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The culture around tech evolved from being counter-corporate to becoming just another corporate monster. Tech bros started off as the antithesis of Wall Street greed, yet ended up playing the same game with VC funding, IPOs, and ultimately prioritizing profits over innovation. The cycle just repeats in different industries.
The ENTIRE purpose of telling everyone to learn to code was precisely FOR the purpose of increasing labor market saturation so they could pay developers less and lay them off more easily. "Learn to Code" actually worked PERFECTLY, and as intended - for the powerful corporations, that is. It was never about helping uplift regular folk, only beating down a small segment of the population (nerdy programmers) who, through a fluke, had accidentally gotten too powerful and forgotten their place
On the flipside, at least now more people now have a better idea of how the technology that they use everyday works now... right? Ehhh, who am I kidding?
@@MyBinaryLife I’m glad it benefitted you, and many others, but the macro picture - and the motives of those who pushed the agenda, remain evident. Labor is an input component subject to supply and demand like everything else, and “learn to code” was an initiative paid for by industry coffers, not workers unions
They told truck drivers to learn to code. That's exactly what I did and of course the minute I get some IT and programming certifications then the whole bottom falls out of the market... At this point I don't even want to waste my time learning another skill by the time I learn it AI will take over it anyway. Maybe I'll learn how to repair robot or something 😂😂😂 Update got my first job in IT! Still possible to go the boot camp and project route. I think making a Roku app for my church helped a lot in the interview.
When AI replace tech work is over. It isnt even close at this point. It can write a few lines of shitty code. Its at best a good stack overflow replacement.
Honestly good for you, you learned a new skill. I'm sorry that it happened at the same time everyone else was learning it, too, though, but it's still a good skill to have. It might be less valuable because it's more common, but that doesn't make it less useful.
So umm.... if all "Entry Level" positions are to be replaced by A.I. then how is anyone supposed to build up the 3-5 years of experience even needed to apply for the "Entry Level" in order to eventually become the top-level veteran engineer?
You don't. Nowadays, most "entry level" jobs will state that you need 5-10+ years of experience in an area. I've seen job postings that are asking for more experience than the technology has even existed for.
I guess be the guy that programs and manages the models that are doing the jobs. The roles just become more strategic. AI has trouble with context at the moment.
I've been reading a great book called 'Technofuedalism' by Yanis Varoufakis which touches on this subject. It describes how we moved from finance-dominant neoliberalism to a tech-dominant system that surpasses capital/labor dynamics and uses technology to invade every aspect of people's lives. This explains how tech workers have basically become an elite class in cities where even they can barely afford to get by.
Cory Doctorow, who coined the phrase enshittification, also wrote ‘Little Brother’. Its plot starts post terrorist attack in San Francisco and involves the US turning to a mass surveillance state, an attempted uprising, and the failure and torturing of that uprising’s youth leader. Traumatized me. Incredible book
@@darrenwastestimeeh not true, cloud services are making bank. It’s the companies that are trying to be a crappy middleman that are hurting, like the ubers and the airbnbs and lyfts if the world. AWS still prints money hand over fist
Humans are always greedy, tribal and will value themselves over others. In a functioning, capitalist economy, they would be forced to innovate and add value to society, or become obsolete. This is not the case when the government subsidizes everything they do.
That's the reason thieves exist. They rob you; you start from scratch again till there's no ground.😅 In my opinion stock techs could learn a thing or two listening to Power of Dollar album by 50 Cent.
"Disrupt" means move into a business category that worked well enough and siphon out all the profits. For example, taxi drivers used to be able to raise a family and put their kids through college. Not anymore.
@@RBzee112 The term actually has a rigorous definition, but douchenozzle tech bros have rubbished it. Read up on Clay Christensen's "Disruption Theory," and then realize that about 90% of bombastic uses of the term don't actually qualify.
Field went from 'not your parents company' to 'allow me to consume society so that I may summon the machine God'. Which I suppose is still 'not your parents company', just in a way we didn't expect...
The worst part about these Tech Bros is the sci-fi dystopia they essentially helped create. Feels like the turning point may have started around 2012 and wasn't really being felt until around 2014. There is probably a correlation between it, social media, and the rise of smartphones. You can thank social media for normalizing people sharing their info and not doing it when companies like Facebook was selling that information to who knows who. Before social media, one of the golden rules of the internet was not to share your information. Probably because people back then had an idea that this would happen.
I still love the time when there was real diversity in market. How internet was really an open space for everyone. Now its like if you are not on these platforms you are not on internet.
The same people who created monstrous companies in the past are the same people who are starting or turning your favorite tech companies into monsters too. It is just that you got deceived by their cool logos and nice slogans but those tech companies were set from the get go on this trajectory. It is enough to know that 3 lettered agencies were involved with a good number of them from the beginning so in a sense they already started out being too important to fail. And from there, the C suits operate.
I kind of saw the writing on the wall when I was in college. Granted, I’ve never been very good with computers and I was intimidated by how involved coding looked. But when everyone is telling you to get into tech, you gotta wonder how competitive that industry is about to get.
I kind of saw the writing on the wall when I was in college. Granted, I’ve never been very good with computers and I was intimidated by how involved coding looked. But when everyone is telling you to get into tech, you gotta wonder how competitive that industry is about to get.
My big issue with someone who works in tech is all the jobs are located in like four or five over priced cities. Tech would be way better if those companies where scattered all over the US
@@ripplecutter233 That, and there's always a resistance to WFH among business owners. I think it's a psychological thing - people want to see their minions scurrying around. Otherwise where is the feeling of power?
@@vylbird8014 It's the small businesses they collect rent from. Then the small business owner using the excess to pay rent for their living space. It's not just the office building leases. Single family zoning made it guaranteed there would be no transition for all of those other industries. Nobody is opening a coffee shop with sweets, produce stand, or a hard cider bar in your suburb. It's illegal.
Tech bros ruined it for actual technologists. Today's conventions for the tech industry are exclusively about venture capital and wearing a pretty suit to convince the rich man to give you money. It's zero substance on things like technology or best practices as it applies to our work. I'm sick of this private school Ivy League frat boy culture.
Tech jobs are just an eternal churn of nothingness. Produce nothing of value and pretend you’re useful until you get the golden exit, then do it again.
I saw that push for everyone to learn to code a mile away. Anytime the mainstream push’s or encourages everyone to do a certain thing, I go the opposite.
@@sentinel151I made the silly mistake to go to university. Here I am now unemployed for a long time, I’m considering going for trade school. Do you know if the industry is open for someone in his 30’s to join? I heard of many industries that only take young people for junior roles…
There was a sense of tech optimism. That programmers and coders could fix many of the world’s problems, and an open internet. Now the “disruptors” have become the institutions with nothing else to disrupt, while trying to lock you into their individual tech fiefdoms.
Now that you mention how there was a sense of tech optimism, isn’t it interesting to draw the parallels with the technological optimism of Modernism a 100 years previous to that?
There are so many industries to disrupt. Banking, finance, heath, education ... What are you talking about? Even tech itself can and should get disrupted.
@@violett874 To be fair, a lot of these "disruptions" are just in it for the money as well, lot's of people make startups with the exact intent to be bought out.
You can thank the government for shilling for big-everything. When corporations are encouraged to fuck over smaller companies, you get as stale of an economy as you would in a socialist country.
@@hotmess9640 Except tech bros were actually good, it was the finance bros that ruined everything. And our tech bros that become finance bros. The YTer sounds like a person that just hates tech bros, when he is a finance bro himself. Many tech bros actually created things for good, but eventually got corrupted by finance.
@@notactuallyarealperson2267 just report them for harassment and bullying, that way he won't be able to comment for a bit as punishment for unnecessary insults. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." - everyone's grandma. "Sometimes the show of a great orator is when he chooses not to speak" - some old Roman guy.
I was a software engineer in the 90s, and was paid better 30 years ago, in real money. By the time you factor in inflation, the jobs pay half as much, and are located in crazy expensive housing markets. Basically after the 2008 housing crisis, if you were with a FANG company it was still decent, but the rest of the market was falling behind, just like all the other employment markets.
There is a theory that capitalism inevitably leads to growing inequality through effects auch as those (Piketty). It basically states, that the top 1% are to rich to fail financially or legally and may grow their wealth better that the rast in any circumstances.
A career in "big tech" may have been a high risk, high reward strategy that is crashing out now but there are plenty of lower risk ways to have a career in programming. Learning to code may not be a get rich quick scheme any more but it's still a path to a stable career that can fund a livable retirement.
Fair point! Unfortunately between outsourcing and AI coding I am personally afraid that a lot of entry level coding roles are going to get rarer and rarer.
THIS! Don't try to get a job at a tech company, where you are just a number. Find a IT support job in industry or finance. Smaller teams, less tech focused, but still great benefits and good pay.
@@HowMoneyWorksyeah but that's for almost every job that's not called ceo or health care. Even trades are starting to get oversaturated and there are large amounts of immigrants that do way better work than people in trade schools for a cheaper price aka outsourcing.
@@HowMoneyWorks I view the impact of AI long term to be similar to the impact of computers on the workplace. The core function of certain "types" of jobs will remain, but a lot of the rote tasks involved in most jobs will be replaced by AI. What will remain are the type of jobs that require innovative and creative thinking and a broad, holistic understanding of the role/industry, these jobs will (continue to) help guide companies to growth and innovation but won't get bogged down with lower level work. A great example is in accounting, where back in the day people used to manually write and manage large spreadsheets and ledger books, that work is now done by Excel. And sure we lost those jobs, but what's left is much higher impact. In short, AI in the workforce be a boon for established and high-skill workers, but a bust for newer and low-skill workers.
@@HowMoneyWorkshere in my country alot of the senior progammers work for U.S.A and they get paid around 1000-2500 dolar monthly and is a very good salary in my country so Why hire a entry level job in usa when you can hire a small team(with more experience) via remote work?
I grew up in SF. According to my mom rent from 2000 to 2014 was about $1500/mo. Then something happened and the landlord raised the price to $4000/mo. A single mother working as a nurse cannot afford that. No one can.
it's that these big global companies owned by chinese and other global investors started buying up real estate just to rent it out. It should be illegal for big mega corps to buy up houses and real estate
@@TracksWithDax All at once I assume considering our quality of life seemed to only go up until 2014 when we had to move out. Though I was about to graduate the next year so she kept all the adult stress hidden from me while I was dealing with school stress.
@dervakommtvonhinten517 Haha, the AI took that advice a bit too literally! 🤖💻 @@HowMoneyWorks Exactly! We need to be more specific with our instructions! 😂
Yeah I agree with the feeling that tech uses to be about creating new stuff that improved people's life/quality of life. For the past 10 years, tech has just been about how to shove as much ads as possible in my throat while making the pre-existing service worse.
Finance bros went through way worse in 2007, especially the ones who were young at the time. My classmate became a finance bro in 2005 for a little company called Lehman Brothers. He now runs a small local coffee roastery. Still doing well, but definitely not what he planned to be when he graduated. The old guard finance bros were the ones that were kept around, and likewise for the old guard tech bros.
@@AntenoxGreat, now he's doing an actual job that provides an actual service to actual people rather than figuring out how to move around numbers in a way to divert more of them to themselves.
