Fantastic and unique collection of footage! Never saw the GM Aerotrain in action (looks like a car at the rear, understand they made only 2 of these) and also loved the triple steam lash-up! Also, you can see the Aerotrain at the Museum of Transportation at Green Bay Wisconsin!
Yes indeed. The most powerful steam locomotive ever designed. Too bad our youth of this day are not interested in designing and building locomotives but instead are focused on useless entertainment provided by role models like beyonce and pokemon. Ah yes, only the US has a unique view on passenger rail as being ''nostalgic'' and not part of everyday transportation like the rest of the world who is way advanced in their rail system. Steam locomotives are not old technology, they could be every bit modern and improved and have overcome the so called inefficiencies that the oil companies who seduced railways into buying diesels.
@@torquetrain8963 It's all about infrastructure and maintenance costs. Maintenance could probably be worked out well to match or maybe out-perform the costs of diesel (NYC did it with their Niagras) but retooling the current infrastructure to suit steam power is a gargantuan effort. Huge modifications to fueling equipment and procedures in addition to retooling shops and training people to work on steam locomotives is beyond prohibitive for any major railroad. Steam could be made to work on short lines though. The Strasburg RR does it pretty well and they use steam for freight when it's convenient. And yes, the oil companies/automakers have us by the balls when it comes to transport. Lots of urban rail networks were bought out by automakers for the sole purpose shutting them down and getting people to buy cars instead. Los Angeles would be a much cleaner city if it's rail networks and planned rail networks hadn't been decimated by the auto industry. Cross country passenger rail wouldn't work well in the US. We're more spread out than Europe and aircraft are far more flexible. People would rather pay a little extra to get somewhere in a few hours rather than a day or two.
@@mikepericolosi9386 They had 27 Q-series locomotives total, one experimental Q1, which was fairly unsuccessful and ended up being scrapped in a few years, and twenty six Q2s. The Q1 design was refined and modified into the Q2, which had one prototype and 25 production locomotives... The Q2s ended up being the most successful of Pennsy's Duplex locomotives, as well as the largest non-articulated locomotives ever built.
@@Dinosorable Yeah pretty sure the S1 was the largest. They were really limited in where they could operate that huge thing. It was really more of a PR tool than anything and didn't stay in service long.
Ironically, the PRR T1 Trust acquired the sole surviving PRR long haul tender that came off of a J-1 class locomotive. Its as if it was meant to be since it wasn't scrapped and will be fitted back onto a steam locomotive, only rebuilt in a T1 configuration and getting an oil bunker installed since the Trust is making 5550 an oil burner. Not gonna complain since 5550 is the next member and not a exact replica of an original T1. Not to mention having it burn oil would greatly allow 5550 to travel throughout the country, especially out west. Personally I prefer coal, but having 5550 burn oil is not an issue for me.
@@wordenentertainment1997 The tender being used by the trust was actually among a series of tenders built without engines in 1939. #6659 is a class 210F75a “Coast to Coast” tender that was paired with an M-1. The J-1 locomotives used class 210F84 tenders.
I question the authenticity of the sound in this video. The Q2 rounding the curve light-engined at 1:06 sounds pretty much like a Union Pacific Challenger (the bell sound gave it away). It is still a great video, as the views of the mighty PRR Duplexes are treasures to behold.
I agree, the sounds don't match the vid. It would have been nice to not have the printing on the bottom of the frame for the whole length of it. As a boy I rode in the Aerotrain, it was fast but rough riding.
Some innovative fans such as John Prophet made authentic on-scene audio recordings in the late 1940's as they filmed. But it wasn't easy as the recorders of that day were large, heavy, and ran only from 110 volt ac power. Most of the authentic PRR audio was recorded by John.
AT 2.25 - for anyone that would know, coming out of the portal of the tunnel, a track is running off to the right [left on the screen] - would this be the former Muleshoe line?
@@grobterm Then how do you explain the restoration of steam locomotives like UP Challenger 3985, UP 844, and the soon-to-be completed Big Boy? If the pollution claim was to be true, steam locomotive restoration wouldn't be allowed.
