Some things to note: Dustfell also has higher damage, but higher stamina usage on attacks to balance it out. If your spear counter is triggered it gives you +15 stamina. If you successfully land your spear’s green slash 3 times, it turns into a melee weapon that deals 15 damage if you land it. Hope this helped!
For Snowdin Dustfell all he does is do more dmg. It's actually pretty useful since you can camp in your spin bone and use fire type moves to regen stamina and do massive damage at the same time plus you got force for the persistent fellows then you can use the bone throw type move to do even more damage. I never really had a problem with him on my way to max dust.
After watching the video, i believe that Waterfall Dustfell is better. Yes, you have way less stamina, but all you really need is to get at least one kill wich is kinda easy because they will probably just rush at your bone spears and then get a counter thus giving you 3 kills that you need for the dual memory blaster (But that's just my opinion really) Also, the counter ain't that bad even more because you can get a free counter from most reworked weapons (A exemple is to get hit on purpose by fissure just to get a free counter from it)
I personally believe Dustfell is still at least better than Normal Dust on Snowdin. Let me explain. The cooldowns are always going to make him bad, of course. However. The mix in which Snowdin works is damage. Dustfell works well in that aspect, as not only does he have better for having that one kill, but his blasters don't come from above. The blaster difference is what makes him better, in general, as instead of coming from above, it comes from the sides, allowing for it to become harder to dodge, hence more damage. Other than that, it is arguable on whether not Dustfell is better than his counterpart in snowdin.
honestly (in my own personal experience) Ruins: Fell but takes more skill so will be hard to use at first Snowdin: Non, use Murder skin but if you seriously wanna use those two then use normal, fell stamina is so bad it sucks Waterfall: Depends, are you good controlling crowds or you are good playing defensive? each sans has a special thing that helps that aspect, overall Fell gets a second memory blaster quicker which helps a lot and normal gets a free bonezone which is meh, honestly i would pick fell because that one kill helps more Overall fell is much better now due to the kill (useless kill at first but if you play it more and more it will make you unstoppable)
Best combo for dust sans (not fell) Fire + zone Gaster (predict the charas) Use knife when one chara is close Force if many (using knife is optional) Camp on zone to regain stamina Dustfell is only different Using slash is not optional due to its slash work Ruins combo is that Snowdin Combo Fire circle + Frozen hell Regretful blasters (using frozen hell and fire circle with it is optional when you dont used the fire and frozen on the beginning) Force if close and regretful blasters (Doing this will help a bit) Dustfell (same thing) I havent unlocked waterfall so ill keep you all update
I probably recommend with both waterfalls I recommend just spamming number and spam click to actually have a advantage when u first spawn in the map and 99% with dustfell u are gonna spawn stuck and then get up.
Waterfall is really skill use. What i like to do is use memory blaster and use that bone spear area and predict where they are going, and if it hits well, there goes litterly 3/4 of thier hp
I’ll just come and comment here as one of the few actual ruins dust mains, while outerdust seems good with that extra 20 or 15 stamina, it actually does not make much of a difference at all with the new weapons and how easily you can lose that stamina. The ice comets are a incredible nerf from fireballs which are frankly harder to dodge then the ice. The triple blasters, asteroid, stars and the rare blue soul effect from the bones are its only good points that prevent him from dying too easily. Now on to dustfell, yes he does start with 180 stamina, 200 if someone leaves at the start of the round due to kill buff. While his stamina is lower then ruins and outerdust, his +1 kill makes him much more viable then outerdust who has -1 kills or normal ruins due to how it might be difficult to even get that 1st kill as ruins. If you use him, I’d suggest using bonezone to block off certain paths of movements, force them back and then use fireballs and blasters, since you give them less space to move and dodge the unpredictable fireball hitbox. Chains can be comboed and usually I use it while inside bonezones together with blasters. The bonethrow is useful for getting people to hesitate a moment before attacking, which goes for all ruins, as well as blasters. The moment you get 1 kill as dustfell, that normally garentuees your win. For normal ruins, I would recommend the same beginning strategy, stay in bonezone s and use fireballs, use blasters and knife when they get close then bone throw. Use every opportunity to force them back since it costs 0 stamina, but don’t do it during fireball since that gives them immunity frames. As for outerdust, if I use him, I normally go with ice comets and blasters since I have no bone zones, I use the stars first and wait till they end before using asteroid. The blasters are very useful for him, as well as the bones that give the blue soul effect occasionally. Getting kills should be your top priority. You should always keep playing defensively, only using blasters as offence. That’s about all I have to say for outer dust. Hope this helps you and anyone who reads this.
btw snowdin fell has the old blasters so it's more useful for camping but I don't recommend using the snowdin fell or ruins fell if u are a console dude cuz u will lag.
