I genuinely feel kinda bad for Iguazu. Man spent years trying to prove himself, and while he *does* have actual, genuine talent, he's just too eager to cut his losses and bail when he thinks he's out of his league. But then he sees you, this no-name independent from the same generation as him and he sees nothing but his failures. He looks at Raven and sees nothing but how his excuses aren't excuses at all, just failings on his own part. He sees you climb the wall where he couldn't, where his friend died. He sees you defeat the Worm and earn Michigan's respect where he couldn't. He sees you come from nothing, a no-name merc that ends up becoming one of the dominant factors on the entire planet for good or ill. And he thinks "That could have been me. That *should* have been me." Iguazu is a Gen 4 just like Raven. When he's asking "What makes you special?!" he's not just asking why you're the protagonist, he's also asking why he couldn't have flown as high as you did when on paper, he's the same as you. I feel like Iguazu hates himself almost as much as he hates you. He might hate you *because* he hates himself so much.
yeah, it feels sort of a relfection of how someone who has their own failings and success come across someone who's just...... naturally better at everything than Iguazu is he's whiney, he's a ass, and spiteful as hell, but that's what makes him human, and everyone looks at us as either sub-human, or more than just "a Human", like a symbol, or potential for the next evolution. he just saw us as the better human, someone he thinks got lucky at something to be able to do the shit they do now, and it pushes him to work towards destroying us, showing us and himself that even the most capable 4th gen pilot had their failings, and to ultimately prove to himself he was worth something. in the end, it was his downfall, but he truely feels human with how the spite drives him, how it comes from his own insecurites, how he lets it destroy his own life for his ultimately meaningless goal. it truely feels like he's a good chance of what 621 had a chance of becoming if their circumstances were slightly different, if they landed in the hands of a corpo, or was less skilled, or simply never got the chance to take a really notable mission
I like that "save a spot for me in hell" line He sounds so calm and collected, he sounds almost like a friend, he finally doesn't see you as this torn on his side, he sees you as an equal, he bested you, and now he doesn't mind sharing a chair with you in hell. If he wasn't consume by hate and envy, we definitely could of been... buddies.
She realised that she made a mistake choosing him to fight us lmao. But I guess she didn't have a choice. He was the only one she could manipulate due to their common interest of killing us
@@MaidenlessScrub not just that he's the only one left compatible, the only others were Suila and O'Keefe and they're dead and or didnt wanna join allmind
Honestly, I gotta respect Iguazu at this point. He managed to control an amalgamation of hundreds of other pilots and a super intelligent AI by sheer pettiness
@@topjos12I believe at 0:14, that's the torso of Carla's AC. 0:20, we see Walter who is veeeeery dead. I vaguely remember someone mentioning how ALLMIND made sure to decimate the cockpits. Yeesh.
@@theguyyouleastexpect Walter's AC - specially, the *goddamn Institute-made weapon* that he fought us with in Liberator - is fucking *headless.* That drives home how screwed things are at this point.
@@biorobot2 What's hilarious is that there's cut dialogue stating that agitated brainwaves share similar properties with coral. We got Ayre, ALLMIND got Iguazu, but ALLMIND plugged Iguana in to the generator slot.
Iguazu's, "I know how this goes. This is where that grit of yours kicks in." Is really nice. All those times he has fought us up to now, he really came to know the way we fight with such intimacy.
Yeah, he talks about the ringing and interference. He literally has his 'main character' moment where he overpowers ALLMIND and Ayre to nullify the Coral Contact. Granted, at that point he's also sort of 'Coral' himself, but he's a single wave. He's not trying to scream against the entire ocean, you feel me? Two waves clashing against each other. Best way I can describe it is Ahsoka Ep. 5 where they listen to the waves and hear the undercurrent and how it sounds like lightsabers clashing.
"I always envied you. The freelancer who had it all." 621 was "inventory" in a human sous vide bag getting pulled out of cold storage shortly before the game started, first encountered Iguazu on the dam mission where 621 was regarded as some nobody to be babysat and only present because Michigan and Walter know each other, and has probably never met Iguazu face to face outside of their mechs. Iguazu's been out there making up an imaginary version of 621 to get mad at. He's some type of guy, alright.
621 was Introduced as an "Independent mercenary" and with the callsign "Raven", he had no idea 621 was just a tool bought at a discount. But he knows that after the Dam mission, he gained recognition from G1 Michigan, something that Iguazu felt hard because he's been trying to prove himself to G1 for over 7 years, then this guy shows up and now everyone talks about him, he also lost his friend G4 volta trying to take the wall. He knows the legend of Raven, the wall climber, the worm killer and he remembers he was a nobody just like him
You misunderstand. Iguazu doesnt think 621 "had it all" like he was some high roller living the good life. He understands that 621 is also a mercenary. But 621 has the skills, the luck, the connections, and the mental stability Iguazu doesnt. Hes always in the right place at the right time with the right skills to get the job done and make everyone love him. Iguazu is some poor gambler stuck paying off his debts to a guy who seems to not give a damn about him and mocks him and shouts at him every day, but Michigan seems to repsect 621 for some reason and never gives him shit, even when youre both on the same mission. Its understandable why Iguazu was jealous.
@@baval5 Despite Michigan talking down to Iguazu and Volta on mission, if you decide to assassinate Michigan it's revealed that he actually respects Iguazu quite a lot. Even after deserting the Redguns, Michigan still respects Iguazu to defend Iguazu's name when the Balam MT squad starts dissing him. 621's also in the same position Iguazu's in. The reason 621 had augmentation done on him was due to landing in a lot of debt. It's why Walter keeps promksing that finding the Coral will help 621 buy back his freedom and hopefully reverse the surgery done on him.
I doubt it. Pretty sure the devs ended up reusing voice actors a lot during this game. Which is fine, usually an AC pilot’s voice might pop up for a grunt or two.
For a game that has characters with no faces, the emotional impact that just voices alone have is simply amazing. Both the English and Japanese VA's did a phenomenal job IMO, and no matter which one you pick for a playthrough they both hit hard.
that line from Iguazu sticks out quite a bit everytime I redo the fight "You've killed me and not just once", The fact AllMind during new game plus greets you differently than when you first start the game has me wondering if the NG+ isnt just NG+ but a form of simulation or timeloop, how would Iguazu know we(the player) has killed him multiple times, he doesnt say defeat he says kill implying he's talking about the original time in the depths and the final time against him and Snail The only explanation that could explain it without the idea of a timeloop is that he's refering to all of the consciousness tied to AllMind in that moment, we know during the mission before coral convergence, Walter and Carla remark that they're fighting clones of the Vespers, so what if Iguazu is actually refering to the Combat data in the arena that AllMind is using to train Raven, one of them was Iguazu meaning we've destroyed him at least twice in that timeline of events, this would also include everyone else in the game and by that point timeloop or no timeloop you do kill quite a bit of people depending on your choices in missions Either way its an odd piece of info the devs just have the character say and nothing else to call it out, not even Ayre reacts to it which makes me think its not supposed to be odd that he says that
Just to add in a type of crackhead theory. What if the first playthrough of the game is the actual events of the world and every playthrough after that is a what if scenario. To try and figure out if there was a better way things could go after whichever of the two ending you went for. I mean think about it what's the difference between the first run and then the second one? The invintory and stats.
