The barriers and fencing around the airport are perishable and protects the houses, but there are no houses directly straight after the runway so in this case there's nothing to protect anyway. Those barriers and fencing will not cause any life losts. The wall that this plane collided was is built to house the ILS system and its rock solid. Firstly, while it's not abnormal to have the ILS system there, no other airports in the world uses a rock solid wall to hold the ILS system. Every other airport builds it on soft ground. So it's pure negligence and unreasonable airport design for this to be here and its the main cause of all the deaths.
@@rxsyete every aereoport must have ::: in to the end of the Runner ways :: no concrete wall a plenty of grass and Water just like a mud : so the jet can stop quickly with out any explosion !!!!!!!
The wall was there to protect the hotels and buildings that are located further down, if the wall wasn't there the death toll would of been much greater.
poor infrastructure planning... who puts a wall at the end of the run way seriously? if u need to abort take off due to emergency.. then how? crash into the wall?
The pilots seen to skip all the safety check procedures and landed the plane hastily without adhering to the standard SOP e.g. the flaps & spoilers not employed. Look like there was a whole bundle of problems that prevent the pilots to execute any proper action.
@@tupolevi not sure where you get that info, it takes weeks to get info like that... it’s clear that the wall was not allowed to be there..... a belly landing is not uncommon, and the pilot did a great job landing a belly landing... the explosion, and death of the passengers is because of a weirdly placed concrete wall directly at the end of the runway....
@@locngoThere is a video of under the plane from the ground, you can see an object enter the engine and explode. But yes, the bird strike and even the landing didnt cause the fatalities. It was the stupidly placed wall at end of runway...RIP to victims
@@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320 Bird strike and wall yes. But somehow I have the feeling that the pilots panicked and did not deploy features to slow down the plane
None of the videos show the wall they hit maybe because it is 18 in thick solid concrete enough to stop a tank and they know somebody will be sued for that
@@Ocarus0Cycle I think I know what happened here If you look close at the video where the white smoke is at the bird strike you can even see on the left of the puff a dark blotch and hydraulic fluid is usually purple If all hydraulic pressure was bled off from an engine part cutting the line when the bird hit, The pumps on the plane won't do anything it is a closed system until you cut the line like this that explains no flaps, No air brakes and the 737 can control rudder, Elevators and ailerons with cables also without flaps your stall speed would be around 200 so the fast landing and they would choose a belly landing knowing they would stop faster than not having brakes so they did not deploy gear manually and might have thought that dirt embankment for holding up fiberglass antennas would even help slow them how would they know it was loaded with 2 foot thick concrete
Can the media talk about the reinforced concrete wall at the end of the runway please? The airplane wouldn’t have exploded if it didn’t hit the wall, it would’ve just slid into a field.
My cousin’s a pilot; he thinks this is likely pilot error. Many budget airlines promote pilots to captain with only 5 years experience-in contrast, full service airlines (in Asia) only do so with a minimum of 12-15 years, so word is the both the pilots were inexperienced and when the bird strike happened, likely shut down the wrong engine in the go around and decided to land in a panic without going through the checklist or even dropping the speed and touching down way too far down the runway. You can drop the landing gear into place with a mechanical lever, gravity would do the rest, so even with full electronics and hydraulic failure, the landing gear can still be deployed.
Since we were not piloting it is very difficult to come up wirh good answers. Only investigators can be able to establish what went wrong. That concrete wall is a killer and one American expert said it is even a criminal thing have to built that concrete wall at the very end of the runway. South Kurea or other countries would learn very hard lessons from this crash.
Just like how bird brains are not uncommon in Singapore's ruling party.
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The biggest possibility was the plane landing gear indicator malfunctioned. The indicator showed that the landing gear has been lowered, but actually the landing gear got stuck. It was too late to take any action when the plane touched the ground.
Not in landing configuration and not in go around configuration. 1 reverser, no gear, no flaps, no slats, no spoilers, no air brakes, this just makes no sense...
