AP shyv has always been pretty fking good, the only issue is basically only 1 ability does any damage and if you get cc'd you're dead. Its usually a skill issue so good thing good guy Agurin picked it up because hes actually good.
kinda this ya, but her q now does some good dmg even on ap, thats why alot of shyv players are bringing lich bane into her build, r e q and someone is guaranteed dead unless there a mega tank, plus u become a objective god with lichbane and nashors, ur eq smite combo is well over 2200 dmg once u have 3 or 4 items, only reason it doesnt see more play is bc most ppl just r in and die, instead of saving the r for guaranteed kills or objectives
I understand Agurin's frustration when his team doesn't focus on objectives. It's because his macro is immaculate and he knows which objectives are important for the win conditions. It sfrustrating when your team doesn't understand or is too afraid/not confident/ignorant, etc.
@@HO1ySh33t He got frustrated that his team is constantly inting and the nautilus was trolling. Obviously that wasn't a good play and he knows it. It wasn't a lapse of judgement or even an expression of his judgement, it was purely a "im fucking over this get me out" moment. We've all had them, especially if you play the god forsaken role of jungle.
Intro was wrong Agurin didnt start to play it cause he thougt its broken he just wanted to test if she is playable and thats his way to find out if a champ is still good or not. Back in the day like 2 years ago he played her a lot but she was weak for a while now
watched the first 1 min but didn't see the absolute disparity by his team. He almost lost because his team kept running it down when they could've just got a free win.
@@vedantgupta2145 I'm so confused. Do you think that complete embarrassing fumble at lvl 1 was good..? He got his ass beat over some small mobs. That was an absolute iron level failure. Where did he do nothing wrong?
Btw you've said that shyv is probably not good in pro play but good in soloQ. Just wanna say that Agurin's opinion on this is the opposite. Shyvana needs controlled enviroment bcs of her fury (ult). In soloQ there' a lot of random fights that are horrible for her. In pro play there are fights with purpose so Shyvana won't struggle with not having ult that often. Nice video Drew
Thank you mido beast ❤ I love hearing you talk and commentate but I hate watching cause I want to play this mess of a game. Gotta talk myself out of It every time I watch your vids
20:07 I’ve tried soloQ perfect laner coverage as an e4 jg , and laner will int, which neutralizes their lane lead with bounty system and you’re now stuck with low xp and gold because you dropped cs to cover. Agurin is challenger and the laners are still mentally rotten
I've been one-tricking Shyvanna all season long. But did it in midlane. And obviously I'm not a challenger player, but until high gold low platin I did not encounter many issues at all. The main issue is that I've played her as a split-pusher and most teams don't know how to play with a split pusher in this elo.
@@moogiwatta there's no denying that. I believe that I could probably play this up to lower diamond levels (as mid diamond is where I've peaked) but I've become too casual to push. All I've wanted to say is that Shyvanna is an awesome champ and has a lot of potential when played right. That level 6 power-spike is no joke. And I'm already hating the shyvanna rework even though details haven't been announced yet.
Thank got drew said it but I was gonna say syv has been low-key op for YEARS. It’s literally only because not that many people pick her but with the drake buffs if you are a decent jungler you snowball so quick into the mid game and only fall off right at the end
he is just messing around. Midbeast always being sarcastic and overreacting saying stuff like everybody fears this guy, he is the best this and that... but its for fun
At level 17 most champs in the game will have over 100 armor, shyvannas passive helps her be at 130 but tahts not a huge difference to where most champs would be
120 ap on banshees makes it non passive for a pta nashors shyvana with a 120% ap ratio fireball, and a 60% ration twin bite, and a 100% ap ratio dragons descent crazy damage with banshees
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It's not that he doesn't like ganks, it's that Shyvana's not good at ganking unless she has her dragon form available or the lane has enough CC/damage.
Shyvana should 100% be an AP bruiser champion. She is a MAGIC dragon that surrounds herself with fire and shoots fireballs!!! Go away with your AD nonsense.
