@GazB230 sure, but "so many" doesnt mean all and "loads" doesnt mean none. I mean this guy just said he had Scotland and Ireland going through in the group. How many people said Ireland and France would be the Final, including this guy? To get that you have to have France beating NZ *and* Ireland beating South Africa *and* Ireland beating NZ *and* France beating South Africa. Sounds very much like underestimating to me. And it happens every time
To be fair the bookies actually agreed with these guys winning in the knockouts, only the scotish going through was a bit of a edgy call. That being said i still think any individual is more likely to choose a team from their hemisphere as they watch them more... rather the devil you know i suppose.
@@cinramscott9160 you can definitely see bias in all supporters. I agree with that. As far as the bookies go I dont follow betting odds. Would those not be influenced by the biases of the people betting? I was following rugby websites and, later, the rugby vision predictions. The algorithms i saw had NZ and SA as favourites. The websites generally leaned towards France or SA. People like Clive Woodward were predicting complete NH dominance. Again.
Not only did SA get beaten by IRE, but their win over France was only because the referee made critical mistakes. (Ignoring NZs wrongly given try against Ire). So saying they'd win the WC was obvious when the differences amounted to were inches, is simply SA fans wallowing in their own BS.
@@andrewkelly7799"mere inches" works both ways. The realistic view prior to the world cup was that it was too closeto call because of "mere inches". The last games between France or Ireland and South Africa were a matter of "mere inches". France against 14 players won by a controversial try that couldnt be checked because the ref had lost comms to the TMO. Ireland was also a very close game. Neither game warranted the confidence some in the NH had that they could do it again. And here we are . SA won and NZ were the other finalists.
I think your predictions were fairly solid. But you know the Bokke. In 1995 I bought the first ever SA Rugby magazine. I was a student with no money but I entered a competition to guess the winner of every match at the tournament. I sent in my entry (much to my girlfriends disgust as we were broke) and a few months later found out that I won the competition (a brand new TV & VCR). That girlfriend forgave me and is now my wife of 30 years. GO BOKKE!!
Ireland are scandalous. They always try to cheat and came with that mindset to the W Cup ! First match v Romenië 11 illegal side entries before 12 of their tries. Illegal double banking in line-outs before tries by Gibson-Park and penalty try v NZ. Also Jordie Barrett held ball up in NZ ingoal area after illegal line-out. The world of rugby does not need cheats like Iteland to be world champions. It would put the game in disrepute. Quite a dishonor able scandalous approach and Ireland should be ashamed of themselves. Disgusting !!!
The major problem that the NH teams experience is not skill or belief or any lack of talent.. It is the continued and consistent belief by their fans and media that they are OWED Rugby World Cup success. When either Wales or Ireland or France have been successful they are built up to be the team (or teams) that will end SH dominance and "bring back Rugby". SH Rugby is then written off, either in total or at least with the exception of the All Blacks. My humble opinion: NH Rugby is simply not as good as it percieves itself to be. It doesn't compete on the same level as SH Rugby. The sooner the NH accepts this and goes to work fixing it, the sooner they WILL be competing for World Cups.
There is no problem with NH Rugby and they are as good as the South if not better, SH players flock up to the north to play their club rugby, we pay their salaries and train them and they compete along side northern players and represent northern clubs. Ireland have beat SA twice and NZ twice in their 17 game winning streak. Munster also won the URC. Ireland just lost the QF by small margins, there is no particular reason why, there is no curse, there is no nothing, they just lost on the day, NZ showed up. Their run came to an end. thats it. if Ireland played the game again tomorrow the result would be different. To say the North isn't as "good as they perceive itself to be" is ridiculous, its you trying to get a sly dig into the northern Hem rugby and countries. The wrong bounce of the ball doesn't make a team bad, The four top teams are as good as each other but someone has to win. thats it, thats how close these games were. Ireland also play in a style other teams won't even attempt as its so difficult. show some respect. Not to mention the U20s world cup final was by two Northern hemisphere teams.