The only scenario that makes sense to me is that the pilots shut down the wrong engine or they lost both engines then hurried to get the aircraft on the ground ASAP.
I think they lost both engines. They try to go around after the first landing attempt failed, they ascended for 15 seconds and started falling. Something definitely happened in the cockpit
That doesn't explain no flaps, Air brakes, No gear and one thrust reverser working the other one not also the engines are at full throttle on the ground something crazy like a device planted
@@Lighttningbolt YES. Why didnt they deploy the gear? 1 engine was running. There would be hydraulic pressure in accumulators as well, plus the RAT. They can fly with 1 engine too. Korean pilots are drunk a lot as well.
Bird didn't bring the craft down. The pilot did land the craft, may be on its belly.. Forget about asking Why the landing gear was not there.. Under the circumstances the pilot did his duty and it would have slowed down to a halt.. Except for the WALL to secure the ILS system... at the end of the runway..
It appears the birds did some other damage or was it birds or a device because why were the engines still full throttle and no hydraulics no gear something crazy was wrong like a well placed device I do not see any birds in the video when there is a puff of smoke
Why didnt they deploy the gear? 1 engine was running. There would be hydraulic pressure in accumulators as well, plus the RAT. They can fly with 1 engine too. Drunk
@@iorr98 Why didnt they deploy the gear? 1 engine was running. There would be hydraulic pressure in accumulators as well, plus the RAT. They can fly with 1 engine too.
I had seen other videos talking about how the K govt and mainstream medias are avoiding talking about the "small hill" structure holding the ILS system at the end of the runway which shouldn't be there because overruns are accounted for time to time therefore you don't put a hard structure at the end of the runway, and in this case so near after the end of the runway. The ILS system are embedded on the flat ground so if overruns were to happen the plane can run through it with minimum damage to the plane body and come to a stop using friction of the body, not forcefully by a "hill structure".
Location of the airport apparently was in a migratory route, and the concrete wall that shouldn't have been there are the real questions here. Airport standards are more to blame here than the actual plane and pilot.
There is evidence that the pilot may have shut down the wrong engine after the bird strike. The distortion on the right engine infers it was functional yet the left engine has no distortion which looks like it was not functioning
*Expert views spot on the missing landing gear also the middle plan wheels and flappings were missing during the acceleration on the runway are all highly questionable cos its not about the bird strike*
Rumour has it that the flimsy ILS antennae once got blown away by a typhoon, and the airport president decided to reinstall them on a concrete structure. That sounds pretty dumb though, since the typical light steel towers, which you see in other airports, would do the trick at least as well.
No reinforced concrete wall built across the end of the Runway then everybody on that flight would be alive right now. This would normally be a metal structure supporting the antennas and sand sand sand in the runoff area after it. I have seen military aircraft overrun and burst through metal hinged crash gates at the end of the runway many times - its why they are there!
I'd speculate when the accident report come out, pilot ps mismanaging the crisis will prolly be the main factor; they likely attempted a go-around after the bird strike disabled the no.2 engine and botched the procedure
standby is not enough for gear something crazy like a device I mean do you see any birds in the video that shows the puff of white smoke cause I see no birds at all
The 737 has a manually deployable landing gear when hydraulics fail. Once released, they simply free fall with gravity. Possibly the pilots were overloaded with decision making and did not release the landing gear. Around 80% of accidents are due to pilot error.
@@susisujetin Unless they were drunk. Why didnt they deploy the gear? 1 engine was running, both have pumps. There would be hydraulic pressure in accumulators as well, plus the RAT. They can fly with 1 engine too.
@@chye588yes , but they simply didn’t have time ,easy to get confused when lots of alarms going on,few planes crushed in the past when they forgot to deploy landing gears ,this accident happened before this is not a first time occurrence
Why didnt they deploy the gear? 1 engine was running. There would be hydraulic pressure in accumulators as well, plus the RAT. They can fly with 1 engine too.