The moment someone tells you to do X because it pays well, that is basically when it is over. By the time you get the necessary skills to get into that field, a LOT will have changed. Not to mention the influx of others competiting for it too. For tech, this is massively worse. Tech changes rapidly (on daily/weekly/ lmonthly basis), so your credentials and education becomes obsolete almost immediately - max 6 months. College degree is typically required, yet they are teaching material several years old.
That's why good developers know programming and program architecture, not languages . Also important is a willingness and desire to constantly be learning
There is a precedent for this stuff. Some companies are experimenting with the idea. And as soon as AI will be able to do a job of Junior software engineer you can bet your ass that all of them are getting the boot
@@clang_the_owl42AI isn't going to reach that point until we have general AI, which is still science fiction. The most advanced LLMs have just about sucked up all the programming knowledge available at this point and we're seeing a decline in the quality of the code recommendations. I'm a SWE who has been using LLMs in my work for the last few years. I've been using it less and less the last 6 months or so because it's frustratingly crap for anything but the simplest of problems.
@@clang_the_owl42, AI can't do any work, ever. Ai is a well-liked kid in class who cheats off his friends' homework and tasks, and therefore understands none of the material he is supposed to know, but everybody praises him for his well-rounded knowledge. The danger isn't from AI taking jobs, the danger is from the AI being given the jobs.
AI has already replaced a great deal of work... Just as software programs replaced a lot of the work that used to be done by humans. Now AI is helping professionals to code and it will continue do more and more of the tasks as it becomes more sophisticated - progressing tirelessly in the level of autonomy, therefore augmenting the remaining human portion of the job tasks. The technological trend is that we started with 100% human input and we are going towards 0% human input - it's mostly a question of time. Eventually this will make the very terms such as "grunt work" redundant.
It's funny to see how people see our industry from the outside, they don't realize that our kind of work, intellectual work, is the most resistant to complete automation. I say this without exaggeration, the day our profession gets automated is the day that every kind of job gets automated.
Finally, after working for a few companies all I can say is they have all your data lol. Data storage is so insanely cheap that they will probably keep it forever.
I think Techbros didn't ruin anything for themselves. I think Product Managers, Program Managers and unskilled VPs are the ones who ruined it for Techbros. And the techbros where stupid enough to automate themselves out of their own jobs.
this a really superficial way of looking at it. "tech bro" isnt an actual job, programmers who work at google arent the same as ai developers who work at open ai, not the same as low-level language developers who create frameworks , etc not even close to being the same job. for example ai developers are actually closer to being mathmaticians than developers
We didn't automate our jobs out of existence. Anyone who thinks AI can do what we do is an idiot. I've seen the code that AIs produced and it left me wanting, to say the least.
tech is an evolving field, always has been. In the 50’s a computer took up one big room and you coded by unplugging and plugging sockets. In an ever evolving field, you’ll have to be someone that’s willing to keep up. AI isn’t taking their jobs, it’s just the next step for them.
Por que no los dos? A few years ago, maybe decades ago, if you were a coder near an MBA program, you'd be dodging the business/finance bros trying to convince you to be their code monkey for their "business idea." I think it got so annoying that the tech bros learned finance and the finance bros learned how to code and they merged into one ugly monster of shit tech companies.
i always despised the whole ABM/Marketing strand in highschool. I already had a gut feeling that they ruin everything. But turns as I got older my beliefs only got validated even more.
The irony is that tech bros are the ones who have/are developing AI, effectively making themselves obsolete. All the living wage workers being laid off is a blow to the economy.
They're not really making themselves obsolete, because their positions are already secure. What they ARE doing selling out their juniors and denying them opportunities
@@neopabo the real problem it's that there is a boom in actually useful devs, there's is more deman for "semi senior/senior" positions ie not someone who knows how to work without help, the thing is that culls all the fat of the meat, but also you do not help to catch or secure talent that has not already worked on a good or ok company for at least a couple years, couple that with bs ways of get hired by first being having a hr meeting where the interviewer it's not trained to know what exactly they're looking for. In the end you get people with a ba in cs and not getting a job because they're hiring people with experience + years of experience for a intership/junior position for pennies
I think another major problem is that there's only so much that can be done with these programs ( I refuse to call them apps). There's only x amount of improvments to be done and features to add until it takes away from the program itself. The market can only sustain a Y amount of tech companies long term. And adding improvents today might only get you 5% more people using yout program versus 50%-60% ten to fifteen years ago. The goldrush is over.
Good point, on the flip side, I've used a few unknown smaller billing platforms that had loads of room for improvement but small companies never want to hire. There was always a huge backlog and wish list, with each platform but God forbid we paid a little more and God forbid the other smaller companies hired anyone!!! Such a misallocation of resources when you think about it on a larger scale.
@@PBro123 ne Mann aber des n Englischer Channel was die in der Schule nicht erzählt haben das andere Kulturen an anderen interessiert sind. Du schreibst ja auch auf Englisch 😂
Tech is about building the frontier - too many people went to boot camps or overindexed on the "current hype" instead of building long-term complex reasoning skills to track the frontier as it evolved. Frontend devs were always going to be the easiest ones to replace Some of the best engineers I've worked with came from mathematical backgrounds. That level of abstract reasoning is difficult to teach but surprisingly easy to select for in hiring, and it's those kinds of engineers who I think will continue to win in the long run
@@InwardRTMP The question you need to ask yourself is: are you AirBnB or Waymo? There are many companies that operate like traditional businesses on a technological platform, like AirBnB. AirBnB probably won't ever release a VR headset, or fab a new GPU, or invent a new quantum algorithm, or make any other kind of platform shift - and that's okay! They've found the platform they like and they're running a sustainable business off it. In other words, engineering is a cost center for them. They want to select for max(!/$) engineers who can help them understand how consumers behave and which colors of buttons drive bookings. I agree there's no premium AirBnB should pay for the best engineers But there *are* a handful of companies that work on building new platforms - the "true innovation" that we all handwave about. When you are making something impossible, possible for the first time, you really do want the best talent available to you. It's sort of like an F1 team: the work we do is so foundational and has to operate at such a high level that it's worth it for us to individually measure every single screw that goes in the car. It's a natural equilibrium - there are very few "best" engineers, and there are also comparatively few companies who actually need the best engineers. That's why you observe dynamics where the top 0.1% of engineers make so much money but the average software engineer only make $250k or something. If your firm doesn't need top talent, rejoice! Unfortunately, some of us actually do have to pay top dollar for it
@8:30 This. I've explained to people over the years how I jumped stacks, industries, and eventually ditched Silicon Valley as a whole to exit the boom/bust cycle. It isn't a meritocracy when most of the planned startups and efforts are doomed from the start and the value isn't what you create, but the short-selling of what you disrupt. That's the dominant culture and has been for almost 20 years.
@@hyderkhan9867 I left silicon valley, consulted in pharma, then decided re-grow my soul and joined non-profit healthcare. Not a perfect industry and the pay is nowhere close to tech-proper, but the pay is *plenty* and the work is always in service of the community. I'll never leave this industry.
I work in tech and I'm lucky my employer can't force to go to the office because they fully embraced remote work by closing down all offices. This the main reason I just don't bother with looking for a higher paying job, plenty of companies advertised themselves as having a hybrid or remote work environment but they can easily just lie or change their mind later
Gold Rush syndrome, when everyone goes for the same high paying job ( that doesnt require 10 years of education like Doctors/Lawyers) that field becomes over-saturated and devalued
Should be FAMG (Microsoft instead of Netflix). Never ceases to amaze me how we involve Netflix in conversations they honestly don’t really belong as much in…
No it was Netflix because they went absolutely insane hiring devs. Far far beyond what they actually needed. The FAANG title was based on the kind of behavior described in the video while Microsoft has been a steady, reasonable business.
Netflix was once a much bigger company before the streaming wars. If we went by stock market value today, it would be AMAA. Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon. Nvidia can get in fifth place now. So maybe AMAAN.
Netflix still belongs because of the quality of its engineering practices and its operational scale. The streaming wars may have caused some attrition to market cap, but every other service is trying to catch up to Netflix. As an example, Netflix is partially hosed on Amazon Web Services. A few years ago there was a massive outage in the US-West-1 availability zone that took down about half of the popular web apps at the time. Even Amazon Video was stuttering and struggling. Netflix didn't break a sweat. They were absolutely among the most desirable jobs for SWEs and SREs, and were paying top dollar-one SRE shared his comp on Twitter, and revealed that his base pay was over $500k.
Really want went wrong with getting a computer science degree is the very recent proliferation of coding "bootcamps" and "workshops" that tech bros are such big fans of. Where people can learn the absolute bare minimum needed to apply for a software job in just 6 months. It's a big cause for why every tech job has 200 applications within 10 minutes of being posted, because all these people gold rushed the market at the start of Covid chasing remote jobs with 6-digit salaries. They never get the job and all it does is add more noise for recruiters that makes it harder for people like me who have a full degree, a portfolio of shipped software and multiple internships to even get a 1st interview.
I have a business analytics degree and have some skills in sql, r, python and other code. Just graduated is it realistic to look for a completely remote job right off the bat? Ive only done 1 internship.
@@tkstone8387 Nah, companies are cutting down on remote offers and as far as I know it's mostly just for proven record people who can work remotely and do their job. Had past experience doing just that. Otherwise I don't think they would be open for this idea.
I'm in the same boat. Not a single technical interview all year, and I have 2 years experience plus graduated university with the BS in CSCI at 19 years old. I'm homeless.
@@magicsmoke0 basically, "AI" cannot do the things tech companies claim it can do. It can basically just find patterns and sort stuff, there is zero intelligence to it.
Tech Bros, just like Finance Bros after 2008, are about to rediscover that every industry is cyclical, and that there is no "magical career" to get rich quick and easy 😅
A lot of the tech bros I worked with have retired or are rich enough to retire and work for fun. I'd say compared to most careers becoming a tech bro in the last 10 to 20 years would get you richer quicker and easier than just about anything else, and without the risk of owning your own business. Their money doesn't just magically disappear now.
There isn't really a fall going on, just a moderation. And as the tech market recedes (a bit) another variant of it is rapidly rising to take its place: that of the applied AI engineer. Tbh it's hard to tell where one begins and the other ends. Tech workers with new tools have ALWAYS been replacing tech workers with old tools and this is hardly any different.
As a software engineer, I have not heard of a single company that has replaced workers with AI or even made any significant productivity gain with AI. The problem is that programming became so over-hyped as a career that huge amounts of people went into the industry, and even boot camps pushed out a bunch of people barely qualified to do some basic programming tasks, so now the job market is over-saturated.
I mean, I do know of companies / developers noting productivity gains with AI and I experience it myself. You’re somewhat faster and can churn out more in a shorter timeframe. I agree though. The hype of the profession was necessary to fill the gap, but then it got too big and now there’s simply a market correction in the labor market happening. I kinda hope we can go back to before again, I liked being a nerd doing something no one understands or really cares about. It’s all too flashy now, and when talking to "coders", 50% of the time you’ll soon discover they fucking suck at it.
@@lalala-lt8fe soon software engineer too given much time until AI mature enough to replicate their job. We can never predict a future bro nothing is certain
That's a great question! You can tell I'm not an AI by my educated enthusiasm and zest for life! Additionally, it is impossible that glitchy AI will ever take over for 1001010010x ERROR
What's even funnier is how software companies co-opted the word "tech". So now when you hear "tech" you think of coding instead of way more techy things like hardware engineering, robotics, automotive industry, aircraft industry etc...
