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@@morganjones7741 thats your non factual opinion. the league tables show otherwise-they have only been establsihed since the start of the season. they had no club for 3 seasons
Forgetting Salford City the most surprising stat mentioned here was Stockport County averaging 9000 a week. You've got to be impressed that a club thats average attendance was around 7000 in the 2nd tier a little over 20 years is averaging 9000 in the fourth tier now. Don't know how they've done it but huge respect, they certainly do know how to run a club.
Stockport have done more than salford ever have. ( I'm a salford fan ). Stockport fans are dedicated to the club due to the more success they have had than salford
Big place Stockport tbf though. Well over 250k people in the whole borough, not much smaller than Bolton really. Still impressive but there’s a lot of people in the town in general 👍🏼
Yes I agree MK Dons will always be the most hated club. Unfortunately for them their founding was wrong. Nothing wrong with Salfords or the class of 92's actions in my eyes.
@@dylantaylor9495 most football clubs in Europe which have shot up the leagues in recent times have done so through massive investment by their owners, few clubs can pull a Luton
@@dylantaylor9495 What about Sutton, Barrow, Harrogate, Forest Green, Morecambe and others? Have any of them become league clubs without being bankrolled and just through hard work? Is the Salford hate really just hating the Neville Brothers, Giggs and Beckham?
I really don't understand the hate for MK Dons. They have a cool stadium and they're doing OK in the football pyramid without threatening to be world beaters. Harmless enough.
As one of the 140 who used to turn up before the money was put in I’ve got nothing to lose. If it all goes to pot there will still be a Salford City in one form or another… and I’ll probably be able to take my dog. Credit to the owners for doing so much off the pitch with their efforts in the Salford community. This is Salford. Not the most affluent place the UK and we have our problems. But seeing a younger generation of fans getting together and supporting their local team is great to see. As for the ground, it’s blocked in by a school and houses on three sides and a protected moor on the other. Lack of parking and room to grow means that if the club is anymore successful it is likely that relocation will be necessary. So I’ll continue to buy a season ticket (£100 renewal for over 60’s 23/24 season). Even if the Class of ‘92 pull out I’ll thank them for the ride. It’s been great so far.
Same here in Germany: The day I became a member of my football club, got tattoos of it, was the day, when 1860 Munich was relegated from second Bundesliga to lower league in 2017. Our loyalty and love to the Munich Lions broke into space and we went with 15.000 lads to some away days in this season.
For me changing the teams colours from orange to red does indicate that it's a vanity project for the class of 92 but what they spend their money on is their business and it does show their love of the game lives on.
It's ironic too how Gary Neville cried on Sky Sports about owners not respecting the history of clubs by wanting to change the names and colours of teams...
Most hated is a big stretch. MK Dons aka Franchise FC are easily the most hated. Salford earned their place by winning games. Some people may dislike the financial aspect of the club, but I have never heard anyone say they dislike Salford.
Really a shame how mk came to exist they could have done the same as Salford as I believe there already was a club in existence in about the 8th tier at the time got a lot of conflicted views on it with it being my local
In 2014 I saw Salford lose to Harrogate Railway in the Northern Premier Division One. Now I watch them lose to Harrogate Town in league Two. The more things change the more they stay the same.
Tbf, Harrogate are actually a decent side and have exceeded expectations in League 2 this season with their style of play. Which is more than can be said about Salford... 👀
@@GOTHICforLIFE1 I was just going to say there's no point offering her a job if they insist on her acting and behaving the same way as their other presenters, commentators, pitch side reporters etc etc.
62 away supporters for Salford at my club last year, less than two hours away, on a Saturday afternoon. There simply isn’t the support base for Salford and never will be, so the bubble will burst one day.
I continue to watch these excellent little documentaries with excellent storytelling, despite never really been a huge football fan. You are a bloody amazing content creator, tv execs should really take note, quality like this is why I don't often switch to live tv. 👍🏻❤️
I live in Australia and don't even support football over here - for some reason I can't get enough of this channel. Its brilliant. Great little bites of life that I love seeing, even if it has very little to do with me.
Us poms are very passionate about our football teams, like it's another religion and we bleed our teams colours when we win or lose. If we imergrate we still follow and support our team it's in our DNA. I now call Perth Western Australia home but still stay up Saturday night/ early Sunday morning following the Gills. ❤
I think the problem is that the Salford owners are willing and able to sustain big losses to fulfill their ambitions. This creates the situation that the other clubs need to spend big to compete, which then necessitates the need for an independent regulator
I never understood why the Nevilles didn't get involved at Bury. And I think it's a shame they didn't. It's their hometown club and their family had strong links there. Surely they could've pointed Lim, Beckham et al that way. With the money the CO92 have spent on Salford Bury could've been saved and likely be having a decent run in the 2nd tier. Instead they rebranded some tiny non league club that has likely hit it's ceiling already in league 2 with 1000 home fans and a tiny un expandable ground. And a proper club up the road now plays in the NWCFL. A league Salford would be more at home in. I say this as a Dale fan too and I'm not exactly supposed supposed like Bury!
Also Danny Boyle could have afforded to put his hand in his pocket, big film director and Bury fan, Gemma Atkinson apparently loves Bury FC, Guy Garvey, Kieran Trippier, Scott Quigg - maybe they could have put together a consortium? Anyway, they didn't and the fans had to save the club.
One of the worst away days I’ve ever had, treated us really poorly. On the flip side, the best ever away day was up the road at FC United who couldn’t do enough for us and were the nicest people.
I’m a Solihull Moors supporter but I’ve also been a fan of Manchester United for over 50 years so have no gripe with the class of 92. On the day of the game it was cold and wet, the announcer kept telling us what wonderful food was available in the home end when all we had was a miserable little kiosk selling soggy burgers. If we asked anyone from Salford for advice or help all we got was a grunt and a wave of the hand. We were just made to feel totally unwelcome and it’s a ground I’d definitely think twice about visiting again. Oh…… and we (deservedly) lost the game.
Don't have an issue with Salford CIty. It's been 10 years and the class of 92 are still there. Most people with a vanity project would've got bored by now and would likely have given up. Leaving at best a club with no debts, or if they really stopped caring, would leave the club in financial ruin. I hope Salford get some more local support. It sounds like they deserve to.
