I like how you actually played in your shoes, and gave us your honest solid review, unlike some reviewers who got the shoes early played in them for 5 secs and then gave us their scripted reviews
I would definitely change the cushion and maybe flywire as well, but I think they might have used that synthetic leather originally to make the shoe lighter in 2009 to begin with.
Dude, you're for real my favorite sneaker review channel. Not even close. I've tried others but they get on my nerves a little lol. Keep it up. Just wanted to show some love.
So, you rated the original IV as being the best Kobe model, above newer signature models, but then you're disappointed the re-release was pretty much a 1:1? Doesn't make much sense.
Are you ever going to review the pg 3? You’re the only reviewer that I really trust and the pg 3 has the most mixed and uncertain reviews but they seem perfect for me,except the fit. Hoping you will since you mentioned them in the video
So I've been play in these for a couple months and yes the traction was really nice, the cushioning set up wasn't bad. In my opinion they are good performance sneakers but just... you know, not really "Protro". It's just not making me feel comfortable for asking that much money. Well, I still say it's not a loss cuz they still one of the best from last decade. Paying for good memories lol
Damn ya voice sounds so more clearer, ion know what Yu did to get that mucus out, but keep that shit up. Yu finally sound clear. Easy to listen to again.
I get what you saying, you would want to have seen upgrades to the IV’s with all the tech that Nike has floating around and also the price they put on them. But from a basketball stand point IMO it really isn’t a disappointing performer. As of rite know these are my go-to shoes to hoop in over my kyrie 5’s. The Disappoint is calling them a protro when Nike did the bare minimum to the tech of these Kobe’s. I hope they don’t mess up the 8’s tho. Matter of fact I would be happy if they would just re-release them as is, ha.
B.Inspired.2.Inspire yeah man ths Kobe 8s are probably the most well rounded kobe shoe IMO. From traction, support, cushion and comfort its really undefeated.
175$ for a sneakers with a lot of plastic in the upper, especially Nike can update the leather quality in the fore foot area. Synthetic leather on Kobe 4 protro looks really cheap. Similarly with Nike, it seems like you are spending 1000$ on a 64gb storage mobile phone from brand A in 2019
Totally agree with you, @jahronmon! There is nothing can explain the significantly increased price for the same tech specs as an original model. P.S. Happy birthday! Wish you all the best!
Facts...I keep telling myself that I'm just glad to finally have these...basically the equivalent of a Jordan retro for me...I'm hoping they bring back the 6s soon. Favorite performance kobes of all time right there. Ps, happy bday bruh.
Zoe Sh it was bad info, the protro was never gonna have full length, we just assumed and they put it in the initial description. When we said they cancelled the lunar, we meant the original Kobe 4 has lunar foam in the forefoot and zoom in the heel. Now the protro took out lunar in the forefoot, so they removed tech.
Why don't sneaker reviewers understand the need for professionals to nee good heal impact protection? On step back and fadaway jumpers, players NEED good heal cushion for impact protection. There is nothing wrong with the Kobe 4 other than the name that suggests its different to the original. If you liked the original then why should this be so disappointing? It may be disappointing to you, but to the market and players, I don't think so. It just didn't match your expectations J.
@@JAHRONMON I'm glad you're saying they're equally important because most reviewers focus 80% on the forefoot, as if the bounce in the forefoot is going to propel them higher or faster during their plays. Don't get me wrong, I love some bounce but it often hurts court feel which is imperative to speed and change of direction for guards. Either way man, love your work bro, keep it up....oh and if you play those NBA Playmakers again, take more control. You're better than many of them ball hogs. yeah, I know ;-)
Didnt Kobe said that he wantes it to look eactly the same as 10 years ago for all the protros? Isnt that why he agree the retro idea? I feel like the only way to upgrade would be cushion and some materials in some area that would still look the same
you can’t change the upper, the upper has to look exactly the same as the og. changing up the material on the upper with a fly kit or mesh is not a protro... just a new version of that shoe. but they could’ve changed the cushion or changed the leather to real leather.
This had not the same tooling as the original. Original had forefoot lunarlon pad and heel zoom like the 2008 Hyperdunk. This had straight phylon under the forefoot. Significant difference.