The health industry is booming because the US spends $12.000 a year, per capita, on subsidizing insurance companies and hospitals. For the record, Switzerland comes in 2nd at $8000 a year, per capita. TLDR: Government hates you, and loves mega-corps.
It's not even good in the trades right now. Building has slowed way down. There is no part of the economy that is totally isolated from all others. Everything is down.
Unbeleivably true. My med friends are casually getting jobs every two seconds. The research they get is wild. All my friends in the trades, are just casually getting good jobs too
@@duckymomo7935I would predict the medical field as the next “trendy” career like tech was and like the trades are right now. I’m just hoping I can get established before the hordes come rushing in.
Because the early companies have now adopted all the same "best practices" of the soulless corporate behemoths that they were nimble enough to replace in the past...
I have been in software engineering for over 20 years and today's developers don't come anywhere close to the intellect and creativity of the old school programmers.
Assuming because of the app generation where there was always a tool to do something and therefore created said tool? Probably going to get so much worse thanks to AI and differ the thinking to AI and takes the output at face value?
@@jackMeought-fr8vl I've been writing JavaScript for almost two decades now, and I can tell you that old-school web development was the *pinnacle* of creative problem solving. Juggling client demands, IE compatibility, nascent web standards and project deadlines taught you to think on your feet and do so resourcefully. Today, the Web is just… an endless cesspool of bloat where younger, less experienced devs balk at the idea of writing HTML by hand, because they need a 10 MB build chain to convert Markdown into the worst-quality HTML markup you've ever read in your entire life.
Several years ago my mother just kept harassing me to enrol in some expensive coding school... i thought "hmm, maybe", but then also read news articles about politicians to make coding a mandatory high school teaching... so I realized i was going to pay a lot of money to learn something that any schoolkid would know anyway. So, having an MA in management, i figured out the scheme : coders were earning a LOT of money back then. The big tech companies simply lobbied around to have "everyone" learn to code, so that coding would become a basic skill... meaning, CHEAP labor. They didn't plan to employ millions of new coders, simply to pay the new ones less money. For a work that in 90% of cases is ultra-boring : just code forms. I'm not delusional enough to believe that after going through a coding school i'd become a computer-genius, launch a revolutionary online platform and earn millions.
I was a teen during 2010s. Coding camps were everywhere. People thought me going to nursing was a bad choice. In all honesty it is a tiring job but guess what? I still keep my job and so do my blue-collar peers.
As a professional software developer of almost 10 years, this video speaks facts about cringy tech bros that are so immutable that TypeScript will warn you if you try to re-assign that value 💻
Tech was genuinely a path into the middle class in the early 10s. Even if you weren't a coder or the best coder in the world, there were so many startups with so many open positions that a recent grad with a generalist skill set could get in with a competitive salary and learn on the job. As I understand it, that entry route is largely dead now as there are just less new firms altogether, and the ones that do get in are on a much shorter funding leash than 2010s startups who could coast on funding rounds until getting bought out by Salesforce or Oracle.
In other words, I just chose the worst time to try leaving my boring job by learning to code, because that's not going to be the better option I thought it would.
Nah, the absolute worst time to have done that would have been in late 2021 when all the layoffs and rampant consolidation had just started. All markets are cyclical and chances are by the time you're done learning it'll be healthy again.
Your fine. By the time you get good enough to get an actual job offer; the market will have stabilized. Interest rates will have come back down, there will hopefully be some minor regulations in place to prevent mass outsourcing to lower income countries, and the AI hype train will have settled down a considerable amount due to lack of interests from consumers, high operational costs, and investors getting fed up of not getting a good return on investments.
Fact: fewer people are working now than in 2008. Across the board. Employment per capita has been falling for at least the last three decades. The rebound we've been seeing since the end of the COVID lockdowns has largely been in sectors deemed *non-essential* during COVID. And now big companies are finally making the big push to automate as many jobs as possible before the global population shrinks as we pass through the "echo" of the World Wars. This is going to lead to mass unemployment and a serious loss of institutional knowledge as employees with four or more decades of work experience literally start dying out. All that's happening in the tech sector right now is what was foretold back in the 1990s. All the data entry, programming, and tech development jobs are done and the companies that are left can only show "growth" through 1980s-style downsizing.
Yup, the gray beard problem is huge. The only young people in tech are coders, everyone else is in their 60s. However, im optimistic as they’ll free up jobs for younger works. A lot of them are super talented.
@@phillysslydogsly4186 -- I'm not optimistic. The problem with hand-picked successors is that it favours heredity and personal loyalty instead of merit or true potential. A civilization can't develop a wide pool of talent if practical experience, education, basic skills, and health care only go to the sons and daughters of those who can most afford to pay. All signs I see point to the creation of a new and increasingly out-of-touch and repressive landed gentry -- followed by another wave of revolutions some time in the 2050s. But I'm also the worst kind of pessimist.
When you have 1.4 billion indians and 1.4 billion Chinese, human life tends to get cheaper than a chatgpt subscription. Everything people said AI would replace, instead got outsourced to India. 50% of the world is indian or Chinese. If that doesn't sound wrong to you, then your heads in the sand. America needs an overpopulation tax
@@HowMoneyWorks da realuhst of da realist know how to make their own rope memory and just bake the code into the silicon bruh, do you even build your own semiconductor factory bro? Get on my level SMH
I remember when they said truck drivers would be the first to fall. Now I’m just a dumb truck driver but i remember saying ‘i think the genius computer software will replace the jobs of humans using computers first’
Success depends on the actions or steps you take to achieve it. Building wealth involves developing good habits like regularly putting money away in intervals for solid investments. Financial management is a crucial topic that most tend to shy away from, and ends up haunting them in the near future.., I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life!!
Sort of. There are plenty of smart software guys, but all them really suck at business management. The success cases come when you have someone who had good business sense and commitment, and also enough tech skills to recognise and hire all those ubernerds who can actually make a product. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were not brilliant programmers or engineers, but they dabbled enough to know how to recognise a good engineer and how to tell when someone is promising the impossible.
What is the definition of a "bro"? In my experience, tech bros, finance bros, alpha male podcaster bros, male enhancement supplement bros, AI bros, etc are all the same "bros". As in they don't give a single iota of a care about the product or industry, they just talk a big game and try to squeeze profit out of everything. They are finance bros (jock business majors) where the only product is making themselves money. They are the shovel sellers in a gold rush.
@@cfri9332In my opinion, A "bro" is someone who makes his job his whole brand and personality. They think they can solve all global problems with their field of expertise. Like "Crypto Bros" think crypto and blockchain can solve inflation, US dollar dominance, Central Banks hegemony etc. Basically, know it all of their respective industries
What amuses me is that these 'tech bros' didn't realize that these do-nothing-get-paid-400k jobs weren't going to last forever, so therefore didn't set sufficient money aside to outlast unemployment.
Most of them are rich enough without setting aside money. Practically all Nvidia employees are millionaires just off the stock price. Even if you've only been there for 3 years.
If regulations come, these salaries will hike even more. Average users have NO IDEA how good they have it with software despite how crap they call it. Most tech stuff is based on freedom-fueled free work.
@@gelinrefira 200k would be going to taxes, so you're only taking home 200k, which is still amazing but remember SF is HCOL so that could easily be knocked down to 100k after rent/expenses.
@@sownheardTech bro is mainly social media tech personality who thinks tech can solve every global problem and tries to analyze every issue through a tech lense
@@rithondhar8171that's the point. They told the world that everything can be solved via innovation. However, this could not be further from the truth. Barely any innovation works against climate change. We instead nead systemic change and courageous decisions
@@nami1540there’s plenty of innovation against climate change, we have tools today that can predict the total emissions of a vehicle for its entire lifetime The problem is selling the innovations. We could make the best Car possible but customers still want a dumb SUV
9:10-Take it from someone who took years to learn both computer science and finance,you do NOT want stock options from a company instead of an income!This way you just get the worst of both worlds! 9:38-No need to ask.I already figured it out. Having a lot of programmers is good for national economy,but getting many of them in 1 place is bad for local economy!
As someone who works in software development, specifically in AI development, current AI solutions are nowhere close to automating the work of a junior developer. Yes, AI can write simple, correct-looking code, but once you go into anything more complex, they fail miserably. And besides, junior developers do a lot more than just coding, so it is quite unlikely that we’ll see AI replacing them any time soon. Interest rates, saturation and outsourcing are far more realistic threats to the tech industry. It’s always people who don’t work in tech that keep overestimating the capability of modern AI. Yes, Large Language Models are impressive but the algorithms powering them are basically just predictive typing on steroids. And most of all, generative AI appears to be reaching a peak rather than getting smarter. In fact, because so much content on the internet is now AI-generated and AI models are being trained on information from the internet (including AI-generated content), it looks like performance is actually deteriorating rather than improving because of “inbreeding” by AI models.
I work in IT. Im not a millionaire, but i have it pretty good at a University. My position is pretty low as a Tech support specalist. I was hired at the pay cap (will still get yearly raises) but i also have literally 8 weeks off between PTO and Holidays.
We're still recruiting like crazy and making extremely good money. "Learn to code" is still a very relevant advice, especially if you're not in a tech centric job. For example, a commodities analyst who knows how to code outperforms his peers by a lot.
Got Computer Science degree. Unfortunately Covid occured and job market dropped like terrible. As a kid thought easy to work (getting jobs) as a Computer guy. However, that was a big mistake in my mind.
Tech Bros are finding out what the Finance Bros learned ages ago, The Biz Bros find a way to win. If you study the gaming industry it feels like a focused microcosm of the issue.
@@samsonsoturian6013 yup. This has been a topic for awhile with gamers. How talented creators went from leading the company to working for the company's bottom-line.
After 40 years in tech and IT, I have seen “AGI is 5 years away” about every 5-7 years, a fair number of bigger or smaller BS hype bubbles, a number of IT contractions and expansions, and any variety of utopian or dystopian narratives. IT is just a branch of engineering. As other branches, it mostly delivers modest improvements of value chain, when done well, and the opposite when not. Most people have no idea how costly it is to build technology as robust as for example an iphone. And how difficult it is to keep IT running without breaking down. It takes a lot of people and a lot of money. It is not a magic wand. I happen to have made original research in Machine Learning, and an avid student of Philosophy of Mind, and I dabble in philosophy and theory of science. And I don’t think we are meaningfully closer to an AGI now than we where 40 years ago. All the text that we have, and most of the data we have produced, only make sense because of 3 bn years of evolution, 500.000+ years of cultural “evolution”, and x numbers of years of upbringing. It does not depict reality as it is, only as we think about it, with a strong emphasis on “we” as human beings. The sample size is simply to small, we can’t train our statistical models, sorry, AI, to interact with the real world based on our body of knowledge. Also, we as a species are not very bright. Thinking is our differentiator to other species, but by far one of the things we are less evolved to do.
"[UA-cam] the homepage of the site today look much different than even 5 years ago" Shows two almost identical grids of videos. Font change is not an example of 5 years of hard work of thousands of engineers.
Believe it or not, companies spend a ton of money on UI/UX, as it's inherently connected to human psychology. A small change in font, style, etc can drastically affect the amount of time you want to stay on a site. This is especially true for sites in increasingly competitive spaces like UA-cam
8:21 “save companies millions of dollars” I hate that term, they aren’t “saving” when they already have billions of dollars. They’re trying to Keep their millions of dollars.