SY!FellDust is the goat!! Single-handedly wins at ulc!! I do think at points (and who you play against) it’s better to switch skins and upgrades, sometimes murder is better for some opponents while Murder is better for others.
Dustfell ruins is better in a way since now he has a push and pull and who needs a knife like that frisk when you can use chains which can be used long range and dhort range
Maybe if snowdin duatfell had lower cooldowns a little bit more stamina and and a middle gaint blaster to camp in it would be way more worth it to grind for it
If I’m honest they need to give dust sans snowdin more attacks like a ability to counter and if they hit he punches them where it makes their screen blurry because he’s using the tough gloves and it will make him a lot better ( with alot more stamina )
wouldnt say that snowdin dustfell is THAT bad, if you manage your attacks you can be almost a god if you arent dumb. but i agree that it has too low stamina
Now this list is outdated cuz they reworked Snowden dust fell and Snowden dust Now they both have melee weapons with a difference being the base form of Snowden dust can do a 20 damage punch at max charge but dust fell can only do 18 damage with a bleed at max charge which is much stronger cuz the bleed does like five damage every like second and a half which is really good Also now the bone actually spins and doesn't just stop when the bone responds it doesn't just slowly spin inwards and actually spend forwards and then does it So now you can throw people into the bone while it's spinning as well as summon fireballs and if they get too close you can save a charge and then jab it forward killing them cuz the thing is a really good furniture tool It's good for damage too but it's amazing for a finisher tool cuz it can do a lot of damage really fast
I say Dustfell Wins and thats mainly because of one reason, Murder Sans exists, if you have Murder then theres no point in using either Snowdin forms because he outclasses them Not to mention that Dustfell is actually better if your patient with his Waterfall variant (And his Ruins variant is actually stronger than Casual Dust) All in all, the best Dusttale Character is- Dustbelief Papyrus What? Did you forget he's a Dusttale?
@@Sansman888.And people like you is the reason the internet is an eternal hell, Try and not throw a hissy fit all because someone got something wrong, and don't bother replying or you'd end up showing that you're childish about this.
so there are also sneekpeak on snowdin and waterfall Outerdust so... we need new updated one but ruins outerdust blasters do brrrrrrr oneshot (if spy stands still with DT soul it can kill 2 in 1 shot)
Bro I should be saying sorry for my bad playing as canonfell frisk when you were playing as waterfall dust because I was just running around swinging my knife and somehow won
For me Snowdin was much better as long as you know how to use it (which I did) and for dustfell Snowdin? For me it actually was much better than normal Snowdin and murder sans is the best tho before waterfall which I don’t have yet
is it just me or dustfell ruin/snowdin has no i frames in any way like if 2 chara hit him almost at the same time he will get hit twice instead of once which makes him way easier to kill
you're using snowdin dustfell wrong, and that's coming from me who hates the game. try standing your ground with him rather than running all over the place, and never use him when there's a real knife because of bad game design.
Some things to note: Dustfell also has higher damage, but higher stamina usage on attacks to balance it out. If your spear counter is triggered it gives you +15 stamina. If you successfully land your spear’s green slash 3 times, it turns into a melee weapon that deals 15 damage if you land it. Hope this helped!
I never knew what spear counter did. Thanks for the info
Spear counter no more gives 1 kill boost Now it only gives stamina
Isn't it every slash? Bc even on unsuccessful hit you will lose a usage
@@Uncertified_Legendno just when yiu hit it
Dustfell starts with a kill, not extra dmg
For Snowdin Dustfell all he does is do more dmg. It's actually pretty useful since you can camp in your spin bone and use fire type moves to regen stamina and do massive damage at the same time plus you got force for the persistent fellows then you can use the bone throw type move to do even more damage. I never really had a problem with him on my way to max dust.
*insert dull knife users*
Brotha.
@@kristiyanteodorovpetrov5144 Hello brother
@@HardTale_Sans got removed, then reworked. let's see how it holds up now.
@@woahachannelits even worse
After watching the video, i believe that Waterfall Dustfell is better. Yes, you have way less stamina, but all you really need is to get at least one kill wich is kinda easy because they will probably just rush at your bone spears and then get a counter thus giving you 3 kills that you need for the dual memory blaster (But that's just my opinion really) Also, the counter ain't that bad even more because you can get a free counter from most reworked weapons (A exemple is to get hit on purpose by fissure just to get a free counter from it)
I personally believe Dustfell is still at least better than Normal Dust on Snowdin. Let me explain.