@@KyleReese-vt8bo If you're going to copy-paste your replies, then me too: What if they couldn't deploy the gear? The video shows no flaps working either, which would point to a hydraulic system failure. What if that failure prevented the pilot from using the manual option? As you know, it can only be used if the landing gear level is OFF. Besides, this was a Boeing, it's not like those airplanes never lose doors or tires midflight.
my guess (I am not a pilot, total speculation) I think it was a bird strike and it knocked out both engines, they lose all power and they couldn't use any hydraulics. So this caused them to have a gear up landing, and why didn't they go around? Because if they lost both engines, they may not have had enough speed to make a full go around on the climb up. Although in the 737 pilots can put the gear down with gravity, I think they just didn't think about that while in the rush of figuring things out. (TOTAL SPECULATION)
I know exactly what happened: they forgot the spare landing gear in the trunk, and the main landing gear in the wheel well. I tell you, those mechanics are getting sleepy...
The plane wasn't slowing down as if the flaps and reverse thrusters weren't engaged. I wonder if a bird strike could have also damaged the windshield, so it blew in on the crew while they were in the process of landing. It doesn't seem possible, but a birdstrike which resulted in a cockpit disaster would mean the reverse thrusters and flaps wouldn't be engaged because the crew had been clobbered.
Then who landed the plane and talked to the tower and you can see the co pilot with his hands trying to push the windshield back as though to protect himself from the wall
@@Fairbanks84 I figured that they were very strong, but I was looking at the improbable. The other more likely possibility is that under the pressure of the bird strike, the pilot had a heart attack or aneurysm when coming in for the landing.
isn't South Korea working on a long range missile defense system? Is it possible that the missile defence system uses a heat seeking mechanism and targets plane engines?
Seem a lot of pilot error. Preparation for landing taking lotsa time, for at least 15 to 20 min before, in which a lot could have done for landing before the bird hits, which normally at a lower altitute. The flap was not deploy down,, speed could have been less faster than what we have seen on the video,, especially assumming the pilot attempting an emergency landing, even IF the landing gear could not be release. Well, many question actually. Will leave it to the investigator to do their job.
The public won't know how the plane is maintained, what parts are used, whether it's refurbished or new, but the ticket price should provide some reference…
The thing is it might not actually be birds- it could be bird-shaped drones sent from North Korea. Right now, South Korea is in a state of anarchy (since the president was impeached a couple of weeks ago.) When the conservative president, who was pro-American, was impeached, a law was also passed to convert this awful airport into an international airport. What's even more suspicious is that the accident happened exactly 21 days after the law was passed. Doesn't that raise questions? I don't understand why a solid concrete localizer was placed at the runway, why anti-American, pro-China progressive politicians pushed for this airport to become international, why only one bird alert officer was on duty, or why the Air Traffic Controller directed the pilot to land in the opposite direction despite knowing about the concrete localizer. Isn't this all too suspicious? But they overlooked that Boeing is the manufacturer of the aircraft. If they (politicians and medias) insist that the cause of the accident was an airframe defect, Boeing won't just sit quietly- they will bring everything to light.
People are giving so much importance on the wall. We gotta know first a) why the engine was spewing fire b) why those landing gears never came down c) why the flaps were still up d) and e) whether going to Incheon was still possible for a longer runway.
Everyone looks for a single cause for the accident, but it's a combination of multiple wrongs and misfortunes. Yet, all of those misfortunes could have been forgiven if there had not been a concrete wall at the end of the runway.
The wall at the end of the runway was there to protect the hotels and buildings that are located further down, if the wall wasn't there the death toll would of been much greater. I wonder during the panic in the cockpit they shut down the wrong engine causing a series of events that led to this horrific accident?
A bird strike is a contributing factor at best. Everyone is jumping onto the bird strike as an easy answer to avoid the elephant in the room. That is, the condition of the aircraft and the state of mind of the crew.
