Mythology Expert Reviews Greek & Roman Mythology in Movies (Part 1) | Vanity Fair

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  • @keirarcher4091
    @keirarcher4091 2 роки тому +11198

    “Great bisexual army” 😭 never thought I’d hear that statement ever

    • @hannibalb8276
      @hannibalb8276 2 роки тому +187

      @Seanus Patricus Why do you think it's untrue

    • @CrisSelene
      @CrisSelene 2 роки тому +693

      @Seanus Patricus check this guy out, he thinks he is more informed than an actual professor of classics. Anonimity on the Internet really is a heady drug, huh?

    • @aesir1ases64
      @aesir1ases64 2 роки тому +73

      "serious scholar" .....

    • @marcosduran4169
      @marcosduran4169 2 роки тому +185

      Then you never heard of Thebes sacred band which was made of 150 male couples

    • @lordseaworth6055
      @lordseaworth6055 2 роки тому +83

      @Seanus Patricus Any sources? If you claim something please provide evidence

  • @acaciaramey1215
    @acaciaramey1215 2 роки тому +3792

    Hades is so misunderstood - only Greek god who ever did his job; didn't impregnate a bunch of chicks, was in fact faithful to his wife that he loved (that the other gods had to shift the cosmos to make that romance happen), and actually ferried souls, etc. He's really not a bad dude.

    • @that_heretic
      @that_heretic 2 роки тому +185

      Same with the Devil in the Bible. Lucifer isn't the bad guy of that story...only the antagonist. Those aren't the same things.

    • @kittimcconnell2633
      @kittimcconnell2633 2 роки тому +270

      Not quite faithful, he did have an affair with Menthe. But very misunderstood nowadays; he was not evil. And he didn't trick Persephone; every woman of that culture knew that a man offering her a pomegranate was a marriage proposal, like now if a man were to kneel and hold up a ring.

    • @acaciaramey1215
      @acaciaramey1215 2 роки тому +13

      @@that_heretic Very well said.

    • @bigmonkey1254
      @bigmonkey1254 2 роки тому +1

      @@that_heretic Uh, Satan attacked God (a very dumb plan to those who know the being) out of jealousy over not being the best thing to exist. When he failed, immediately began to attack God's favorite creation out of spite, twisting the being into the most self-destructive animal imaginable. Satan is a villain. He does everything we imagine of villains and worse.
      It's best to not associate Hades and Satan at all. Hades is effectively an immortal human who tends to dead souls. Satan is a spiteful, violent being dedicated to deception and corruption in all forms.

    • @BettyMareeHOHCountry
      @BettyMareeHOHCountry 2 роки тому +46

      Hades and Madusa is misunderstood.

  • @Blokewood3
    @Blokewood3 2 роки тому +1204

    In Wonder Woman, the enmity between the Amazons and Ares is somewhat ironic, because in mythology Ares seems to have been a major patron of the Amazons. The Amazon queens Hippolyta and Penthesileia were daughters of Ares.

    • @merry_christmas
      @merry_christmas 2 роки тому +89

      Wish they'd explored that in the second movie, rather than ruining the impact and strength of the first.

    • @khartog01
      @khartog01 2 роки тому +22

      I just want an explanation on how he killed all the gods. how did he kill Heracles or Athena?

    • @anneliesgemma
      @anneliesgemma 2 роки тому +16

      Yeah, whenever I watch WW I always get bothered by that.

    • @alm2187
      @alm2187 2 роки тому +1

      We may prove a trend of Black Panther and Wonder Woman writers ripping each other off. How far back does that date?

    • @Blokewood3
      @Blokewood3 2 роки тому +15

      @@alm2187 What does Black Panther have to do with any of this? I'm not even sure why the expert talked about it. It has nothing to do with Greek Mythology, and in the film, Wakanda is clearly in central Africa, nowhere close to the Mediterranean.

  • @wes9809
    @wes9809 7 місяців тому +2700

    The fact this has 62k likes shows he fooled 62k people (or bots).
    I'm only here thanks to Metatron pointing out all his lies w/ actual sources.

    • @joemadden4160
      @joemadden4160 7 місяців тому +119

      Myself as well.

    • @airconditionedrelco7099
      @airconditionedrelco7099 7 місяців тому +157

      kinda sad people listen to these frauds and believe what they are saying without looking into it

    • @Greenham6603
      @Greenham6603 7 місяців тому +42

      Me too

    • @RyanG0899
      @RyanG0899 7 місяців тому +1

      Same here. Glad this clown is being called out on lying about history.

    • @kostaspassias3815
      @kostaspassias3815 7 місяців тому

      It's easy to fool people when they want to be fooled. Videos like this play to people's confirmation bias. They want to believe that their ideas actually existed all along so that that they feel vindicated in their insane worldview.

  • @musicophrenia
    @musicophrenia 7 місяців тому +284

    Shield called "hoplite"....yes professor

  • @eggymayo3271
    @eggymayo3271 7 місяців тому +1993

    The absolute reach they made this guy do to get black panther in here 😂😂

    • @MW_Asura
      @MW_Asura 7 місяців тому +189

      The f*ck does Wakanda have to do with Greek and Roman mythology 😂😂He made a huge reach to try and link those together

    • @LeftJoystick
      @LeftJoystick 7 місяців тому +154

      Ah Wakanda, the story written in the…checks notes…1960s by two Jewish Men…
      Hmm.

    • @imaginalex5850
      @imaginalex5850 7 місяців тому +23

      Lets remake history by reading Fairy tales.

    • @mekingtiger9095
      @mekingtiger9095 6 місяців тому +20

      The world post 2016 has been an utter disaster.

    • @acktuwally
      @acktuwally 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@mekingtiger9095 I would go even further and say post 2008. Middle name Hussein.

  • @AD-df5tm
    @AD-df5tm Рік тому +1704

    It's funny how Sparta has become this idealized place in modern times because it fully would have suuuuuuucked to live there haha. I remember in one of my college classes on ancient Greece some classmate asked if there is a modern equivalent of Sparta and the professor spent the next 10 min or so breaking down how, yes, there is a modern equivalent and it's called North Korea. lol

    • @vanyadolly
      @vanyadolly Рік тому +238

      It's the same thing with Vikings. One of the most tolerant societies with extensive freedoms and rights of women is now idealized as some kind of ultra-matcho utopia.

    • @connorconnor7536
      @connorconnor7536 Рік тому +125

      Actually the spartan women had more rights than the athenian democratic women, and they were more respected

    • @thetruerift
      @thetruerift Рік тому +84

      Never forget all the slaves that actually made Sparta function.

    • @blkcasper392OG
      @blkcasper392OG Рік тому +2

      😂😂😂

    • @shykorustotora
      @shykorustotora Рік тому +88

      The funniest thing is that 9/10 people who think "Yeah, I would have been a badass Spartan!" probably would have died during the Agoge and never made it to adulthood :P

  • @Jompabompa
    @Jompabompa 7 місяців тому +2934

    Its sad that people actually believe what this guy is saying, he is lying and he knows it.

    • @kueapel911
      @kueapel911 7 місяців тому +176

      "Oh finally, I got into the spotlight with a position of authority. Quick, what must I do? Lie for my causes ofc."

