Acoustic Cooling & How To Manipulate Heat With Sound (Thermoacoustics Part 2)
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- In this video we explore another facet of thermoacoustics: heat pumps and refrigeration. Check out my sponsor MEL Science and use the promo code "nighthawk" for 25% off the first month: bit.ly/MELScienceNHiL
Resources for further study:
Blade Attila's excellent thermoacoustic/heat engine page: / bladeattila
Part 1 of my thermoacoustic series: • Acoustic Energy & Surp...
In depth paper on the function of a basic thermoacoustic refrigerator: www.researchgate.net/publicat...
Here's a paper done on a modified NASA heat pump: asa.scitation.org/doi/10.1121...
This page has a nice animation comparing sound wave particle movement vs. pressure: www.physicslens.com/pressure-...
A special thanks to my top Patrons: LVE, Enzo Breda Lee, Jon Hartmann, TheBackyardScientist & Eugene Pakhomov! If you enjoy these videos please consider supporting my efforts to continually improve them: / nighthawkprojects
Thanks for watching!
-Ben
Yes, please cover/explore traveling wave engines.
I was thinking about if it could be used in a Sterling Engine.
Man, incredible work. You saved me a massive headache in trying to explain this for my James Webb telescope video. Going to reference you in my video as thanks
I'll be interested to learn how thermoacoustics is connected to the telescope!
I will wait for ur video 😊
I found this video because the Real Engineering JWST video got me curious about acoustic cooling. Even after seeing how it works, it's mind-blowing that this technology can keep the IR sensors on Webb running just a few degrees above absolute zero.
@@HughWilliams1 me too
Wow - I guess it is a honor to receive a message like this from you.
This video is 2 years old and one of the best educational videos of thermoacoustics. Please keep going and create a traveling sound wave demonstration as well, I still do not fully understand how they work.
You are very good at relaying info. You simply say what is true. And you disambiguate phrases/words/concepts that people easily confuse. I would definitely love to see more acoustics stuff!
Thanks!
Totally agree, and I would likewise love to see more with acoustics!
oh dang. this is advanced. youre even breaking out the mood ring technology
I'm feeling mighty thermochromic atm!
Uhh yeah? Dude turn this into a whole series, please! This is amazing!
Yeah, let's dive into travelling waves!!!
I hope you read new comments on older videos still:
If you combine this video with your more recent video about self-cooling paint, and then build a system made with wind pipes, you could make a fully passive air-conditioner. The wind pipes generate the standing wave, the heat dissipating paint will radiate the heat away (either by feeding heatpipes to a cooling panel, or by painting directly onto the tube in the hot areas. The heat should radiate outward because of how your paint is made (the painted surface sticks to the paint layer slickly, allowing conductive transfer into the paint, while it also prevents the paint from radiating it back into the tube, while the outside will have a greater contact surface with air, allowing for convective cooling on top of radiation as soon as the temperature goes above ambient.
Now if the wind is created by passive ventilation techniques, it would let the hot air create the resonance tone on the way out, while the cooled air pushes down and into the room, creating a fully passive clean cooled airflow even when there is no wind outside.
Very much hope there will be a part 3! Also acoustic heat pumps seem to be a very interesting technology, would love to see you discuss the basics of those as well!
I would love to know what kind of set-ups might be possible for accoustic heat pumps too.
Other science channels cover a lot of interesting stuff too but this channel's the one and only channel that I can rely on to find out something new every once in a while, then the other channels start covering the same stuff because of it.
You should try applied science, it's a great channel
@@lstein8670 Oh yeah I watch him too, he just doesn't post as often as I'd like lol, it's gotten better this year but a year ago he only had one video every few months
@@lstein8670 Applied science is great but often the science is beyond the capabilities/resources of most people. Also can be mentally challenging at times too.
