I'll be changing my hydro oil tomorrow on my 1986 580 SE if the weather allows...A very experienced heavy eqiuipment tech at my shop said just about the same thing you explained as to exercising and fully extend the pistons including the outriggers at the right operating temps, so as to fill all the pistons and work out any air that may have got into the piston...thanks so much for the excellent video!
Thanks Grimm for "tuning in". As far as exercising before hand the oil is more fluid, warm oil flows better than cold oil. I didn't do this but it isn't a bad idea to put oil in the new filter before installing. This step isn't critical but helps purge a little more air out of your hydraulics. Exercising afterword is for the sake of working out any air before putting the implements under load. I have operated a machine with low hydraulic oil before and your system will cavitate which is hard on the equipment. Over all not a huge thing provided one doesn't make a common practice out of it. I rebuilt my hydraulic pump a while back and it is inevitable one will get air introduced into your system when ever you blow a hose, rebuild a cylinder, run low on oil, etc. it will work itself out eventually in short order.
Hi Pat, this isn't up my alley ..lol..I don't even know how to do an oil change on my own car, but knowing your skills, knowledge and experience that this is a good one for sure for all it may pertain to many gentlemen. But, I am going to watch it anyways. Not that I will ever need to do this, Iam sure I'll get some other interesting info. Thanks for your well respected time & expertise.
Well now you can tell the guys how to do it 😁. Thanks for sharing your time with us Brenda. Heidi and I appreciate it. As you know we try to appeal to all facets and audiences and often times experiences can overlap.
Haha, Pat, I love your jokes during this! You explain things in the way my Dad used to explain things. It feel like home. Thank you! 😊 (Also, Ryan was a lovely assistant. Loved the tip about pouring!)
Natasha, thanks! Heidi and I are glad you are here. The thing with The pouring is funny because I pour one gallon and one quart containers with the spout at the top 🤔😳😁
I actually found this interesting because if I should ever own equipment someday I need to learn this stuff. I may not be changing the oil or doing other maintenance but I need to know how to check the fluids, etc.
Cathleen, good point. The more we familiarize ourselves in different skill sets the more confident we become in tackling different situations that come our way. Thanks!
Mr. Rain My dad wouldn’t let us get our driver’s licenses until we could show that we could check our fluids, tire pressure, jump start a battery, and change a tire. We never learned it for the tractors though.
Your dad seems like a practical guy who cared about you. That is what dads should do...in my opinion. If need be Heidi can do basic checks on vehicles. As you can see aside from the hydraulic system there are similarities between all motorized vehicles... come to think of it one could view the break system on a car as a hydraulic system 🤔
at least I have an idea now on how to, should I need to change oil..... reminds me a lot of preserving food etc: label with date :) looks tempting, I want a backhoe for Christmas !!!!!!!
Thanks for the video. One minor correction, Case recommends you do not use a filter wrench to install the new filter. It is far too easy to dent the thin wall pf the filter.
So. 50 gal drum cut in half. Half filled with clean playsand. Add used oil. Stick in tools with metal heads. Lift tools up & down a few times and cleaned & sharpened metal heads. 5 gallon metal bucket done same equals sharpened hand tools for yard/garden. Another 5 gal metal bucket with plain clean sand near door to stick umbrellas in up to end of tip gives place for moisture to drain. Keep near door. Yep Ryan has those younger ambitious muscles that haven't yet learned the longevity caution. Lol.
Mr. Rain sorry wasn't clear. The sand will help keep blades sharper. In laws did this as did so many older family members. The oil helps keep it from rusting. The sand helps keep blades from GETTING dull.
Ok, I can see that. I have sprayed silicone oil, coated with 90w, or spread a light coat of grease on cutting knives for planer and joiner knives before.
TrollForge I didn’t. I don’t believe it is necessary but also don’t think it is a bad idea to do it. It makes sense due to the fact you are introducing air into the system, however the same issue with air introduction happens when replacing hoses, rebuilding cylinders or whenever opening up the hydraulic system. As you know the air will work its way out. Good idea, thanks!
@@MrRainCountry having replaced 3 hoses on my neighbors case 640E? ( it has like a 30 gallon diesel tank as a step up into the cab on one side and approximately the same size hydraulic oil tank under the door on the other side.) We bled off the air as best we could, but not tightening in the fitting on the far end of the line from the pump until it started to spray.