The first report of the incident is the front landing gear collapsed due to mulfunction. This is one of the main cause that caused the death of so many lives. Bird strikes was not possible since birds do not fly so low to cause the accident. Despite of the birds strike, it will take the jet engines to go a distance before it malfunction. Other malfunctions may due to computer glitch or machanical failure. The main fault still lies on the failure of the nose gear collapsed.
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The barriers and fencing around the airport are perishable and protects the houses, but there are no houses directly straight after the runway so in this case there's nothing to protect anyway. Those barriers and fencing will not cause any life losts.
The wall that this plane collided was is built to house the ILS system and its rock solid. Firstly, while it's not abnormal to have the ILS system there, no other airports in the world uses a rock solid wall to hold the ILS system. Every other airport builds it on soft ground. So it's pure negligence and unreasonable airport design for this to be here and its the main cause of all the deaths.
The wall that was not supposed to be there was the killer.
@@rxsyete every aereoport must have ::: in to the end of the Runner ways :: no concrete wall a plenty of grass and Water just like a mud : so the jet can stop quickly with out any explosion !!!!!!!
The wall was there to protect the hotels and buildings that are located further down, if the wall wasn't there the death toll would of been much greater.
i agree, whose idiots idea to build a concrete barrier around the landing vicinity ???
@@feeb812 Did you not read my comment?
@@johnnyrocket80085then what was the overrun runway for? The concrete wall was located 20 meters into the overrun
Normally it’s just a chain link fence at the end of the runway. There shouldn’t be a whole wall and other junk there for the plane to slam into.
poor infrastructure planning... who puts a wall at the end of the run way seriously? if u need to abort take off due to emergency.. then how? crash into the wall?
The. Birds got nothing to do:: was the concrete wall wall the cause of the explosion of the jet !!!!!
The pilots seen to skip all the safety check procedures and landed the plane hastily without adhering to the standard SOP e.g. the flaps & spoilers not employed. Look like there was a whole bundle of problems that prevent the pilots to execute any proper action.
@@tupolevi not sure where you get that info, it takes weeks to get info like that... it’s clear that the wall was not allowed to be there..... a belly landing is not uncommon, and the pilot did a great job landing a belly landing... the explosion, and death of the passengers is because of a weirdly placed concrete wall directly at the end of the runway....
Whoever approved that wall needs to be criminally charged.
Nope its the missing landing gears caused it
@@billythefrogBelly landing is dangerous that make fuel tipped over
Pointless interview with a clueless 'expert'.
You could have saved everyone lots of time by not bothering.
Why are you guys still dwelling on about the birds. It’s even shown on this video what was the cause of the huge fatalities
exactly, there is no evidence of any bird
Easy to blame birds
@@locngoThere is a video of under the plane from the ground, you can see an object enter the engine and explode. But yes, the bird strike and even the landing didnt cause the fatalities. It was the stupidly placed wall at end of runway...RIP to victims
@@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320 Bird strike and wall yes. But somehow I have the feeling that the pilots panicked and did not deploy features to slow down the plane
Because they are bird brains.
None of the videos show the wall they hit maybe because it is 18 in thick solid concrete enough to stop a tank and they know somebody will be sued for that
Military airport too. Very common
@@heythere5817 This is a civilian airport
@@Lighttningbolt’too’
@@Ocarus0Cycle I think I know what happened here If you look close at the video where the white smoke is at the bird strike you can even see on the left of the puff a dark blotch and hydraulic fluid is usually purple If all hydraulic pressure was bled off from an engine part cutting the line when the bird hit, The pumps on the plane won't do anything it is a closed system until you cut the line like this that explains no flaps, No air brakes and the 737 can control rudder, Elevators and ailerons with cables also without flaps your stall speed would be around 200 so the fast landing and they would choose a belly landing knowing they would stop faster than not having brakes so they did not deploy gear manually and might have thought that dirt embankment for holding up fiberglass antennas would even help slow them how would they know it was loaded with 2 foot thick concrete
@@Lighttningbolt
I heard there are 'hydraulic fuses' that close and prevent sudden pressure loss in situations like that?
