My shoulders hate any chest pressing movements. Swapped pressing out for bench supported cable flys for the first time last week, shoulders felt perfect and I got the best chest pump of my life. Insane.
I had this issue for years in powerlifting always got should strains, when you bench try focusing bringing the bar down with your lats basically imagine doing a barbell row but in reverse you flair your elbows out in a arc as you lower the weight and then then flair them back in. Almost like your doing db flys but only from the elbows and your forearms just stay stationary. My bench went up dramatically and my shoulders are amazing now.
Gotta go lighter and really focus on retracting the scapula pulling the shoulders back and down only pushing the chest up on chest day and focus on the scapular plane and developing that mind muscle connection on back day..imo this should fix the shoulder issue
@@paulcervantes9502this is truth. Only when I lowered the weight and doubled the eccentric time to actually use the muscle and connect with it, did I finally start to have shoulder relief!!! So crazy but so true and now I’m back up to same weights I was pushing when I was hurting myself. Maybe a little less heavy weight bench pressing but I don’t care about lifting heavy weights at all anymore.
Have you tried doing slow eccentric presses with a arched back since I stopped doing presses for a while to and tried the slow eccentric and man they work like a charm
@@haydenelifrits8329 I agree, presses are phenomenal for chest but only when done strictly and keep the movement shorter so the delts and triceps aren't working so much. When you lock out I basically consider that a type of rest pause training which is not nearly as efficient for getting a pump either.
Switched to Eric's style of chest training using cables primarily and fly machine. Far better muscle response than all my years past. Chest has always been my weak point, but following his suggestions will fix this i can tell.
Chest was a weak point for me too. While I could lift 250 kg at the 45° leg press, I could barely bench press 65 kg. It took me years to reach 100 kg and yet my pecs weren’t that big. Then I started do dips and then flies : my pecs exploded !
Definitely both. U don't get that big an cut without gear. Still gotta put in the work tho and having great mechanics and form are 100% more beneficial too
Love Eric training style, I have definitely definitely taken a lot of his advice into the gym. I just need to know what stack you’re on now so I can look exactly like you.😂
I previously did slow controlled and paused on the fully contracted position. I've been trying your method of pausing on the stretch combined with the contraction. I really need to grow upper and inside chest hoping your tips help!
Great set of tips. The one downside of my home gym is only having a single cable, which can only do either top or bottom position. Still, not enough to get me back in the gym. 😂
@@1mropz1 I hear you .....but once you feel that stretch for one second you will love it. I like incline dumbbell press. Smith Press and decline DB flye also, but cable work has me hooked 👍🏻. Do the Decline DB flye nice n' slow and that stretch is insane!
probably less likely to cheat and recruit other auxiliary muscles (like delts) if you maintain slow control, as well as more time under tension = more growth
I mean pec Flys you do have the entire weight of the dumbell hinging on your pec and shoulder joint in the extended position. So how tf you gunna load "full stack" type weight
Maybe some one can help me... I can't do flys since a couple of month because of my shoulder Position. I just got horrible pain when its fully streched
I know this is gonna sound weird, but there are 2 unconventional exercies that will somewhat stimulate your chest: cable front raises and cable lateral raises.
@@kane6529 Well it's only at the very beggining of the movement. And well i use these leg strap thingies on my hand and i feel my side delts better and it also happens for me to feel the chest a little.
Love this, except it's not stretch mediated hypertrophy. Only a minor point of semantics. SMH takes many hours under constant tension and has only been studied in rodents and birds. This is a result of maximized tension in the lengthened position which has been studied in humans.
All his "new" methods aren't new at all. It's what the pros used in the early 2000's. It was called X-reps at the time. There's more to be added as well. If you would add in X-pause reps, the results would be even better.
there's a lot of hate in the coments lol, ok he is not a natural athlete but this style of training has been scientifically proven to be the best for hypertrofy and less taxing in the body, he is giving us the best information about fitness currently
My shoulders hate any chest pressing movements. Swapped pressing out for bench supported cable flys for the first time last week, shoulders felt perfect and I got the best chest pump of my life. Insane.
i had this too. I just did more Chest movements
I had this issue for years in powerlifting always got should strains, when you bench try focusing bringing the bar down with your lats basically imagine doing a barbell row but in reverse you flair your elbows out in a arc as you lower the weight and then then flair them back in. Almost like your doing db flys but only from the elbows and your forearms just stay stationary. My bench went up dramatically and my shoulders are amazing now.
