Kong Hee after coming out from jail, lift his head up, no more impatient, hot headed younger self. Now is tempered by humility, knowledge that after tomorrow still got to face everybody. This face is so sincere, so golden precious. Same cannot be said about another pastor that still not tasted loosing everything. Khong Hee is a higher man, JP not yet reach.
I remember one Sunday morning many years ago (not sure which Sunday), I was in the toilet next to my room while the TV in my room was showing the Sunday message from NCC. Suddenly from the TV, I heard Joseph Prince declaring and saying "I see an 'old' man on the toilet bowl .. he has this xxxx (a very general condition or pain) .. I heard God say that He is healing you right now .. " Wow, what do you think when you heard this kind of healing 'prophecy' or when your condition is called out just like this? Of course, you will check and see if God is really healing you or speaking to you; but on second thought, you would ask, How many men are really 'old' and are in the toilets now, and which one is he is referring to now? This is really madness. If he continues to declare and prophesy all the conditions, pains, and sicknesses one by one in this way every Sunday, very soon the whole Singapore will write to him and say that they 'suspect' that they were the one God had spoken to and healed in one way or another (even though they might not be really healed supernaturally). Nowadays, things are getting more and more 'interesting' whenever Joseph Prince comes out to preach. You never know what 'new' nonsense he will come up with every Sunday. If you have no love ones who are living under his deception and bondages, you might just enjoy all the 'nonsense' that he can come up with; however, if you have loved ones who keep listening to him, you would pray that he will stop. May God help you to expose him too.
Yes, of course, Joseph Prince and Kenneth Copeland are of the same 'pack'. It is a known fact that they are *PARTNERS* long before this interview by Jeremy Pearsons the grandson of Kenneth Copeland: ua-cam.com/video/yO7NBfpaobY/v-deo.html If you think that Kenneth Copeland is a prosperity preacher and false prophet, you should know that Joseph Prince is his *'partner'* too. You never know how much support or financial backing he has got from Kenneth Copeland (the richest pastor in USA) and how much Joseph Prince has helped the Kenneth Copeland ministry all these years. So, if Joseph Prince says that he is not a prosperity preacher, he is lying. I remember in those days in the 1990s when Kenneth Copeland came to Singapore and spoke at the conferences in the hotels and stadium, how Joseph Prince was that young and dynamic worship leader, and how the donations in the conferences were collected (a few rounds), and .. etc. They all seemed to start well with such a good passion and fire for the Lord. However, no one knew that they would one day evolve into the richest 'wolves' in USA and Singapore.
Ok, relating to the 'hair' business again, I would think that you do not really need to do like Joseph Prince, like speaking to your hair to 'grow' it. You can go to some very good hair treatment centers and get it done within hours by using hair planting techniques cum customization of a wig. Yes, I am quite concerned with my hair too. That's why Jesus knew that it is not only the *MAIN CONCERN* of both men and women 2000 years ago; but also today. However, did Jesus tell us to speak to our hair and grow it? I cannot find it in the Bible. Yes, of course, Joseph Prince might argue that you should follow him and confess it for your hair (everyday) without the need to wait until after you get your resurrected body, because Jesus has given us the power to speak and make things happen. However, I will ask him, Are you going to tell us to speak to the bread and multiply it too, since Jesus has demonstrated to you that He can multiply bread? Jesus has mentioned about our concern about hair; however, He never mentioned that we can do anything about it. Similarly, He has multiplied bread; but He never tell us to multiply bread too: Mat 5:36-37 KJV Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one *hair* white or black. (37) But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil. Mat 10:29-32 KJV Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. (30) But the very *hairs* of your head are all numbered. (31) Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.. Please think, If we can speak to our hair and hair grows, or speak to the bread and bread multiplies, do you know what will happen to our world?
Honestly I can tell you that I am concerned with my hair because I don't have much hair too, but I am *NOT* going to the hair treatment centers to 'grow' more hair, even though my wife tells me to go for it. However, thank God that she didn't ask me to let Joseph Prince lay hands on me or speak to my hair; otherwise, I might come under the bondage of Joseph Prince too ! And of course, Joseph Prince would become richer because all the wives think that he can grow hair for their husbands, and they would not mind giving all the money that they can save from visiting the hair treatment centers to Joseph Prince ! You think this is a joke? No, I think this is serious ! This is true, and this is (one of the reasons) why he and Kenneth Copeland are so rich now !
