For a french man who likes vintage this shop seems like a paradise. Congratulations for the video, the sound and the beauty of this guitar. You’re alright to me.
You guys do great work. I mean incredible!!! Kudos to all and a Happy New Year. Sometimes It makes my heart cry to see all the equipment you profile that I used to own. To quote the Wicked Witch of the West..."oh, what a cruel world!"
Yes we know the 1959 can rock out and sound good but it would’ve been good also to see the clean tones with a Bigsby being used in a way they could accent and show off with a Guitar really can do
I love bigsbys but I prefer them on arch tops. That said, we aren’t in the old times. If YOU want a bigsby then rock it, don’t let that be determined by some boomer in a forum from 2007. As a young and new guitar lover, I find myself liking many things that are perceived unlikeable.
Well… to be fair if you’re talking about how it looks, Les Paul does have an arch top (carved). If you mean hollow body arch tops specifically, I would only want one on a semi hollow with a center block to support it. I have a couple of old hollowbodys with trems and I never use them because I don’t want to stress that thin, 50 year old top wood.
ECG has been kind enough to host me in Seattle. A few kind suggestions: perhaps looks at changing the mic to a Royer and/or 57- an SM7B is not the most flattering mic for loud guitar cabs; Run a tube screamer or similar before the front of the amp - cranked amps have a lot of lore but in truth many producers used a pedal to take the transients and eq. Cheers and nice work!
At 3:20, it looks like the G-string has been strung just to the left of the notch in the saddle, and on the B string, it looks like there is an extra notch in the saddle. Can anyone explain what's going on there?
Here's a little tone tip o' the day: if you peel the bar code sticker off of those repop celestions, you'll get a more authentic vintage tone!😜 I also would love to see Karl do a proper Neil Young/ Daniel Lanois style demo of this specimen.
I dont think this one would even have a snakebite- take a look at it. Someone machined a piece of aluminum to mount into the stud holes and the screws are going into the aluminum, not the wood. It stuck out to me and I thought that was pretty cool, someone made a vibramate type adapter for this guitar way back in the 60's
Gorgeous axe. Two things: It's the NUT and the bridge that cause most tuning problems with guitars with a "twang" bar. Keep them lubed and you're good. Second: If you want to keep that Bigsby all original, yet want that best tonality, replace it with a new Bigsby and change out the string attachment roller and the downward pressure roller with Callahams, made from cold rolled steel. Easier to string and sounds fab! Actually, I know it's sacrilege to even suggest this, but the tone will also improve with a Callaham bridge and stop tail piece, ALSO made from cold rolled steel ...
Hmm. Interesting - what do you mean by "improved tone"? I know that a lot of people feel endless sustain is the be-all/end-all of a guitar's tonal characteristics, but I also know you dig flats, like me...
@@allrequiredfields Balanced sound from string-to-string, and from bridge PUP to neck PUP. Essentially, more string vibration transferred into the body with the Callaham bridges. But "tone" is subjective, of course ...
@Tonetwisters Break angle after the bridge makes a huge difference. I bought one of the cheapest Bigsbys with the plastic bearings in the front roller that everyone criticizes and installed it my 70s Japanese Les Paul copy. I noticed that on guitars that use the Vibramate mounting bar bolted in the tailpiece holes, it raises the Bigsby up off the body about half a centimetre and reduces the break angle. So when I put mine on, I just left the old tailpiece mounting bolts screwed down into the body and sat the Bigsby on top of those. The gap between the Bigsby and the body is not even noticeable, but it reduced the break angle of the strings between the bridge and the front roller to just a few degrees (similar to when you top-wrap your strings). No tuning problems.
Can you guys comment on the piece of aluminum that the bigsby is screwed into? It looks like someone made an adapter that mounts to the stud holes so the screws wont have to go into the top of the guitar like a vibramate. Is that something that came from the factory or was it a one off piece someone had made to mount the bigsby to the guitar?
Nevermind, I looked at it again and it looks like the bottom plate of a sorkin bridge that was used to shim it up for clearance over the top carve. my mistake.