I too think that the first two playthroughs may have been simulations. We know Allmind can create hyper realistic simulations. Allmind also saves your arena progress through the playthroughs, and Kate is piloting the perfected Mind Alpha that you helped build in the NG+ playthrough.
Whats even more interesting is the fact that certain other characters like father dolmayen seem to be aware of the threat you pose to rubicon, either through the fires of raven ending or alea iacta est ending, makes me think that the whole "timeloop" thing has a lot to do with coral itself, and 621s ability to loop in time/see alternate futures has to do with corals "infinite potential", since hes the most perfect fourth gen augmented human, born purely from the desire to ascend humanity through the use of coral. Seeing as Coral is more or less inspired by the Dune Universes Spice, I really think its implied.
Personally I'm subscribing to the "NG and NG+ are simulations" theory too. Specifically because even just in NG++, Allmind seems to have a *ton* of very specific plans layed out already. Like knowing that Steel Haze Ortus will be piloted by Rusty and HAL will be piloted by Walter, as well as knowing ahead of time that Walter will be an obstruction to the plan, and the general talk about putting the various "factors" in place. Oh and the Mind models of course. Makes me think that Allmind has been running quite a few of these simulations solely in order to nail down a sequence of events that would lead to coral release, making small changes every time to see how things would play out differently.
Not to be boring, but I think he's just referring to ALLMIND as himself, now that he's part of a collective. When he mentions that there are "a lot of us inside me now. Dregs with a grudge", it feels less like he's talking about selves from past timelines, and more like he's talking about individuals that you killed during this timeline who were uploaded into ALLMIND afterwards. That would also explain why it's not explained further, and why Ayre doesn't mention anything about it; everyone involed knows that ALLMIND is a collective consciousness, so the idea of other pissed-off thoughtforms expressing a grudge through ALLMIND-Iguazu doesn't seem too out of place.
Yeah, this boss is easy to rush down, but harder to slowly kill. Phase 2.5 the lighter builds couldnt get all the dialogue before I died. I also do try different builds for triggering dialogue like flamethrowers or missiles for killing the five ACs at the start slowly for any dialogue triggers.
I won't stand for Iguazu slander. My man overturned Allmind's control with sheer force of will (and salt), most of the times he fought against 621 he heard Ayre buzzing in his head and no matter how salty it is, I have to respect such astounding level of bitterness,that's imhuman. Most people would make themselves coffee and cake and forget about the time that one jerk surpassed you on the lane, NOT IGUAZU
That final attack when Iguazu was about to die, really scared the hell out of me when I first beat him. I almost died myself so didn't take chances and dodged, but I guess it was not necessary.
I’ve known people like him, people who let bitterness take hold and control their entire lives. One of them is in prison now. Their are definitely varying degrees of envy and hatred. And Iguazu was the worst of both. Great character, I really despised him
I love how allmind is actually holding iguazu back in this fight. The moment he takes full control he immediately starts hitting 621 with new moves like he already knew them. He controls the modified Ibis machine with a grace and ferocity unseen in the first phase. Not to mention mind gamma is just straight up iguazu’s original ac build upgraded. So he clearly had the skills and function to be a high ranker only thing holding him back was his mental condition and fears.
My favorite part is at the beginning; the ALLMIND AC is looking up at the finish line to their goal and the music is kind of ethereal, but when it turns around and Iguazu starts speaking, the music drops like your stomach when you start falling.
When I first started the 3rd play through, I figured Allmind would go Hulster 1 on my ass with Kate Markson, but Fromsoft really exceeded my expectations and gave me Iguazu: The Salt of Rubicon
Was I the only one who burst out laughing when I got to the super, secret, final boss and it turned out to be that salty Red Gun that I’d already folded like 5 times?
Him working with ALLMIND was pretty foreshadowed. In the briefing for the mission to kill O'Keefe, they show that there are two gen 4 candidates. The only other gen 4 candidate we knew of was Iguazu. There's also the fact that when Iguazu attacks you in Depth 2 and Institute City, his AC has been modified with ALLMIND parts, meaning he was working with them for a while already.
@@Master_Matoya He literally overpowered the will of an advanced AI with nothing but pure salt. There is a part of me that is amazed at his sheer pettiness.
Well the VA of Iguazu is the same as Tartaglia from Genshin Impact. Tortilla and Iguana's personalities are weirdly similar, although guava has that pettiness and beta energy cranked up to eleven. Also, Tartar has a similar history of people changing his name for shits n giggles.
@@Jetstreamsamsbiggestglazerno, these animations are different. Ayre has the "reach" animation with just her hand as she still believes you won't do the unthinkable. While Iguazu activates his energy claws and charges at you.
“Well, there is a whole lot of us inside me now. Dregs with a grudge. So tell me. Who else are going to kill?” - Allmind That has to be the coldest line in this game
i dont think any game will ever make me feel the same feelings as i felt for iguazu. he is pathetic, embarrassing, and probably one of my favorite enemies in any medium. a revenant hell bent on getting revenge because someone was slightly better than him. igazu is probably my favorite from soft character
thing about this boss fight for me, it was the hardest one I DIDN'T feel the need to bust out the dual zimmer- needle build to beat. finally felt like my skill caught up to my AC and I proceeded to turn ALLMIND's most powerful into scrap
Despite he’s petulance i reeeeeally like that Iguazu got his own main character moment in the second phase of the second half of the fight when he hijacks Allmind’s whole rig. I’ll shut you all up indeed
Hey! So I commented the other day about how these videos help with sensory issues. Today I was struggling with this fight and, emboldened by the assurance of your videos, I just turned voice volume to 0 and subtitles off. I beat it on my next attempt! Unfortunately, I didn't hear the cutscene dialogue either, but that's why I'm here! So, Thanks Again!
I think ALLMIND was just poetic there, calling humanity... well... creation's potential. It was just sad, that in the end, it wasn't up to it in what way that potential comes to fruition through Coral.
She's talking about human merging with coral, creating a new "creation" that has great potential. That's why she wants coral release. ALLMIND is kinda similar to 9ball in previous AC games. An AI whose purpose is to guide humanity, albeit its own way.
