Sucks being on the losing end, especially after a great regular season. Sending you all the best from Av's country. Hang in there. There will be 15 other teams going through the same thing before it's over. Enjoyed your show throughout!
I'd say the Jets team we saw in this series was exactly the same team we saw in the regular season. The problem was that Avs team was not. They have another gear for the playoffs. That's something they had to learn and if the Jets want a cup they will have to learn it too. They know it and pretty much to a man said as much.
Stars fan here. I thought ‘peg would take this series. Strong(est) D, good goalie and better O than last year. I thought maybe this was the team Bones needed? Thinking back to his days in Dallas though, special teams weren’t a strength.
AVS fan here try not to be salt Nation next year. Top line might need to be addressed, coach should have made the adjustments sooner. If y'all rolled the line up you had last night it would have been closer. See you next year for sure mad respect. Welcome to the show boys!
@@RealBillBerg_8 AVS did not get lucky, they are that good and evidence of this can be found starting at the trade deadline and the run the AVS had. That is the team that decided to show up for the playoffs, not the team from he last 9 season games. Pretty ignorant to make a comment only basing the AVS record from the last 9 games of the season... or just you being salty.
@@RealBillBerg_8 Avs won a cup with middling goaltending. Keumper is just ok. Avs have an offense and defense where we don't need a "Vezina/Jennings" goalie(s).
Laker fans could learn a lot from you. Honest about your team’s strengths and weaknesses, can appreciate a solid opponent, and are super smart and positive. Oh, and no excuses. Well done.
@@SportsTalkWPG We don't take it for granted to get to watch MacKinnon and Makar (along with Rantanen, Nichuskin, et al) every night. And Jokic too. These are the good old days in the Mile High City. Thanks for a great show!
The Jets have to change management if they're not going to change players to sign two players to huge contracts to do nothing on the ice with they have to is just a crime for true hockey fans
The Jets 2.0 are the better NHL version of the Jets. OF COURSE everyone misses when the Jets won Championships ...holy fack ..its 2024...the Hotline are where they belong now , in the rafters and in Hockey History. You can't live in reverse. This is a part of being a fan. Winnipeg winning every Stanley Cup since they returned would have been impossible. We made it to the FINAL FOUR in 2018... The FURTHEST the Jets have EVER BEEN IN EITHER ERA of the NHL. IF we can be alive to WITNESS the Jets come into existence , win the Avco Cup 3 times, Come in the NHL , Leave and come back AND ALSO WITNESS the CHICAGO CUBS finally BREAK THAT CURSE in 2016. then as the GREAT Harry Caray once said ... 'AS GOD MADE GREEN APPLES ...' THE WINNIPEG JETS ...WILL WIN THE STANLEY CUP ONE DAY!!!
Perfetti on 2nd line looked great. I kinda knew as soon as I saw the Jets go back to the lines that weren't working for them all series at the beginning of the 3rd that it was all over.
As an Av’s fan I will say that Winnipeg is a very good team. We are fortunate that the Av’s played as well as they did. Hang in there, you have a bright future.
As an Avs fan, I've got to wonder how this series would have looked if the Jets iced this lineup from game 2 onward. This was a great series, it just felt like anytime the Jets made adjustments they were too little too late. The Avs got their speed game going and that's what makes them so hard to play against. It was almost like the Avs flipped a switch to up their game for the playoffs while the Jets didn't really seem to be able to do that. It was a super tough series despite only going 5 games. I know for the Avs they had to learn from some tough series losses, maybe that's the case for the Jets. With Helle in net the Jets will be a problem in the Central for the foreseeable future. Not a Jets fan but I'll sub to the channel because I enjoy your analysis of the game, glad I stumbled on this channel and I'm sure we'll see you guys next season.
I just noticed how Pionk clears it out of his own net after the goal and rests his stick on one shoulder like a golfer. Should we see this as a Freudian gesture indicating he realizes he has just sent WPG straight to the golf course?
Apparently when Parise was injured Jets fans started chanting 'Go Jets Go'.. that was disgusting. They also booed when Makar was injured. At least when Vlad was injured the Avs fans were quiet till he was able to skate off, than they cheered him. Jets fans need to be a little more respectable to an injured opponent players.
