So many things about this amused me just because of my work. I recently had required training on Kube and OpenShift for work. No idea why it was required, because I deal in HARDWARE; my team don't touch the software side of things, but for some reason it was still required. That warning about AMD on Lenovo and Dell (Lenovo in particular) also made me laugh, because we have Lenovo and SuperMicro at work, and that was something I was told very early on; check if we have chips that have seen Lenovo already before just grabbing one if it's Epyc and Lenovo. So many things on the L1 channels that are adjacent to work. (Fun fact; I was watching a review on the Epyc Milan processors when I was offered the job!)
Interesting to see if it turns into a SNO server or as you mentioned a cluster of nodes. Some of the bare metal stuff has scared me around monitoring but the pricing redhat has on bare metal is impressive vs cores. Cannot wait to see where this ends up with kubevirt and ceph.
“You want to buy this just to show your boss something” Son, in local county government, this is our entire production. Oh and it better last 12 years because you’re not getting anymore money for a long time.
Just an FYI, Lenovo seems to be platform locking their Ryzen processors in their Thinkcentre lineup. I've got a Thinkcentre M75Q gen2, that 4750G processor wont work in another board, and when i tried to swap in a 4650G it warned me that if i proceed it would be platform locked
@@MrOne2watch Pretty sure its an FPGA that self destructs, STH went over it in their article, once inserted into the OEM system and PSB enabled, it will not work in another brand of motherboard. Fortunately, the consumer boards at least give you a warning that this will prevent the CPU from working in another computer and give you a chance to remove the processor before booting. The problem is this makes testing the same CPU in different motherboards impossible, because after it goes from all of the aftermarket boards like Asus, Gigabyte, or Asrock, you have to choose one last vendor, Dell, HP, or Lenovo, because it cant be moved into others after that. And it cant be loved back into the Asus, Gigabyte ect boards
Honestly I found a 8 bay dell r720 that support 3.5 drives I elected to pick it up since it was &160 and it was a complete unit. For a homelab that primarily acts as a file server it's more than enough.
Totally agree. I have an R720, plus a Ryzen 3900x + x470d4u that I'm swapping out to Epyc 7001 so I can pilfer the 3900x for my personal rig. The R720 has been more than enough for almost everything I threw at it.
Not a fan of Podman right now. There is this issue that sometimes after stopping a container, the containers storage doesn't properly unmount. Then you can't restart the container unless you edit config under /var/lib/containers/storage or stop all running containers and then blow away that folder. It is really annoying and as far as I can tell, seems to be random. If you use Podman long enough you will run into it.
8¨27 which adapter is this? Does it support m.2 sata or nvme and which type of brand would you recommend with PLP protection. I am not aware of a M.2 sata one with that kind of features
Well redundancy still is a thing with storage server :) cluster compute nodes still share a storage server if you don’t have a SAN you better want it redundant af ;)
I loved using Openshift and was VERY childish in meetings revolving around moving to EKS/Rancher. I'm still pretty upset by the move (It's been over a year now). So much QoL goodness in Openshift.
You can turn any k8s distro into a pretty decent approximation of Openshift, especially if you don't want the automatic deployment/upgrade features from 4.0. But the UI, monitoring and storage stack can all be deployed on upstream easily enough. I have a fork of the console nudged to behave better on upstream as well.
can the fans be replaced with Noctua for silence ? is it possbile to only utilise your own cloud and not rely at all on third party cloud infrastructure ?
You're lucky they just announced that OpenShift 4 will be installable on a single node. Originally, the minimal install was 5 nodes. I just run it all in VMs at home to test out changes to customer installs.
Wow.. just learned that apparently the dev subscription is allowed to be used in production? Thanks for that! Yet., “individual production use” again something no one will understand
All about openshift and run k8s and openshift clusters but I’m not spending epyc server prices for a home-lab. Nothing mentioned is a deal or low cost for a multi-node cluster homelab. SMB, sure…but not home-lab.
What's wrong with redhat? 30 years ago it and FreeBSD were always recommended 🤣 I used to dual boot it with windows 2000 for work because I was avoiding windows 98. That was about the time vlc had a built in exploited back door and winuke went obsolete. I had 3 ancient bulletproof servers running back then also, I think you might remember them.
I used to favor CentOS for servers that I knew wouldn't see a lot of change, because the yum repos were so limited that I had confidence that yum update wouldn't break anything. But I jumped ship when IBM bought Redhat. I'm a long-time AIX admin, and I knew they would kill CentOS as soon as they possibly could. All our new stuff is being deployed on Ubuntu 20.04. FU IBM.