@@chuckyz2 They changed the dye to the non fade formula first, then they changed to the reflector knobs in late 1960. A burst that still has UV sensitive dye wouldn't leave the factory with reflector knobs.
@@jerrymorganjr It wouldn't be the first time one came with something from before. Maybe it is an early 60 that they wanted to try the first set of reflector knobs on. I mean, how much time was there between the dye change and the knob change? They look correct and authentic. Maybe an older body was pulled from the shelf that didn't get completed past the dye process. Lol. Maybe the new owner changed them when he saw the new ones coming with them. Who knows? They said it is all original save the tuners. They know a lot more about authenticating these things than me. I am just a dreamer that finds these guitars fascinating in every way. Would like to see them chime in on it.
@@chuckyz2 I mean, it's definitely possible. If these are factory knobs, it's incredibly RARE! In that case, you would think Trey would have mentioned that in the video.
@@jerrymorganjr If you are right about the dye being changed before the knobs, and they knew, they may have brought it up. But it's easy to see how it can be overlooked as most 60's have the reflectors. That Bixby is far more irritating than it maybe having the wrong knobs. If I had it, it would get snakebit immediately.
Pause the video @3.21 and see how much the strings are out of line are are forced at ridiculous angles to get strung over the bridge saddles.. This has been installed off center!! WAKE UP TO THIS VINTAGE PROPAGANDA!!
@@anthonyc1883 Anything would be better than causing it to clip out with too high sound pressure levels like these guys always seem to. Watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/5Eoe45GFfko/v-deo.html
Les pauls are beautiful guitars and in my opinion, a bigsby is hideous to look at and drags down the beauty of a Les Paul. Also, in my opinion its important that a Les Paul be a solid, hard-tail, fixed bridge guitar. I suppose this is why 99.9 percent are exactly that. I've played a couple of bigsby SG guitars through my rig and thought that it affected the tone negatively, relative to other SGs that I've played.
@@stricknine8623 might be your taste. i think it'll look cool on my Studio since there's no flamed AAA top, i think it would only add to the looks ☺️ and i think in the era of DSP a small detriment to a "tone" wouldn't make a difference
@@DeeKeyLP "might be your taste" Obviously it's "my taste" Every bit of this kind of stuff is subjective,...its all left up to the eyes and ears of the beholder. This should be an understood given but I even stated the words...."in my opinion" more than once.
For a french man who likes vintage this shop seems like a paradise. Congratulations for the video, the sound and the beauty of this guitar.
You’re alright to me.
really dig the playing. its very interesting in the best way
How is nobody commenting about such an incredible playing ?
Sounds awesome. Bigsby doesn't seem to bother Waddy Watchel. Love that offset Marshall.
Great sounding Les Paul!!
You can tell he’s having a ball playing this one. Who wouldn’t with that gear though. 🤘
That burst made me drool!
You guys do great work. I mean incredible!!! Kudos to all and a Happy New Year. Sometimes It makes my heart cry to see all the equipment you profile that I used to own. To quote the Wicked Witch of the West..."oh, what a cruel world!"
Yes we know the 1959 can rock out and sound good but it would’ve been good also to see the clean tones with a Bigsby being used in a way they could accent and show off with a Guitar really can do
I love bigsbys but I prefer them on arch tops. That said, we aren’t in the old times. If YOU want a bigsby then rock it, don’t let that be determined by some boomer in a forum from 2007. As a young and new guitar lover, I find myself liking many things that are perceived unlikeable.
Well… to be fair if you’re talking about how it looks, Les Paul does have an arch top (carved). If you mean hollow body arch tops specifically, I would only want one on a semi hollow with a center block to support it. I have a couple of old hollowbodys with trems and I never use them because I don’t want to stress that thin, 50 year old top wood.
Beautiful playing. Great sounding, looking guitar. Love the Bigsby too.
