I've been running the Abyss a lot & watched people's clear the past few days, so I made two new videos with more tips to add on this current abyss. I'll leave the link here & down in the description below, so go check them out if you still have troubles getting 36*. 5.2 Spiral Abyss Guide Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/MTmHyDBD13s/v-deo.html 5.2 Spiral Abyss Guide Part 3: ua-cam.com/video/FNzrsuL4QPA/v-deo.html
I really enioyed how in-depth you went into this. The strategies you let us in on to defeat the bosses and their weaknesses are super helpful to a player like me who hasn't reached some of these monsters and don't know how to defeat them. Thank you!
Most hyperbloom can do it, but I used Alhaitham hyperbloom to remove the Papilla shield and it shreds the shield very fast, you should try that, it has high DPS too, so killing it once the shields are down isn't difficult either.
@@patricksarmiento4901 I prefer C6 Xingqiu over Yelan because I think he has higher Hydro application. My team was Nahida/Kuki/Xingqiu/Alhaitham. Xingqiu also increases your team survivability.
@@arnema7 You can always restart, and if you've already gotten 3 stars once, you can take your time and finish slower but with more energy and HP this time around.
Brooo thank you for that video. The burning tip saved my 36* streak, and I didnt know of those "hidden" resistances of the enemy. Maaan that was a piece of work this abyss
This Abyss was the most frustrating in recent time, took me gazillion resets to find good team that can clear that bullshit Papila thing in time while in same time killing that dragon guy in first phase in solid time cuz he wastes time by flying around. the rest of enemies/floors were not problematic tho Ended up doing Papila with Nahihi Xingqiu Fischl and Shinobu, even tho i always think my nahida's damage is shitty compared to what i see ppl do xD but that setup really helped.
For those of you who decides to bring shinobu to the second half, if possible save her burst for the mimic, in my case its rapid hit really helped me breaking the shield
16:20 With zhongli just put the pillar in front of the dog thing, 2/3 of the bar would be filled, and by the time you reach the other one its completely filled. Then just repeat.
11:28 - 12-2 Second Half: The new Abyss boss starts charging and either use nightsoul hits from Nathlan Characters or any fast barrage hitting characters can interrupt it. I even use Alhaitham Spread team with Fischl, Kuki and Nahida and they manage to interrupt the charging. 14:50 - Tip for Golden Wolflord: You can use Zhongli's pillar to hit the 3 wolf spawns that will take 2/3 of its health and keep doing it again until they are removed. As for the rest, we already know how to defeat them
As I have farmed the Tenebrous Papilla Boss quite a lot to Level Up my Chasca and have tried a few different Teams to see which ones were good, I can confirm that a Kinich Burn Team is excellent at quickly destroying the Boss' Shield, for 2 main reasons: 1- Kinich's Skill allows to launch a constant barrage of quick Attacks that will make short work of the Shield because they deal Nightsoul Damage too. 2- The added bonus of using Burn on this Boss is that it's a Reaction that constantly deals Elemental DMG at a very quick rate. So, with these 2 Factors combined, a Kinich Burn Team really excels at quickly disposing of this Boss! Of course, a lot of other Teams also work great, and only having Xilonen in the Team was more than enough to break the Shield... *HOWEVER that's only valid in the Overworld, because remember: in the Spiral Abyss, you don't have your Natlan Phlogiston Bar to extend the Duration of Natlan Characters' Nightsoul Blessing State!* So you must plan accordingly when building your Teams for Abyss 12! ~> Chasca, especially combined with Ororon, is as good as it gets! I haven't had the chance yet to compare the difference in clear time between the Kinich Burn Comp & Chasca Rainbow Team with Ororon, especially in the Abyss, without the Phlogiston Bar, but they're both excellent Teams. HOWEVER _(yes, another one),_ if we're talking purely in terms of Versatility _(as in how good they'll perform in all 3 Chambers)_ for those 2 Teams, then I believe that Chasca's Rainbow Team with Ororon probably has an edge! Kinich Burn Team Composition: • Kinich • Emilie • Xiangling • Bennett That's the most basic form of this Burn Team and it performs really well! Since Burn is pretty much a Self-Sustaining Reaction, you don't need to have a huge amount of Pyro Application, but it really does help! For more Defensive Utility, you could swap Xiangling with Dehya, as she offers sufficient Off-Field Pyro Application for this Team. At C0, it's quite a Team DPS loss compared to Xiangling, but it still works pretty well. There are also a few other Character Substitutions, but Emilie deals quite impressive DPS AND provides an almost irreplaceable Survivability Factor: 85% Pyro Resistance against Burning Damage, which makes a HUGE difference, especially against a Boss that Hits very hard like the Tenebrous Papilla!