@@kirkchurchil8216 thanks for the tip
Gotta go lighter and really focus on retracting the scapula pulling the shoulders back and down only pushing the chest up on chest day and focus on the scapular plane and developing that mind muscle connection on back day..imo this should fix the shoulder issue
@@paulcervantes9502this is truth. Only when I lowered the weight and doubled the eccentric time to actually use the muscle and connect with it, did I finally start to have shoulder relief!!! So crazy but so true and now I’m back up to same weights I was pushing when I was hurting myself. Maybe a little less heavy weight bench pressing but I don’t care about lifting heavy weights at all anymore.
I stopped doing presses years ago (except sometimes as a warm-up) and my chest has made so much progress since ! Flies and dips are the best !
Have you tried doing slow eccentric presses with a arched back since I stopped doing presses for a while to and tried the slow eccentric and man they work like a charm
@@haydenelifrits8329 I agree, presses are phenomenal for chest but only when done strictly and keep the movement shorter so the delts and triceps aren't working so much. When you lock out I basically consider that a type of rest pause training which is not nearly as efficient for getting a pump either.
Switched to Eric's style of chest training using cables primarily and fly machine. Far better muscle response than all my years past. Chest has always been my weak point, but following his suggestions will fix this i can tell.
Chest was a weak point for me too. While I could lift 250 kg at the 45° leg press, I could barely bench press 65 kg. It took me years to reach 100 kg and yet my pecs weren’t that big. Then I started do dips and then flies : my pecs exploded !
Again, your advice on technique is awesome. Thank you.
My chest grew watching this video
Excellent video and stellar advice
😂That face at 2:40
Casually doing a 280lb chest fly with a massive range of motion while talking though the technique without losing your breath is insane to watch.
He is a beast, incredible amount of weight
wow 280, he makes it look like its 28lbs. 3:55
Love these muscle group technique videos Eric.
honest question, did your chest grow these past 2 years because you upped your dosage or because of these workouts?
Upping the dosage is the biggest factor but if his chest grew up doing these, it definitely was one thing too.
Definitely both. U don't get that big an cut without gear. Still gotta put in the work tho and having great mechanics and form are 100% more beneficial too
Exactly. This guy is so juiced up he could look at a bench press and his chest would grow.
@@noloveforthehaters Who hurt you, hater?
Let’s goo Eric best vid I need it
Love Eric training style, I have definitely definitely taken a lot of his advice into the gym. I just need to know what stack you’re on now so I can look exactly like you.😂
Duck eggs and Korean ginseng.
best hypotrophy vids around !
Eric ‘the hypertrophy technician’ Janicki!
what i needed kinda new to the gym so this is gonna help me a lot
I think my inner chest thickened just by watching this man 😅😅
That’s what she said
I previously did slow controlled and paused on the fully contracted position. I've been trying your method of pausing on the stretch combined with the contraction. I really need to grow upper and inside chest hoping your tips help!
Great set of tips. The one downside of my home gym is only having a single cable, which can only do either top or bottom position. Still, not enough to get me back in the gym. 😂
I’m going to try those decline flys tomorrow.
The DB decline flye, or the cable?
Dumbbells. I was not ready for that feeling, I’ll incorporate that movement gradually.
@@1mropz1 I hear you .....but once you feel that stretch for one second you will love it. I like incline dumbbell press. Smith Press and decline DB flye also, but cable work has me hooked 👍🏻. Do the Decline DB flye nice n' slow and that stretch is insane!
@@brianmendenhall8387 I’ll have try cable work again.
Fly over press. Got it. 📝
Machine presses still mui importiente though
On a side tangent, how did you join UA-cam 17 years ago and your only 14 🤯
@@kane6529its called being a child predator 😂
Yeah we do need a confirmation that this is due to training style and not just dosages. For some reason too many pros never talk about the chemicals.
I find i’m too tall/long armed for the pec dec/machine presses in my gym. I take this and apply it to incline db press & cable flys and it works great
Can you go over how to do a deficit hs incline press?
I will NEVER stop benching with a barbell
I stopped bench press and just started TREN my chest grew!!!
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Tomorrow chest day, gonna apply these tips 🎉thnx so much
Love this. My chest finally grew from this style of training
Dude, this video came out an hour ago
@@najan443 dude he has been making videos with these concepts for longer then that
@@najan443🤣🤣
@@najan443 I don't get your point? I've been training like this for 2 years 🤣 lost your brain?