The cooldowns are always going to make him bad, of course. However. The mix in which Snowdin works is damage. Dustfell works well in that aspect, as not only does he have better for having that one kill, but his blasters don't come from above. The blaster difference is what makes him better, in general, as instead of coming from above, it comes from the sides, allowing for it to become harder to dodge, hence more damage.
Other than that, it is arguable on whether not Dustfell is better than his counterpart in snowdin.
To add on, I got more wins as Dustfell Snowdin than any other for snowdin.
@@OmegaSans99 in the end it really depends on the user and the chara team players.
@@Foxay346I think it depends more on how you play it
that’s what he meant ;-;
honestly (in my own personal experience)
Ruins: Fell but takes more skill so will be hard to use at first
Snowdin: Non, use Murder skin but if you seriously wanna use those two then use normal, fell stamina is so bad it sucks
Waterfall: Depends, are you good controlling crowds or you are good playing defensive? each sans has a special thing that helps that aspect, overall Fell gets a second memory blaster quicker which helps a lot and normal gets a free bonezone which is meh, honestly i would pick fell because that one kill helps more
Overall fell is much better now due to the kill (useless kill at first but if you play it more and more it will make you unstoppable)
With ruins outerdust is best to use now 😅
Best combo for dust sans (not fell)
Fire + zone
Gaster (predict the charas)
Use knife when one chara is close
Force if many (using knife is optional)
Camp on zone to regain stamina
Dustfell is only different
Using slash is not optional due to its slash work
Ruins combo is that
Snowdin Combo
Fire circle + Frozen hell
Regretful blasters (using frozen hell and fire circle with it is optional when you dont used the fire and frozen on the beginning)
Force if close and regretful blasters
(Doing this will help a bit)
Dustfell (same thing)
I havent unlocked waterfall so ill keep you all update
"and you feel good about yourself" 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀
truly the best buff for getting kills as ruins dust sans
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I appeared in the video, I'm that guy from ruins dust sans who had the horror machete
Yooooloooo
Dayum
OBJECTION: outerdust
Like this so he sees
F#ck this outer dust! Swapdust is better and is a god!!
@@Dustswap_papyrus *farts and you get blown away**
@@thereisnotenoughlettersformyu what the fuck is this comment
I probably recommend with both waterfalls I recommend just spamming number and spam click to actually have a advantage when u first spawn in the map and 99% with dustfell u are gonna spawn stuck and then get up.
POV the old days:the video
POV now:the goat
Waterfall is really skill use. What i like to do is use memory blaster and use that bone spear area and predict where they are going, and if it hits well, there goes litterly 3/4 of thier hp
Thats smart
@@Foxay346 it works really well if they are at the corner of the map.
Am i the only Waterfall Dust main that chases down Charas with Spear melee variant?
With the new snowdin rework...I have a feeling dustfell wins this now
Dustfell RUINS combo: chained + bone zone + blasters, boom! A one shot combo!
Me when dustfell is op for no reason (love the vid btw)
Bone zone actually spawns a bone zone where you click and spawns more in other places so you can still use bone zone in chain combos
Only thing snowdin dust fell has going for it is the absolute banger theme, everything else is meh
The model is also fire ngl
I’ll just come and comment here as one of the few actual ruins dust mains, while outerdust seems good with that extra 20 or 15 stamina, it actually does not make much of a difference at all with the new weapons and how easily you can lose that stamina. The ice comets are a incredible nerf from fireballs which are frankly harder to dodge then the ice. The triple blasters, asteroid, stars and the rare blue soul effect from the bones are its only good points that prevent him from dying too easily. Now on to dustfell, yes he does start with 180 stamina, 200 if someone leaves at the start of the round due to kill buff. While his stamina is lower then ruins and outerdust, his +1 kill makes him much more viable then outerdust who has -1 kills or normal ruins due to how it might be difficult to even get that 1st kill as ruins. If you use him, I’d suggest using bonezone to block off certain paths of movements, force them back and then use fireballs and blasters, since you give them less space to move and dodge the unpredictable fireball hitbox. Chains can be comboed and usually I use it while inside bonezones together with blasters. The bonethrow is useful for getting people to hesitate a moment before attacking, which goes for all ruins, as well as blasters. The moment you get 1 kill as dustfell, that normally garentuees your win. For normal ruins, I would recommend the same beginning strategy, stay in bonezone s and use fireballs, use blasters and knife when they get close then bone throw. Use every opportunity to force them back since it costs 0 stamina, but don’t do it during fireball since that gives them immunity frames. As for outerdust, if I use him, I normally go with ice comets and blasters since I have no bone zones, I use the stars first and wait till they end before using asteroid. The blasters are very useful for him, as well as the bones that give the blue soul effect occasionally. Getting kills should be your top priority. You should always keep playing defensively, only using blasters as offence. That’s about all I have to say for outer dust. Hope this helps you and anyone who reads this.
