The information you are providing in this video (9:45) is wrong. This drive doesn’t have a ‘better’ controller than 990 EVO. It is the exact same controller. What’s new about the 990 evo plus is that they are using the V8 flash nand. Also used on Samsung 990 pro. So basically 990 EVO plus is a combination of 990 EVO controller and 990 PRO nand, without dram. As you have seen the perfomance is close to 990 EVO, but what you did not mention is what advantage this V8 nand gives over the V6 nand from the 990 evo: better energy efficieny and thermals. That’s it.
the plus controller is updated vs the standard evo controller for pcie 5 and a few other small tid bits, of change. they are not 100% the same as you claim, its definately different due to the updates the plus got over the standard evo and the pro models. most nvme by same brand not tons of difference but some on the controller. cant use a evo controller on a plus model, = not same it wont work
@@kooltime8597 and beside the point , as well as obvious , any gen 4 drive can run on a gen 5 slot . the commentor 's point was 100% correct and gave better info than the video although i do like this channel.
Can somebody explain this to me? I dont see how this would free up lanes in a way that was not possible before. Motherboard makers could already make from a 4x pcie 5.0 to two 4x 4.0 slots. Its also not like you can physically put 2 of these in one slot. So i dont really see the benefit unless i'm missing something.
@@djastua Hi Mate lets say your CPU (7600X) has 28 pcie lanes available. 4 lanes for chipset / 16 lanes for Gpu - This would generally leave 8 pcie lanes for storage (m.2/Nvme) what happens if your mobo has 3 or 4 m.2/nvme slots? (You could only use two of them at 4.0 x 4) if you utilised 5.0 x 2 then you could use of 4 available slots.
Interesting results. Thanks for the WhoKeys link, had to use it a month ago to install Win 11 pro and it worked a treat, less than the cost of a cup of coffee. Awesome value and info, keep up the great work. 🙂
Good video with nice tests and interesting info. Personally I have a new (for me) favorite in the Kingston Fury Renegade 2TB. It's Gen 4 and slightly slower than the Samsung 990 EVO and EVO+. But speed isn't why I like it. There are a few things that makes it interesting to me. First of all is the price. Where I live it currently is the cheapest 2GB drive faster than 4000 MBs. That's one point. Then it has a DRAM, or at least that's what I think I found when checking the Kingston homepage. I like those so that's a second point, possibly at least. And it has a TBW rating of 2000. As I'm a total pessimist I kind of believe it really isn't as reliable as that says, but then I don't really trust any MTBF type numbers, though units with higher numbers are usually a little more reliable than those with lower numbers. Comparing this to for instance the Samsung 990 EVO that one has a rating of 1200 TBW. So the information says the Kingstone has better durability. I like durable storage so that's the third point. With three point, or possibly two, uncertain about DRAM on the Fury, it makes my list. Really it only needed that 2000 TBW rating to win for me. I would still prefer it if it was a Gen 3 drive as I hate having drives die.
agreed, on a desktop monitor might be fine, but on a mobile or even laptop I would have struggled to read the text. I think it would be also nice to have some sort of visual differentiation between gen3, 4 and 5 drives, like different hue of color or something. Perhaps and extra would also be indicating the price of the drives, or price per TB. This would help us find the ideal drive for us viewers
when you tested it did you use it in PCI 5 slot or a gen 4 slot - then see what differences it makes. the 990 pro is pci 4, vs the new evo plus can go into a pci 5 slot. test the pci 5 vs pci 4 on the drive
Hi! what would you recommend for games drive? i want to get a 2TB one. Right now i have 1TB kioxia and have micro-stutters in games with it. Same games even on HDD look flawless
First number 8 or SATA 9 for nvme and second number are generation They will use A after 9 so technically 9A0 in next gen ? They are already using A in the commercial version
got 1x samsung 950 evo 1TB (system) and 2x 950 evo 2 tb in my build, to be honest, no need to upgrade and the gen5 parts are too hot, they clock down after few seconds
@@X862go They do have an 8 TB drive, but it's only a SATA-drive (870 QVO 8 TB). It's been 4 years since they made it so it's about high time that they make NVMe drives with the same capacity.