@@TheContrarianMind i think they mean throughout history as well. Because to be honest the stats just don’t show them being better. The only NH team to win the WC is England. Yes they are getting better, but I do think that at this moment the SH can be seen as being better.
@@TheContrarianMind see this is exactly what I'm talking about mate. 9 SH World Cups paint a different story. All you do is point to Ireland's 2023 dominance, and forget that the SH has been dominant for 100 years. And that's why you'll never win a WC. What Ireland has done in 2023, has been done before by SH teams. Ireland pretend like theyre trailblazers on the local hiking route.
@@awsomerobyn2603 exactly. Its this attitude that because they are from the NH, they are somehow "owed" a seat at the table. Its been their problem forever and they refuse to admit it.
Rugby is a religion with Southern Hemisphere teams..the rivalry runs deep amongst these teams...but the respect even deeper...sorry they are the best of the best...VIVA Southern Hemisphere teams. ..VIVA AMABOKKE VIVA
The Northern hemisphere has learnt how to play Southern hemisphere rugby, in no small part due to the southern coaching influence. So it's like they've got a new toy and are very proud of it, so proud in fact it seems like they not only reinvented it but have mastered all of its intricacies to the ninth degree. Combine that with tighter refereeing and you will get a more solid game. But to be fair they have not taken it to the next level which is where they will find their southern counterparts. Rejoice though because with SA heading north an improving northern game is inevitable.
We feel like this about our Protea's cricket team who have yet to win an ICC World Cup... Well... Four years to go... Ireland are epic... See you there again... 🇿🇦 2027🏴
To be fair, Pool C was the hardest to call. If I remember correctly, Fiji, Australia, Georgia and Wales were all ranked 8, 9, 10 , 11at one point , showing how closely matched they were.
What a great game this is… the factors influencing a game are countless… technically we are all just passengers on this train… no one can really say they have it figured out… Right now Jacques and Rassie are the closest… but how long will that last? No one knows… Lets enjoy the ride and the games and the contests…
The joy of being a UA-camr, meaning you get to face those pre-tournament calls at the end of the tournament 😂 Im looking forward to doing the same, good picks with Pool B tough so atleast your QF 2 and 4 matchups were on point, im not sure I got a single QF match up correct. Fun video Connor.
Thanks a million Connor you at least tried and were very enjoyable to listen to, but for a few refereeing decisions you could have been correct. Plus if France didn't have the conversion run down (2Points) by Cheslin Kolbe, France win and if Conan grounded that ball for Ireland they also would have won, but they were 2 fantastic games. Thanks again, I'm an Ireland supporter by the way.
Get ready for the next world cup, SA are taking it again, 5th time champions. Most of the Bok players will be there including coaching staff, plus youngsters are fighting to get into the squad and prove themselves. Watch and see.
My question is probably stupid as I don't understand all the rugby competitions but I'd like a simple explanation (so that I would understand): How come that Ireland had been #1 in the world before the WCR if they didn't also play against all southern hemisphere countries? How is that #1 position awarded?
They beat South Africa twice and New Zealand twice in their 17 game winning streak and France once. They also beat Scotland Twice and England Twice. Why would you think Ireland didn't play the SH?
@@TheContrarianMind I don't remember many games that Ireland played in South Africa. It looks like the last time they played in SA was 2016. This last game in France was apparently their 1st ever game on neutral ground.
Well, Ireland can only play whats In front of them, I was explaining in my comment that Ireland did indeed play the Southern Hemisphere, however regardless of where, these games plus others ranked Ireland first for 16 months straight. Ireland are also travelling to South Africa in 2024 for a summer series with the Boks, 3 game series. A great opportunity for Ireland to regain their number one status. @@junkjournalsvideos1649
I actually don’t get it either. A big part was that they won the 6 nations, but then I was like yeah but SA, NZ and Australia aren’t in that so how does that make sense. The top 2 teams weren’t there so how can that be a big talking point?
Hey! This wc was the most unpredictable of all! The one wc to rule them all, for now.... cant wait for '27..... King R, what do you up your sleeve for the next one?
