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- 230 volt capable electronics are typically also rated for 50Hz operation. But, what happens when that same unit is powered by a 60Hz power? Will the unit be damaged? If you want to learn more, grab a copy of Paul's new book, The Audiophile's Guide. www.amazon.com/Audiophiles-Gu...
I know a lot of people complain that you take forever to explain the point (I don’t think so) but I love that you immediately have us a “quick answer” and THEN explained the history. You should do that more often!
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Oh yes 👌👏😂🤦♂️ but if it didn't take him forever to explain the point, then people would complain that he doesn't explain everything, and that it could lead to people making mistakes and its his fault, etc 🤭
@@davpro1792 It's a good speed for non-technical audiences
This video is 4 years old and still helped me! 😅 I came for the answer that was given under a minute and stayed for the very informative extra! Awesome video, thanks!
One interesting trivia: in aviation, they use 400Hz inside planes to power stuff, because it results in much smaller, thus lighter, transformers.
This is absolutely correct. Thanks for bringing it up.
Right, and that's the same principle that makes switch mode power supplies so small and efficient. Some units even operate in the mhz range, but most operate at least over 50khz. But there's a reason why we don't use 400hz or even higher for our utility system. The higher the frequency, the more difficult the power is to distribute over long distances. There is a cost tradeoff point and 50/60hz is in a sweet spot.
@@andydelle4509 Generators - typical rotor assemblies used in dams and other power plants that outputs 60 Hz at 4,000 vac are already rotating at a speed of Mach 3 hence the noisy operation. I don't know yet of an electronic based swithing mode power supply capable of supplying hundreds of megawatts while working at a frequency of 50,000 Hz or higher already exists or already in widespread use. A smps capable of delivering megawatts to gigawatts of power would probably be an improvement over our existing tech of ac mains power generaton.
It's like a gold rush with so many nuggets of knowledge! Thanks Paul.
It`s nice that you get to the point quick and then start talking the story :D
50 or 60 does it matter if the load is resistive? The output anyways goes to DC and the frequency not matters anymore after DC output. But It do gives a big problem if its inductive load like washing machine, fridge or any device that has pump and motors. they will perform +-10% at full sine wave. Not a short temr
noticeable problem but long term will do.
A 100% pure resistive load should work with both
Hello. Im wondering about this. I live in Ireland and got a washinng machine with 220v and 50hz. Will it be waste to take back with or try to sell it for whatever I can get. It was quite expensive, and I would hate to lose the money I paid for it.
@@owenpowell5370is there an impure
@@deeremeyer1749 Sometimes people just want a basic functional answer and, in the words of Frank Shirley, none of that bullshit jargon that nobody understands. If you plug in a 50hz rated space heater into a 60hz supply, it will work. Will it be ideal? Of course not, but if it is temporary, no big deal.
@@NYGiants4Life when you say "take back", do you mean take it to the USA? If so, you would be running it on 240 V and 60 Hz. There are two parts of the machine to consider, the control circuitry and the motors. If there are electronics, digital/microprocessor control, in the control, it may also have a transformer and relays. Some of those may be designed for a voltage range and dual frequencies, or not. Running a 50 Hz motor on 60 Hz will cause it to run 20% faster. It may consume more current and have greater losses. It is possible the machine will work in the USA but with some issues and shortened life span. For a definitive answer, check with the manufacturer to see what they recommend. But my advice would be to put the money saved on shipping costs towards buying a new machine in the USA. Below are two pretty good articles with a lot more detail.
www.50hz60hz.com/60hz-motor-running-on-50hz-power-supply.html
www.50hz60hz.com/what-happens-if-50hz-motor-is-driven-at-60hz.html
Thank you sir ive been googling for the past days and still not getting clear answers. you really helped me a lot! Thank you so much!
Your videos make more sense than my science teacher.
Thank you! Great teaching! 👍🏼👍🏼and I appreciate people like you, taking the time to do this video. God bless!
finally i found a clear, simple and precise information about it. Thank you a million !!!!!
Thanks. Simple to understand and the history lesson is amazing.
Hi Paul, it's a very informative video. Most of the comments are from Philippines 😂 like mine. Your video tells me to go ahead and use my UPS (sine wave 220v 50Hz) as the frequency here is 220v 60Hz.
Equipment that uses a motor that has a non adjustable speed control such as a tape deck will run at the wrong speed if the frequency is off. My vintage Technics turntable has strobe speed control with marks for both 50 and 60Hz.
