@@markharrison6498and they all have connections with each other 👀 trust me. I used to watch family vloggers back in 2017, when I first became a mom. It took a year to realize that they’re all the same - shitty af.
There's no way children are malnourished and being duct taped without the husband knowing. Maybe he was a victim early on, but he still needs to be held accountable for whatever was happening to the children under that roof.
i could be wrong but i believe the husband hasn’t lived in their home for a few years now (they may be divorced but idk) and when he did live in the home he travelled for weeks at a time for work.
@@taylorfawn2012That doesn’t excuse anything. He was fully aware of what the mother was doing. He was in multiple videos defending their mistreatment. Them sending Chad to the wilderness camp for a silly little prank and not feeding the kids until they do their chores. He was seeing and hearing it all.
Exactly what i said when i heard that. Like the reason your child is sneaking around is because you have not made yourself a safe person for them to tell things to. It’s your failure as a parent that is the reason they’re sneaking around in the first place.
@SugarPeachPrincess It's also just apart of growing up in general, not to downplay the abuse ofc. But legit everyone I know had a phase where they grew distant from their parents.
My mom sent me to Mormon girls camp when I was a kid. A mom/leader did a talk about how she struggled with depression but fixed it by remembering to keep smiling and acting happy no matter what her feelings were because it was her responsibility to cheer up/lift up her husband and family, not to bring them down. So that's the glaze I think. The smile which becomes meaningless because it's plastered on over every emotion.
Wow! Reminds me of when I used to watch the Shaytards, and Shay kept saying happiness was a choice and people just weren’t trying to be happy. I remember he got backlash and doubled down. Then years later the cheating and drinking came to light.
As a person who was raised Mormon, the “Mormon glaze” is a great way to describe that look in the face and the inappropriate toxic positive attitude with everything.
Utah is also the MLM capital of the world. Look at any MLM promotional photos and gatherings, you'll definitely see the "glaze" and the toxic positivity! Utah people definitely have a "look".
Don’t blanket all of utah with that explanation, it’s a beautiful state with plenty of normal people Mormon or not. Broad generalizations are the epitome of ignorance.
My dad was like this, he said we dont get personal space ever because hes our father :( he reminded me at age 30, so it didnt stop at 18, but it got better because i wasnt living under his authority.
Mormons are indoctrinated to have kids. They are told that there are millions of spirit children waiting to get bodies, and it's their duty to have as many as possible. The problem is that not everyone should be a parent!
The audacity to say 'This is MY house' when it's most certainly bought with money she earned because of her children...she is unbelievable. I hope she never gets to see those poor kids again.
hoping ruby gets no personal space and no privacy in jail. no respect. no dignity. no friends. no confidence. no support. no love. no grace. NOTHING. she deserves less than what she gave her children, which was NOTHING.
@@RockinashyYpu live near Ruby’s sister Ellie then. Did you ever hear any rumours about Carl and Jinger having swinger parties? He put out a video yesterday suggesting as much.
Right!!! I always think about her concerning child celebrities. The later extreme negative repercussions of early age “fame” are way more common than people think. I mean imagine the level of trauma regular day to day citizens have and how hard it is to overcome. And imagine it tenfold for these specific children. It makes me sick thinking about the amount of therapy they will all need if they even choose to seek out the help.
The scary part about this is that in the footage it comes across as she ENJOYS embarrassing and abusing her children...while shes explaining all these insane punishments her kids experienced shes smiling..this woman is sick and I hope shes enjoying prison where child abusers are not looked at nicely and these woman actually love and miss their kids. may she come in contact with these women soon. AMEN
"ENJOYS embarrassing and abusing her children" This is what struck me too. There is a look all these people get - it's the same exact smug smile teetering on a laugh/eye-roll.
All the Griffith sisters do this. It’s normal to them because it’s how they were raised. Their mother emotionally abused them so they are now doing it to their kids.
@@Lucaz99 They all vlog and one of them thought it would be fun to upload their old home movies. The emotional abuse and narcissism is pretty obvious in the videos. Ruby can be seen to have a nervous twitch whenever she thinks her mom is going to get upset about something. The Christmas videos were very enlightening. The kids would get only things they needed like underwear, sheets, crayons, while the mother got herself designer items under the guise of being able to hand them down to get children one day. Two of her kids were somehow sharing a winter coat until one got a new one for Christmas. It was so sad how excited that sister was to get her own coat 😢
@@murderofcrows7738 Jesus Christ. That’s actually horrifying. As someone who came from Brazil, I’ve seen families be so poor that the kids had to live like that. So poor that kids would have to go out into the streets looking/begging for food. But I have never seen someone willingly put their kids in this position despite not needing to. The fact that she can even afford a designer handbag shows they were far from being poor. Imagine being born into privilege but not having access to that privilege since you were born because your mother is a crazy narcissist and your father seems absent. Ruby Franke is just history repeating itself. But this time she met someone who made her even more evil than her mother. JODI.
@@SarahTheNearlyInSP there's actually a corellation between religious families being more likely to abuse their children. Don't act special, organized religion is a cancer that should have died when science started proving them all wrong.
I HATE when parents "prank" their children by making them sad, upset or hurt any other way. Thats so cruel... and especially putting it on the internet for people to see...
I hate this shit too! I don’t even like when some of my family members try to upset my now 1 yo by like pinching her cheeks or tugging her hair to get a reaction. Like STOP. She’s not bothering anyone, she’s not a puppy, you don’t need a reaction from a baby. The fact I’ve had to tell so many of them to stop, like why do I have to do that. It’s just freaking weird.
I hope the dad is being monitored too and those kids are being checked in on by authorities. He's in on all of this and was in a video not long ago with the mom defending their abusive parenting tactics.
@@DoritoBot9000FYI, the husband has been the ex-husband for 3 years now, they haven’t lived together for years. Yes, I believe he is complicit with the abuse but the aggravated child abuse? Idk. We don’t know when the duct taping and extreme starvation begun or if the dad was in the picture or not. I believe Ruby got custody of the kids though because it was said he was living together with the oldest brother, Chad some years ago.
@patysolom If I remember correctly then the mom had been drifting away from the husband and towards even more extremely religious rhetoric for a few years now. I wouldn’t be surprised if the abuse got dramatically worse recently while the dad was out of the picture. Not that he wasn’t complicit in something. Clearly the videos while they were still together were awful too.
It’s so disgusting that this went on as long as it did with so many people reporting her to CPS. Those poor kids had to deal with so much abuse before anyone helped them.
There's certain types of people that watch family vlog channels that have nothing better than to call CPS with all kinds of accusations. I'd say they'd be a big part of the reason for the truth taking so long to come to light.
The idea of profiting purely off your kids and then turning around and claiming that your home is "your" space, not allowing them access to their bedrooms and lunches is so wild to me.. those kids are paying for the house and the food yet they're being refused it on the token of "mom's in charge" lol
The part that the kids are playing for the house is SO REAL. Her channel is ONLY popular because of her children. she would not be NEARLY as popular if the channel did not involve her kids.
As long as CPS or the cops see a clean, nice house & someone well-spoken - they are reluctant, it gets harder & harder to report. THE SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN!!
I was abused by my parents, even threatened with a knife by my dad. The whole family, police and my friends wouldn't believe me. I escaped that house as a 19 year old and still dealt with my dad for a few years after that because I was gas light so much. I'm so mentally ill now but I'm getting therapy. Everyone suffering abuse or do get abused, stay strong. It does get better. It stays with you but with support you can still have a good life.
Sending you all the love. Getting out of the house is a game changer. I still have a relationship with my abusive parents because things improved so much after I moved MULTIPLE states away. And it’s not easy, like you said this shit haunts you and it will continuously try to bring you down.
As a former CPS worker, I will say it takes a significant amount to take children from the home. It’s unfortunate but that’s just how state law works in many places. Trust me when I say there was plenty of times when I wanted to take kids from the home and was told no by my supervisors. CPS and the police can only operate off of state law and policy. Blame the law makers
I work with families, not CPS, but sometimes we have to make that call and coordinate with CPS. I agree that it usually takes a lot even when the worker and our team agrees that the kids should not be in a certain home. I truly feel that the perception of kids being removed left and right is skewed and sometimes CPS can be a great resource for getting families certain help to be able to keep their kids and be healthy. Not saying there are no serious issues in children and family services overall and in specific, but just my observation around what people usually think
My teenager literally has two rules, don’t lie to me and don’t drink and drive. That’s it. She has her own privacy, I don’t go through her phone, and she is the best kid, she has great friends, makes good grades plays two sports, and talks to me about EVERYTHING. It’s a no judgement zone. She’s going to make mistakes, she’s going to be lazy sometimes but isn’t everyone? I don’t put high expectations to her because we’re all human and and she sets her own standards for her life and she is becoming a great human being who i am so proud of. ❤️
Love this! Some Parents fail to understand that if you model respect with your child they will be more likely to respect you in return. Also that our kids don’t owe us anything, they didn’t ask to be here. It’s our jobs as parents to guide them and provide for them, not the other way around.