You have to feel for Ireland. Didn't lose a game since early 2022, beat South Africa, then barely lost to New Zealand in the only game they wouldn't afford to lose. At the end of it all are still number 2 in the world ranking!😢
People seems to not understand that NZ and SA pick their battles. Both teams Can lose a less important game but when it's knockouts they are harder to beat. Hense both NZ and SA beating the two teams that beat them in the group.
@@user-fp6rn2km4iagreed. It’s the same as 2019. They did not have to put it all out there in the group stages (against NZ). Then they had so much left in them, and so many tricks up their sleeves for the final, I feel that they know what they are doing and it is working
i honestly don't understand how so many people in the North continually underestimate South Africa and New Zealand. Please explain
@GazB230 sure, but "so many" doesnt mean all and "loads" doesnt mean none. I mean this guy just said he had Scotland and Ireland going through in the group. How many people said Ireland and France would be the Final, including this guy? To get that you have to have France beating NZ *and* Ireland beating South Africa *and* Ireland beating NZ *and* France beating South Africa. Sounds very much like underestimating to me. And it happens every time
To be fair the bookies actually agreed with these guys winning in the knockouts, only the scotish going through was a bit of a edgy call.
That being said i still think any individual is more likely to choose a team from their hemisphere as they watch them more... rather the devil you know i suppose.
@@cinramscott9160 you can definitely see bias in all supporters. I agree with that. As far as the bookies go I dont follow betting odds. Would those not be influenced by the biases of the people betting?
I was following rugby websites and, later, the rugby vision predictions. The algorithms i saw had NZ and SA as favourites. The websites generally leaned towards France or SA. People like Clive Woodward were predicting complete NH dominance. Again.
Not only did SA get beaten by IRE, but their win over France was only because the referee made critical mistakes. (Ignoring NZs wrongly given try against Ire). So saying they'd win the WC was obvious when the differences amounted to were inches, is simply SA fans wallowing in their own BS.
@@andrewkelly7799"mere inches" works both ways. The realistic view prior to the world cup was that it was too closeto call because of "mere inches". The last games between France or Ireland and South Africa were a matter of "mere inches". France against 14 players won by a controversial try that couldnt be checked because the ref had lost comms to the TMO. Ireland was also a very close game. Neither game warranted the confidence some in the NH had that they could do it again.
And here we are . SA won and NZ were the other finalists.
I think your predictions were fairly solid. But you know the Bokke. In 1995 I bought the first ever SA Rugby magazine. I was a student with no money but I entered a competition to guess the winner of every match at the tournament. I sent in my entry (much to my girlfriends disgust as we were broke) and a few months later found out that I won the competition (a brand new TV & VCR). That girlfriend forgave me and is now my wife of 30 years. GO BOKKE!!
what a lucky man u are she was loyal to u even through u being broke etc
Nice story . Congratulations to the long marriage an the TV an VCR lol . Go bokke
Lol. We (nz) had such a comp in 2015, only 1 person guessed japan over the bokke and he got next game wrong. Competition over in group stage.
Nine of ten RWC won by Southern hemisphere.
Great Video Connor as an Irish fan I was pretty dissapointed but Fair Play To NZ For Beating us and SA for winning the whole competition
Ireland are scandalous. They always try to cheat and came with that mindset to the W Cup !
First match v Romenië 11 illegal side entries before 12 of their tries.
Illegal double banking in line-outs before tries by Gibson-Park and penalty try v NZ. Also Jordie Barrett held ball up in NZ ingoal area after illegal line-out.
The world of rugby does not need cheats like Iteland to be world champions. It would put the game in disrepute. Quite a dishonor able scandalous approach and Ireland should be ashamed of themselves. Disgusting !!!
The major problem that the NH teams experience is not skill or belief or any lack of talent..
It is the continued and consistent belief by their fans and media that they are OWED Rugby World Cup success.
When either Wales or Ireland or France have been successful they are built up to be the team (or teams) that will end SH dominance and "bring back Rugby".