Goid answer, plus filters were engineered for ideal filtering at the design hertz. Difference between 50 and 60 is 20%, many electrical components design tolerance is 20% do you on the edge of staying within design (Though some devices are labeled and designed to worry k at 60 or 50hz,so that are okay)
Hi thank goodness I found this channel 🙏
just to confirm as my subwoofer is 50hz and will have no issue plugging at 60hz
Thanks so much for ur reply 😊
True for amps and most electronics but, some equipment such as washing machines don't work correctly, I think that drain pumps at 50hz are unwilling to operate at 60 hz in the Philippines Basically most motors will run faster, some not at all because they are Synchronous won't run at all I have read.. Would you agree ?
I don't think it matters much with solely electronic equipment. You must understand that hertz can only translate on mechanical equipment that depend on rotary where heating can be factor in reducing the life of the equipment. Clocks/ timers are probably the only issues since running higher or lower than the source can make it less accurate but it will never kill your device or make it less efficient with time.
It used to be with reel to reel tape recorders and grammophones that it did matter the Hz. I had a Sony TC-102 that had a spare spindle for the motor, the 60 and another for 50 Hz. the latter of course had a larger diametre as to drive the correct speed difference. Today, most evrything works on both frequencies. Computers, iPhones, etc. all run on either frequency. The 50 vs 60 Hz was prinararily for motors for clocks and audio equipment. Again it is only a ten beat per second difference between the two. Now 25 Hy shant work in either, that frequency is just too low for modern appliances. It is great for railway electrificatzion however (single phase). Now in my country, switzerland, as well as Germany, Austria, liechtenstein, and Sweden, as the railways use a 'Drehstrom' or three phase system, single phase is tapped for what is one/third of 50 Hz, 16,666667or 16.2/3rd Hz. Hz. One can see the incandescent lighting flicker at this frequency. Both on the rolling stock, and the wayside signalling. Today, with LED, maybe there is some inverter as to convert to either 50/60 Hz.
Well!.. I've been in electronics since the dinosaur days but I never knew _this_ about Tesla s reasoning with the AC frequency!
Thank You Paul for this anecdotal information, it proves that we always live and learn, even at a ripe old age.
Keep them videos coming.
There's a great read on the subject called Empires of Light. Absolutely worth reading if you like a good story.
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio i'm here also in Dubai, if i buy aircon or washing machine 50hz 220v here in Dubai and use it in the Philippines 60hz 220v is it possible?
@@lordalmighty4282 The AC and washing machine motors are going to run at slightly different speeds but it shouldn't be a problem.
60 is used for a lot more things (think clocks using 60 rather than 100) because it's divisible by a lot more numbers than 3. In 50 it's 1,2,3,5,10 and 25 but with 60 it's 1,2,3,4,5,6,10,12,15,20,30 and 60. Evenly divisible numbers was always better in the olden times dividing things like eggs or apples.
Just wondering, will a 230v 50hz amplifier bought from UK work on 220v 50hz power in another country? So hz is same, just voltage is reduced by 10v. Anyone please?
It should, if the equipment is designed to work +/- x%. So, if it can handle 10% of 230V, that’s 23 volts, which puts the operating range from 207-253V.
Thanks a lot. I'm from Philippines. I just buy a 50 hertz sound mixer in UAE and planning to return IT because of the herzt issue. Timely information
Have u tried already in the ph sir?
@@elaigzs3892 not yet Sir. I am still in the quarantine facility in Manila. 2 DAYS more to go
@@elaigzs3892 but I THINK it will work Sir, because I just checked my denon AVR I bought 13 years ago and it is 50 hertz. Still working until now without problem
@@oldspider9216 He said 50 hz equipment can use at 60hz all day long but, 60hz equipment use to 50hz is not a good idea.
how about a 50hz ref or washing machine on a 60 hz system. will it damage the appliance?
Did you get the answer? I suppose to ask that too.
Don't. Your appliance won't last long as the 50hz motor inside the refrigerator or washing machine will spin faster but produce more heat thus shortening its lifespan.
Will the use of a transformer fix the issue to mitigate this issue and correct/adjust the operating frequency?
Ive been trying to find someone to answer this for me as well. I have a 220v 50hz washing machine that was really expensive, and I’m moving to the US which is 60hz, and would hate to try and sell for nothing.
Some manufacturers (such as my Martin Logan speakers) booby-trap their 60Hz products not to work on 50Hz power- even if it uses a switch-mode power supply. This is to stop people from buying the component in America and shipping it to Europe to escape the VAT.
The vat still gets paid on import.