Mate lol, shyvana has been primary jujngle for 8 years haha. Shyvana top is more of a niche place; though due to her reliance on levels and how hard she scales with items, I do believe thats her best spot. Her AP variant jungle is also her *lowest* winning spot haha
so this sht is why I had a shyv jg that decided to play ap shyv when she had teemo top, kaisa mid, cait adc and swain supp... gotta hate ppl copying sht without knowing the hows or whys
With the amount of league Agurin plays I understand the constant tilt, but man does it make for a poor viewing experience. Kinda brings you down just listening to
I really do love the idea of AP shyvana, it makes you feel like a majestic dragon breathing devestating fire onto everybody. I used to play AP shyvana, but never played her bruiser/ tank. Perhaps, would there be any potential to make her build matter more in deciding her play style? Like kayn/rhaast and Kaisa. If you build enough of a certain stat, it changes the appearance and abilities according to the build (bruiser/ Tank/ ap). Or maybe pick yourself at the beginning which form you want, shyvana is a half dragon after all, I don't think it would be too far to accept that she can change her form. I know this could be three different champions too, but shyvana already has three different playstyles depending on the build, so why not just reinforce it?
"you can definitely play this in your silver games, there basically are no mechanics at all" , then after 25min "is there an AP ratio on the movespeed??" lol
Couple of reasons; 1) doesn't want to screw his tempo as he just killed gromp, so if he doesn't also go kill wolves his respawn timers will be different which will screw his pathing and exp. 2) he doesn't want to show on the map as then his bot loses all pressure and become really open to gank (which happens anyway).
Mid "I'll be honest" Beast being honest with us, honestly
Honestly i think u being honest on this 1 honestly ngl i am being honest
Hey, at least you didnt get it twisted.
Agurin mumbles more than the average rapper in 2017
Turkish guy born in Germany, living in Switzerland streaming in English.
and bans in chat more than hashinshin
Pedoshinshin@@kahinaoftheelements4845
@@kahinaoftheelements4845does he lol?
Agurin is the teammate thats in my head when I play "Ah I messed up, that guy probably hates me right now"
24:01 Shyvanna passive gives her bonus armor and magic resist every time she kills a drake
I'll be honest, Middleton is such a honest man
not trying to flame but agurin looks like he's on the verge of tears constantly
he plays 12 hrs of high elo jungle daily while streaming
Bless you Drew :)
2:10 "then its GOTT'EN" your inner brit came out hahaha
Not even low key flaming the guy who called you out is: 😂 🍿
AP shyv has always been pretty fking good, the only issue is basically only 1 ability does any damage and if you get cc'd you're dead. Its usually a skill issue so good thing good guy Agurin picked it up because hes actually good.
kinda this ya, but her q now does some good dmg even on ap, thats why alot of shyv players are bringing lich bane into her build, r e q and someone is guaranteed dead unless there a mega tank, plus u become a objective god with lichbane and nashors, ur eq smite combo is well over 2200 dmg once u have 3 or 4 items, only reason it doesnt see more play is bc most ppl just r in and die, instead of saving the r for guaranteed kills or objectives
Bronze take lmao
I understand Agurin's frustration when his team doesn't focus on objectives. It's because his macro is immaculate and he knows which objectives are important for the win conditions. It sfrustrating when your team doesn't understand or is too afraid/not confident/ignorant, etc.
His teamfight decision making is just horrendous though, what the fuck was that ult for creep at 27:15 leading to whole team wipe
@@HO1ySh33t He got frustrated that his team is constantly inting and the nautilus was trolling. Obviously that wasn't a good play and he knows it. It wasn't a lapse of judgement or even an expression of his judgement, it was purely a "im fucking over this get me out" moment. We've all had them, especially if you play the god forsaken role of jungle.
@@HO1ySh33t rank 1 on every server dominating soloq surely has bad decision making for teamfights, surely not just a rare bad fight
Intro was wrong Agurin didnt start to play it cause he thougt its broken he just wanted to test if she is playable and thats his way to find out if a champ is still good or not. Back in the day like 2 years ago he played her a lot but she was weak for a while now
This guy and play style are really tough. Now im realizing how all my junglers get 5k dmg a game
Wait I just watched the first 1min and the Viego is just running it down? Not a very astonishing win then
I mean viego did nothing wrong tho, shyvana has a very crappy lv 1, just a team diff
watched the first 1 min but didn't see the absolute disparity by his team. He almost lost because his team kept running it down when they could've just got a free win.
On his side, there’s an AP Naut that missed every hook and died instantly every team fight. Definitely balanced out the Viego. One inter on each team.