From an Avs fan, it's sad the NHL went to this new seeding format, and it really effected the West more than the East. I wish they went back to 1-8 but maybe take out the reseeding. Anyway I knew whoever faced the Avs in the 1st round would have a rough go. There is no way with the core of that cup team from 2022 that they were going to go out in the first round again. Loosing to Seattle where we had a shell of a roster, with numerous guys injured Nichushkin out, and Cale Makar getting a suspension from an unfortunate and uncharacteristic play from him. This is the first year they've really addressed the loss of Landeskog and Kadri. While I'm glad the Avs won it sucks that we lose a top team in the west so early on. You're also going to lose Dallas or Vegas in round 1 and then by the western converence finals you may only have one of the top 5 point leaders left. The East it seem like only with Boston and Toronto will you lose a top teams in the first round.
Fantastic commentary. Jets were super confident and ran into an absolute buzz saw. League should take notice as to what the Avs offense did to the top net-minder and his defense
No Pushback .. ..no extra gear ....Avs much better team .......As Josh M said he hopes there is not one single player who walks away in disgust and in a fiery state of mind so they can come back next year And DO BETTER....Sadly Bones gonna hang it up this was a good team Chevy put together PLAYERS NEEDED TO PLAY LIKE They DID PRIOR TO DECEMBER AND DID NOT DELIVER
Obviously it wasn’t Connor wearing a tie…. You both did a great job over the five playoff games and I just wish there had been at least 16 more episodes. Once again WST elevates the bar… well done.
Last comment of the year from me, but sadly the season was a bust because we end everything with more questions than answers exactly like last year.. this was a year to answer questions about the team. The defense I thought did all they could, yes there were some mistakes but every D core this time of year makes them. Helle and the fans were left out to dry by forwards who could not pickup the second level, secondary scoring or shots from the point. Let’s be honest jets would’ve lost to any team in the western conference, thankfully it’s not as embarrassing losing to an avalanche team who won a Stanley cup a few years ago
There's a psychological human need to identify a villain when an unwanted and embarrassing outcome occurs. I feel for many Connor Hellebuyck is filling this need -- unfairly. Was he sparkling? No. I think you could argue maybe 2 to 4 goals (out of the 28!) were ones you'd like to see him stop. But come on. The man faced a shooting gallery. Where was his help?
@@RedRocket204 we are getting the Jets again, how's that salt. When the arena is built, the seeds were already sewn when Jets management said we need season ticket holders! Imagine, us taking your team twice!!!!!!!
@@RealBillBerg_8 LOL, you live in the states and don't recognize a CO flag in my avatar? And besides, regardless of where you get a NHL team, Phoenix is still a dump.
Jets are a great team when it doesn’t count. Bucky will never win a Stanley Cup folds like a cheap tent. Good news we’re stuck with him for another 7 years
Neil pionk pretty much scored the series winning goal for Colorado and you blaming the goalie who faced 15 shots in the first 5 minutes of every game ?
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That Manson own goal was one of the funniest ones I’ve seen until Pionk said “hold my beer” lol
Sucks being on the losing end, especially after a great regular season. Sending you all the best from Av's country. Hang in there. There will be 15 other teams going through the same thing before it's over. Enjoyed your show throughout!
I'd say the Jets team we saw in this series was exactly the same team we saw in the regular season. The problem was that Avs team was not. They have another gear for the playoffs. That's something they had to learn and if the Jets want a cup they will have to learn it too. They know it and pretty much to a man said as much.
Avs fan here. Your fans are epic and deserve better.
Epic? They were classless and rude.
Thanks man. We’ll try again next year
I second the fans were terrible and classless
@@Emma_2Banks seriously. The "pull your goalie" chant was ridiculous considering how many Helle let in in the same game and then next 4 games
Stars fan here. I thought ‘peg would take this series. Strong(est) D, good goalie and better O than last year. I thought maybe this was the team Bones needed? Thinking back to his days in Dallas though, special teams weren’t a strength.
AVS fan here try not to be salt Nation next year. Top line might need to be addressed, coach should have made the adjustments sooner. If y'all rolled the line up you had last night it would have been closer. See you next year for sure mad respect. Welcome to the show boys!
A little too cocky for a team with no goaltending. AVS got lucky
@@RealBillBerg_8 AVS did not get lucky, they are that good and evidence of this can be found starting at the trade deadline and the run the AVS had. That is the team that decided to show up for the playoffs, not the team from he last 9 season games. Pretty ignorant to make a comment only basing the AVS record from the last 9 games of the season... or just you being salty.