@@g-6-well you get what OP meant. i can tell i share with my mom everything but it doesn’t mean literally every single detail of life it means sharing all the important stuff (i don’t think you’d share literal 100% with anyone. that’s just not necessary)
We gre up with 4 families as our close family friends. The parents who were the strictest (and who judged the other parents the most) has the kids that rebelled the most. And the ones who had the most strained relationships with their parents. The rest of us still made mistakes and did dumb shit. But we didn’t go WILD when we got a modicum of freedom. Of course it’s anecdotal, but it’s interesting.
She took chads room away and he slept on a bean bag for 7 months because of a mean prank on his brother. Now she’s sleeping in a jail bunk for hopefully over 7 years. That’s some karma for her evil az
I’m not surprised she was arrested. The signs WERE ALWAYS THERE! Literally she said she took his door and made him sleep on a BEAN BAG CHAIR for 6+ months. How is that not child abuse right there?? Or how she wouldn’t MAKE A LUNCH for her 6 year old child. She told a teacher that her 6 year old is responsible for making her lunch in the morning. What is she supposed to make?? She can’t even work a microwave probably! And if she didn’t bring it, the mom wasn’t going to bring it. And said she hopes NO ONE GIVES HER FOOD TO MAKE HER LEARN A LESSON. The teacher asked her to bring one and she said no. That’s troubling and should of been counted as abuse.
It really troubled me the way she justified it by saying "I asked her if she made a lunch and she said yes". Of course she said yes, she's probably terrified of the possible consequences if she tells you she forgot or doesn't how to do it.
Shocking that parent's like this never really consider what the relationship with their children will be after they're all grown up. I'd hate to have raised kids only for them to hate me and never want anything to do with me after they left the home, let alone reporting me to the police.
I’m pretty sure abusers like that don’t really think about the repercussions of their actions while they’re doing it. Some people hate their children and wouldn’t care, but others genuinely think they’re in the right or doing the right thing by being abusive. Those are the ones who are usually shocked when their children want nothing to do with them later on in life.
I know this sounds crazy but I am grateful my parents were SO awful that it is perfectly reasonable for me to never speak to them again. I have so many friends with almost-terrible parents who are trapped in obligations I will never have. Yes, this is sad but it could be worse - I could find myself in their company, supporting them, bailing them out or listening to their rage filled entitlement.
Ruby’s own parents were abusive to her. She had to be “grown” at age 5 so she could take care of her younger siblings because her mom was always focused on the latest baby. As she got pregnant again she’d push the poor little one away and make them the responsibility of the other kids. Ruby never had her own space, her own room, or her own life. She lived to please her Narcissist mother and was taught that being a mother meant you were then privileged and could do whatever you want. It doesn’t excuse what she turned into in any way, but it does explain it. Her youngest sister Ellie is exactly like Ruby used to be too, only no one wants to see it just as they didn’t when Ruby’s channel was at its peak. Too many mormons are the fans watching. They want to believe the lies.
@@lavi1218I am so jealous of you that you don't understand what being "trapped into obligations" means. I live this reality. For many people, it relates to their parents. The amount of fear, sheer terror, that one feels at the thought of saying No to an abusive parent about anything..... it's awful. You don't want to be seen as a bad person. ...
I went off on a Mormon dad at Horseshoe Bend. He was dragging his (maybe 10 year old) daughter across the parking lot by her hair. When confronted about it, he said “I’m making sure she’s safe”… unbelievable gaslighting. I chewed him out! I think about that girl all the time.
Huge red flag is forcing your 6 yr old to pack their own lunch with no help. They have no capacity to understand true responsibility. As someone who’s mom never taught them to cook or take responsibility for themselves I had to learn when I was old enough to and it didn’t make my life easier at all. Parents need to teach kids how to do things…how else do they learn?
At 6 I was packing my own lunch as parents both did shift work and we rarely saw them. My brother and I ate yogurt bars and biscuits for 1 month until my teacher contacted home. We were yelled at for being stupid.... I was 6, of course I'm going to grab biscuits (cookie) 😂
also, I'm sorry but I 100% would believe just from the shown clips that this woman is capable of what she's done. Those are all signs of abuse but it's easy for these people to hide it. They are good at it. They are manipulators.
@@montse4690Any idea why people refuse to believe Ellie is the same way despite literally following in Ruby’s messed up footsteps? Jackson was made to parent Calvin at 3 or 4 just as Shari had to look after Chad! What is this mist that Ellie has that makes people ignore her emotional abuse and covert narcissism while able to see Ruby’s for the same things?
@@Mommy_Moss from the start lol Ruby and Kevin were always trying to make a lesson out of EVERYTHING (back in the day I thought it was because they wanted content but now I can tell It wasn't). there were obvious signs of violence now that I look back at what I used to watch, from not bringing her young daughter (of five I think) lunch cause she forgot to pack it and it was her "responsability". to even putting the pressure on Sheri to be her fucking eyes when she wasn't around and seeing the dynamic of Sheri always looking for her approval on video, so sad. you could tell the kids were so much under pressure because they truly wanted to sell us a "perfect white conservative" family look.
The husband is obviously an evil lunatic, too! Children are hungry, emaciated, bound, etc. Of course he is aware of the horrific abuse of his children. Two monsters!
I remember back in the day, there was a video of the mom trying to explain how she took away the bed of one of the older boys. Later he was sent to a facility to "teach him stuff". It was very disturbing even back then.
@@clamshelljuiceyes it was a wilderness camp that was known for not having adequately trained counselors and multiple kids came out abused, injured etc. and then he had to sleep on a beanbag for 7 months after being sent to wilderness camp
@@2turg_2furious yeah ive heard terrible things about wilderness camps like camps also punishing children by removing their source to food and making it impossible for the child to just leave by keeping them stuck in the middle of nowhere.
Unfortunately this is really common. CPS is FLOODED with cases, and the workers are often given an impossible workload and stacked with an insurmountable amount of cases to triage, sort, and decide on a path of action/inaction. It’s so frustrating because a lot of cases slip through the cracks because there isn’t enough evidence, or there are cases that are more severe. It’s super unfortunate, and it shouldn’t be that way, but it is.
Another thing with Mormon communities is everyone knows each other and many times a blind eye is turned because maybe she knows a cop or a cop is in her ward that kind of thing. Growing up in a Mormon town a lot of bad things just don’t get talked about to keep the positive image that is so important to the religion
Apparently the father is trying to get the kids but he is almost just as bad. He was just as abusive as Ruby back before she was separated from him. From what I know, Ruby got much more abusive after Connexions and he stood with them for a while and was even a mod for their page. It’s worrying really. I hope the kids go to another family member instead. Shari and Chad seem to safe and in a way, out on their own, but I do worry for the rest of the 4 small children.
@@Archlegan the grandparents are in a senior mission trip with the mormon church in europe so i don’t know. but the eldest daughter or one of ruby’s sisters are probably with the children. he made a statement through his lawyer saying that he was trying to get their custody so they’re not with him thankfully
Sixteenleo has a good video on them as well and their treatment of their son. She is awful. She sent her son to a camp in the wilderness because he said he didn't want to do social media. You should have Sixteenleo on your show, you all would vibe well.
the brother’s prank on his younger brother is so silly and literally such a basic aspect of siblinghood. crazy that he was punished for that at all, let alone having no bed for that long. wow.
Family vlogging is absolutely disgusting and I really hope the courts subpoena UA-cam and they have to be asked questions because they let these kids be exploited for money.
They kicked their oldest son out when he was 17. Covered expenses for him to get started but made home pay them back even though they made millions off of him. Atleast he got out before they turned up the volume on the physical abuse.
It isn’t only youtube bloggers. Reality tv children also experience the same issues examples such as John and Kate plus 8 and 21 and counting (duggers). It’s terrible.
At least with John and Kate plus 8, the kids were allowed to go to their room for privacy and the cameras weren't allowed to follow. Not that it wasn't messed up, it certainly was. But at least the kids had, you know, beds and a bedroom door they could close to avoid the cameras. And the crew was there for set hours to film a season and then was gone. The camera didn't live in the house with them full time. I haven't even watched any of the Duggers, it's too creepy. Although the show did result in an amusing interaction with my very old very catholic grandmother at a family gathering back in the show's early years. She had been sitting there quietly, thinking to herself at the table, and then suddenly pipes up "I don't understand those Polly Gammy families. What is that all about?" And we were all like "grandma WHAT" and she was like "you know, the Polly Gammy people. I saw them on TV." It took a good five minutes of struggling to understand her until she said "you know, the man has all those wives and kids". And we were all like OOOOOOHHHHH.
At six years old, I have a distinct memory of my mum coming into school during the day to drop of a new pencil case filled with new stationary. It was the first week back to school and I was the only one who didn’t have a new pencil case on the first day. I was fine with it, but my mum didn’t want me to be left out so she surprised me the next day. I cherished that thing for years simply because my mum going out of her way to bring it into school for me made it feel special. I cannot begin to imagine either of my parents telling me I have to pack my own lunch at that age, or leaving me hungry if I forgot to.