Gotchya. That makes sense and is a good idea. I have just relaxed the hydraulic system or neutralize the stored energy in the cylinders and replaced hoses and kept going. I haven't had any problems. Have you heard or know of issues by not bleeding the system? I have some hydraulic cylinders to rebuild and other hoses I would like to eventually replace.
@@MrRainCountry sorry Pat I only have 5 years of sporadic experience working on case backhoes, (my neighbors.) And minimal experience working on farm tractor and snow plow hydraulics, but 50 years experience working on Automotive brakes and I've always just done the to the same way, because it made sense to me...
You bet. It's good to hear your opinion Tim because I know...you're in the know...If ya know what I mean :D Bleeding breaks of air is a must for sure because the air won't work its way out. I don't see anything wrong with your hydraulic system methodology.
Each year, model, machine type, environmental considerations all play a part of what type oil and frequency of changes one needs to observe. I would look at the service manual. If you don't have a service manual do a search for a dealer and they should be able to tell you. You can also do a search and find technical data on your machine.
Hello Pat and Ryan, Great video and very instructive. Good tip on flexing the hydraulics to work it in. Question #1: What do you do with the waste fluids ? recycle ? or ? There is no Question #2, but I do have a comment. Here in Western PA, the professional term is "gahlunk gahlunk gahlunk" (yes , said 3 times in a row, because that 's what gahlunks do) and get that extra full flavor sound effect using the back of your throat for the vowels. Have a blessed day. By the way, I looked alllll over for the "subscribe" option....finally found it in small type on the right side of the screen.....just a suggestion: Put it in larger font, and a color that stands out....better yet, put a big "galunk" or '"glugging" next to the subscribe word.
Yes, he recycles the oil for treating posts. As far as the subscribe, if you are talking about the button below the video, that is not me who makes that, it is youtube. Even if you are talking about the watermark overlay in the bottom right of the video itself, while I can select my own image for that, the settings for it are still youtube's I cannot change those.
Thanks for your video! How’s your backhoe hydraulic seals/system doing since using Aw46? I’m thinking of using aw46 for my 590sm but I keep getting told it’s not recommended.
Although I don't have the K series backhoe, the reservoir could possibly be located directly by the front of your windshield just outside on the hood. My dipstick and reservoir fill is on the right hand side of the machine outside on the hood. I did some checking and it looks like you will need 21.5 gallons from what I can see. Hope this helps.
I have a 580 Super K, and the hydraulic reservoir is up next to the fuel fill, under the mini-hood. the dipstick is in the rear of the passenger compartment on the floor, and there also seems to be a sight-gauge on the frame.
Thanks for the video. I am rebuilding hydraulics on a 580e. Curious how that AW46 oil worked out for you? Did it cause any issue? The Case oil is about $100/ 5 gal. Would be nice to find a cheaper solution
I'll be changing my hydro oil tomorrow on my 1986 580 SE if the weather allows...A very experienced heavy eqiuipment tech at my shop said just about the same thing you explained as to exercising and fully extend the pistons including the outriggers at the right operating temps, so as to fill all the pistons and work out any air that may have got into the piston...thanks so much for the excellent video!
Thanks Grimm for "tuning in". As far as exercising before hand the oil is more fluid, warm oil flows better than cold oil. I didn't do this but it isn't a bad idea to put oil in the new filter before installing. This step isn't critical but helps purge a little more air out of your hydraulics. Exercising afterword is for the sake of working out any air before putting the implements under load. I have operated a machine with low hydraulic oil before and your system will cavitate which is hard on the equipment. Over all not a huge thing provided one doesn't make a common practice out of it. I rebuilt my hydraulic pump a while back and it is inevitable one will get air introduced into your system when ever you blow a hose, rebuild a cylinder, run low on oil, etc. it will work itself out eventually in short order.
Hi Pat, this isn't up my alley ..lol..I don't even know how to do an oil change on my own car, but knowing your skills, knowledge and experience that this is a good one for sure for all it may pertain to many gentlemen. But, I am going to watch it anyways. Not that I will ever need to do this, Iam sure I'll get some other interesting info. Thanks for your well respected time & expertise.