Kobe No-tro's are like Kobe's last season in the league. Yikes. Nike portraying their best rendition of the Peoples Republic of North Korea on these revised 4's = take it or leave it, even if you have to suffer and be famished.
I really don't care about the lack of cushion. I'm just happy I got to get a Kobe 4. Didn't get one back in the day. The one thing that was disappointing was the lack of more colorways.
He doesnt like the shoe because its not for him its for kobe. For his information nike dont care about him unless kobe said something about it. Tell him to talk to nike to have own signiture shoes not complaining about other people shoes
Hi Jahronmon, been watching you for a couple of years ever since you were making videos alongside Nightwing2303! Still think you’re the most underrated sneaker channel! Happy Blessed Birthday my guy! 🎂
Even though there isn’t full length zoom; Nike added injected phylon instead of the infamous bottoming out lunarlon in the forefoot, and a better rubber compound for the outsole. They enhanced a great shoe, get the recently release FTB version for premium materials.
Kobe's death has nothing to do with the performance of this shoe. Nike marketed it as a Protro (Performance Retro). Yet made no significant changes basically making them the exact same shoe. Pretty disappointing considering Kobe's highs standards.
I used to like these when It released first time. This clip lets me re-think again.😭In your opinion, Should I play on Kobe 4 protro or try the Zoom Freak? Thank you if you would give me an answer😊😊
I'm the Southeast asian. So the sneakers like these are rare for me. And now I'm thinking should I get Kobe4 protro(if it were like I got once before, get Hyperdunk x low(like I always used this serie before) or try the new Zoom Freak? So thanks for getting my comments😊😊
Ronnajos Janthima it’s a disappointment cuz Nike hyped us up with the name Protro and turned out lying to us. Basketball wise, it’s still a great shoe even it’s exactly the same as 10 years ago
Use to love nikes all they're shoes are narrow. And they come apart after a couple months like adidas pro bounce better support then again im 6'5 240lb. Size 16 shoe nike dont make alot of big sz shoes always gotta get a sz. Up with any nike shoe
Don’t blame Nike. Blame the hype beasts and resellers. Nike knew the moment Kobe died (RIP) they could have used ground up styrofoam cups for the cushion because regardless, they would sell out seconds after they released. So why cut into their margins with updated tech when they will sell anyway... Kobe wouldn’t have let that fly.
Hey man, can you please make a performance video about the Adidas Probounce Madness (Core Black/Red), I know it's late but please 🙏 I hope you notice this ♥️
Damn! Dude. I just remembered your Curry 5 Intro. You nailed that long 3 in your first shot. But in this video I see you taked "many" tries to replicate that intro.😅
Stop crying, plenty of NBA players prefer this shoe. There is not anything wrong with it. Why take the risk with your awful ideas. If you can't afford it then don't buy.
@@JAHRONMON Also the notion that the KB1 Protro is a vast improvement due to the changes is false. OG KB1 have better transition and are arguably more comfortable. KB4 is already a light shoe, no need to shed weight. They last long and are much more plush and have a smoother ride compared to the shoes you tried to compare with in the PG3/DON1.
@@JAHRONMON You act like it's a world of difference. In fact, the OG KB1 is lighter. I have both. The protro uses dense/hard phylon. You wouldn't know what the OG is like, that's why you bought the wrong size for the protro. I am sure you know where to find the dissection pictures. OG KB1 has thicker zoom and bigger shank.
It’s my birthday guys! Can I get a like in this video?
happy birthday bro, keep up the great vids
JAHRONMON happy birthday bro!
Happy Birthday Man! Keep it up
Hbd!
Wheres the Kobe Ad NXt FF review tho?
I’ve gotten over the no FLZ fiasco; I’m more upset over the lack of OG colorways
really unfortunate, could've been a really special shoe
I like how you actually played in your shoes, and gave us your honest solid review, unlike some reviewers who got the shoes early played in them for 5 secs and then gave us their scripted reviews
Dope review. I appreciate the perspective. I love these but the way you put it makes sense. Especially for the hike in price
To respect a shoe. It is best to re-release a true form exact retro...Then go PRO-Tro...
Well its kobe's idea to make a protro of his signature shoes
I'd gladly pay $175 for another pair in 2023
Happy Birthday, man. Posting on your bday. Way to hustle.