@@xxxotakuxxx983 Nineball and its associates kept humanity alive through engineered stalemate wars. ALLMIND is 'benevolent' in how she's trying to throw out the entire board and change what it means to be 'human' to hopefully evolve us past these pointless wars we keep getting into every few hundred years, judging by the AC timeline.
@@xxxotakuxxx983So basically it's Third Impact and Human Instrumentality Project in a way but instead it turns people into coral. FromSoft really likes taking inspiration from other series
@@napalminthemorning1677 im not so sure about turning into coral thing, the true ending is way too ambigious on what it is all truly about more than the two other endings... Atleast with the other two you get some confirmation on what would likely happen...but the true ending is the die being cast and still rolling...
From the start to the end I felt like why is he going to such lengths to kill me? Just because he couldnt win in a 1v1 twice? But then in the end when he died. It all made sense.... and it made me like Iguazu's character.
"I know how this goes, this is where that grit of yours kicks in." had that line play just as we traded blows and he only lost becuase terminal armor went off leaving me at 1
I don't know precisely why I found Iguazu so touching, I just have a soft spot for chronic losers like him. In a world full of dangerous foes and pushovers acting like they're a menace, you get this guy who's just doing his best and yearns for glory while constantly being set up by the story to be the butt of the joke. He's like Gilgamesh in FF5, or Biggs and Wedge in FF8, comic reliefs that lighten up the atmosphere, except he genuinely suffers from it, and gets a complete life crisis from encountering 621. Worsened by the fact they both are from the same generation of augmented humans. From all the characters in AC6, he's the only one you really get to pity, and that made him grow on me. You can't help but root for this guy, he's got that complete underdog energy. And the most exciting thing with underdogs is when they finally get their minute of glory, their payback time, their instant of redemption, going up in flames before dying for good. Man I love Iguazu.
It's because he was truly human. He was pety, spiteful, and arrogant. He saw everything you did and thought, "Why isn't that me?" Both of you are fourth gens (debateably in his case) and you did everything he couldn't. You won the missions he couldn't. He thought you had it all, but all you truly have is determenation to keep going. He had the support, the fame, the money, all of it except for confidence. He could have been so much more, if he wasn't afraid to die. If he had given up fear or got confident sooner, he could very likely have done everything we did. He's one of the few who I truly believe had the potential to be a Raven. Iguazu threw it all away just because of his hatred of you. In the end, he admits he admired and was jealous of you.
Iguzau was so eager to beat 621 that he uploaded himself into AI overlord, blocked said AI overlord through sheer rage and is the only one in the whole game trying to charge at you while being on the brink of death. Iguazu is petty and envious, but his determination and desperation are not to be matched.
I'm really curious about Iguazus "you killed me" part. Specifically when he says "who else are you going to kill?" the line becomes much clearer and also may change voices? Why does it become clearer and if its not Iguazu saying it, who is? Rusty? Sulla?
I'm confused, so does Iguazu still have his human body, or is his mind just part of the AI now, like does it actually explain how All Mind just absorbs people?
Basically allmind absorbs anyone who is coral infused and simulate the rest. We killed Sulla, her agent, and the other one is not onboard with what she's doing, so that leaves iguazu and 621
Everyone who had coral augmentation AND was linked up to the AllMind became part of it the moment they die, as the Coral essentially reads the data of their experiences before AllMind incorporates it into it's system. Iguazu has 2 places he could've died. Once during our descent into Depth 2 when he ambushes us, and again when we ambush V.2 Snail during the NG++ route. Since he had coral augmentation, either one of those places would've sufficed, though since he says we killed him twice? It means that the canonical routing for this game needs us to have faced him in Depth 2 and won. He then gets uploaded to AllMind, which allows him to pilot his old mech as a 'ghost'. That or he means we killed him in a metaphorical sense, either by proxy of all the other guys we murdered in that route or "killing his ambition" by continually outshining him.
Its nothing crazy(the event trigger ids were inside this missions block of dialogue so I assume they were meant for this one.): i.imgur.com/lWJeInt.png
@@GreyCaliber Oh, very interesting. It seems that ALLMIND was banking on Iguazu's hatred toward 621 to pilot that Ibis mech to its full potential. Literally harvesting the power of his salt, incredible.
@@JackNewbie555 and it worked, with his salt he was able to eject Ayre and AllMind from the battlefield during phase 2, her plan worked a little too well
Pretty sure its Sulla. Both because it sounds like him but the nature of the question "who else are you gonna kill" is very reminiscent of Sulla saying stuff like "was it 617 that I killed last?"
It’s the voices inside of iguazu/Allmind. Allmind combined the psyches of different mercenaries into the ultimate A/C, many of those psyches belonging to the people we killed.
I'm not sure, but "So tell me. Who else are you going to kill?" doesn't sound like Iguazu's voice. If anything, I think it sounds like Chatty. Might just be the filter.
I always assumed the tone shift was a result of Iguazu further fusing with Allmind. Much like in the cinematic for phase two where his voice is far clearer, but it's still him
Not sure if this is a thing, but are there lines for mirroring your opponents ACs? As in using their exact parts or even loading the same data from the arena for missions where you sortie together or go against?
I literally use this specific mission to test out new AC builds i find on YT or via share code or just a warmup before i play through the entire game again
I always wondered who the other voice at 1:46 is? Is it just Iguazu but over a different kind of speaker? It doesn't really sound like him and from the context of the other "dregs" I always assumed it was someone else. I just can't recognice the voice
For those wondering why Iguazu was labelled as irregular by AllMind - he was. Gen 4 is supposed to have emotional damage as well as earlier generations like V.III. It only ever makes you emotionally *withdrawn* normally. Iguazu is an anomaly in that his generation 4 surgery actually made him susceptible to his emotions; to the point of him experiencing psychosis in extreme amounts of stress (when he accuses you of laughing at him several times). I'm guessing with the cut voice lines saying AllMind's synthesised Coral is activated by agitated human consciousness, she needed Iguazu specifically to use it. That latter part also makes it all the more scary. After AllMind kills you, she says she'll assimilate you into AllMind (much like actual Coral does, but with her synthesised variant). Looking at the clones of the Vespers that are dead, you can infer that all those clones fighting are the actual tormented/agitated souls of pilots you killed and are completely under her control.