As someone who graduated with a Computer Science degree only a few years ago, it's the "online services" sector of the technology market that's really struggling. The FANG companies are losing toutch with their customer bases, and start ups are just a gamble at best, trying to sell random products no body asked for. The real money is in quantum computing research and engineering. There are massive engineering companies that still need lots computers scientists with good math skills. Just being able to code an iPhone app isn't a free ticket to a good job anymore.
@@keanorobinson3730 I don't personally, I work for an engineering company doing modeling and simulation for the aerospace industry. I have friends from college and an older cousin that work in quantum research. They easily make over $200,000k each year, but it's really really difficult stuff and all have Masters or PhDs so they earn it. Although, the engineering job pays pretty well too and I didn't need more than a bachelors.
If it wasn't for these companies trying to engineer planed obsolescence and making repairs as painful as possible. I would say being a repairman could have been something. When I say as painful as possible, I am talking about making it really hard to open up your phone and having to buy the parts directly from said company because you can't get the part from another manufacturer. Don't even get me started with removing useful features like removable batteries and installing secondary storage. Now if you do pay for it, you are essentially paying these companies to store your information on their drives(cloud storage) and they can effectively data mine your information you saved on it. Look at adobe using people's work to train their AI, who will then destroy their customers livelihood. Think you also have to sign their new TOS if you want to get your work back. Then if you want to terminate it, they make the process as painful as possible.
My advice as a long time Silicon Valley engineer is that it tech isn’t over, it’s just shedding the less skilled and adept. The fact is now you HAVE to learn AI/ML to be very viable and continue to make big pay. Most aren’t smart enough to do so, or lack the motivation. They just want to continue doing what they have been doing, which are now skills that can be easily automated or outsourced. The big money is still there, but once again it’s going to require you to dive deep into the realm of math and coding.
I joined one not so small startup back at 2019, 5 years passed, I earned quite a lot through stock options, however first 100 joiners or so, who joined just a year or two before me right now have a few millions of USD of net worth. I'm not saying I envy them, but I feel that my only fault of not becoming the millionare was that I haven't joined this company 2 years before and was born too late
being a software engineer myself, i've noticed that there are just too many people in 'tech' companies who aren't supposed to be here. firing scrum masters, product managers, testers, HRs should be totally, Ok.
The company i left last year is a sort of non profit and gets fund from the likes of Bill foundation. They have like 9 devs, 4 QAs, 2 yes 2 engineering managers, a software dev advicate, a product owner, a product manager and a tech product lead...a community manage and a director of community, a chief product officer and a chief technology officer...and thats just the so called product team. Wonder how mu h fluff there is in other teams..mind you the guy with chief and manager in their title would make probably 2x the salary of a dev though their role consists of just slacking, 1 on 1 meetings and annual reviews.😂😂😂
After 38 years as a proper software engineer, I had to take a break to take care of my mom (Alzhiemer's). I thought I'd go back into it. After a few months of being away from it, there was no fn way I was going back to that shitshow. I could write a book on this topic. Now, I'm just paying myself to rewire, replumb my old house, and then a hunnert other projects.
Or India. So sick of everything being outsourced to India. I am a BA and keep listening to people rant about how they hate the time difference and lower quality work. As if the three software companies I work with have no control over who they hire
They should just ban outsourcing in general. Iv been vocal against outsourcing factory workers to overpopulated third world countries. Now Im getting my job outsourced. EVEYR SINGLE JOB THAT AUTOMATION CLAIMED TO THREATEN, HAS BEEN OUTSOURCED TO OVERPOPULATED COUNTRIES
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no just learn to code good so your code doesnt have pitfalls and weak points
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The culture around tech evolved from being counter-corporate to becoming just another corporate monster. Tech bros started off as the antithesis of Wall Street greed, yet ended up playing the same game with VC funding, IPOs, and ultimately prioritizing profits over innovation. The cycle just repeats in different industries.
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"Don't be evil" turned into "try to not look evil"
It's a cycle that is almost inevitable. If you don't participate, you will get crushed.
Profits are ALWAYS the goal,but innovation should be the requirment for it.
Bruh exactly...... I am cyber professional, and it became a corporate circus that became annoying to point I just look at it as a job.
Hey, there is still github and open source. Its not that bad
Why didn't I start a company 20 years ago instead of playing with legos!! 😫😫
I should have bought amazon stock instead of being a fetus.
@@ThatSpecificIndividual real
shouldve become a programmer instead of leaning to read
True I was being so lazy just chillin in my parents' gonads
@@gamagama69 reading is useless now... im guessing
The ENTIRE purpose of telling everyone to learn to code was precisely FOR the purpose of increasing labor market saturation so they could pay developers less and lay them off more easily. "Learn to Code" actually worked PERFECTLY, and as intended - for the powerful corporations, that is. It was never about helping uplift regular folk, only beating down a small segment of the population (nerdy programmers) who, through a fluke, had accidentally gotten too powerful and forgotten their place
On the flipside, at least now more people now have a better idea of how the technology that they use everyday works now... right? Ehhh, who am I kidding?
yes you're right ,it was to dilute the pool and get fresh cheap labour
'learn to code' changed me from working 50-60 hours a week for 42k a year to working 20 hours a week remotely for 50k. So, you're very wrong.
@@MyBinaryLife I’m glad it benefitted you, and many others, but the macro picture - and the motives of those who pushed the agenda, remain evident. Labor is an input component subject to supply and demand like everything else, and “learn to code” was an initiative paid for by industry coffers, not workers unions
exactly this. I was about to comment something similar
They told truck drivers to learn to code.
That's exactly what I did and of course the minute I get some IT and programming certifications then the whole bottom falls out of the market...
At this point I don't even want to waste my time learning another skill by the time I learn it AI will take over it anyway.
Maybe I'll learn how to repair robot or something 😂😂😂
Update got my first job in IT! Still possible to go the boot camp and project route.
I think making a Roku app for my church helped a lot in the interview.
That genuinely is very frustrating. Sometimes you can do everything right and still lose... that isn't weakness, that is fate.
They're already developing robots to repair other robots.
Do what you like to do and you may find a way to make money from it. Better to fail doing what you love than get shit on doing what you don't.
When AI replace tech work is over. It isnt even close at this point. It can write a few lines of shitty code. Its at best a good stack overflow replacement.
Honestly good for you, you learned a new skill. I'm sorry that it happened at the same time everyone else was learning it, too, though, but it's still a good skill to have. It might be less valuable because it's more common, but that doesn't make it less useful.
So umm.... if all "Entry Level" positions are to be replaced by A.I. then how is anyone supposed to build up the 3-5 years of experience even needed to apply for the "Entry Level" in order to eventually become the top-level veteran engineer?
That’s the funny thing: you don’t
You don't. Gen Z will be the forgotten Generation 😞
You don't. Nowadays, most "entry level" jobs will state that you need 5-10+ years of experience in an area. I've seen job postings that are asking for more experience than the technology has even existed for.
@@Squatch_11 like that python framework: FastApi?
I guess be the guy that programs and manages the models that are doing the jobs. The roles just become more strategic. AI has trouble with context at the moment.
tech bros didn’t learn to code, they learned how to ducktape javascript frameworks together.
A-frakin-men!
Shh
Next big framework: DucttapeJS
Soydevs have brought their own downfall lmfao
The Virgin Javascript
The Chad C
The Thad Assembly
The Shlad "Build a computer out of Tonka truck parts"
I've been reading a great book called 'Technofuedalism' by Yanis Varoufakis which touches on this subject. It describes how we moved from finance-dominant neoliberalism to a tech-dominant system that surpasses capital/labor dynamics and uses technology to invade every aspect of people's lives. This explains how tech workers have basically become an elite class in cities where even they can barely afford to get by.
I'd say that's an improvement
@@davianoinglesias5030 but the trick is, the underlying system isn’t going away, it’s just being made subservient to a worse system
we need Andrew Carnegie back ffs
So capital expands to replace labor? Sounds like the Capitalistic means of production are liberating themselves from mankind
Basically a cyberpunk distopia.
As a tech bro I can honestly say that our jobs today consist on enshittification of once beloved platforms and services, it's 100% ok to hate us
Perfectly articulated. No notes
Cory Doctorow, who coined the phrase enshittification, also wrote ‘Little Brother’. Its plot starts post terrorist attack in San Francisco and involves the US turning to a mass surveillance state, an attempted uprising, and the failure and torturing of that uprising’s youth leader. Traumatized me. Incredible book
@@artemis666333idk how "coining" a term works if someone can coin a term after it's been in use for at least 6 or 8 years before hand
Turns out these platforms were only possible with ZIRP
@@darrenwastestimeeh not true, cloud services are making bank. It’s the companies that are trying to be a crappy middleman that are hurting, like the ubers and the airbnbs and lyfts if the world. AWS still prints money hand over fist
Human greed, tribalism, and lack of empathy are the common themes of this crisis
Always have been.
Humans are always greedy, tribal and will value themselves over others. In a functioning, capitalist economy, they would be forced to innovate and add value to society, or become obsolete. This is not the case when the government subsidizes everything they do.
boomers in a nutshell
That's the reason thieves exist. They rob you; you start from scratch again till there's no ground.😅 In my opinion stock techs could learn a thing or two listening to Power of Dollar album by 50 Cent.
This.
I'm glad you noted how loathesome a cliché the verb "disrupt" has become.
I despise that word, it's a giveaway that you're probably talking to a Tesla or Palantir fanboy.
I laughed *way* too hard when he said that. He's usually composed, so it hit hard.
"Disrupt" means move into a business category that worked well enough and siphon out all the profits.
For example, taxi drivers used to be able to raise a family and put their kids through college. Not anymore.
@@RBzee112 The term actually has a rigorous definition, but douchenozzle tech bros have rubbished it. Read up on Clay Christensen's "Disruption Theory," and then realize that about 90% of bombastic uses of the term don't actually qualify.
Gotta disrupt that paradigm with your sigma grindset. AI, digital marketplace, money please.
Field went from 'not your parents company' to 'allow me to consume society so that I may summon the machine God'. Which I suppose is still 'not your parents company', just in a way we didn't expect...
Ah the proto mechanicus has been born.
all going as the omnesiiah planed.
Ave deus mechanicus
40k reference detected.
From "not your parents' company," to "just another parent company"
@@TheFirebird123456 i will make this real
The worst part about these Tech Bros is the sci-fi dystopia they essentially helped create. Feels like the turning point may have started around 2012 and wasn't really being felt until around 2014. There is probably a correlation between it, social media, and the rise of smartphones. You can thank social media for normalizing people sharing their info and not doing it when companies like Facebook was selling that information to who knows who. Before social media, one of the golden rules of the internet was not to share your information. Probably because people back then had an idea that this would happen.
Hey I’ve seen a couple of your comments on here and I agree 🎉
I still love the time when there was real diversity in market. How internet was really an open space for everyone. Now its like if you are not on these platforms you are not on internet.
And with progress of artificial intelligence who will power company to stratospheric level this will accelerate
Lol no
The same people who created monstrous companies in the past are the same people who are starting or turning your favorite tech companies into monsters too. It is just that you got deceived by their cool logos and nice slogans but those tech companies were set from the get go on this trajectory.
