimes and scenery.
Real innocent people, millions of them, being killed, for no damn good reason.
Show me ONE, just ONE video of an Israeli soldier killing any (not necessarily "Palestinian" or arab) innocent child, woman, or man.
Except the most recent video of Elor Azaria who killed an unarmed attacker (who wasn't innocent, but didn't legally deserve to be eliminated since he no longer opposed a threat)
In which, by the way, Elor was sent to jail, to pay for he's crime. He killed a man he shouldn't have, even though that man was a terrorist.
Show me a country, more moral than that...
Have a good day.
Cool Mariam Israel did not *imprison a 16 year old. They've detained her. 16 year old Ahed Tamimi had been detained for assaulting a soldier who was trying to keep her home SAFE during an overnight raid on the place.
You can read all about that sweet innocent child in Wikipedia, instead of brainwashing Islamic media.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahed_Tamimi
It is a shame that some people teach their children it is okay to hit other people and throw stones at them, in order to resolve issues. Those are children!! Minors!!
And as you can see here in this video: ua-cam.com/video/wmckjMb_jzs/v-deo.html
The two Israeli soldiers are very restrained, as they try very hard to ignore Ahed and her family members.
And about the Jewish settler - if you are referring to the Duma arson attack - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duma_arson_attack
It does state in the page:
"On January 3, 2016, 21 year old Jewish settler, Amiram Ben-Uliel, was indicted (charged) for the murder, and along with a Jewish minor, for participation in the planning the murder."
Now, even though he has been charged with murder, I think he still hasn't been convicted, since I couldn't find any website stating so. (both in English and Hebrew)
But I HAVE found one website in Hebrew with a report on him, refusing to share the same cell (in jail) with a secular Jew, and thus being sent to solitary confinement
for seven days.
m.ynet.co.il/Articles/4932356
Anyways, that report was posted on 08/03/2017
And there's a sentence there: "מאז שנעצר מוחזק בן אוליאל בכלא השרון."
Which, if you translate means: "Since his arrest, Ben Uliel has been held in Hasharon Prison."
So, he wasn't set free, as you say. He is sitting deep in prison, and be sure, he WILL be convicted, and pay for what he did.
There will always be extremists. From both sides of the conflict.
Whether they are Jewish, Muslim, Israeli or Palestinian.
And you're welcome to believe what you wish.
But I can tell you without hesitation Israel is a very fair country. All of it's citizens have equal rights. Jews, Arabs, Christians, Ethiopians, Druze, gay people, you name it!
They can all vote, work as whatever they wish, including government, serve in the army, be on reality shows, buy land wherever they wish and as much as they wish, as long as it's possible.
Religion doesn't matter here!
But Israel will always be nationalistically Jewish. (NOT religious)
Because it's important to remember why we fought for this land, and remember the people who suffered and sacrificed their lives so we'd live here today.
No propaganda will make me think otherwise!!
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Here's one what?
Two people crossing a field of battle? Tough luck. If I was a civilian during a war in my area, I would get the hell out, as soon as possible. I'm not saying it's their fault cause I wasn't there. But it sure as hell wasn't the Israelis fault. Most likely not the Palestinians fault either, although can't be sure. It's already widely known that Palestinian organizations use their civilians as human shields, so they could brag about their deaths on the media.
You, sir, are very heavily misinformed. Simply typing in "IDF/Israeli soldier crime/beating up Palestinian children" or something along those lines on UA-cam will come up with more than enough results of video evidence that they do not, in fact, treat Palestinians the same way as Jewish people of their own country. These are war crimes. In plain sight. The only way you wouldn't see this is if your govt censored these webpages, to keep you in a bubble of propaganda that fits their political agenda.
A country 'more moral' than Israel???
I know a fair few - basically the vast, vast, VAST majority of other countries around the globe. As much as I respect Israeli people, human rights organizations and Jewish communities who strive for the best, for peace and for equal rights for both sides of the equation,the Israeli governments have only been digging a deeper grave for the whole country over the past few decades (especially in recent times).
When a govt self-proclaims to have "the most moral army in the world" and to be "the only democracy in the middle East", or to be "the best nation on the planet" (e.g. fascist states like North Korea), then it's most likely because they're using propaganda to brainwash their own people in order to hide the reality of facts.
Palestinian doesn't mean Muslim people, Palestinian are people of Muslim, jew and Christian who live in region called Palestine, do no misinterpreted the term .