Viego ran it down but agurins complete team ran it down lol
@@vedantgupta2145 I'm so confused. Do you think that complete embarrassing fumble at lvl 1 was good..? He got his ass beat over some small mobs. That was an absolute iron level failure. Where did he do nothing wrong?
TY for the Shyv JG commentary. Love your videos and would love to see more JG vids.
Bless you Brother
Btw you've said that shyv is probably not good in pro play but good in soloQ. Just wanna say that Agurin's opinion on this is the opposite. Shyvana needs controlled enviroment bcs of her fury (ult). In soloQ there' a lot of random fights that are horrible for her. In pro play there are fights with purpose so Shyvana won't struggle with not having ult that often. Nice video Drew
17:26
Everyone Tune in to MidBeast's proclamation of "This Guy"
The constant “in your silver games” shade going crazy on this one 😂
As a jungle main it's so nice to see you doing a jungler vid
😂😂 the thumbnail man😂😂😂😂 shyvanna's head has the Challenger logo. My god 😆 💗💗 who is the editor man, awesome
I swear I was praying for the title not saying "Mommy" and hoping it was something different that started with MOM and I'm now completely devastated
Just if you are wondering, The Viego Player is a challenger with 60% winrate on his champion
If you're reading this, shyv passive is 5 armour and 5 MR for every drake she and her team takes.
13:52 categorized as a silver hurted so much 😭
Bless you mid of the beast
that Viego is actually czech challenger Viego otp, pretty nice guy, but seeing him give that first blood made me cough XD
Love you Zuby
THE KATA MAIN NYRO WHO CARRIED AGURIN THAT GAME NEEDS A REVIEW TOO
I love the Agurin content.
Thank you mido beast ❤ I love hearing you talk and commentate but I hate watching cause I want to play this mess of a game. Gotta talk myself out of It every time I watch your vids
I was laughing so much at 12:50 😂😂😂😂
20:07 I’ve tried soloQ perfect laner coverage as an e4 jg , and laner will int, which neutralizes their lane lead with bounty system and you’re now stuck with low xp and gold because you dropped cs to cover. Agurin is challenger and the laners are still mentally rotten
just kicking it with the bois watching league commentary
I like how he told us he flamed him proceeds to downplay his gameplay 😂😂😂
Yes Midbeast, Shyvana is, in fact, Smolder’s step mom.
I think Nau might have actually been part of the Mafia. The way he just hovers behind his Adc to only use spells as they die just to die aswell
Nice lvl 1 int surely this will be a good video
Very solid mid actually you should try it, you press E on waves till you get six and you just press R and bully them, very very good
Bless you MidBeast
Secondhand tilt activated
he should've honored the Nauti, I know MidBeast and I would've
I've been one-tricking Shyvanna all season long. But did it in midlane. And obviously I'm not a challenger player, but until high gold low platin I did not encounter many issues at all. The main issue is that I've played her as a split-pusher and most teams don't know how to play with a split pusher in this elo.
U don’t encounter many issues because ur playing in low elo where people don’t know what’s going on
@@moogiwatta there's no denying that. I believe that I could probably play this up to lower diamond levels (as mid diamond is where I've peaked) but I've become too casual to push. All I've wanted to say is that Shyvanna is an awesome champ and has a lot of potential when played right. That level 6 power-spike is no joke. And I'm already hating the shyvanna rework even though details haven't been announced yet.
Thank got drew said it but I was gonna say syv has been low-key op for YEARS. It’s literally only because not that many people pick her but with the drake buffs if you are a decent jungler you snowball so quick into the mid game and only fall off right at the end
The thumbnail with shyvana is lowkey hard asf
"shut up and carry" when bro's being actively griefed is wild
shyvana is for a long time broken, even before the new patch, alot of people just didnt know, even agurin didnt know
Bless you midbeast
Did Drew screamed "HAZAGI" while sneezing ?
when midbeast had to yell at agurin to actually carry the game :O
How is this a secret account? He's literally been streaming on it, having UA-cam videos on it for a while...
he is just messing around. Midbeast always being sarcastic and overreacting saying stuff like everybody fears this guy, he is the best this and that... but its for fun
Jaymo’s true identity 😮
Agurin needs to learn from beans. Beans unironically has one of the best mentals out of any league streamer I’ve watched.