Who told you that goods imported from USA or any another country to Europe are exempt from VAT !!!!! Not exempt from taxs, the tax is to be paid on total amount of shipment *(item price+shipping price)* upon arrival at the airport or port .
@@N79417 Yep. Vat is unavoidable unless your a criminal risking incarceration.
Question: I bought thru ebay a vintage Panasonic flip clock from the 70s. In the USA it ran on 110V & 60Hz. Here in Europe (Italy) on the other hand we have 230V 50Hz. Is there some sort of converter/inverter/adapter that could do the trick to make it work correctly? Thanks
A step down power transformer can get you the 120v but there's no easy way to convert down the 60 hz to 50.
@@sfs2040 thank you for your reply! Now I'm in the US again and I'll be able to connect those vintage Panasonic clocks soon on their original power grid. This time on the other hand I will have to figure out how to hook up the Panasonic vintage radios that are identical but meant for the European electricity grid. In the future I'll post a video regarding this specific radio clock model from the 70s/80s
If I were to get an electric shock, 120 v. 60 hz. is much better than 120 vdc. Why you ask? 60 hz. means that the voltage has to pass through zero to - than again through zero to + meaning when it goes through zero, you can let go. 120 vdc is constant. You can't let go!! Much more dangerous. I have an old Crosley tube radio that's rated for 25 hertz. Works just fine on 60 hertz.
You are wrong. AC is much more dangerous than DC. 60 hertz is oscillating too fast for you to let go anyways. The reason why AC is more dangerous is because the peak of the wave is higher than the rms. For example, 120 volt rms has a 170 volt peak. The sine wave can deliver the same amount of power as the 120 volt dc, even though it has 170 volt peaks. So, you If you touched 120 volt DC, you would realize that it barely hurt compared to 120 volt AC.
You have an amazing talent at story telling and explaining things, I mean David Attenborough level (the guy from the BBC animals/planet).
Great Video! Some of the 50Hz vs 60 Hz is the 60 seconds in a minute for the USA and the imperial system, and everyone using the metric system going with 50Hz with the 1,2,5 steps they use. 20Hz isn't enough cycles and there wasn't a point in going to 100hz when 50hz worked well.
Good info, so how about EU 50 Hz motors working on 60 Hz in us? Would that mean that it will turn fester?
With 110 volts itll turn so slow that ull shit urself
Jungle 220V outlet here in Northern Brazil, andPeru
I need help i have a 50hz 230v. Corded type brush motor power tool(dewalt). Can use this in a 60Hz. 230v. Supply.?
Yes, very likely. These kinds of devices do not typically rely upon the frequency for their speed.
the only problem when using equipment made for 50Hz with 60Hz line voltage is that transformer will have around 2.3 times greater losses inside it's iron core. This means a few percent more power consumption and a bit warmer transformer. With high end equipment with greatly oversized transformers this should not be a problem.
EDIT: that holds if magnetic flux does not change.
why are the transformers oversized?
@@FooBar89 If you have a bigger transformer than needed, you have much more energy stored in magnetic field inside it's core and that improves characteristics of amplifiers etc. It is also probably most effective way of adding weight to a device so it feels more premium
@@gasperbregar630 how and why does it improve the characteristics of an amplifier?
@@FooBar89 when you play music at high levels amplifier needs a lot of current and larger transformer can give it more easily. It improves peak power as the power supply voltage doesn't collapse as much.
@@gasperbregar630hello sir i hVe a air dryer that am trying to usein europe can i ask you to help me to choice the correct V and Hz converter ? My best regards
I bought a Jura s8 coffee maker, 230v 50hz 1450w. I’m also going to buy a step up power converter rated for 2000. So your saying the hz it’s not going to matter? Since the 50 hz transformer is larger.
thank you for a great explanation
what about motors ?
Motor designed for 50Hz will spin 20% faster on 60Hz electricity
2:44 The 'industrialist' in the Edison camp was J.P. Morgan. Actually he was more a 'financier'.
morgan started to finance teslas tower but stopped halfway through which is why it never got built (free electricity) this is NW being realized as doable. Morgan with 2 other bankers took their paid congressmen into session on Dec.the 24th and initiated a bill to restart the federal income tax, it was of course never passed but he still took advantage of it and took our money which he used to loan back to us and slowly feed the government its share until he had enough to let it go before someone found out what he was doing. so with that said it was never made into a law and we've been paying our taxes freely.
Same thing with Aircon Capacitor? Can I use 50 Hz Capacitor to a 60Hz supply?