Besides this channel, I also like Robert Murray Smith, Tech Ingredients, Cody's Lab, and as mentioned Applied Science. But with A.S., I feel much of what he does is out of the purview of the average tinkerer. Sometimes also true for Tech Ingredients and Cody's Lab. I do like how NHIL and RMS do a lot of stuff that most of us can try or replicate at home as well (not always, but a good portion).
The way those layers were kept separate: genius move. Really good idea.
I've been in HVAC/r for over 20 and all I'm going to say is you have my attention! This is some pretty interesting material!
same!
F'mindblowing.. Searched for part 3 many times now..
I really wish to know more about this topic, I am going to recycle a subwoofer..
You should try to get a company to send/sponsor you with a thermal camera, you could use one so much!
Dear Ben, I'm glad to see the Part 2 of your thermoacoustic video series! You have done a very good job and you are presenting the experiments nicely and clearly. I hope lot of people will start to interest about thermoacoustics because it is a really interesting topic of the heat-engines. It was a good collaboration I'm waiting for your next video! BLADE
where is the continuation
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Amazing concepts. Thank you for your help in making this more widely known.
Seeing cryogenic temperatures would be very impressive.
do u realize that writing from the wrong account gives Christina Khalil way much more subs than to you? lol
I was filial to thermoacoustic so I dropped that women and subscribed to the right channel, but many with a weaker will may not be able to so yeah... will charge dangerously low ... resistance is futile ....
Reminds me a an experiment done around 1967 with microwaves. A standing wave was set up with about 5 nodes and a row of plants along the standing waves. The height of the plants depended on their position along the standing wave. The height was attributed to temperature: where the waves superimposed, the temperature was higher and the warmer temp made the plants grow better. Where the waves interfered with each other, there was no temp increase.
You got a gift for teaching, one of the reasons I love your videos. Simple is better when learning foundational concepts. DIY is almost intuitively included with your demos. Thanks!
I'd love to see this developed further, especially chaining the stacks together to get more extreme temperatures and building it into a device that can actually do something even if it might not be the most efficient thing.
SCREAM POWERED REFRIGERATOR!
is it possible to use the harmonics to get multiple nodes and multiple stack?
And also probably some ways to modulate the wave using ultrasonic or subsonic frequencies
These videos are absolutely excellent! The combination of high production quality and a clear build-up of information works so well. You manage to simultaneously be more informative than most other educational channels, without requiring excessive existing knowledge from the viewer. Bravo!
I must say, this is absolutely the highest education-grade quality of UA-cam there is. You are a gold standard. Keep it up!
Thank you for making these videos! I've always wondered what sound waves are capable of since I first learned how the basic shapes of them can influence each other so much! Just watching these has given me a few ideas for some projects I'd like to try around the house! Please keep it up and thanks again for being an entertaining and informative youtuber!
I'm a musician and I will gladly watch your videos on acoustics until the cows come home. You are the first person to ever introduce me to thermoacoustic engines & refrigeration. I wish this stuff was taught in physics class, but I REALLY wish it was taught in music class. Thank you!
I’m an engineer (would have been a research physicist if I’d had the coconut 🧠). But I also thought about a career in music. (Again, the 🥥.) Math is the link; the purist science of all! Good connection!
@@CM-kl9qh hi cm, can i know ur name...? 😃
@@cmssubjects8472 C M, not cm. ;-)
It's satisfying to read such a comment.
I do teach physics and love to play guitar.
Once I had a very talented (musician) student. He needed to pass some tests in order to go as a exchange student. I was supposed to guide him according to the stablish study guide.
He was way behind on math & physics.
So, change of plans, fuck the study guide.
I ask him to calculate the note will be produced by a string of a material, x lenght, and stretched by and T force.
Immediately his mind set changed for the best, and got interested into the math and physics required, which eventually helped him to take those tests like a piece of cake, and got the grades he needed without hating physics and math as often occurs.
If you play just the right notes, you could be really cool...😈
Awesome Ben! I always feel like I walk away from your videos creatively inspired. This was incredibly well demonstrated.
So true. Ben is in the Top 5 best science youtubers.