@@RealBillBerg_8 not trying to throw stones y'all got something good just need to make some changes is all. Georgy is still a question mark for sure.
@@Kaus5221 anybody who uses y'all doesn't know squat about hockey... Sorry
@@RealBillBerg_8 Avs won a cup with middling goaltending. Keumper is just ok. Avs have an offense and defense where we don't need a "Vezina/Jennings" goalie(s).
Laker fans could learn a lot from you. Honest about your team’s strengths and weaknesses, can appreciate a solid opponent, and are super smart and positive. Oh, and no excuses. Well done.
thanks so much. the Avs were the better team and deserved to win. Years from now we'll be able to say we saw Hall of Fame players at their best.
@@SportsTalkWPG We don't take it for granted to get to watch MacKinnon and Makar (along with Rantanen, Nichuskin, et al) every night. And Jokic too. These are the good old days in the Mile High City. Thanks for a great show!
@@SportsTalkWPG
Yes, root for us Av’s. It will make it easier to swallow if you know you lost to a team that went on to win the Cup.
The Jets have to change management if they're not going to change players to sign two players to huge contracts to do nothing on the ice with they have to is just a crime for true hockey fans
The Winnipeg Jets are Lucy, and the Winnipeg Jet fans are Charlie Brown. They fall for it year after year. I miss the WHA.
The Jets 2.0 are the better NHL version of the Jets.
OF COURSE everyone misses when the Jets won Championships ...holy fack ..its 2024...the Hotline are where they belong now , in the rafters and in Hockey History.
You can't live in reverse.
This is a part of being a fan. Winnipeg winning every Stanley Cup since they returned would have been impossible. We made it to the FINAL FOUR in 2018...
The FURTHEST the Jets have EVER BEEN IN EITHER ERA of the NHL.
IF we can be alive to WITNESS the Jets come into existence , win the Avco Cup 3 times, Come in the NHL , Leave and come back AND ALSO WITNESS the CHICAGO CUBS finally BREAK THAT CURSE in 2016.
then as the GREAT Harry Caray once said ...
'AS GOD MADE GREEN APPLES ...' THE WINNIPEG JETS ...WILL WIN THE STANLEY CUP ONE DAY!!!
Perfetti on 2nd line looked great. I kinda knew as soon as I saw the Jets go back to the lines that weren't working for them all series at the beginning of the 3rd that it was all over.
As an Av’s fan I will say that Winnipeg is a very good team. We are fortunate that the Av’s played as well as they did. Hang in there, you have a bright future.
As an Avs fan, I've got to wonder how this series would have looked if the Jets iced this lineup from game 2 onward. This was a great series, it just felt like anytime the Jets made adjustments they were too little too late. The Avs got their speed game going and that's what makes them so hard to play against. It was almost like the Avs flipped a switch to up their game for the playoffs while the Jets didn't really seem to be able to do that. It was a super tough series despite only going 5 games. I know for the Avs they had to learn from some tough series losses, maybe that's the case for the Jets. With Helle in net the Jets will be a problem in the Central for the foreseeable future. Not a Jets fan but I'll sub to the channel because I enjoy your analysis of the game, glad I stumbled on this channel and I'm sure we'll see you guys next season.
The solution was obvious, Jets needed to score 7 goals a game to support leagues best defence and vezina goalie. Simple!!
"beautiful backdoor tap-in" by Pionk on his own net 😂
lol was it not? how else can I describe it.
@@SportsTalkWPG In the matter of backdoor tap-ins, as elsewhere, the "beaut[y]" is in the eye of the beholder. I sure thought it was beautiful!
I just noticed how Pionk clears it out of his own net after the goal and rests his stick on one shoulder like a golfer. Should we see this as a Freudian gesture indicating he realizes he has just sent WPG straight to the golf course?
Apparently when Parise was injured Jets fans started chanting 'Go Jets Go'.. that was disgusting. They also booed when Makar was injured. At least when Vlad was injured the Avs fans were quiet till he was able to skate off, than they cheered him. Jets fans need to be a little more respectable to an injured opponent players.
Still a Fan of our Jets 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 GoJetsGo❤
I don’t think the Jets have enough guys that drive the play, too many perimeter players.
Biggest positive takeaway is that Winnipeg proved once again that we are the best and loudest fans in the League
Huh? I beg to differ and refer you to Game 4 with the Avs fan. they were loud
The "white-out" is a nice touch! Something like that could never be organized in Denver, waaay too many transplants.