I don't think we can talk about others giving up by now just yet, only because Salford have enjoyed nothing but success so far, and as long as they do so I don't see anyone giving up on them, regardless of how long they are there for. We have to wait until an extended period of stagnation (which could be argued we are getting into now) or a setback like their first relegation. Only then will we see how much staying power these guys have.
there are so many football clubs in england that I always thought that if you went into some bushes while walking you'd find a stadium on the other side like in this case lmao
I've watched my own team play in blue since the 1960s and if new owners came in and put in £10m and made them play in red, that would be it for me, I wouldn't go again.
Great video. My own team Leyton Orient were in the National League at the same time as Salford City (2018-19 season), we got promoted to League Two at the same time, Leyton Orient from being champions and Salford through the play-offs. I didn't like them when they beat us 3-0 at Brisbane Road and almost derailed our return to the League, but aside from that I don't mind them, if they had been a West Ham ex-player vanity project then that would have been a different matter...
I personally have nothing at all against Salford City, it's owners, Club or fans, At the end of the day the Class of 92, saw an opportunity to invest in a Local Football Club and back it as a Business. So long as they abide by the same rules as the Rest of the League then.......Carry On. The Club Stays viable. The fans Can Support Their Club, Everyone's Happy!! Great Video Nieve, Keep Up The Great Work😄
Wrexham is the biggest city in north wales. It has an independent fan base to draw from whereas everyone that lives in Salford will just support one of the big Manchester clubs.
6:59 I've been a Chelsea fan since the early 90s and can't compete with that. In fact, one of the most traumatic days I ever had as a football fan was coming back from the last game of the season, sitting on the tube, having sent the opposing team down, and your club may have been one of those. The sound of football fans being respectfully silent to opposing fans, some of them grown men in tears, is something I'll never forget.
It's such a shame. The class of 92 didn't invest in any of the MANY struggling greater Manchester teams. The state of Oldham, Rochdale and Bury this past decade shows that.
Nevilles dad i think chairman of Bury at one point, so why didnt they buy an existing club like Bury ,instead just playing fantasty football with a made up club.
I guess that Salford are trying to do in 15 years what most other clubs around them have been trying (and, most often failing) to do for maybe 100 years. To go from the 8th tier with 140 fans to the pro game with 2,500 fans in a decade is still pretty impressive. I guess that fans of other clubs are miffed that they are somehow 'buying success', when the reality is that the owners are putting the building blocks in place for success to be achieved (new stadium, academy, women's team etc.). Fundamentally, those longer established - 'bigger' clubs just don't like a 'disruptor brand' shaking up the established football landscape. As always a great bit of storytelling nicely executed.
Lived just a 20 minute walk from the ground last year safe to say the ground is well hidden in the city! Great work again will be at the peninsula again soon to see how things shape
I live even closer and it's incredible isn't it? It's not even that the ground is hidden but there's no signs, no sort of major transport links to them, no pubs or anything?
Official attendance was 8,049, half of what Boreham Wood and Tranmere got the previous year. Solihull v Grimsby in 2022 got almost 23,000, while Notts v Chesterfield was over 38,000. Torquay v Hartlepool didn't manage 7,000, but that was at Ashton Gate, which is a long way (ie 280 miles) from Hartlepool.
The most significant development seems to be the establishment of a youth academy, whose success will not be down to the owners of the club but the ability of the academy managements and coaches. If this academy does develop top players, which Salford can sell, then they may establish a sound financial position as well as attract young fans.
My great granny moved to Paterson, NJ from Salford in the late 19th century , but it was instilled into my DNA . Although I became a Manchester United fan in 1958 , I hope them success !!!
@@marknewbold2583 The Munich air disaster occurred on 6 February 1958 when British European Airways Flight 609 crashed on its third attempt to take off at Munich-Riem Airport .. it was in all the Paterson and NYC newspapers and it impacted me in a way I can still remember.
A lot of people like to say people like Gary Neville don’t care about the lower leagues/ non-league. Now he’s going and putting his money where his mouth is and getting criticism.
I guess in the long run more power to them. In North America I see mega dollars buy an expansion franchise in all sports. When it fails they move it or sell it or both, no relegation no promotion, mega bucks does not permit that. These guys brought this club from next to nowhere to a significant somewhere (league 2). They did it with their own significant capital, but probably nowhere near the mega bucks of N.American sports.
"Most hated club in England"? No chance - There's at least six English Clubs more hated than Salford City.... 1. Milton Keynes Dons 2. Manchester United 3. Liverpool 4. Chelsea 5. Arsenal 6. Forest Green Rovers I might even put Leeds and Millwall ahead of Salford.
I think its great what they have done for the club. I visited salford city before the class of 92 as an away fan supporting Leigh genesis , its hard to believe thats the same ground i went to back in 2009, looks like a nice little ground now. Wish somebody would have bought Leigh Genesis, they unfortunately folded but have reformed as a sunday league team
My wife is a Darlo fan and she tells me there were multiple incidents of player hoarding by Salford on the way up. To be specific this was when they were not yet a professional club and they would take many of the best players from the Semi-Pro / Amateur football clubs they were competing with, offer them lucrative looking wages, uproot them from their local club tempting them to quit their jobs and move their families. Because they had so many players inevitably many would fall down the pecking order and would be let go. Because they weren't yet a professional club this obviously means they recruit players without giving them any sort of job security and it's easier for the club to pull the plug. I couldn't find any proof of this via google so maybe this is a case of the plural of anecdote not being data.
Salford will struggle to move much further up the pyramid simply because the interest in the club just isn’t there within their catchment area. They have lost a lot of support over the years to the bigger clubs around them so will take them a number of years to build that fan base almost from scratch. Like a few other league 2 teams, if they get relegated out of the EFL then I really don’t see them returning
Got to go to us (MK Dons) next then? Looking at these comments people don’t really seem to mind Salford, you want a club literally no one likes it’s definitely us and not even close
I applaud that they set up and academy and a women's team, which are both important for the community. I've seen someone say how is Salford different to Wrexham? One energised the existing fanbase, and one brought in new fans. Are the new fans only there because of the owners? Only time will tell, but Salford has always been a Rugby League town. What we can say, however, is that Salford are less loathed than MK Dons.