    • @cody0126a
      @cody0126a 7 місяців тому

      He’s an absolute moron and an ideologue.

    • @tctyt
      @tctyt 7 місяців тому +1

      Blatant Historical Revisionism, endorsed by the state and it's woke ideologues.

    • @gigasipke
      @gigasipke 7 місяців тому +123

      Yep he's an absolute joke, check out metatron for the corrections.

    • @javiernavarro8936
      @javiernavarro8936 7 місяців тому +22

      hes paid for that

  • @renwigley9721
    @renwigley9721 2 роки тому +2369

    Would love to hear his thoughts on "Troy" the movie, and how that fits in with other interpretations of Achillies and Petrocles

    • @MoxHex
      @MoxHex 2 роки тому +208

      I hear they were roommates.

    • @Gemstones1000
      @Gemstones1000 2 роки тому +122

      @@MoxHex they. Were. *_Roomates_* .

    • @jasonofathens2254
      @jasonofathens2254 2 роки тому +28

      Patroclus

    • @KS-xk2so
      @KS-xk2so 2 роки тому +43

      I'm pretty sure the original texts were actually unclear on their relationship. Later telling's had them as lovers, and then not again, based on what was the social norm at the time.

    • @platosfriend
      @platosfriend 2 роки тому +97

      @@KS-xk2so Yes, the original Odyssey never explicitly describes them as lovers, but it does describe them as extremely close. It’s not a stretch to imagine they were lovers, was quite common and accepted in Ancient Greece.

  • @henryskalitz9094
    @henryskalitz9094 7 місяців тому +1933

    Many of the things he said are wrong and have been debunked. He also let his politics come through instead of just being neutral about the history.

    • @Blue-Lights
      @Blue-Lights 6 місяців тому +28

      This is MYTH - ology?

    • @Valehass
      @Valehass 6 місяців тому +49

      His politics was front and foremost, probably why he's employed in the US education system.

    • @hannibalb8276
      @hannibalb8276 5 місяців тому

      @@Valehass you people are beyond stupid

    • @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect
      @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect 5 місяців тому

      just because a white person says "this is not true" does not mean that it has been debunked

    • @beetheking_7
      @beetheking_7 5 місяців тому +23

      Explain what was wrong lol

  • @chrisjarvis2287
    @chrisjarvis2287 7 місяців тому +1103

    Just watched Metatron over on his channel call this guy out on all the lies in this video. it was amazing.

    • @lorddiethorn
      @lorddiethorn 7 місяців тому +26

      Same

    • @Honestly_take_the_hint
      @Honestly_take_the_hint 7 місяців тому +16

      Likewise

    • @E_Proxy
      @E_Proxy 7 місяців тому +8

      Idem

    • @Hawk999
      @Hawk999 7 місяців тому +6

      Yup!

    • @alessiosem2238
      @alessiosem2238 7 місяців тому +1

      Me too, i was unaware of this new yorker dem spreading lies over roman and greek history to bend it on spreading his political agenda.

  • @petrilofberg1758
    @petrilofberg1758 7 місяців тому +130

    What does black panther have To do with greek and roman mythology?

    • @MoneyB-r2y
      @MoneyB-r2y 5 місяців тому +9

      Listen. ....then learn

    • @samuelpereira3856
      @samuelpereira3856 5 місяців тому

      @@MoneyB-r2ylisten to this video and you will become 10x dumber 😂

    • @panayiotisladas161
      @panayiotisladas161 3 місяці тому

      ​@@MoneyB-r2yit has squat to do with it.

    • @gampie13
      @gampie13 3 місяці тому

      @@MoneyB-r2y aka blindly trust a liar

    • @jamesj.mccombie5031
      @jamesj.mccombie5031 2 місяці тому +24

      @@MoneyB-r2y listened, still none the wiser, but I didn’t do the amount of reaching you and the “prof” did.

  • @timelesswisdom.
    @timelesswisdom. 2 роки тому +105

    The snake on a stick is the rod of Asclepius a god of medicine

  • @apokos8871
    @apokos8871 2 роки тому +256

    the shield is called a Hoplon, not a Hoplite. Hoplite means "soldier that carries a Hoplon"

    • @NefariousKoel
      @NefariousKoel 2 роки тому +109

      I can't take this guy too seriously after some of his takes in this video.

    • @djehuti3
      @djehuti3 2 роки тому +29

      the shield is called an aspis. Hoplon means gear in a general sense.

    • @apokos8871
      @apokos8871 2 роки тому +57

      @@djehuti3 aspis and hoplon are used interchangeably to mean shield

    • @Shippo28
      @Shippo28 2 роки тому +3

      @Seanus Patricus right!

    • @marxwasright25
      @marxwasright25 2 роки тому

      @Seanus Patricus why

  • @jakubjary9052
    @jakubjary9052 7 місяців тому +70

    Orwell: if you control the past, you control present time

  • @MalikIshtarSama
    @MalikIshtarSama 7 місяців тому +1705

    oh Metatron destroyed this guy

    • @killgoretrout9000
      @killgoretrout9000 7 місяців тому +2

      it's easy for an internet grifter like him when the tenured and published Professor has no chance to respond.

    • @eagle162
      @eagle162 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@killgoretrout9000not even a big fan of his but he has no chance to respond because he is an idiot.

    • @corneliusdobeneck4081
      @corneliusdobeneck4081 7 місяців тому +35

      Pretty much ... and he doesn't even point out everything wrong ... wait, that should be a video: "Everythng wrong with the Vanity Video". Count should be pretty high.

    • @jonv8177
      @jonv8177 7 місяців тому +57

      ​@@killgoretrout9000
      You do know Metatron is a published historian, & a teacher as well? He also happens to be a person of Roman decent.

    • @SnakeOmni
      @SnakeOmni 7 місяців тому +4

      cope

  • @catherinethorstenberg8957
    @catherinethorstenberg8957 7 місяців тому +477

    “Spartan soldiers were very much into each other”
    An excellent choice of words

    • @LeRoiEnJaune
      @LeRoiEnJaune 7 місяців тому +44

      Yessss, but also noooo. It's worth it for the joke, but it's important to remember that Spartans weren't bisexual as a matter of open-mindedness, but because they were catamites brought up in a society that expected the older to victimize the younger.

    • @wes9809
      @wes9809 7 місяців тому +76

      Metatron breaks this down. Don't fall for the lies.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 7 місяців тому +15

      @@LeRoiEnJaune Yes but it isn't as wide spread as this dude is trying to pretend it is. This "professor" is trying to rewrite history and pretend that his feelings are facts instead of just stuff he made up and feels strongly about them being true with no evidence.

    • @ceejay1476
      @ceejay1476 7 місяців тому +4

      @@LeRoiEnJaune Current day traditions in afghanistan where they grape little boys come to mind.

    •  7 місяців тому +3

      “Homosexual projection”
      Better choice of words.

  • @25taylor91
    @25taylor91 8 місяців тому +555

    This fantasy movie based on a comic book is not accurate. Omg no way 😂

    • @lorddiethorn
      @lorddiethorn 7 місяців тому +12

      Yeah what an waste not to mention there were of an ton of other issues

    • @him050
      @him050 7 місяців тому +9

      It’s also not mythology - it happened 😂

    • @mikepjersey
      @mikepjersey 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@him050 well sure some of people were based on real people and the battle happened but the aesthetic and storyline are based on the graphic novel. Pretty obvious they took liberties.