Palestinian never claimed it mean only to Muslims ,all jews are not settler and all Israeli settler are colonizers
What a comment
The first man is perfect,he explains it very well and is specific about it.....I see it the same way
Read Shlomo Sand
he was a liar
Romeo Naranjo how was he a liar?
They stole the land what else is there say .israel is what appartite looks like.
Romeo Naranjo the apharthied isn't real though. Ask any Palestinian if they think they live a bad life, if they're honest they'll tell you that they aren't. If you disagree then come do your own research. Take a trip to the West bank, ask some people, observe, and then do the same thing in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon or maybe even Syria if you want to make my point even stronger. Come, I dare you.
Am somehow suddenly stuck in a loop of these videos and the first gentleman made more sense then most interviewees combined!
That dude was a fucking legend. Man knows his history. He knows reality. He knows they dont want peace. Everything is just another excuse to fuel the conflict.
Without the US you would not be here today...
Really, can you live on less than 1% of your salary? I'd like to see that. The US aid is credits for military spending that gets paid to US companies as salaries and taxes, while Israel works as Research & Development for the military items that Israel uses in real life situations.
The US aid is less than 1% of Israel's GDP. So, when you are ready to give up 99% od your salary every year, then we'll see how Israel does without the less than 1% of the GDP as aid.
@@shainazion4073 Blah blah blah. It is purely optional for the majority of Americans. Time to cut it now, and then we cut Egypt, etc. for all of the "pay for peace" BS where the US pays for you (Israel).
@@viadharmawheel What's optional? Can you live on 1% of your salary? That is what you were saying. That Israel only exists because of The US, put up, or shut up,
@@shainazion4073 1%? I said such a thing? My point is to cut foreign expenses from the point of view of the USA.
"Jesrusalem was always our capital" someone from eastern europe says this lol
How do you know he's from erope?
Because he’s whiteסמי גידו
The samaritans are also white so? also many arabs also are white so?
daniel albo he's definitely not a native of this land he's perhaps mixed. Sometimes it's hard to accept but these are fact we're in 2018 and native don't look like this.
I'm Mizrahi and my mother has blonde hair. Just because someone is fair skinned does not mean they're European. Plenty of Syrians, Maronites, Berbers, Assyrians, etc are "white". People in the US/Europe think everyone from this part of the world is Arab and that's not true.
Realistically, other than Germany (out of guilt) and France (with a large community of Jews who moved there from North Africa), what countries in Europe voluntarily go out of their way to support Israel? UK, Spain, Italy, Russia, Poland… they don’t, the only reason they say they do is because, God forbid, they don’t want to upset some people in Uncle Sam’s family. They wouldn’t gain anything by supporting it, either. For what? What responsibility do they have to Israel and its people?
Shalom Aleichem they supported israel until the occupation, and they even gave you a pass for a good while after the six day war
interestingyoutubechannel why should those countries show solidarity to Israel? Do Israelis, for example, show solidarity, repentance and remorse for the officials of Jewish descent who succeeded to exterminate Ukrainians during the *Holodomor* through hunger, like *Lazar Kaganovich* , *Genrikh Yagoda* (born Enokh Gershevich Ieguda), *Mandel Khatayevich* , *Zinoviy Katznelson* , *Lev Mironov* (born Kagan), *Yakov Kaminsky* and *Israel Ivanovsky* (born Hibshman)?
Slovenia: We will diplomatically protect Israel (we have no big army), but your settlements make different classes of living for Israel citizens and non-Citizens (Palestinians), which we don't support.
Shalom Aleichem Put it this way, I don't know of any (literally ANY) Jew who wants or supports extermination of Ukrainians or of any other European people. And I'm from "the land of the Jews" remember. So yeh, sure, why not. I'm sure both our diplomats / politicians & our people would be happy to make stronger good relations with more Europeans. Solidarity in common security against terrorism, shared resources & shared ideas for people's well being (economy, tech, medicine), etc etc., these are the things that two parties benefit from when deciding to reach out between nations. That's how I see it anyway.
Elektrotehnik That's fine, having solidarity between our nations doesn't mean you have to agree with everything our government does, and we don't have to agree with everything your government does. In fact, most citizens within (either) country itself would likely have criticism on their own government. One thing I'll say though on the issue of Palestinians - the ones who live in Israel as citizens are part of us. In terms of the west bank, I'd suggest to look into the real reasons why things are not progressing. Explore what's going on in their own PA politics. It's not all Israel's fault you know.
you don`t steal other peoples land. what so hard to understand.