As someone who's a fan of a team at that level, Wrexham were sleeping giants (relatively) who really only needed a bit of investment and to be well run, Salford are basically a team created from scratch as a play thing
I spent the first half of the video wondering when you were going to take a bite of that lamington you were holding. Um...as you were. That line about the pisstake is a classic, and pretty apt for some of these astrotured ventures where a consortium's money struggles to establish the same organic weight of clubs whose identity is forged over generations of ground-up building.
As a Harrogate Town season ticket holder, I have never liked Salford, as we could never beat them. That changed this season, have them on last day of season, so will possibly go to Salford, never been before. Great content,always enjoy your videos.
Am a Newcastle United supporter and always keep an eye on Gateshead F.C. results I would love to see the reach League one or even the Championship but know that will take some time before that happens
Gateshead got 600 home fans in the league last night! There is not the support for any sort of club, yet they seem to not be critiqued for this like other clubs do.
The issue with Salford compared with wrexham is that Ryan and rob have an image a positive image of genuinely engaged with the community, involving themselves in local charities and have a perception of genuinely trying to help a historical club that had been mismanaged with their own money. Salford has no history of past glory and the class of 92 are using the club to relive past glory’s of their past using a foreign businessman billionaire as a backer because they are not prepared to put their money where it counts. They’ve run roughshod over the fans changing the kit and club logo and when they get board will leave the club in a financial mess. Why do you think green and gold is the real grass roots club of Manchester 😊
I agree she ought to have a wider audience, but the networks would try to throttle out the essence of what makes these vids shine. She'd be the 3-minute ' local colour ' feature, pre-packaged, vapid and lacking those wonderful snarky side comments. These 8 to 10-minute pieces are fascinating. (And besides, most of Nieve's vids are non-PL content; the networks would insist she stay on brand.)
Wrexham has a history, I’m sure they’ll leave the club in a better condition should they leave. The class of ‘92 are mainly from Salford, they’re doing something at least for their roots.
Only Giggs is from Salford from the class of 92. Never understood why they didn't buy Bury instead. Nevilles grew up watching them and they desperately needed some investment around the same time they bought Salford
Also Salford/Manchester you’re talking a difference of half a mile. It’s all the same. Anyone that says Trafford isn’t historically Manchester in terms of economic, cultural and society is taking out out their arse.
Did not know I needed someone who looks like they're from Napoli whilst sounding like Victoria Wood telling me about football, but the algorithm knows all. Hope you get to do some TV work. Or just more of this, this is cool. You obviously know your stuff, and it's not actually the law that you need to be a guy with some degree of hair loss to make football content.
I’ve recently started going to watch my local tier 9 side and if I had the sort of money to turn them into a League Two club for a bit of fun, I absolutely would. The only difference between Salford and other clubs that have travelled that same road, like Fleetwood Town for example, is the celebrity element.
always thought it was interesting the different reception the class of 92 got compared to Wrexham who have essentially tried a similar thing as them yet are the media's dream but overspent massively to get out of the conference
Wrexham are one of the oldest clubs in the world and were very well liked already while Salford are a meme invented by men who were loathed by most everyone who doesn't support Manchester
Wrexham actually had an existing fan base and history though. That's why Rob and Ryan chose them, they knew there was a sleeping giant there. Very different to Salford who are trying to manufacture it all.
@@gilesjones3626 a lot of people miss this If Rob and Ryan pull out of Wrexham tomorrow and they have to become self-sustainable they'll probably be at the bottom end of L2/top end of NL for the next 10 years. Salford? They'd be back in regional football before 2030
Football doesn’t need a new independent regulator, it just needs the existing regulators, for that is what they are, to be less supine and less in thrall to money. It has always been the case that money can be brought into clubs and buy success. Broadly fans like it when it happens to their clubs but are less keen when it happens to others, especially when they are bitter and hated rivals. Salford lacks the history of other clubs. But so what? I rather admire these filthy rich ex footballers for wanting to put something back. And I’m a Liverpool fan so that sticks in my throat I can tell you.
Wow! I happened to come across this. Very cool. I’m from Fort Lauderdale. Just wait until you see what happens with this team. I watched Miami Inter grow from nothing into what it is now. 👍👍👍Keep up the amazing job! Thanks
I hope they have great success, but some clubs have a natural ceiling that can be incredibly tough to break through. They have been brash and impatient at times, but it can't be denied that they've made every decision with the intention of making Salford City better
I remember Salford coming to Marine before they kicked on into the EFL. We had a crowd of 1700 that day and I think Salford had bought a player from the SPL.
Is this women ever gonna do a video I can tear apart and smash all my windows, out of pure anger and rage? NO, I dont think she is up for anything less than 1st Class and top researched content on her channel..., so i'll just have to continue giving her all the thumbs up I can find, and save my rage for others that, only "think" they know what they're dribbling out, all over my screen! Thank you Neve for all your excellent and detailed work, that you are constantly putting out to educate the football masses.... more of this... please!!
A'reyt Nieve. I grew up in Manningham, where the Rugby League champions changed to Bradford City. Contrast that to me having lived in Salford. I did go and watch the RL team, but never expected the football team to be in the same division as Bradford City. Their rise in football is not too different though. Bradford won the FA Cup in 1911 just 15 years after being RL champions, when there were wool magnates with plenty of money in that city.
Bradford had a bit of a tiff with Northern Union and Association Football in the early 20th Century, especially when you consider Bradford (Park Avenue) and Bradford FC in 1907
Went to Salford stadium on a Newport away as couldn’t get tickets to city game. Even though stadium wasn’t filled, the atmosphere was definitely something you wouldn’t see at a prem game nowadays.
My club is similar AFC Fylde. The chair David Haythornthwaite about 15 years ago took over a NW counties side and said that they would be in the football league by 2022. Many laughed but he put his money there, built a nice new 6000 capacity stadium and very nearly did it missing out in the play off final in 2019. Problem is similar though we average only 2000 fans and a bus load to away games and are universally disliked by the more traditional teams. Being so close to Preston and Blackpool doesn’t help either. Things take time to bake. Hopefully in 10 years time things will have normalised more.