SH Rugby is then written off, either in total or at least with the exception of the All Blacks.
My humble opinion: NH Rugby is simply not as good as it percieves itself to be. It doesn't compete on the same level as SH Rugby. The sooner the NH accepts this and goes to work fixing it, the sooner they WILL be competing for World Cups.
There is no problem with NH Rugby and they are as good as the South if not better, SH players flock up to the north to play their club rugby, we pay their salaries and train them and they compete along side northern players and represent northern clubs. Ireland have beat SA twice and NZ twice in their 17 game winning streak. Munster also won the URC. Ireland just lost the QF by small margins, there is no particular reason why, there is no curse, there is no nothing, they just lost on the day, NZ showed up. Their run came to an end. thats it. if Ireland played the game again tomorrow the result would be different. To say the North isn't as "good as they perceive itself to be" is ridiculous, its you trying to get a sly dig into the northern Hem rugby and countries. The wrong bounce of the ball doesn't make a team bad, The four top teams are as good as each other but someone has to win. thats it, thats how close these games were. Ireland also play in a style other teams won't even attempt as its so difficult. show some respect. Not to mention the U20s world cup final was by two Northern hemisphere teams.
We may be able to see. Apparently SA have been invited to join the 6 nations.
If they do end up joining then it could be interesting
@@TheContrarianMind i think they mean throughout history as well. Because to be honest the stats just don’t show them being better. The only NH team to win the WC is England. Yes they are getting better, but I do think that at this moment the SH can be seen as being better.
@@TheContrarianMind see this is exactly what I'm talking about mate. 9 SH World Cups paint a different story. All you do is point to Ireland's 2023 dominance, and forget that the SH has been dominant for 100 years. And that's why you'll never win a WC. What Ireland has done in 2023, has been done before by SH teams. Ireland pretend like theyre trailblazers on the local hiking route.
@@awsomerobyn2603 exactly. Its this attitude that because they are from the NH, they are somehow "owed" a seat at the table. Its been their problem forever and they refuse to admit it.
Rugby is a religion with Southern Hemisphere teams..the rivalry runs deep amongst these teams...but the respect even deeper...sorry they are the best of the best...VIVA Southern Hemisphere teams. ..VIVA AMABOKKE VIVA
The Northern hemisphere has learnt how to play Southern hemisphere rugby, in no small part due to the southern coaching influence. So it's like they've got a new toy and are very proud of it, so proud in fact it seems like they not only reinvented it but have mastered all of its intricacies to the ninth degree. Combine that with tighter refereeing and you will get a more solid game. But to be fair they have not taken it to the next level which is where they will find their southern counterparts. Rejoice though because with SA heading north an improving northern game is inevitable.
We feel like this about our Protea's cricket team who have yet to win an ICC World Cup...
Well...
Four years to go...
Ireland are epic...
See you there again...
🇿🇦 2027🏴
To be fair, Pool C was the hardest to call. If I remember correctly, Fiji, Australia, Georgia and Wales were all ranked 8, 9, 10 , 11at one point , showing how closely matched they were.
Yeah it was a hard one, but it was definitely the most enjoyable pool because of that. Was great to see Portugal get their first World Cup win!!
@@ConnorDoesRugbyFrench coach for Portugal 😊
Pool B was the hardest to get through and South Africa did that
What a great game this is… the factors influencing a game are countless… technically we are all just passengers on this train… no one can really say they have it figured out… Right now Jacques and Rassie are the closest… but how long will that last? No one knows… Lets enjoy the ride and the games and the contests…
Don't let your hatred of a team influence your logical thinking.....ask the Irish and French pundits 😂😂
A man that owns his errors (albeit only rugby predictions) - Go Connor!
I love your videos 😅😅
Northern hemisphere media completely underestimated southern hemisphere rugby. NZ and SA just have something else when it comes to knockout rugby.
Northern Hemisphere scribes just dont understand the game of rugby
The joy of being a UA-camr, meaning you get to face those pre-tournament calls at the end of the tournament 😂 Im looking forward to doing the same, good picks with Pool B tough so atleast your QF 2 and 4 matchups were on point, im not sure I got a single QF match up correct. Fun video Connor.