So, do you think that he will believe it if you prophesy to him and say, "Hair grows", "Bread multiplies", "Trees dies", "Mosquitoes die", "Money grows", and .. etc. ? Of course, no. It is because he believes it only if he himself says it or his Pastor Mark says it. So, can you understand why there is always a sly grinning smile on his face? He is laughing inside because he knows that his fans and audience are all fools who have come under his hypnotic control. He knows that, in order to 'save' themselves and their face, they would try to speak for him and defend him for all the heresies that have made them into a fool because they have no choice but to keep on believing in him, unless they are willing to humble themselves and repent. Obviously, he has done the 'calculation' and he can tell you that the majority are the unrepentant who prefer to remain as fools rather than wake up and repent. Yes, he seems to be the winner with the control of people's minds; however, he will have to 'pay' for it, and it is going to cost him very 'dearly'. Yes, he may flaunt off his money, building, and resources including his partners money to promote a 'Christ' that has prospered him, but all the money that he can show will show that his Christ is just a false Christ that will crave and use up your money. ------------------- In the past (in the Old Testament) when the people sinned, the prophets would come and speak to them. Similarly, today there are still people who sin. However, who will come and speak to them? Of course, you won't find prophets speaking to them now; instead, you will find God's words speaking to them. How will God's words speak to them? Of course, you still need someone to speak out the words. I believe that we are now living in the New Testament when you don't need a prophet to speak to you, but you still need someone filled with the Spirit to speak out the words of God and that someone can be you or anyone. The Word or the Spirit of God will inspire you when you know that you need to speak out for Him. However, we must be careful because the sharpest part of the word which can cut the most will also make people tremble the most - please speak with care, especially when you need to use the sharpest part (the law of God) to deal with people (like Joseph Prince). Now we know the difference between how God speaks to us in the past (in the Old Testament) and now (in the New Testament). However, do we know that there is still one similarity? That is: Whether God will speak through His prophets or speak through us, God always speak to His people; not the world. I am not talking about preaching the gospel to world; but speaking with God's words to the church or God's people. In the last days, God will raise up people to speak for Him (not just the pastors, elders, or deacons). It is because, many times, you will find that some pastors in the church (like the priests or Levites in the temple in the Old Testament) have become so carried away with their 'functions' to take care of the sheep and their feelings that they no longer hear from God. So, when this happens, the 'prophets' will come. That's why I believe that the ministry of the prophets is still necessary in the last days when the pastors might no longer 'function' independently to speak out the words of God truthfully. They need someone outside the church (like a prophet) who will speak out the words of God to them, to rebuke, to correct, and to prophesy (like Samuel), especially when a pastor (like king Saul) can no longer lead the church. Some of you might say that we can just ask another pastor (or a group of pastors like the church council) to speak to him. However, what if all the other pastors (including the church council) are all blinded by his heresies too? Of course, I am not a prophet; but, when God tells me to speak, I must speak and I must let the people know that, whenever Samuel spoke, Peter spoke, Paul spoke, or we spoke, we did not judge; God is the one who judged. So, if something happened because we spoke, God is the one who made it happen. We are just the 'delivery boys' who must do our job. Please do not blame any of us here.
many are not blind, they are seeking more money, more health, not God and so JP is their devil-sent. For those seeking God, thank God for this channel, Rev George Ong and all those here who share their real life experiences, so that they know to stay away.
Please ask ourselves this honest question: Has God ever called out anyone without calling the person "NAME" in The Bible? Our God is not a God of confusion! He calls out specifically the "name" of the person in The Bible everytime!! So that there's no confusion!! While JP can't!! Come on NCC goers! Please wake up! Many of you are highly educated yet willing to believe a man prophesy when JP himself said he is not a prophet!! ( See! He is obviously do not want to be liable to his own words! ) If JP said he is not a prophet then why does he keep on prophesying?? Is he ok or not? Indeed JP is trying his luck since there are thousands of people out there! Simply just say "There someone here or some one with this condition or that condition or someone watching online.... etc" You mean this kind of calling is so annoiting? I think you and i can try to call out by saying "someone here...." surely we will get somebody with the conditions mentioned since there are thousands of people out there! Thank God our Lord Jesus knows us by our names!! 🙏🏼
🕯️🕯️🕯️📖🕯️🕯️🕯️ Colossians 2:8-9 AMP [8] See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception [pseudo-intellectual babble], according to the tradition [and musings] of mere men, following the elementary principles of this world, rather than following [the truth-the teachings of] Christ. [9] For in Him all the fullness of Deity (the Godhead) dwells in bodily form [completely expressing the divine essence of God].