ive been able to beat spiral abyss since the beginning (even the infamous 3.7 spiral abyss) but man 5.2 spiral is rlly kicking my butt i cant even get past chamber 2 now, anw thanks for this vid!! gonna try out most of these comps
I barely play Genshin nowadays but I never missed a single Abyss clear even the hard ones, I'm struggling hard on this one specifically on the last chamber, wolflord is such a cheese.
This abyss just proved something to me: Natlan characters are absolute ass If they are supports, fine they work but the DPSs so far have been absolute AAAAASSSS xilonen is great, i love her, shes so good for my Navia team but Chasca, holy shit, Chasca is so utterly ass Her damage is good no doubt BUT her beast teams literally need two of the best buffers in the game (Furina and Bennett) and, imo, ir a character needs that many buffs then maybe they are not that good I passed floor 12 with Navia, Xingqiu, Furina and Xilonen first half and Arlecchino, Bennett, Yelan, Chasca (Chasca was just there to break the stupid flower thing, thats all she did in my rotation)
Nah dude I don't agree that without Furina she can't be used. I used neuvi,furina,ning,xilonen on 1st half and other half it's benny, xianglin, rosaria,chasca got 36 stars.
there's always a reason why not to use furina with chasca, in my case i just straightforwardly replaced her with mona ttds and it works fine as intended since i don't have her (skipped, i don't like the majority of meta characters rn) i don't see a reason why always use furina, not to mention ALMOST all DPSes rn (whether u agree or not) requires furina and/or bennett.
Naaah, Chasca is pretty flexible and doesn't *need* Furina/Bennet. She's like Nuevillette where all you want are the elements so characters like TotM Deyha, ToDS Kokomi/Mona/Charlotte are all you need along with smart positioning to succeed w/ her.
thanks for the guide!!💛 I honestly brute forced my team for all chambers cause I did not want to redo all of them just so chamber 3 has a better team. Those 50 primos were not worth the annoyance 😬 MHY I hate this abyss thanks so much
every abyss iteration is getting shit every patch. enemies are having more health, the are heavy cannot be grouped and they move a lot. hoyo just keep on buffing these 3 things. the abyss is not that rewarding anymore
They should start letting us use our characters as many times as we want instead of limiting them to one chamber. Or we can borrow other people’s characters
thats so truee! I hate how they punish you for not pulling Chasca all the time, I don't have any issue with abyss for really long time, and from few patches is freaking nightmare. I don't have fun at all...
For the mimic in 12.2 I used xingqiu yelan baizhu and raiden (all 5* c0 and 4* weapons), which shredded the shield faster than my Alhaitham hyperbloom team could, it also carried really well into 12.3 so would definitely recommend that one
I was doing some testing with off-meta, and I can confirm Tignari Quicken with Lisa and Fischl can also take down the shield. I was using Kirara. It does need Lisa burst charged, but thankfully Fischl can be C0. Kirara Skill into Burst, Fischl skill, Lisa burst, Tighnari Skill, 1 Charged Attack, Tighnari Burst, 2 more Tignari charged attacks. The Nightsoul shield should be gone some time between the final 2 charged attacks depending on how many of the Kirara burst projectiles hit.
Amber burst hits 18 times to shred through a good chunk of the Tenebrous Papilla's ward. Pair that with Burning's ticking damage and that ward will fall quickly. Amber can hold something like Deepwood there. Amber Burst procs Deepwood which lasts for 8 seconds, then toss out Baron Bunny and whenever Baron Bunny explodes, it will refresh Deepwood. If you're using Amber as your Deepwood holder, it would let you run the Obsidian Codex and Reverie sets for Kinich and Emilie respectively if you're using them. If you don't want to run a Burning team, Amber can always hold a support set like Noblesse or Instructor. She also has a short 12 second cooldown on her burst, so you may even be able to squeeze 2 bursts in the time limit if you're quick and have good energy generation. That 12 second cooldown also matches the Noblesse buff's uptime, so if you can play a team with a short rotation, that can keep your team fully buffed. Bonus points if you also have Amber's c6 for the extra Atk buff there. And then Amber serves as your bow user for Aeonblight Drake. And since Amber is just there for support and her personal damage doesn't really matter, you can put really cheap investment on her and only give her Energy Recharge and maybe some HP if you're worried about her dying.