It was always Israelis' land, Case closed :)
So the Arabs have to go back to Saudi Arabia.
I disagree with the first guy saying “when it’s convenient” because the fact of the matter is that we (the US) give Israel more than they give us and we need them less than they need us. Israel has been a hindrance to American interest in the Middle East.
So, he shouldn’t act like Israel is giving so much that the US & Europe need them
Not True, all the credits for military spending goes right back to the US as salaries and taxes. Israel worksas Research & Development for the US companies in real life situations. Israel spends more of its money on US imports than most countries. Many Israelis are dual v
Citizens with US citizenship, and the money goes right back to the US, what does giving money to the Philippines or the Palestinians do for the US?
@@shainazion4073 I’ve since revised my opinion knowing that Israel is a battleground for us to test technology and they have to share it with us. I still think that Israel has disproportionate influence in US politics and watching our congress bring out the red carpet for Netanyahu and going against Obama was one of the shameful episodes in our history.
@@mrniceguy7168 Thats because the Jews are masters at public relations except when it comes to defending Israel. Then they let all this garbage be said without correction.
"When it's convenient "
What more does this guy want from America?
America needs something from Israel too, otherwise, there would be no alliance.
First guy makes some good points respect to him
Let's see how many Jews Jordan welcomes to the East Bank. We will work together to see it is a significant number.
The first man is a legend!
Highly manipulative
@@cinnaminson0653 how is he manipulative? For telling the truth?
Because he does demagogy ?
Personally I am boycotting the PA for their refusal to come up with a deal and their inherent racism. So I can't really object to those who would prefer to boycott Israel whatever their reasons.
doesn't really take much effort does it? since the PA produces nothing...
oh yea, you can boycot terrorism and lies :)
First guy makes a good point tho : it’s hard to swallow the Palestinian demand for racial purity in their state.
Wow, only the woman at 5:07 is answering the question in a human way.
Never treat unreasonable people reasonably. “Turn the other cheek”. Not “turn the other cheek into perpetuity”.
The first man captured the essence & articulated very well. Thank you Sir!
God bless Israel.
God did not blessed Israeli Jun 16, 2005 - “MOSES dragged us for 40 years through the desert to bring us to the one place in the Middle East where there was no oil”, quipped Golda Meir ... also Israeli , they dig their own Grave have 400 nuclear bomb and hid from US and do not allow US visit their nuclear site, at the end will suffer for it,
It's no surprise that a mother, stroking the head of her newborn baby, understands the notion of peacebuilding between people.
This first guy speaks a lot of truth and sense!
The opposite is true. He talks BS because he is a demagogue.
@@selcukcilek555 well everything he said is true despite what your views are..
@@jamiegrieve5875 As you don't get it. Read again, what he is asked. He is NOT asked about a possible peace process between the parties. He is asked of what he thinks WHY there are western countries NOT supporting Israel's settlement policies.
He just tries to meddle his own agenda into that question, hence demagogy.
@@selcukcilek555 ok then I have maybe got it wrong and I apologise if I have.. I just wish they could find a way to make peace between them and move forward to a better place where they can live together in their home land and stop the violence and the killing of each other
people who support settlements usually have the same argument
was there peace before settlement ? no ? so it must be ok
the legality of the settlements is a different issue, which i believe "Ferdinand Daratenas" above has done a great job explaining.
the argument you are referring to is a response to the claim that "the settlements are the obstacle to peace" which we hear a lot these days.
whoever claims this clearly has no knowledge about the history of the conflict.
lets say one side starts eating other side babies , that obviously would be a big issue and fuel the conflict greatly .. .can we argue there was no peace before baby eating so it has nothing to do with the conflict ? this logic is just flawed
we dont live in the 60's anymore , today issues are different and settlements is a very big one
i the would say the biggest obstacle to peace and lets be honest israel would never give that land back
you got it wrong, i didn't say that the settlements "have nothing to do with the conflict", rather that they are not the cause of it.
it is my belief and many others', that if you want to solve a problem you have to get down to its' cause. therefore, if israel would clear up the settlements tommorow there would still not be peace. so you may say that it is one of the issues but not THE issue.