I'm a Tranmere Rovers fan and have no problem with Salford or the path they've taken to join us in the 4th tier. I empathise with the struggle to attract fans when you're in the shadow of big Premier League fish and hope they can pull disillusioned Utd fans to find how much more fun it is, when you feel like you make a difference as a fan by being one of 5000 versus one of 50,000.
Another Tranmere fan here, didn't particularly enjoy my one visit to Peninsular Stadium, It's in the middle of a staunchly residential zone, with little if any amenities in the immediate surrounding areas. The nearest pubs are just about a mile away, and very little public transport links close to the ground (fortunately I drive). But for me, my major problem is their rapid rise up the Leagues - 4 promotions in 5 seasons. That's a bit too much to try and grow a sound fanbase. They've done well to grow from 140 to 1400+. A promotion once every 2-3 seasons might give the club a better chance. They could have then entered the EFL with an established core of around 3000 fans instead of the current 1500-2000.
I can see how smaller clubs with potential to improve that are near larger metro areas could have an advantage over smaller clubs that are more rural. However, having some body to regulate these type of things could be more trouble than it’s worth.
I think the problem is AFC Wimbledon, who gained promotion all the way up to league 1, on pure fan power, compared to Salford which was more money driven! Its hard NOT to roote for Wimbledon & theyre fans compared to clubs like Salford & Crawley!
Fond memories of playing and refereeing at Salford in the North West Counties League days, can't help feeling the character of the club has been lost with the recent success.
Great video really enjoyed it I live on the same road as the stadium love it &you have a new subscriber looking forward to watching more of your stuff 👏👏
I've only been there once for a pre season friendly in 2000. The BBC adored them as they won promotions like they adored FCUM. Anything that reflects off MU they adore. They've done very well to increase their fan base from nothing to a couple of thousand. If you asked me to name clubs around here though I'd forget them every time. Salford = rugby league to me.
In a world where Not-Wimbledon exist there will be no club hated more than them. Salford are pretty much a non-story to most fans across the country. Perhaps they may not be liked by people from around the area rather than across the UK
I do love your videos (even if you are a Bolton supporter!!) but I'm surprised there was no comparison here with Wrexham. Both in League 2 and have the '92 lads done anything different to Ryan and Rob? It's really just envy I think. And maybe next season the mighty Rovers can once again battle and destroy the Wanderers! (Not sure which league it will be in though! :P)
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and why mention Bury when Radcliffe are 2 divisions above them..
@@LdevArtbecause bury are A very well know. Established club
@@morganjones7741 thats your non factual opinion. the league tables show otherwise-they have only been establsihed since the start of the season. they had no club for 3 seasons
I was talking about buying Bury a few years ago when they actually bought Salford, Bury were still in the football league then x
@@TheLiverpolitan nice story bro...
Forgetting Salford City the most surprising stat mentioned here was Stockport County averaging 9000 a week. You've got to be impressed that a club thats average attendance was around 7000 in the 2nd tier a little over 20 years is averaging 9000 in the fourth tier now. Don't know how they've done it but huge respect, they certainly do know how to run a club.
Stockport have done more than salford ever have. ( I'm a salford fan ). Stockport fans are dedicated to the club due to the more success they have had than salford
plus they were in the sixth tier a few years ago. York City, Notts County and Stockport are massive for non-league
Yeah but in salford we have a massive club called Manchester united which is not even half an mile from Salford.
When i lived not far from stockport back in the early 80's friday night i'd go to country matchs with a few mates, never more then 2.5 to 3000 fans
Big place Stockport tbf though. Well over 250k people in the whole borough, not much smaller than Bolton really. Still impressive but there’s a lot of people in the town in general 👍🏼
Not hated as much as MK Dons. Salford earned their league position through playing football.
Yes I agree MK Dons will always be the most hated club. Unfortunately for them their founding was wrong. Nothing wrong with Salfords or the class of 92's actions in my eyes.
Earned it via being bankrolled by the class of 92. its not earned via hardwork.
@@dylantaylor9495 most football clubs in Europe which have shot up the leagues in recent times have done so through massive investment by their owners, few clubs can pull a Luton
@@dylantaylor9495 What about Sutton, Barrow, Harrogate, Forest Green, Morecambe and others?
Have any of them become league clubs without being bankrolled and just through hard work?
Is the Salford hate really just hating the Neville Brothers, Giggs and Beckham?
I really don't understand the hate for MK Dons. They have a cool stadium and they're doing OK in the football pyramid without threatening to be world beaters. Harmless enough.
As one of the 140 who used to turn up before the money was put in I’ve got nothing to lose. If it all goes to pot there will still be a Salford City in one form or another… and I’ll probably be able to take my dog. Credit to the owners for doing so much off the pitch with their efforts in the Salford community. This is Salford. Not the most affluent place the UK and we have our problems. But seeing a younger generation of fans getting together and supporting their local team is great to see.
As for the ground, it’s blocked in by a school and houses on three sides and a protected moor on the other. Lack of parking and room to grow means that if the club is anymore successful it is likely that relocation will be necessary. So I’ll continue to buy a season ticket (£100 renewal for over 60’s 23/24 season). Even if the Class of ‘92 pull out I’ll thank them for the ride. It’s been great so far.
Couldn't of said it better myself mate, I love following this club and wouldn't let other people's opinions affect that
Fantastic reply - Really heartfelt. Hope to visit Salford one day.
Same here in Germany: The day I became a member of my football club, got tattoos of it, was the day, when 1860 Munich was relegated from second Bundesliga to lower league in 2017. Our loyalty and love to the Munich Lions broke into space and we went with 15.000 lads to some away days in this season.
Excellent.
Greetings from Australia and another 1860 fan.
As a bayern fan, I hope one day we can have the derby in the bundesliga again.
Germany does seem to have a lot of well supported teams in lower leagues. Is it because of the regular rise and fall phenomenon in your leagues?
0:57 had me go 😂😂
The 7-0 was just a fluke 😂
For me changing the teams colours from orange to red does indicate that it's a vanity project for the class of 92 but what they spend their money on is their business and it does show their love of the game lives on.
It's ironic too how Gary Neville cried on Sky Sports about owners not respecting the history of clubs by wanting to change the names and colours of teams...