  • @conm87
    @conm87 7 місяців тому +55

    The shield is an ‘aspis’ or a ‘hoplon’ - a hoplite is the name of the armoured soldier

  • @Ostsol
    @Ostsol 7 місяців тому +699

    Greek and Roman mythology. Black Panther. What?

    • @raukoring
      @raukoring 7 місяців тому +117

      Political activism

    • @randomname9502
      @randomname9502 7 місяців тому +43

      @@raukoring specifically post-modern / post-marxist mental derangement.

    • @alphagerudo
      @alphagerudo 7 місяців тому

      Dude married a black woman 😅😅 Desiree Sanchez

    • @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect
      @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect 5 місяців тому +18

      @@raukoring the greeks themselves said they based their gods on african gods... there are parallels between greek gods and african gods and the african gods predate the greek ones.... cope harder lil bro

    • @ChiquitaSpeaks
      @ChiquitaSpeaks 5 місяців тому +11

      ⁠ @@TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect
      lol look how even mentioning Africas presence in a reasonable way in the Mediterranean gets tons of them riled as such (the amount of likes), notice how they didn’t make any mention of the Brother Where Art Thou (wayy more disconnected in America) movie…what raving insecurity

  • @ZOB4
    @ZOB4 2 роки тому +240

    There is no way the Coen brothers created O Brother, Where Art Thou? while being completely unaware of The Odyssey - I don't believe that for a second.

    • @KeyDash753
      @KeyDash753 2 роки тому +67

      Homer even has a writing credit on the film. Even if the Coen Brothers claim it was independent, their lawyers disagreed. I could buy some elements being coincidence, but others (like John Goodman having an eye patch) are pretty hard to brush off.

    • @mustardsfire22
      @mustardsfire22 2 роки тому +46

      I think they were aware of it, they just hadn't read it. They were going off the knowledge they had accumulated through the zeitgeist. I've heard Tim Blake Nelson talk about how it was on set with him being the only person who'd actually read it and he thought it was interesting.

    • @cyn5422
      @cyn5422 2 роки тому +20

      They weren't unaware of it.
      They said they were aware of it, as much as anyone is, through pop culture, but hadn't actually read the book.

    • @apg13997
      @apg13997 2 роки тому +14

      @@KeyDash753 Wait, why was there a need of lawyers being involved in this? Homer's works are very firmly in the public domain.

    • @KeyDash753
      @KeyDash753 2 роки тому +1

      @@apg13997 True, I often forget about the public domain thing. Still, even if there's no need to pay royalties or anything like that, they'd still want to give credit when it's an adaption and not original.

  • @mattisairanen9566
    @mattisairanen9566 2 роки тому +964

    I think a point in 300 that’s often missed, that explains as lot of the historical inaccuracies, is that the whole story is in fact a retelling of the events of the story by the guy who lost his eye and was sent off to tell their tale, so the unreliable narrator is kind of built into the story.

    • @Charlzton
      @Charlzton 2 роки тому +94

      And he only saw half of it ;)

    • @TheSquad4life
      @TheSquad4life 2 роки тому +134

      well the movie itself is based a comic strip/ graphic novel not entirely on the actual retelling

    • @ezjean.1280
      @ezjean.1280 2 роки тому +59

      Thank you, lots of people kind of forget that and that's actually what make the movie so great.

    • @atomiccritter6492
      @atomiccritter6492 2 роки тому +50

      @@ezjean.1280 its a terrible movie because of those inaccuracies and full on bs

    • @atomiccritter6492
      @atomiccritter6492 2 роки тому +32

      in short its a copout and bs

  • @Constantine-316
    @Constantine-316 7 місяців тому +2835

    An activist pretending to be a professor

    • @valuedCustomer2929
      @valuedCustomer2929 7 місяців тому +125

      Modern academia

    • @larymcfart4034
      @larymcfart4034 7 місяців тому +46

      ​@@valuedCustomer2929 Critical pedagogy is making every degree look more and more useless. To think that STEM is being parasatized by this nonsense is astonishing to me...

    • @Gabeconstantinemusic
      @Gabeconstantinemusic 7 місяців тому

      He’s also an ignoramus pretending to be an expert. And an outright liar. What a great service to mankind, re-writing history to suit your own personal beliefs.

    • @guitarjym
      @guitarjym 7 місяців тому +15

      Well said.

    • @chrisrenthlei821
      @chrisrenthlei821 7 місяців тому +34

      For real, just a lib fanatic

  • @elusiveDEVIANT
    @elusiveDEVIANT 7 місяців тому +938

    Freak literally went on about racism. These people cannot help themselves.

    • @heldermonteiro2718
      @heldermonteiro2718 7 місяців тому +131

      Everything this guy said is completely nonsense

    • @peterfyal4998
      @peterfyal4998 7 місяців тому +19

      The guy has a lot of problems

    • @destinjones6624
      @destinjones6624 7 місяців тому +15

      Ah. We got the fanboys raiding the comments

    • @peterfyal4998
      @peterfyal4998 6 місяців тому +9

      @@destinjones6624 I don't think this guy has any fan boys tbh

    • @ShawsOwn
      @ShawsOwn 6 місяців тому +16

      ​@@destinjones6624What an incredibly intelligent way to counter all of the comments, points, & debunking in the comments.
      "Because you disagree, you're a fan boy. Despite making your own points. Meanwhile, I am not. Despite not making any points myself."

  • @myman5472
    @myman5472 2 роки тому +583

    Regarding 300, I always thought persians were described in that fashion because Dilios is telling the story. He has embelished the story to boost the moral of the troops that are about to fight in the battle of Plataea.

    • @MsKym4
      @MsKym4 2 роки тому +20

      What a great analysis!

    • @myman5472
      @myman5472 2 роки тому +69

      @@MsKym4 Yeah I mean, the story isn't meant to be taken as a historical account of the facts but as an embelished account of them within the story, as propaganda. The sequel tones down quite a bit the exageration of the persians becase now, even though the main focus of the story is portraying the greeks as heroes and follows the story of Themistocles we are shown Xerxes story prior transformation and we can empathize with him and his struggle a bit more, the same goes for Artemisia's story.

    • @christopherjohnson6524
      @christopherjohnson6524 2 роки тому +38

      300 is based on Frank Miller's graphic novel

    • @stefanburns3797
      @stefanburns3797 2 роки тому

      He’s a college professor. If he doesn’t say something is racist he doesn’t get tenure

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL 2 роки тому +2

      @@myman5472 hes right about the persians they were african ,asian, and arabic looking

  • @cstgraphpads2091
    @cstgraphpads2091 7 місяців тому +292

    Go figure a professor of mythology would make some myths of his own.

    • @wavewatcher_
      @wavewatcher_ 6 місяців тому +4

      Underrated comment 👆

  • @Darek_B52
    @Darek_B52 7 місяців тому +340

    What an insult to all those who enjoy history & learning it. Pathetic.