Jo Joghinder Singh Go to a Bible college Pray ! Read the Word Stop trying to impress Stop your vanity Stop your deception Stop your vain threats Repent while you still have breath
The real manna is the word of God by which our souls are nourished. So don't waste your money and time buying and listening to his sermons 24/7 Forget about paying your fees for expensive building maintenance and rental. There are other well-deserving places
JP’s mentor Paul the apostle, was bald according to traditions. Maybe I didn’t study the Bible well, I could not find Paul speaking to his hair to grow.
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But who are you Rev George and all of you people in this chat, to judge him? For the same measure of judgement you put unto others, may be used unto you, and doesn’t the bible say, that judgement is not for us, but God? So, it’s probably best to stop judging and leave that with God, instead if we do not accept JP’s preaching and deem it as false, just don’t listen. Move on and listen to those whom you feel convicted to listen to by the discernment gift given to each one of us through the Holy Spirit.
Its not judging. Its examination, questioning and evaluation of teachings. If A tells B : who are you to judge C, then A is also judging B. How? Who is A to tell B ?
If that is the case, Apostle Paul has sinned. " you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.[a]" - 1 Cor 5:5
In fact, Rev George is exactly "doing the greater works", by defending God's word from heretic teachings like Joseph Prince's. "But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep." - 1 Peter 2:1-3 Are you saying that Apostle Peter should not have judged false teachers? And if he did so, was it only because he was an Apostle? Or he judged according to God's word? And if it is the latter, that sets us on equal ground to be defending the truth. The question is, who is telling the truth? Wanna find out? Let's debate based on God's word.
Besides reading the Bible and this Rev GO channel, there are also many international channels doing an awesome job of exposing JP's teachings. If you think his teachings are unquestionable and not heretical, then its time to introspect and examine this hidden assumption buried in your subconscious
Kong Hee after coming out from jail, lift his head up, no more impatient, hot headed younger self. Now is tempered by humility, knowledge that after tomorrow still got to face everybody. This face is so sincere, so golden precious.
Same cannot be said about another pastor that still not tasted loosing everything.
Khong Hee is a higher man, JP not yet reach.
Agreed. I can see God's delight in Kong Hee.
I remember one Sunday morning many years ago (not sure which Sunday), I was in the toilet next to my room while the TV in my room was showing the Sunday message from NCC. Suddenly from the TV, I heard Joseph Prince declaring and saying "I see an 'old' man on the toilet bowl .. he has this xxxx (a very general condition or pain) .. I heard God say that He is healing you right now .. "
Wow, what do you think when you heard this kind of healing 'prophecy' or when your condition is called out just like this? Of course, you will check and see if God is really healing you or speaking to you; but on second thought, you would ask, How many men are really 'old' and are in the toilets now, and which one is he is referring to now? This is really madness. If he continues to declare and prophesy all the conditions, pains, and sicknesses one by one in this way every Sunday, very soon the whole Singapore will write to him and say that they 'suspect' that they were the one God had spoken to and healed in one way or another (even though they might not be really healed supernaturally).
Nowadays, things are getting more and more 'interesting' whenever Joseph Prince comes out to preach. You never know what 'new' nonsense he will come up with every Sunday. If you have no love ones who are living under his deception and bondages, you might just enjoy all the 'nonsense' that he can come up with; however, if you have loved ones who keep listening to him, you would pray that he will stop. May God help you to expose him too.
Yes, of course, Joseph Prince and Kenneth Copeland are of the same 'pack'. It is a known fact that they are *PARTNERS* long before this interview by Jeremy Pearsons the grandson of Kenneth Copeland: ua-cam.com/video/yO7NBfpaobY/v-deo.html
If you think that Kenneth Copeland is a prosperity preacher and false prophet, you should know that Joseph Prince is his *'partner'* too. You never know how much support or financial backing he has got from Kenneth Copeland (the richest pastor in USA) and how much Joseph Prince has helped the Kenneth Copeland ministry all these years. So, if Joseph Prince says that he is not a prosperity preacher, he is lying. I remember in those days in the 1990s when Kenneth Copeland came to Singapore and spoke at the conferences in the hotels and stadium, how Joseph Prince was that young and dynamic worship leader, and how the donations in the conferences were collected (a few rounds), and .. etc. They all seemed to start well with such a good passion and fire for the Lord. However, no one knew that they would one day evolve into the richest 'wolves' in USA and Singapore.