ECG has been kind enough to host me in Seattle. A few kind suggestions: perhaps looks at changing the mic to a Royer and/or 57- an SM7B is not the most flattering mic for loud guitar cabs; Run a tube screamer or similar before the front of the amp - cranked amps have a lot of lore but in truth many producers used a pedal to take the transients and eq. Cheers and nice work!
At 3:20, it looks like the G-string has been strung just to the left of the notch in the saddle, and on the B string, it looks like there is an extra notch in the saddle. Can anyone explain what's going on there?
Yes, the G and the B strings are both out of their bridge saddles..lol
Here's a little tone tip o' the day: if you peel the bar code sticker off of those repop celestions, you'll get a more authentic vintage tone!😜 I also would love to see Karl do a proper Neil Young/ Daniel Lanois style demo of this specimen.
Those plastic 50s style Jack's last 1 minute with me playing every time .
Those speakers yea what are they?
Just can't get past that Bigsby. Would rather see the snake bit holes and the rest of the flames. What a beautiful guitar.
BIgsby makes for me. First real guitar had one, sorry I sold it...now in the late stage deciding whether to add one.
@@gorgecoach Right on. I feel that way about my 500 hp 68 Camaro that I had in the late 80's. We always tend to go back to our first loves.
I dont think this one would even have a snakebite- take a look at it. Someone machined a piece of aluminum to mount into the stud holes and the screws are going into the aluminum, not the wood. It stuck out to me and I thought that was pretty cool, someone made a vibramate type adapter for this guitar way back in the 60's
@@siroliver1 I see the screws going into the wood. top middle of screen at 1:24
@@chuckyz2 you're right I need my eyes checked. Now I'm thinking it's a sorting bridge plate used as a shim
Surfy licks on a LP…and it sounds magnificent
Gorgeous axe. Two things: It's the NUT and the bridge that cause most tuning problems with guitars with a "twang" bar. Keep them lubed and you're good. Second: If you want to keep that Bigsby all original, yet want that best tonality, replace it with a new Bigsby and change out the string attachment roller and the downward pressure roller with Callahams, made from cold rolled steel. Easier to string and sounds fab! Actually, I know it's sacrilege to even suggest this, but the tone will also improve with a Callaham bridge and stop tail piece, ALSO made from cold rolled steel ...
Hmm. Interesting - what do you mean by "improved tone"? I know that a lot of people feel endless sustain is the be-all/end-all of a guitar's tonal characteristics, but I also know you dig flats, like me...
@@allrequiredfields Balanced sound from string-to-string, and from bridge PUP to neck PUP. Essentially, more string vibration transferred into the body with the Callaham bridges. But "tone" is subjective, of course ...
@Tonetwisters Break angle after the bridge makes a huge difference. I bought one of the cheapest Bigsbys with the plastic bearings in the front roller that everyone criticizes and installed it my 70s Japanese Les Paul copy. I noticed that on guitars that use the Vibramate mounting bar bolted in the tailpiece holes, it raises the Bigsby up off the body about half a centimetre and reduces the break angle. So when I put mine on, I just left the old tailpiece mounting bolts screwed down into the body and sat the Bigsby on top of those. The gap between the Bigsby and the body is not even noticeable, but it reduced the break angle of the strings between the bridge and the front roller to just a few degrees (similar to when you top-wrap your strings). No tuning problems.
Wow!😍
Keith Richards guitar❤
Can you guys comment on the piece of aluminum that the bigsby is screwed into? It looks like someone made an adapter that mounts to the stud holes so the screws wont have to go into the top of the guitar like a vibramate. Is that something that came from the factory or was it a one off piece someone had made to mount the bigsby to the guitar?
Nevermind, I looked at it again and it looks like the bottom plate of a sorkin bridge that was used to shim it up for clearance over the top carve. my mistake.
Very cool, as always. Greetings from Moscow.
Bigsbys are sexy AF.
dat offset ❗️
The bastard love child of the KeithBurst and Mick Taylor’s ‘60.
@9:00 first time he touch Bigsby :D
Non original knobs, but I still love the look of the reflectors on a faded burst.