@@jameswest9956this concept is brand new 😂
I understand having the real slow eccentric. Why are you against exploding on the concentric though?
probably less likely to cheat and recruit other auxiliary muscles (like delts) if you maintain slow control, as well as more time under tension = more growth
It would be helpful for beginners if you explained which body part each machine targets.
chest
He did,....He captioned Chest!
This whole video is about chest... so obviously 100% of the exercises here target chest
Gear?
Dang. Lots of cable work ideas for tomorrow push workout
are the 40s really providing enough stimulus on DB flys when yoiu're repping the entire stack on the pec machine?
I mean pec Flys you do have the entire weight of the dumbell hinging on your pec and shoulder joint in the extended position. So how tf you gunna load "full stack" type weight
My chest didn’t start to come in until i started my cycles just like you
I’d hate to work out at an influencer gym like the zoo, but man, they have some great equipment there!!!
#1 and #3 go together mostly.
Pretty sure the change between those two pictures is from adding hgh and insulin to his gear routine
Maybe some one can help me...
I can't do flys since a couple of month because of my shoulder Position. I just got horrible pain when its fully streched
Train your rotator cuffs.
I've found that rotating my palms up slightly and leading with my pinkies keeps it out of my shoulders and focused on my pecs
I know this is gonna sound weird, but there are 2 unconventional exercies that will somewhat stimulate your chest: cable front raises and cable lateral raises.
Dawg your doing lateral raises way wrong if they target your chest, traps? Maybe but you wanna reduce that but chesticles is wild
@@kane6529 Well it's only at the very beggining of the movement. And well i use these leg strap thingies on my hand and i feel my side delts better and it also happens for me to feel the chest a little.
Whatsup guys I got my banana out fit.
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Godtier info
Great video, thanks. You're muscles are looking freaky rounded, I guess the result of this type of training.
Or the amount of steroids
it's definitely the steroids hahaaha you cannot be this thick
@@truebro77 well they are all on steroids 😂😂 but they all look different, it's either just genetics or the different way they train.
You these exercises it doesn't mean we're gonna like to
Also we like our exercise 😊
Even when he tries to make himself 'tiny' in the thumbnail..he still fkn huge 😂
Great tips
Where did your neck go?! 2:30
Color balance at the beginning of the video is really weird. Makes you look kind of sick
i think 1 of the reason is elbow pain
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Mike Isratel gonna adopt you too talkin like that
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Love this, except it's not stretch mediated hypertrophy. Only a minor point of semantics. SMH takes many hours under constant tension and has only been studied in rodents and birds. This is a result of maximized tension in the lengthened position which has been studied in humans.
SMH has been tested in humans on the calf muscle, for sure. (Not sure about other muscles.)
Is the tiny chest in the room with us, Eric? Looking obscene no matter what
hahahah that comparison pic .
I consider my chest to be relatively big now. Yet, it is smaller than Eric’s former “small” chest :-)
His head was so disproportionally big compared to his body.
Bro that watch looks so small hahahaha
Reason # 1 - Not enough Roids .
All his "new" methods aren't new at all. It's what the pros used in the early 2000's. It was called X-reps at the time. There's more to be added as well. If you would add in X-pause reps, the results would be even better.
I dint care who came up with it. It matters that the information is getting out there. Also, he never claimed to be an innovator.
@@Yeti_Boop So NOT the point. You are probably an annoying Karen no one likes.
i love how he has a huge chest in both pictures, he just changed the angle and flexed harder.
there's a lot of hate in the coments lol, ok he is not a natural athlete but this style of training has been scientifically proven to be the best for hypertrofy and less taxing in the body, he is giving us the best information about fitness currently
Reason #6 and the most important of all = Not enough gear: increase your steroid dosage and watch your chest grow
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Excellent except for the Phd mike F bombs
If you die, you die.
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eat to get big. Thats the rule
It's just so hard to take any advice seriously from people that use insanely high amounts of gear.
He just hop on gear, he used to be natural and his natural physique is still very impressive
@@Z95475 He's been on gear for a very, very long time
Not enough steroifs
fix : up your dosage of Tren and HGH
correct
#1 reason is over training, and not training effectively.
Reason 1 : You shouldn't take enougth steroids 😁😁😁
5 REAL reasons why your chest isn’t growing - you lacking in: Tren, Testo, HGH, Anavar and Deca😂
haha tiny ... bro that is bigger than 90% of your audience has or will reach
Not growing because you need juice
I’m not gonna listen to this guy with his tiny chest.
They don't grow because I don't use any drugs.. :( time to hop on.
main o0ne is steroids
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