My own abusive mom always reminds me of these cases, and it’s true it takes soooo long for cps and police to step in and sometimes never happens. Thank god these children got help, my heart breaks for them.
In my country in Eastern Europe, they take away the physically abused child and leave the other 2 to 3 siblings with the parents…. It makes no sense… They only take the physically abused kid when the kid need to take to the hospital half dead, several times. Child Protection is shitty everywhere in the world.
To make the "punishment" worse the kid straight up says he THINKS this is why he was in trouble. You can't correct a childs bad behavior if they don't know what they are being punished for...
@@issa9467 plus the prank seems so mild to me. I don’t know maybe it’s because my brother was a straight up bully to us when we were growing up and the worst punishment he got was when he “accidentally” tripped my sister onto a pair of scissors and my step dad destroyed all his electronics. Like THAT was intense and everyone, including my step dad, agrees now it was too fair and that my brother probably actually should have gone to therapy. So to me this kid losing his room over telling his brother they were going to Disneyland is insane.
Yearssss ago I was blocked by this mother on Instagram. Out of absolute sincerity and concern of her actions with her eldest daughter, I messaged her. And of course, Shari was the first to completely separate herself. I watched them religiously because of how weird the mom was and it was like watching a cult in real time. Thinking back, I was just trying to put the pieces together wondering wtf was going on. She’s always been insane. Since day one.
They had a whole segment for years on Jimmy Kimmel of “ parents pretending they ate all the kids Halloween candy” They showed tons of videos of parents doing that to their kids. They thought it was hilarious. I was never a fan of that trend.
Exmormon here. Mormon doctrine and culture is a catalyst to this extreme way of discipline and ideaology that Ruby adopted. The self righteous attitude. A lot of these true crime event lately we’re Mormon families. Husbands killing their wives. Wild.
She’s exactly like my stepmother and dad. My stepmom would unlock the bathroom door and walk in while I was using it to put towels away and things like that and say “I can go wherever I want in my own house.” I wasn’t allowed to have a phone or use anything with internet until the day I turned 18, when they tried not to let me buy a phone and immediately put my belongings on their front porch and locked me out, telling me to find somewhere to take it. I’m so glad this psycho was arrested because people with parents like this rarely get any form of justice unfortunately.
I’ve been following this family for years, and I’ve been praying for her downfall. But I wish it hadn’t happened like this. Ruby’s sisters have been reaching out to the oldest kids who have left or are soon to leave the house, offering their homes to them. Them and the oldest daughter have been very vocal about the fact that they do not support ruby or her connections podcast and cut all communications with her a while ago. The oldest daughter went on a podcast explaining what it was like to be in college and to be slowly de-programmed from her parents brainwashing. The father to my knowledge stopped associating with ruby and there’s rumours he left her but he used to defend her wack ass parenting and I dont think he should be let off the hook. Connections was a pay to veiw podcast that charged people thousands of dollars a month to be explicitly taught how to essentially emotionally and physically abuse your kids. They were obviously super transphobic and homophobic and put ALOT of dangerous rhetoric into the world. Ruby was definitely the more unhinged of the two but she’s been unraveling since the oldest daughter left and got a mind of her own. (Who we all thought was gonna be a ruby carbon copy)
I hate that people thought the oldest daughter was going to be a ruby copy it’s obvious she loves her younger siblings a lot and was basically their mom lots of videos of her getting all the kids up for school and ready, i feel like since she’s the oldest she’s getting blamed for not “doing more” as if she wasn’t also being abused by her crazy mom, also not saying you accusing her just people in general have always been negative towards her calling her “bossy” or “ruby clone” and stuff when she was just a kid trying to take care of other kids
Those sisters are awful too for not helping those poor kids or reporting their sister for child abuse.. They let it go on for so long which is horrible.
Markie actually has a video on his channel from several months ago that I rewatched today where he showed some things from the sisters and Shari that appeared to indicate that they were trying to report things behind the scenes.
She needs therapy. She seems to have some sort of personality disorder that needs to be treated. She LOVES the power she holds over those kids and hurting them. People who respect their children do not deprive them of basic necessities and imprison them.
I REFUSE to believe that the father was a victim himself, students of his have spoken out on the type of person he is. He’s enabled her behavior & even have said himself tht he doesn’t wanna raise snowflakes so they put them through these things to make them better. He is just as much to blame and he needs to be held accountable
My mom growing up also never allowed ANY privacy. One of the things she did when I was very young was telling me that god is watching. When that didn't work (since i never believed in invisible beings like god, santa claus, tooth fairy) she said she set up cameras everywhere, in and outside my house (even in toilets and bathrooms). The fear of her knowing that ive lied was drilled into me so i never lied. I once tried telling her "i love you" for the first time and I felt like I lied to her and that immediately made me go into panic. I specifically avoided getting into relationships, having hobbies, buying stuff for myself, having fun basically, because she would always snoop. It triggers me so bad still remembering the stuff she did, i would scratch myself, rip my hair out, hit my own head, hit my fingers on any hard surface and other stuff I wont get into so i could feel that pain instead. I would tremble any time i had to talk about myself, because I was always interrogated by her. Any time I have to talk to friends about myself or to anyone i will tremble, even when its not face to face. She wanted to know all aspects of my life so i purposely didn't do ANYTHING at all in my life, so I wouldn't need to talk about it to her so now I dont even know what kind of person I am, what i like or dislike. Please allow your kids privacy. Let them have their own space where they can experiment with themselves, develop their own independent lives and interests.
Don’t forget she sent him away to wilderness therapy for not being humble on Instagram. He was a teen who immediately had 50k on Insta an had girls commenting heart eyes an such. He was very humble :( I watched them since 2013 ☹️
The reason it probably took CPS so long to step in, is because they don’t have as much power as most people think they do. If they show up to the house and the parents don’t want CPS to speak to the kids, then CPS can’t speak with them. Also parents like this usually threaten their kids if they talk to CPS. “You’ll never see your family again” or “I’ll punish you in such in such way.” You need really good evidence to actually have anything happen. Usually the kids have to tell them specifically what’s going on (which they probably won’t do because they’re being threatened), you need some kind of proof, or CPS has to actually see a bad living situation with their own eyes. And if the parents won’t let CPS into the house, then they can’t assess the living situation. It’s very sad, but unfortunately that’s the way the system is set up (this is in my experience, and what I’ve personally seen)
Yeah CPS usually came in the house but my mom made us DEEP CLEAN the house before they'd come over and we usually only could talk to them with her also in the room so no one ever said anything. She'd put on her radio voice and the happy go lucky mom act and it always worked every time. Also CPS never even checked out the whole house every time they came over, just sat in the living room for an hour and left. Looking back now I wish I had said what was going on to them and gotten us taken away from her. Could've saved me and all my siblings a little less trauma to deal with for the rest of our lives. But yeah CPS really is useless that's why people probably stopped calling cause nothing ever came of it.
Also kids are gaslit into thinking the abusive treatment they receive is normal and/or deserved. I was abused as a kid and I thought everyone was treated like that.
Went to my daughter’s high school orientation where we met the principal for the first time. One of the first things he said to the group of freshman parents was “when my son turns 18 he is out of the house, he won’t be staying on their couch like some bum”. It gave me a negative impression of him right away. Now that this came out that’s all I keep thinking about.
Their righteous indignation grows because they surround themselves with other abusers and they fuel each other. There is an alarming amount of people who abuse their kids while hiding behind religion.
If the kid didn't escape on time, you can be fucking sure that eventually, someone's leaving the house in body bags or be poorly buried in the wilderness.
I would NEVER deny my kids food and basic necessities. I can never get behind this rhetoric of kids are deserving of nothing. I owe MY kids everything till the day I die because I chose them. I made the decision to bring a child into the world. I just wanna give those poor kids every once of love they deserved and never got 😢 my heart breaks for them. I hope this will finally be the the beginning of the justice they deserve and a life of peace and healing.
The tone when she says that her teacher was "uncomfortable"... what a See You Next Tuesday. Plus, the kids are conditioned to lie to CPS in these situations. CPS has interviews with the kids WITH the parents there in a lot of cases.
exmormon here and currently living in utah- the "chambers" he's referring to are located in the mormon temples where rituals/ceremonies take place ranging from baptisms to the dead to marriage endowments. it's revered as super sacred and a lot of people are disturbed when they are able to finally enter the temple. as ethan said, the way the church tries to portray itself is extremely different from the reality behind closed doors. Homophobia, misogyny, racism, pedophilia, pretty much anything you can think of is what this church has been founded on. This church has 150 billion dollars from tithing and investments (?? yes a church) and gives 1% of tithing funds to charity. So disturbing and hard to interact with people still in the church because there's a massive cognitive dissonance.
This situation and watching all these older videos lowkey made me realize how insane one of my parents was when I was a kid. I always thought I was wrong/selfish for feeling that way 💀💀💀 ANYWAYS…… 😭😭😭
As someone who was raised Mormon, I will say that her ideology contradicts Mormon values in that children are viewed as innocent and deserving of a loving household. Their doctrine specifically mentions that those who abuse children will be held accountable on judgement day. But I do agree. There is a definite connection between crime and religion.
