If the Browns can find consistent QB play, they have a real chance of rebuilding that franchise. But I don’t know if Winston is the guy. But, I wish him well.
Bad take bro… that wasn’t not the same team in Tampa that Tom won the bowl with.. 👎🏽 they upped their o-line and every player that scored a single point (kicker and all) in the SB was not on the team when Jameis was. Look it up.
We tanked in 2017. Baker is in Tampa. I will never be ok with a tank job again. Never ever again. I’ll take 9-8 missing the playoff this year rather a top 5 pick.
Here’s a thought for the Browns, surround Jameis with a good/healthy o-line, a #1 WR in the offseason/draft and a healthy RB1/2 and watch your offense take off! He’s throwing to NEW wr’s one which is a rookie, and the other 2 are ok at best under a new system. Although he doesn’t have the luxury of an offseason with this team he’s been making good with what he has.
You are a hater, Bull! The Browns are a horrible team. The defense showed up last night, but the offense was all on Jameis. You have "C" receivers and a "D" O-Line. Your running game is practically none existence. Jameis is making your entire team look good.
Winston is a lot like Baker ironically watch him,he’s semi mobile,can throw the ball deep has some really good games and some mediocre games he’s a mid range QB like Baker . I’ve read some of the comments about Baker having a losing record this season that’s mostly because Tampas defense is falling apart not Baker .
Yea tampa has a bottom 3 pass defense. Run defense I'd bad too. Baker is having another great season though. Think he has 26 tds already after 10 games
Winston isn’t very mobile. Baker is a faster scrambler and more slippery. Tampa’s defense absolutely has been bad though. And Baker unfortunately has lost two coin tosses in OT
Yes, and baker is a better qb than jameis what is your point lol brick oswieler was like 6'9 and one of the worst qbs ever. 😂 ( for the record I really like jameis, he is a huge upgrade from deshaun and a great leader) but he is not as good as baker
Winston just beat the top two teams in our division,Baltimore was looking like one of the best teams in the NFL I don’t personally think they are because Lamar will probably play average in the playoffs and get knocked out.He’s a no brainer to me and I’m not one of his biggest fans I think he’s very goofy but who cares he plays well enough right now to win games keep him for a couple years if you don’t have to break the bank to keep him.
Jameis could play the "bridge" role until we can develop a young QB. There is no cap space to go out and get a high-priced FA. Jameis is affordable, and if DW4 was not forced on Stef our record would be probably close to .500.
You all say that now until the team loses 4-5 in a row next season, then is't "Put the rookie in and let's see". Losing changes the opinion quickly. Winning and patience allows rookies to sit.
Jameis is a roller coaster qb for his career. Great arm talent but will force the ball into turnovers. He should finish out as qb1 and then the Browns can evaluate their qb options.
Ken Dorsey, Chad O'Shea, Callie Brownson, Bubba Ventrone, Duce Staley, Nick Charlton, Andy Dickerson, Roy Ivstan, and the entire defensive staff will get fired if Jimmy is bringing Paul, AB, and Kev
The general manager should work with the coach,I’m in favor of a GM/ Coach like Belichick was for a number of years then someone working with them on the player cap situations .It would eliminate what we have in Cleveland we don’t even know for sure whose idea it was to bring Watson in we think it was Berry but who really knows.
Bull, that is your reality. Watch the Jameis games in Tampa. You do not speak of Jameis in context. Baker was not good because he was with the Browns, a terrible organization with all of the talent in the world when Baker played for the Browns. The Browns Offense is terrible, accept for Jameis. Jameis played for a terrible organization in Tampa. Brady came into Tampa and changed the entire offense and coached the players as well as signed players.