It will not work with a turntable that has an AC motor. I moved from the US tu Europe and ended up needing to change the belt pulley to one with a larger diameter. And it was painful :) Electrically it is fine because the manufacturer, like PS Audio, platforms globally on 50Hz. But mechanically it took quite a bit of work to get it working.
Hi I bought a 10,000 W power inverter off of eBay years ago I’ve been using a mini split unit on it for years. I bought a new power inverter 12,000 and one off of eBay I wanted to check if it was pure sine wave , so I bought an oscilloscope. Lo and behold the new inverter was a pure sine wave but to my disbelief my old 10,000 W inverter. It was pure sign but it only puts out 50 Hz. Have I been hurting my mini split all these years? Thanks
My problem is my washing machine bought in other country in the specification at the back is is 220v/50-60hz, but when i go to phil whch is 220v/60hz i notice my WM not draining, i found out the specs of drain motor is 50hz. What can I do?? Only the drain motor is my problem about frequency.
use smps, then it doesn't matter what voltage or frequency you got, it can be designed for any
ThinkLearnSolve can you explain? Can I use a 60z DVD player in a 50hz country?
Wooooooooow finally I can bring my roadgear 260 home. Tnx old men thank you so much!
John Pierpont Morgan's mansion on Madison Avenue and 36th Street had an Edison DC system in his house. The generator was very nearby, maybe in the basement.
I have the same question but other equipment. Is it safe or how it performs using 50hz inverter Mig Welding machine on 60hz supply will it perform the same on 50hz vs. 60hz. Thanks in advance.
can i plug audio receiver rated 230v-50hz to a 220v-60hz? will be no problem with voltage under power ?
Thank you for the information!!!
i am trying to purchase a Flex PSU for my mini ITX Build, and almost all PSU from aliexpress are 50Hz and i live where my power is 60Hz.
I recently purchase "Dewalt DCB115 230v @ 50 hertz" battery charger in UAE by mistake.
And I am using this in Philippines which is using 60 hertz not 50 hertz.
My question is, is it ok to use it in Philippines?
Hello, what converter that doesn't break the bank that you would recommend. To convert 110v/50hz to 120v/60hz or 110v/60hz?
I rarely find better and clearer explanations of electricity related things than your video. What if the frequency is much higher? Say 400Hz. I just bought a new pure sine wave dc to ac inverter and found that it does not give me 60Hz as I wanted but something close to 300-400 Hz with a load. (When there is no load, the frequency is erratic and changes all over the place some where between 600-900 Hz.
it depends.... if the power supply of the amplifier is a switch mode then 50hz/60hz is ok. But some other manufacturer still use linear power supply which uses transformer to stepdown the voltage then it's not OK because the transformer might overheat until it will burn.... switch mode power supply is much more efficient but causes so much noise that will affect the amplifier that's why other manufacturer still use linear power supply. nasagot ko na tanong mo....
Great informative video.
I live in the USA.
We have 120v 60hz.
I own several miele appliances, (German made for USA).
The one i am having problems with is a washing machine rater 220v 50 hz.
The machine does everything, but draining.
The drain pump is magnetic 220v 50hz. It won't drain.
Why is that?.
The machine is hikes to a step up transformer.
Please help
Every else works .
Sir, I need to know if I can use microwave 220/230V 50Hz in the Ph.. Im here in italy and I need to use supply 50hz in Manila.. Do I need to buy transformer?? Tnx
I was lived in Brazil (60hz) and I changed to Italy. I carried my hair cut machine and it doesn't work here in Italy because works only on 60hz.
Nicola Tesla was responsible for the 60Hz offerings from Westinghouse, but it was largely Larry Hammond the clock and later electric organ maker who was responsible for standardizing a solid 60Hz on the nascent American power grid. When he was a clockmaker he designed a synchronous motor than ran on 60Hz and sent free clocks to every power station in operation, telling them that if they kept their output at precisely 60Hz, the clock would keep perfect time. There was a court battle with General Electric over the synchronous motor which Hammond won after showing the judge that power stations used Hammond clocks. Hammond's motor wouldn't start automatically when power was applied and needed a physical push, so you would know there was a power outage instead of assuming the wrong time was correct and he saw this as a major advantage for worker bees that might miss their train if the time was off. When Hammond's synchronous clock motor patent was undermined by the discovery that the clock in the town square in Cologne, Germany used the same technology, he ended up switching to making electric organs which used synchronous motors in the tone generators and relied on the 60Hz line frequency for their tuning.