  • @Kagarin05
    @Kagarin05 8 місяців тому +125

    5:35 I actually feel this is just his pandering opinion. There's no way Spartan society would look at physical disabilities with anything but disdain given everything we know about them . . Wonder if there'll be other woke topics for the rest of the video and we're only 5 1/2 minutes in

    • @Pyrowaffle
      @Pyrowaffle 2 місяці тому +1

      I'd love to see your diploma sir ❤️

    • @MrCytree
      @MrCytree 2 місяці тому +5

      @@Pyrowaffle what does a diploma have to do with anything? Are you using an appeal to authority fallacy? The guy in this video was demonstrably and hilariously wrong multiple times and he has a diploma.

  • @andyoc
    @andyoc 7 місяців тому +360

    Metatron has cleaned this chap's clock. He's waffling

    • @destinjones6624
      @destinjones6624 7 місяців тому +11

      Kid, get off the internet and focus on school

    • @markus_r_realiest
      @markus_r_realiest 6 місяців тому +13

      ​@@destinjones6624maybe you should go back to school

    • @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect
      @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect 5 місяців тому

      @@markus_r_realiest The reason you fools DONT think egypt was black is because History and scripture are both very adamant on the biblical jews and the Egyptians looking so similar that you really couldnt tell them apart… so if you think egyptians were black then you would be questioning things that the most powerful wealthy people on earth dont want you to question… thats the facts

    • @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect
      @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect 5 місяців тому

      @@markus_r_realiestmetatron did not pull 1 single primary source of the description of the Egyptians (assuming you know what a primary source is) and metatron did not even DARE to mention the 1974 UNESCO debate in cairo proving without a doubt that egypt is a black african society… none of the people advocating the psuedo BS you have believed all this time even had a quality response for Cheikh Anta Diop until after he was dead… they were afraid to argue with him publicly when he was alive 😂😂 yall are generational conniving cowards

    • @spuriouslathos2518
      @spuriouslathos2518 5 місяців тому +8

      ​@@markus_r_realiestthis guy is a professor. You're referencing a UA-cam historian. Get a life

  • @GreatGhastly_
    @GreatGhastly_ 2 роки тому +49

    I don't wanna correct the expert so I won't, but the creation myth the Greeks held ( as I was told it) was that Zeus and Prometheus created Man together and afterwards Prometheus, loving his creation so much gave fire to mankind which angered Zeus, which in turn led to Prometheus being chained to a mountain and having his liver eaten every day. So Idk, maybe the professor has a different version that he studies/teaches.

    • @praisethesunn6541
      @praisethesunn6541 2 роки тому +38

      This is exactly the comment I was looking for. I mean… he’s the expert but as far as I’m concerned that’s the gist of it. Zeus was bored so decided to create beings which he could lord over, so asked Prometheus to bake them out of clay and so on. It’s a great story as it is but it deprives the professor of an opportunity to make a trite comment on gender politics. Again, I might be wrong on that one but his constant interpretation of details through the lens of a tiktok cringe compilation drove me a little mental.

    • @EdwardLindon
      @EdwardLindon 2 роки тому +1

      Nice apophasis. But the expert is correct: none of the many extant Ancient Greek sources have Zeus creating humans.

    • @EdwardLindon
      @EdwardLindon 2 роки тому

      @@praisethesunn6541 You certainly were looking for it. But you're not "mental", just a bit gammony.

    • @ryangriggs5288
      @ryangriggs5288 2 роки тому +2

      Also I thought Zeus told Hephaestus to create Pandora for Epimetheus to fall in love with her. Pandora was made to be curious so opened up Pandora’s box to release evil on mankind or something like that. Don’t think the expert was correct on this (I just love this specific story I am no where near an expert on Greek mythology).

    • @normalhuman9878
      @normalhuman9878 2 роки тому +4

      There are many versions of these myths and none of them are truly “correct” because myths change over time, especially ones that were spread as part of a religion

  • @moenibus
    @moenibus 7 місяців тому +574

    Dear lord, how is this person allowed to spread such ignorance and misinformation? falsehods, slander, nonsense.

    • @johanmetreus1268
      @johanmetreus1268 7 місяців тому +10

      Freedom of speech, which allows even utter idiots to be heard. Fortunately, it also allows them to be called out as such.

    • @mooncat7009
      @mooncat7009 Місяць тому

      @@johanmetreus1268it doesn’t though these days… you cannot criticize anyone when it comes to africa….

  • @Shadowkey392
    @Shadowkey392 7 місяців тому +180

    How gullible were you Vanity Fair people?

    • @ettinakitten5047
      @ettinakitten5047 7 місяців тому +10

      Less gullible than the Metatron fanboys, clearly.

    • @christerjakobsen8107
      @christerjakobsen8107 7 місяців тому +65

      @@ettinakitten5047 Metatron brought receipts, did you?

    • @GarrettCates
      @GarrettCates 7 місяців тому +18

      @@christerjakobsen8107no, of course they didn’t, they never do. They want to swallow everything the prof says without citing anything…

    • @GarrettCates
      @GarrettCates 7 місяців тому +25

      @@christerjakobsen8107but he hit all the buzzwords! Racism, white supremacy, etc!

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 7 місяців тому +5

      Too bad racism was not invented in anciet Greek but 18th century USA.

  • @daemonthorn5888
    @daemonthorn5888 2 роки тому +47

    7:25 The symbol of the staff with a snake wrapped around it is not used in medicine because it is a symbol of death. It is used as the symbol of medicine because it is the ,"Rod of Asclepius", who was a God of healing.

    • @jaxbeck9550
      @jaxbeck9550 2 роки тому +12

      I think the idea is he’s elaborating on the origin of the symbol. After all what did we make medicine for other than to fight death?

    • @fuxxx21
      @fuxxx21 2 роки тому +17

      That is a stretch. He got a fair few things wrong in this video as would any other woke professor. He also denied the Greeks had any creation myths. Actually they had many, the earliest stating that Zeus engineered man.

    • @nenecitosart1405
      @nenecitosart1405 2 роки тому +3

      @@fuxxx21 yeah as soon as he used black panther a fictional character not associated with greek mytology and 300 showing Persians a certain way as being racist I was out. This guy is definitely a woke liberal hack.

    • @DannySB991
      @DannySB991 2 роки тому +3

      @@nenecitosart1405 You really did miss that point didn't you. Go outside and touch grass, you'll be happier.

    • @fuxxx21
      @fuxxx21 2 роки тому +1

      @@cedar4539 Having to get in a section in on Africa, on a Greek/Roman topic... because you know.. Floyd. His link back to Greek mythology and the lion of Heracles was completely unrelated. Talks as well about black slavery, colonization of Africa and a warped Western view of what Africa is... etc etc.. Its desperate stuff. Of course there is more, but if you are leftist, its better not to torture yourself and just pretend this video was normal..

  • @JRec-ql5fc
    @JRec-ql5fc 2 роки тому +84

    To be fair, 300 is based on a graphic novel, which is obviously a very stylistic type of comic. Alas it’s based in history but it partially explains why certain liberties were taken in regards to the supernatural elements.