@@simonstergaard And out of ones named Ben he's for sure in the top 2! (ref to Applied Science)
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This guy puts ads on the video, plus his own sponsor ads in the videos plus wants patreon?
I will NEVER support someone on patreon who does this!
@@tarstarkusz I am sure the experiments that he shows us cost money, but either way, how come you don't just use an ad-blocker and call it a day? No more aggravation for you, and we all live in harmony!
More of this please sir!
Both absolutely fascinating and extremely informative.
This is the type of stuff that could inspire aspirations for further exploration into the sciences amongst young minds both now and in the future.
Loving your work man and your take on science communication! Your explanations are exceptionally clear, accurate and fluent.
This is a really fascinating subject. Great video!
yeah, I put on my head phones and it gave me chills.
Agree, absolutely.
Oh hey cool to see you around.
Absolutely Fascinating!
Love your stuff, life in jars!
I’d love to see more on thermo acoustics, it’s a really interesting subject I knew absolutely nothing about! I’d love to see the travelling wave designs too!
I'm with Night Stick.
As a professional brass musician and avid science enthusiast, this video makes me incredibly happy. Your explanation of fundamental resonance and the harmonic series is very well researched and explained.
Acoustic ring resonant concept is intriguing and has other amplification applications I find absolutely essential to design, more work with this would be very useful and immensely appreciated.
Dude, the amount of hours that I've enjoyed watching you is amazing, especially since i didn't really enjoy science class. if you were as science teacher, id come to your classes no matter how old i am.
Hey there Ben, Ive been a subscriber for awhile and I have no idea if you are going to read this but I just want to let you know that it’s ok to take a break from time to time. I know how stressful it is having people push you to make a new video and having to keep your private life out from work life. If you EVER need to take a week long or even month long hiatus, it is OK and I promise you that we will (almost) all support you in your decision. Your eye opening content has been played in many many many science classrooms all over the world and you are inspiration to millions. Again, if you EVER feel stressed or depressed don’t hesitate to take a little while off. I hope your doing alright and no matter what we’ve got your back 💙
Thank you very much. I'm doing well for now, especially with warm weather coming on.
good point! lots of the best youtubers dont pace out of the rush from the audience and burn themselves out. please take your time Ben, we can wait for this type of quality vs quantity.
More thermal acoustic cooling please. I like your delivery and your choice of topics keep up the good work
This is super interesting stuff. I'll watch anything in this series! Go as deep as you can and keep the awesome gadgets. The visualization really helps!
His models are so clean and more/less ready for a science museum. I hope you get funding from education, sir! Your contribution is massive and very interesting. I hope you’re getting adequate support!
And...omg yes! Please continue this series!
Very cool, and great explanation. I can definitely appreciate the amount of work that must’ve went into making these models.
Dude I am amazed at what you're doing. Partially because of what it is and partially because I actually understand it. You are so cool and I definitely want to learn more about thermal acoustics. Thank you for doing what you're doing
Dude, your delivery on every topic you cover is amazing!
The way you've been able to break things down into a MUCH easier to comprehend way is honestly stunning. This is such a complicated topic with so much to try to grasp, yet you've managed to not only flawlessly explain it all, you manage to do it without ever sounding pompous.
That said, HOLY HELL thermoacoustics is SO freaking cool! I never would have thought about using the flow of sound to generate/dissipate heat or even generate power. It would be incredibly interesting to see what the efficiency of such systems would be and explore whether or not they could be feasibly be used in lieu of more traditional methods. Like, is there a way that you could utilize the (natural or artificial) wind to generate a tone that could power one. What kind of energy could a thermoacoustic system provide under those conditions, and would it even be possible.
It'd also be really interesting to see if different gas compositions (in a closed system) would produce results that are different than the natural atmosphere and what difference they would/could make. Higher/lower temps? Faster/slower diaphragm movement? Etc. There are a million questions that could be investigated; could it be possible to generate visible light using a certain gas mixture in a specific situation?