As an extension to Paul's answer... Avionics and military systems use 400Hz AC which allows you to shrink the iron content of transformers by roughly 80% over the needs at 60Hz. Running 400Hz equipment on 60Hz will smoke it immediately, but using 60Hz transformers on 400Hz power makes them run cool as a cucumber.
It is sad that today, power companies are less vigilant in keeping in the frequency at exactly 60 Hz. I have a few clocks that use the power frequency as the reference and they no longer keep accurate time.
@@swinde They never were precisely on frequency. Varying frequency is part and parcel of management of the power supply. Load on the system varies through the day with a peak in the early evening. The supplier needs to manage the system to keep voltage within reasonable bounds. Hydro Tasmania told me that they do work to manage the average frequency for each 24 hour period to be exact to keep things like electric clocks using synchronous motors accurate.
My coffee machine from express barista is 50 Hz i brought it from UK to Saudi Arabia 60Hz and its working fine no problem at all since 2017 ( 6 years) so far
Sir what happen the generator set is 220v 50hz and load was 230v 60hz
How does using 50-hertz equipment on a 60-hertz system work, here's why I'm asking. I bought a $500 cold welder on Amazon only to find out when I got it that it has an EU plug which I cant use here. 220 volt 50 hertz 20 amps. to convert that to 60 hertz I would need 40 amps or 2 - 115 volt lines 20 amps each (but again we have 60 hertz, not 50 hertz). so I'm going to buy a 220 volt 50-hertz gas generator (now I won't need to find a big power source and run it through a transformer) I came here to find out if I can use this EU generator 220 volt 50 hertz, 25 amp say on a 220 volt 60 hertz 40 amp dryer? now that makes sense, what am i not getting here or am i right, thanks
Really you are a great guy who can explain excellently..................
Thank you for this information!
I need help again sir i have a 50hz 230volts.corded type dual action polisher for car bought in france.can use this in a 60hz 220volts supply in the philippines?
very nice briefing about 50&60 cycle HZ
thanks for the quick answer! :)
Will a 220v 60hz machine work at 220v 50hz?
Will the lifespan of a 50hz equipment used in 60hz remains the same or reduced?
Sir I have a Denon amplifier I bought 13 years ago from UAE. Still working without problem. Hope it helps
Sir hbt my 50hz fridge.. How to use it in Philippines,. Thanks
matanghari Iglesias It will increase it’s temperature.
Any 50Hz appliances from China including toasters and Rice cookers in the Philippines that uses 60Hz have no problem of using it.
How about 50 hz digital timer switch and analog timer switch can i use it here in the Philippines?
I have 6hz air dryer i want to use it in italy 60hz what if i buy a cheap powerstation ?
A 50hz power transformer should be just fine at 60hz. The inverse may not be true, the transformer might overheat. However some equipment is rated for both.
Tesla aside, 60hz was logical because it makes synchronous motor electric clocks easy. (Actually not really a problem at 50hz, just change the gearing....)
Hi.Computer Power supply is transformer right.? So can i use a 50hertz PSU in 60hz electricity
Cause here in philippines we have 60hertz.
how about 50hertz powertools can i used in 60hertz
So if I have an appliance that works on 50hz, and I move to a country with a 60hz frequency, how can I reduce the frequency from my power supply from 60HZ to 50HZ? Reason is, my washer/dryer machine refuses to work on 60HZ and throws an error code on the display. And I can't find a way to fix it, please help
No need it is working well here in philippine but if you have a doubt use AVR
I buy a 3000w inverter it 60hz but my country is 50hz please advice me what to do.it cost 310us x tax a d I love it but it can't work here
Is it possible for equipment made in say Japan (50Hz psu obviously switchable or auto switching) to sound different here in North America (60Hz)? Could it just be because of the voltage difference? Again the switching power supply thing.
I think it's possible, because Japan itself is the unique country, they have 2 different grid in di different frequency (Western part use 60, Eastern Part use 50). Most of the appliances sold there can be used on both frequency
For Voltage level, Japan is 100V
Awesome communication skills. With much thanks.
You are correct that Taiwan uses 60HZ but Taiwan is manufacturing country that the product intended for china or Hongkong or other countries that uses 50hz were maybe sold deliberately to local market w/ cheaper prize. I buy the Digital clock from Taiwan Superstore as a gift but when I arrived in my country the clock is moving fast. Do not use also an AC voltage regulator of different frequencies. if you use a 50hz AC regulator to a 60hz frequency you will burn the house that uses that regulator. To my experience in servicing electronics equipment with motors use only the wright frequency to guaranty it will work normally for a long time.
Can't thank you enough. Cheers.