    • @ciaranjones9449
      @ciaranjones9449 2 роки тому +19

      @amirali khatame I always thought the point of 300 was telling the story of the battle through the eyes of an ancient Greek. During the Persian wars, they were extremely xenophobic towards the Persians, and so 300 portrays them as alien and effeminate - the way ancient Greeks during the Persian wars saw them.
      It also portrays the Persian army as huge and the Greek army as very small, which is meant to show the great discipline and martial prowess that ancient Greeks thought they had.
      I think 300 is an interesting take on historiography in movies. It's essentially an extremely nationalistic film like Pearl Harbour or The Patriot, but the audience is meant to be ancient Greek people instead of modern Americans, none of whom are alive today.

    • @SkullAngel002
      @SkullAngel002 2 роки тому +37

      @J. Rec Exactly. I don't understand why this professor is getting bent out of shape. Sounds like he wasn't told this movie was based on a graphic novel, which itself is all about visual drama to sell box office tickets, nor does director Zack Snyder claim this movie to be complete or partially historically accurate. Otherwise, the professor should just watch a History Channel/PBS/Nat Geo documentary about Sparta with accurate dramatic reenactments.
      He also contradicts himself at 24:55 by talking about the "Fidelity Discourse", basically saying he doesn't subscribe to the idea that a story has to be told accurately to the myth (or original story) and that changes are welcome because it comes down to the performance and audience reception (you know, like how Zack Snyder's 300 was told and many people liking it).

    • @JRec-ql5fc
      @JRec-ql5fc 2 роки тому +3

      @@SkullAngel002 well said.

    • @JRec-ql5fc
      @JRec-ql5fc 2 роки тому +3

      @@ciaranjones9449 interesting!

    • @atomiccritter6492
      @atomiccritter6492 2 роки тому +6

      @@SkullAngel002 Just because someone doesnt claim historical accuracy IF a film is made about an historical event it SHOULD be historically accurate unless you CLEARLY state otherwise. 300 was bs

  • @WritingInEnglish100
    @WritingInEnglish100 2 роки тому +662

    It was really interesting including the Marvel movie angle. I had thought everything about the Marvel myths was made up. It was great seeing how there was some tradition to those stories.

    • @potatogaming7044
      @potatogaming7044 2 роки тому +39

      You thought that Thor was made up, by marvel?

    • @Salted_Fysh
      @Salted_Fysh 2 роки тому +30

      @@potatogaming7044 the way he and the rest of the Pantheon are depicted? Yeah, that's mostly pure fiction and has little to do with what little we know of nordic mythology.

    • @WritingInEnglish100
      @WritingInEnglish100 2 роки тому +5

      @@potatogaming7044 I thought the Themyscira legends were made up, I did know about Thor.

    • @KS-xk2so
      @KS-xk2so 2 роки тому +16

      What's interesting is the conversation around how comic books and the idea of heroes/villains with super powers, have kind of become the modern version of mythology, without the religious overtones.

    • @Salted_Fysh
      @Salted_Fysh 2 роки тому +13

      @@KS-xk2so well, mythology itself is not inherently tied to religion.
      A mythos is a tale or story that is passed along through several iterations of retelling. Historically that would be word of mouth but there are also modern Mythos in the age of print. Slenderman or Cthulhu for example are two examples of modern Mythos.
      A Mythos can and usually does contain lessons of a cultural, societal or religious nature but that is not entirely necessary.
      So yes, comic books are a form of Mythos creation but they aren't the only one in modern times.
      Sidedig: Captain America for example is the Mythos of US American (moral) superiority by way of utilizing a literal Übermensch representing supposed patriotic values.

  • @wolvves4293
    @wolvves4293 8 місяців тому +50

    300 was based on the graphic novel, not history. And the reason why the Persians are depicted the way they are is because the narrator in the film is a Spartan that returned to Sparta to tell the rest of Greece what had happened to gather support. He demonized them so that they would appear evil and non-human.

    • @TrixieMatteI
      @TrixieMatteI 7 місяців тому +2

      Nothing he said goes against that though. He's simply stating that Persians were misportrayed, and they were.

    • @bewawolf19
      @bewawolf19 7 місяців тому +30

      @@TrixieMatteI No, he calls it racist and problematic depiction when it isn't racist in the slightest. The same professor also in the same video makes the exceptionally bigoted assertion that if your race doesn't match the culture you are knowledgeable on, you can't teach people so I don't see why we should stretch his claim and assume he wasn't acting in bad faith as it clearly is.

    • @lorddiethorn
      @lorddiethorn 7 місяців тому

      @@TrixieMatteIlol you clearly are an foolish. He should know this and tell you but you defend the immoral person because you are sheep

  • @enderz1341
    @enderz1341 2 роки тому +19

    "The Cohen Brothers never read the Oddessy." yet, in the credits, they credit The Oddessy......

  • @metallicoctopus2037
    @metallicoctopus2037 7 місяців тому +305

    Does this guy actually like the people he studies? He seems VERY anti-Greek and anti-European. Almost like its politically charged or something. Like, why on Earth is he talking about Jan 6th in the middle of a video on Greek and Roman mythology? The same question can be asked of why they included Black Panther in this video, its neither Greek, Roman, Mediterranean or actual mythology. Its almost like they needed a movie that didn't include people that look European.

    • @eggymayo3271
      @eggymayo3271 7 місяців тому +48

      Exactly

    • @Alaplaya9
      @Alaplaya9 7 місяців тому +3

      1: I don't think he selected the material he was asked to talk about and 2: Can you explain how he is "anti-Greek" or "anti-European"?

    • @frankvandorp2059
      @frankvandorp2059 7 місяців тому +76

      @@Alaplaya9 You seriously think he talked about January 6th because the interviewers asked him to? And even if so, his statement connecting J6 with Sparta was an embarrassing reach that would reflect poorly on any academic, so why didn't he refuse?

    • @playedit0ut290
      @playedit0ut290 7 місяців тому +36

      Short answer, wokeness.

    • @ManiacMayhem7256
      @ManiacMayhem7256 7 місяців тому +10

      ​@@playedit0ut290
      Longer answer, Antonio Gramsci and Herbert Marcuse

  • @MEDVE1978
    @MEDVE1978 7 місяців тому +350

    Wow, this guy would argue even the vikings were Africans. This is like a parody.

    • @TT09B5
      @TT09B5 7 місяців тому +6

      @steiner554 Its complete revisionist which is fascist.

    • @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect
      @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect 5 місяців тому

      The reason you fools DONT think egypt was black is because History and scripture are both very adamant on the biblical jews and the Egyptians looking so similar that you really couldnt tell them apart… so if you think egyptians were black then you would be questioning things that the most powerful wealthy people on earth dont want you to question… thats the facts

    • @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect
      @TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect 5 місяців тому

      @@TT09B5 The reason you fools DONT think egypt was black is because History and scripture are both very adamant on the biblical jews and the Egyptians looking so similar that you really couldnt tell them apart… so if you think egyptians were black then you would be questioning things that the most powerful wealthy people on earth dont want you to question… thats the facts

    • @beetheking_7
      @beetheking_7 5 місяців тому +5

      This yall problem. Yall can’t handle the truth. It’s so feminine to deny truth. What is he saying wrong lol you triggered bc your history is a big lie?