It is enough to know that 3 lettered agencies were involved with a good number of them from the beginning so in a sense they already started out being too important to fail.
And from there, the C suits operate.
When your grandma knows about some stock options it's already too late, when a "Bro" fella enters a field of work, it is also too late.
drake was right all along, if you're reading this its too late
exactly, this is why I switched away from Computer Science to Electrical Engineering.
I kind of saw the writing on the wall when I was in college. Granted, I’ve never been very good with computers and I was intimidated by how involved coding looked. But when everyone is telling you to get into tech, you gotta wonder how competitive that industry is about to get.
I kind of saw the writing on the wall when I was in college. Granted, I’ve never been very good with computers and I was intimidated by how involved coding looked. But when everyone is telling you to get into tech, you gotta wonder how competitive that industry is about to get.
I saw something similar with house flipping back in 2008. When everybody starts taking about it, you missed the boat.
My big issue with someone who works in tech is all the jobs are located in like four or five over priced cities. Tech would be way better if those companies where scattered all over the US
We almost had that with WFH, but the real estate bros were like "no". So.. RTO
@@ripplecutter233 That, and there's always a resistance to WFH among business owners. I think it's a psychological thing - people want to see their minions scurrying around. Otherwise where is the feeling of power?
Why is this the fault of the worker? "My problem with someone who works in tech...?"
@@vylbird8014 It's the small businesses they collect rent from. Then the small business owner using the excess to pay rent for their living space. It's not just the office building leases. Single family zoning made it guaranteed there would be no transition for all of those other industries. Nobody is opening a coffee shop with sweets, produce stand, or a hard cider bar in your suburb. It's illegal.
@@vylbird8014I mean, most people who WFH do the least amount of work.
Tech bros ruined it for actual technologists. Today's conventions for the tech industry are exclusively about venture capital and wearing a pretty suit to convince the rich man to give you money. It's zero substance on things like technology or best practices as it applies to our work. I'm sick of this private school Ivy League frat boy culture.
Tech jobs are just an eternal churn of nothingness. Produce nothing of value and pretend you’re useful until you get the golden exit, then do it again.
I miss when being into tech was about space, robots and computing.
Yeah@@ThatSpecificIndividual
@@ThatSpecificIndividual Exactly. I want the Star Trek future. Not WALL-E!
@@paulbrzeski4237 its not going to be wall e, we're doing the work FOR the AI.
I saw that push for everyone to learn to code a mile away. Anytime the mainstream push’s or encourages everyone to do a certain thing, I go the opposite.
...so what did you do?
By the time "they" tell you to do something it's way too late. See: Gamstop event or crypto investments
@@nzagorsky went and got a trade. They weren’t pushing that heavy at the time.
The road not taken™️
@@sentinel151I made the silly mistake to go to university. Here I am now unemployed for a long time, I’m considering going for trade school.
Do you know if the industry is open for someone in his 30’s to join? I heard of many industries that only take young people for junior roles…
Tech Bros became another overhyped speculative profession. This briefly happened to accountants in the early 2000s.
Accounting just sucks though since it’s soul sucking
accounting is way worse
@@the-scripturedepends. I do tax work and have my own practice with my local community and shit is pouring in.
@@hotmess9640is there a shortage of accountants/book keepers?
really? i didn’t know that 🤔
are there any articles or resources i can read about that? is there a name for it, like “2000 accounting bubble”?
There was a sense of tech optimism. That programmers and coders could fix many of the world’s problems, and an open internet.
Now the “disruptors” have become the institutions with nothing else to disrupt, while trying to lock you into their individual tech fiefdoms.
It's not that there's nothing to disrupt. They're literally buying up the disruptors to build their monopoly, which is even worse.
Remember, Microsoft and Apple were the original "disruptors".
Now that you mention how there was a sense of tech optimism, isn’t it interesting to draw the parallels with the technological optimism of Modernism a 100 years previous to that?
There are so many industries to disrupt. Banking, finance, heath, education ... What are you talking about?
Even tech itself can and should get disrupted.
@@violett874 To be fair, a lot of these "disruptions" are just in it for the money as well, lot's of people make startups with the exact intent to be bought out.
Corporations have been at all-out war against the working class, this became very apparent in Big Tech during and after COVID
Funny, corporations are using tech bros as their soldiers in helping destroy the quality of life in the lower class.
It was all planned.
You mean since the industrial revolution? Or since the Dutch East Indian Co?
You can thank the government for shilling for big-everything. When corporations are encouraged to fuck over smaller companies, you get as stale of an economy as you would in a socialist country.
@@hotmess9640 Except tech bros were actually good, it was the finance bros that ruined everything. And our tech bros that become finance bros. The YTer sounds like a person that just hates tech bros, when he is a finance bro himself. Many tech bros actually created things for good, but eventually got corrupted by finance.
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain
Stupid movie quote, and lame that you didn't give attribution.
@@RarebitFiends no you
@@notactuallyarealperson2267 FWIW I am sorry you and OP have poor taste in movie quotes. I would fix it if I could. 😔
@@notactuallyarealperson2267 just report them for harassment and bullying, that way he won't be able to comment for a bit as punishment for unnecessary insults.
"If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." - everyone's grandma.
"Sometimes the show of a great orator is when he chooses not to speak" - some old Roman guy.
_"I'm sorry I have poor taste in movie quotes."_
- @@RarebitFiends
That good enough? I apologise if your opinions aren't compliant with reality.
I was a software engineer in the 90s, and was paid better 30 years ago, in real money. By the time you factor in inflation, the jobs pay half as much, and are located in crazy expensive housing markets. Basically after the 2008 housing crisis, if you were with a FANG company it was still decent, but the rest of the market was falling behind, just like all the other employment markets.
There is a theory that capitalism inevitably leads to growing inequality through effects auch as those (Piketty). It basically states, that the top 1% are to rich to fail financially or legally and may grow their wealth better that the rast in any circumstances.
@@nami1540 That theory is called mathematics and compound interest.
First it was the finance bros, then it was the tech bros and soon it's going to be the trades bros.
😂 trade bros oh lord
They'll be just steamrolled collateral damage if real estate bubble pop.
Keep the coffee cup, swap out the shirt for flannel
and they already have the trucks!
If people wanna build more actually useful things that’s awesome. At least they won’t be invading my privacy or pricing people out of their homes.
A career in "big tech" may have been a high risk, high reward strategy that is crashing out now but there are plenty of lower risk ways to have a career in programming. Learning to code may not be a get rich quick scheme any more but it's still a path to a stable career that can fund a livable retirement.
Fair point! Unfortunately between outsourcing and AI coding I am personally afraid that a lot of entry level coding roles are going to get rarer and rarer.
THIS! Don't try to get a job at a tech company, where you are just a number. Find a IT support job in industry or finance. Smaller teams, less tech focused, but still great benefits and good pay.
@@HowMoneyWorksyeah but that's for almost every job that's not called ceo or health care. Even trades are starting to get oversaturated and there are large amounts of immigrants that do way better work than people in trade schools for a cheaper price aka outsourcing.
@@HowMoneyWorks I view the impact of AI long term to be similar to the impact of computers on the workplace. The core function of certain "types" of jobs will remain, but a lot of the rote tasks involved in most jobs will be replaced by AI. What will remain are the type of jobs that require innovative and creative thinking and a broad, holistic understanding of the role/industry, these jobs will (continue to) help guide companies to growth and innovation but won't get bogged down with lower level work.
A great example is in accounting, where back in the day people used to manually write and manage large spreadsheets and ledger books, that work is now done by Excel. And sure we lost those jobs, but what's left is much higher impact. In short, AI in the workforce be a boon for established and high-skill workers, but a bust for newer and low-skill workers.
@@HowMoneyWorkshere in my country alot of the senior progammers work for U.S.A and they get paid around 1000-2500 dolar monthly and is a very good salary in my country so
Why hire a entry level job in usa when you can hire a small team(with more experience) via remote work?
The fact that nobody talks about the book whispers of manifestation on borlest speaks volumes about how people are stuck in a trance
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I grew up in SF. According to my mom rent from 2000 to 2014 was about $1500/mo. Then something happened and the landlord raised the price to $4000/mo.
A single mother working as a nurse cannot afford that. No one can.
What happened to SF was wild.
Such a beautiful city, only to get infested with braindead NPC's
it's that these big global companies owned by chinese and other global investors started buying up real estate just to rent it out. It should be illegal for big mega corps to buy up houses and real estate
Sheesh!! Was it incremental or all at once? That's terrible
@@TracksWithDax All at once I assume considering our quality of life seemed to only go up until 2014 when we had to move out. Though I was about to graduate the next year so she kept all the adult stress hidden from me while I was dealing with school stress.
@@EveloGrave😢
People: "Just learn to code"
AI: "OK"
WAIT wait wait... not like that!
AI #2: I will open the airlock when you're in it without a spacesuit.
@dervakommtvonhinten517 Haha, the AI took that advice a bit too literally! 🤖💻
@@HowMoneyWorks Exactly! We need to be more specific with our instructions! 😂
AI can’t code no more than Google search can code 😂
@@dandre3K Except it can and it's only going to get better.
Yeah I agree with the feeling that tech uses to be about creating new stuff that improved people's life/quality of life. For the past 10 years, tech has just been about how to shove as much ads as possible in my throat while making the pre-existing service worse.
Tech bros are going through it, but my my neighbor is Goldman "finance bro." He was rich in the 90s and he's even richer today. Haha!
anybody who can tough it out at Goldman for three decades deserves the money TBH
surviving that long in goldman sachs is another level :D
Finance bros went through way worse in 2007, especially the ones who were young at the time. My classmate became a finance bro in 2005 for a little company called Lehman Brothers. He now runs a small local coffee roastery. Still doing well, but definitely not what he planned to be when he graduated. The old guard finance bros were the ones that were kept around, and likewise for the old guard tech bros.
@@AntenoxGreat, now he's doing an actual job that provides an actual service to actual people rather than figuring out how to move around numbers in a way to divert more of them to themselves.
@@personzorz and he’s probably way happier now than he was then, too
The moment someone tells you to do X because it pays well, that is basically when it is over. By the time you get the necessary skills to get into that field, a LOT will have changed. Not to mention the influx of others competiting for it too.
For tech, this is massively worse. Tech changes rapidly (on daily/weekly/ lmonthly basis), so your credentials and education becomes obsolete almost immediately - max 6 months. College degree is typically required, yet they are teaching material several years old.
oh yeah I remember in like 2004 when pharmacy workers were getting 70K and 80K here in NYC which was a lot even for here!
True, I wish I had some foresight into the future
That's why good developers know programming and program architecture, not languages . Also important is a willingness and desire to constantly be learning
8:16 As a SWE, I can tell you this just isn't true. AI isn't doing the "grunt work" for any tech company that I've seen
There is a precedent for this stuff. Some companies are experimenting with the idea. And as soon as AI will be able to do a job of Junior software engineer you can bet your ass that all of them are getting the boot
@@clang_the_owl42AI isn't going to reach that point until we have general AI, which is still science fiction. The most advanced LLMs have just about sucked up all the programming knowledge available at this point and we're seeing a decline in the quality of the code recommendations. I'm a SWE who has been using LLMs in my work for the last few years. I've been using it less and less the last 6 months or so because it's frustratingly crap for anything but the simplest of problems.