I feel like Snail would have been a better choice for the one who fused with Allmind. He hated us with a passion, had his whole superiority complex, and for him, this might have felt like an even better upgrade than he could ever have gotten normally. Allmind tells us that he's planning to take us out, and this could be another one of it's plays. Stoking the fire of absolute disdain Snail has for us after beating him and ruining his plan, playing on his arrogance and making him believe that joining it was both an upgrade and a way to get his revenge. And then, when we finally shit in his cheerios yet again, he has an absolute meltdown as he realizes that even for all his upgrades, all his skill and his belief that he is simply BETTER than us and everyone around him, he dies to a rabid dog with a stolen callsign, and nobody will ever remember or care that he existed.
that's the difference. snail had a superiority complex and would be too proud to be subservient to allmind. his interests were always that he/arquebus come out on top. he would never agree to abandoning that goal and working for allmind. iguazu had the opposite. he doesn't care what happens. he, as he points out himself, "just want that damn freelancer dead" and is "willing to abandon his redgun pride" just to ensure it.
i swear if starfield somehow trumps baulders gate or this game for any award im gonna be mad. this game especially just feels top notch. your connection to ayre the many many unique dialogue from completely the missions in any order you want. the absolute god tier ambience and graphics
Next up first 1V1 with Rusty in Unknown territory survey. Includes the alt. Version, theres also a line thats quite hard to achieve (in my experience) if you can defeat rusty before Flatwell comes in
By all means, no. Also: in cut dialouge, ALLMIND says that brainwaves can function much the same as the Coral, so that's probably the radiance of Iguazu's salt.
I'm still stuck on this fight. I get close every now and then and I've changed my build up so many times to deal with the combat puzzle that is posed here but I'll admit that I feel like I'm hitting a hard skill issue with this fight. Allmind is such a menace to keep locked onto with how they weave in and out of all their reinforcements so much, I always end up just fighting my targeting system I never used hard lock on all game and now that I'm trying to use it on Allmind it still manages to constantly swap locks.
I genuinely feel kinda bad for Iguazu. Man spent years trying to prove himself, and while he *does* have actual, genuine talent, he's just too eager to cut his losses and bail when he thinks he's out of his league. But then he sees you, this no-name independent from the same generation as him and he sees nothing but his failures. He looks at Raven and sees nothing but how his excuses aren't excuses at all, just failings on his own part. He sees you climb the wall where he couldn't, where his friend died. He sees you defeat the Worm and earn Michigan's respect where he couldn't. He sees you come from nothing, a no-name merc that ends up becoming one of the dominant factors on the entire planet for good or ill.
And he thinks "That could have been me. That *should* have been me."
Iguazu is a Gen 4 just like Raven. When he's asking "What makes you special?!" he's not just asking why you're the protagonist, he's also asking why he couldn't have flown as high as you did when on paper, he's the same as you. I feel like Iguazu hates himself almost as much as he hates you. He might hate you *because* he hates himself so much.
yeah, it feels sort of a relfection of how someone who has their own failings and success come across someone who's just...... naturally better at everything than Iguazu is
he's whiney, he's a ass, and spiteful as hell, but that's what makes him human, and everyone looks at us as either sub-human, or more than just "a Human", like a symbol, or potential for the next evolution. he just saw us as the better human, someone he thinks got lucky at something to be able to do the shit they do now, and it pushes him to work towards destroying us, showing us and himself that even the most capable 4th gen pilot had their failings, and to ultimately prove to himself he was worth something.
in the end, it was his downfall, but he truely feels human with how the spite drives him, how it comes from his own insecurites, how he lets it destroy his own life for his ultimately meaningless goal. it truely feels like he's a good chance of what 621 had a chance of becoming if their circumstances were slightly different, if they landed in the hands of a corpo, or was less skilled, or simply never got the chance to take a really notable mission
Michigan did respect him
and his last words to end his tragic story :
"i always envied you.... the freelancer who had it all."
Omg, he just like me. He just like me fr.
@@mc-zb1mx yes, when Red Guns were talking shit about Iguazu, Michigan retorted with "Iguazu is worth a hundred of you"
I love that Iguazu overcame the contol of a powerful AI with pure, unadulterated salt.
Bro was so damn mad at everything around him that even the AI was like “Bro WTF-“
Bro literally go mad with new tech but still lose due to “skill issue”
I like that "save a spot for me in hell" line
He sounds so calm and collected, he sounds almost like a friend, he finally doesn't see you as this torn on his side, he sees you as an equal, he bested you, and now he doesn't mind sharing a chair with you in hell.
If he wasn't consume by hate and envy, we definitely could of been... buddies.
When Iguana did his final lunge when I finally killed him I was legitimately scared because I was on TWENTY ONE HP
Me too.
I tried to back dash out of instinct and fear
Same, I back dashed and started mag dumping
I used assualt armor and thought i vaporized him
Iguana 💀
I like how ALLMIND goes from trying to be supportive of Iguazu to giving up and calling him a mistake.
i expected a few things from this fight but ALLMIND telling Iguazu he was a fucking mistake is the top of the line for me.
She realised that she made a mistake choosing him to fight us lmao. But I guess she didn't have a choice. He was the only one she could manipulate due to their common interest of killing us
@@MaidenlessScrub not just that he's the only one left compatible, the only others were Suila and O'Keefe and they're dead and or didnt wanna join allmind
The you were a mistale legit got me killed because I crqcked ip
I actually laughed when that came up during the fight.
Honestly, I gotta respect Iguazu at this point. He managed to control an amalgamation of hundreds of other pilots and a super intelligent AI by sheer pettiness
Seeing Carla AND Walter’s remains just scattered in the cutscene was just grim.
That just made me feel like shit could not get any worse.
Especially when you look at both torsos and realize Allmind gouged out where the cockpit would be.
Where are the remains in the cutscene? I don't think I caught it
@@topjos12I believe at 0:14, that's the torso of Carla's AC. 0:20, we see Walter who is veeeeery dead. I vaguely remember someone mentioning how ALLMIND made sure to decimate the cockpits. Yeesh.
@@theguyyouleastexpect Walter's AC - specially, the *goddamn Institute-made weapon* that he fought us with in Liberator - is fucking *headless.* That drives home how screwed things are at this point.
My heart sank when i saw that, especially because my AC shares Walter’s torso
Iguazu could have been an absolute menace if he just wasn't so Jealous and Insecure
Maybe he’s jealous and insecure because he’s not an absolute menace.
He already is a menace, just not to 621
Thats the point of his character tho, a petty dick who wouldn't leave you the fuck alone till you died
His jealousy and insecurity is the only reason he made it so far
"I know how this goes, this is where that Grit of yours kick in", the guy literally know how he gonna lose.
Ironically he was the only one comparing himself to 621, Even after Iguazu left Red Guns Michigan was still defending him.
"G5 is worth 5 of you."
Michigan a real one.
@@teacupbirb4711 ”iguazu is worth a hundred of you, which means Albany, the merc is worth 20 of him”. -G1 “Hell On Four Legs” Michigan
@@roguewolf8545 My bad. Been a bit since I did the Redguns mission. Plus, my memory is kind of lacking nowadays.
@@teacupbirb4711 sorry for making seem like I was attacking you, I just really like the quote and wanted to take the opportunity to post it.
@@roguewolf8545 Don't worry about it, mate.