240V at 60Hz will transfer more energy per second than 240V at 50Hz. The transformer will be effectively a higher VA . Would that mean the transformer was transferring 20% more energy at the higher frequency?
It can take 20% more, but if using the same voltage it might only deliver a less more voltage if it was saturated at 50Hz.
Loved the video. The question that brought me here relates to a mini split ac system sold in India for 600 brand new that the same manufacturer sells here for 4 times that. The only difference in the spec sheets is 50 hz vs 60 hz. Thanks to your clarification I believe that if a transformer at 50 hz is over built for 60 hz then a motor will be also as they are essentially the same thing. Thanks so much.
The motor will likely run faster at 60hz but I doubt it would damage anything
Hi sir...ill just try to ask about tools that i have here in the philippines ryobi sliding miter saw sir at 50hz.do i use this tools at 60hz here in the Philippines?thanks u sir have a good day..
Permission to comment i want share my personal experience a 50hz receiver will work on 60 hz power supply i bought my harman/kardon receiever by mistake and impulse buying cause it was on a good sale which include speaker my mistake is i didnt check that the power supply is 50hz it works fine on me when i shipped it on my home which uses a 60hz power my receiver damaged not by power supply but with the cats urine cause they slleep on the top of my unit with open grills on it. Im from Philippines by the way
So I can use a smartwatch that's from China that's 50 hz in Philippines where we use 60 hz? Is that right?
mymidgetbae Smart watch is battery operated. You mean Smart Plugs.
mymidgetbae You can use smart plugs from China and use it in the Philippines with Euro/US to US plug adapter and no problem.
Smartwatches are powered by a battery that is charged by a charger that was designed especially on the assumption that one who uses a smartwatch is likely to travel around the world. Therefore, the fine print on the charger will say 100-240V 50-60 Hz on the AC input. The DC output rating on any smartwatch charger worth half its salt will read 5V DC at 3.0 A; if the smartwatch is fancy enough to charge using USB-C, a charger worth half its salt will give a rating (and darned well deliver on it) of 20V DC at 5.0 A.
Can I power a 120v 60hz transformer with 230v 50hz🤔🤔
Can i oparet 60Hz device 50hz power supply
If we only understood the true power of 3 6 and 9 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Oh the anger of Edison was only matched by the anger of Morgan when he found out what Tesla was really working on 😂
Edison and Morgan should of been taken to the Hypogeum cavern at Malta so the 111 Hertz could calm their thirst. The entrance to the cavern can then be bricked up.
@@DG-qq6gz Who the heck uses 111 Hz?
So many don't realize that Tesla was the one who was the founder of our electrical grid. The thing about AC that beat out DC, was AC was capable of long distance transmission over power lines at high voltage. Watts = Volts x Amps. Power can be transmitted at low currents with less loss at high voltage over long distances, then transformed down to a lower voltage and still keep the amount of power in watts from where it was produced at the other end. On the other hand, DC can't be transformed from one voltage to another without some sophisticated circuitry that converts it to a form of AC to use a step-up and a step-down transformer.
More importantly and why AC is better is that current and voltage losses over a distance is far far less on AC transmission lines versus DC transmission lines.
Why don't we have 4 phase or more phase then there if more phases are more efficient. Simple it's mrd to transmit more phase over a distance, I home how big and complicated power poles would be with 6 phases, that's 6 conductors/transmission wires/cables, each at least 10 feet apart (required distance between conductors to keep 100,000plus volt power transmission lines from arcing between conductors/wires and between you and wires when it rains for example). Plus imagine how muchire weight adding one or more cibducters add the transmission power poles.
Hi I have a 210 - 240 volts, 50 hz washing machine that i bought in the middle east. Can i use it here in the Philippines with 60 hz electricity supply.
Its always a bad idea to use 50hz on 60hz or vice versa on equipment with rotary motion. With time your equipment becomes less efficient.
But to answer your question, the washing machine will probably run fine since its not drawing more power than what it suppose to manage. The problem is using 60hz appliances on 50hz source supply can damage your equipment over time.
Same issue XD
What about a smart plug rated 100-250v at 50hz on 240v at 60hz?
Hello I have a question can I plug a European 240v 50Hz AV receiver into a 240v 60Hz USA outlet?
You can not. Simplified, European 240V has 1 hot and 1 neutral, US 240 has 2 hot and 1 neutral.
Sir plss help me.can i use circular saw with 50hz with 220v in Philippines in with 60hz with220v
sir i have table saw 1500watts 230volts 50hz. it possible use in 60hz philippines without problem?