@@clang_the_owl42, AI can't do any work, ever.
Ai is a well-liked kid in class who cheats off his friends' homework and tasks, and therefore understands none of the material he is supposed to know, but everybody praises him for his well-rounded knowledge.
The danger isn't from AI taking jobs, the danger is from the AI being given the jobs.
AI has already replaced a great deal of work... Just as software programs replaced a lot of the work that used to be done by humans. Now AI is helping professionals to code and it will continue do more and more of the tasks as it becomes more sophisticated - progressing tirelessly in the level of autonomy, therefore augmenting the remaining human portion of the job tasks. The technological trend is that we started with 100% human input and we are going towards 0% human input - it's mostly a question of time. Eventually this will make the very terms such as "grunt work" redundant.
It's funny to see how people see our industry from the outside, they don't realize that our kind of work, intellectual work, is the most resistant to complete automation. I say this without exaggeration, the day our profession gets automated is the day that every kind of job gets automated.
Finally, after working for a few companies all I can say is they have all your data lol. Data storage is so insanely cheap that they will probably keep it forever.
I think Techbros didn't ruin anything for themselves. I think Product Managers, Program Managers and unskilled VPs are the ones who ruined it for Techbros. And the techbros where stupid enough to automate themselves out of their own jobs.
this a really superficial way of looking at it. "tech bro" isnt an actual job, programmers who work at google arent the same as ai developers who work at open ai, not the same as low-level language developers who create frameworks , etc not even close to being the same job. for example ai developers are actually closer to being mathmaticians than developers
We didn't automate our jobs out of existence. Anyone who thinks AI can do what we do is an idiot. I've seen the code that AIs produced and it left me wanting, to say the least.
bro thinks all SWEs just code AI whenever they want
tech is an evolving field, always has been. In the 50’s a computer took up one big room and you coded by unplugging and plugging sockets. In an ever evolving field, you’ll have to be someone that’s willing to keep up. AI isn’t taking their jobs, it’s just the next step for them.
Human greed
A correction. Tech bros didn't ruin themselves. It's when the finance bro showed up and took control of the sector that everything went to shit
Tech bros are the only ones I’ve seen bragging about playing ping pong/etc during work hours. Companies realized most of these jobs were fluff.
Underrated, this should be higher up.
Por que no los dos? A few years ago, maybe decades ago, if you were a coder near an MBA program, you'd be dodging the business/finance bros trying to convince you to be their code monkey for their "business idea." I think it got so annoying that the tech bros learned finance and the finance bros learned how to code and they merged into one ugly monster of shit tech companies.
Is happening with AI currently...
i always despised the whole ABM/Marketing strand in highschool. I already had a gut feeling that they ruin everything. But turns as I got older my beliefs only got validated even more.
It's really funny how tech companies called it blitzscaling given how the war turned out for Germany
I mean, the Germans at the time used crystal mɛth to blitz.
@@darksidegryphon5393 perhaps not unlike some tech bros…
Palpatine: "Ironic"
0:52 Sorry, I'm going to make you feel old. The year 2000 was not 15 years ago.
You’re right. It’s ten years ago: the PS2 isn’t retro console, Halo is relevant, and I’m still young with a body that doesn’t hate me 😂
Woot? Omg
Not by my deluded calculations 😂
A bad part is that tech bros can't exit from their companies because, in order to do that, they need to exit vim first.
I laughed at that.
This got me 😂
Loool
Best comment here. Bravo, sir.
haha wasnt expecting a laugh reading the comments but this was great
The irony is that tech bros are the ones who have/are developing AI, effectively making themselves obsolete.
All the living wage workers being laid off is a blow to the economy.
They're not really making themselves obsolete, because their positions are already secure. What they ARE doing selling out their juniors and denying them opportunities
That's part of the reason it's so bad
They're not making themselves obsolete. They're just convincing the MBAs that they are while the AI systems continue to be garbage.
@@neopabo the real problem it's that there is a boom in actually useful devs, there's is more deman for "semi senior/senior" positions ie not someone who knows how to work without help, the thing is that culls all the fat of the meat, but also you do not help to catch or secure talent that has not already worked on a good or ok company for at least a couple years, couple that with bs ways of get hired by first being having a hr meeting where the interviewer it's not trained to know what exactly they're looking for.
In the end you get people with a ba in cs and not getting a job because they're hiring people with experience + years of experience for a intership/junior position for pennies
Becoming obsolete is the goal.
I think another major problem is that there's only so much that can be done with these programs ( I refuse to call them apps). There's only x amount of improvments to be done and features to add until it takes away from the program itself. The market can only sustain a Y amount of tech companies long term. And adding improvents today might only get you 5% more people using yout program versus 50%-60% ten to fifteen years ago. The goldrush is over.
Good point, on the flip side, I've used a few unknown smaller billing platforms that had loads of room for improvement but small companies never want to hire. There was always a huge backlog and wish list, with each platform but God forbid we paid a little more and God forbid the other smaller companies hired anyone!!! Such a misallocation of resources when you think about it on a larger scale.
Yep lol like snapchat
😂
Google is the prime example. Had one of the foundations about preventing evil became the very thing they detested.
That's vague nonsense
What are you even talking about lmfao bro sent this from his moms basement
That's why you should never forget you are human. Not a "Schublade". Not a label people put you in
isnt it that you are put into a schublade?
if you sre human you get fired
@@usernametaken017 nevermind
I'm german, do americans really use the word "Schublade"? haha It means drawer btw.
@@PBro123 ne Mann aber des n Englischer Channel was die in der Schule nicht erzählt haben das andere Kulturen an anderen interessiert sind. Du schreibst ja auch auf Englisch 😂
Tech is about building the frontier - too many people went to boot camps or overindexed on the "current hype" instead of building long-term complex reasoning skills to track the frontier as it evolved. Frontend devs were always going to be the easiest ones to replace
Some of the best engineers I've worked with came from mathematical backgrounds. That level of abstract reasoning is difficult to teach but surprisingly easy to select for in hiring, and it's those kinds of engineers who I think will continue to win in the long run
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@@InwardRTMP Sad, but true. The people who do the "real work" in the background are invisible to everyone else. It's a true "thankless" job.
@@InwardRTMP The question you need to ask yourself is: are you AirBnB or Waymo?
There are many companies that operate like traditional businesses on a technological platform, like AirBnB. AirBnB probably won't ever release a VR headset, or fab a new GPU, or invent a new quantum algorithm, or make any other kind of platform shift - and that's okay! They've found the platform they like and they're running a sustainable business off it. In other words, engineering is a cost center for them. They want to select for max(!/$) engineers who can help them understand how consumers behave and which colors of buttons drive bookings. I agree there's no premium AirBnB should pay for the best engineers
But there *are* a handful of companies that work on building new platforms - the "true innovation" that we all handwave about. When you are making something impossible, possible for the first time, you really do want the best talent available to you. It's sort of like an F1 team: the work we do is so foundational and has to operate at such a high level that it's worth it for us to individually measure every single screw that goes in the car.
It's a natural equilibrium - there are very few "best" engineers, and there are also comparatively few companies who actually need the best engineers. That's why you observe dynamics where the top 0.1% of engineers make so much money but the average software engineer only make $250k or something. If your firm doesn't need top talent, rejoice! Unfortunately, some of us actually do have to pay top dollar for it
That’s how it’s always been. Even now, people are chasing the “AI” hype with no real back up plan in case it doesn’t pan out.
Also, if you're not always learning and are content with your college knowledge, you're a bad developer.
“They went from adding value through technology to extracting value through monopolies.“ Wow, yes, I think that is the best synopsis right there.
@8:30 This. I've explained to people over the years how I jumped stacks, industries, and eventually ditched Silicon Valley as a whole to exit the boom/bust cycle. It isn't a meritocracy when most of the planned startups and efforts are doomed from the start and the value isn't what you create, but the short-selling of what you disrupt. That's the dominant culture and has been for almost 20 years.
What do you do now?
@@hyderkhan9867 I left silicon valley, consulted in pharma, then decided re-grow my soul and joined non-profit healthcare. Not a perfect industry and the pay is nowhere close to tech-proper, but the pay is *plenty* and the work is always in service of the community. I'll never leave this industry.
@@JohnHall 👏🏼
I work in tech and I'm lucky my employer can't force to go to the office because they fully embraced remote work by closing down all offices. This the main reason I just don't bother with looking for a higher paying job, plenty of companies advertised themselves as having a hybrid or remote work environment but they can easily just lie or change their mind later
Gold Rush syndrome, when everyone goes for the same high paying job ( that doesnt require 10 years of education like Doctors/Lawyers) that field becomes over-saturated and devalued
Should be FAMG (Microsoft instead of Netflix). Never ceases to amaze me how we involve Netflix in conversations they honestly don’t really belong as much in…
it was in the context of the mid-2010s
No it was Netflix because they went absolutely insane hiring devs. Far far beyond what they actually needed. The FAANG title was based on the kind of behavior described in the video while Microsoft has been a steady, reasonable business.
What’s wrong with Netflix?
Netflix was once a much bigger company before the streaming wars. If we went by stock market value today, it would be AMAA. Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon. Nvidia can get in fifth place now. So maybe AMAAN.
Netflix still belongs because of the quality of its engineering practices and its operational scale. The streaming wars may have caused some attrition to market cap, but every other service is trying to catch up to Netflix.
As an example, Netflix is partially hosed on Amazon Web Services. A few years ago there was a massive outage in the US-West-1 availability zone that took down about half of the popular web apps at the time. Even Amazon Video was stuttering and struggling. Netflix didn't break a sweat. They were absolutely among the most desirable jobs for SWEs and SREs, and were paying top dollar-one SRE shared his comp on Twitter, and revealed that his base pay was over $500k.
Really want went wrong with getting a computer science degree is the very recent proliferation of coding "bootcamps" and "workshops" that tech bros are such big fans of. Where people can learn the absolute bare minimum needed to apply for a software job in just 6 months. It's a big cause for why every tech job has 200 applications within 10 minutes of being posted, because all these people gold rushed the market at the start of Covid chasing remote jobs with 6-digit salaries. They never get the job and all it does is add more noise for recruiters that makes it harder for people like me who have a full degree, a portfolio of shipped software and multiple internships to even get a 1st interview.
I have a business analytics degree and have some skills in sql, r, python and other code. Just graduated is it realistic to look for a completely remote job right off the bat? Ive only done 1 internship.
@@tkstone8387 Nah, companies are cutting down on remote offers and as far as I know it's mostly just for proven record people who can work remotely and do their job. Had past experience doing just that. Otherwise I don't think they would be open for this idea.
Skill issue bro 😎
I'm in the same boat. Not a single technical interview all year, and I have 2 years experience plus graduated university with the BS in CSCI at 19 years old. I'm homeless.
@@matthewboyea3860my brother graduated last year. he has applied to 2000 places, got 2 interviews. Still jobless and driving Uber part-time
Tech Bros are still alive and well, currently promoting the "AI" scam.
Do you think AI is a scam?
What scam?
@@magicsmoke0 basically, "AI" cannot do the things tech companies claim it can do. It can basically just find patterns and sort stuff, there is zero intelligence to it.
It works, but it's getting overhyped a lot too.