the reason why there is no peace, is because the PA with both of it's leading parties Hamas and Fatah, do not recognize israel's right to exist under any border, 67 lines or other.
in english they speak about the settlements (the so called "occupation of 1967") but in arabic they say "the occupation of 1948" (the year israel was established), because it's much more palatable to western ears.
take it from them:
ua-cam.com/video/3ViFr3oIM4M/v-deo.html
you said "obstacle to peace" and i've responded that , nobody thinks settlements are root cuz of the conflict there was no settlements back when all started
about the rest of your rant (no offence) i think israel is an actual nation and functioning democracy they work to improve interest of their nations while arabs are ruled by fat kings and corrupt military dictators who only care about maintaining their own power .
thats pretty much why there is no peace .... one side has all the cards and other side doesn't even want to play
talking about the land and right to exist is just pointless here is how it plays every time :
->they dont recognize israel right to exist
# Israelis took our land thats why we wont recognize them
->but Torah said this land belongs to jews and our ancestors were living here thousand of years ago
#it doesn't says that in our book and native Americans should have US back with that logic
......... JUST FKING POINTLESS
im not arguing with u about the land this is the trap with no end
but i tell you how i see this , arabs who fled the war and lost their lands are still alive , Europeans came to israel and claim those land just becuz they happen to be jewish and jews owned land there at some point in the history ... i dont get that logic
at this point arab world is not at war against israel they are not even lobbying against israel , only arab country hostile to israel is syrai rest really dont care and are indifferent
"there was no Zionism"
"Well there was Zionism"
The first guy is delusional.
No. He is very intellectual
3rd guy is you're skinnier younger brother lol :)
I dont know if all of them act like that, but I saw some settlers commiting crimes against palestinian. Their behaviour is cruel and arrogant. So don't say we show support when it's convenient. You should thank us our support, otherwise you would be soap or thrown to the sea. You are welcome.
Who is "we"? And are "we" outside the jericho range?
@@dogbert52 we=America biatch
Isn't it a little strange that a Christian Evangelical Group trying to convert Jews to Christianity the main Advertiser to this channel? I don't think that is very Kosher. I think this Mr. Gil-Shuster shuld try to get another advertiser or sponsor for his Videos.
the first guy makes alot of sense look at the indian subcontinent when india and pakistan split there were people who were kicked out from both sides and they were all incorporated in their new respective countries.i think those who fled to jordan,lebanon,syria,egypt shouldnt have been left in limbo and remain as refugees for more than 60 years.
anthony ndungu you were wrong about India. There are no Hindus in Pakistan but still a lot of Muslims live in india.
@@dorothyshalom6546 You're wrong about Pakistan, there are over 3 million Hindus in Pakistan while the the Pakistan Hindu council claims that there are close to 8 million Hindus in Pakistan. Most of the Hindus live in the Sindh province, anyone that has lived in Karachi can tell you meeting a hindu isn't uncommon. Maybe try getting your facts right and learn about the world from multiple sources.
not really, he sounded dumb af. his argument "was there peace before the settlements? no, then it's fine for us to eat up Palestinian lands" is the same as saying "were we in good terms before I stole your property? we weren't so stfu"
@@dorothyshalom6546 clearly you know very little about India and Pakistan,
Does your bible address where you capital is? Interesting, not aware of any other religion that has a capital
Palestinian is an obstacle to peace.
Arafat sign peace treaty with Yitzhak rabin, called Oslo Accord peace treaty, 1967 border 2 state solution, Rabin was assassinated by Jews zionsit , and Arafat was poisoned by Israeli and both killed Israeli wants land not the peace, also 100 billions of US taxpayer, U.S. military aid to Israel exceeds $100 billion - Haaretz - Israel News ...
@@ms9771
And... The palestinians are All Ok?
Not really
I also support Israel, but I will never support their policy on the settlements.
Green Space Anyone who would take his time to take a honest look at the Palestinians and mostly just Arabs/Muslims in general would support Israel.
You've got to feel sorry for them as victims of Arab League policy. Only a face saving solution is possible so they keep digging the hole deeper and deeper.
Me too and I’m Israeli. It’s hard to support settlements, and right now we’ve got the most right winged government ever. I hope there would be a normal government again...