    • @samuelpereira3856
      @samuelpereira3856 5 місяців тому +5

      @@beetheking_7 Americans and their multiple choice exams 😂

  • @loganus9114
    @loganus9114 7 місяців тому +48

    This guy is an Establishment Scholar, in other words, his knowledge of the world is through a "We Wuzz" Wakanda science.... In other words PURE FANTASY

    • @BarbokVA
      @BarbokVA 3 місяці тому +4

      He proves it with using all this misinformation to spread his political views, he is a activist and nothing more.

  • @jamesjill795
    @jamesjill795 2 роки тому +60

    300 - We find in the end Dilios is the narrator, re-telling the battle of Thermopylae, prior to battle at Platea. Dilios is not professor of Greek studies at Spartan University lecturing to grad students. This is a "ra-ra" locker-room type speech to fire up the troops for battle, something leaders do all the time. This story is told a specific way for the purpose of his audience - troops about battle and die. He portrays the enemy as formidable but not honorable. The enemy is/will be difficult to defeat, but on the wrong side of things. He portrays his fellow Spartans as idyllic, and the enemy as bizarre and flawed. Ephialtes is portrayed as most grotesque of all to a Spartan, as he is traitor to his own and too weak for battle. I have no idea if Dilios had ever faced an armored charging rhino or a 50' foot tall elephant, but I bet he'd exaggerate re-telling the story to his peers!

    • @huskybaiano3994
      @huskybaiano3994 2 роки тому +4

      In addition, Sparta was the most ableist society- they threw away babies with disabilities. So it would make sense that the disabled/disfigured character be evil

    • @Alpha-ix5tq
      @Alpha-ix5tq 10 місяців тому

      but it’s not even accurate to how they viewed Persians at the time

    • @frankvandorp2059
      @frankvandorp2059 7 місяців тому +3

      @@Alpha-ix5tq That depends a lot on which Greek source you're reading. The professor in this video just cherrypicked the most positive source about the Persians he could find, to then pretend that is how the Greeks in general viewed the Persians.

  • @andremoreiracosta6319
    @andremoreiracosta6319 8 місяців тому +40

    The movie 300 is based on a comic book, not a historical book, that’s why there is so many “non accurate” info there

    • @cronchybo
      @cronchybo 8 місяців тому +1

      that makes a lot of sense

    • @lorddiethorn
      @lorddiethorn 7 місяців тому

      @@cronchyboyeah which why you really shouldn’t not used in historical studies nor black panther. This guy is an massive hypocrite

  • @durzod2052
    @durzod2052 7 місяців тому +30

    the 300 is a movie based on a fricking COMIC BOOK (excuse me. "graphic novel"). It is NOT intended to be a history lesson. Anyone who treats it as such needsto do a little reading of books.

    • @Mac-t884
      @Mac-t884 6 місяців тому +3

      You should address this to Zack Snyder then because he claimed it’s 90% historically accurate in an interview.

  • @eduardmanecuta5350
    @eduardmanecuta5350 9 місяців тому +325

    First of all, 300 is made after a comic book by Frank Miller. It isn't meant to be historically accurate. That's one. And second. They didn't let the diformed guy go with them because he couldn't lift his shield, not simply because he was diformed.

  • @RyanG0899
    @RyanG0899 7 місяців тому +105

    Metatron sent me here. This guy isn't just a clown he's the whole circus.

  • @pollomollo
    @pollomollo 7 місяців тому +444

    This “historian” is the equivalent of “biologists” claiming men can get pregnant.

    • @AntiFaGoat
      @AntiFaGoat 7 місяців тому +4

      Spoken by esteemed B+ Graduate of middle school biology... in 2005.

    • @pollatin1052
      @pollatin1052 7 місяців тому +31

      @@AntiFaGoat Well then. Explain further if you know so much.

    • @iamhungey12345
      @iamhungey12345 7 місяців тому +13

      @@pollatin1052 Going by his user name, I hope it's satire.

    • @dangerdan2592
      @dangerdan2592 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@iamhungey12345Sadly it's hard to tell, I think this may be a real person but idk.

    • @scrappydoo7887
      @scrappydoo7887 7 місяців тому

      Spot on

  • @heart7773
    @heart7773 2 роки тому +57

    Need to remember that in the movie '300', it's narrated after the fact as a propaganda tale to inspire the army, & just like in all wars, demonizing the enemy is common in propaganda. Look at WWII propaganda as a example

    • @arman_1024
      @arman_1024 2 роки тому +11

      I don’t understand how that excuses the racist and bigoted imagery. Yes, World War propaganda was usually very racist and led to several problems, so how is this narration explanation an excuse for dismissing the imagery? That simply seems like a cop out to protect Miller and Snyder.
      Let’s not forget that Miller also wrote “holy terror,” a comic in which all Muslims (men women and children) were depicted as terrorists, and Snyder claimed that “300” was 90% historically accurate.

    • @dimipartcaster7770
      @dimipartcaster7770 2 роки тому +5

      It has nothing to do with propaganda. Persia invaded in Greece so 300 Spartans went at Thermopylai to stop the enemy. It wasnt about demonize nobody. They went there to defend their land and their families. And it was more than enough.

    • @dickjones4356
      @dickjones4356 2 роки тому +4

      @@dimipartcaster7770 "It has nothing to do with propaganda." Except that battle BECAME propaganda so it still have to do with propaganda.

    • @dickjones4356
      @dickjones4356 2 роки тому +21

      @@arman_1024 "I don’t understand how that excuses the racist and bigoted imagery." Except it is a movie and not a documentary but clearly you are not educated to understand that. By the way calling it racist and bigoted imagery only proves that you have no arguments after all.
      "and Snyder claimed that “300” was 90% historically accurate." Well did the battle not happened? Since 90% of the story is true you really have nothing to complain about.

    • @yungjoemighty879
      @yungjoemighty879 2 роки тому

      simp

  • @avacornthelastponybender8583
    @avacornthelastponybender8583 7 місяців тому +29

    M. Night Shyamalan's The Last Airbender was more faithful source material than Disney's Hercules 🙄

  • @impactsalesandlife9299
    @impactsalesandlife9299 2 роки тому +42

    Omg, I didn’t expect so much social/political commentary when I clicked this video.

  • @dt1458
    @dt1458 7 місяців тому +48

    this guy clearly doesn’t know the medusa myth or is purposely misrepresenting it

  • @fire1ce
    @fire1ce 2 роки тому +7

    At 24:38 he said that he has visited some locations that associate with the entrances of the underworld. Does anybody know where they may be, I would love to visit too!

  • @connordeboer2928
    @connordeboer2928 3 місяці тому +5

    18:22 he is just wrong Prometheus did not create Pandora, Hephaestus did after being commissioned by Zeus. Pandora was also not given to Prometheus, she was given to his brother Epimetheus. I don’t like the fact that this “expert” in Greek mythology doesn’t seem to know that.

    • @fallkhan1376
      @fallkhan1376 Місяць тому

      Well, almost every greek myth has at least 2-3 versions, so it's actually more down to what like most/think is original one

  • @kiera6581
    @kiera6581 2 роки тому +7

    Imagine today if you threw in a credit card trying to get to the Underworld.
    You: *swipes card*
    Chiron : Sorry, sir. Your card is maxed out.