That is so sweet of you Brenda! Thank you for taking the time to help us this way :D
Well now you can tell the guys how to do it 😁. Thanks for sharing your time with us Brenda. Heidi and I appreciate it. As you know we try to appeal to all facets and audiences and often times experiences can overlap.
Haha, Pat, I love your jokes during this! You explain things in the way my Dad used to explain things. It feel like home. Thank you! 😊 (Also, Ryan was a lovely assistant. Loved the tip about pouring!)
Natasha, thanks! Heidi and I are glad you are here. The thing with The pouring is funny because I pour one gallon and one quart containers with the spout at the top 🤔😳😁
I got a bit of a chuckle out of that about the lovely assistant too. I am laughing with you not against.
I actually found this interesting because if I should ever own equipment someday I need to learn this stuff. I may not be changing the oil or doing other maintenance but I need to know how to check the fluids, etc.
Cathleen, good point. The more we familiarize ourselves in different skill sets the more confident we become in tackling different situations that come our way. Thanks!
Mr. Rain My dad wouldn’t let us get our driver’s licenses until we
could show that we could check our fluids, tire pressure, jump start a battery, and change a tire. We never learned it for the tractors though.
Your dad seems like a practical guy who cared about you. That is what dads should do...in my opinion. If need be Heidi can do basic checks on vehicles. As you can see aside from the hydraulic system there are similarities between all motorized vehicles... come to think of it one could view the break system on a car as a hydraulic system 🤔
Hi Pat.. Not my cup of tea either, but might be hubby's LOL My son finds his invaluable to have.. thanks for the video.. :)
Green Rage you’re welcome, and thanks for stopping in.
at least I have an idea now on how to, should I need to change oil..... reminds me a lot of preserving food etc: label with date :) looks tempting, I want a backhoe for Christmas !!!!!!!
We had a 580C when we built our house. It is probably similar to the 580E in a few ways.
AMEN God is always good ,.Im a street preacher and land on this video Amen
May God bless your work!!
@@MrRainCountry Glory to the Lord
Thanks for the video. One minor correction, Case recommends you do not use a filter wrench to install the new filter. It is far too easy to dent the thin wall pf the filter.
** It is recommended that you use oils and lubricants associated with manufactures recommendations. **
Does the trans axle share the same hydralic reservoir ? I'm working on a 580 super E. Thanks
how much was the hydraulic filter and what brand Hydraulic oil did you go back with
Nice vid. I've got a 580b and can't find much info on all the different filters and fluids and what to change when and where the hell they are.
Hey just a quick question, what is the dip stick that right under the filter you changed. Thanks
So. 50 gal drum cut in half. Half filled with clean playsand. Add used oil. Stick in tools with metal heads. Lift tools up & down a few times and cleaned & sharpened metal heads. 5 gallon metal bucket done same equals sharpened hand tools for yard/garden. Another 5 gal metal bucket with plain clean sand near door to stick umbrellas in up to end of tip gives place for moisture to drain. Keep near door. Yep Ryan has those younger ambitious muscles that haven't yet learned the longevity caution. Lol.
Edie, not sure of the sharing part but the rest is a great idea for both cleaning and corrosion protection. Thanks for sharing!
Mr. Rain sorry wasn't clear. The sand will help keep blades sharper. In laws did this as did so many older family members. The oil helps keep it from rusting. The sand helps keep blades from GETTING dull.
Ok, I can see that. I have sprayed silicone oil, coated with 90w, or spread a light coat of grease on cutting knives for planer and joiner knives before.
@@edieboudreau9637 must remember and try! though not a 50 gal drum, there just is not room for that size !
kleineroteHex yep. So I used a metal bucket. Works good.
Glugging is DEFINITELY a technical term
Edie Boudreau uh, yeah! I thought so 🤔😀
Pat, you didn't mention, or show, do you fill the new filter before installing it?
TrollForge I didn’t. I don’t believe it is necessary but also don’t think it is a bad idea to do it. It makes sense due to the fact you are introducing air into the system, however the same issue with air introduction happens when replacing hoses, rebuilding cylinders or whenever opening up the hydraulic system. As you know the air will work its way out. Good idea, thanks!