They seriously should have made it so the more stacks she gets the way harder she hits the shield, right now, even when it's charged it does jack shit elemental shield damage and that applies to that abyss boss thing
Wolford Skull tips: Yunjin Hold Skill, breaks on a single cast. The CD is almost in sync with the travel time between skulls NINGUANG: aim. NORMAL into Charge. This will be 3 geo hits with her stars: (Edit for typo)
To break papilla shield i used arlecchino fishcl(c4) xinqiu xilonen and yeah its a white tassel arlecchino but you can clear in tims and if not xilonen then use kachina (I tried and it works)
tip for the papilla that helped me beat this abyss: neuvillette can survive its instakill attack if you use his charged attack to heal right after it does damage the first time. once you get the timing down, you dont need to bring shield breakers, just bring decent res shred for the rest of the fight.
if you skip Chasca and struggle with second chamber of 12floor, team that works for me the best was Nahida, Ororon(use Fishl if yours is build), Clorinde and Xingqiu, but I had clear first chamber for 3* with Arlecchino so keep that in mind it's not best solution for whole run As first team I used Navia, Furina, Benett and Xilonen
hate that flower had bring out thoma and chev team to kill it with raiden fuck it! wolf lord was easy with xilonen and wow this gonna be hell for new player omg i forgot how good hyperbloom is just destroyed it with nahida kuki yelan xing
I don’t understand how this papilla boss works, I break the shield on time but it still kills my character in an instant. I even got an achievement for breaking the shield but it wiped the team regardless, so I’m stuck. I have a C6 Zhongli, and he’s dead immediately, what is the point of the abyss anymore?
It's possible you simultaneously broke the shield but got hit by the 1 hit KO attack at the same time (knowing how glitchy that boss is). The attack seems to be a 1 hit KO similar to the Raiden Shogun boss, so it's likely no amount of shield or HP can face-tank it. (I don't have an account to test the extreme - with a 70k HP Nilou behind a Zhongli shield, not that it would grant much value to test that given those two won't be able to defeat the boss in time anyway.) That said if you have Zhongli, his burst has such a long animation that you can just wait for the attack to be over. As for the point of the Abyss, it's drive sales. It's been ramping up the fake difficulty ever since about version 3.6 (with what creators called the "Nilou Abyss"). Fontaine added the Abyss that had ungroupable enemies in a line (to sell or "punish" players for not getting Neuvilette). Version 5.1 just increased the HP to sell Natlan characters who have all have top 5 of the highest single DPS in the game, except maybe C0 Chasca at the moment. This Abyss looks like a poor attempt to sell the Neuvilette+Zhongli banner with the first side, and "punishment" for not buying a Natlan character on the second side. I mention poor attempt because someone seems to have forgotten Zhongli while able to handle the wolflord skulls solo, can't act as solo sustain against corrosion, and a team with only Mualani as the Natlan character won't clear the nightsoul shield check.
I had times where i broke the shield, reset and did the exact same thing and for some reason it wouldn't break. Must be a bug or some type of connectivity issue.
In 12-2-2 I tried to hyperbloom Papilla's shield about 100 times and never managed to break it in time (always almost broke it, but never completely). So I i-framed the deadly attack, hyperbloomed all the monster forms it turned into ... and then it started to do the shield thing again. But this time I had a lot of dendro cores all around, all skills and bursts ready and I managed to break it and 3* this chamber just a few seconds before the time limit for 3 stars passed. Team used: Xingqui (C6 level 80) - Yelan (C0 level 80) - Nahida (C0 level 90) - Kuki (C1 level 90) . With Alhaitham instead of Yelan, my team was not fast enough.
I used that exact team but I could always break it without issues when I learned how to do it. Ideally you should have Xingqiu Q and Yelan Q ready, swap for Kuki E and burst if available and just E + spam basic on Nahida. It's pretty tight on time but it mages to finish the shield without wasting anytime using the slow single hit/non hit skills (don't use Nahida burst for example).
@@Larkian Then it seems the only problem for me was lacking their bursts. After the previous chamber the only one having her burst ready at the beginning was Yelan. Nahida did not have her burst ready as well, so did not use it. Xingqui had his burst later for i-framing the deadly attack. The team killed Papilla even with the 80% res, but it was tight.