  • @Ohnonono123
    @Ohnonono123 7 місяців тому +377

    Another cliche woke professor inserting his politics into everything. Yawn

  • @georgezachos7322
    @georgezachos7322 2 роки тому +43

    Small correction. The round shield was called 'hoplon'. The word 'hoplitai' used, means 'shield bearer ' and refers to the soldier using it.

    • @EvripidouM
      @EvripidouM 2 роки тому +1

      Οπλον and οπλιται

  • @ainamaree
    @ainamaree 7 місяців тому +34

    I just finished watching Metatron's reaction to this video and came here to check out the comments section. 😂

    • @ettinakitten5047
      @ettinakitten5047 7 місяців тому +5

      Hope you're not gullible enough to believe Metatron's drivel, lol.

    • @christerjakobsen8107
      @christerjakobsen8107 7 місяців тому +14

      @@ettinakitten5047 You sure are everywhere in the comments trying to do damage control.

    • @Tyevic
      @Tyevic 7 місяців тому +7

      @@ettinakitten5047 I do when he backs it with proof lol.

    • @destinjones6624
      @destinjones6624 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Tyevichis proof is utter bs.

  • @Animalfarm4481
    @Animalfarm4481 7 місяців тому +6

    The fact that vanity fair recommended this guy says it all 😅

  • @MrCmon113
    @MrCmon113 6 місяців тому +7

    14:08
    Lol.
    So if I'm German, everything that Germans ever made or used belongs to me. Even if it hangs in a Museum?
    I can show up to a Museum in New York and just take their German medieval armour?

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 6 місяців тому

      You can even go and seize all the cars since it's a german invention too lmao haha He has such a dumb logic.

    • @mouhalo
      @mouhalo 5 місяців тому

      No but in 3000 years you would be entitled to it

  • @tortaahogada9685
    @tortaahogada9685 2 роки тому +10

    Persians looked like twisted monsters because, as we see at the end of the movie, it is a story been told to inspire the Spartan army, so they would exaggerate to fantasy some details to hype the warriors

  • @dpc4548
    @dpc4548 Місяць тому +1

    This guy explains perfectly why my daughter doesn't want to go to university.

  • @nanushka
    @nanushka 2 роки тому +40

    I think this expert doesn't know '300' is based in a comic book / graphic novel. The movie is almost identical and very graphical. It's not meant to be historically accurate by any means

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 7 місяців тому +8

      Well the "expert" isn't historically accurate by any means... he says a bunch of lies in service of his political beliefs.

  • @johnspence5689
    @johnspence5689 7 місяців тому +81

    Didn’t know you were an expert on racism, shoulda put that in the title

  • @aakla
    @aakla 2 роки тому +18

    I could be mistaken but I think 300 isn't about the 300 it's about the story the one eyed dude told people about the last stand of the 300, that's why it's exaggerated so much. To hype up the spartans.

  • @ViejoLocuelo
    @ViejoLocuelo 7 місяців тому +10

    Hmmm… I had no idea you could get a degree in ancient mythology by watching Black Panther movies. Cool!

  • @scifoncra6376
    @scifoncra6376 2 роки тому +53

    talks about Mythology.
    uses the term "Herkules" for the GREEK HERO. Not Herakles. Until he does. Weird decision there.
    Could've mentioned that Hades didn't have those two "imps". Those were Ares's.
    also uses the term "african" like it encompasses the whole continent, but then Greek and Roman for respective mediterranean people.
    also forgot to mention that greeks respected snakes and believed them to be connect to healing, hence why it's in the medical symbols. Athena's animal was also the snake, not just the owl.

    • @redbeardreturns3550
      @redbeardreturns3550 2 роки тому +3

      Thank you!!!! Also isn't the snake in medical symbols a reference to "koondalini" idk how to spell it.

    • @Arthur-pc1eh
      @Arthur-pc1eh 4 місяці тому +1

      @@redbeardreturns3550 You're mixing Indian and Greek concepts...

  • @thetruerift
    @thetruerift 2 роки тому +12

    One thing that needs to be mentioned whenever Sparta is mentioned they could be professional soldiers because of the THOUSANDS OF SLAVES they had. The ratio of slaves to spartans was something like 7:1.

  • @jerrogs
    @jerrogs 2 роки тому +6

    but 300 is based on a comic book... a fictional adapatation by Frank Miller of the Battle of Thermopylae.

  • @danielunderwood3198
    @danielunderwood3198 8 місяців тому +1

    Disney turning hera into a doting mother of herakles lol is honestly just wild!

  • @Flyingtart
    @Flyingtart 7 місяців тому +36

    Happy to see Metatron making a video about this. A lot of anachronistic political horsecrap that sadly goes to the big audience.

  • @tric5122
    @tric5122 2 роки тому +17

    I think this guy is hilarious trying to take on all these serious issues of today in a fantasy movie where they didn't even really care to try and get it historically accurate. At no time was this movie trying to be taken serious as a historical movie.

  • @thestarlightvarietyshow9303
    @thestarlightvarietyshow9303 2 роки тому +13

    This is amazing. Would love to see him or other professors on segments like this

  • @ibroughtreceipts
    @ibroughtreceipts 7 місяців тому +4

    Shining example of what kids are learning in universities, nothing but garbage. I’m glad they keep creating content like this so we aren’t blind to what goes on in those classrooms.

  • @BigBear_all_over
    @BigBear_all_over 7 місяців тому +83

    I don’t believe it’s fair to say that 300 was racist. It was based of a graphic novel and the Persians were hyperbolically depicted as monsters. It’s a fictional adaption of that war.

    • @RKB-2001
      @RKB-2001 6 місяців тому +1

      He is just a political agent doing nothing more then propagating his ideological ideas, I know the word "professor" has no meaning anymore anyway but still sad that this dude can be called that

    • @Mac-t884
      @Mac-t884 6 місяців тому

      The graphic novel was written by a hateful bigot who’s known for depicting non-white, eastern people are evil and monstrous.

  • @aappaapp6627
    @aappaapp6627 2 роки тому +10

    Heracles being the first black panther was a hot take I wasn't expecting today 😅😅

  • @boudebond
    @boudebond 7 місяців тому +116

    I hope he is not that political in his teachings cause that would be a shame.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 7 місяців тому +27

      of course he is.

    • @Joedem92
      @Joedem92 7 місяців тому +10

      I assure you that he is, as are all of the liberal professors. In fact, you could tell the politics of a professor about how vocal they were about politics. The less political detours in a lecture, the more conservative they were. When I was in college, I had a professor, on day 1, say that she was a communist and hated America. IN NYC. They can’t help themselves.

  • @KaroKaffe
    @KaroKaffe Місяць тому

    So well and accurately explained! Thank you :)

  • @ChristopherPomerleau
    @ChristopherPomerleau 7 місяців тому +184

    I wish there was more history and less wokism.

  • @EmperorNerox
    @EmperorNerox 2 роки тому +7

    He seems so sure the ancient sources were clear about this and that about Sparta, but what ancient sources ever mentions they used a phalanx formation?

  • @akaDOOMZ
    @akaDOOMZ 7 місяців тому +8

    Mythology expert reviews GREEK and ROMAN mythology and spends half the video talking about the mythology of wakanda, an imaginary AFRICAN country known for being a hostile isolationist technological ethnostate that was invented by 2 jewish men in 1960's New York to sell action adventure superhero comicbooks to children.