I think you and all who contribute to your efforts are amazing !! When I have the wallet, you are one of the very few on an even shorter list short list I intend to contribute. Thank you sir!
First of all, thank you so much, my friend! Me and a close friend use to share to each other your contents. We pretty often discuss about it and plan to share some of them with his students, what I'm planing to do as well when I have my own.
I love you man. I really do. so much quality, entertainment, education. But most importantly, its how you seemingly never give up on projects. Lesser channels make a project but with little to zero follow up after the fact. And I love how genuinely interested you are. It feels as if you're taking us with a journey of your own discovery instead of just being a show host.
Imagine an air conditioner that uses the heat from the sun to produce cool air without using a mechanical compressor! How cool would that be?! An even more energy-efficient and eco-friendly air-conditioner.
Exactly! I live in a desert area and something like that would be awesome 😁
You can try absorption refrigerator
@@touyaakira4602 Nope, not really the same, close though.
The unit I was thinking of would totally independent (utilized because of our 4th of July up and coming) of any
external electrical implementation (utilized because of our 4th of July, up and coming). Oh B.T.W. ( Perrrrty Kitty icon)
Thanks for the opportunity to
Clearly indicate to true circumstance of the unit in question.
the arabs have got this,
i forget what they're called, tower with vents at top leading to chamber underground or with thick walls, used to store ice.
@@eenothlho2604 already in use for wine cellars and more
I really enjoy how simple you explain complex science.
Rediscovering you after realizing that YT isn't pushing your stuff to the front of my feed. Made sure to click the bell this time. You are a Gem of the Internet!
If you were my professor when I was young, I would have become a Scientist
😂 😂 😂 i thought the same. My kids will school here on youtube.
Imagine a society without electricity being able to set up a refrigerator for their food that used no moving parts and only required they kept a fire lit in one specific spot.
Look up evaporative refridgerators, they're a lot more practical!
@@luipaardprint This is way cooler though. And it would get the kids interested in STEM lol.
Haha yeah true, this is way cooler.
Could we use plasma
@@V1ctoria00 fire is a plasma
Something cool I just now noticed while rewatching the video: At 17:20 you can see how the water on top starts boiling while you're covering the tube and then instantly stops when you move your finger away and some of the energy is converted into sound.
Please make a part 3 of this.
This is hella fascinating
I became fascinated by this subject when I read a report that staff at Los Alamos used a thermally excited acoustic heat engine to cool the tins of beer served at a staff outing, come barbecue. The solid state cooler worked by placing one end of the unit in barbecue fire, and the other in a water cooler bath for the cans of beer. The whole unit resonated at a very low frequency, emitting a low humming sound. From memory, the report showed a dumbbell shaped arrangement with an air gap between the hot and cold sides. A schematic drawing showed the arrangement of parallel metal plates, refering to the dumbbells as Holmholtz resonators. From memory, the report was in an issue of Scintific America or New Scientist.
I have since learned that the technology has found an application in nuclear submarines, but I do not have the details of what is being cooled or heated, but I believe it is the submarines electronics.
you and thought emporium are the two science channels that feel the most like they're bordering on either sci-fi or magic, I can't tell. Like, I'm always so stunned by the stuff you're explaining. Very much looking forward to the rest of this exploration, absolutely fascinating
Love your works, and yes those foam balls are just arranging where they are supposed to! You should check to see how much magnetism is around that tube while the foam balls are dancing inside, I think you will be surprised with that experiment. Your an excellent teacher as I am learning more each video you make. Awsome thanks!
Fantastic and inspiring work. Great demonstration of sound waves behaviour inside a tube.
I feel like I say this almost every time, but the production quality and quality of content of this channel is nuts. I keep saying it because it impresses me every single time, so keep it up Ben! you are doing a fantastic job that always leaves me inspired!
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Loved seeing the overview of previous "failed" builds! Always cool to see your engineering process. Please keep building new models, this is so cool!
I've been studying this for some time.
Your certainly on the path to great success.