Who cares about loud fans when you’re constantly losing playoff games, so that’s all we got then? Yippee Kiyay!
@@CJK57
We care because earlier this season Winnipeg fans were seriously called out by the hockey world for not caring about the team.
That’s why.
Too bad you guys were so rude when Parise was hit. You may be passionate. But that doesn’t go well with classless.
From an Avs fan, it's sad the NHL went to this new seeding format, and it really effected the West more than the East. I wish they went back to 1-8 but maybe take out the reseeding. Anyway I knew whoever faced the Avs in the 1st round would have a rough go. There is no way with the core of that cup team from 2022 that they were going to go out in the first round again. Loosing to Seattle where we had a shell of a roster, with numerous guys injured Nichushkin out, and Cale Makar getting a suspension from an unfortunate and uncharacteristic play from him. This is the first year they've really addressed the loss of Landeskog and Kadri. While I'm glad the Avs won it sucks that we lose a top team in the west so early on. You're also going to lose Dallas or Vegas in round 1 and then by the western converence finals you may only have one of the top 5 point leaders left. The East it seem like only with Boston and Toronto will you lose a top teams in the first round.
Fantastic commentary. Jets were super confident and ran into an absolute buzz saw. League should take notice as to what the Avs offense did to the top net-minder and his defense
No Pushback .. ..no extra gear ....Avs much better team .......As Josh M said he hopes there is not one single player who walks away in disgust and in a fiery state of mind so they can come back next year And DO BETTER....Sadly Bones gonna hang it up this was a good team Chevy put together PLAYERS NEEDED TO PLAY LIKE They DID PRIOR TO DECEMBER AND DID NOT DELIVER
When people were picking the Jets in thus series, I thought I wasbin a Twilight Zone episode. I had the Avs in 4.
Obviously it wasn’t Connor wearing a tie…. You both did a great job over the five playoff games and I just wish there had been at least 16 more episodes. Once again WST elevates the bar… well done.
Last comment of the year from me, but sadly the season was a bust because we end everything with more questions than answers exactly like last year.. this was a year to answer questions about the team. The defense I thought did all they could, yes there were some mistakes but every D core this time of year makes them. Helle and the fans were left out to dry by forwards who could not pickup the second level, secondary scoring or shots from the point. Let’s be honest jets would’ve lost to any team in the western conference, thankfully it’s not as embarrassing losing to an avalanche team who won a Stanley cup a few years ago
These guys are real live wires
Having said that, Craig Berube or coach Q please
There's a psychological human need to identify a villain when an unwanted and embarrassing outcome occurs. I feel for many Connor Hellebuyck is filling this need -- unfairly. Was he sparkling? No. I think you could argue maybe 2 to 4 goals (out of the 28!) were ones you'd like to see him stop. But come on. The man faced a shooting gallery. Where was his help?
If Laurent was put in the net 3 rd period we would have won
Looking sharp boys!
Quenville in with all other coaches replaced with special attention to NEW special teams coach
These two look like they broke into the arena and we're waiting for security to come toss em out!
Throw some more salt why don't you, why? Because that dump of a town, Phoenix, no longer has a NHL team?
@@RedRocket204 we are getting the Jets again, how's that salt. When the arena is built, the seeds were already sewn when Jets management said we need season ticket holders! Imagine, us taking your team twice!!!!!!!
@@RealBillBerg_8 LOL, you live in the states and don't recognize a CO flag in my avatar? And besides, regardless of where you get a NHL team, Phoenix is still a dump.
"entertaining" = soul-destroying.
To be fair. Pionk scored for Colorado today. So Colorado really only scored 4
Yeah, but Colorado also got an own goal, so really they did score 6 (or I guess 5 since you aren't counting the empty net?)
@jj204 And the Jets never scored more than two goals a game after game 1?
Winnipeggers are notorious bandwagon jumpers.
Connor is overated.
Which one? And I agree.
Jets are a great team when it doesn’t count. Bucky will never win a Stanley Cup folds like a cheap tent. Good news we’re stuck with him for another 7 years
Neil pionk pretty much scored the series winning goal for Colorado and you blaming the goalie who faced 15 shots in the first 5 minutes of every game ?
@@jj204 His playoff body of work goes beyond that and speaks for itself.