Seems like a long commercial for AMD EPYC. Big stretch comparing one overpriced and very high end gaming motherboard to the lowest end epyc motherboard, and then using that as justification to recommend buyers avoid Intel for the homelab and buy Epyc instead. 16c/32t Intel 2683v4 is less than $200, where's the AMD equivalent? First gen Epyc is way more expensive, same goes for older Threadripper.
Can't wait for the videos you guys dive into OpenShift. Love the hardware videos but more software like OpenShift, k8s and OpenStack would be awesome.
and let's not forget Kube Invaders - there's no way around that one.
OpenShift = k8s
So many things about this amused me just because of my work. I recently had required training on Kube and OpenShift for work. No idea why it was required, because I deal in HARDWARE; my team don't touch the software side of things, but for some reason it was still required. That warning about AMD on Lenovo and Dell (Lenovo in particular) also made me laugh, because we have Lenovo and SuperMicro at work, and that was something I was told very early on; check if we have chips that have seen Lenovo already before just grabbing one if it's Epyc and Lenovo. So many things on the L1 channels that are adjacent to work. (Fun fact; I was watching a review on the Epyc Milan processors when I was offered the job!)
Thanks
thank you!!
Love this!!
Can’t wait to hear about OpenShift!! Thank you Wendell and L1 as always
6:12 Dell is insane with that requirement. Won't even consider a brand with that kind of vendor lock-in tendencies.
Interesting to see if it turns into a SNO server or as you mentioned a cluster of nodes. Some of the bare metal stuff has scared me around monitoring but the pricing redhat has on bare metal is impressive vs cores. Cannot wait to see where this ends up with kubevirt and ceph.
3:10 I recently cleaned the stock at work and we have thrown piles of those RX1220, 1260, PowerVu IRDs.
Awesome can't wait for those videos! ^^ especially kubevirt is pretty cool on OpenShift!
“You want to buy this just to show your boss something”
Son, in local county government, this is our entire production. Oh and it better last 12 years because you’re not getting anymore money for a long time.
I would love some more insights on podman :D your last video was a teaser wanting to know more
Wendell, what is it that you do with all those servers? Just test for the sake of videos, or is there a side hustle?
Just an FYI, Lenovo seems to be platform locking their Ryzen processors in their Thinkcentre lineup. I've got a Thinkcentre M75Q gen2, that 4750G processor wont work in another board, and when i tried to swap in a 4650G it warned me that if i proceed it would be platform locked
This is bad news, but why are they doing it. Is this a security feature or something?
@@aladdin8623 No, because you can just swap in a new processor, its just that once its there, it cant be moved to a different manufacturer
i wonder if there is a way to reset the cpu in the bios.
@@MrOne2watch Pretty sure its an FPGA that self destructs, STH went over it in their article, once inserted into the OEM system and PSB enabled, it will not work in another brand of motherboard. Fortunately, the consumer boards at least give you a warning that this will prevent the CPU from working in another computer and give you a chance to remove the processor before booting.
The problem is this makes testing the same CPU in different motherboards impossible, because after it goes from all of the aftermarket boards like Asus, Gigabyte, or Asrock, you have to choose one last vendor, Dell, HP, or Lenovo, because it cant be moved into others after that. And it cant be loved back into the Asus, Gigabyte ect boards
@@MrOne2watch it's an e-fuse
Just subscribed my guy! You remind me of an old mentor of mine when I first got started in the it world a decade ago
I currently use fedora/cockpit/pod man. Would like to know more bout OpenShift tho.
Honestly I found a 8 bay dell r720 that support 3.5 drives I elected to pick it up since it was &160 and it was a complete unit.
For a homelab that primarily acts as a file server it's more than enough.
Totally agree. I have an R720, plus a Ryzen 3900x + x470d4u that I'm swapping out to Epyc 7001 so I can pilfer the 3900x for my personal rig.
The R720 has been more than enough for almost everything I threw at it.
Yes, this is a different tier of "homelab".
Not a fan of Podman right now. There is this issue that sometimes after stopping a container, the containers storage doesn't properly unmount. Then you can't restart the container unless you edit config under /var/lib/containers/storage or stop all running containers and then blow away that folder.
It is really annoying and as far as I can tell, seems to be random. If you use Podman long enough you will run into it.
My dear friend. You cant tease me with hardware like this :)
Wtf is that CPU marrying nonsense, that's nuts!
I would really appreciate a link to that M.2x4 half height expansion card!