Jesus Jay, Rodgers sat behind Favre who was still playing at a HoF level. Jameis is not. A rookie isn’t going to “learn” by sitting for 2 years. Just wasting further time
“Don’t turn the ball over” huh, baker was a turnover machine and y’all wanted to keep him. Basically you want Jameis to be a game-manager instead of an explosive playmaker. Checking down every play because you are scared of throwing a pick. This is why Brady said the league is at its worst in terms of qb play. Bunch scrambling QBs who do nothing but check down and scramble when their first read is covered
Brady turned the ball over as much as Baker had in his first 5 years. Brady had a 6 interception game. The difference was the Belichick defense. If it weren't for the "tuck rule", he would have had another turnover. The fumble in the Chiefs game might have been a franchise defining moment if it was flagged.
They would all do anything to have baker back at qb like most smart fans. But jameis is good, he's a gun slinger like flacco, baker, Favre, and other good qbs. Couldn't stand deshaun only throwing 5 yard passes
Biggest mistake browns made was trading baker away, he won cle a playoff game, and since the trade baker has won another playoff game,( browns and deshaun have not) baker also won his division, baker won probowl mvp, won the nfl precision passing competition, and heading into week 11 he led the nfl in passing tds and total tds. Baker is the only qb to beat the lions this year and is I great shape to go to the playoffs and win his division again.
@@cedricmcmillan8673 maybe u couldn't read all that. Since the trade the browns and deshaun have zero division titles, zero playoff wins, and deshaun has made zero probowls... meanwhile baker has won his division, won another playoff game, and won probowl mvp. The only loser is deshaun.
In a word? No. It was one game, Tomlin basically fumbled this game to the Browns and Winston, although he did play well and is surely a very likable guy and teammate, is wildly inaccurate in copious amounts of passes in the games. Let's not put TOO much emphasis on this game, please.
The funny thing is he has played 4 games. You are talking about it's one game but you are probably still only holding on to the Chargers game, which if my math is correct, is just one game.
Winston gives us a legit nfl qb and keeps us from being totally embarrassed every game. Way better than this dumpster fire 🔥
At least Jameis can make some plays.
If the Browns can find consistent QB play, they have a real chance of rebuilding that franchise. But I don’t know if Winston is the guy. But, I wish him well.
Bad take bro… that wasn’t not the same team in Tampa that Tom won the bowl with.. 👎🏽 they upped their o-line and every player that scored a single point (kicker and all) in the SB was not on the team when Jameis was. Look it up.
Winston has the team that Baker has. No Gronk, no Suh, no Antonio Brown, no Fournette.
Right. I hate when people have revisionist takes.
We tanked in 2017. Baker is in Tampa. I will never be ok with a tank job again. Never ever again. I’ll take 9-8 missing the playoff this year rather a top 5 pick.
Here’s a thought for the Browns, surround Jameis with a good/healthy o-line, a #1 WR in the offseason/draft and a healthy RB1/2 and watch your offense take off! He’s throwing to NEW wr’s one which is a rookie, and the other 2 are ok at best under a new system. Although he doesn’t have the luxury of an offseason with this team he’s been making good with what he has.
You are a hater, Bull! The Browns are a horrible team. The defense showed up last night, but the offense was all on Jameis. You have "C" receivers and a "D" O-Line. Your running game is practically none existence. Jameis is making your entire team look good.
Those C and D guys made Pittspuke look bad.
Did bull give most of the credit to jameis for the win. He did. Some people hear what they want I guess.
You heard exactly what you wanted to hear.
Thanks to Jameis they made the Steelers look bad.
Play Watson next two years, and build through the draft by building the offense and defense lines. NO DRAFTING QB until 2027
i wouldnt be mad at it
Winston is a lot like Baker ironically watch him,he’s semi mobile,can throw the ball deep has some really good games and some mediocre games he’s a mid range QB like Baker . I’ve read some of the comments about Baker having a losing record this season that’s mostly because Tampas defense is falling apart not Baker .