What is the audio coming out in multiple different languages for me. Pretty weird, especially when the language keeps changing from one to another with none being English. I’ve had Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, French, Russian - pretty funny.
Not worth it, the 4tb 990pro is about 50bucks cheaper around here with better performance. For the price of 1 990 evo plus you could buy almost 2 lexar nm790
Eh...if you buy a Samsung SSD you bought the wrong one. I had a 980 Pro bite the dust within 3 months. Samsung support is so inept they didnt even know what a SSD is. They ended up just sending the case to Amazon for a full refund.
UA-cams audiotrack „Feature“ is going wild again. The Video Starts at some random Language and on my tv i cant Switch to the default englisch audiotrack 🤔
i don't know my inner feeling doesn't allow me buy a samsung ssd or memory card because i don't trust no matter how many people find it excellent , i never get a good feeling when i try to buy samsung ssd or memory card i rather spend more money then considering buying a samsung ssd , it didn't give a good feeling cause last time i bought 4tb i used only for normal use store some important files after some what happen it just brick itself later i found out it was because of bad driver update that data is super important i was lucky it was stored in my old ssd so after that i never consider using samsung ssd
Can’t say why you were unlucky, but I have had a number og Samsung Pro drives used at my work through the years without issues, but more importantly in my home pc I have a Samsung Pro SSD which has been working flawlessly for 7+ years now. With that said, it goes without saying that you should always have backup of your stuff.
@Amn2k9 since that day I don't use much SSD to store data I just created a nas server with some nas hdd bought 2x 10 tb ironwolf harddrive it was much better and I can rely on without worrying that my data won't be lost
@@Amn2k9 I’ve had my 512gb 950 pro as a boot/ program drive for almost 9 years now, it has more than 160tb written to it and is still working just fine! On the flip side I’ve had 5 980 pro’s that have completely died on me within the span of a year; Now just like the Devilgaming I won’t touch a Samsung drive with a 10 foot stick…
@@X862go you going lost your data your trust on that brand money is not the issue 🙂 my data is more valuable then the SSD itself secondly those bad driver update brick the whole SSD and I can't retrieve data nand is short
He was pretty clear and it is well known for a decade: For general use (heavy reading only) get the EVO. For "PRO" use (excessive writing, usually for video editing etc.), get the pro.
The information you are providing in this video (9:45) is wrong. This drive doesn’t have a ‘better’ controller than 990 EVO. It is the exact same controller. What’s new about the 990 evo plus is that they are using the V8 flash nand. Also used on Samsung 990 pro. So basically 990 EVO plus is a combination of 990 EVO controller and 990 PRO nand, without dram. As you have seen the perfomance is close to 990 EVO, but what you did not mention is what advantage this V8 nand gives over the V6 nand from the 990 evo: better energy efficieny and thermals. That’s it.
well... in my opinion, this mistake shouldnt happen...
he did mention that this one is more energy efficient, at the end of the video but not that it was because of the v8 and such
the plus controller is updated vs the standard evo controller for pcie 5 and a few other small tid bits, of change. they are not 100% the same as you claim, its definately different due to the updates the plus got over the standard evo and the pro models. most nvme by same brand not tons of difference but some on the controller. cant use a evo controller on a plus model, = not same it wont work
@@kooltime8597 and beside the point , as well as obvious , any gen 4 drive can run on a gen 5 slot . the commentor 's point was 100% correct and gave better info than the video although i do like this channel.
Love your videos mate. Especially the ones regarding cpu efficiency, and cpu idle watts usage! ❤❤
Good job mate, well explained and i agree freeing up pcie lanes could 100% be a benefit especially when more budget orientated cpus are used.
Can somebody explain this to me? I dont see how this would free up lanes in a way that was not possible before. Motherboard makers could already make from a 4x pcie 5.0 to two 4x 4.0 slots. Its also not like you can physically put 2 of these in one slot. So i dont really see the benefit unless i'm missing something.