When my daughter was born I debated starting a family vlog. But I started doing some research and just the idea that they cannot consent stopped me in my tracks. My daughter is a hoot and so so so smart, but I just cant bring myself to exploit her for my own gain. It’s just so sad that these kids have 0 privacy and I’ve never heard of parents putting money aside or in a trust for their children who bring in the views. 😢😢😢
That 6 year old being responsible for their own lunch clip always rubbed me the wrong way. Like my parents took that attitude when I was 12+ of saying they weren’t going to drop me off food because I was responsible for my lunch and school belongings but not when I was still in elementary school. Also hoping that no one feeds your child?! My child is 6 now and I can’t imagine doing that to him.
I don't have kids nor do I intend to get any, but no way in fuck will I let my hypothetical child starve just because they made a silly inconsequential mistake that's, at worst, going to interrupt my day, which its course can be easily readjusted? Even my executive dysfunction don't fuck things up this greatly.
I mean I was raised Mormon, and I never heard “food privileges” or “bed privileges”; but my family was also just me my mom and my dad. My mom was a convert and never acted like some crazy Mormon mom. I’m not active in the church but I knew some who acted like Ruby…. But not to this extent. It’s absolutely ridiculous! Also I don’t live in Utah…. Utah is insane!
Yes I mean this is an extreme case but all these words and a lot of these behaviors stem from Mormon culture at large. None of this is surprising to me. There is so much hidden abuse behind smiles in Utah.
I passed through Utah on tour with a band this summer and it was absolutely surreal. we were in a rented passenger van, and on the way up to Wyoming, we started passing identical vans full of identical mormon families. all the members looked exactly the same. same sunglasses, plaid shirt, bearded dad. same blonde birdlike mom. same formally dressed children with coifed hair and bows. each time we passed one, the family would look over expecting to see another family, but would instead see 6 tired, dirty punks and quickly avert their eyes
39:35 well, you'd be especially surprised to find out not only do the 3 sisters have channels, but so do grandma and grandpa!!! (Channel called grandma and grandpa Griffiths)
I wonder if she ever thought how she would feel if her kids were treated, and spoke to her how she speaks to them? How insane that she got away with it for so long as well. I'm concerned about those children's father. Special places for people like them.
It so sad that the kids suffered for SO. LONG. before they got help. I’m anxious to see if other kids in similar situations will soon get the help they need now
They took the channel down due to that religious crap she got into with that lady. She basically renounced everything she had said and done after all the "millions" she was making with her channel. She basically said she had to stand in truth and humble herself. That's what it was all about. That's what she took out on her kids so abusively was not wanting them being too proud, spoiled, boastful. That kind of stuff. She made her son who was really talented in football quit because he loved it so much and everything that meant the world to him and why he was doing anything or working hard in school was for football so she took it away from him. She wanted them to be modest while she got mixed up with that lady and talks about how selfish she was and all the millions she made. She is a monster, always was and I've been saying it for years begging UA-camrs to talk about it so many people did but it seemed nobody cared to do anything. She made millions doing this and filming it for people's entertainment. DISGUSTING
can we finally let Mormonism die off? I was raised Mormon and it really messed with my brain, and I’m so sick of families like this one. Those poor babies deserved so much better.
My mom was abusive my entire life. She's a narcissist. She abused my dad, my brother with autism and myself until I was 16 and my brother was 11. It was so hard for my dad to get custody because my mom looked so good on paper and was so good at hiding and faking it. Now I am 26 and it's so hard because I want my mom around and she even moved across country to be with us, but it's so triggering. This content is so triggering. 😭 I hope there's justice for those kids.
The fact that you were confused which family it was is alarming. That there are MULTIPLE that are problematic and dangerous is scary.
My exact thought
It’s all of them tbh
@@markharrison6498and they all have connections with each other 👀 trust me. I used to watch family vloggers back in 2017, when I first became a mom. It took a year to realize that they’re all the same - shitty af.
they’re 100% all problematic for filming their kids and i hate that the sisters get a pass
heyyyy ace faaamily STOP!
There's no way children are malnourished and being duct taped without the husband knowing. Maybe he was a victim early on, but he still needs to be held accountable for whatever was happening to the children under that roof.
i could be wrong but i believe the husband hasn’t lived in their home for a few years now (they may be divorced but idk) and when he did live in the home he travelled for weeks at a time for work.
@@taylorfawn2012That doesn’t excuse anything. He was fully aware of what the mother was doing. He was in multiple videos defending their mistreatment. Them sending Chad to the wilderness camp for a silly little prank and not feeding the kids until they do their chores. He was seeing and hearing it all.
Victim or not, he clearly isn’t capable of protecting and caring for his children effectively. He should not get custody!
@@NUGUSNEEDLOVE2yessssss he knew as well! He was in the videos too totally justifying it.
If people watching her channel know he def does too
“You don’t get to sneak, you don’t get to hide, not in my house” as a sneaky kid it’s this type of shit exactly that creates sneaky, distant kids.
Exactly what i said when i heard that. Like the reason your child is sneaking around is because you have not made yourself a safe person for them to tell things to. It’s your failure as a parent that is the reason they’re sneaking around in the first place.
@SugarPeachPrincess It's also just apart of growing up in general, not to downplay the abuse ofc. But legit everyone I know had a phase where they grew distant from their parents.
Totally. I would sneak and hide things because I couldn’t trust my parents to be on my side.
My mom sent me to Mormon girls camp when I was a kid. A mom/leader did a talk about how she struggled with depression but fixed it by remembering to keep smiling and acting happy no matter what her feelings were because it was her responsibility to cheer up/lift up her husband and family, not to bring them down. So that's the glaze I think. The smile which becomes meaningless because it's plastered on over every emotion.
Great comment.
Wow!! F'd up!
Wow! Reminds me of when I used to watch the Shaytards, and Shay kept saying happiness was a choice and people just weren’t trying to be happy. I remember he got backlash and doubled down. Then years later the cheating and drinking came to light.
@@Samus7000the shay what??😭😭
Oh my god. That’s awful. I’m so sorry that that was (maybe?) your first impression with something like that.
As a person who was raised Mormon, the “Mormon glaze” is a great way to describe that look in the face and the inappropriate toxic positive attitude with everything.
😊p0
Utah is also the MLM capital of the world. Look at any MLM promotional photos and gatherings, you'll definitely see the "glaze" and the toxic positivity! Utah people definitely have a "look".
Don’t blanket all of utah with that explanation, it’s a beautiful state with plenty of normal people Mormon or not. Broad generalizations are the epitome of ignorance.
@@TheeAppleum they never did
@@TheeAppleno one is, it's just the mom capital. Lots more there than normal because laws make it easier for them to scam people there
“It’s my personal space”
“You don’t get boundaries”
“I own you, you deserve nothing”
Many people become parents just for the power.
All children deserve parents but not all parents deserve children
My dad was like this, he said we dont get personal space ever because hes our father :( he reminded me at age 30, so it didnt stop at 18, but it got better because i wasnt living under his authority.
@@toriamigo god I'm so sorry you have had to deal with that, I hope you know that you deserved/still deserve better
Mormons are indoctrinated to have kids. They are told that there are millions of spirit children waiting to get bodies, and it's their duty to have as many as possible. The problem is that not everyone should be a parent!
Sounds just like my narcissistic mother. According to her logic, she’s owed responsibility just bc she’s my mother, even if she doesn’t give me any.
The audacity to say 'This is MY house' when it's most certainly bought with money she earned because of her children...she is unbelievable. I hope she never gets to see those poor kids again.
hoping ruby gets no personal space and no privacy in jail. no respect. no dignity. no friends. no confidence. no support. no love. no grace. NOTHING. she deserves less than what she gave her children, which was NOTHING.
I agree.
And then have someone there to film it all 🎥
They don’t treat child or animal abusers there well. She.l be taken care of.
After all, that isn’t her space! That isn’t her house! 😈😂
prisoners hate’s whenever someone come in with child abuse so she’ll have a horrible time it’s what she deserves
Every child deserves a parent but NOT every parent deserves a child.
This woman is vile.
Any “parent” who says things like “food privileges” or “bed privileges” should immediately have their children taken away
(Or if they’re just Mormons)
Hard agree
Omg did she actually say food privileges
as an exmormon who lives in st. george by ivins (where they were arrested), i agree LMAO
@@RockinashyYpu live near Ruby’s sister Ellie then.
Did you ever hear any rumours about Carl and Jinger having swinger parties? He put out a video yesterday suggesting as much.
jeez y’all are so hateful towards mormons
I'm starting to think Katya is right when she said that children shouldn't be on camera at all.
She’s right😶
"They should only be referred to off-screen". I think about that every time a family channel gets exposed.
100%
YES that’s what i thought straight away
Right!!! I always think about her concerning child celebrities. The later extreme negative repercussions of early age “fame” are way more common than people think. I mean imagine the level of trauma regular day to day citizens have and how hard it is to overcome. And imagine it tenfold for these specific children. It makes me sick thinking about the amount of therapy they will all need if they even choose to seek out the help.