Yea tampa has a bottom 3 pass defense. Run defense I'd bad too. Baker is having another great season though. Think he has 26 tds already after 10 games
Winston isn’t very mobile. Baker is a faster scrambler and more slippery. Tampa’s defense absolutely has been bad though. And Baker unfortunately has lost two coin tosses in OT
Winston is a taller Baker Mayfield
Yes, and baker is a better qb than jameis what is your point lol brick oswieler was like 6'9 and one of the worst qbs ever. 😂 ( for the record I really like jameis, he is a huge upgrade from deshaun and a great leader) but he is not as good as baker
Jameis is fine for this season. He will be up and down, like most of his career.
Winston is at least the bridge quarterback until the high draft pick is ready to take over.
WInston is a good bridge guy. Maybe two years. He'll be fun. Draft a guy. Trade for a Kirk Cousins upgrade. Winston can be a good number two.
let’s just see how the rest of season folds with winston
Y’all still gon make excuses
Winston just beat the top two teams in our division,Baltimore was looking like one of the best teams in the NFL I don’t personally think they are because Lamar will probably play average in the playoffs and get knocked out.He’s a no brainer to me and I’m not one of his biggest fans I think he’s very goofy but who cares he plays well enough right now to win games keep him for a couple years if you don’t have to break the bank to keep him.
Someone needs to step in and address bull's health.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I like the guy and want to keep him around for a while.
Good afternoon, Kool aid Nation
Jamis Winston deserves a Deuce. Give him a two year deal. He is the puzzle piece that completes our current picture.
Jameis could play the "bridge" role until we can develop a young QB. There is no cap space to go out and get a high-priced FA. Jameis is affordable, and if DW4 was not forced on Stef our record would be probably close to .500.
Weak draft for a QB in the first round. Give Winston a few years. 1. Build up the o line. 2. Draft a young pass rusher in the 1st.
Jameis had a lot of potential in Tampa Bay, but he’s been on the bench for so long… 🤔
He earned it.
The biggest difference between Flacco and Winston is Amari Cooper.
Boy...
Yall sure won't let go of Flacco...😂
I could imagine you same fans living Ben Roethlisberger 🤦🏿♂️
I just don't understand...
@@henrygreene7274 I am not sure that your reply is in contexts.
Flacco 4-1, jameis 2-2, deshaun 8-10.
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Jameis doesnt have a number 1 receiver....the others did.
@@johndoe-yy7my I agree jameis is better than deshaun by far
We could grab that running back from Boise. Any playmakers on offense would be huge moving forward.
Agree! No qb in the draft anyway. Browns need to draft young studs for O line and D!
And Berry better make better draft picks or get him out of here
Can't let that dummy do another draft. He is clueless
Can't be sure where I heard it but some player said being in a huddle with Winston ...it's like he has a big secret and can't wait to tell you.
Browns fans could be let down when Vrabel and Jameis flea this offseason to a new team
You all say that now until the team loses 4-5 in a row next season, then is't "Put the rookie in and let's see". Losing changes the opinion quickly. Winning and patience allows rookies to sit.
The team wins one game and they completely flipped their attitudes. 24 hours ago they were all thinking blow up the front office and tear it down.
Give Conklin credit.. he was controlling Watt and hes been nice since coming back
Draft Will Howard from Ohio State in the 3rd or 4th round.
Jameis Winston can be the Alex Smith of the Chiefs.
Jameis is a roller coaster qb for his career. Great arm talent but will force the ball into turnovers. He should finish out as qb1 and then the Browns can evaluate their qb options.
Ken Dorsey, Chad O'Shea, Callie Brownson, Bubba Ventrone, Duce Staley, Nick Charlton, Andy Dickerson, Roy Ivstan, and the entire defensive staff will get fired if Jimmy is bringing Paul, AB, and Kev
The general manager should work with the coach,I’m in favor of a GM/ Coach like Belichick was for a number of years then someone working with them on the player cap situations .It would eliminate what we have in Cleveland we don’t even know for sure whose idea it was to bring Watson in we think it was Berry but who really knows.