Golan Heights and the west bank, and even big parts of the east bank (Jordan) were a part of the Kingdom of Israel, and later the Kingdom of Judea and the Jewish Kingdom of Hashmonai
So what?! Israel itself existed as an independent, sovereign state only for very few hundred years and was mostly a vassal state of others and this was in a very distant past. With your logic most of Europe and many parts in the middle east must now be annexed by Italy, since they were all part of the Roman empire for centuries.
Are the pals allowed to live in a settlement....?????
The ariel woman has her head stuck in the sand
The first person was very articulate, I lile the wah he explained every bit in detail & precisley based on facts. He made a lot of sense
9:07 something is wrong here
Lol.
The first man nails it on the point.
They speak like their erstwhile best friends in aparthied S Africa.
Hey!! I have this question :) Is for the Israeli Arabs, who say they are excluded from the Israeli army, Greets, Luis from Costa Rica!
They re people of color and not white or apart that socio political class and religious group known Jews or judiasm
Hey most of the jews in Israel are Israeli arabs, like me 😉, so we serve in the IDF, and everything else. sweet dreams, Luis
why not let each group of people have its own congress but then have common basics protected like freedom of speech or whatever. Jews don't want Sharia Law, Palestinians don't want Jewish Law but they both want UN rights you would think
in 1916 balfour declaration was issued and since that time non middle eastern Jews who came from European continent and Asian continent in general existed since that time. so 1929 jews existed as migrants and they were opposed by the native palestinians living in palestine under British occupation that have brought the Jews in there. in 1883 Zionism was formed in Geneva in Europe by theorodor hertzel.
The first man’s argument is actually 5th grade logic and is in fact not intelligent! Lol
This is like when a crooked cop tells you you’re resisting arrest as you’re being tassed. It also sounds like a slimy real estate agent telling you that the basement studio with no windows and ceiling leak is in fact ‘cozy’.
Actually the wars began because of the growing settlements because the arabs felt at that time that the jews would eventually create a State. Imagine some kurds come to Germany and build settlements and their Own infrastructure and the locals try to punish them by law and the kurds defend themselves because they don't find it wrong to create a State in another state
Imagine some ar ab come to kurdistan and opress the hell out of kurds.... oh wait. No need to imagine.
There were no settlements before 1967. The Jews bought land and built on their land.
First guy NAILED it!
no he didnt
First guy look like Bill Gates,Lol
And he is right
הדובר הראשון מעניין
My neighbour and I had a fight so I took over his home and he's only allowed to live in a tent within in his garden. My great grandparents told me it was mine to inherit and I have a spiritual connection with his living room.
If someone throws you out of your home you can always come back.... there's no statue of limitations on property...
@@user-tr8gz2fi9v can you tell the same thing to the native America in the US...
@@ruttiesoothie yes
@@user-tr8gz2fi9v
Questions is ,
Are all Israeli jews really the descendant of persecuted jews ??
Why Ethiopian jews are black ,European jews are white and Arab jews are brown ??
Evolution process is so fast for jews people to change colors of skin within a 2000 year's
I don't mean to be racist but I want to make realization of truths, you all aren't the descendant of persecuted jews.
All religion human race face persecution at some point, neither of us is pure race and neither of us is the real settler of specific region.
Claiming of Zionist to Israel is against the very nature of human civilization.
QUICK QUESTION TO GUY NUMBER THAT SAYS THAT ARAB CITIZENS HAVE EQUAL RIGHT, HOW COME WE NEVER HERE OF JEWS HOUSES BEING DESTROYED OR REPOSSESED AND WE ONLY HEAR OF ARABS?
Gush Katif .
cus we build according to the law and they dont
Because it does not sell papers.
@@ef2718 so Jews houses are also being repossessed?
There are a lot more, but I will mention only 2 points.
1. For 19 years Jordan ruled the West Bank, why didn't they grant independence to the Palestinians there to make their own state?
2. Only the most idiotic ignoramus would deny that the Land of Israel (including the West Bank) was a Jewish country between 3000 and 2000 years ago. Thus in 1947 the nations of the world agreed for the Jewish people to reestablish this Jewish country on part of their ancestral land. In 1948 the Arabs attacked to destroy Israel's small portion and lost more land to Israel than the UN agreed to give them. Then in 1967 they (were about to) attack again, and once again they lost and Israel only reconquered its original land. It's that simple, someone attacks you and you conquer land that was yours, you took back that which was taken from you back then and you are entitled to keep it!
in 1948 2/3 of the inhabitants of british palestine area were arabs. they had all the right in the world to rebel against the fotmation of a jewish state against the will of the majority of the people. plus if you want to compare jewish settlers in westbank to arabs in israel why are arabs in israel subject to the israeli state but the jewish settlers not subject to the palestinian government? this is a ridiculous comparison by him.