Vote up, keep it up, thank you for sharing it :)
8¨27 which adapter is this? Does it support m.2 sata or nvme and which type of brand would you recommend with PLP protection. I am not aware of a M.2 sata one with that kind of features
Isn't redhat still part of big blue?
Well redundancy still is a thing with storage server :) cluster compute nodes still share a storage server if you don’t have a SAN you better want it redundant af ;)
I loved using Openshift and was VERY childish in meetings revolving around moving to EKS/Rancher. I'm still pretty upset by the move (It's been over a year now). So much QoL goodness in Openshift.
You can turn any k8s distro into a pretty decent approximation of Openshift, especially if you don't want the automatic deployment/upgrade features from 4.0. But the UI, monitoring and storage stack can all be deployed on upstream easily enough. I have a fork of the console nudged to behave better on upstream as well.
"Treating servers more like cattle than pets"
(shocked pickacku face)
Have you looked at the Epyc ES chips that can be turbo unlocked? You can get Epyc rome with 32 Cores for ~500-700
Wendell, time to take a look at Harvester for HCI from SUSE/Rancher?
can the fans be replaced with Noctua for silence ? is it possbile to only utilise your own cloud and not rely at all on third party cloud infrastructure ?
Yes. Yes.
@@RickMyBalls thanks was thinking of building home server set up would you consider doing a home build openshift video?
Don’t spend 300$ for an old server - the $3000 (old) Epyc server makes more sense. Or something
It's too expensive for a home lab, yet too unsupported for a professional deployment.
The tabs with with anime girls and waifu are the best
Great , wating for openshift vids
Great stuff. cant wait for more.
You're lucky they just announced that OpenShift 4 will be installable on a single node. Originally, the minimal install was 5 nodes. I just run it all in VMs at home to test out changes to customer installs.
I wish i had an EPYC Server,
Oh the game it would host.
it would be EPIC !!
Hope your hand is okay!
Wow.. just learned that apparently the dev subscription is allowed to be used in production? Thanks for that!
Yet., “individual production use” again something no one will understand
I'm super excited about OpenShift. I really like OpenShift and the conveniences and quality of life improvements it brings over vanilla Kubernetes ♥️
Home lab yey
You should try out Openshift running on coreos.
Does Wendell ever use those vertical monitors?
Yeah, can't you see the sweet wallpapers?
All about openshift and run k8s and openshift clusters but I’m not spending epyc server prices for a home-lab. Nothing mentioned is a deal or low cost for a multi-node cluster homelab. SMB, sure…but not home-lab.
more videos on openshift and k8s would be great ;D
out of curiosity, what are you guys using openshift for?
Was hoping to see you get into OpenShift and not the hardware.. Hope you will get it in the future.
What's wrong with redhat? 30 years ago it and FreeBSD were always recommended 🤣
I used to dual boot it with windows 2000 for work because I was avoiding windows 98.
That was about the time vlc had a built in exploited back door and winuke went obsolete.
I had 3 ancient bulletproof servers running back then also, I think you might remember them.
Not super happy with the recommendation not to get an old server for hundreds and instead get a server for thousands of dollars.
Why don't you cry about it?
What part of this showed off openshift?
I used to favor CentOS for servers that I knew wouldn't see a lot of change, because the yum repos were so limited that I had confidence that yum update wouldn't break anything. But I jumped ship when IBM bought Redhat. I'm a long-time AIX admin, and I knew they would kill CentOS as soon as they possibly could. All our new stuff is being deployed on Ubuntu 20.04. FU IBM.
IBM had nothing to do with the move of CentOS to CentOS Stream. That was already in place before the merger.
Finally!!!
HPE does NOT do the cpu locking
Still have no idea what Openshift is 🤣
It's basically just Red Hat's distro of Kubernetes
I was hoping for more information about openshift
Sponsor by redhat?
Seems like a long commercial for AMD EPYC. Big stretch comparing one overpriced and very high end gaming motherboard to the lowest end epyc motherboard, and then using that as justification to recommend buyers avoid Intel for the homelab and buy Epyc instead. 16c/32t Intel 2683v4 is less than $200, where's the AMD equivalent? First gen Epyc is way more expensive, same goes for older Threadripper.
"checking out red hat openshift" only talks about hardware in the whole video...
Very convenient of you to drop the "server" part from the title.
Why the cringe at the name RedHat? They’ve done so much in the past several years.
Probably the IBM buyout and the cancelation of CentOs
i need you to build okd4 on rdo on xcp-ng on baremetal
or maybe kolla, kind of thinking rdo undercloud then use kolla for overcloud, but that sounds like asking to be cursed