I’m surprised Bull is able to perform on this show with his “addiction”
1 year deal for Jameis next year, he IS NOT the long term answer
Bull, that is your reality. Watch the Jameis games in Tampa. You do not speak of Jameis in context. Baker was not good because he was with the Browns, a terrible organization with all of the talent in the world when Baker played for the Browns. The Browns Offense is terrible, accept for Jameis. Jameis played for a terrible organization in Tampa. Brady came into Tampa and changed the entire offense and coached the players as well as signed players.
People act like those Tampa teams he was on had Leonard fourtnette, Gronk, prime AB and all pro RT Tristan whirfs lol
Tampa had missed the playoffs for 12 seasons before Brady showed up.
Jesus Jay, Rodgers sat behind Favre who was still playing at a HoF level. Jameis is not. A rookie isn’t going to “learn” by sitting for 2 years. Just wasting further time
The defense won it for the Browns, not Winston.
The defense is the one who gave up the points when we had the lead...what are you talking about?
Jameis > deshan. No doubt
I'd like to see the Browns take Kurtis Rourke out of Indiana in 3rd or 4th round. I see Kurtis as a Kirk Cousins type player.
Nah
Hilarious title! 🤣😂😂
Jay blocks Mikey, and talks, and talks to the end of the reel...
Browns are the same sinking ship & Stefanski still needs to go.
But….you very clearly are a hater.
Huh?
“Don’t turn the ball over” huh, baker was a turnover machine and y’all wanted to keep him. Basically you want Jameis to be a game-manager instead of an explosive playmaker. Checking down every play because you are scared of throwing a pick. This is why Brady said the league is at its worst in terms of qb play. Bunch scrambling QBs who do nothing but check down and scramble when their first read is covered
Brady turned the ball over as much as Baker had in his first 5 years. Brady had a 6 interception game. The difference was the Belichick defense. If it weren't for the "tuck rule", he would have had another turnover. The fumble in the Chiefs game might have been a franchise defining moment if it was flagged.
They would all do anything to have baker back at qb like most smart fans. But jameis is good, he's a gun slinger like flacco, baker, Favre, and other good qbs. Couldn't stand deshaun only throwing 5 yard passes
It's not a regret letting go of Baker. Jay keeps saying that. Baker has not done anything since leaving and now he has a losing record.
Biggest mistake browns made was trading baker away, he won cle a playoff game, and since the trade baker has won another playoff game,( browns and deshaun have not) baker also won his division, baker won probowl mvp, won the nfl precision passing competition, and heading into week 11 he led the nfl in passing tds and total tds. Baker is the only qb to beat the lions this year and is I great shape to go to the playoffs and win his division again.
jameis 2-2 with 8 tds, deshaun 1-6 with 6 tds 😂. After 7 games deshaun had 5 passing tds lmao... baker had 21 tds after his first 7 games 😂😂😂
@anthonypa8045 Baker has a losing record dummy. Jameis is playing with a fully healthy team, compared to Watson. Idiots like you just say anything
@@anthonypa8045 how is losing out on a loser the worst thing 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️.
@@cedricmcmillan8673 maybe u couldn't read all that. Since the trade the browns and deshaun have zero division titles, zero playoff wins, and deshaun has made zero probowls... meanwhile baker has won his division, won another playoff game, and won probowl mvp. The only loser is deshaun.
In a word? No. It was one game, Tomlin basically fumbled this game to the Browns and Winston, although he did play well and is surely a very likable guy and teammate, is wildly inaccurate in copious amounts of passes in the games. Let's not put TOO much emphasis on this game, please.
The funny thing is he has played 4 games. You are talking about it's one game but you are probably still only holding on to the Chargers game, which if my math is correct, is just one game.
@@jahsoul357bro as a longtime saints fan, I was shocked by the racism of the saints media and fanbase