Ok, relating to the 'hair' business again, I would think that you do not really need to do like Joseph Prince, like speaking to your hair to 'grow' it. You can go to some very good hair treatment centers and get it done within hours by using hair planting techniques cum customization of a wig.
Yes, I am quite concerned with my hair too. That's why Jesus knew that it is not only the *MAIN CONCERN* of both men and women 2000 years ago; but also today. However, did Jesus tell us to speak to our hair and grow it? I cannot find it in the Bible. Yes, of course, Joseph Prince might argue that you should follow him and confess it for your hair (everyday) without the need to wait until after you get your resurrected body, because Jesus has given us the power to speak and make things happen. However, I will ask him, Are you going to tell us to speak to the bread and multiply it too, since Jesus has demonstrated to you that He can multiply bread?
Jesus has mentioned about our concern about hair; however, He never mentioned that we can do anything about it. Similarly, He has multiplied bread; but He never tell us to multiply bread too:
Mat 5:36-37 KJV Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one *hair* white or black. (37) But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Mat 10:29-32 KJV Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. (30) But the very *hairs* of your head are all numbered. (31) Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows..
Please think, If we can speak to our hair and hair grows, or speak to the bread and bread multiplies, do you know what will happen to our world?
Honestly I can tell you that I am concerned with my hair because I don't have much hair too, but I am *NOT* going to the hair treatment centers to 'grow' more hair, even though my wife tells me to go for it. However, thank God that she didn't ask me to let Joseph Prince lay hands on me or speak to my hair; otherwise, I might come under the bondage of Joseph Prince too ! And of course, Joseph Prince would become richer because all the wives think that he can grow hair for their husbands, and they would not mind giving all the money that they can save from visiting the hair treatment centers to Joseph Prince ! You think this is a joke? No, I think this is serious ! This is true, and this is (one of the reasons) why he and Kenneth Copeland are so rich now !
So, do you think that he will believe it if you prophesy to him and say, "Hair grows", "Bread multiplies", "Trees dies", "Mosquitoes die", "Money grows", and .. etc. ? Of course, no. It is because he believes it only if he himself says it or his Pastor Mark says it. So, can you understand why there is always a sly grinning smile on his face? He is laughing inside because he knows that his fans and audience are all fools who have come under his hypnotic control. He knows that, in order to 'save' themselves and their face, they would try to speak for him and defend him for all the heresies that have made them into a fool because they have no choice but to keep on believing in him, unless they are willing to humble themselves and repent. Obviously, he has done the 'calculation' and he can tell you that the majority are the unrepentant who prefer to remain as fools rather than wake up and repent. Yes, he seems to be the winner with the control of people's minds; however, he will have to 'pay' for it, and it is going to cost him very 'dearly'. Yes, he may flaunt off his money, building, and resources including his partners money to promote a 'Christ' that has prospered him, but all the money that he can show will show that his Christ is just a false Christ that will crave and use up your money.
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In the past (in the Old Testament) when the people sinned, the prophets would come and speak to them. Similarly, today there are still people who sin. However, who will come and speak to them? Of course, you won't find prophets speaking to them now; instead, you will find God's words speaking to them. How will God's words speak to them? Of course, you still need someone to speak out the words. I believe that we are now living in the New Testament when you don't need a prophet to speak to you, but you still need someone filled with the Spirit to speak out the words of God and that someone can be you or anyone. The Word or the Spirit of God will inspire you when you know that you need to speak out for Him. However, we must be careful because the sharpest part of the word which can cut the most will also make people tremble the most - please speak with care, especially when you need to use the sharpest part (the law of God) to deal with people (like Joseph Prince).
Now we know the difference between how God speaks to us in the past (in the Old Testament) and now (in the New Testament). However, do we know that there is still one similarity? That is: Whether God will speak through His prophets or speak through us, God always speak to His people; not the world. I am not talking about preaching the gospel to world; but speaking with God's words to the church or God's people. In the last days, God will raise up people to speak for Him (not just the pastors, elders, or deacons). It is because, many times, you will find that some pastors in the church (like the priests or Levites in the temple in the Old Testament) have become so carried away with their 'functions' to take care of the sheep and their feelings that they no longer hear from God. So, when this happens, the 'prophets' will come. That's why I believe that the ministry of the prophets is still necessary in the last days when the pastors might no longer 'function' independently to speak out the words of God truthfully. They need someone outside the church (like a prophet) who will speak out the words of God to them, to rebuke, to correct, and to prophesy (like Samuel), especially when a pastor (like king Saul) can no longer lead the church. Some of you might say that we can just ask another pastor (or a group of pastors like the church council) to speak to him. However, what if all the other pastors (including the church council) are all blinded by his heresies too?
