Collision 2024 - Onin (Steve) VS Kola (Roy) - Ultimate Top 8 - Winners Semi-Finals
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I know its pretty obvious in hindsight; but Kola really should have started with Cloud. Respect trying the Soul character first though
First thing i thought when the game ended
Minecart into up smash gets no props from me
Limit has no props from me
@@broccoliboy9673Steve player spotted
@@waleedmughal4439 don’t play smash I do play Minecraft though
Both cloud and Steve are broken af
@@mando3703 cap cloud not even top 10 spargo just really good
No hate on Onin. Hate the game not the player, but Kola is absolutely miles ahead of him in raw skill. You can tell that Acola has really good fundamentals but Onin doesn’t seem to have that
His fundamentals are fine. Better than anyone in this comment section's, at least. I'm not even a Steve player, but most of his decisions were pretty good. Sure, he may be a bit boosted by Steve, but it's not that he's a bad player. He has has the recognition needed to play at a top level. Onin isn't bad. He's actually really good. Acola's just on an entire other level.
@@bluyu I agree. I don’t think he’s bad, his skill just isn’t as obvious as Acola. And yeah everyone that watches pro smash couldn’t hold a candle to anyone in these videos. People forget that
@@hecticmojo4532 Apart from me, because I'm like, super cool and stuff. Yeah. I'm like, so good... Or something. Yeah.
@@bluyu oh yeah same. We are probably the only two people in the comments who are actually secretly good. Just don’t like to brag about it
@@hecticmojo4532 Definitely, definitely.
Bad timeline indeed
The better player lost
Yeah he should of started with Cloud
The better player: 4:36
Also the better player: 8:26 lmfao
@@63chicago6still is the better player Steve is so carried
@@63chicago6yes he is the better player according to rankings. Sometimes the better player loses
"YES! MY 1727263th minecart worked!" lame ass character
Fr
*my heart broke for him when i saw that minecart scoop him*
Organizers are just loosing viewership by not baning Steve, it is just doesn't make sense to be so willing to lose money.
Yall need to grow up
@@Willy-fd7tj I did. I moved on to better activities than watching a character that cheats. I invite everyone to do the same. Don't waste your time.
Loved to see the Cloud. Unfortunately, it was too little too late. Those SDs were heartbreaking
suboptimal timeline
yeah, too much whinging in this one
@@nathanlevesque7812 you mean “whining”? Can’t even spell ts right and you wonder why no one take you serious
@@CipherKnighto"It", "takes", and "seriously". Learn to spell before you shit on somebody for a typo
@@jennyqin3298 there’s a difference between talking in slang and outright stupidity. How about sthu
@@jennyqin3298 also “ts” means “the shit” just because I clearly need to spell that out for you LMAO
That was a beautiful counter game 1
Bro the way this meta’s been treating Roy is soul shattering to me
Wdym? I don't see any problem with the meta and Roy, its been treating him fine.
@@RuneTacticss bro he’s been dropping sets to Steve, Kazuya, and I’m not sure if this is still the case but also the Aegis, and I have yet to see him get a win on Shadic. I just feel like FP2 especially is just pushing him to the wayside and he’s losing the respect he deserves
@@CipherKnighto I think its a Kola problem imo. Flow has been beating Space really consistently (Aegis), and Alice in Japan does well against Steves, even beating Acola pretty handily before. Goblin also does oddly well against Steves. Kola even would've beaten Onin if he didn't get himself killed 3 times. If you watched enough gameplay, you'd see how Kola holds in a lot and doesn't play patient, and if you watch carefully you can see this is how Shadic wins, he stands there and uses Corrin's big sweeping aerials to hit anyone who rushes and mashes buttons. Corrin WANTS you to run in and Shadic takes advantage of this to the max, which is why he wins so often because most people just hold in. Recent example, look at Kola vs Lima and Goblin vs Lima, its complete night and day and of course in those sets Kola kept rushing in and mashing and lost because of it, but Goblin played super patient and won because of it. What people don't understand is that in a lot of MUs, especially the more meta relevant ones you need to play Roy patiently but there's this stigma that Roy has to run in and mash buttons when in reality, he can play just as well by playing patient. Another great example of patient Roy working is Goblin vs Tea at Ult Summit 4, Pac Man is a MU you have to play patiently. Recently Kola has actualy improved on it a tiny bit and played very slightly more patient at some points which really helped at some points in this tourney so maybe he's learning. You need to know when to step on the gas, and when to put on the brakes. Now Kazuya is a very real problem, but only against people who can 0td consistently which the few top players that play him can do so, so yeah that sucks. Kazuya imo is the only real "Meta" problem (Even though he doesn't show up often) but you really don't see a 0td Kazuya that often, only a few tourney players can do it consistently.