Just found your channel and this couple of videos and I’m loving it!! Thank you for them. Look forward to seeing more of your content!
woah that thermochromic tape is super cool. i didnt know that existed! awesome series. please continue down this rabbit hole, its very interesting and im sure theres something to be learned from it.
If only he'd link us where to find some, my Google-fu is failing miserably!
You have an incredible gift, plus the drive and intelligence, to be able to consistently tranform the wonder of science into beautiful art.
This was such an outstanding demonstration! Looking forward to developing my curiosity even more
I love this series I hope you will present the third category
i do like it. for a moment, i'd thought of a traveling wave in a loop thinking i'd stumbled on to something original. was excited, and still am. it's thrown me into an imagined world using the concepts for metallurgy. developing new cheap metals is something we could all use. thanks, this has been thought provoking.
You mean something like a particle accelerator, but for sound? (Oscillating air)
I love the little smile he gives when his demonstrations work perfectly :)
This is so awesome, I hope there will be a part 3 soon!
Absolutely brilliant, please continue with this series!
Cool!
(In every sense of the word.)
new watcher here, would watch more on acoustic heating/cooling.
Yes please! I would love to learn more about this topic, with some tweaking I may be able to use one of these as a small grow tent cooler, for highland carnivorous plants, and pump the heat exhaust out the window!
Love the experiments and you always smiling.
Love your work
I have actually NEVER commented on a you tube video but I have to say, Ben, you're an amazing teacher. Thank you for your inspirational videos.
Using a cluster of smaller tubes arranged like in a conventional liquid/air cooler at a higher frequency might help solve the direct tube shell extraction method. Producing treble is more energy efficient than bass. It could scale into very high frequency coolers with relatively high energy efficiency.
or just use a heat pump
Nicola tesla would be proud we are finally uncovering how the natural system work and how we can use them to our advantage, high frequency is the key… these systems have no moving parts, unlike a heat pump
I wonder if those smaller tubes could be placed in a radiator type configuration with fan blowing through them, or passively radiating hot/cold?
@@PongoXBongo are you talking about putting it in a computer case with a computer turned on?
@@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Not really. More so using a fin stack on those heat pipes, like a CPU tower-style cooler, no case needed.
You do a great job of explaining this process when researching the james webb years ago i had to rely on very scientific definitions and diagrams... no one had a practical expirement to show how it works. Is a very simple idea but when put on paper without a nice model it seems much more complicated.
Great work. I am very interested in seeing the enhanced version of the acoustic refrigerator (with the heat transferred to the second node)
Keep up the great work !!
Super impressive, I can tell the story was well planned by how well it flowed and how easy it was to understand. I might have to build one of those polystyrene ball sounds tubes for teaching undergrad physics.
Please do! I like this demonstration far more than the standing wave of a string experiments done in my undergrad studies.
These videos are great, not just in "content", but overall quality as well. As for recommendations or thoughts on other videos, I wouldn't mind seeing things like thermoacoustics. Just stuff you don't normally consider or pay attention to, yet is fascinating if you take a moment to learn about.
More of these videos please. What a fascinating subject!
This guy has a wonderful way of explaining his self. It's easy to let the viewer get lost and just recite information to sound cool. I actually intook and consumed the information quite well and fully understood everything. A great teacher perhaps?
The first harmonic is your original wave with 2 nodes and 1 antinode, the 3 node 2 antinode is the second harmonic.
Also a very interesting video I can't wait for your next one!
Good point my friend
I've been patiently awaiting part 2. I love the methods in which you explain things, I'd be interested in seeing a collaboration between you and Steve Mould.
Your videos fill me with hope. You make science so easy
Fascinating! I’m eager to see the development of that last one - the ultimate heat sink!
You're my only source for this black magic I need more.
It's the dark energy 😁
It feels like it should be black magic! If they’d taught this in school maybe physics wouldn’t be so dreaded?
try NileRed
this is some of the coolest stuff i've ever seen, PLEASE continue with this series as far as you can, i'll watch each and every one of them repeatedly
I will watch also, thank you!