@@MrRainCountry having replaced 3 hoses on my neighbors case 640E? ( it has like a 30 gallon diesel tank as a step up into the cab on one side and approximately the same size hydraulic oil tank under the door on the other side.) We bled off the air as best we could, but not tightening in the fitting on the far end of the line from the pump until it started to spray.
Gotchya. That makes sense and is a good idea. I have just relaxed the hydraulic system or neutralize the stored energy in the cylinders and replaced hoses and kept going. I haven't had any problems. Have you heard or know of issues by not bleeding the system? I have some hydraulic cylinders to rebuild and other hoses I would like to eventually replace.
@@MrRainCountry sorry Pat I only have 5 years of sporadic experience working on case backhoes, (my neighbors.) And minimal experience working on farm tractor and snow plow hydraulics, but 50 years experience working on Automotive brakes and I've always just done the to the same way, because it made sense to me...
You bet. It's good to hear your opinion Tim because I know...you're in the know...If ya know what I mean :D Bleeding breaks of air is a must for sure because the air won't work its way out. I don't see anything wrong with your hydraulic system methodology.
After how many working hours hydraulic oil need to change? Need help
Each year, model, machine type, environmental considerations all play a part of what type oil and frequency of changes one needs to observe. I would look at the service manual. If you don't have a service manual do a search for a dealer and they should be able to tell you. You can also do a search and find technical data on your machine.
@@RainCountryHomestead thanks a lot m from Manipur and i never expected a reply from you itself but i do believe some other commentators
Thank you
hello, may I ask what kind of hydraulic oil can get to use? thanks
Hello Pat and Ryan, Great video and very instructive. Good tip on flexing the hydraulics to work it in. Question #1: What do you do with the waste fluids ? recycle ? or ? There is no Question #2, but I do have a comment. Here in Western PA, the professional term is "gahlunk gahlunk gahlunk" (yes , said 3 times in a row, because that 's what gahlunks do) and get that extra full flavor sound effect using the back of your throat for the vowels. Have a blessed day. By the way, I looked alllll over for the "subscribe" option....finally found it in small type on the right side of the screen.....just a suggestion: Put it in larger font, and a color that stands out....better yet, put a big "galunk" or '"glugging" next to the subscribe word.
Yes, he recycles the oil for treating posts. As far as the subscribe, if you are talking about the button below the video, that is not me who makes that, it is youtube. Even if you are talking about the watermark overlay in the bottom right of the video itself, while I can select my own image for that, the settings for it are still youtube's I cannot change those.
Thanks for your video! How’s your backhoe hydraulic seals/system doing since using Aw46? I’m thinking of using aw46 for my 590sm but I keep getting told it’s not recommended.
Patrick said it has been fine.
Do u know where to insert the hydrolic fluid on a 580k back hoe? Need to know ASAP thanks
Patrick is not here at the moment but I will try to remember to have him get back to you on this as soon as he gets home and hope we are not too late.
Rain Country ok thank u
Although I don't have the K series backhoe, the reservoir could possibly be located directly by the front of your windshield just outside on the hood. My dipstick and reservoir fill is on the right hand side of the machine outside on the hood. I did some checking and it looks like you will need 21.5 gallons from what I can see. Hope this helps.
I have a 580 Super K, and the hydraulic reservoir is up next to the fuel fill, under the mini-hood. the dipstick is in the rear of the passenger compartment on the floor, and there also seems to be a sight-gauge on the frame.
Oil on feet? Isn't that why you keep worn out towels with oil change equipment?
Edie Boudreau it is indeed! Young guys are invincible and made of rubber so they don’t break when they fall 😁
Thanks for the video. I am rebuilding hydraulics on a 580e. Curious how that AW46 oil worked out for you? Did it cause any issue? The Case oil is about $100/ 5 gal. Would be nice to find a cheaper solution
He has had no issues with it in his machine.
Tractor Supply has a fluid that will work just fine for half the price of case.
Yep too bad Jed Clampett didn't know about sawdust slurping up oil or he might not've become a millionaire!!! Lol.
Edie Boudreau 😂
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To much talking
Too much rudeness
O wait, maybe that was a toast since you used the word "to" instead of the word "too"?