I have always had a fear of when the trains lean into the curve. I always thought they would derail if they leaned to much but it has never happened but if it has, I haven't heard of it.
As long as they're going fast enough, inertia pushes them down onto the rails. Theoretically, they're pulling slightly more than 1 g through a bend like that.
The Pennsylvania Railroad Q2 class 4-4-6-4 Duplex. A locomotive that broke the world record for the highest strength/pulling power output for a non-articulated steam locomotive. (Nearly 8,000 horsepower). Many argue of all the Duplexes ever built, the Q2 was the greatest of them all. Me, it's a tie between the T1 & Q2.
+vector6977 It was the Aerotrain. A diesel made by GM and had very limited success on the Pennsy. Only 2 were ever made and they ended service (I believe) on the Rock Island RR.
Diesels are stronger, but steam engines look soooo much better and the sounds have character to them. Wish the diesels didn't wipe out so many steam locomotive classes.
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Who ever caught these videos must of savored them forever.
1:22 It’s so fascinating seeing a triple-header of an L1s, a K4s, and a T1 😅
That’s a K4 sandwiched between the L1 and T1?
Fantastic and unique collection of footage! Never saw the GM Aerotrain in action (looks like a car at the rear, understand they made only 2 of these) and also loved the triple steam lash-up! Also, you can see the Aerotrain at the Museum of Transportation at Green Bay Wisconsin!
1:05 I think that a new Q2 needs to be built. Maybe alongside the T1?
Meep Chovie I agree with a Q2 and T1 and a K4 might add a J1 for the heck of it
Yes indeed. The most powerful steam locomotive ever designed. Too bad our youth of this day are not interested in designing and building locomotives but instead are focused on useless entertainment provided by role models like beyonce and pokemon. Ah yes, only the US has a unique view on passenger rail as being ''nostalgic'' and not part of everyday transportation like the rest of the world who is way advanced in their rail system. Steam locomotives are not old technology, they could be every bit modern and improved and have overcome the so called inefficiencies that the oil companies who seduced railways into buying diesels.
@@torquetrain8963 It's all about infrastructure and maintenance costs. Maintenance could probably be worked out well to match or maybe out-perform the costs of diesel (NYC did it with their Niagras) but retooling the current infrastructure to suit steam power is a gargantuan effort. Huge modifications to fueling equipment and procedures in addition to retooling shops and training people to work on steam locomotives is beyond prohibitive for any major railroad. Steam could be made to work on short lines though. The Strasburg RR does it pretty well and they use steam for freight when it's convenient. And yes, the oil companies/automakers have us by the balls when it comes to transport. Lots of urban rail networks were bought out by automakers for the sole purpose shutting them down and getting people to buy cars instead. Los Angeles would be a much cleaner city if it's rail networks and planned rail networks hadn't been decimated by the auto industry. Cross country passenger rail wouldn't work well in the US. We're more spread out than Europe and aircraft are far more flexible. People would rather pay a little extra to get somewhere in a few hours rather than a day or two.
I'd rather see the S1. There's not a single steam turbine operational in the US. Plus, turbines are easier to maintain and simpler to build.
@@dillongriffinf-1547 also the K5, K3, K2, K1, K0, T2 4-8-4 (Streamlined) a PRR 4-6-4, J2 Berkshire
It would be cool to see 5550 doing the same run
Yes
LOVE THESE LOCOMOTIVES!!!
I like how @ 2:42 the second locomotive chugs serious black smoke, then shuts it off right before the tunnel.
I didn't know they had multiple different types of engines double/tripleheading, very cool.
Oh to have seen these charging the curve back in the day
It’s such a weird sight seeing a massive. 4-4-6-4 rumble by then you ask yourself “where are the freight cars?”
I love the Pennsylvania railroad. When running hot there's no smoke.
They need to make a replica of the prr j1
1:05 I never knew they operated the Q2 over the curve because the wheel base was too long... Huh. Still cool to see one in action though!