Iguazu’s salt is a power beyond comprehension
Average LOL players
Iguazu's salt was so strong he literally ejected Ayre and ALLMIND from the battlefield
At this point, you gotta wonder why Arquebus bother themselves with Coral …. Iguazu’s salt is the most potent energy source in the galaxy
@@biorobot2 What's hilarious is that there's cut dialogue stating that agitated brainwaves share similar properties with coral. We got Ayre, ALLMIND got Iguazu, but ALLMIND plugged Iguana in to the generator slot.
An argument between Iguazu and Morgott would surpass the Fires of Ibis.
Iguazu's, "I know how this goes. This is where that grit of yours kicks in." Is really nice. All those times he has fought us up to now, he really came to know the way we fight with such intimacy.
ALLMIND crunched all the numbers but nothing could have prepared her for the saltiest person in the world.
I love how their voices begin to mix together at some points, reminds me of nineball with iguazu as hustler one and allmind/Kate as the nest member
Also with the parallel of them attempting one final attack before losing their arm
I like it in phase 2.5, iquazu gets better sound quality when he syncs with 621.
Yeah, he talks about the ringing and interference. He literally has his 'main character' moment where he overpowers ALLMIND and Ayre to nullify the Coral Contact. Granted, at that point he's also sort of 'Coral' himself, but he's a single wave. He's not trying to scream against the entire ocean, you feel me? Two waves clashing against each other. Best way I can describe it is Ahsoka Ep. 5 where they listen to the waves and hear the undercurrent and how it sounds like lightsabers clashing.
It's also in phase 1 ("Who else will you kill?"), he sounded like a male ALLMIND when his voice cleared up.
"I always envied you. The freelancer who had it all."
621 was "inventory" in a human sous vide bag getting pulled out of cold storage shortly before the game started, first encountered Iguazu on the dam mission where 621 was regarded as some nobody to be babysat and only present because Michigan and Walter know each other, and has probably never met Iguazu face to face outside of their mechs. Iguazu's been out there making up an imaginary version of 621 to get mad at. He's some type of guy, alright.
621 was Introduced as an "Independent mercenary" and with the callsign "Raven", he had no idea 621 was just a tool bought at a discount.
But he knows that after the Dam mission, he gained recognition from G1 Michigan, something that Iguazu felt hard because he's been trying to prove himself to G1 for over 7 years, then this guy shows up and now everyone talks about him, he also lost his friend G4 volta trying to take the wall.
He knows the legend of Raven, the wall climber, the worm killer and he remembers he was a nobody just like him
I believe they are also both the same line of augmented human, which adds to his jealousy
You misunderstand. Iguazu doesnt think 621 "had it all" like he was some high roller living the good life. He understands that 621 is also a mercenary. But 621 has the skills, the luck, the connections, and the mental stability Iguazu doesnt. Hes always in the right place at the right time with the right skills to get the job done and make everyone love him. Iguazu is some poor gambler stuck paying off his debts to a guy who seems to not give a damn about him and mocks him and shouts at him every day, but Michigan seems to repsect 621 for some reason and never gives him shit, even when youre both on the same mission.
Its understandable why Iguazu was jealous.
@baval5 God, if only Iguazu managed to read Volta's last message, maybe he would've stuck around the RedGuns a bit longer
@@baval5 Despite Michigan talking down to Iguazu and Volta on mission, if you decide to assassinate Michigan it's revealed that he actually respects Iguazu quite a lot. Even after deserting the Redguns, Michigan still respects Iguazu to defend Iguazu's name when the Balam MT squad starts dissing him.
621's also in the same position Iguazu's in. The reason 621 had augmentation done on him was due to landing in a lot of debt. It's why Walter keeps promksing that finding the Coral will help 621 buy back his freedom and hopefully reverse the surgery done on him.
Did anyone else notice the other voice who said “Who else are you going to kill?” Is Sulla
It actually sounds like Rusty, since I’m pretty sure he said that in the Fires of Raven route
I doubt it. Pretty sure the devs ended up reusing voice actors a lot during this game. Which is fine, usually an AC pilot’s voice might pop up for a grunt or two.
@@yamnbam4346 nah, fromsoft dont operate like that.
@@anatoliasmercenary. they do for this game, Sulla’s voice pops up multiple times
Edit:
Lautrec and Patches also share a VA.
@@yamnbam4346it’s intended.
My favorite detail is that if he kills you, he doesn't gloat, he just delivers that "save me a spot in hell" line.
For a game that has characters with no faces, the emotional impact that just voices alone have is simply amazing. Both the English and Japanese VA's did a phenomenal job IMO, and no matter which one you pick for a playthrough they both hit hard.
that line from Iguazu sticks out quite a bit everytime I redo the fight
"You've killed me and not just once",
The fact AllMind during new game plus greets you differently than when you first start the game has me wondering if the NG+ isnt just NG+ but a form of simulation or timeloop, how would Iguazu know we(the player) has killed him multiple times, he doesnt say defeat he says kill implying he's talking about the original time in the depths and the final time against him and Snail
The only explanation that could explain it without the idea of a timeloop is that he's refering to all of the consciousness tied to AllMind in that moment, we know during the mission before coral convergence, Walter and Carla remark that they're fighting clones of the Vespers, so what if Iguazu is actually refering to the Combat data in the arena that AllMind is using to train Raven, one of them was Iguazu meaning we've destroyed him at least twice in that timeline of events, this would also include everyone else in the game and by that point timeloop or no timeloop you do kill quite a bit of people depending on your choices in missions
Either way its an odd piece of info the devs just have the character say and nothing else to call it out, not even Ayre reacts to it which makes me think its not supposed to be odd that he says that
Just to add in a type of crackhead theory.
What if the first playthrough of the game is the actual events of the world and every playthrough after that is a what if scenario. To try and figure out if there was a better way things could go after whichever of the two ending you went for. I mean think about it what's the difference between the first run and then the second one? The invintory and stats.
I too think that the first two playthroughs may have been simulations. We know Allmind can create hyper realistic simulations. Allmind also saves your arena progress through the playthroughs, and Kate is piloting the perfected Mind Alpha that you helped build in the NG+ playthrough.
Whats even more interesting is the fact that certain other characters like father dolmayen seem to be aware of the threat you pose to rubicon, either through the fires of raven ending or alea iacta est ending, makes me think that the whole "timeloop" thing has a lot to do with coral itself, and 621s ability to loop in time/see alternate futures has to do with corals "infinite potential", since hes the most perfect fourth gen augmented human, born purely from the desire to ascend humanity through the use of coral. Seeing as Coral is more or less inspired by the Dune Universes Spice, I really think its implied.