Can the media talk about the reinforced concrete wall at the end of the runway please? The airplane wouldn’t have exploded if it didn’t hit the wall, it would’ve just slid into a field.
Despite all other factors, those people would be alive if not for the stupidly placed concrete wall
there is a tree and a house beyond that wall..
Then they should have at least plan the design of the airport first? Like not just suddenly placing anything that could turn into a disaster?
the wall killed them wall wall
My cousin’s a pilot; he thinks this is likely pilot error. Many budget airlines promote pilots to captain with only 5 years experience-in contrast, full service airlines (in Asia) only do so with a minimum of 12-15 years, so word is the both the pilots were inexperienced and when the bird strike happened, likely shut down the wrong engine in the go around and decided to land in a panic without going through the checklist or even dropping the speed and touching down way too far down the runway. You can drop the landing gear into place with a mechanical lever, gravity would do the rest, so even with full electronics and hydraulic failure, the landing gear can still be deployed.
its the airport design! why theres a huge concrete wall at the end of runway?/
Since we were not piloting it is very difficult to come up wirh good answers. Only investigators can be able to establish what went wrong. That concrete wall is a killer and one American expert said it is even a criminal thing have to built that concrete wall at the very end of the runway. South Kurea or other countries would learn very hard lessons from this crash.
Just like how bird brains are not uncommon in Singapore's ruling party.
The biggest possibility was the plane landing gear indicator malfunctioned. The indicator showed that the landing gear has been lowered, but actually the landing gear got stuck. It was too late to take any action when the plane touched the ground.
ah no...
Maybe a failed go around. That could explain the configuration (no gear) and why it made contact so far down the runway going way too fast.
Highly agree
"made contact so far down the runway going way too fast" yes, why people be tripping about the "wall" is beyond me
Not in landing configuration and not in go around configuration. 1 reverser, no gear, no flaps, no slats, no spoilers, no air brakes, this just makes no sense...
The go-around was climbing for a few seconds before descending again
The only scenario that makes sense to me is that the pilots shut down the wrong engine or they lost both engines then hurried to get the aircraft on the ground ASAP.
I think they lost both engines. They try to go around after the first landing attempt failed, they ascended for 15 seconds and started falling. Something definitely happened in the cockpit
That doesn't explain no flaps, Air brakes, No gear and one thrust reverser working the other one not also the engines are at full throttle on the ground something crazy like a device planted
@@Lighttningbolt the pilots panicked. Only 8 min from the time they suffered the first bird strike to crash.
@@Lighttningbolt YES. Why didnt they deploy the gear? 1 engine was running. There would be hydraulic pressure in accumulators as well, plus the RAT. They can fly with 1 engine too. Korean pilots are drunk a lot as well.
@@EveretteMash They are trained.
Bird didn't bring the craft down. The pilot did land the craft, may be on its belly.. Forget about asking Why the landing gear was not there.. Under the circumstances the pilot did his duty and it would have slowed down to a halt.. Except for the WALL to secure the ILS system... at the end of the runway..
The same thing happened in Jamaica in 2007, everyone survived because there was no wall.
The plane used 3/4 of the runway length when it finally touched down and still going way too fast.
There was something very wrong with that plane.
It appears the birds did some other damage or was it birds or a device because why were the engines still full throttle and no hydraulics no gear something crazy was wrong like a well placed device I do not see any birds in the video when there is a puff of smoke
Why didnt they deploy the gear? 1 engine was running. There would be hydraulic pressure in accumulators as well, plus the RAT. They can fly with 1 engine too. Drunk
@@iorr98 Why didnt they deploy the gear? 1 engine was running. There would be hydraulic pressure in accumulators as well, plus the RAT. They can fly with 1 engine too.
Solid wall at the end of the runway? It's just like a ticking timebomb.