  • @mrthisbetterstick7776
    @mrthisbetterstick7776 6 місяців тому +1

    My biggest problem with 300 was that they spend 500 bazillion dollars on CGI, yet forgot to airbrush out everyone's polio vaccine scars.

  • @TingTong2568
    @TingTong2568 7 місяців тому +7

    This guy missed the point no country and civilization can survive remaining in isolation.

  • @stillbrian9448
    @stillbrian9448 7 місяців тому +26

    This guy's an actual professor?

    • @Sira_Kackavalj
      @Sira_Kackavalj 4 місяці тому +3

      Going by his job position, yes. Going by his education, no. He probably got his PhD in woke politics

  • @whyjnot420
    @whyjnot420 2 роки тому +13

    expert: We have to treat Greek and Roman history as part of an area of the world with many diverse cultures
    also expert: But I'm going to treat Africa as monolithic
    Maybe something was lost in editing, but that is how he came across here.
    Also, seems like he was a bit too focused on the modern world... shouldn't be surprised given the title of his professorship.

    • @redbeardreturns3550
      @redbeardreturns3550 2 роки тому +6

      Yeah his takes really botherd me.
      Like dude, focus on the historical context.
      Not the modern ideals we have today.
      300 is racist now? Was the Jan 6th comment necessary? Was there a need for constant pry barring? This "expert" just reviewed all of these films with his rose tinted glasses on.
      Also poiting out the fact that Spartans experimented with sexuality without acknowledging the connection to the downfall of their civilization is just wrong.

  • @persiswynter6357
    @persiswynter6357 3 місяці тому +1

    Black Panther - no call out that Bast is the CAT goddess (literally pussycats), SEKHMET is a lioness.

    • @persiswynter6357
      @persiswynter6357 3 місяці тому

      And that she's Egyptian, not Greek nor Roman.

  • @drew.168
    @drew.168 2 роки тому +7

    More of this guy for sure, very well spoken.

  • @frankvandorp2059
    @frankvandorp2059 7 місяців тому +117

    This guy does not explain mythology, he rewrites it to better fit his own 21st Century political narratives.

    • @bmw8913
      @bmw8913 Місяць тому

      Have you ever thought that history has always been rewritten by a white mans perspective? So this “rewriting” you’re talking is just retelling it as ACCURATE?

  • @agathaohoshley5630
    @agathaohoshley5630 2 роки тому +9

    I could listen to him for hours!

  • @LilianaStoica-m2w
    @LilianaStoica-m2w 7 місяців тому +3

    Go Metraton for pointing the truth! best channel for mythology !

  • @westnilesnipes
    @westnilesnipes 2 роки тому +6

    Fascinating stuff! Hope to see more of this guy.

    • @proto566
      @proto566 7 місяців тому +1

      Hope Not cause he lied uninterrupted

  • @liamm0266
    @liamm0266 2 роки тому +12

    Love how we were able to make a January 6 reference and call the movie racist for attacking Persians

    • @nunu.5887
      @nunu.5887 2 роки тому +1

      because it is

    • @AngryDad.
      @AngryDad. 12 днів тому

      @@nunu.5887makes no sense

  • @Spirofett
    @Spirofett Рік тому +8

    It always bothers me that 300 is judged as a historical film. It's a comic book movie, based on a Frank Miller graphic novel. Zak Snyder was bringing those pages to life, not the history books.

  • @Galvaxatron
    @Galvaxatron 7 місяців тому +12

    This guy is a mythology expert in that he expertly makes up myths on the fly.

  • @memegalodon4522
    @memegalodon4522 7 місяців тому +26

    I see the title of expert is very loose nowadays.

  • @GrapeWrath
    @GrapeWrath 2 роки тому +13

    As for '300', it's not wrong. it's a point of view. if characters seem monstrous, it's a metaphor.

    • @StuartEaston23
      @StuartEaston23 2 роки тому +12

      Yeah I think that's lost on a lot of people in this comment section. Too many people immediately wanna jump to "muh racism", when the narrator is intentionally trying to make them sound as horrible as possible.

  • @tomhumphreys3929
    @tomhumphreys3929 2 роки тому +8

    I dont think the Persians being depicted as monsters and deformed was to be taken as literal because at the start of the film we are shown that it is Dilios who is telling the story of leonidis and the 300 to him men afterwards, so i believe the reason the persians were depicted that way was because it was dilios fantasy story telling that portrayed them like that.

    • @XxGreatestyouknoWxX
      @XxGreatestyouknoWxX 2 роки тому +3

      This dude is a lib head, he's spouting activist propaganda to promote "white hate". The guys a weirdo.

  • @byronhotchkiss3254
    @byronhotchkiss3254 6 місяців тому +1

    Surprised this is still up. Surprised Vanity Fair is still in business. Surprised this guy still has a job. Surprised New York University still exists.

  • @xavierg1415
    @xavierg1415 7 місяців тому +332

    Can we get a non-woke expert?!

    • @Alaplaya9
      @Alaplaya9 7 місяців тому +20

      Sorry, to be an expert you have to know stuff and once you start knowing stuff, you kind of become "woke".

    • @tiborcsendes5269
      @tiborcsendes5269 7 місяців тому +163

      @@Alaplaya9 Only if you twist that knowledge into some absurd woke nonsense.

    • @flvflv4712
      @flvflv4712 7 місяців тому +68

      ​@@Alaplaya9and to say what've said you must be really ignorant 😂.
      It's the other way round pal

    • @Einygmar
      @Einygmar 7 місяців тому +30

      @@Alaplaya9 Not really. There's no inherent "wokeness" in science. Some non-formal\soft scientific disciplines such as social sciences can be "woke" due to the nature the methodologies used in them having more emphasis on interpretation (speculative approach) rather than constructing empirically falsifiable theories. Different schools of thought can have different interpretations. Many of them are present in academia as orthodox and heterodox, some of them are "woke".

    • @frankvandorp2059
      @frankvandorp2059 7 місяців тому +66

      ​@@Alaplaya9 Nah, wokeness mostly means you tell politically preferred lies about certain subjects regardless of the truth, as evidenced by this guy's clueless lecture with its countless factual errors.
      In academia specifically, wokeness means you become an expert not because you know things, but because you say things. Things that people in positions of power like to hear.

  • @prepperchris1
    @prepperchris1 2 роки тому +9

    you linked a marvel of a culture that never happened to greek roman mythology the ways your mind must twist match up thing is insane

  • @bloodink9508
    @bloodink9508 2 роки тому +17

    The one accidentally good thing about Pegasus in Hercules, despite the fact Pegasus isn’t related to any Hercules myths, is the that they accurately point out that Pegasus is the name of that specific individual winged horse and it the name of a whole breed of them. There is one Pegasus and that’s it.

    • @Blokewood3
      @Blokewood3 2 роки тому +1

      To be fair, some ancient writers like Pliny speculated that there were flocks of winged horses living in the wild. It wouldn't be that unreasonable to name such a group after their most famous member (and presumed ancestor).

  • @madapigi1
    @madapigi1 2 дні тому

    Sparta being exclusionary and isolationist = bad.
    Wakanda being exclusionary and isolationist = YAAASSSS