Outerdusts ice comet's actually don't take stamina which means you have 2 moves that don't take stamina
And they get bigger every kill
I can give dustfell snowdin plus because this music sick
Waterfall has a better theme, enough said...
old model blasters hitboxes stay a tiny bit after the blast is gone
do NOT let this man cook 💀
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You can use your blasters as a ''Blaster Zone' to camp in if you get enough kill's(This is for both character's)
I guess that works but im not a big fan of camping even tho the attacks sometimes force you to
btw snowdin fell has the old blasters so it's more useful for camping but I don't recommend using the snowdin fell or ruins fell if u are a console dude cuz u will lag.
Why do I see you everywhere?
@@HUGEUndertalefanbecause you see me.
SY!FellDust is the goat!! Single-handedly wins at ulc!!
I do think at points (and who you play against) it’s better to switch skins and upgrades, sometimes murder is better for some opponents while Murder is better for others.
dont even bring up murder... (i despise him)
@@Foxay346 what did murder do to you dawg
@@wolfofwin344 use the most toxic attack combinations...
@@Foxay346 now im curious what the most toxic attack combinations are on murder
@@wolfofwin344 fog+alot of blasters at the same time
Dustfell ruins is better in a way since now he has a push and pull and who needs a knife like that frisk when you can use chains which can be used long range and dhort range
i love "clipping" people with snowdin dustfell pike
Yo uh, for anyone, I noticed force is free for dustfell so, take that as advantage.
Ruins fell also has a chain-blaster combo that is op.
can you make an updated one with new snowdin dust vs old snowdin dust
yea il make one when core dust comes out
Which dust sans would you like the most
Undertale last corridor or undertale finale showdown
Maybe if snowdin duatfell had lower cooldowns a little bit more stamina and and a middle gaint blaster to camp in it would be way more worth it to grind for it
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If I’m honest they need to give dust sans snowdin more attacks like a ability to counter and if they hit he punches them where it makes their screen blurry because he’s using the tough gloves and it will make him a lot better ( with alot more stamina )
and i say replace fire circle, he has 2 fire moves for some reason
@@FM_Songsmith one is aoe, other is map sized
well yeah, but i dont think it makes sense that he has 2 fire moves.
@@FM_Songsmith one comes from the iconic bone, other comes up from his ass
Can we all agree during a cutscrean it funny get a kill by someone who didn't see a fire ball land behide them?
wouldnt say that snowdin dustfell is THAT bad, if you manage your attacks you can be almost a god if you arent dumb. but i agree that it has too low stamina
I kinda agree, but the cooldowns are just too much
@@Foxay346 i agree, but you have to manage your cooldowns. so you always have atleast one thing prepared rather than spamming all of it
Sometimes it’s good to spam a little bit but you have to conserve your attacks or you’ll be rushed
Now this list is outdated cuz they reworked Snowden dust fell and Snowden dust Now they both have melee weapons with a difference being the base form of Snowden dust can do a 20 damage punch at max charge but dust fell can only do 18 damage with a bleed at max charge which is much stronger cuz the bleed does like five damage every like second and a half which is really good Also now the bone actually spins and doesn't just stop when the bone responds it doesn't just slowly spin inwards and actually spend forwards and then does it So now you can throw people into the bone while it's spinning as well as summon fireballs and if they get too close you can save a charge and then jab it forward killing them cuz the thing is a really good furniture tool It's good for damage too but it's amazing for a finisher tool cuz it can do a lot of damage really fast
I say Dustfell Wins and thats mainly because of one reason, Murder Sans exists, if you have Murder then theres no point in using either Snowdin forms because he outclasses them
Not to mention that Dustfell is actually better if your patient with his Waterfall variant (And his Ruins variant is actually stronger than Casual Dust)
All in all, the best Dusttale Character is- Dustbelief Papyrus
What? Did you forget he's a Dusttale?
No shit Sherlock, it's dusttale but a timeline called dust belief, and this video focuses on sans 👐
@@Sansman888.And people like you is the reason the internet is an eternal hell, Try and not throw a hissy fit all because someone got something wrong, and don't bother replying or you'd end up showing that you're childish about this.