P.S.
They better NOT mess up the Kobe 6's. Those were the best hoop shoes IMO.
I would definitely change the cushion and maybe flywire as well, but I think they might have used that synthetic leather originally to make the shoe lighter in 2009 to begin with.
Little did he know how much those skyrocketed on resale.
Shouldve protro'd the price point
Facts
Dude, you're for real my favorite sneaker review channel. Not even close. I've tried others but they get on my nerves a little lol. Keep it up. Just wanted to show some love.
So, you rated the original IV as being the best Kobe model, above newer signature models, but then you're disappointed the re-release was pretty much a 1:1? Doesn't make much sense.
Right
Please come back to do reviews like these again!!!! U was the source my man!
only disappointing for me was the price i could careless the rest, it works for me then it’s working for me now !!!!
Happy birthday to Jah, praying for a speedy heal on those feet
Most underrated channel on UA-cam... happy birthday
TJ facts
Are you ever going to review the pg 3? You’re the only reviewer that I really trust and the pg 3 has the most mixed and uncertain reviews but they seem perfect for me,except the fit. Hoping you will since you mentioned them in the video
they really are, they messed up my heels because of the horrible insoles with no support
So I've been play in these for a couple months and yes the traction was really nice, the cushioning set up wasn't bad. In my opinion they are good performance sneakers but just... you know, not really "Protro". It's just not making me feel comfortable for asking that much money. Well, I still say it's not a loss cuz they still one of the best from last decade. Paying for good memories lol
nike: forgets theres no full length zoom
everyone: peace was never an option
Damn ya voice sounds so more clearer, ion know what Yu did to get that mucus out, but keep that shit up. Yu finally sound clear. Easy to listen to again.
0:36 he has Kd / curry range.
I get what you saying, you would want to have seen upgrades to the IV’s with all the tech that Nike has floating around and also the price they put on them. But from a basketball stand point IMO it really isn’t a disappointing performer. As of rite know these are my go-to shoes to hoop in over my kyrie 5’s. The Disappoint is calling them a protro when Nike did the bare minimum to the tech of these Kobe’s. I hope they don’t mess up the 8’s tho. Matter of fact I would be happy if they would just re-release them as is, ha.
B.Inspired.2.Inspire yeah man ths Kobe 8s are probably the most well rounded kobe shoe IMO. From traction, support, cushion and comfort its really undefeated.
175$ for a sneakers with a lot of plastic in the upper, especially Nike can update the leather quality in the fore foot area. Synthetic leather on Kobe 4 protro looks really cheap.
Similarly with Nike, it seems like you are spending 1000$ on a 64gb storage mobile phone from brand A in 2019
Lol the accuracy. Avery Bradley just got injured today wearing these shoes
Totally agree with you, @jahronmon! There is nothing can explain the significantly increased price for the same tech specs as an original model.
P.S. Happy birthday! Wish you all the best!
Thanks brodi!
Facts...I keep telling myself that I'm just glad to finally have these...basically the equivalent of a Jordan retro for me...I'm hoping they bring back the 6s soon. Favorite performance kobes of all time right there. Ps, happy bday bruh.
they canceled the lunaron on the protro
Allen Long I don’t know why every reviewer forgets this part.
Wasn’t it full length zoom that they cancelled?
Zoe Sh it was bad info, the protro was never gonna have full length, we just assumed and they put it in the initial description. When we said they cancelled the lunar, we meant the original Kobe 4 has lunar foam in the forefoot and zoom in the heel. Now the protro took out lunar in the forefoot, so they removed tech.
@Dru812002 Oh wow that’s sad. The least they could’ve done was leave the damn Lunarlon. Wth did they even end up using ?
@Dru812002 Oh wow that’s sad. The least they could’ve done was leave the damn Lunarlon. Wth did they even end up using ?
Why don't sneaker reviewers understand the need for professionals to nee good heal impact protection? On step back and fadaway jumpers, players NEED good heal cushion for impact protection. There is nothing wrong with the Kobe 4 other than the name that suggests its different to the original. If you liked the original then why should this be so disappointing? It may be disappointing to you, but to the market and players, I don't think so. It just didn't match your expectations J.