Of course, I am not a prophet; but, when God tells me to speak, I must speak and I must let the people know that, whenever Samuel spoke, Peter spoke, Paul spoke, or we spoke, we did not judge; God is the one who judged. So, if something happened because we spoke, God is the one who made it happen. We are just the 'delivery boys' who must do our job. Please do not blame any of us here.
It makes me wonder why so many are so naive...are they really so blind??
many are not blind, they are seeking more money, more health, not God and so JP is their devil-sent. For those seeking God, thank God for this channel, Rev George Ong and all those here who share their real life experiences, so that they know to stay away.
Please ask ourselves this honest question: Has God ever called out anyone without calling the person "NAME" in The Bible?
Our God is not a God of confusion!
He calls out specifically the "name" of the person in The Bible everytime!! So that there's no confusion!!
While JP can't!!
Come on NCC goers! Please wake up! Many of you are highly educated yet willing to believe a man prophesy when JP himself said he is not a prophet!! ( See! He is obviously do not want to be liable to his own words! )
If JP said he is not a prophet then why does he keep on prophesying??
Is he ok or not?
Indeed JP is trying his luck since there are thousands of people out there! Simply just say "There someone here or some one with this condition or that condition or someone watching online.... etc"
You mean this kind of calling is so annoiting?
I think you and i can try to call out by saying "someone here...." surely we will get somebody with the conditions mentioned since there are thousands of people out there!
Thank God our Lord Jesus knows us by our names!! 🙏🏼
🕯️🕯️🕯️📖🕯️🕯️🕯️
Colossians 2:8-9 AMP
[8] See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception [pseudo-intellectual babble], according to the tradition [and musings] of mere men, following the elementary principles of this world, rather than following [the truth-the teachings of] Christ.
[9] For in Him all the fullness of Deity (the Godhead) dwells in bodily form [completely expressing the divine essence of God].
Jo Joghinder Singh
Go to a Bible college
Pray !
Read the Word
Stop trying to impress
Stop your vanity
Stop your deception
Stop your vain threats
Repent while you still have breath
The real manna is the word of God by which our souls are nourished.
So don't waste your money and time buying and listening to his sermons 24/7
Forget about paying your fees for expensive building maintenance and rental. There are other well-deserving places
We will be judged by how we live our lives and especially how we treat outsiders. God is not going to favor any group or religion.
JP’s mentor Paul the apostle, was bald according to traditions. Maybe I didn’t study the Bible well, I could not find Paul speaking to his hair
to grow.
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Pastor Joseph "Conman" Prince
3:41 kenneth copeland.....
there is no love in this man (KC) eyes....
it is so cold & calculating......
so KC is sifu to JP.
This so called Joseph Prince is not correct in his preaching of THE HOLY BIBLE.
He preaches the world's sweetest, most comfortable, most ultra heart-warming and most relaxing gospel. Spiritually unhealthy
But who are you Rev George and all of you people in this chat, to judge him? For the same measure of judgement you put unto others, may be used unto you, and doesn’t the bible say, that judgement is not for us, but God? So, it’s probably best to stop judging and leave that with God, instead if we do not accept JP’s preaching and deem it as false, just don’t listen. Move on and listen to those whom you feel convicted to listen to by the discernment gift given to each one of us through the Holy Spirit.
Its not judging. Its examination, questioning and evaluation of teachings. If A tells B : who are you to judge C, then A is also judging B. How? Who is A to tell B ?
If that is the case, Apostle Paul has sinned. " you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.[a]" - 1 Cor 5:5
In fact, Rev George is exactly "doing the greater works", by defending God's word from heretic teachings like Joseph Prince's.
"But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep." - 1 Peter 2:1-3
Are you saying that Apostle Peter should not have judged false teachers? And if he did so, was it only because he was an Apostle? Or he judged according to God's word? And if it is the latter, that sets us on equal ground to be defending the truth. The question is, who is telling the truth? Wanna find out? Let's debate based on God's word.
Besides reading the Bible and this Rev GO channel, there are also many international channels doing an awesome job of exposing JP's teachings. If you think his teachings are unquestionable and not heretical, then its time to introspect and examine this hidden assumption buried in your subconscious
"That very church which the world likes best is sure to be that which God abhors" Charles Spurgeon