Lmao at putting a geo check and a bow check on either side at 12-3, rip any F2P who can't just waste an entire spot for dumb **** like this. I come back to this game every 2 weeks to clear both modes at least, it gets worse every single patch
Yes, it does work. I've mentioned this somewhere in the video. If you do intend to use EC, bring Fischl along since she's great in breaking the Mimic's shield.
If you didn't try Vaporize (Pyro DPS), units like Beidou or Electro-Charged teams would help. Hyperbloom works too, Burgeon also works o some extend. Otherwise, your teams might lack DPS needed to clear in time. If you need help, let me know what teams you tried against them.
I need some help with the 11-3-2. I can`t figure out this hydro units. They are doing so much damage and variety of attacks I keep dying/ I`ve been re-watching the video, but I don`t get how do you proc the hydro shield? There are some crystals on the floor, but I don`t see any in my playthrough. What are the conditions to generate those? Thank you
Geo attacks against enemies that have an element applied to them make a Crystallize reaction that drop the little crystal with the element it reacted with. Since those monsters are permanently self applying Hydro it generates and Hydro crystal that tanks better Hydro attacks and in the team showcased, Kachina skill applies the Geo damage when it hits the monster. Also you have to time your dodges if you use Bennett because Bennett Q applies Pyro the the onfield character inside the circle, and the monsters can Vaporize their attacks for extra damage.
tips for the hydro cocodrile thing in 12-1-1? I'm going furina/nahida/zhongli/neuvi and i can kill everything no problem under 40 seconds EXCEPT the hydro consecrated beast bc of the hydro resistance ugh
Yes, just use anemo instead of Nahida. I used team Xilonen, Neuvi, Furina and Kazuha (with Viridescent) and they killed fast the whole Chamber 12 first half, even those crocodiles. Tried with Zhongli and it is fast too.
I didn't even get through 12-1 in 3 star time using neuvilette and arlecchino. Im just not gonna bother with floor 12 this time. Espacially not for ONE singular pull. Most people would probably be better of using their time for natlan exploration to farm pulls instead of taking 50 tries to maybe 36 star abyss.
thought I was the only one struggling with chamber 1. Tbf I'm using nahida hyperbloom not neuvillette but the first half is still taking forever. Second half is much easier but I would have wasted too much time at the start that I can't finish it in time.
Your 12-2 2nd half tip about running towards a corner have a problem. After that special attack the boss will have 80% Elemental Resistance and you are doomed
She needs help from some other elemental application to break them, even with constellation 2 (C2). A C2 Kachina doing burst, waiting for the burst to cool down, followed by skill can break a skull, but then you're stuck on the next skull with exactly one geo application or 10 non-geo applications missing. There might be a way to get that third application if you are riding the turbo twirly and are timing the hits almost frame perfect to line up with internal cooldown, but I wouldn't count on it given that boss is still attacking you while in that phase.
abyss is sht, its like you vs chatgpt. if your playing dota. Dendi loss to fcking AI. its not skill issue. raiden kuki collei alhaithm cant break charge the shield. stop at 95%. the worst part maybe 99% dodging is even NOT an option. atleast they should balance. if kachina a bow to change collei. the MF next will fly. 3star 2star 1star flies away.
I've been running the Abyss a lot & watched people's clear the past few days, so I made two new videos with more tips to add on this current abyss. I'll leave the link here & down in the description below, so go check them out if you still have troubles getting 36*.
5.2 Spiral Abyss Guide Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/MTmHyDBD13s/v-deo.html
5.2 Spiral Abyss Guide Part 3: ua-cam.com/video/FNzrsuL4QPA/v-deo.html
All the time waster bosses in ONE abyss. What a time
The update team is out of touch these days.
i pulled a nuev
atleast it doesn't have wenut or ruin serpent
@@set_your_heart_ablaze-444nah but my geo team sucks and the wolflord itself takes like 2:30
@@tuxidokamenI don’t understand, Abyss rewards should be there to help F2P people get characters they want. No point in making it hard
There was literally no need for this nightsoul shit 👏👏
Agreege
MHY really knows how to take the fun out of this game
I really enioyed how in-depth you went into this. The strategies you let us in on to defeat the bosses and their weaknesses are super helpful to a player like me who hasn't reached some of these monsters and don't know how to defeat them. Thank you!