Reverse landing wall was check point of starting takeoff run
The emergency landing is superb, but suddenly it has a wall in front. Maybe the pilot has already tried the best n is not aware about the wall
I had seen other videos talking about how the K govt and mainstream medias are avoiding talking about the "small hill" structure holding the ILS system at the end of the runway which shouldn't be there because overruns are accounted for time to time therefore you don't put a hard structure at the end of the runway, and in this case so near after the end of the runway. The ILS system are embedded on the flat ground so if overruns were to happen the plane can run through it with minimum damage to the plane body and come to a stop using friction of the body, not forcefully by a "hill structure".
Bird strike. The big bird struck the wall.
Location of the airport apparently was in a migratory route, and the concrete wall that shouldn't have been there are the real questions here. Airport standards are more to blame here than the actual plane and pilot.
I think the captain wasn't planning on a belly landing.
He didn't know the gear wasn't extended.
Did this guy say he is not a pilot?
yep.
But apparently he's an 'expert'.
There is evidence that the pilot may have shut down the wrong engine after the bird strike.
The distortion on the right engine infers it was functional yet the left engine has no distortion which looks like it was not functioning
Now the real question is how the hell did the wall did not break when a huge plane just slamed it?? Is it made of metal or what?
*Expert views spot on the missing landing gear also the middle plan wheels and flappings were missing during the acceleration on the runway are all highly questionable cos its not about the bird strike*
Bird started the events
Remove the freaking wall!!
The birds ate the landing gear? 🤔
This bird theory is less believable because there was another scare with the landing gear today.
Wow a world class joker.
The pilot needs help because the levers to lower the gears are located under the seat.
I think the pilot did a great job of landing the plane, but that wall though.
Rumour has it that the flimsy ILS antennae once got blown away by a typhoon, and the airport president decided to reinstall them on a concrete structure. That sounds pretty dumb though, since the typical light steel towers, which you see in other airports, would do the trick at least as well.
Sorry for those families 😢
PILOT ERROR!
They probably shut down the wrong engine after a bird took out one of them.
They appeared to lose power on landing control and gear is a mystery. It may take a long time to find out . ty
No reinforced concrete wall built across the end of the Runway then everybody on that flight would be alive right now. This would normally be a metal structure supporting the antennas and sand sand sand in the runoff area after it. I have seen military aircraft overrun and burst through metal hinged crash gates at the end of the runway many times - its why they are there!
Bird strike the catalyst. Pilot panic looks to be the cause of the tragedy.
I'd speculate when the accident report come out, pilot ps mismanaging the crisis will prolly be the main factor; they likely attempted a go-around after the bird strike disabled the no.2 engine and botched the procedure
Why landing gear not come down. From what I read the 737-800 as A,B , and standby hydraulic motors.
standby is not enough for gear something crazy like a device I mean do you see any birds in the video that shows the puff of white smoke cause I see no birds at all
The 737 has a manually deployable landing gear when hydraulics fail. Once released, they simply free fall with gravity. Possibly the pilots were overloaded with decision making and did not release the landing gear. Around 80% of accidents are due to pilot error.
If both engines failed then they wouldn’t be able to go around in the first place,most likely they forgot to deploy landing gear,
No way. It would be like forgetting to open the door when exiting a car.
@@susisujetin Unless they were drunk. Why didnt they deploy the gear? 1 engine was running, both have pumps. There would be hydraulic pressure in accumulators as well, plus the RAT. They can fly with 1 engine too.
It’s happened in the past,same situation
Is there a notification if landing gear not deployed?
@@chye588yes , but they simply didn’t have time ,easy to get confused when lots of alarms going on,few planes crushed in the past when they forgot to deploy landing gears ,this accident happened before this is not a first time occurrence
Emergency landing gear should be on all planes , as well as a metal cone built in front of engines too deflect bird strikes.
Bird strike my Backside.
Can't be dismiss. Birds warning was reported by the control tower.
You think device placed near the engine causing puff of smoke? cause I don't see any birds in the puff smoke video
Well explained…
I hope that's sarcasm.
I wish people would stop blaming the pilots as the first solution for everything.
Why didnt they deploy the gear? 1 engine was running. There would be hydraulic pressure in accumulators as well, plus the RAT. They can fly with 1 engine too.