This series was amazing! Subscribed, and looking forward to an explainer to traveling wave design if you choose to make it.
This is super interesting and I love seeing the practical application.
Please continue. I'm enjoying the series.
The ideas and concepts this channel continues to produce never cease to amaze me, many of which I've never even heard of nor even dreamed possible. Keep up the fantastic work good sir, and I hope to see you include your bird in more videos :P S/He's just so darn adorable!
Your experiment reminds me of those of cymatics. Love it!
Absolutely fascinating. As a musician and speaker designer, this physics lesson really appeals to me! Thanks!
WOW, I'm totally impressed by your video. Perhaps if you had a fluid moving through the hollow copper pipes, to take the thermal energy differential thus generated, in or out of the system, it could possibly have unlimited potential uses. Imagine using the sun's heat to generate the necessary power so that you can use your thermoacoustic engine for internal cooling in buildings. Like I said, the potential of this kind of technology is practically limitless.
Definitely interested to see more! I work with sound as a composer and generally a noodler, and it's interesting how the properties of sound can be used for something mechanical like heat pumps. Very cool!
Superb video. The intimate link between acoustics, thermodynamics and heat transfer is really well explained! I suspect the heat pipe on the cold end may not have worked too well since the "evaporator" is above the condenser. Looking forward to a video on travelling wave devices.
The moment I saw that tube I instantly thought of a loop but more even a tube spiral, glad you mentioned it in the end can't wait to see it. A lot of these principles you explore feels like the missing mechanist from inside a Pyramid. The tube seems to vibrate similar to a crystal fork.
I'm fascinated by this stuff. Do as many videos as you want to, I'll never be bored.
Honestly, I never thought Science lessons could be so much fun and enjoyable.
I love how the foam balls distribute in discrete areas. Reminds me of quanta or something. Definitely a nice boltzman distribution. I think you are right about the beat phenomena being responsible and they distribute in those places because it minimizes horizontal motion in a standing wave. I bet you could take advantage of that to capture pressure differences for say an acoustic mass separator.
That's how holzman effect works 😂 sorry I'm a frank Herbert fan
I Love the concept. Thanks for your time and videos
My hs science teacher: today in class we're gonna learn about sound waves.
Me: why are we learning this? Like Is there a practical way we can use this?
HS teacher: sit down and shut up.
25 years later Nighthawklight: Today were gonna learn about sound waves. And we're gonna make a fridge out of it.
Me: Surprise Pikachu face. Listening intensifies.
Same. I just learned about standing waves as a lab experiment. A tuning fork and a resonating tube.
What is the practical use? No one ever taught us.
@@SF-li9kh Thanks to standardized testing the teachers are incentivized to shift focus from "why" to "how". That way there is more time for repeating calculations (improving your standardized test results) and far less motivation/application (which would improve your understanding of a topic, your creativity and your problem solving skills).
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Nikola Tesla - 'If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.' I love that guy. Brilliant and looney, can't have one without the udder.
As I continue to dive further into the STEM realm I'm beginning to learn that what you say is pretty accurate.
Tesla had udders?😳
@@revimfadli4666 HAA!
The sound-tube reminds me of a basic form of spectrum analyzer. Awesome explanation.
very cool.
There was something I saw using a bose style acoustic wave guide to amplify the sound-wave from a very small speaker on one end and transmit a much larger energy pulse to a diaphragm on the other end. The diaphragm was then coupled to a rod which powered a piston compressor for the refrigerator. The article stated that inside the wave-guide the sound level was amplified to an astounding 500 decibels! It also stated that if you were to open up the wave guide while it was in operation that it would disrupt the waveform and there would be almost no sound or energy inside the wave-guide enclosure.
I thought this would be a revolution in the field of cooling and applicable to many other devices as well but I've not seen the device being implemented yet and it's been a few years now since I saw the concept explained from an M.I.T. paper.
Thanks for the research lead