@@RuneTacticss despite this being a huge wall of text just reading the first few lines gives me some hope. Thanks for that man. I just felt like it was a morale crusher seeing some of the sets Kola dropped and seeing Roy drop 11 spots on the new tierlist
@@CipherKnighto The tier list isn't a big deal, for some reason there was this big "Roy sucks" and "Roy is mid tier" movement going on that people were oddly obsessed with but its been dying down in recent times. It doesn't really make sense to me, he was #6 in results for 2023 and people still said "He had no results" and 2023 was probably his worst year. It'll only go up from here. I don't know if you watch Flow, but he's been going crazy with Roy and he's like a mix of Goblin and Kola. Kola seems to be getting back into the groove of things and I think he learnt some important things this tourney, but if not, Flow also has a lot of potential. Also if you wanna feel better, just look at Zomba and Rob. He's been dropping sets like crazy after he won that tournament, and almost everyone agrees that Rob is top 5.
It would also take me a couple of seconds to force myself to dap up a Steve player, lol
I would do it solely for the sportsmanship and not lookin like a bitch. I could never fw em outside of that
So close. Fun to watch. Definitely not the end id want but a great fight.
12:36 when your opponent reads your mashing out of hitstun but you 5.99$
And it happened at 40. Literally no other character in the game is living this without at least being put in a compromised position. Smh
@@CipherKnightothat's just false. Pikachu ? Game and watch ? Sonic ? Steve is broken as hell but at least let's be fair, everyone has a broken recoverie in this game
@@user-ht5bv9wj2y Cloud’s fair is one of the strongest spikes in the game and when fully fresh it can outright kill middleweights under 40%, those 3 you mentioned are complete non factors
@@CipherKnighto ok but out if all the broken things that Steve has you complain about him being too heavy ? He is a middle weight. Less heavy than Mario
@@user-ht5bv9wj2y I never said that, I said the 3 characters you mentioned explode instantly upon getting hit by that. The one that has the best chance of living is Sonic and even he gets forced to up b in a position where he’s easily 2 framed, and that’s if his airdodge after the up b is even enough to cover the distance to the ledge depending on when the hitstun ends. My point still stands. You need to get better with comprehension.
Bad timeline
Ever since they added Steve into smash ain’t serve no purpose I don’t know who thought that was a good idea he can’t fight fr
Sad to see a Steve at a top 8, it should be banned
No
No
It's no longer "he" or even the ridiculous "they". Now it's "it". Smh
It's a video game character bruh
Steve is cringe
As soon as he switched to Cloud I wanted him to lose. Cloud Bair disgusts me.
It's not like the other character had an easy 60%+ uptilt combo that comes out frame 6 or lower, safe on shield, and can kill with backair at around 80 at center stage. Not to mention a command grab projectile that kills before 100 at ledge, a top 10 recovery in the game, literally the strongest foos option in the game, best edgeguaring tools and ledge trapping tools in the game, and one of the strongest , fastest fsmashes in the game
Steve is sooooo cool!!!!!
Maguma
Why do the commentators refer to Kola as "they"??? Do everybody speak like that in the US?
People are weird, but I’m not tryna get into the politics of my country lol
Thank you kola
Ultimate is dead
oh no. anyway
the winner is always the one that played better, simple as that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Me when I lie
Pronouns: any/all 💀
Yeah?
Yeah, this world is a woke circus rn. I hope “it” enjoyed its victory 💀
Sparg0’s said “Spa” 😂
@@TopOfAllWorlds YEAH
@@Ericspil790 Who cares about woke anyway in 2024 lol
You can actually break Steve's up smash.
What do you mean?
Kola only lost with Roy because be kept mashing. Not because of Steve bs. Skill diff
Onin was being even more braindead. Only difference was he has a much more lenient margin for error for obvious reasons 😂
cry more lol someone has a Roy problem on elite smash 😂😂😂
@CipherKnighto If Onin was mashing why wasn't he punished for it?
@@fupalover he was punished for it. That’s what I’m saying, reread my comment. He has a lighter margin for error because Steve is broken and has a safety net in literally almost every sort of difficult situation he can land in.
@@fupalover2:40
Get that masher out of here! Great work Onin!
*calls Kola a masher
*ignores Steve’s braindead set play
@@ledrew2370 I prefer steve's braindead play than a sword masher
Bro he was literally mashing out of hitstun and you’re gonna try to reflect it on Kola. The Roy “mashing” is way more hype than whatever this crap is.
* Monkey *
Difference between kola and omin is that if Steve was never made no one would have ever heard of onin. Whereas if Roy was never brought into this game, kola would've probably made a name for himsrlf with cloud, cause he's actually good at this game.
yay love steve :D
Literally no one ever:
Thats what im talkimg about. LETS GO ONIN
Who tf is rooting for onin?
@@Jumogashe just wanna be different so bad dont pay no attention to em
@@Jumogas Me fool.
I hate seeing the Unga bunga swordsman and the final fantasy fucker.
@@Jumogassteve mains and white supremacists