The scary part about this is that in the footage it comes across as she ENJOYS embarrassing and abusing her children...while shes explaining all these insane punishments her kids experienced shes smiling..this woman is sick and I hope shes enjoying prison where child abusers are not looked at nicely and these woman actually love and miss their kids. may she come in contact with these women soon. AMEN
"ENJOYS embarrassing and abusing her children"
This is what struck me too. There is a look all these people get - it's the same exact smug smile teetering on a laugh/eye-roll.
All the Griffith sisters do this. It’s normal to them because it’s how they were raised. Their mother emotionally abused them so they are now doing it to their kids.
@@murderofcrows7738really? How come you know about their background?
It certainly makes sense
@@Lucaz99 They all vlog and one of them thought it would be fun to upload their old home movies. The emotional abuse and narcissism is pretty obvious in the videos. Ruby can be seen to have a nervous twitch whenever she thinks her mom is going to get upset about something.
The Christmas videos were very enlightening. The kids would get only things they needed like underwear, sheets, crayons, while the mother got herself designer items under the guise of being able to hand them down to get children one day. Two of her kids were somehow sharing a winter coat until one got a new one for Christmas. It was so sad how excited that sister was to get her own coat 😢
@@murderofcrows7738 Jesus Christ. That’s actually horrifying. As someone who came from Brazil, I’ve seen families be so poor that the kids had to live like that. So poor that kids would have to go out into the streets looking/begging for food.
But I have never seen someone willingly put their kids in this position despite not needing to. The fact that she can even afford a designer handbag shows they were far from being poor.
Imagine being born into privilege but not having access to that privilege since you were born because your mother is a crazy narcissist and your father seems absent. Ruby Franke is just history repeating itself. But this time she met someone who made her even more evil than her mother. JODI.
Does anyone else notice a trend with these psychotic child abusers often being extremely religious? js
"Religious" you mean... please don't tar us all with the same brush.... thanks....
It isn't a trend it is a direct correlation. For christians the most psycho are evangelicals and mormons
Unfortunately I've noticed there's been a lot of strict Mormons family in particular. I watch a lot of true crime as well.
@@SarahTheNearlyInSP there's actually a corellation between religious families being more likely to abuse their children. Don't act special, organized religion is a cancer that should have died when science started proving them all wrong.
Mormonism is a cult. Same with JWs. They are way more culty than most religions because of the relationship dynamics.
I HATE when parents "prank" their children by making them sad, upset or hurt any other way. Thats so cruel... and especially putting it on the internet for people to see...
And he's a literal baby 😢 his brain isn't even developed enough yet to understand what a prank is.
Its just abuse
I hate this shit too! I don’t even like when some of my family members try to upset my now 1 yo by like pinching her cheeks or tugging her hair to get a reaction. Like STOP. She’s not bothering anyone, she’s not a puppy, you don’t need a reaction from a baby. The fact I’ve had to tell so many of them to stop, like why do I have to do that. It’s just freaking weird.
Agreed. I’m seeing this new prank of cracking an egg on your child’s head. I hate it. The kids are physically upset. It’s so sad
@@burchkili7240 but you don’t understand. To them kids are property. And its not a crime to throw an egg at your own property
I hope the dad is being monitored too and those kids are being checked in on by authorities. He's in on all of this and was in a video not long ago with the mom defending their abusive parenting tactics.
No shot he didn't know. I think he was complicit, as well as everyone else in that family that said nothing.
Well said! Ruby wasn’t a single mom. The father was complicit with everything that happened to those kids growing up.
@@DoritoBot9000FYI, the husband has been the ex-husband for 3 years now, they haven’t lived together for years. Yes, I believe he is complicit with the abuse but the aggravated child abuse? Idk. We don’t know when the duct taping and extreme starvation begun or if the dad was in the picture or not. I believe Ruby got custody of the kids though because it was said he was living together with the oldest brother, Chad some years ago.
@patysolom If I remember correctly then the mom had been drifting away from the husband and towards even more extremely religious rhetoric for a few years now. I wouldn’t be surprised if the abuse got dramatically worse recently while the dad was out of the picture. Not that he wasn’t complicit in something. Clearly the videos while they were still together were awful too.
@@Lucaz99also, if i’m remembering correctly, wasn’t he
always traveling for work when he
lived in the family home?
It’s so disgusting that this went on as long as it did with so many people reporting her to CPS. Those poor kids had to deal with so much abuse before anyone helped them.
And then abusive parents complain about CPS taking away their rights.
She's a rich Mormon mother in Utah, they must be covering up for her
I agree. Unfortunately this is very common in cases of child abuse.
There's certain types of people that watch family vlog channels that have nothing better than to call CPS with all kinds of accusations. I'd say they'd be a big part of the reason for the truth taking so long to come to light.
@@JLYT2024family vlog channels are usually gross posting their kids for views and money, so it makes sense to call cps on them tbh
To use food as a bargaining tool for compliance is the sickest thing a parent can do 😡
The idea of profiting purely off your kids and then turning around and claiming that your home is "your" space, not allowing them access to their bedrooms and lunches is so wild to me.. those kids are paying for the house and the food yet they're being refused it on the token of "mom's in charge" lol
The part that the kids are playing for the house is SO REAL. Her channel is ONLY popular because of her children. she would not be NEARLY as popular if the channel did not involve her kids.
i hadn’t even thought of that and you’re so right.. the older boy basically paying for his own wilderness camp stay is crazy to me
As long as CPS or the cops see a clean, nice house & someone well-spoken - they are reluctant, it gets harder & harder to report. THE SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN!!
The system is indeed broken. I agree with you
I was abused by my parents, even threatened with a knife by my dad. The whole family, police and my friends wouldn't believe me. I escaped that house as a 19 year old and still dealt with my dad for a few years after that because I was gas light so much. I'm so mentally ill now but I'm getting therapy. Everyone suffering abuse or do get abused, stay strong. It does get better. It stays with you but with support you can still have a good life.
Yikes
@@Sm1rkz I could fill several books with all the shit my family did.
Sending you all the love. Getting out of the house is a game changer. I still have a relationship with my abusive parents because things improved so much after I moved MULTIPLE states away. And it’s not easy, like you said this shit haunts you and it will continuously try to bring you down.
@@savstrange Thank you so much I really appreciate it and same to you ❤️.
Sending you a TON of love 💓
As a former CPS worker, I will say it takes a significant amount to take children from the home. It’s unfortunate but that’s just how state law works in many places. Trust me when I say there was plenty of times when I wanted to take kids from the home and was told no by my supervisors. CPS and the police can only operate off of state law and policy. Blame the law makers
I work with families, not CPS, but sometimes we have to make that call and coordinate with CPS. I agree that it usually takes a lot even when the worker and our team agrees that the kids should not be in a certain home. I truly feel that the perception of kids being removed left and right is skewed and sometimes CPS can be a great resource for getting families certain help to be able to keep their kids and be healthy. Not saying there are no serious issues in children and family services overall and in specific, but just my observation around what people usually think
My teenager literally has two rules, don’t lie to me and don’t drink and drive. That’s it. She has her own privacy, I don’t go through her phone, and she is the best kid, she has great friends, makes good grades plays two sports, and talks to me about EVERYTHING. It’s a no judgement zone. She’s going to make mistakes, she’s going to be lazy sometimes but isn’t everyone? I don’t put high expectations to her because we’re all human and and she sets her own standards for her life and she is becoming a great human being who i am so proud of. ❤️
Love this! Some Parents fail to understand that if you model respect with your child they will be more likely to respect you in return. Also that our kids don’t owe us anything, they didn’t ask to be here. It’s our jobs as parents to guide them and provide for them, not the other way around.
I’m sorry but any parent that says that their kids talks to them about everything is wrong, every teenager has things they don’t tell their parents.
@@g-6-well you get what OP meant. i can tell i share with my mom everything but it doesn’t mean literally every single detail of life
it means sharing all the important stuff
(i don’t think you’d share literal 100% with anyone. that’s just not necessary)
We gre up with 4 families as our close family friends.
The parents who were the strictest (and who judged the other parents the most) has the kids that rebelled the most. And the ones who had the most strained relationships with their parents.
The rest of us still made mistakes and did dumb shit. But we didn’t go WILD when we got a modicum of freedom.
Of course it’s anecdotal, but it’s interesting.
She took chads room away and he slept on a bean bag for 7 months because of a mean prank on his brother. Now she’s sleeping in a jail bunk for hopefully over 7 years. That’s some karma for her evil az
The prank wasn’t even that bad. It was actually really really funny 😂. You’re right in calling her evil
No, I hope she gets the maximum sentence which I believe is 15-20...
@@narleymarley666it's infuriating at worst, but the prank is fucking nothing compared to what the mother did.