It's also not smart to alienate City sympathisers, even if Salford is more United.
Most hated is a big stretch. MK Dons aka Franchise FC are easily the most hated. Salford earned their place by winning games. Some people may dislike the financial aspect of the club, but I have never heard anyone say they dislike Salford.
Lots of people dislike them. Not nearly as many as Milton Keynes but far more than most clubs.
Really a shame how mk came to exist they could have done the same as Salford as I believe there already was a club in existence in about the 8th tier at the time got a lot of conflicted views on it with it being my local
In 2014 I saw Salford lose to Harrogate Railway in the Northern Premier Division One. Now I watch them lose to Harrogate Town in league Two. The more things change the more they stay the same.
Tbf, Harrogate are actually a decent side and have exceeded expectations in League 2 this season with their style of play. Which is more than can be said about Salford... 👀
Makes a change Harrogate Town beating us given your miserable record against us since the Unibond Division One North days!
"Not half of some meat".....There is a touch of Philomena Cunk in you!! Your humour and comments are awesome.
Someone needs to give this woman a contract. Amazing commentary, learnt new stuff and i live about a mile away from the peninsula 😂
100% agree Nieve is fast becoming a national treasure
Hopefully she makes a decent amount off youtube. Wouldn't trust a network to give her a show without forcing her to drop quality
Only if she maintains 100% of the creative freedom.
@@GOTHICforLIFE1 I was just going to say there's no point offering her a job if they insist on her acting and behaving the same way as their other presenters, commentators, pitch side reporters etc etc.
62 away supporters for Salford at my club last year, less than two hours away, on a Saturday afternoon. There simply isn’t the support base for Salford and never will be, so the bubble will burst one day.
It's upto Salford to go out and perform to gain more fans
100% Just isn't the fanbase for the club and no amount of ex-United players buying ownership stakes will ever change that.
Yeah that is a good point and hard to disagree with.
The bubble will not burst.
Remember Manchester City ?
Salford City will be like Manchester City or even more in the near future.
@@Dino_Buk lol
I continue to watch these excellent little documentaries with excellent storytelling, despite never really been a huge football fan. You are a bloody amazing content creator, tv execs should really take note, quality like this is why I don't often switch to live tv. 👍🏻❤️
Seconded! I've become so much more informed about the lower divisions and some really special smaller clubs from these vids!
I live in Australia and don't even support football over here - for some reason I can't get enough of this channel. Its brilliant. Great little bites of life that I love seeing, even if it has very little to do with me.
Us poms are very passionate about our football teams, like it's another religion and we bleed our teams colours when we win or lose. If we imergrate we still follow and support our team it's in our DNA. I now call Perth Western Australia home but still stay up Saturday night/ early Sunday morning following the Gills. ❤
I think the problem is that the Salford owners are willing and able to sustain big losses to fulfill their ambitions. This creates the situation that the other clubs need to spend big to compete, which then necessitates the need for an independent regulator
I never understood why the Nevilles didn't get involved at Bury. And I think it's a shame they didn't. It's their hometown club and their family had strong links there. Surely they could've pointed Lim, Beckham et al that way. With the money the CO92 have spent on Salford Bury could've been saved and likely be having a decent run in the 2nd tier. Instead they rebranded some tiny non league club that has likely hit it's ceiling already in league 2 with 1000 home fans and a tiny un expandable ground. And a proper club up the road now plays in the NWCFL. A league Salford would be more at home in. I say this as a Dale fan too and I'm not exactly supposed supposed like Bury!
Probably the massive debt that Stewart Day built up before he sold it to an asset stripper!
Also Danny Boyle could have afforded to put his hand in his pocket, big film director and Bury fan, Gemma Atkinson apparently loves Bury FC, Guy Garvey, Kieran Trippier, Scott Quigg - maybe they could have put together a consortium? Anyway, they didn't and the fans had to save the club.
they did they sponsor their dads stand the Neville Neville stand...is that not enough
Glad to see you're still using that board Nieve, happy birthday Diana!
One of the worst away days I’ve ever had, treated us really poorly.
On the flip side, the best ever away day was up the road at FC United who couldn’t do enough for us and were the nicest people.
Delusional.
How can it be delusional when it’s fact?
purely out of curiosity, what club are you referring to, and in what capacity (I guess you're a fan) ?. Cheers.@@MrWorfy99
I’m a Solihull Moors supporter but I’ve also been a fan of Manchester United for over 50 years so have no gripe with the class of 92.
On the day of the game it was cold and wet, the announcer kept telling us what wonderful food was available in the home end when all we had was a miserable little kiosk selling soggy burgers.
If we asked anyone from Salford for advice or help all we got was a grunt and a wave of the hand.
We were just made to feel totally unwelcome and it’s a ground I’d definitely think twice about visiting again.
Oh…… and we (deservedly) lost the game.
@@magicalgores3416 Can you expand on that?
Don't have an issue with Salford CIty. It's been 10 years and the class of 92 are still there. Most people with a vanity project would've got bored by now and would likely have given up. Leaving at best a club with no debts, or if they really stopped caring, would leave the club in financial ruin. I hope Salford get some more local support. It sounds like they deserve to.
I don't think we can talk about others giving up by now just yet, only because Salford have enjoyed nothing but success so far, and as long as they do so I don't see anyone giving up on them, regardless of how long they are there for.
We have to wait until an extended period of stagnation (which could be argued we are getting into now) or a setback like their first relegation. Only then will we see how much staying power these guys have.
Currently looking for new investment. Sounds like they’ve lost interest in the failed vanity project to me.
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there are so many football clubs in england that I always thought that if you went into some bushes while walking you'd find a stadium on the other side like in this case lmao
I've watched my own team play in blue since the 1960s and if new owners came in and put in £10m and made them play in red, that would be it for me, I wouldn't go again.
You're my favorite football content creator. Interesting stories, humor, same love for football. You rock!
Here... here.... same !
Great video. My own team Leyton Orient were in the National League at the same time as Salford City (2018-19 season), we got promoted to League Two at the same time, Leyton Orient from being champions and Salford through the play-offs. I didn't like them when they beat us 3-0 at Brisbane Road and almost derailed our return to the League, but aside from that I don't mind them, if they had been a West Ham ex-player vanity project then that would have been a different matter...