I thought they had one which was experimental!
Pittsburg was the eastern limit of Q-2 operational range. It could have been running light to Altoona shops.
@@mikepericolosi9386 They had 27 Q-series locomotives total, one experimental Q1, which was fairly unsuccessful and ended up being scrapped in a few years, and twenty six Q2s.
The Q1 design was refined and modified into the Q2, which had one prototype and 25 production locomotives... The Q2s ended up being the most successful of Pennsy's Duplex locomotives, as well as the largest non-articulated locomotives ever built.
The Arctic Gamer
Wasn’t the Pennsy S1 the largest non-articulated locomotive ever built?
@@Dinosorable Yeah pretty sure the S1 was the largest. They were really limited in where they could operate that huge thing. It was really more of a PR tool than anything and didn't stay in service long.
Great memories. Thanks for sharing
The glory days of prr
1:14 a T-1 and a J-1 an awesome sight because they are both my favorite American engines ( I say American because my fav loco is the CP Selkirk )
Ironically, the PRR T1 Trust acquired the sole surviving PRR long haul tender that came off of a J-1 class locomotive. Its as if it was meant to be since it wasn't scrapped and will be fitted back onto a steam locomotive, only rebuilt in a T1 configuration and getting an oil bunker installed since the Trust is making 5550 an oil burner. Not gonna complain since 5550 is the next member and not a exact replica of an original T1. Not to mention having it burn oil would greatly allow 5550 to travel throughout the country, especially out west. Personally I prefer coal, but having 5550 burn oil is not an issue for me.
Train Race The T1 Wins!
@@wordenentertainment1997 The tender being used by the trust was actually among a series of tenders built without engines in 1939. #6659 is a class 210F75a “Coast to Coast” tender that was paired with an M-1. The J-1 locomotives used class 210F84 tenders.
Pennsylvania somehow got steam engines that are epic
Thanks for the memories.
I question the authenticity of the sound in this video. The Q2 rounding the curve light-engined at 1:06 sounds pretty much like a Union Pacific Challenger (the bell sound gave it away).
It is still a great video, as the views of the mighty PRR Duplexes are treasures to behold.
I agree, the sounds don't match the vid. It would have been nice to not have the printing on the bottom of the frame for the whole length of it. As a boy I rode in the Aerotrain, it was fast but rough riding.
Some innovative fans such as John Prophet made authentic on-scene audio recordings in the late 1940's as they filmed. But it wasn't easy as the recorders of that day were large, heavy, and ran only from 110 volt ac power. Most of the authentic PRR audio was recorded by John.
it is a 4-4-6-4 wish it was preserved the giant would have been great
I'd be surprised if any of the sound is from these films
Excellent video. ♡ T.E.N.
1:14
J1: Don’t you say it, don’t you say it-
T1: On your left.
J1: C’MON!
Good reference! 😁😆
It fits quite well!
Heck, history will repeat onto 1361
Nice addition of AC/DC Back in Black at the End. :)
1:46 *-kids,that is an aerotrain.-*
god, that back end of it is ugly tho
@@mosaic6225 how?
@@infaredxkingz8786 it looks like they welded on the back of a bel air
AT 2.25 - for anyone that would know, coming out of the portal of the tunnel, a track is running off to the right [left on the screen] - would this be the former Muleshoe line?
I was hoping I'd see the S1 in this. Oh well.
What I wish is that there was a video of the s1 6100 and s2 6200 double heading. Sadly that would probably be a recipe for disaster
BRING THE T1 BACK!!!!!!
They are
@@grobterm ??
@@grobterm
Then how do you explain the restoration of steam locomotives like UP Challenger 3985, UP 844, and the soon-to-be completed Big Boy? If the pollution claim was to be true, steam locomotive restoration wouldn't be allowed.
@@grobterm
And for your information, a non profit organization is building a completely new PRR T1 from scratch.
@@grobterm
Fuckin coward, lol
I didn’t know there was a 4th track at Horseshoe Curve.