DC is better than AC for transmission with high voltage because of less reactive losses and no skinneffect present, the only problem is how to cheaply and easily transform the voltage and that's the reason we use AC instead of DC, HVDC is the standard for transmissions for more than 500km.
If u use 60hz equipment to 50hz just for 15 minutes a day also can damage ????? The equipment or work slowly ????? Plz answer for this i want to know it’s important
There shouldn't be any problem. The only issue might be if you are using a turntable or motorized device that depends on the frequency. But, no worries on damage.,
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I have a equipment called ” NutriMill” 110v and 60hz 450w i am afraid to use it cz of my country 220v and 50 hz and i bring converter “15 Amp” but they said here it is dangerous to use even in a small time also for that i want to know if i could use it just 10 to 15 min a week ??? Cz they said can cz fire for overuse. Or maybe equipment not work at all. So i put it away
Great video. It came up cause i had a similar question how ever Im planing on buy this low lay fog machine it was build to EU Specs 230AC 50Hz the machine consists of a 2500w heater that create fog and a A/C unit motor and compressor. Im familiar with us electricity 2 hots, ground and neutral but I'm not sure if would be safe to wire the machine to the 2 hot and ground. is this how it should be wired.
just trying to be safe...any input would be appreciated.
In EU this would be Hot+Neutral. In US it will be Hot+Hot. Make sure that the when wiring Hot+Hot; they are different phases.
Utility AC is 3-phase, 1-neutral, 1-ground. (L-1, L-2, L-3, N, G). What you see in a typical house is 2-phase, 1-neutral, 1-ground (L-1, L-2, N, G).
So when I say “hot+hot” in US, you should be using L-1 (120V) + L-2 (120V).
The Hz factor will mean that the pump/fan will rotate (or run) at a higher speed than designed. If designed for 50Hz and ran at 60Hz - it will work, but it will degrade over time likely from operating at a higher speed than designed.
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What about 220v-50hz fridge can work on 60hz power supply
I'm going to connect a 50hz window Air Conditioner unit to a 60 Hz power supply. My fingers are cross. Your saying there won't be an issue?
I assume you're just being a wise ass and that's fine. But just to be clear, no, that's not fine because it has a motor.
@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio Don't assume, just understand that everyone is not as knowledgeable as you. I wasn't being a wise ass. Anyways, I found out the hard way. Today I connected my 50 Hz AC unit to a 60 Hz power supply. It ran for about 1-2 Minutes. Then it overloaded our generator causing it to shut completely down. Online I read 50 Hz appliances could work with 60 Hz so I gave it a shot. Now at least I know the reason behind the failure was the motor thanks for the reply.
@@idontusegmail7102 My sincere apologies for assuming.
There is one problem when you have a 50Hz device pluged in a 60Hz power line. If the device has any kind of timer or clock, its hour is going to advance due to the additional 10Hz. Those timers or clocks use the power line frequency in their circuit to calculate 1 second. In the case of the 50Hz device, it divides the frequency by 50 to obtain 1 second. So if it is plugged in 60Hz, it is going to divide 60Hz by 50 causing a lack of precision.
I mean... Using mains frequency to calculate time isn't a great or accurate way to calculate time in general. It's not always 50Hz. Depending on the load and location, you might even end up with ±2Hz
At least, everything I've worked with used DC and internal or external crystals
Question. So I will be getting a LCD 2018 LG TV that is from Europe. The 50UK6500PLA to be exact. The details of the TV says it has TM100 (Refresh Rate 50Hz) and the American version of the TV is TruMotion 120 (Refresh Rate 60Hz). But on thing is, the European Power details, it says "AC 100~240V 50-60Hz". So it looks like it is still capable for 60Hz. So I will be using Roku, N64, etc. that I have here in the United States. So will those devices be slower as the TV is from Europe but my devices are made for the North America?
TVs in Europe have only PAL (4.43 Mhz colour) and/or SECAM (4.4 and 44.2 MHz mixed colour) analog TV tuner that can’t change to NTSC colour system and System M (4.5 MHz carrier) mostly use in NTSC (3.58 Mhz colour) countries, PAL-M in Brazil (3.575 MHz color) and PAL-N (3.582 MHz color but 625 lines).
BUY A TV IN UAE OR SAUDI ARABIA. THAT TV HAS MULTIPLE NTSC-M, PAL-B/G, I, D/K and SECAM-B/G, D/K analog TV tuners.