Personally I'm subscribing to the "NG and NG+ are simulations" theory too. Specifically because even just in NG++, Allmind seems to have a *ton* of very specific plans layed out already. Like knowing that Steel Haze Ortus will be piloted by Rusty and HAL will be piloted by Walter, as well as knowing ahead of time that Walter will be an obstruction to the plan, and the general talk about putting the various "factors" in place. Oh and the Mind models of course. Makes me think that Allmind has been running quite a few of these simulations solely in order to nail down a sequence of events that would lead to coral release, making small changes every time to see how things would play out differently.
Not to be boring, but I think he's just referring to ALLMIND as himself, now that he's part of a collective. When he mentions that there are "a lot of us inside me now. Dregs with a grudge", it feels less like he's talking about selves from past timelines, and more like he's talking about individuals that you killed during this timeline who were uploaded into ALLMIND afterwards. That would also explain why it's not explained further, and why Ayre doesn't mention anything about it; everyone involed knows that ALLMIND is a collective consciousness, so the idea of other pissed-off thoughtforms expressing a grudge through ALLMIND-Iguazu doesn't seem too out of place.
I like how in every other sequence your build was different. Like you had to swap your entire AC for every extra bit of dialogue.
Yeah, this boss is easy to rush down, but harder to slowly kill. Phase 2.5 the lighter builds couldnt get all the dialogue before I died. I also do try different builds for triggering dialogue like flamethrowers or missiles for killing the five ACs at the start slowly for any dialogue triggers.
4:25 he briefly channeled his inner Michigan
Iguazu just like the player who fond out the mute button at the end of the game
I won't stand for Iguazu slander. My man overturned Allmind's control with sheer force of will (and salt), most of the times he fought against 621 he heard Ayre buzzing in his head and no matter how salty it is, I have to respect such astounding level of bitterness,that's imhuman. Most people would make themselves coffee and cake and forget about the time that one jerk surpassed you on the lane, NOT IGUAZU
He’s really funny and interesting, I never knew i was a sucker for REALLY grumpy rivals, but I ain’t praising people for holding life-ruining grudges.
That final attack when Iguazu was about to die, really scared the hell out of me when I first beat him. I almost died myself so didn't take chances and dodged, but I guess it was not necessary.
Same i pressed every attack button and quick boost backwards
LoL when i see that i immediately do the vertical slash from coral blade and it fit perfectly with the explosion which look very epic.
I’ve known people like him, people who let bitterness take hold and control their entire lives.
One of them is in prison now. Their are definitely varying degrees of envy and hatred. And Iguazu was the worst of both. Great character, I really despised him
I love how allmind is actually holding iguazu back in this fight. The moment he takes full control he immediately starts hitting 621 with new moves like he already knew them. He controls the modified Ibis machine with a grace and ferocity unseen in the first phase. Not to mention mind gamma is just straight up iguazu’s original ac build upgraded. So he clearly had the skills and function to be a high ranker only thing holding him back was his mental condition and fears.
My favorite part is at the beginning; the ALLMIND AC is looking up at the finish line to their goal and the music is kind of ethereal, but when it turns around and Iguazu starts speaking, the music drops like your stomach when you start falling.
His hate boner for Six-Two-One is almost remarkable. It is the source of his entire power.
It also powers his IB-07 AND Sea Spiders. That's some Gurren Lagann shit gone wrong.
When I first started the 3rd play through, I figured Allmind would go Hulster 1 on my ass with Kate Markson, but Fromsoft really exceeded my expectations and gave me Iguazu: The Salt of Rubicon
The actually funniest part of this fight is when you destroy the Mind Gamma in the first phase and the SOL 644 just comes in and crashes on top of it.
Phase 3 is the scariest thing FromSoft has ever made. Nothing puts me in panic mode more than Iguazu going melee
Was I the only one who burst out laughing when I got to the super, secret, final boss and it turned out to be that salty Red Gun that I’d already folded like 5 times?
Same here. Just went "??? Say what dawg" 😭 Genuinely hysterical how random this was lol
Yeah i just went "oh no HIM AGAIN?"
This was tottaly something i was not expecting
Even funnier when you find out the reason he's here is because it's his Salty Ass that's powering the SOL unit in Phase 2.
Him working with ALLMIND was pretty foreshadowed. In the briefing for the mission to kill O'Keefe, they show that there are two gen 4 candidates. The only other gen 4 candidate we knew of was Iguazu.
There's also the fact that when Iguazu attacks you in Depth 2 and Institute City, his AC has been modified with ALLMIND parts, meaning he was working with them for a while already.
@@Master_Matoya He literally overpowered the will of an advanced AI with nothing but pure salt. There is a part of me that is amazed at his sheer pettiness.
Calling him Iguana got a good laugh out of me
Why do people call him Iguana? I thought it was misspelled like people call Malenia by Malena, Melia, Melina,.. but is this an intended joke?
@@Tetsainyaintentionally spelling his name wrong is the joke, to add even more disrespect to him
Iguazu the Iguana
Well the VA of Iguazu is the same as Tartaglia from Genshin Impact.
Tortilla and Iguana's personalities are weirdly similar, although guava has that pettiness and beta energy cranked up to eleven.
Also, Tartar has a similar history of people changing his name for shits n giggles.
No wonder he sounds like Childe
"You were... A mistake Iguazu" is still my favorite line in this game
I love how Iguazu goes for that last attack in his death animation. Trying to pull an "I'm taking you with me" is so in character for him.
Pretty sure it's the same animation as ayres sol boss
@@Jetstreamsamsbiggestglazerno, these animations are different. Ayre has the "reach" animation with just her hand as she still believes you won't do the unthinkable. While Iguazu activates his energy claws and charges at you.
The last shot of the phase two cutscene is so good
Iguana: I created you and you created me.
Ayre: Raven, why did you create this guy?
I really respect the time it takes to put these together.
Nicely done and thank you!
“Well, there is a whole lot of us inside me now. Dregs with a grudge.
So tell me.
Who else are going to kill?” - Allmind
That has to be the coldest line in this game
i dont think any game will ever make me feel the same feelings as i felt for iguazu. he is pathetic, embarrassing, and probably one of my favorite enemies in any medium. a revenant hell bent on getting revenge because someone was slightly better than him. igazu is probably my favorite from soft character
"Slightly" is a big understatement here.
"Slightly", the said person solos an entire planet.
For some reason, I always found it funny how phase 2 allmind landed on phase 1 allmind like that. hard to explain
thing about this boss fight for me, it was the hardest one I DIDN'T feel the need to bust out the dual zimmer- needle build to beat. finally felt like my skill caught up to my AC and I proceeded to turn ALLMIND's most powerful into scrap
Despite he’s petulance i reeeeeally like that Iguazu got his own main character moment in the second phase of the second half of the fight when he hijacks Allmind’s whole rig. I’ll shut you all up indeed
Its his first win in the whole story. When players actually pay attention to his character that moment is undeniably compelling.