@@jedimasterspidermad5173 that’s 15 possible per charge. I hope it’s 15 for all 6
My mother (mormon) made me sleep on the kitchen floor for a month. No blanket no nothing because i had the audacity to say i was uncomfortable
I’m not surprised she was arrested. The signs WERE ALWAYS THERE! Literally she said she took his door and made him sleep on a BEAN BAG CHAIR for 6+ months. How is that not child abuse right there?? Or how she wouldn’t MAKE A LUNCH for her 6 year old child. She told a teacher that her 6 year old is responsible for making her lunch in the morning. What is she supposed to make?? She can’t even work a microwave probably! And if she didn’t bring it, the mom wasn’t going to bring it. And said she hopes NO ONE GIVES HER FOOD TO MAKE HER LEARN A LESSON. The teacher asked her to bring one and she said no. That’s troubling and should of been counted as abuse.
me neither, but im surprised it took this long
It really troubled me the way she justified it by saying "I asked her if she made a lunch and she said yes". Of course she said yes, she's probably terrified of the possible consequences if she tells you she forgot or doesn't how to do it.
I wonder if any teachers called cps, I also wonder how her teacher feels now after hearing everything that’s happened. It’s so awful
@@lindseyandsons4059I have called CPS multiple times on my neighbor. They don't do S.
Also, teachers are mandatory reporters so she could have called CPS or the cops on the mom
Shocking that parent's like this never really consider what the relationship with their children will be after they're all grown up. I'd hate to have raised kids only for them to hate me and never want anything to do with me after they left the home, let alone reporting me to the police.
I’m pretty sure abusers like that don’t really think about the repercussions of their actions while they’re doing it. Some people hate their children and wouldn’t care, but others genuinely think they’re in the right or doing the right thing by being abusive. Those are the ones who are usually shocked when their children want nothing to do with them later on in life.
I know this sounds crazy but I am grateful my parents were SO awful that it is perfectly reasonable for me to never speak to them again. I have so many friends with almost-terrible parents who are trapped in obligations I will never have. Yes, this is sad but it could be worse - I could find myself in their company, supporting them, bailing them out or listening to their rage filled entitlement.
Ruby’s own parents were abusive to her. She had to be “grown” at age 5 so she could take care of her younger siblings because her mom was always focused on the latest baby. As she got pregnant again she’d push the poor little one away and make them the responsibility of the other kids. Ruby never had her own space, her own room, or her own life. She lived to please her Narcissist mother and was taught that being a mother meant you were then privileged and could do whatever you want. It doesn’t excuse what she turned into in any way, but it does explain it. Her youngest sister Ellie is exactly like Ruby used to be too, only no one wants to see it just as they didn’t when Ruby’s channel was at its peak. Too many mormons are the fans watching. They want to believe the lies.
@@jenmdawghow can someone be trapped into obligations? Can't they just say no?
@@lavi1218I am so jealous of you that you don't understand what being "trapped into obligations" means.
I live this reality. For many people, it relates to their parents.
The amount of fear, sheer terror, that one feels at the thought of saying No to an abusive parent about anything..... it's awful. You don't want to be seen as a bad person. ...
I went off on a Mormon dad at Horseshoe Bend. He was dragging his (maybe 10 year old) daughter across the parking lot by her hair. When confronted about it, he said “I’m making sure she’s safe”… unbelievable gaslighting. I chewed him out! I think about that girl all the time.
Huge red flag is forcing your 6 yr old to pack their own lunch with no help. They have no capacity to understand true responsibility. As someone who’s mom never taught them to cook or take responsibility for themselves I had to learn when I was old enough to and it didn’t make my life easier at all. Parents need to teach kids how to do things…how else do they learn?
And you know she scolds them if they only pack things like sweets. As a kid, why would you think to pack vegetables? They can't win.
At 6 I was packing my own lunch as parents both did shift work and we rarely saw them. My brother and I ate yogurt bars and biscuits for 1 month until my teacher contacted home. We were yelled at for being stupid.... I was 6, of course I'm going to grab biscuits (cookie) 😂
This is the most shocking yet least shocking thing ever. What a horrible horrible thing
also, I'm sorry but I 100% would believe just from the shown clips that this woman is capable of what she's done. Those are all signs of abuse but it's easy for these people to hide it. They are good at it. They are manipulators.
as someone who watched her channel for years, I totally agree with you
@@montse4690did notice anything wrong in the beginning or just the past few years
@@montse4690Any idea why people refuse to believe Ellie is the same way despite literally following in Ruby’s messed up footsteps? Jackson was made to parent Calvin at 3 or 4 just as Shari had to look after Chad! What is this mist that Ellie has that makes people ignore her emotional abuse and covert narcissism while able to see Ruby’s for the same things?
@@Mommy_Moss from the start lol Ruby and Kevin were always trying to make a lesson out of EVERYTHING (back in the day I thought it was because they wanted content but now I can tell It wasn't). there were obvious signs of violence now that I look back at what I used to watch, from not bringing her young daughter (of five I think) lunch cause she forgot to pack it and it was her "responsability". to even putting the pressure on Sheri to be her fucking eyes when she wasn't around and seeing the dynamic of Sheri always looking for her approval on video, so sad. you could tell the kids were so much under pressure because they truly wanted to sell us a "perfect white conservative" family look.
The husband is obviously an evil lunatic, too! Children are hungry, emaciated, bound, etc. Of course he is aware of the horrific abuse of his children. Two monsters!
Food is not a privilege. It is a human right.
No it’s a necessity of life 😂
hila’s “GOD DID” fucking sent me. a literal queen of comedic timing. thank you girl
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I remember back in the day, there was a video of the mom trying to explain how she took away the bed of one of the older boys. Later he was sent to a facility to "teach him stuff". It was very disturbing even back then.
That's the same mom.
Wasn't it like a wilderness camp
@@clamshelljuice wouldnt be surprised. wilderness camps are so abusive.
@@clamshelljuiceyes it was a wilderness camp that was known for not having adequately trained counselors and multiple kids came out abused, injured etc. and then he had to sleep on a beanbag for 7 months after being sent to wilderness camp
@@2turg_2furious yeah ive heard terrible things about wilderness camps like camps also punishing children by removing their source to food and making it impossible for the child to just leave by keeping them stuck in the middle of nowhere.
All family channels should be demonetized, you have no idea if the kids are consenting to filming and if they are getting any of the money.
I don't think that kids COULD consent to something like this, unless they're maybe 14-16
The people running UA-cam do not care. They want money. It will take laws to protect these family vlog kids.
What's kind of upsetting is that she's gonna be well-fed in prison with a bed and has a toilet to shit in. Unlike how she treats her kids at home
She shouldn’t be praising law enforcement who ignored their pleas for help. They only did something bc a kid escaped with wounds
Unfortunately this is really common. CPS is FLOODED with cases, and the workers are often given an impossible workload and stacked with an insurmountable amount of cases to triage, sort, and decide on a path of action/inaction. It’s so frustrating because a lot of cases slip through the cracks because there isn’t enough evidence, or there are cases that are more severe. It’s super unfortunate, and it shouldn’t be that way, but it is.
Another thing with Mormon communities is everyone knows each other and many times a blind eye is turned because maybe she knows a cop or a cop is in her ward that kind of thing. Growing up in a Mormon town a lot of bad things just don’t get talked about to keep the positive image that is so important to the religion
ACAB
The channel should’ve been called:
2 passengers, 8 hostages!!
Because, this sh*t is twisted!
You mean 6 hostages, but yeah
Apparently the father is trying to get the kids but he is almost just as bad. He was just as abusive as Ruby back before she was separated from him. From what I know, Ruby got much more abusive after Connexions and he stood with them for a while and was even a mod for their page. It’s worrying really. I hope the kids go to another family member instead. Shari and Chad seem to safe and in a way, out on their own, but I do worry for the rest of the 4 small children.
i think the fact that Kevin doesn’t immediately have kinship placement means law enforcement already has stuff against him
@@laurenvcouto that makes sense. i figured the oldest sister would be fighting for custody, maybe the grandparents.
@@Archlegan the grandparents are in a senior mission trip with the mormon church in europe so i don’t know. but the eldest daughter or one of ruby’s sisters are probably with the children. he made a statement through his lawyer saying that he was trying to get their custody so they’re not with him thankfully
Sixteenleo has a good video on them as well and their treatment of their son. She is awful. She sent her son to a camp in the wilderness because he said he didn't want to do social media. You should have Sixteenleo on your show, you all would vibe well.
White woman are terrifying sometimes
nah sixteenleo kinda annoying
Yup i remember sawing that video when it came out. They are crazy. I’m glad some justice is brought upon
the brother’s prank on his younger brother is so silly and literally such a basic aspect of siblinghood. crazy that he was punished for that at all, let alone having no bed for that long. wow.
What was the prank?
Bet the mom was just mad she didn't record it 😒
Family vlogging is absolutely disgusting and I really hope the courts subpoena UA-cam and they have to be asked questions because they let these kids be exploited for money.
They kicked their oldest son out when he was 17. Covered expenses for him to get started but made home pay them back even though they made millions off of him. Atleast he got out before they turned up the volume on the physical abuse.