Thanks mate, looking forward to yours!!
Thanks a million Connor you at least tried and were very enjoyable to listen to, but for a few refereeing decisions you could have been correct. Plus if France didn't have the conversion run down (2Points) by Cheslin Kolbe, France win and if Conan grounded that ball for Ireland they also would have won, but they were 2 fantastic games. Thanks again, I'm an Ireland supporter by the way.
Get ready for the next world cup, SA are taking it again, 5th time champions. Most of the Bok players will be there including coaching staff, plus youngsters are fighting to get into the squad and prove themselves. Watch and see.
what ever you say
Rassie said a Three-peat, so a three-peat it will be
why is he going to pay the tmo off again@@thenomad47
don't get your hopes up we only win when they underestimate us or we underestimate the boks
mate different game new coaches different time just because your were lucky last time who is too say what may happen this time@@subbie5498
If I'd seen your predictions before the World Cup I think I would have agreed with every one of them.
well how dumb are you then.
My question is probably stupid as I don't understand all the rugby competitions but I'd like a simple explanation (so that I would understand): How come that Ireland had been #1 in the world before the WCR if they didn't also play against all southern hemisphere countries? How is that #1 position awarded?
Ireland had won at least 3 games against the All Blacks, New Zealand (Southern hemisphere).
They beat South Africa twice and New Zealand twice in their 17 game winning streak and France once. They also beat Scotland Twice and England Twice. Why would you think Ireland didn't play the SH?
@@TheContrarianMind I don't remember many games that Ireland played in South Africa. It looks like the last time they played in SA was 2016. This last game in France was apparently their 1st ever game on neutral ground.
Well, Ireland can only play whats In front of them, I was explaining in my comment that Ireland did indeed play the Southern Hemisphere, however regardless of where, these games plus others ranked Ireland first for 16 months straight. Ireland are also travelling to South Africa in 2024 for a summer series with the Boks, 3 game series. A great opportunity for Ireland to regain their number one status. @@junkjournalsvideos1649
I actually don’t get it either. A big part was that they won the 6 nations, but then I was like yeah but SA, NZ and Australia aren’t in that so how does that make sense. The top 2 teams weren’t there so how can that be a big talking point?
Hey I like this game *puts hand up* 👆🏴
Haha, it very fun isn’t it
Hey! This wc was the most unpredictable of all! The one wc to rule them all, for now.... cant wait for '27..... King R, what do you up your sleeve for the next one?
You have to feel for Ireland. Didn't lose a game since early 2022, beat South Africa, then barely lost to New Zealand in the only game they wouldn't afford to lose. At the end of it all are still number 2 in the world ranking!😢
People seems to not understand that NZ and SA pick their battles. Both teams Can lose a less important game but when it's knockouts they are harder to beat.
Hense both NZ and SA beating the two teams that beat them in the group.
@@user-fp6rn2km4iagreed. It’s the same as 2019. They did not have to put it all out there in the group stages (against NZ). Then they had so much left in them, and so many tricks up their sleeves for the final, I feel that they know what they are doing and it is working
@@awsomerobyn2603 The final was terrible. I think the game of the tournament was Ireland v New Zealand! I'm not Irish!
Nah game of the tournament FRANCE VS BOKS and then PORTUGAL VS FIJI.
@@domminion599 or smart for that matter.
Very good video ❤
Glad you liked it
Never underestimate the South Africans
We're you on the gear...???😅😅😅
Namibia managed to get a best rugby player of the year, Antoine Dupont, out ! Grrr
It was on instructions from the Springboks.
You got it horrifically wrong...
At least you didn't lose money mate?
👍🏻
Never write off the Springboks and coach rassie they don't play finals they win them 😂😂😂😂
Bad language was off putting otherwise enjoyed the video!
Mate youl blew it and have a lot of excuses to go with it .........Your rational is flawed and lacks true understanding about the game