@@djastua Hi Mate lets say your CPU (7600X) has 28 pcie lanes available. 4 lanes for chipset / 16 lanes for Gpu - This would generally leave 8 pcie lanes for storage (m.2/Nvme) what happens if your mobo has 3 or 4 m.2/nvme slots? (You could only use two of them at 4.0 x 4) if you utilised 5.0 x 2 then you could use of 4 available slots.
@@TechCheckUK Doesn't the motherboard do that automaticcaly as soon as you plug the other drives?
Interesting results. Thanks for the WhoKeys link, had to use it a month ago to install Win 11 pro and it worked a treat, less than the cost of a cup of coffee. Awesome value and info, keep up the great work. 🙂
Hola, me alegra que hayas subido este video con la posibilidad de escucharlo en diferentes idiomas. Gracias por la información 🎉
Good video with nice tests and interesting info.
Personally I have a new (for me) favorite in the Kingston Fury Renegade 2TB. It's Gen 4 and slightly slower than the Samsung 990 EVO and EVO+. But speed isn't why I like it. There are a few things that makes it interesting to me. First of all is the price. Where I live it currently is the cheapest 2GB drive faster than 4000 MBs. That's one point. Then it has a DRAM, or at least that's what I think I found when checking the Kingston homepage. I like those so that's a second point, possibly at least. And it has a TBW rating of 2000. As I'm a total pessimist I kind of believe it really isn't as reliable as that says, but then I don't really trust any MTBF type numbers, though units with higher numbers are usually a little more reliable than those with lower numbers. Comparing this to for instance the Samsung 990 EVO that one has a rating of 1200 TBW. So the information says the Kingstone has better durability. I like durable storage so that's the third point.
With three point, or possibly two, uncertain about DRAM on the Fury, it makes my list.
Really it only needed that 2000 TBW rating to win for me. I would still prefer it if it was a Gen 3 drive as I hate having drives die.
here's a build video idea for you. Best creator pc builds at 3 price points based on thermals. The coolest running drives, cards, cpu, memory.
Hi, nice video. I have Msi gt77 but I dont know which ssd is suitable for me.. do you think this is acceptable to my laptop?
Thanks for this!
Also recommend how to open the laptop? Which toolkit?
Excellent video but the presentation of your graphs are difficult to read.
I agree, it'd be better if he had just recorded the tablet screen
agreed, on a desktop monitor might be fine, but on a mobile or even laptop I would have struggled to read the text.
I think it would be also nice to have some sort of visual differentiation between gen3, 4 and 5 drives, like different hue of color or something. Perhaps and extra would also be indicating the price of the drives, or price per TB. This would help us find the ideal drive for us viewers
Thank you Lauri.
when you tested it did you use it in PCI 5 slot or a gen 4 slot - then see what differences it makes. the 990 pro is pci 4, vs the new evo plus can go into a pci 5 slot. test the pci 5 vs pci 4 on the drive
they both work in gen 5 slots, im sure he did, why break out 25 motherboards
Hi! what would you recommend for games drive? i want to get a 2TB one.
Right now i have 1TB kioxia and have micro-stutters in games with it. Same games even on HDD look flawless
What device is he using to draw on the charts?
Hey! You have access to multiaudio channels.
What is the laptop shown on 2:30? Thank you
I wish you had commented more on how it has no on board ram but uses system ram. I'm wondering if faster ram helps the Plus version.
Is the crucial 705 the same with or without the heatsink?
Yes
Samsung will do everything it can to not name it 1080 or 1090
First number 8 or SATA 9 for nvme and second number are generation
They will use A after 9 so technically 9A0 in next gen ?
They are already using A in the commercial version
except for both cards are just $10 difference on Amazon.
got 1x samsung 950 evo 1TB (system) and 2x 950 evo 2 tb in my build, to be honest, no need to upgrade
and the gen5 parts are too hot, they clock down after few seconds
Please make some builds for Blender.