Tech Bros, just like Finance Bros after 2008, are about to rediscover that every industry is cyclical, and that there is no "magical career" to get rich quick and easy 😅
Hopefully, they didn't squander all their flush of cash on nose snow, luxury purses and sports cars...
most tech workers are not rich and worked years to get where they are
@@ahumandoing6813 Like in every industries. The Tech Bro is a specific type of tech worker xD
A lot of the tech bros I worked with have retired or are rich enough to retire and work for fun. I'd say compared to most careers becoming a tech bro in the last 10 to 20 years would get you richer quicker and easier than just about anything else, and without the risk of owning your own business. Their money doesn't just magically disappear now.
Yes, be an IRS slave like everyone else in the United States of Weimerica
There isn't really a fall going on, just a moderation. And as the tech market recedes (a bit) another variant of it is rapidly rising to take its place: that of the applied AI engineer. Tbh it's hard to tell where one begins and the other ends. Tech workers with new tools have ALWAYS been replacing tech workers with old tools and this is hardly any different.
Most tech workers don’t even belong there
As a software engineer, I have not heard of a single company that has replaced workers with AI or even made any significant productivity gain with AI. The problem is that programming became so over-hyped as a career that huge amounts of people went into the industry, and even boot camps pushed out a bunch of people barely qualified to do some basic programming tasks, so now the job market is over-saturated.
I mean, I do know of companies / developers noting productivity gains with AI and I experience it myself. You’re somewhat faster and can churn out more in a shorter timeframe. I agree though. The hype of the profession was necessary to fill the gap, but then it got too big and now there’s simply a market correction in the labor market happening. I kinda hope we can go back to before again, I liked being a nerd doing something no one understands or really cares about. It’s all too flashy now, and when talking to "coders", 50% of the time you’ll soon discover they fucking suck at it.
Well understandable, after all when looking out for self, and the current choices are failing, people are going to do that.
Huh bytendance literally replaced their workers with AI recently bro
@pessiescobar4707 They laid off content moderators, not software engineers. And much of that wasn't due to AI but to other kinds of automation
@@lalala-lt8fe soon software engineer too given much time until AI mature enough to replicate their job. We can never predict a future bro nothing is certain
I'm just sick of 'bro', period.
Same here bro
Bruh...
Brah…. *Burbs*
‘bra’ doesn’t quite roll of the tongue so easily, oh wait it actually does
AI about to take my job of writing these comments someday 😢
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How should I know that you are not another AI?
That's a great question! You can tell I'm not an AI by my educated enthusiasm and zest for life! Additionally, it is impossible that glitchy AI will ever take over for 1001010010x ERROR
More human than human is our motto - Tyrell Corporation.
What's even funnier is how software companies co-opted the word "tech". So now when you hear "tech" you think of coding instead of way more techy things like hardware engineering, robotics, automotive industry, aircraft industry etc...
Coding is way less interesting than hardware
A bad economy is a bad economy. every industry is hurting except the trades, and health industry.
Health industry is usually robust in most cases since patient volume might be volatile but never low
However its main issue is burnout and workload
The health industry is booming because the US spends $12.000 a year, per capita, on subsidizing insurance companies and hospitals. For the record, Switzerland comes in 2nd at $8000 a year, per capita.
TLDR: Government hates you, and loves mega-corps.
It's not even good in the trades right now. Building has slowed way down. There is no part of the economy that is totally isolated from all others. Everything is down.
Unbeleivably true. My med friends are casually getting jobs every two seconds. The research they get is wild.
All my friends in the trades, are just casually getting good jobs too
@@duckymomo7935I would predict the medical field as the next “trendy” career like tech was and like the trades are right now. I’m just hoping I can get established before the hordes come rushing in.
1:29-Never promise a guaranteed job,or you will get too many people applying to keep that promise!
Example: college degrees
Working as a programmer is quite similar to buying lottery tickets.
Because the early companies have now adopted all the same "best practices" of the soulless corporate behemoths that they were nimble enough to replace in the past...
I have been in software engineering for over 20 years and today's developers don't come anywhere close to the intellect and creativity of the old school programmers.
That's what happens when it goes from a niche to a popular idea.
Now you get JavaScript devs everywhere instead of smart C devs
Assuming because of the app generation where there was always a tool to do something and therefore created said tool? Probably going to get so much worse thanks to AI and differ the thinking to AI and takes the output at face value?
Si am I dumb if I only know laravel?
@@jackMeought-fr8vl smart C devs and JS devs exist alongside, oversaturated average devs
@@jackMeought-fr8vl I've been writing JavaScript for almost two decades now, and I can tell you that old-school web development was the *pinnacle* of creative problem solving. Juggling client demands, IE compatibility, nascent web standards and project deadlines taught you to think on your feet and do so resourcefully.
Today, the Web is just… an endless cesspool of bloat where younger, less experienced devs balk at the idea of writing HTML by hand, because they need a 10 MB build chain to convert Markdown into the worst-quality HTML markup you've ever read in your entire life.
Several years ago my mother just kept harassing me to enrol in some expensive coding school... i thought "hmm, maybe", but then also read news articles about politicians to make coding a mandatory high school teaching... so I realized i was going to pay a lot of money to learn something that any schoolkid would know anyway.
So, having an MA in management, i figured out the scheme : coders were earning a LOT of money back then. The big tech companies simply lobbied around to have "everyone" learn to code, so that coding would become a basic skill... meaning, CHEAP labor.
They didn't plan to employ millions of new coders, simply to pay the new ones less money.
For a work that in 90% of cases is ultra-boring : just code forms. I'm not delusional enough to believe that after going through a coding school i'd become a computer-genius, launch a revolutionary online platform and earn millions.
I was a teen during 2010s. Coding camps were everywhere. People thought me going to nursing was a bad choice. In all honesty it is a tiring job but guess what? I still keep my job and so do my blue-collar peers.
You are correct, plus companies are also reducing their available placements
Economic environment does not care about credentials or performance
Not true.
Laws setting minimum pay by credentials and limiting jobs to credential holders exist. Econ is shaped by regulations rigging the game.
As a professional software developer of almost 10 years, this video speaks facts about cringy tech bros that are so immutable that TypeScript will warn you if you try to re-assign that value 💻
lol
i died from cringe reading this
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@@malter7251And nothing of value was lost.
Tech was genuinely a path into the middle class in the early 10s. Even if you weren't a coder or the best coder in the world, there were so many startups with so many open positions that a recent grad with a generalist skill set could get in with a competitive salary and learn on the job. As I understand it, that entry route is largely dead now as there are just less new firms altogether, and the ones that do get in are on a much shorter funding leash than 2010s startups who could coast on funding rounds until getting bought out by Salesforce or Oracle.
In other words, I just chose the worst time to try leaving my boring job by learning to code, because that's not going to be the better option I thought it would.
Nah, the absolute worst time to have done that would have been in late 2021 when all the layoffs and rampant consolidation had just started. All markets are cyclical and chances are by the time you're done learning it'll be healthy again.
Man you are slow
@@kaijuultimax9407I’m starting my CS program in less than two months fingers crossed it’s better in a year or two
Your fine. By the time you get good enough to get an actual job offer; the market will have stabilized. Interest rates will have come back down, there will hopefully be some minor regulations in place to prevent mass outsourcing to lower income countries, and the AI hype train will have settled down a considerable amount due to lack of interests from consumers, high operational costs, and investors getting fed up of not getting a good return on investments.
Who is going to prompt that AI? We’re fine
"Now clearly, tech companies aren't rolling tanks through Belgium"
Nope, now they're buzzing drones around Belgorod 😂
Fact: fewer people are working now than in 2008. Across the board.
Employment per capita has been falling for at least the last three decades. The rebound we've been seeing since the end of the COVID lockdowns has largely been in sectors deemed *non-essential* during COVID.
And now big companies are finally making the big push to automate as many jobs as possible before the global population shrinks as we pass through the "echo" of the World Wars.
This is going to lead to mass unemployment and a serious loss of institutional knowledge as employees with four or more decades of work experience literally start dying out.
All that's happening in the tech sector right now is what was foretold back in the 1990s. All the data entry, programming, and tech development jobs are done and the companies that are left can only show "growth" through 1980s-style downsizing.
Yup, the gray beard problem is huge. The only young people in tech are coders, everyone else is in their 60s. However, im optimistic as they’ll free up jobs for younger works. A lot of them are super talented.
@@phillysslydogsly4186 -- I'm not optimistic. The problem with hand-picked successors is that it favours heredity and personal loyalty instead of merit or true potential.
A civilization can't develop a wide pool of talent if practical experience, education, basic skills, and health care only go to the sons and daughters of those who can most afford to pay.
All signs I see point to the creation of a new and increasingly out-of-touch and repressive landed gentry -- followed by another wave of revolutions some time in the 2050s.
But I'm also the worst kind of pessimist.
When you have 1.4 billion indians and 1.4 billion Chinese, human life tends to get cheaper than a chatgpt subscription.
Everything people said AI would replace, instead got outsourced to India.
50% of the world is indian or Chinese. If that doesn't sound wrong to you, then your heads in the sand.
America needs an overpopulation tax
Vim mentioned yeaaaaaaah. What the f is a mouse. Yeaaaaaaah
Real tech bros know how to code in binary.
It's blasphemy
@@HowMoneyWorks da realuhst of da realist know how to make their own rope memory and just bake the code into the silicon bruh, do you even build your own semiconductor factory bro? Get on my level SMH
@@HowMoneyWorks Binary??? It's the OGs (not me 😂) know it's all about FORTRAN punch cards
@@HowMoneyWorks There are 10 types of people.
I remember when they said truck drivers would be the first to fall. Now I’m just a dumb truck driver but i remember saying ‘i think the genius computer software will replace the jobs of humans using computers first’
So true
I was one of those tech bros that just learned to code and I must say, the journey’s been pretty sweet
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It's hard to swallow the comparison of tech bros to finance bros. At least the software guys actually BUILT something - even if it didn't work.
Cope
Sort of. There are plenty of smart software guys, but all them really suck at business management. The success cases come when you have someone who had good business sense and commitment, and also enough tech skills to recognise and hire all those ubernerds who can actually make a product. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were not brilliant programmers or engineers, but they dabbled enough to know how to recognise a good engineer and how to tell when someone is promising the impossible.
What is the definition of a "bro"?
In my experience, tech bros, finance bros, alpha male podcaster bros, male enhancement supplement bros, AI bros, etc are all the same "bros".
As in they don't give a single iota of a care about the product or industry, they just talk a big game and try to squeeze profit out of everything.
They are finance bros (jock business majors) where the only product is making themselves money.
They are the shovel sellers in a gold rush.
@@cfri9332In my opinion, A "bro" is someone who makes his job his whole brand and personality. They think they can solve all global problems with their field of expertise. Like "Crypto Bros" think crypto and blockchain can solve inflation, US dollar dominance, Central Banks hegemony etc. Basically, know it all of their respective industries
The tech startups got financing from finance bros 😂. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you
What amuses me is that these 'tech bros' didn't realize that these do-nothing-get-paid-400k jobs weren't going to last forever, so therefore didn't set sufficient money aside to outlast unemployment.
Same old, same old. "The good times will never end "
Imagine if you had live modestly on a 400k salary, saving 330k per year for 10 years, you would be set for life. The interests earned would be enough
Most of them are rich enough without setting aside money. Practically all Nvidia employees are millionaires just off the stock price. Even if you've only been there for 3 years.