Hey! So I commented the other day about how these videos help with sensory issues. Today I was struggling with this fight and, emboldened by the assurance of your videos, I just turned voice volume to 0 and subtitles off. I beat it on my next attempt! Unfortunately, I didn't hear the cutscene dialogue either, but that's why I'm here! So, Thanks Again!
Interested to know what Allmind meant by ‘Creations potential’ at the end there
I think ALLMIND was just poetic there, calling humanity... well... creation's potential. It was just sad, that in the end, it wasn't up to it in what way that potential comes to fruition through Coral.
She's talking about human merging with coral, creating a new "creation" that has great potential. That's why she wants coral release.
ALLMIND is kinda similar to 9ball in previous AC games. An AI whose purpose is to guide humanity, albeit its own way.
@@xxxotakuxxx983 Nineball and its associates kept humanity alive through engineered stalemate wars. ALLMIND is 'benevolent' in how she's trying to throw out the entire board and change what it means to be 'human' to hopefully evolve us past these pointless wars we keep getting into every few hundred years, judging by the AC timeline.
@@xxxotakuxxx983So basically it's Third Impact and Human Instrumentality Project in a way but instead it turns people into coral. FromSoft really likes taking inspiration from other series
@@napalminthemorning1677 im not so sure about turning into coral thing, the true ending is way too ambigious on what it is all truly about more than the two other endings...
Atleast with the other two you get some confirmation on what would likely happen...but the true ending is the die being cast and still rolling...
From the start to the end I felt like why is he going to such lengths to kill me? Just because he couldnt win in a 1v1 twice? But then in the end when he died. It all made sense.... and it made me like Iguazu's character.
Iguazu really tapped into one percent of an average league of legends players salt
Having a 00001 health and not being dead should be an achievement
Terminal Armor core expansion leaves your AC with 1 AP.
"I know how this goes, this is where that grit of yours kicks in." had that line play just as we traded blows and he only lost becuase terminal armor went off leaving me at 1
6:47 "This is it... This isn't over... It's time... A SQUIRREL!"
“Once something’s alive, it doesn’t die easy.”
I don't know precisely why I found Iguazu so touching, I just have a soft spot for chronic losers like him. In a world full of dangerous foes and pushovers acting like they're a menace, you get this guy who's just doing his best and yearns for glory while constantly being set up by the story to be the butt of the joke. He's like Gilgamesh in FF5, or Biggs and Wedge in FF8, comic reliefs that lighten up the atmosphere, except he genuinely suffers from it, and gets a complete life crisis from encountering 621. Worsened by the fact they both are from the same generation of augmented humans.
From all the characters in AC6, he's the only one you really get to pity, and that made him grow on me. You can't help but root for this guy, he's got that complete underdog energy. And the most exciting thing with underdogs is when they finally get their minute of glory, their payback time, their instant of redemption, going up in flames before dying for good.
Man I love Iguazu.
It's because he was truly human. He was pety, spiteful, and arrogant. He saw everything you did and thought, "Why isn't that me?" Both of you are fourth gens (debateably in his case) and you did everything he couldn't. You won the missions he couldn't. He thought you had it all, but all you truly have is determenation to keep going. He had the support, the fame, the money, all of it except for confidence. He could have been so much more, if he wasn't afraid to die. If he had given up fear or got confident sooner, he could very likely have done everything we did. He's one of the few who I truly believe had the potential to be a Raven. Iguazu threw it all away just because of his hatred of you. In the end, he admits he admired and was jealous of you.
Iguzau was so eager to beat 621 that he uploaded himself into AI overlord, blocked said AI overlord through sheer rage and is the only one in the whole game trying to charge at you while being on the brink of death. Iguazu is petty and envious, but his determination and desperation are not to be matched.
I'm really curious about Iguazus "you killed me" part. Specifically when he says "who else are you going to kill?" the line becomes much clearer and also may change voices? Why does it become clearer and if its not Iguazu saying it, who is? Rusty? Sulla?
Well, most of character in this route basicly already dead and integrated to All Mind data.
It's because he ends up syncing with 621, like Ayre did.
Pretty sure that's rusty's voice
@@Jawich45 Thats what I thought too, and it would be in character for him
It’s Sulla’s voice. If it was Rusty he would have ended it with “buddy”
There’s another comment saying something about ALLMIND calling iguana useless - the timestamp for that is 5:28
Allmind finally realizing it/her mistake about choosing Iguazu fucking kill me lmao
I'm confused, so does Iguazu still have his human body, or is his mind just part of the AI now, like does it actually explain how All Mind just absorbs people?
Basically allmind absorbs anyone who is coral infused and simulate the rest. We killed Sulla, her agent, and the other one is not onboard with what she's doing, so that leaves iguazu and 621
Everyone who had coral augmentation AND was linked up to the AllMind became part of it the moment they die, as the Coral essentially reads the data of their experiences before AllMind incorporates it into it's system. Iguazu has 2 places he could've died. Once during our descent into Depth 2 when he ambushes us, and again when we ambush V.2 Snail during the NG++ route. Since he had coral augmentation, either one of those places would've sufficed, though since he says we killed him twice? It means that the canonical routing for this game needs us to have faced him in Depth 2 and won. He then gets uploaded to AllMind, which allows him to pilot his old mech as a 'ghost'. That or he means we killed him in a metaphorical sense, either by proxy of all the other guys we murdered in that route or "killing his ambition" by continually outshining him.
"I'll kill you AND the freelancer"
Iguazu, you just signed your death warrant.
To be fair, he's already dead.
Wait, ALLMIND/Iguana got missing lines just like O'Keeffe? What are the lines?
Its nothing crazy(the event trigger ids were inside this missions block of dialogue so I assume they were meant for this one.):
i.imgur.com/lWJeInt.png
@@GreyCaliber Oh, very interesting. It seems that ALLMIND was banking on Iguazu's hatred toward 621 to pilot that Ibis mech to its full potential. Literally harvesting the power of his salt, incredible.
@@JackNewbie555 and it worked, with his salt he was able to eject Ayre and AllMind from the battlefield during phase 2, her plan worked a little too well
@@sdbzfan1 ALLMIND : "I am a genius!"
**Iguana activate Salt Armor**
ALLMIND : "Oh no!"
5:35 that sure is his name
Shame we can't get the parts from phase-2 Allmind.
Really fancy that emerald-turquoise energy.
That emerald-turquoise energy is actually Iguazu's brainvaves. The dude's hate boner for you is literally the power source for SOL 644.
The music in this whole sequence was just phenomenal.