She was bordering on being the next Lori Vallow and then this happened. Thankfully those kids are ok now.
Right, I saw somewhere else that she used the same language about the children. "Distortion" is what stuck out to me.
@@marlo8528distortion, numb, truth… all these words with meanings these 2 women made up
Good reference
@marlo8528 yes exactly. All the weird language they used reminded me so much of the Vallow Daybell cult.
@@leahvogelsimpsonit is exactly the same
It isn’t only youtube bloggers. Reality tv children also experience the same issues examples such as John and Kate plus 8 and 21 and counting (duggers). It’s terrible.
Swoop has good videos about them.
I think the Duggers were truly the most disturbing out of them all.
have y’all watched shiny happy people?
At least with John and Kate plus 8, the kids were allowed to go to their room for privacy and the cameras weren't allowed to follow. Not that it wasn't messed up, it certainly was. But at least the kids had, you know, beds and a bedroom door they could close to avoid the cameras. And the crew was there for set hours to film a season and then was gone. The camera didn't live in the house with them full time.
I haven't even watched any of the Duggers, it's too creepy. Although the show did result in an amusing interaction with my very old very catholic grandmother at a family gathering back in the show's early years. She had been sitting there quietly, thinking to herself at the table, and then suddenly pipes up "I don't understand those Polly Gammy families. What is that all about?" And we were all like "grandma WHAT" and she was like "you know, the Polly Gammy people. I saw them on TV." It took a good five minutes of struggling to understand her until she said "you know, the man has all those wives and kids". And we were all like OOOOOOHHHHH.
@@stoneheart_raven yes as a Christian I was disgusted by that family.
At six years old, I have a distinct memory of my mum coming into school during the day to drop of a new pencil case filled with new stationary. It was the first week back to school and I was the only one who didn’t have a new pencil case on the first day. I was fine with it, but my mum didn’t want me to be left out so she surprised me the next day. I cherished that thing for years simply because my mum going out of her way to bring it into school for me made it feel special. I cannot begin to imagine either of my parents telling me I have to pack my own lunch at that age, or leaving me hungry if I forgot to.
My own abusive mom always reminds me of these cases, and it’s true it takes soooo long for cps and police to step in and sometimes never happens. Thank god these children got help, my heart breaks for them.
In my country in Eastern Europe, they take away the physically abused child and leave the other 2 to 3 siblings with the parents…. It makes no sense… They only take the physically abused kid when the kid need to take to the hospital half dead, several times. Child Protection is shitty everywhere in the world.
i’m so sorry 😢
To make the "punishment" worse the kid straight up says he THINKS this is why he was in trouble. You can't correct a childs bad behavior if they don't know what they are being punished for...
That was so egregious to me. Meanwhile the mom starts laughing as the kid describes the prank. GROSS
@@issa9467 plus the prank seems so mild to me. I don’t know maybe it’s because my brother was a straight up bully to us when we were growing up and the worst punishment he got was when he “accidentally” tripped my sister onto a pair of scissors and my step dad destroyed all his electronics. Like THAT was intense and everyone, including my step dad, agrees now it was too fair and that my brother probably actually should have gone to therapy. So to me this kid losing his room over telling his brother they were going to Disneyland is insane.
Yearssss ago I was blocked by this mother on Instagram. Out of absolute sincerity and concern of her actions with her eldest daughter, I messaged her. And of course, Shari was the first to completely separate herself. I watched them religiously because of how weird the mom was and it was like watching a cult in real time. Thinking back, I was just trying to put the pieces together wondering wtf was going on. She’s always been insane. Since day one.
Watching the child when he thought all his candy had been eaten was so upsetting. Who tf would intentionally make their child feel that way???
They had a whole segment for years on Jimmy Kimmel of “ parents pretending they ate all the kids Halloween candy” They showed tons of videos of parents doing that to their kids. They thought it was hilarious. I was never a fan of that trend.
Exmormon here. Mormon doctrine and culture is a catalyst to this extreme way of discipline and ideaology that Ruby adopted. The self righteous attitude. A lot of these true crime event lately we’re Mormon families. Husbands killing their wives. Wild.
I’m so glad the children are out of the care of their parents. Hopefully they can heal from all the trauma they endured
I wish someone would have asked my mom "if you hate kids, why have them?"
She’s exactly like my stepmother and dad. My stepmom would unlock the bathroom door and walk in while I was using it to put towels away and things like that and say “I can go wherever I want in my own house.” I wasn’t allowed to have a phone or use anything with internet until the day I turned 18, when they tried not to let me buy a phone and immediately put my belongings on their front porch and locked me out, telling me to find somewhere to take it. I’m so glad this psycho was arrested because people with parents like this rarely get any form of justice unfortunately.
i’m so sorry ❤️🩹 i hope you’re doing better
I’ve been following this family for years, and I’ve been praying for her downfall. But I wish it hadn’t happened like this.
Ruby’s sisters have been reaching out to the oldest kids who have left or are soon to leave the house, offering their homes to them. Them and the oldest daughter have been very vocal about the fact that they do not support ruby or her connections podcast and cut all communications with her a while ago.
The oldest daughter went on a podcast explaining what it was like to be in college and to be slowly de-programmed from her parents brainwashing.
The father to my knowledge stopped associating with ruby and there’s rumours he left her but he used to defend her wack ass parenting and I dont think he should be let off the hook.
Connections was a pay to veiw podcast that charged people thousands of dollars a month to be explicitly taught how to essentially emotionally and physically abuse your kids. They were obviously super transphobic and homophobic and put ALOT of dangerous rhetoric into the world. Ruby was definitely the more unhinged of the two but she’s been unraveling since the oldest daughter left and got a mind of her own. (Who we all thought was gonna be a ruby carbon copy)
Wow! Thanks for the insider info, super good context.
Damn, it's a shame she was portrayed as someone followers thought to be like her mom & followers believed it.
I hate that people thought the oldest daughter was going to be a ruby copy it’s obvious she loves her younger siblings a lot and was basically their mom lots of videos of her getting all the kids up for school and ready, i feel like since she’s the oldest she’s getting blamed for not “doing more” as if she wasn’t also being abused by her crazy mom, also not saying you accusing her just people in general have always been negative towards her calling her “bossy” or “ruby clone” and stuff when she was just a kid trying to take care of other kids
Those sisters are awful too for not helping those poor kids or reporting their sister for child abuse.. They let it go on for so long which is horrible.
Markie actually has a video on his channel from several months ago that I rewatched today where he showed some things from the sisters and Shari that appeared to indicate that they were trying to report things behind the scenes.
“Yeah there’s some good cops too…” 💀
It's amazing how confident she was in her parenting considering the fact she had 0 mothering instinct apparently.
She needs therapy. She seems to have some sort of personality disorder that needs to be treated. She LOVES the power she holds over those kids and hurting them. People who respect their children do not deprive them of basic necessities and imprison them.
I REFUSE to believe that the father was a victim himself, students of his have spoken out on the type of person he is. He’s enabled her behavior & even have said himself tht he doesn’t wanna raise snowflakes so they put them through these things to make them better. He is just as much to blame and he needs to be held accountable
I remember parents in her comments section supporting her behavior. Some people really should just snip their tubes 😒
Tie their tubes* and this is very misogynistic even though that’s not what you meant
i think its awful to say kevin franke is a "victim" of ruby when hes on camera abusing his children as well
“Why have so many kids if you hate them” so true!
My mom growing up also never allowed ANY privacy. One of the things she did when I was very young was telling me that god is watching. When that didn't work (since i never believed in invisible beings like god, santa claus, tooth fairy) she said she set up cameras everywhere, in and outside my house (even in toilets and bathrooms). The fear of her knowing that ive lied was drilled into me so i never lied. I once tried telling her "i love you" for the first time and I felt like I lied to her and that immediately made me go into panic.
I specifically avoided getting into relationships, having hobbies, buying stuff for myself, having fun basically, because she would always snoop. It triggers me so bad still remembering the stuff she did, i would scratch myself, rip my hair out, hit my own head, hit my fingers on any hard surface and other stuff I wont get into so i could feel that pain instead. I would tremble any time i had to talk about myself, because I was always interrogated by her. Any time I have to talk to friends about myself or to anyone i will tremble, even when its not face to face. She wanted to know all aspects of my life so i purposely didn't do ANYTHING at all in my life, so I wouldn't need to talk about it to her so now I dont even know what kind of person I am, what i like or dislike.
Please allow your kids privacy. Let them have their own space where they can experiment with themselves, develop their own independent lives and interests.
That’s a mental illness. See a psych and get therapy
did u escape?
@@KaliDurga108 not yet 😀
@@user-cq7st6od6o oof
“They’ve got that mormon glaze” omfg this had me weak😭🤣
If family channels had the same regulation of child work as Hollywood, a lot of family vloggers would go bankrupt.