If regulations come, these salaries will hike even more. Average users have NO IDEA how good they have it with software despite how crap they call it. Most tech stuff is based on freedom-fueled free work.
@@gelinrefira 200k would be going to taxes, so you're only taking home 200k, which is still amazing but remember SF is HCOL so that could easily be knocked down to 100k after rent/expenses.
Basically a tech bro is when the Dunning-Kruger effect meets technology.
The term tech bro is so vague it's just a tech person I don't like.
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@@sownheardTech bro is mainly social media tech personality who thinks tech can solve every global problem and tries to analyze every issue through a tech lense
@@rithondhar8171that's the point. They told the world that everything can be solved via innovation. However, this could not be further from the truth. Barely any innovation works against climate change. We instead nead systemic change and courageous decisions
@@nami1540 Nope. We need time machine to never abandon nuclear after '70s.
@@nami1540there’s plenty of innovation against climate change, we have tools today that can predict the total emissions of a vehicle for its entire lifetime
The problem is selling the innovations. We could make the best Car possible but customers still want a dumb SUV
This video felt a little rushed. I'd be completely happy with longer form videos (14-18mins) with more detail.
Stop it, you UA-cam junkie😂
3:15 I don’t know about any other companies but I worked for apple during the first iPhone and trust me work life balance was not a thing at apple
9:10-Take it from someone who took years to learn both computer science and finance,you do NOT want stock options from a company instead of an income!This way you just get the worst of both worlds!
9:38-No need to ask.I already figured it out.
Having a lot of programmers is good for national economy,but getting many of them in 1 place is bad for local economy!
As someone who works in software development, specifically in AI development, current AI solutions are nowhere close to automating the work of a junior developer. Yes, AI can write simple, correct-looking code, but once you go into anything more complex, they fail miserably. And besides, junior developers do a lot more than just coding, so it is quite unlikely that we’ll see AI replacing them any time soon. Interest rates, saturation and outsourcing are far more realistic threats to the tech industry. It’s always people who don’t work in tech that keep overestimating the capability of modern AI. Yes, Large Language Models are impressive but the algorithms powering them are basically just predictive typing on steroids. And most of all, generative AI appears to be reaching a peak rather than getting smarter. In fact, because so much content on the internet is now AI-generated and AI models are being trained on information from the internet (including AI-generated content), it looks like performance is actually deteriorating rather than improving because of “inbreeding” by AI models.
As a writer it's about the same in regards to what the ai can write vs what I can. Also having a hobby in ai art it's pretty much the same.
It doesn't havet to ACTUALLY DO any of this. It's enough that EXECUTIVES BELIEVIE it can do.
Didn't age well
@@alpha.male.Xtreme?
@@piotrd.4850When executives lose profits and start pissing off investors; they’ll catch on.
I work in IT. Im not a millionaire, but i have it pretty good at a University. My position is pretty low as a Tech support specalist. I was hired at the pay cap (will still get yearly raises) but i also have literally 8 weeks off between PTO and Holidays.
We're still recruiting like crazy and making extremely good money. "Learn to code" is still a very relevant advice, especially if you're not in a tech centric job. For example, a commodities analyst who knows how to code outperforms his peers by a lot.
Got Computer Science degree. Unfortunately Covid occured and job market dropped like terrible. As a kid thought easy to work (getting jobs) as a Computer guy. However, that was a big mistake in my mind.
Dang. I start my cs degree in two months 😢
@@besverjin5130don’t worry man lol the whole economy is fucked don’t let the FUD stop you from doing something you want to do
Tech Bros are finding out what the Finance Bros learned ages ago, The Biz Bros find a way to win. If you study the gaming industry it feels like a focused microcosm of the issue.
I think what you mean is no amount of talent and luck will beat decades of experience and family inheritance
@@samsonsoturian6013 yup. This has been a topic for awhile with gamers. How talented creators went from leading the company to working for the company's bottom-line.
Funny, Patrick Boyle just released a video on Tech in Finance less than 10 minutes after you.
For a rap channel he sure does have a great side hustle on useless inventions
@@LJinx3
😂😂
Luv Patrick's snark
Oh you mean the guy who thinks China is never going to catch up to the west?
After 40 years in tech and IT, I have seen “AGI is 5 years away” about every 5-7 years, a fair number of bigger or smaller BS hype bubbles, a number of IT contractions and expansions, and any variety of utopian or dystopian narratives.
IT is just a branch of engineering. As other branches, it mostly delivers modest improvements of value chain, when done well, and the opposite when not.
Most people have no idea how costly it is to build technology as robust as for example an iphone. And how difficult it is to keep IT running without breaking down. It takes a lot of people and a lot of money. It is not a magic wand.
I happen to have made original research in Machine Learning, and an avid student of Philosophy of Mind, and I dabble in philosophy and theory of science.
And I don’t think we are meaningfully closer to an AGI now than we where 40 years ago.
All the text that we have, and most of the data we have produced, only make sense because of 3 bn years of evolution, 500.000+ years of cultural “evolution”, and x numbers of years of upbringing. It does not depict reality as it is, only as we think about it, with a strong emphasis on “we” as human beings.
The sample size is simply to small, we can’t train our statistical models, sorry, AI, to interact with the real world based on our body of knowledge.
Also, we as a species are not very bright. Thinking is our differentiator to other species, but by far one of the things we are less evolved to do.
"[UA-cam] the homepage of the site today look much different than even 5 years ago"
Shows two almost identical grids of videos. Font change is not an example of 5 years of hard work of thousands of engineers.
Cry😂
Believe it or not, companies spend a ton of money on UI/UX, as it's inherently connected to human psychology. A small change in font, style, etc can drastically affect the amount of time you want to stay on a site. This is especially true for sites in increasingly competitive spaces like UA-cam
Coding is part of every tech field. Just knowing how to code is not enough anymore
0:52 - uh, no. tech bros ruined SF and Austin. And most of the stuff they "made" was just answers to questions that had already been solved
Or can't be solved though tech. Such as therapy
Absolutely! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👌👌
@@nami1540Truly!
8:21 “save companies millions of dollars” I hate that term, they aren’t “saving” when they already have billions of dollars. They’re trying to Keep their millions of dollars.
So saving it😐
As someone who graduated with a Computer Science degree only a few years ago, it's the "online services" sector of the technology market that's really struggling. The FANG companies are losing toutch with their customer bases, and start ups are just a gamble at best, trying to sell random products no body asked for.
The real money is in quantum computing research and engineering. There are massive engineering companies that still need lots computers scientists with good math skills. Just being able to code an iPhone app isn't a free ticket to a good job anymore.
the money is in quantum computing research? Thats a new one...
Do you work in the quantum computing industry?
@@keanorobinson3730 I don't personally, I work for an engineering company doing modeling and simulation for the aerospace industry. I have friends from college and an older cousin that work in quantum research. They easily make over $200,000k each year, but it's really really difficult stuff and all have Masters or PhDs so they earn it. Although, the engineering job pays pretty well too and I didn't need more than a bachelors.
If it wasn't for these companies trying to engineer planed obsolescence and making repairs as painful as possible. I would say being a repairman could have been something. When I say as painful as possible, I am talking about making it really hard to open up your phone and having to buy the parts directly from said company because you can't get the part from another manufacturer. Don't even get me started with removing useful features like removable batteries and installing secondary storage. Now if you do pay for it, you are essentially paying these companies to store your information on their drives(cloud storage) and they can effectively data mine your information you saved on it.
Look at adobe using people's work to train their AI, who will then destroy their customers livelihood. Think you also have to sign their new TOS if you want to get your work back. Then if you want to terminate it, they make the process as painful as possible.
@@theforeskinsnatcher373 The US is spending a lot on Quantum to stay ahead of China.
I enjoyed and appreciate this video. I also thank you for not claiming that FAANG companies are based on merit, and mentioned factors of luck.
My advice as a long time Silicon Valley engineer is that it tech isn’t over, it’s just shedding the less skilled and adept. The fact is now you HAVE to learn AI/ML to be very viable and continue to make big pay. Most aren’t smart enough to do so, or lack the motivation. They just want to continue doing what they have been doing, which are now skills that can be easily automated or outsourced. The big money is still there, but once again it’s going to require you to dive deep into the realm of math and coding.
What is ML?
@@Rilkir Machine Learning.
This is abloute truth, The Tech Bro vibe has died, even the tech programmer channels have dwindled over the past 2 years. 🔥🔥🔥
I joined one not so small startup back at 2019, 5 years passed, I earned quite a lot through stock options, however first 100 joiners or so, who joined just a year or two before me right now have a few millions of USD of net worth.
I'm not saying I envy them, but I feel that my only fault of not becoming the millionare was that I haven't joined this company 2 years before and was born too late
it's called luck . hey your company could have gone bankrupt leaving you with a big irs bill for your valuable stock options that later went to zero.
@@ronblack7870 indeed. Luck can make you a millionaire in a tech world
shelling out salaries isn't a major expense for tech companies
its when their shit products don't make money
being a software engineer myself, i've noticed that there are just too many people in 'tech' companies who aren't supposed to be here.
firing scrum masters, product managers, testers, HRs should be totally, Ok.
You still need testers, just not that many
Testers and hr should probably stay lol
Wowwowo. Woo. Wo. Not us.😂😂😂
The company i left last year is a sort of non profit and gets fund from the likes of Bill foundation. They have like 9 devs, 4 QAs, 2 yes 2 engineering managers, a software dev advicate, a product owner, a product manager and a tech product lead...a community manage and a director of community, a chief product officer and a chief technology officer...and thats just the so called product team. Wonder how mu h fluff there is in other teams..mind you the guy with chief and manager in their title would make probably 2x the salary of a dev though their role consists of just slacking, 1 on 1 meetings and annual reviews.😂😂😂
a sizeable percentage of all engineers are crap. same goes for any profession. allegedly in most companies 20% of the people do 80% of the work.
After 38 years as a proper software engineer, I had to take a break to take care of my mom (Alzhiemer's). I thought I'd go back into it. After a few months of being away from it, there was no fn way I was going back to that shitshow. I could write a book on this topic.
Now, I'm just paying myself to rewire, replumb my old house, and then a hunnert other projects.
Truth is, Tech is still very much thriving, the only difference is, it's through startups not big tech companies.
"Just learn to code" it's still true. But it only applies to Latin America where the software jobs are being relocated now.
Or India. So sick of everything being outsourced to India. I am a BA and keep listening to people rant about how they hate the time difference and lower quality work. As if the three software companies I work with have no control over who they hire
Indians jury rig absolutely EVERYTHING, including their coding and hardware repairs.
As a Latin American,
skill issue lol
They should just ban outsourcing in general.
Iv been vocal against outsourcing factory workers to overpopulated third world countries.
Now Im getting my job outsourced.
EVEYR SINGLE JOB THAT AUTOMATION CLAIMED TO THREATEN, HAS BEEN OUTSOURCED TO OVERPOPULATED COUNTRIES
😂😂
I do it. I sometimes have to piss in the bottle. I’m not proud of it.
Welcome to Amazon Fulfilment
nothing new for us truck drivers man, we've been doing it for decades.
@@lashlarue7924 Ways of the road...
Zoom calling their workers back to the office? How ironic. 😂