The report will show it was the pilotes to blame,
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but pilot error could very well be a factor here
@@KyleReese-vt8bo If you're going to copy-paste your replies, then me too: What if they couldn't deploy the gear? The video shows no flaps working either, which would point to a hydraulic system failure. What if that failure prevented the pilot from using the manual option? As you know, it can only be used if the landing gear level is OFF. Besides, this was a Boeing, it's not like those airplanes never lose doors or tires midflight.
my guess (I am not a pilot, total speculation) I think it was a bird strike and it knocked out both engines, they lose all power and they couldn't use any hydraulics.
So this caused them to have a gear up landing, and why didn't they go around? Because if they lost both engines, they may not have had enough speed to make a full go around on the climb up.
Although in the 737 pilots can put the gear down with gravity, I think they just didn't think about that while in the rush of figuring things out.
(TOTAL SPECULATION)
Why is a non-pilot commenting so much?
Are you trying to excuse them for turning off the wrong engine?🙈
Multiple bird strikes causing Multiple failures including electrical failure according to a aviation expert on Australia news report earlier.
It was obviously sold at the market.
Water ditching could be a better choice.
The mystery for me is who thought it's a good idea to put a 🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱 there?
Its also a mystery as to when your dad will get back from the store
True, The same thing happened in Jamaica in 2007, everyone survived because there was no wall.
The writing is on the wall for the investigation.
😂
Instead of a hard concrete wall, there should be a steel fence .
The main prob is why the landing gear is not deployed, seems like something not right here.
And today another jeju air plane had to turn back to gimpo airport due to landing gear problem....why??
discount jet with discount pilot
I know exactly what happened: they forgot the spare landing gear in the trunk, and the main landing gear in the wheel well. I tell you, those mechanics are getting sleepy...
The plane wasn't slowing down as if the flaps and reverse thrusters weren't engaged. I wonder if a bird strike could have also damaged the windshield, so it blew in on the crew while they were in the process of landing. It doesn't seem possible, but a birdstrike which resulted in a cockpit disaster would mean the reverse thrusters and flaps wouldn't be engaged because the crew had been clobbered.
Then who landed the plane and talked to the tower and you can see the co pilot with his hands trying to push the windshield back as though to protect himself from the wall
This bird weighed over 2,000 pounds. A 300 mph collision with a plane will do a lot of damage.
Airplane windshields typically have multiple layers of glass, the outermost being the thickest.
@@alanstevens1296 Likely a drone bird with a device
@@Fairbanks84 I figured that they were very strong, but I was looking at the improbable. The other more likely possibility is that under the pressure of the bird strike, the pilot had a heart attack or aneurysm when coming in for the landing.
LIKELY IS PURE SPECULATION. NOT ONE CRITIC WAS IN THE COCKPIT
it was the concrete barrier wall that causes to end the mishap, the plane was looking fine hit the ground fine compared to the one in kazakhstan ???
isn't South Korea working on a long range missile defense system? Is it possible that the missile defence system uses a heat seeking mechanism and targets plane engines?
It was birds. There is no way a freaking anti air missile hits the aircraft based on it's flight path.
@@Aichen-dj6qg your user handle looks like an AI bot name, you have just confirmed my theory
Breather test on alcohol and medical checks on pilot and air stewards before starting their work for the safety of the passengers life
The pilot land the plane but no landing gear
if birds strikes are to blame how high are the birds flying in the atmosphere ????
Not very high compared to an aircraft's cruising altitude
Pilot suicide by stopping all the landing gears ?
experts agree that Drones were in the area recently and they are probly experimenting with humans
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Seem a lot of pilot error. Preparation for landing taking lotsa time, for at least 15 to 20 min before, in which a lot could have done for landing before the bird hits, which normally at a lower altitute. The flap was not deploy down,, speed could have been less faster than what we have seen on the video,, especially assumming the pilot attempting an emergency landing, even IF the landing gear could not be release. Well, many question actually. Will leave it to the investigator to do their job.