Most hyperbloom can do it, but I used Alhaitham hyperbloom to remove the Papilla shield and it shreds the shield very fast, you should try that, it has high DPS too, so killing it once the shields are down isn't difficult either.
Did that beforebut using Fischl but not Yelan bcuz I dont have her and I assume u do in this Alhaitham Hyperbloom, right?
what if half of my team gets absolutely murdered by geovishap in chamber 1 and all that's left is nahida and a half hp yelan
@@patricksarmiento4901 I prefer C6 Xingqiu over Yelan because I think he has higher Hydro application. My team was Nahida/Kuki/Xingqiu/Alhaitham. Xingqiu also increases your team survivability.
@@arnema7 You can always restart, and if you've already gotten 3 stars once, you can take your time and finish slower but with more energy and HP this time around.
@Shashank7170 i restarted 7 times already and tried 5 different team comps and still can't get my entire team to 3
Brooo thank you for that video. The burning tip saved my 36* streak, and I didnt know of those "hidden" resistances of the enemy.
Maaan that was a piece of work this abyss
This Abyss was the most frustrating in recent time, took me gazillion resets to find good team that can clear that bullshit Papila thing in time while in same time killing that dragon guy in first phase in solid time cuz he wastes time by flying around. the rest of enemies/floors were not problematic tho
Ended up doing Papila with Nahihi Xingqiu Fischl and Shinobu, even tho i always think my nahida's damage is shitty compared to what i see ppl do xD but that setup really helped.
For those of you who decides to bring shinobu to the second half, if possible save her burst for the mimic, in my case its rapid hit really helped me breaking the shield
Yeah, my Nahida/Yelan/Kuki/Alhaitham could easily break the 12-2-2 boss, just Nahida should not use her Burst, as it takes too much time.
Thanks for putting in the work! I was not ready for the wolf lord. It looks like I need to learn how to dodge :).
16:20 With zhongli just put the pillar in front of the dog thing, 2/3 of the bar would be filled, and by the time you reach the other one its completely filled. Then just repeat.
11:28 - 12-2 Second Half: The new Abyss boss starts charging and either use nightsoul hits from Nathlan Characters or any fast barrage hitting characters can interrupt it. I even use Alhaitham Spread team with Fischl, Kuki and Nahida and they manage to interrupt the charging.
14:50 - Tip for Golden Wolflord: You can use Zhongli's pillar to hit the 3 wolf spawns that will take 2/3 of its health and keep doing it again until they are removed.
As for the rest, we already know how to defeat them
This video is great! Thank you for sharing so many tips
As I have farmed the Tenebrous Papilla Boss quite a lot to Level Up my Chasca and have tried a few different Teams to see which ones were good, I can confirm that a Kinich Burn Team is excellent at quickly destroying the Boss' Shield, for 2 main reasons:
1- Kinich's Skill allows to launch a constant barrage of quick Attacks that will make short work of the Shield because they deal Nightsoul Damage too.
2- The added bonus of using Burn on this Boss is that it's a Reaction that constantly deals Elemental DMG at a very quick rate.
So, with these 2 Factors combined, a Kinich Burn Team really excels at quickly disposing of this Boss!
Of course, a lot of other Teams also work great, and only having Xilonen in the Team was more than enough to break the Shield...
*HOWEVER that's only valid in the Overworld, because remember: in the Spiral Abyss, you don't have your Natlan Phlogiston Bar to extend the Duration of Natlan Characters' Nightsoul Blessing State!*
So you must plan accordingly when building your Teams for Abyss 12!
~> Chasca, especially combined with Ororon, is as good as it gets! I haven't had the chance yet to compare the difference in clear time between the Kinich Burn Comp & Chasca Rainbow Team with Ororon, especially in the Abyss, without the Phlogiston Bar, but they're both excellent Teams.
HOWEVER _(yes, another one),_ if we're talking purely in terms of Versatility _(as in how good they'll perform in all 3 Chambers)_ for those 2 Teams, then I believe that Chasca's Rainbow Team with Ororon probably has an edge!
Kinich Burn Team Composition:
• Kinich
• Emilie
• Xiangling
• Bennett
That's the most basic form of this Burn Team and it performs really well!
Since Burn is pretty much a Self-Sustaining Reaction, you don't need to have a huge amount of Pyro Application, but it really does help!
