Just discovered your channel. I enjoyed the artist perspective of the discussion. I’ve been rereading this run recently myself. It definitely holds up.
It's amazing to think they produced such a masterful run with a strict monthly schedule. Imagine if they didn't have Jim Shooter breathing down their necks and more time to polish the book. True pioneers. I was 11 when I was buying this run off the racks and it blew me away.
@@inkXscribe Hey, I love the artwork by all three of you! By the way, that default, Miller DD background was a poster. I purchased it when it first came out, decades ago. Still own it. Thanks again, guys!
I was reading these Miller Daredevils when they came out in the early 80s. And even as a 14 year old - it was obvious to me that this was something that hadn't been done before stylistically & visually. It felt revolutionary. I couldn't wait for the next issues. Thanks for the great discussion and visual examples. BTW - I'm re-reading all those issues now - for the first time (on my old man Kindle). Still impressive.
One of my favorite comic runs! And now it seems like a good bunch of others agree, something I was already planning to re-read! I guess my top favorite is Chris Claremont & Dave Cockrum then John Byrne X-Men. Also mentioned in this vid the Doug Moench & Paul Gulacy run of Master of Kung Fu. A bunch more for sure. I love the storytelling and the art from Daredevil! Interesting to see the pencils that Klaus had to work with, he's a powerhouse!!! Also every character in the series is so good!
Paul Gulacy's art-work on Master of Kung-Fu was a cinematic experience,when i was I attending the Phila Art institute I showed my fellow art students and art instructors these comics.I was scoffed at by the instructors,but,the students LOVED the story and art.So,one day i challenged 2 of my instructors to draw a 4 page comic and a cover,I write a script for those 4 pages ( something real simple tho ) and it didn't have to be perfect,just completed in a certain time frame. Completing the cover was easy ( even tho I rejected their cover sketches several times ) long story short,they respected comic artists very much after this experiment.Seeing how much time and effort goes into just 4 pages of comic art,plus the cover. They thought it would be easy,peasy.
@@kerry-j4m Very cool. Thanks for sharing. I had only 1 great art teacher in the 6 years of art school (4 years were high school, 2 years of art college.) It takes a combo of skills but spending quality time with students should be number one. He even came up to me years later at a comic con when I was working for DC on Aquaman. He was so happy to see me following my dream, and it was such a pleasure to see and talk with him again.
@@PeterPalmiotti Oh,COOL you're a pro artist,how long have you been a pro artist ??? How long were you on Aquaman ???? And what project are you on now ????
I don't think anyone has ever accused Janson of making things more palatable. In a career full of highs, Sin City is one. I'm a difficult judge as I love it all. This was a difficult watch for wanting to be in the discussion ;)
I think the comparison of Klaus's guides with the digital corresponding page is a false test of the approach. Klaus knew that 100Y would be muted on newsprint. It's why 95% of reprints look awful. This is what Jose Villarubia was attempting to mitigate on the Absolute Swamp Thing
Yeah the comparison isn't close to how the comic looked new, sure the newsprint has aged but not by much. I picked up the run new and because its a favorite I remember pretty clearly that the colors never NEVER looked that bright. ...ack, that's awful. LOL
Just discovered your channel. I enjoyed the artist perspective of the discussion. I’ve been rereading this run recently myself. It definitely holds up.
It's amazing to think they produced such a masterful run with a strict monthly schedule. Imagine if they didn't have Jim Shooter breathing down their necks and more time to polish the book. True pioneers.
I was 11 when I was buying this run off the racks and it blew me away.
Really enjoying going through these videos
Thank you! 🙏
Great discussion, guys. The side by side images are excellent as well as that cover Map timeline at 31:37. This video needs more views! Thanks again
Much appreciated!!
@@inkXscribe Hey, I love the artwork by all three of you! By the way, that default, Miller DD background was a poster. I purchased it when it first came out, decades ago. Still own it. Thanks again, guys!
Thank you so much!
It’s a beautiful poster. You have impeccable taste! 😁
I was reading these Miller Daredevils when they came out in the early 80s. And even as a 14 year old - it was obvious to me that this was something that hadn't been done before stylistically & visually. It felt revolutionary. I couldn't wait for the next issues. Thanks for the great discussion and visual examples. BTW - I'm re-reading all those issues now - for the first time (on my old man Kindle). Still impressive.
Thank you for sharing! It must have been amazing reading these comics month-to-month as they were coming out!
One of my favorite comic runs! And now it seems like a good bunch of others agree, something I was already planning to re-read! I guess my top favorite is Chris Claremont & Dave Cockrum then John Byrne X-Men. Also mentioned in this vid the Doug Moench & Paul Gulacy run of Master of Kung Fu. A bunch more for sure.
I love the storytelling and the art from Daredevil! Interesting to see the pencils that Klaus had to work with, he's a powerhouse!!! Also every character in the series is so good!
Paul Gulacy's art-work on Master of Kung-Fu was a cinematic experience,when i was I attending the Phila Art institute I showed my fellow art students and art instructors these comics.I was scoffed at by the instructors,but,the students LOVED the story and art.So,one day i challenged 2 of my instructors to draw a 4 page comic and a cover,I write a script for those 4 pages ( something real simple tho ) and it didn't have to be perfect,just completed in a certain time frame. Completing the cover was easy ( even tho I rejected their cover sketches several times ) long story short,they respected comic artists very much after this experiment.Seeing how much time and effort goes into just 4 pages of comic art,plus the cover. They thought it would be easy,peasy.
Amazing! Stories about snooty art school teachers are common, but they rarely have a happy ending like this one did! 😆 Thanks for sharing!
@@inkXscribe You're welcome.
@@kerry-j4m Very cool. Thanks for sharing. I had only 1 great art teacher in the 6 years of art school (4 years were high school, 2 years of art college.) It takes a combo of skills but spending quality time with students should be number one. He even came up to me years later at a comic con when I was working for DC on Aquaman. He was so happy to see me following my dream, and it was such a pleasure to see and talk with him again.
@@PeterPalmiotti Oh,COOL you're a pro artist,how long have you been a pro artist ??? How long were you on Aquaman ???? And what project are you on now ????
You are correct about Elektra Lives Again. Best Miller art job. Story, not so sure but I lead with the art too.
I don't think anyone has ever accused Janson of making things more palatable. In a career full of highs, Sin City is one. I'm a difficult judge as I love it all. This was a difficult watch for wanting to be in the discussion ;)
Maybe we’ll have to have you on as a guest for our next Frank Miller episode! 😉
B. Kriegstien
Master race
I think the comparison of Klaus's guides with the digital corresponding page is a false test of the approach. Klaus knew that 100Y would be muted on newsprint. It's why 95% of reprints look awful. This is what Jose Villarubia was attempting to mitigate on the Absolute Swamp Thing
Yeah the comparison isn't close to how the comic looked new, sure the newsprint has aged but not by much. I picked up the run new and because its a favorite I remember pretty clearly that the colors never NEVER looked that bright. ...ack, that's awful. LOL
Not any jim lee. Dating your self
Geof DA-rrow. like Arrow (he used to sign that way, a D with and arrow).