TVs sold in Saudi Arabia or UAE also have:
Colour system selection: AUTO, NTSC 3.58, NTSC 4.43, PAL, SECAM
sound carrier system selection: M (4.5 MHz), B/G (5.5 MHz), I (6 MHz) and D/K (6.5 MHz)
Some analog TV tuner have International TV tuning frequency: America (Philippines, South Korea, Taiwan, Burma), Asia/Western Europe, Russia, Indonesia/New Zealand, China, Hong Kong/UK, South Africa, Australia. (That function only for Samsung TVs).
JVC multisystem NTSC/PAL/SECAM analog TV sets sold in Saudi Arabia also on System M that Mostly uses US frequency, and system B/G,I and D/K mostly uses Europe frequency.
Not a frequency issue:
Chile uses NTSC and 220V at 50Hz
Saudi Arabia uses PAL and 220V at 60Hz
TVs sold in South America supports NTSC 3.58, PAL 4.43, PAL 3.582 (PAL-N), PAL 3.575 (PAL-M) and SECAM (PAL 4.4 and 4.42) on Video AV inputs only, Component also uses both 50 and 60Hz, for analog TV tuner that uses only 4.5 MHz sound carrier: NTSC (525 lines, 3.579 MHz color), PAL-M (525 lines, 3.575 Mhz color) and PAL-N (625 lines, 3.582 Mhz color).
LG TVs sold in the UK only have analog PAL-I (6 MHz sound carrier, 8 MHz bandwidth: UHF CH 21 - 69) but can’t change sound carrier systems: B/G (5.5) and D/K (6.5) nor NTSC-M (4.5 Mhz) nor SECAM.
Video inputs supports NTSC, SECAM and PAL, 50 Hz 60Hz refresh rate for component and HDMI.
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Does that still apply if you have electric motors like in type decks and turntable run of AC I don't think so they would be a speed differential
Synchronous motors that use the frequency of the mains to run at the correct speed come in 50 and 60 Hz variants. Most audiophile turntable motors are DC and have a clock whose frequency is determined by a quartz crystal.
There is a lot of gear that doesn't use synchronise Motors turntable and tape decks and I'm not even sure if a synchronise motor would behave the same if it's reading 60hz and was designed for 50 Hz.
@@johnsweda2999 If you go back half a century, may be less, many high end TT had a strobe and a control so that you could adjust the TT rotational speed to the exact requirements. I would imagine that these were essential on the Pirate Radio ships of the 60's and 70's.
It was Edison and Westinghouse that where battling Tesla was Westinghousee's employee
This is not correct. Westinghouse bought Tesla Patients for the AC system for $1,000,000. A massive price for it time. Westinghouse was on the AC side. I believe that it was J P Morgan that was on the DC side.
Westinghouse was on the AC side but he was competing against Edison in any case.
@@yziib3578 your right somewhat but you need to follow the money Tesla didn't have the money Westinghousee' did Tesla didn't get that much money he died broke in New York hotel, JP Morgen was investing in Tesla's electricity experiments then drop him because of cost. He was building giant towers with high current trying to make a electricity delivery system that didn't need wires. Westinghouse built the Niagara power station Tesla designed it.
It’s so crazy that Japan is essentially half 50hz & half 60hz.
Tesla the genius mystic King!
Edison the brilliant lunatic Douche!
God bless you PS Audio. Keep talking & building.
This DC "weakness" is not so true any more due to high power switching technology. Because we can build 500kV transistor with that it allows voltage step up and down with DC just like your witching mode power supply only in massive voltage. Frankly the situation turn 180 degree with high power transistor. With far less transmission loss at 500kV or even 1MV and you don't need transformer which is expensive bulk of coils and safer because it is transistor base you don't need hard switch to switch off it can shut of "soft" which leads to easier maintenance and upgrade. Many country develop their power system later then 2000s use DC for long distance transmission and convert into AC because all electrical appliance are build with AC.
In the UK we have high voltage DC in some locations between long distance points and between for instance the UK and France, as it makes life easy from a technical aspect. However generally at the national grid and local points it is AC and one of those reasons besides what has already mentioned is that a transformer can be used. There are other good reasons to use AC but that is for another time.
@@madcockney The Basslink interconnect between Tasmania and mainland Australia is DC. It's a "400kV DC electricity interconnector that allows the trade of electricity between Tasmania and the National Electricity Market. The interconnector is rated to transmit 500 megawatts (MW) of energy on a continuous basis in either direction and up to 630MW export from Tasmania for limited periods." It also carried the signal that resulted in the words you are reading here :-)
Why can’t you run 60Hz devices at 50Hz? Even if it’s 100v or 110v AC 50Hz?