If this was Cap. Sully he would ignore the tower and try to find a save place to land 😢
Better RESEARCH HOW MANY RUNWAYS HAVE THESE. JEEZ
Not very insightful
The l. gear would deploy. RAT and gravity.
Jeju runs a full Boeing fleet; I'm sure this has nothing to do with their rampant lack of quality control
No landing gear. Wings Breaks ? Why a wall? I think without the wall the outcome b better.
The public won't know how the plane is maintained, what parts are used, whether it's refurbished or new, but the ticket price should provide some reference…
? Jeju air has a good safety record
@@SparkzMxzXZ A lot of drunk pilots...
The thing is it might not actually be birds- it could be bird-shaped drones sent from North Korea.
Right now, South Korea is in a state of anarchy (since the president was impeached a couple of weeks ago.) When the conservative president, who was pro-American, was impeached, a law was also passed to convert this awful airport into an international airport.
What's even more suspicious is that the accident happened exactly 21 days after the law was passed. Doesn't that raise questions?
I don't understand why a solid concrete localizer was placed at the runway, why anti-American, pro-China progressive politicians pushed for this airport to become international, why only one bird alert officer was on duty, or why the Air Traffic Controller directed the pilot to land in the opposite direction despite knowing about the concrete localizer. Isn't this all too suspicious?
But they overlooked that Boeing is the manufacturer of the aircraft. If they (politicians and medias) insist that the cause of the accident was an airframe defect, Boeing won't just sit quietly- they will bring everything to light.
It is the fking concrete wall. Some genius thought it was a great Idea
Boeing , Your Number One Flying Coffin
737 to be precise
The 737-800 has one of the best safety records in the world.
@@United_Continental_767 737-800's fatal accident rate is lower than that of A320.
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People are giving so much importance on the wall. We gotta know first a) why the engine was spewing fire b) why those landing gears never came down c) why the flaps were still up d) and e) whether going to Incheon was still possible for a longer runway.
People are giving importance to the wall because it’s the only cause of the accident we know for sure so far
@Ocarus0Cycle It is not the cause. It was just the final straw. It was a series of events that began way before that plane hit there.
Everyone looks for a single cause for the accident, but it's a combination of multiple wrongs and misfortunes. Yet, all of those misfortunes could have been forgiven if there had not been a concrete wall at the end of the runway.
The wall at the end of the runway was there to protect the hotels and buildings that are located further down, if the wall wasn't there the death toll would of been much greater.
I wonder during the panic in the cockpit they shut down the wrong engine causing a series of events that led to this horrific accident?
This bird weighed over 2,000 pounds. A 300 mph collision with a plane will do a lot of damage.
Boeing........count your days
Nah
Boeing faulty aircraft is responsible
monmy dyed
A bird strike is a contributing factor at best. Everyone is jumping onto the bird strike as an easy answer to avoid the elephant in the room.
That is, the condition of the aircraft and the state of mind of the crew.
The first report of the incident is the front landing gear collapsed due to mulfunction. This is one of the main cause that caused the death of so many lives. Bird strikes was not possible since birds do not fly so low to cause the accident. Despite of the birds strike, it will take the jet engines to go a distance before it malfunction. Other malfunctions may due to computer glitch or machanical failure. The main fault still lies on the failure of the nose gear collapsed.
BLM
'Birds Lives Matter
Russia job again?
It's Boeing 737 again, and again.
If it's the Airbus there wouldn't have any of this problem.
They need to take the 737 out of service completely.
There goes the hype and hoooo haaa of the US made products, even the EU made products are nothing more but expensive products nowadays
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Well said
Concrete barrier is the one that killed 179 South Korean and its not the bird, not the gear but “SOLID CONCRETE BARRIER”
'Bird strike' Korean is becoming policial correct.
Both landing gears, nose and fuselage, and both engines failed at the same time ??? BOEING .
Pilot switched off wrong engine
U can walk or use sukhoi or Comac
Heard it’s great