All of israeli seem really smart
Nah bruh lookup a man named Oren Hazan. Israeli? Yes. Smart? Hell to the no
@@koby1kanoby159 ובינתיים הוא גם ניהל קזינו, וגם היה בכנסת.
בזמן שאתה בבית עושה ביד פעמיים ביום יא ליצן.
Because they are "chosen". And if you are "chosen", you can even bullshit others and declared smart.
Only the lady with the baby was honest.
5:35 "We need to leave, let's do this quickly" Exactly
No. We are gonna stay. Go back to Arabia.
The First guy basically say that because the history was bloddy tue current and Future settlements are justified
Ive just listened to Thirty minutes of blah, blah about why my fellow Jews have some connections to The Land without any mention of what we will offer to our neighbors, the Arabs.
@8:38 why is her English sounds so american? Is she born in America? Or is she a native american?
Can someone explain what the last girl means that it's an economic question whether to live in settlements?
real estate is drastically cheaper in the West Bank then in is in Israel proper.
buying a 3 bedroom apartment in Tel-Aviv can cost you over a million dollars, whereas in one of the settlements you can easily buy a new 2-3 story house in a good neighborhood with good schools for a much lower price.
Ok, that's from the Israeli side, but what do Palestinians gain from living in settlements?
Adam Kallin Palestinians are not allowed to live in settlements..
Approximately 60,000 Palestinian workers are employed in Israel, most of them in the construction industry and the rest in agriculture, services and industry.
Some 25,000 additional Palestinian workers are employed in the settlements, in the industrial and agricultural areas of the Jordan Valley.
Mishor Adumim is an industrial zone east of the Ma'aleh Adumim settlement. One of the characteristics of the industrial zone is the employment of Palestinian and Bedouin workers employed in Israeli-run factories, similar to other industrial zones in Judea and Samaria.
Following the BDS boycott of products originating in Israeli factories in Judea and Samaria, some of the factories in the industrial zone moved into the Green Line. For example, by 2015, the Soda Stream plant, which employed 1,100 workers, 850 of whom were Israeli Arabs and Palestinians, and 250 Jews, was transferred to the Negev. Needless to say, many of the Arab workers lost their jobs as a result.
many palestinians see the settlements as the source of their income, therefore i would not be surprised if they are opposed to the BDS (even if their govenment does not allow them to express these thoughts).
I think this will be an interesting question.
No one is forced to live in a settlement. It's just cheaper to live in Samaria and Judea. I think that and the Scriptures are the main reasons that American Jews are obsessed with the West Bank.
What is the name of the guy in the cap in front of the blue curtain? I like this guy!
Europe is not a country. I fail to see why that is hard to understand.
Was there violence before the 1880s ..... no
“Take it abroad and tell them!” Turn down fo what!
the logic jumped out of the window right from the start
The first one is lie.
The first people before Israel are Kanane more than 4000 years.
As a note from the first person in this video...one thing he didn't mention is that the reason there is a "refugee situation" among Palestinians is because many Palestinians in West bank and Gaza that had homes or land in Israeli areas effectively ran to the Arab nations that were attacking Israel in the 1948 war. They were not run out by Jews. In other words they were Deserters. This is why there are Arab citizens of Israel. This is why there are refugees. The Israeli Arabs are the Arabs and families that did not defect to the several dozen Arab armies attacking Israel in WAR. The refugees are the ones that left immediately following the creation of the Jewish state.
There are also Arabs in West bank who claim they had land in the Israeli territories that NEVER did. They are using the situation to their advantage by making themselves refugees when in reality their entire family had been in the West Bank prior to 1948. In other words, there are many Arab Families in West Bank and Gaza who are NOT refugees but claim to be.
That first guy- best answer ever! God bless him and his!!
You do realize that the first guy is the type that alienates non jews and is the reason we got another shoah brewing right now? When are you people going to learn the lesson god has taught you. He took israel back a long time ago. There you will meet your final doom.
@@ellielowehiem9303
Who do you refer to when you sayi "you people?"
What kind of "people" do you consider yourself?
When are you going to learn?
@@ilovenoodles7483 Those who do not learn from the past are bound to repeat it.