My initial thoughts when I fought him:
“Bruh seriously this loser? lmao”
Seeing how the final battle is one big boss rush kinda makes me feel bad now that I'm on new game +
At the last phase its super hard to listen to the voice lines as iguana goes on drug and charges with melee no matter where you are
I remember first experiencing this and for the first line I thought it Suila before realizing that oh it was whiny Iguazu
Sometimes i feel like iguazu, so bitter and jealous that it completely overpowers all other feelings.
Your AC looks so sick !!
I have a question. At 1:47, Iguazu sounded like he's using another voice. Was that his own or someone else's?
Pretty sure its Sulla. Both because it sounds like him but the nature of the question "who else are you gonna kill" is very reminiscent of Sulla saying stuff like "was it 617 that I killed last?"
I was ready to Go down with him when he lunged at me strictly because I respected his struggle.
He represents all Soulsborne players struggling to beat the boss by any means
Man he’s like J from verdict day the final boss called n-wigx/V but 2.0
More like Stinger from Project Phantasma or ACLR Evangel.
@@metalgearexcelsus I've been thinking that for some time now. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
So he became a single wave of coral
The Only Reason Iguazu Lost Is That He Isn't Hating Enough On 621 Like Kendrick Lamar To Drake 💀💀
Iguazu really is the Jerid Messa of AC6.
More like J from verdict day
@@kevingame3198 more like Stinger and Evangel from old-gen.
Or Crimson 1 from Project Wingman.
Iguana blocked allmind through pure hate lmao
The HC-2000/BC Shade Eye is the best looking head component.
It even has special animation when on Lock on and Lock Off state.
Fair opinion. However, I'm more a fan of the Nachtreiher head piece.
@@HiroyaFujimiya it also does that when you Boost
Im an Alba guy myself. Shade eye is super cool tho.
Nah, the patlabor looking one sulla uses is the best. That one's cool but i wish the eyes glowed brighter before the visor comes down.
Walter and carla dying off screen is unforgivable
I’ve been trying to figure out whose voice says “who else are going to kill?”.
It's still Iguazu. the voice filter just changes for that part.
It’s the voices inside of iguazu/Allmind. Allmind combined the psyches of different mercenaries into the ultimate A/C, many of those psyches belonging to the people we killed.
"ILL SEE YOU IN HELL!"
"Save a spot for me."
-Jango Fett at the end of his final Duel with Montross
I'm not sure, but "So tell me. Who else are you going to kill?" doesn't sound like Iguazu's voice. If anything, I think it sounds like Chatty. Might just be the filter.
I always assumed the tone shift was a result of Iguazu further fusing with Allmind. Much like in the cinematic for phase two where his voice is far clearer, but it's still him
Not sure if this is a thing, but are there lines for mirroring your opponents ACs? As in using their exact parts or even loading the same data from the arena for missions where you sortie together or go against?
There are, yes.
Oh cool, time to do so mirror matches in mission select.
I literally use this specific mission to test out new AC builds i find on YT or via share code or just a warmup before i play through the entire game again
5:35 iguana
I always wondered who the other voice at 1:46 is? Is it just Iguazu but over a different kind of speaker? It doesn't really sound like him and from the context of the other "dregs" I always assumed it was someone else. I just can't recognice the voice
90% sure its sulla.
That a beautiful color scheme. Can you share the paint edit numbers?
Bro thinks he’s Crimson 1
For those wondering why Iguazu was labelled as irregular by AllMind - he was. Gen 4 is supposed to have emotional damage as well as earlier generations like V.III. It only ever makes you emotionally *withdrawn* normally. Iguazu is an anomaly in that his generation 4 surgery actually made him susceptible to his emotions; to the point of him experiencing psychosis in extreme amounts of stress (when he accuses you of laughing at him several times). I'm guessing with the cut voice lines saying AllMind's synthesised Coral is activated by agitated human consciousness, she needed Iguazu specifically to use it.
That latter part also makes it all the more scary. After AllMind kills you, she says she'll assimilate you into AllMind (much like actual Coral does, but with her synthesised variant). Looking at the clones of the Vespers that are dead, you can infer that all those clones fighting are the actual tormented/agitated souls of pilots you killed and are completely under her control.
I feel like Snail would have been a better choice for the one who fused with Allmind. He hated us with a passion, had his whole superiority complex, and for him, this might have felt like an even better upgrade than he could ever have gotten normally. Allmind tells us that he's planning to take us out, and this could be another one of it's plays. Stoking the fire of absolute disdain Snail has for us after beating him and ruining his plan, playing on his arrogance and making him believe that joining it was both an upgrade and a way to get his revenge.
And then, when we finally shit in his cheerios yet again, he has an absolute meltdown as he realizes that even for all his upgrades, all his skill and his belief that he is simply BETTER than us and everyone around him, he dies to a rabid dog with a stolen callsign, and nobody will ever remember or care that he existed.
that's the difference. snail had a superiority complex and would be too proud to be subservient to allmind. his interests were always that he/arquebus come out on top. he would never agree to abandoning that goal and working for allmind. iguazu had the opposite. he doesn't care what happens. he, as he points out himself, "just want that damn freelancer dead" and is "willing to abandon his redgun pride" just to ensure it.
@alaberti Isn't Rusty also part of that because when you beat O'keeffe he says "see you on the other side Rusty"
@alaberti maybe he's the reason Rusty gets his upgraded AC?
Is that a laser claw?! I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!
Absolute cinema
i swear if starfield somehow trumps baulders gate or this game for any award im gonna be mad. this game especially just feels top notch. your connection to ayre the many many unique dialogue from completely the missions in any order you want. the absolute god tier ambience and graphics
Armored core not starfield
@@samnunnink7575learn to read
Iguazu, truely the man of 'Skill Issue' who need to just 'git gud'
Iguazu is a League of Legends player
I wish we could get his sword or AC parts for killing him
Next up first 1V1 with Rusty in Unknown territory survey.
Includes the alt. Version, theres also a line thats quite hard to achieve (in my experience) if you can defeat rusty before Flatwell comes in
Why does Flatwell side with Rusty? What was his connection with Rusty?
@@diurnalwinter945
Hint Uncle
@diurnalwinter945 rusty is an RLF spy
well, that’s one way to treat schizophrenia
3:30 are those kojima particles????????
By all means, no.
Also: in cut dialouge, ALLMIND says that brainwaves can function much the same as the Coral, so that's probably the radiance of Iguazu's salt.
Ew
Could be a reference
I'm still stuck on this fight. I get close every now and then and I've changed my build up so many times to deal with the combat puzzle that is posed here but I'll admit that I feel like I'm hitting a hard skill issue with this fight. Allmind is such a menace to keep locked onto with how they weave in and out of all their reinforcements so much, I always end up just fighting my targeting system I never used hard lock on all game and now that I'm trying to use it on Allmind it still manages to constantly swap locks.