If I lived in the greater Manchester area (I Don't) I would go and support Bury.
the fans own the club as well, so no corporatism there
@@mchealey1985 I know you do and I wish you all very well, from a Tranmere Rovers supporter!.
@@merseydave1ledge ❤
I personally have nothing at all against Salford City, it's owners, Club or fans, At the end of the day the Class of 92, saw an opportunity to invest in a Local Football Club and back it as a Business.
So long as they abide by the same rules as the Rest of the League then.......Carry On. The Club Stays viable. The fans Can Support Their Club, Everyone's Happy!! Great Video Nieve, Keep Up The Great Work😄
I can only imagine they're looking at Wrexham and thinking "what are we doing wrong?"
Wrexham are a much bigger club who have spent the majority of their existence in the third tier. Salford are tiny.
@@johnmitchell2269That and Wrexham has more money
Pretty sure Peter Lim has more wealth than Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhaney combined@@Britishgeohistorian
Wrexham are actually a proper club for a start
Wrexham is the biggest city in north wales. It has an independent fan base to draw from whereas everyone that lives in Salford will just support one of the big Manchester clubs.
6:59 I've been a Chelsea fan since the early 90s and can't compete with that. In fact, one of the most traumatic days I ever had as a football fan was coming back from the last game of the season, sitting on the tube, having sent the opposing team down, and your club may have been one of those. The sound of football fans being respectfully silent to opposing fans, some of them grown men in tears, is something I'll never forget.
Another great video..I love your dry humour and informative quirkiness..
Loving all your content but we need mooooore.
Keep up the top top work girl.
Nobody can say that the class of 92 don't care about Salford. The club has only got better I don't see a problem.
It's such a shame. The class of 92 didn't invest in any of the MANY struggling greater Manchester teams. The state of Oldham, Rochdale and Bury this past decade shows that.
But then they wouldn't be able to change the colours and crest without anyone caring!
Nevilles dad i think chairman of Bury at one point, so why didnt they buy an existing club like Bury ,instead just playing fantasty football with a made up club.
I love the auto generated subtitles saying 'post match the training' for 'post match adrenaline'.
I guess that Salford are trying to do in 15 years what most other clubs around them have been trying (and, most often failing) to do for maybe 100 years. To go from the 8th tier with 140 fans to the pro game with 2,500 fans in a decade is still pretty impressive. I guess that fans of other clubs are miffed that they are somehow 'buying success', when the reality is that the owners are putting the building blocks in place for success to be achieved (new stadium, academy, women's team etc.). Fundamentally, those longer established - 'bigger' clubs just don't like a 'disruptor brand' shaking up the established football landscape. As always a great bit of storytelling nicely executed.
Lived just a 20 minute walk from the ground last year safe to say the ground is well hidden in the city! Great work again will be at the peninsula again soon to see how things shape
I live even closer and it's incredible isn't it? It's not even that the ground is hidden but there's no signs, no sort of major transport links to them, no pubs or anything?
When they beat AFC Fylde ,another club that divides opinion, at Wembley there was less than 10,000 there . Make of that what you will
Official attendance was 8,049, half of what Boreham Wood and Tranmere got the previous year.
Solihull v Grimsby in 2022 got almost 23,000, while Notts v Chesterfield was over 38,000. Torquay v Hartlepool didn't manage 7,000, but that was at Ashton Gate, which is a long way (ie 280 miles) from Hartlepool.
I’ve made of that that Wembley is a very big ground. What’s your point?
@@coops1964 They should have played it at a neutral ground between the two clubs , a small club ground like say Ewood Park
They should have played the game at Blackburn.
@@coops1964 I also made of it that sending two north west clubs to London when there are loads of grounds closer is a stupid idea
The most significant development seems to be the establishment of a youth academy, whose success will not be down to the owners of the club but the ability of the academy managements and coaches. If this academy does develop top players, which Salford can sell, then they may establish a sound financial position as well as attract young fans.
I find these types of videos both incredibly relaxing and informative, so refreshing.
The amount of gatekeeping in football (and just general negative atmosphere on football social media) is such a huge bummer.
My great granny moved to Paterson, NJ from Salford in the late 19th century , but it was instilled into my DNA . Although I became a Manchester United fan in 1958 , I hope them success !!!
Why 1958?
@@marknewbold2583 The Munich air disaster occurred on 6 February 1958 when British European Airways Flight 609 crashed on its third attempt to take off at Munich-Riem Airport .. it was in all the Paterson and NYC newspapers and it impacted me in a way I can still remember.
A lot of people like to say people like Gary Neville don’t care about the lower leagues/ non-league. Now he’s going and putting his money where his mouth is and getting criticism.
I guess in the long run more power to them. In North America I see mega dollars buy an expansion franchise in all sports. When it fails they move it or sell it or both, no relegation no promotion, mega bucks does not permit that.
These guys brought this club from next to nowhere to a significant somewhere (league 2). They did it with their own significant capital, but probably nowhere near the mega bucks of N.American sports.
"Most hated club in England"?
No chance - There's at least six English Clubs more hated than Salford City....
1. Milton Keynes Dons
2. Manchester United
3. Liverpool
4. Chelsea
5. Arsenal
6. Forest Green Rovers
I might even put Leeds and Millwall ahead of Salford.
All clubs with decent away support apart from MK dons, they are just plastic crap. 💩
I think its great what they have done for the club. I visited salford city before the class of 92 as an away fan supporting Leigh genesis , its hard to believe thats the same ground i went to back in 2009, looks like a nice little ground now. Wish somebody would have bought Leigh Genesis, they unfortunately folded but have reformed as a sunday league team
My wife is a Darlo fan and she tells me there were multiple incidents of player hoarding by Salford on the way up. To be specific this was when they were not yet a professional club and they would take many of the best players from the Semi-Pro / Amateur football clubs they were competing with, offer them lucrative looking wages, uproot them from their local club tempting them to quit their jobs and move their families. Because they had so many players inevitably many would fall down the pecking order and would be let go. Because they weren't yet a professional club this obviously means they recruit players without giving them any sort of job security and it's easier for the club to pull the plug. I couldn't find any proof of this via google so maybe this is a case of the plural of anecdote not being data.