They changed to those in 1960.
@@chuckyz2 They changed the dye to the non fade formula first, then they changed to the reflector knobs in late 1960. A burst that still has UV sensitive dye wouldn't leave the factory with reflector knobs.
@@jerrymorganjr It wouldn't be the first time one came with something from before. Maybe it is an early 60 that they wanted to try the first set of reflector knobs on. I mean, how much time was there between the dye change and the knob change? They look correct and authentic. Maybe an older body was pulled from the shelf that didn't get completed past the dye process. Lol. Maybe the new owner changed them when he saw the new ones coming with them. Who knows? They said it is all original save the tuners. They know a lot more about authenticating these things than me. I am just a dreamer that finds these guitars fascinating in every way. Would like to see them chime in on it.
@@chuckyz2 I mean, it's definitely possible. If these are factory knobs, it's incredibly RARE! In that case, you would think Trey would have mentioned that in the video.
@@jerrymorganjr If you are right about the dye being changed before the knobs, and they knew, they may have brought it up. But it's easy to see how it can be overlooked as most 60's have the reflectors. That Bixby is far more irritating than it maybe having the wrong knobs. If I had it, it would get snakebit immediately.
Too bad we couldn't hear what the guitar really sounds like. Clean is the only way to tell what the guitar itself really sounds like.
Under 100k? I would be surprised.
I can't believe there'd be a snowball's chance that it would be under $100K, not even close. Probably several times that.
Up the hill LoL yes mountain grown or higher elevation is always going to be lighter
wow
May I ask how much?
They go for 400-500k usually
@@moonlight450 usd?? 500k usd????????
@@aguadasani8582yeah 58 to 60 les Paul fetched that much
You may, but if you have to ask, you can’t afford it.
@@brinsonharris9816 i can’t even afford a regular Les Paul!😂
I’d buy that just so I could take the bigsby off. Do my bit for humanity lol
Ha ha yes....when buying I'm sure they said "it's not as choice it has a Bigsby" I would take it off too
Thanks, Noodles, but I’d rather hear someone play a one note Neil Young style solo on that thing and know how to actually use that Bigsby.
Soo .. i guess im robbing the store
The negative effects of a Bigsby would still play on this guitar wether it was some holy grail nonsense ..to say it wont is pure bull..
Pause the video @3.21 and see how much the strings are out of line are are forced at ridiculous angles to get strung over the bridge saddles..
This has been installed off center!! WAKE UP TO THIS VINTAGE PROPAGANDA!!
Clapton original 1960 Beano les Paul std had a bigsby and Bigsby lost tone?…… ridiculous
Still cramming that mic down your speakers throat? Harsh.
What should be done? Back it off from the speaker a foot or so? Honest question.
@@anthonyc1883 Anything would be better than causing it to clip out with too high sound pressure levels like these guys always seem to. Watch this video: ua-cam.com/video/5Eoe45GFfko/v-deo.html
First!
To me, a bigsby on a Les Paul, original or not, is an egregious crime ! It goes against everything the spirit of a Les Paul stands for.
why?
Les pauls are beautiful guitars and in my opinion, a bigsby is hideous to look at and drags down the beauty of a Les Paul.
Also, in my opinion its important that a Les Paul be a solid, hard-tail, fixed bridge guitar.
I suppose this is why 99.9 percent are exactly that.
I've played a couple of bigsby SG guitars through my rig and thought that it affected the tone negatively, relative to other SGs that I've played.
@@stricknine8623 might be your taste. i think it'll look cool on my Studio since there's no flamed AAA top, i think it would only add to the looks ☺️
and i think in the era of DSP a small detriment to a "tone" wouldn't make a difference
@@DeeKeyLP
"might be your taste"
Obviously it's "my taste"
Every bit of this kind of stuff is subjective,...its all left up to the eyes and ears of the beholder.
This should be an understood given but I even stated the words...."in my opinion" more than once.
@@stricknine8623 don't need to cling to words, mate, i understood.
Paf's are not really "powerful"