Come on Samsung, you know people want an 8 TB version!
💯 idk why they don't make 8tb drives?
@@X862go They do have an 8 TB drive, but it's only a SATA-drive (870 QVO 8 TB).
It's been 4 years since they made it so it's about high time that they make NVMe drives with the same capacity.
@@SuperConker is there any big draw backs from bigger storage?
M4 mac mini pro vs macbook pro max m4?
You don’t mention endurance ratings at all.
What is the audio coming out in multiple different languages for me. Pretty weird, especially when the language keeps changing from one to another with none being English. I’ve had Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Japanese, French, Russian - pretty funny.
Not worth it, the 4tb 990pro is about 50bucks cheaper around here with better performance.
For the price of 1 990 evo plus you could buy almost 2 lexar nm790
Eh...if you buy a Samsung SSD you bought the wrong one. I had a 980 Pro bite the dust within 3 months. Samsung support is so inept they didnt even know what a SSD is. They ended up just sending the case to Amazon for a full refund.
no temperatur tests... I am sad :-(
I strongly dislike the german audio track
hybrid (they cheaped out on the dram)
I guess they did something new in addition to cheaping out on the dram
Hey Samsung, why don't you realease a consumer Gen 5 X4 drive already jeez 🙄.
Reliably probably gen 5 gets hot 🔥 🥵
Actually coming 2025 with new controller
EVO PUSsss
UA-cams audiotrack „Feature“ is going wild again. The Video Starts at some random Language and on my tv i cant Switch to the default englisch audiotrack 🤔
What's going on? 🤣😇
i don't know my inner feeling doesn't allow me buy a samsung ssd or memory card because i don't trust no matter how many people find it excellent , i never get a good feeling when i try to buy samsung ssd or memory card i rather spend more money then considering buying a samsung ssd , it didn't give a good feeling cause last time i bought 4tb i used only for normal use store some important files after some what happen it just brick itself later i found out it was because of bad driver update that data is super important i was lucky it was stored in my old ssd so after that i never consider using samsung ssd
Can’t say why you were unlucky, but I have had a number og Samsung Pro drives used at my work through the years without issues, but more importantly in my home pc I have a Samsung Pro SSD which has been working flawlessly for 7+ years now. With that said, it goes without saying that you should always have backup of your stuff.
@Amn2k9 since that day I don't use much SSD to store data I just created a nas server with some nas hdd bought 2x 10 tb ironwolf harddrive it was much better and I can rely on without worrying that my data won't be lost
@@Amn2k9 I’ve had my 512gb 950 pro as a boot/ program drive for almost 9 years now, it has more than 160tb written to it and is still working just fine! On the flip side I’ve had 5 980 pro’s that have completely died on me within the span of a year; Now just like the Devilgaming I won’t touch a Samsung drive with a 10 foot stick…
They will replace it if that really happened.
@@X862go you going lost your data your trust on that brand money is not the issue 🙂 my data is more valuable then the SSD itself secondly those bad driver update brick the whole SSD and I can't retrieve data nand is short
Hey Tech Notice? Is there a way that I can reach you about an inquiry? Sent you an email from the address UA-cam gave me.
stop ai generated sinc to german!! thats terrible af!!
Are you like Scottish or South African accent? 🤔
Plz don't continue w/ this format of recording yourself drawing on screen. It's hard to read and isn't helping.
Hindi?? 😮
The french dubing is so horrible 🤢
Too bad cause I think this video could be interesting
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Still go for the PRO... because it says "PRO" on it so it must be better 🤦♂
buying ‘PRO’ for the dram cache. That makes the difference in the consistency test. Have you watched the video?
He was pretty clear and it is well known for a decade: For general use (heavy reading only) get the EVO. For "PRO" use (excessive writing, usually for video editing etc.), get the pro.
@@constantinosschinas4503 the evo plus has no dram, uses 990 pro nand and 990 evo controller, its confusing