Salford will struggle to move much further up the pyramid simply because the interest in the club just isn’t there within their catchment area. They have lost a lot of support over the years to the bigger clubs around them so will take them a number of years to build that fan base almost from scratch.
Like a few other league 2 teams, if they get relegated out of the EFL then I really don’t see them returning
Really love your mini documentaries on different Football clubs Nieve you are bossing it as always and i really love the EFL and Non League so much 😊
Who has an issue with Salford? Not me. All power to them. 🐻A Pompey fan.
Got to go to us (MK Dons) next then?
Looking at these comments people don’t really seem to mind Salford, you want a club literally no one likes it’s definitely us and not even close
I applaud that they set up and academy and a women's team, which are both important for the community.
I've seen someone say how is Salford different to Wrexham? One energised the existing fanbase, and one brought in new fans. Are the new fans only there because of the owners? Only time will tell, but Salford has always been a Rugby League town.
What we can say, however, is that Salford are less loathed than MK Dons.
As someone who's a fan of a team at that level, Wrexham were sleeping giants (relatively) who really only needed a bit of investment and to be well run, Salford are basically a team created from scratch as a play thing
Discovered your work watching the Yoyo club video of my team Norwich (loved it by the way!) Great work as always, love your stuff!!
Their hated because of their ties to ex players of the most hated football club in the UK....
I spent the first half of the video wondering when you were going to take a bite of that lamington you were holding. Um...as you were. That line about the pisstake is a classic, and pretty apt for some of these astrotured ventures where a consortium's money struggles to establish the same organic weight of clubs whose identity is forged over generations of ground-up building.
As a Harrogate Town season ticket holder, I have never liked Salford, as we could never beat them. That changed this season, have them on last day of season, so will possibly go to Salford, never been before.
Great content,always enjoy your videos.
Am a Newcastle United supporter and always keep an eye on Gateshead F.C. results I would love to see the reach League one or even the Championship but know that will take some time before that happens
Think the Heed have been to Wembley mare times than the Toon ❤
Gateshead got 600 home fans in the league last night! There is not the support for any sort of club, yet they seem to not be critiqued for this like other clubs do.
The issue with Salford compared with wrexham is that Ryan and rob have an image a positive image of genuinely engaged with the community, involving themselves in local charities and have a perception of genuinely trying to help a historical club that had been mismanaged with their own money.
Salford has no history of past glory and the class of 92 are using the club to relive past glory’s of their past using a foreign businessman billionaire as a backer because they are not prepared to put their money where it counts.
They’ve run roughshod over the fans changing the kit and club logo and when they get board will leave the club in a financial mess.
Why do you think green and gold is the real grass roots club of Manchester 😊
Never put Stockport in the same sentence as Manchester. We’re Cheshire
Funny how Deadpool is doing better at running a club than the class of 92
I love your dedication to your channel, one of my favorites. Ty
why aint Sky Sports or Talk Sport offered this lass a job yet?.. think they are missing a trick here..🤷♂️..
Because Sky Sports and Talk Sport isn't the be all and end all of football commentary....quite the opposite.
Because unlike them she actually does a proper job
I agree she ought to have a wider audience, but the networks would try to throttle out the essence of what makes these vids shine. She'd be the 3-minute ' local colour ' feature, pre-packaged, vapid and lacking those wonderful snarky side comments. These 8 to 10-minute pieces are fascinating. (And besides, most of Nieve's vids are non-PL content; the networks would insist she stay on brand.)
hey... We want here HERE ! Their loss is OUR GAIN !
@@bpbeary8011 Plus shes white
Thanks for the birthday wishes. Kind Regards Diana Ross.
your board behind you is always funny
I thought I was the only one to notice 😊
Diana Ross turned 80 last week. How is that possible?
@@Mxxx-ii9bu Maybe because she was born 80 years ago !
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Wrexham has a history, I’m sure they’ll leave the club in a better condition should they leave. The class of ‘92 are mainly from Salford, they’re doing something at least for their roots.
Only Giggs is from Salford from the class of 92. Never understood why they didn't buy Bury instead. Nevilles grew up watching them and they desperately needed some investment around the same time they bought Salford
@@gilesjones3626 pretty sure Scholes is too isn’t he?
Also Salford/Manchester you’re talking a difference of half a mile. It’s all the same. Anyone that says Trafford isn’t historically Manchester in terms of economic, cultural and society is taking out out their arse.
@@gilesjones3626Giggs is Welsh. Scholes is from Oldham. Neville’s are from Bury. Butty is from Gorton I think. So none of them from Salford.
@@moonbaby6134 wrong. Giggs is from Salford.
Did not know I needed someone who looks like they're from Napoli whilst sounding like Victoria Wood telling me about football, but the algorithm knows all.
Hope you get to do some TV work. Or just more of this, this is cool. You obviously know your stuff, and it's not actually the law that you need to be a guy with some degree of hair loss to make football content.
10 years ago I watched this team struggling to even have working toilets now they have a sustainable club and thrives in the football league.
I’ve recently started going to watch my local tier 9 side and if I had the sort of money to turn them into a League Two club for a bit of fun, I absolutely would. The only difference between Salford and other clubs that have travelled that same road, like Fleetwood Town for example, is the celebrity element.
great stuff, ur vids are all very interesting and my fav part is very different from the standard fair of football news. keep it up.
"The Class of Vincent Tan", as a local newspaper referred to Salford at the time of the class of 92 acquiring them.
always thought it was interesting the different reception the class of 92 got compared to Wrexham who have essentially tried a similar thing as them yet are the media's dream but overspent massively to get out of the conference
Wrexham are one of the oldest clubs in the world and were very well liked already while Salford are a meme invented by men who were loathed by most everyone who doesn't support Manchester
Wrexham actually had an existing fan base and history though. That's why Rob and Ryan chose them, they knew there was a sleeping giant there. Very different to Salford who are trying to manufacture it all.
@@gilesjones3626 a lot of people miss this
If Rob and Ryan pull out of Wrexham tomorrow and they have to become self-sustainable they'll probably be at the bottom end of L2/top end of NL for the next 10 years. Salford? They'd be back in regional football before 2030
Leeds and Millwall is the most hated. Facts.