@@chandlerCreator so your point is that, if anyone responds to anything they're childish, good charm just like you replying to my comment 😇
@@chandlerCreatorthe vid didnt cover hyper dust, big sadge😢
@@dominospizza0445 TRUE- nor did it cover LittleHyper Dust nor LittleDust this is truly a sad moment for the Child mains
Snowdin dusts spinner also shoots like dustbeliefs spinner except dust has no blue bones and it’s bigger (I think)
You can also punch people and also store the punch
this video was made before punch was added and bone spin was changed :p
try to move less (like a lot less) it gives better stam regen
so there are also sneekpeak on snowdin and waterfall Outerdust so... we need new updated one but ruins outerdust blasters do brrrrrrr oneshot (if spy stands still with DT soul it can kill 2 in 1 shot)
Hello 7:35
Lmao
"dust characters get buffed every time they kill"
swapdust papyrus:
he does get stamina back tho 👀
They did him dirty
The only time dustfell is better than original is at ruins bc chained, and extra blaster, in waterfall and snowdin you dont need the extra blaster
Answer to video: OuterDust 😎
Only swapdust is getting more stamina for kills!(Max stamina) And also he gets 60 stamina per kill on 1.5 phase!
Bro I should be saying sorry for my bad playing as canonfell frisk when you were playing as waterfall dust because I was just running around swinging my knife and somehow won
Nah, the real winner is Murder!Sans, he’s the GOAT
we dont talk about Murder!Sans no no no
( using him makes him a goat, but dying to him is pain)
murder sans is the GOAT, he single handedly solos all of the dusts fr
For me Snowdin was much better as long as you know how to use it (which I did) and for dustfell Snowdin? For me it actually was much better than normal Snowdin and murder sans is the best tho before waterfall which I don’t have yet
It's obviously the one that starts with dust
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Outer dust Ruins balls out even harder than Snowdin Dust sanses
Bro is just built diffrent
Now we wait for Core Dust
is it just me or dustfell ruin/snowdin has no i frames in any way
like if 2 chara hit him almost at the same time he will get hit twice instead of once which makes him way easier to kill
for some reason he doesnt have i frames, so if u hit him with "X-Slash" he will take non stop dmg
Idk what your on about ruins dust being better then snowdin. Its very clear by the footage you did MUCH better with snowdin then ruins
Outertale just comes outta nowhere
i know right. i dont wana make a sequel ;-;
6:13 i guess you havent met me...
btw i always won as snowdin dustfell
Snowdin dust and dustfell have been reworked after the blaster remodel
So they are actually really good now
I wonder who'd be stronger outerdust or dust
you're using snowdin dustfell wrong, and that's coming from me who hates the game.
try standing your ground with him rather than running all over the place, and never use him when there's a real knife because of bad game design.
Ulc devs noticed that lmao they're re-reworking that shii
@@yeahnvmnvm1331 I hope they don't because they ruin everything they touch
Somehow ruining their own things more than once.
i wonder why ruin fell's blaster is does biggest dmg to player
Or outer dust
I won two rounds in a row with Snowdin dust lol
OK THIS IS VERY OLD AND SOMEWHAT OUTDATED ALSO VERY HORRIBLE EDITING ISTG
dont expect anything good from this video
Damn. I was looking forward ti getting the wins for dustfell snowdin but guess hes trash lol 😆
He is good but not always
@pertti1e still. It's a little disappointing to see his stats
Edit: loved the video btw!!!
and watterfall dustfell is supuse to have a 2 passive too but is not workin
Actually the second passive DOES work since I’ve seen the fire come off of the spear fall passive before
@@Coolestguyfrfr ow
@@Coolestguyfrfr ok
More stamina means better. It’s obvious fell is worse
Nope. That logic is really bad.
@@errornekochara no
Omg im in video
Wait for outer dust
Swondin dust fell need a buff
OR SWAPDUST?!
Why is bro not uses force as ruin dust
Massive skill issue from me ngl
Collab??????¿?????
I’m the 35 sub :D
uhh outerdust better
Compared to the other ruins ye for sure.
People is gaming
How to get dust fell Snowdin I literally have 2130 EXP
Outerdust better
im a dustfella
nahh dustfell / underfell sans is just op sry to break it to yah
I mean yeah he is do be op af currently
When i played as snowdin dustfell, i won every round.
You just suck at using him or you aren’t camping as much which is a main thing it requires
I suck at using anything for the first time ngl
@@Foxay346 late reply but maybe I spent too much time using Snowdin Dustfell
Waterfall dustfell is op it’s just your trash
Valid opinion
Outerdust 🔥
he is busy in space
Yea but soon he’ll become not lazy and start fighting the chara team
the intro was cringey as hell
Sorry bout it
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