All steam engines that you see in this video
Prr class k-4
Prr class Q-2
Prr class T-1
Don’t forget the J-1 at 1:15 and the L-1 leading the triple-header at 1:22
I have always had a fear of when the trains lean into the curve. I always thought they would derail if they leaned to much but it has never happened but if it has, I haven't heard of it.
As long as they're going fast enough, inertia pushes them down onto the rails. Theoretically, they're pulling slightly more than 1 g through a bend like that.
They have to lean or the momentum would throw them off the track. It’s all by design. Same reason NASCAR tracks have banked turns
@@gearandalthefirst7027 minor derailment on horseshoe curve in 1991 with a conrail train, I'm not sure it was from cars rocking or leaning though
1:10 engine is taller than tall tender
are there any videos of the REAL PRR Turbine steam engine?
The Almighty, T1
Would be nice to see some of the detail without a ginormous logo across the entire screen where most of the detail is.
Great job.
There is a double header assisting a T1. Nice
Whoa! What engine is that at 1:08?!
The Pennsylvania Railroad Q2 class 4-4-6-4 Duplex. A locomotive that broke the world record for the highest strength/pulling power output for a non-articulated steam locomotive. (Nearly 8,000 horsepower). Many argue of all the Duplexes ever built, the Q2 was the greatest of them all. Me, it's a tie between the T1 & Q2.
T1 ftw, Q2 is a tryhard not-actually streamliner. Oh well, can't argue with hp.
Try hard? No one said it was a streamliner?
It was semi-streamlined I think
@@pepsidoggo1598 that was PRR Q1
That is so Awesome!
whats the locomotive at 1:05?
PRR Q2
thanks.
Ok, that last shot is throwing me for a loop... is that coming west out of the new portage tunnel, or was there a signal bridge at the east end of it?
I love it
1:05 A new Q2 should be built after the T1 which I think will be done a bit earlier than 2030
What train was that at 1:42?
The aero train I think.
I like to call it the Asian train due to its awful Japanese look. No offense I just don't like Japanese engine design
+Dr. Jak G. Cogsworth lol how racist
+vector6977 It was the Aerotrain. A diesel made by GM and had very limited success on the Pennsy. Only 2 were ever made and they ended service (I believe) on the Rock Island RR.
Thedeoradude i love your profile pic lol
I'm curious as to where you guys got all the sound recordings from?
Had it on 2x the whole video by accident : )
1:47 the Aroetrain!
you mean Aerotrain?
@@anhkietduongdo yes i did
@@cadespencer6320 took you long enough
0:35 prr 1361 whistle
that was a turbo train
+Ralph Robinson The GM Areotrain.
The Mighty Pennsylvania Railroad.
what year did this get filmed
40's and 50's
A year
1:05
I would do anything to go back to the better days.
Gezz prr be makeing there tenders large as crap
Great video. Except for the white website across the scree bottom.
Is it just me or did steam engines look like they deserved to run freight trains and not be scrapped for diesel
Diesel will kill our planet
Stacey Epperson everything we do will kill our planet
Compared to other fuels, diesel is the worst thing you can breathe. I ride a bicycle alot, and try to watch and position myself upwind or hold breath.
@@kittymuffins6484
Gasoline is more pollutant and more noxious than diesel.
Diesels are stronger, but steam engines look soooo much better and the sounds have character to them. Wish the diesels didn't wipe out so many steam locomotive classes.
1:27 1:29 1:31
We Shall pass
Amtrak: oh no you don't 😠😠😠
T1 and PRR 2-8-2 and PRR k4
@@mikediesel928 the 2-8-2 is an L-1
She'll be back in black in 2030
*He'll
@infaredxkingz8786 how do you know
ghee---thats swell!
RDG T-1's 4-8-4's were much better, after all, the PRR had to lease some
those t1s were the most ugly engines the prr had and the crews hated them as they would always slip, no wonder prr did not save 1 of them.
Why are you here? You shouldn't have clicked on this video. Get tf out, Penn central foamer
1:13