Bless you beast
At level 17 most champs in the game will have over 100 armor, shyvannas passive helps her be at 130 but tahts not a huge difference to where most champs would be
bless you Midbeast
bless you mister bean
Bless you mister beast
120 ap on banshees makes it non passive for a pta nashors shyvana with a 120% ap ratio fireball, and a 60% ration twin bite, and a 100% ap ratio dragons descent
crazy damage with banshees
bless you midobeasto-san
Bro i wanna see Spear's POV during this game
5-11 masterclass lol
bless you midbeans
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BLESS YOU MIDBEAST
8:08 He is trying so hard to not call it "Nashors Toothbrush" there.
They actually based the nerd emoji on this guy
BLESS YOU POOKIE
It's not that he doesn't like ganks, it's that Shyvana's not good at ganking unless she has her dragon form available or the lane has enough CC/damage.
That‘s why i don‘t like her in low elo
If you can‘t really gank pre 6 then every single lane will actively try to run it down
why bless you mr mid beast
bless you midington beasticus
Good with Shyvanna, ok then, ban her .. Now what are you? 🤣🤣🤣
A man that waits 5 minutes.
Viego fully trolling this game
Shyvana should 100% be an AP bruiser champion. She is a MAGIC dragon that surrounds herself with fire and shoots fireballs!!! Go away with your AD nonsense.
13:25 aight Drew, after this challenge we need to see you climb to Masters with Kat only considering you keep saying she's so OP and easy.
Mate lol, shyvana has been primary jujngle for 8 years haha. Shyvana top is more of a niche place; though due to her reliance on levels and how hard she scales with items, I do believe thats her best spot. Her AP variant jungle is also her *lowest* winning spot haha
Bless you buddy
so this sht is why I had a shyv jg that decided to play ap shyv when she had teemo top, kaisa mid, cait adc and swain supp... gotta hate ppl copying sht without knowing the hows or whys
Not having void and shadowflame, genuinely fucked his dmg this game
wtf was that viego doing...
Ngl, this doesn't even seem like he enjoys playing the game. He seems stressed af.
Shyvana a Half dragon + Smolder a full dragon = Mother and son???
Ha chu mid! Bless you is Thai…. U learned something nerd ❤
With the amount of league Agurin plays I understand the constant tilt, but man does it make for a poor viewing experience. Kinda brings you down just listening to
his this build still the best ?
I really do love the idea of AP shyvana, it makes you feel like a majestic dragon breathing devestating fire onto everybody.
I used to play AP shyvana, but never played her bruiser/ tank.
Perhaps, would there be any potential to make her build matter more in deciding her play style?
Like kayn/rhaast and Kaisa.
If you build enough of a certain stat, it changes the appearance and abilities according to the build (bruiser/ Tank/ ap). Or maybe pick yourself at the beginning which form you want, shyvana is a half dragon after all, I don't think it would be too far to accept that she can change her form.
I know this could be three different champions too, but shyvana already has three different playstyles depending on the build, so why not just reinforce it?
bless you calven klein model midbeast
getting used to wearing a hat i see :*D
"you can definitely play this in your silver games, there basically are no mechanics at all" , then after 25min "is there an AP ratio on the movespeed??" lol
This is the reason all the shyv's are running my games ):
DRAGON? MOMMY? im intreeged :p
Intrigued*
You should react to that katarina mid laner Nyro he is a freak :D
Bless you pookie
"Next time you review this guy please mute his mic " squad👇
why he didn't took the big wave top at 8:30 🤔
Couple of reasons; 1) doesn't want to screw his tempo as he just killed gromp, so if he doesn't also go kill wolves his respawn timers will be different which will screw his pathing and exp. 2) he doesn't want to show on the map as then his bot loses all pressure and become really open to gank (which happens anyway).
Bless you father
It's a solid strategy. For me though, I can only do this for a couple of games, it gets really boring - regardless of the game result.
wait is shyv E an AA reset too??
no
aye nyro is his kat lmao
I'd be tilted after that game. Fuckkkkkk
how can a player without self-reflection when running it down, and just blaming others hit no1 in Korea?
4:36 Shyvana is Ezreal's mummy
havent seen AD shyv for years rip