I am part of the market and I am a player. Anything that can be said for the heel can be said for the forefoot. They're equally as important.
@@JAHRONMON I'm glad you're saying they're equally important because most reviewers focus 80% on the forefoot, as if the bounce in the forefoot is going to propel them higher or faster during their plays. Don't get me wrong, I love some bounce but it often hurts court feel which is imperative to speed and change of direction for guards. Either way man, love your work bro, keep it up....oh and if you play those NBA Playmakers again, take more control. You're better than many of them ball hogs. yeah, I know ;-)
Cant wait kobe 8 re-release
Happy bday Jah💯💯have a good one
how come, yet there are a lot of NBA players using that shoes this season.
How do they fit?
With all the retained features this should've just been called a "re-release" lol
I 'm agree with you... It's only a piece of plastic. Nothing else for 180€.
Didnt Kobe said that he wantes it to look eactly the same as 10 years ago for all the protros? Isnt that why he agree the retro idea? I feel like the only way to upgrade would be cushion and some materials in some area that would still look the same
Hi mate, how do you rate the fit? Are they true to size or run small?
Fit was TTS.
you can’t change the upper, the upper has to look exactly the same as the og. changing up the material on the upper with a fly kit or mesh is not a protro... just a new version of that shoe. but they could’ve changed the cushion or changed the leather to real leather.
This had not the same tooling as the original. Original had forefoot lunarlon pad and heel zoom like the 2008 Hyperdunk. This had straight phylon under the forefoot. Significant difference.
i love your shirts men! i love that movie one man cant jump
how come Kobe 4 protro is $180 on Nike and $175 everywhere else
Kobe No-tro's are like Kobe's last season in the league. Yikes. Nike portraying their best rendition of the Peoples Republic of North Korea on these revised 4's = take it or leave it, even if you have to suffer and be famished.
I really don't care about the lack of cushion. I'm just happy I got to get a Kobe 4. Didn't get one back in the day. The one thing that was disappointing was the lack of more colorways.
He doesnt like the shoe because its not for him its for kobe. For his information nike dont care about him unless kobe said something about it. Tell him to talk to nike to have own signiture shoes not complaining about other people shoes
Hi Jahronmon, been watching you for a couple of years ever since you were making videos alongside Nightwing2303! Still think you’re the most underrated sneaker channel! Happy Blessed Birthday my guy! 🎂
Even though there isn’t full length zoom; Nike added injected phylon instead of the infamous bottoming out lunarlon in the forefoot, and a better rubber compound for the outsole. They enhanced a great shoe, get the recently release FTB version for premium materials.
watching in 2024, it is just sad how Nike messed up the protro kobes...
Got a pair of those myself. Could not agree with you more. Cushioning on the forefoot sucks
The originals in 2009 were great, and still are the best....they didn’t need full length anything to be the number 1 shoes ever produced.
Protro 1 still the go-to
Couldn't agree more especially because of the price, I have these and because of the no forefoot zoom I have ordered the new Jordan 34's!!
I got the UNDFTD Black Mamba colorway and they feel cushy. This is my first non full length zoom bball shoe in about 2 years also
Don’t mess with the tech in the IV...it was and still is great!
True imagine so many nba player use dis shoes and dey enjoy it. .
nba player >dis person
A damn shame.
You gotta do a review of the new jordan shoe that dropped!
Nahh bro. You aint dissin these again.
Kobe's death has nothing to do with the performance of this shoe. Nike marketed it as a Protro (Performance Retro). Yet made no significant changes basically making them the exact same shoe. Pretty disappointing considering Kobe's highs standards.
@@JAHRONMON yeah they should say "re-release" instead. Sorry bro, btw you're ny go to guy interms of bball sneaker reviews.
now that is a rare kobe. kobes gone
happy birthday jah
Why do you play so good in the clips where you review kicks while you don’t play good on the NBA Playmakers channel?
Hahaha
RIP KOBE
Putting the lying issue and the price aside, would you consider the shoe itself a top performer in the market today?
No. Cushion and materials just don’t hold up.
@@JAHRONMON Thanks Jarron
Happy birthday jarron!