I love when Ethan just lets his imagination run wild and everyone is trying to correct him he just goes with his hearts song lol
Ethan’s performance as “shady family blogger in Utah” deserves an Oscar lmao
Don’t forget she sent him away to wilderness therapy for not being humble on Instagram. He was a teen who immediately had 50k on Insta an had girls commenting heart eyes an such. He was very humble :( I watched them since 2013 ☹️
I think we all knew something was up with them, but we definitely weren’t expecting this
I think if you want more accurate information about what's happening MARKIE would be a good person to talk to. He's been covering it for years
The reason it probably took CPS so long to step in, is because they don’t have as much power as most people think they do. If they show up to the house and the parents don’t want CPS to speak to the kids, then CPS can’t speak with them. Also parents like this usually threaten their kids if they talk to CPS. “You’ll never see your family again” or “I’ll punish you in such in such way.” You need really good evidence to actually have anything happen. Usually the kids have to tell them specifically what’s going on (which they probably won’t do because they’re being threatened), you need some kind of proof, or CPS has to actually see a bad living situation with their own eyes. And if the parents won’t let CPS into the house, then they can’t assess the living situation. It’s very sad, but unfortunately that’s the way the system is set up (this is in my experience, and what I’ve personally seen)
Yeah CPS usually came in the house but my mom made us DEEP CLEAN the house before they'd come over and we usually only could talk to them with her also in the room so no one ever said anything. She'd put on her radio voice and the happy go lucky mom act and it always worked every time. Also CPS never even checked out the whole house every time they came over, just sat in the living room for an hour and left. Looking back now I wish I had said what was going on to them and gotten us taken away from her. Could've saved me and all my siblings a little less trauma to deal with for the rest of our lives. But yeah CPS really is useless that's why people probably stopped calling cause nothing ever came of it.
Also kids are gaslit into thinking the abusive treatment they receive is normal and/or deserved. I was abused as a kid and I thought everyone was treated like that.
@@spOOkytimesme too^^
Went to my daughter’s high school orientation where we met the principal for the first time. One of the first things he said to the group of freshman parents was “when my son turns 18 he is out of the house, he won’t be staying on their couch like some bum”. It gave me a negative impression of him right away. Now that this came out that’s all I keep thinking about.
What that’s insane, are they just going to get rid of his room lmao
I'm just glad these kids saved themselves this some Lori Vallow vibes where she was trying to "fix" her "sinful" kids.
Their righteous indignation grows because they surround themselves with other abusers and they fuel each other. There is an alarming amount of people who abuse their kids while hiding behind religion.
If the kid didn't escape on time, you can be fucking sure that eventually, someone's leaving the house in body bags or be poorly buried in the wilderness.
I would NEVER deny my kids food and basic necessities. I can never get behind this rhetoric of kids are deserving of nothing. I owe MY kids everything till the day I die because I chose them. I made the decision to bring a child into the world. I just wanna give those poor kids every once of love they deserved and never got 😢 my heart breaks for them. I hope this will finally be the the beginning of the justice they deserve and a life of peace and healing.
finally she was arrested she barely even tried to hide the abuse
i’m sure it’s because she believes she’s done nothing wrong, so what’s there to hide? she’s justified her actions.
This is so sad everyone in this situation failed the children the sisters and cps
The tone when she says that her teacher was "uncomfortable"... what a See You Next Tuesday.
Plus, the kids are conditioned to lie to CPS in these situations. CPS has interviews with the kids WITH the parents there in a lot of cases.
exmormon here and currently living in utah- the "chambers" he's referring to are located in the mormon temples where rituals/ceremonies take place ranging from baptisms to the dead to marriage endowments. it's revered as super sacred and a lot of people are disturbed when they are able to finally enter the temple. as ethan said, the way the church tries to portray itself is extremely different from the reality behind closed doors. Homophobia, misogyny, racism, pedophilia, pretty much anything you can think of is what this church has been founded on. This church has 150 billion dollars from tithing and investments (?? yes a church) and gives 1% of tithing funds to charity. So disturbing and hard to interact with people still in the church because there's a massive cognitive dissonance.
This situation and watching all these older videos lowkey made me realize how insane one of my parents was when I was a kid. I always thought I was wrong/selfish for feeling that way 💀💀💀 ANYWAYS…… 😭😭😭
As someone who was raised Mormon, I will say that her ideology contradicts Mormon values in that children are viewed as innocent and deserving of a loving household. Their doctrine specifically mentions that those who abuse children will be held accountable on judgement day. But I do agree. There is a definite connection between crime and religion.
Yet here we are...
Not CONNIE-ZIONS! I’m dying, it’s pronounced “Connections.” 💀
When my daughter was born I debated starting a family vlog. But I started doing some research and just the idea that they cannot consent stopped me in my tracks. My daughter is a hoot and so so so smart, but I just cant bring myself to exploit her for my own gain. It’s just so sad that these kids have 0 privacy and I’ve never heard of parents putting money aside or in a trust for their children who bring in the views. 😢😢😢
If the kid doesn't even know why they're being disciplined then the punishment doesn't work
That 6 year old being responsible for their own lunch clip always rubbed me the wrong way. Like my parents took that attitude when I was 12+ of saying they weren’t going to drop me off food because I was responsible for my lunch and school belongings but not when I was still in elementary school. Also hoping that no one feeds your child?! My child is 6 now and I can’t imagine doing that to him.
I don't have kids nor do I intend to get any, but no way in fuck will I let my hypothetical child starve just because they made a silly inconsequential mistake that's, at worst, going to interrupt my day, which its course can be easily readjusted?
Even my executive dysfunction don't fuck things up this greatly.
Scary what she put online. Imagine what she didn't post.
I mean I was raised Mormon, and I never heard “food privileges” or “bed privileges”; but my family was also just me my mom and my dad. My mom was a convert and never acted like some crazy Mormon mom. I’m not active in the church but I knew some who acted like Ruby…. But not to this extent. It’s absolutely ridiculous! Also I don’t live in Utah…. Utah is insane!
Yes I mean this is an extreme case but all these words and a lot of these behaviors stem from Mormon culture at large. None of this is surprising to me. There is so much hidden abuse behind smiles in Utah.
never EVER trust a family vlogging channel is what ive learned in the years ive been on youtube, especially religious centered ones.
I passed through Utah on tour with a band this summer and it was absolutely surreal. we were in a rented passenger van, and on the way up to Wyoming, we started passing identical vans full of identical mormon families. all the members looked exactly the same. same sunglasses, plaid shirt, bearded dad. same blonde birdlike mom. same formally dressed children with coifed hair and bows. each time we passed one, the family would look over expecting to see another family, but would instead see 6 tired, dirty punks and quickly avert their eyes
39:35 well, you'd be especially surprised to find out not only do the 3 sisters have channels, but so do grandma and grandpa!!! (Channel called grandma and grandpa Griffiths)
8 passengers in a car crash is crazy
I wonder if she ever thought how she would feel if her kids were treated, and spoke to her how she speaks to them?
How insane that she got away with it for so long as well.
I'm concerned about those children's father.
Special places for people like them.
i love how all the sisters have that diabolical deep-set eyes to them.
This story just makes me so sad. It was in front of our eyes for years and cps did nothing to help despite calls being made
It so sad that the kids suffered for SO. LONG. before they got help. I’m anxious to see if other kids in similar situations will soon get the help they need now
this woman is probably recreating trauma she suffered as a child. thus continues the cycles of violence in her family tree. this is terrible.
I was thinking to myself what this woman's childhood must have been like to pursue this parenting style 🤔
i saw a comment above that all the sisters take joy in punishing their children because of how their parents raised them, so i guess it checks out
Hurt people hurt people
They took the channel down due to that religious crap she got into with that lady. She basically renounced everything she had said and done after all the "millions" she was making with her channel. She basically said she had to stand in truth and humble herself. That's what it was all about. That's what she took out on her kids so abusively was not wanting them being too proud, spoiled, boastful. That kind of stuff. She made her son who was really talented in football quit because he loved it so much and everything that meant the world to him and why he was doing anything or working hard in school was for football so she took it away from him. She wanted them to be modest while she got mixed up with that lady and talks about how selfish she was and all the millions she made. She is a monster, always was and I've been saying it for years begging UA-camrs to talk about it so many people did but it seemed nobody cared to do anything. She made millions doing this and filming it for people's entertainment. DISGUSTING
The poor son's posture was probably misaligned from making him sleep on a bean bag for months.
The audacity of proclaiming "kids are so dramatic" as you traumatize them for clout...
can we finally let Mormonism die off? I was raised Mormon and it really messed with my brain, and I’m so sick of families like this one. Those poor babies deserved so much better.
That glazed look is soooo accurate
My mom was abusive my entire life. She's a narcissist. She abused my dad, my brother with autism and myself until I was 16 and my brother was 11. It was so hard for my dad to get custody because my mom looked so good on paper and was so good at hiding and faking it. Now I am 26 and it's so hard because I want my mom around and she even moved across country to be with us, but it's so triggering. This content is so triggering. 😭 I hope there's justice for those kids.
the duct tape gave me flash backs to the Lori Vallow case that went to trial a couple of months ago she was also Mormon
I wonder what Macaulay C thinks about these kids and how it's a bit different but essentially the same abuse he went through