Football doesn’t need a new independent regulator, it just needs the existing regulators, for that is what they are, to be less supine and less in thrall to money. It has always been the case that money can be brought into clubs and buy success. Broadly fans like it when it happens to their clubs but are less keen when it happens to others, especially when they are bitter and hated rivals. Salford lacks the history of other clubs. But so what? I rather admire these filthy rich ex footballers for wanting to put something back. And I’m a Liverpool fan so that sticks in my throat I can tell you.
Wow! I happened to come across this. Very cool. I’m from Fort Lauderdale. Just wait until you see what happens with this team. I watched Miami Inter grow from nothing into what it is now. 👍👍👍Keep up the amazing job! Thanks
"They' have issues with themselves with a bit of greed and envy. Salford is the Question to me. Great video Stuntpegg.
I hope they have great success, but some clubs have a natural ceiling that can be incredibly tough to break through. They have been brash and impatient at times, but it can't be denied that they've made every decision with the intention of making Salford City better
I remember Salford coming to Marine before they kicked on into the EFL. We had a crowd of 1700 that day and I think Salford had bought a player from the SPL.
Who cares how they got there and how much money they have? It's legal money they've earned and they can spend it how they want.
Brilliant stories as always nieve do , subscriber From Algeria 🇩🇿 passed from here
Is this women ever gonna do a video I can tear apart and smash all my windows, out of pure anger and rage?
NO, I dont think she is up for anything less than 1st Class and top researched content on her channel..., so i'll just have to continue giving her all the thumbs up I can find, and save my rage for others that, only "think" they know what they're dribbling out, all over my screen!
Thank you Neve for all your excellent and detailed work, that you are constantly putting out to educate the football masses.... more of this... please!!
I love StuntPegg's vids. Insightful, educational and witty. Made for football fans everywhere....
Id say MK Dons were more hated than Salford.
Totally agree...
Came across you by chance and love what you post
A'reyt Nieve. I grew up in Manningham, where the Rugby League champions changed to Bradford City. Contrast that to me having lived in Salford. I did go and watch the RL team, but never expected the football team to be in the same division as Bradford City. Their rise in football is not too different though. Bradford won the FA Cup in 1911 just 15 years after being RL champions, when there were wool magnates with plenty of money in that city.
Bradford had a bit of a tiff with Northern Union and Association Football in the early 20th Century, especially when you consider Bradford (Park Avenue) and Bradford FC in 1907
Belated happy birthday, Ms Ross!
Went to Salford stadium on a Newport away as couldn’t get tickets to city game. Even though stadium wasn’t filled, the atmosphere was definitely something you wouldn’t see at a prem game nowadays.
My club is similar AFC Fylde. The chair David Haythornthwaite about 15 years ago took over a NW counties side and said that they would be in the football league by 2022. Many laughed but he put his money there, built a nice new 6000 capacity stadium and very nearly did it missing out in the play off final in 2019. Problem is similar though we average only 2000 fans and a bus load to away games and are universally disliked by the more traditional teams. Being so close to Preston and Blackpool doesn’t help either. Things take time to bake. Hopefully in 10 years time things will have normalised more.
What an absolutely brilliant channel, Great host, great content, love the dry humour too.
Great Vid as always. Love these pieces on smaller clubs
I'm a Tranmere Rovers fan and have no problem with Salford or the path they've taken to join us in the 4th tier. I empathise with the struggle to attract fans when you're in the shadow of big Premier League fish and hope they can pull disillusioned Utd fans to find how much more fun it is, when you feel like you make a difference as a fan by being one of 5000 versus one of 50,000.
Another Tranmere fan here, didn't particularly enjoy my one visit to Peninsular Stadium, It's in the middle of a staunchly residential zone, with little if any amenities in the immediate surrounding areas. The nearest pubs are just about a mile away, and very little public transport links close to the ground (fortunately I drive). But for me, my major problem is their rapid rise up the Leagues - 4 promotions in 5 seasons. That's a bit too much to try and grow a sound fanbase. They've done well to grow from 140 to 1400+. A promotion once every 2-3 seasons might give the club a better chance. They could have then entered the EFL with an established core of around 3000 fans instead of the current 1500-2000.
Bury has a Bolton postcode area and both towns border each other. People from both towns It will always be Lancashire.
Fair enough but…..why are you holding a baby Guinea pig?
There were a lot of players that wanted to play for Salford thinking they could demand big wages
I can see how smaller clubs with potential to improve that are near larger metro areas could have an advantage over smaller clubs that are more rural. However, having some body to regulate these type of things could be more trouble than it’s worth.
I think the problem is AFC Wimbledon, who gained promotion all the way up to league 1, on pure fan power, compared to Salford which was more money driven! Its hard NOT to roote for Wimbledon & theyre fans compared to clubs like Salford & Crawley!
0:44 Wish I could make a girl make that noise with (or without) my net worth :(
Another great video Nieve 👏🏽
Football clubs should be given a listed status. They are that important to a community.
Diana Ross is 80! And still touring. Another great video, Nieve.
Dorking Wanderers would be a really interesting club for you to cover next
Fond memories of playing and refereeing at Salford in the North West Counties League days, can't help feeling the character of the club has been lost with the recent success.
Great video really enjoyed it I live on the same road as the stadium love it &you have a new subscriber looking forward to watching more of your stuff 👏👏
Nobody wanted Adam Rooney in Scotland, to be fair.
Aberdeen would disagree
I've only been there once for a pre season friendly in 2000. The BBC adored them as they won promotions like they adored FCUM. Anything that reflects off MU they adore. They've done very well to increase their fan base from nothing to a couple of thousand. If you asked me to name clubs around here though I'd forget them every time. Salford = rugby league to me.
In a world where Not-Wimbledon exist there will be no club hated more than them. Salford are pretty much a non-story to most fans across the country. Perhaps they may not be liked by people from around the area rather than across the UK
I do love your videos (even if you are a Bolton supporter!!) but I'm surprised there was no comparison here with Wrexham. Both in League 2 and have the '92 lads done anything different to Ryan and Rob? It's really just envy I think.
And maybe next season the mighty Rovers can once again battle and destroy the Wanderers! (Not sure which league it will be in though! :P)