Playing ball against MIT scholars??? Haha
I used to like these when It released first time. This clip lets me re-think again.😭In your opinion, Should I play on Kobe 4 protro or try the Zoom Freak? Thank you if you would give me an answer😊😊
That is an interesting question. I think if those are your two choices, you'll be happy with either. I'd personally go with the Protro's. I think.....
I'm the Southeast asian. So the sneakers like these are rare for me. And now I'm thinking should I get Kobe4 protro(if it were like I got once before, get Hyperdunk x low(like I always used this serie before) or try the new Zoom Freak? So thanks for getting my comments😊😊
@@JAHRONMON But you said it's your dissapointment. It makes me think about it😅😅
Ronnajos Janthima it’s a disappointment cuz Nike hyped us up with the name Protro and turned out lying to us. Basketball wise, it’s still a great shoe even it’s exactly the same as 10 years ago
Best channel ever
I wish Nike won't bother to proto the waffle shoes
I have these from 2008 or 2009 I’m not 100% but I also got the Kobe proto 6 black del sol from 2010
Use to love nikes all they're shoes are narrow. And they come apart after a couple months like adidas pro bounce better support then again im 6'5 240lb. Size 16 shoe nike dont make alot of big sz shoes always gotta get a sz. Up with any nike shoe
Dope shirt bruh!
how mamy times you take it before you got it haha
Don’t blame Nike. Blame the hype beasts and resellers. Nike knew the moment Kobe died (RIP) they could have used ground up styrofoam cups for the cushion because regardless, they would sell out seconds after they released. So why cut into their margins with updated tech when they will sell anyway... Kobe wouldn’t have let that fly.
Select general release of Protro 4s (FTB, Wizenard, Del Sol) dropped in 2019, which would pre-date his passing and your argument.
@@ericv4380 thank you, sneakerhead.
Happy Birthday!
Hey man, can you please make a performance video about the Adidas Probounce Madness (Core Black/Red), I know it's late but please 🙏
I hope you notice this ♥️
Two things ... what brand shorts are those? And number two, that comp you’re playing looks like trash haha
Agree! Shame on you nike :(
Damn! Dude. I just remembered your Curry 5 Intro. You nailed that long 3 in your first shot. But in this video I see you taked "many" tries to replicate that intro.😅
Alex Sicam *took
Happy birthday. So I grabbed the zoom gp.
RIP
Overpriced and disappointing 😔
Wait so is it a bad shoe?
Considering price and other models on the market today, yeah. Kinda...
jahronmon what is your height
Under 1.70m
they look fine and the are good i have a pair and have no problems
Hell yeah i bought the undefeated and there awful
Yes. 🙂
Lol
I love the kobe 4!!!
Cool
trying too hard with clickbait Mr. TrueSize8.5not10
Wrong on both fronts brother.
i feel like u be hatin on every shoe that comes out
Simply not true. I love the Jordan 34's, Don Issue #1's, LeBron 16's, etc. etc.
Don't grow yo hair man, you look sick.
Stop crying, plenty of NBA players prefer this shoe. There is not anything wrong with it. Why take the risk with your awful ideas.
If you can't afford it then don't buy.
I can afford them. And I did buy them.
@@JAHRONMON Also the notion that the KB1 Protro is a vast improvement due to the changes is false. OG KB1 have better transition and are arguably more comfortable.
KB4 is already a light shoe, no need to shed weight. They last long and are much more plush and have a smoother ride compared to the shoes you tried to compare with in the PG3/DON1.
@@sirbraxton9386 You lost me with the OG KB1 > Protro KB 1. I stand by my review.
@@JAHRONMON You act like it's a world of difference. In fact, the OG KB1 is lighter. I have both. The protro uses dense/hard phylon. You wouldn't know what the OG is like, that's why you bought the wrong size for the protro. I am sure you know where to find the dissection pictures. OG KB1 has thicker zoom and bigger shank.
@@sirbraxton9386 I stand by my review.
U trippin
Kobe 4 mà phế nhất ?
ngu thế thất vọng nhất chứ kh phải phết nhất :v thay vì full zoom air thì zoom chỉ có ở gót thoi
Oof and now he's dead😳
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jahronmon its my birthday on oct 3 could you send me something
Kobe shoes is an ugly shoes too much expensive but not a performance shoes.
1st ?