For more Defensive Utility, you could swap Xiangling with Dehya, as she offers sufficient Off-Field Pyro Application for this Team. At C0, it's quite a Team DPS loss compared to Xiangling, but it still works pretty well.
There are also a few other Character Substitutions, but Emilie deals quite impressive DPS AND provides an almost irreplaceable Survivability Factor: 85% Pyro Resistance against Burning Damage, which makes a HUGE difference, especially against a Boss that Hits very hard like the Tenebrous Papilla!
Thank you! I don’t know if I have the characters to clear it yet, but you’re saving me a ton of time. At least I know why I won’t 36 star it.
ive been able to beat spiral abyss since the beginning (even the infamous 3.7 spiral abyss) but man 5.2 spiral is rlly kicking my butt i cant even get past chamber 2 now, anw thanks for this vid!! gonna try out most of these comps
The hardest Abyss we've had was in 4.7 and 4.8. Chamber 1 was so hard that I - a complete F2P - decided to pull Furina C1.
I barely play Genshin nowadays but I never missed a single Abyss clear even the hard ones, I'm struggling hard on this one specifically on the last chamber, wolflord is such a cheese.
Thanks a lot…hope this will help…as I didn’t even tried yet this abyss…but I saw some of friends struggling too much
the turf wolf is the bane of my existence
This abyss just proved something to me:
Natlan characters are absolute ass
If they are supports, fine they work but the DPSs so far have been absolute AAAAASSSS
xilonen is great, i love her, shes so good for my Navia team
but Chasca, holy shit, Chasca is so utterly ass
Her damage is good no doubt BUT her beast teams literally need two of the best buffers in the game (Furina and Bennett) and, imo, ir a character needs that many buffs then maybe they are not that good
I passed floor 12 with Navia, Xingqiu, Furina and Xilonen first half and Arlecchino, Bennett, Yelan, Chasca (Chasca was just there to break the stupid flower thing, thats all she did in my rotation)
I concur.
Nah dude I don't agree that without Furina she can't be used. I used neuvi,furina,ning,xilonen on 1st half and other half it's benny, xianglin, rosaria,chasca got 36 stars.
Skill issue
there's always a reason why not to use furina with chasca, in my case i just straightforwardly replaced her with mona ttds and it works fine as intended since i don't have her (skipped, i don't like the majority of meta characters rn)
i don't see a reason why always use furina, not to mention ALMOST all DPSes rn (whether u agree or not) requires furina and/or bennett.
Naaah, Chasca is pretty flexible and doesn't *need* Furina/Bennet. She's like Nuevillette where all you want are the elements so characters like TotM Deyha, ToDS Kokomi/Mona/Charlotte are all you need along with smart positioning to succeed w/ her.
thanks for the guide!!💛 I honestly brute forced my team for all chambers cause I did not want to redo all of them just so chamber 3 has a better team. Those 50 primos were not worth the annoyance 😬
MHY I hate this abyss thanks so much
You saved me a lot on the wolflord. finally cleared 36 stars.
every abyss iteration is getting shit every patch. enemies are having more health, the are heavy cannot be grouped and they move a lot. hoyo just keep on buffing these 3 things. the abyss is not that rewarding anymore
They should start letting us use our characters as many times as we want instead of limiting them to one chamber.
Or we can borrow other people’s characters
thats so truee! I hate how they punish you for not pulling Chasca all the time, I don't have any issue with abyss for really long time, and from few patches is freaking nightmare. I don't have fun at all...
@@algozord same!! i'm desperate💀
For the mimic in 12.2 I used xingqiu yelan baizhu and raiden (all 5* c0 and 4* weapons), which shredded the shield faster than my Alhaitham hyperbloom team could, it also carried really well into 12.3 so would definitely recommend that one
I was doing some testing with off-meta, and I can confirm Tignari Quicken with Lisa and Fischl can also take down the shield. I was using Kirara. It does need Lisa burst charged, but thankfully Fischl can be C0.
Kirara Skill into Burst, Fischl skill, Lisa burst, Tighnari Skill, 1 Charged Attack, Tighnari Burst, 2 more Tignari charged attacks.
The Nightsoul shield should be gone some time between the final 2 charged attacks depending on how many of the Kirara burst projectiles hit.
Amber burst hits 18 times to shred through a good chunk of the Tenebrous Papilla's ward. Pair that with Burning's ticking damage and that ward will fall quickly. Amber can hold something like Deepwood there. Amber Burst procs Deepwood which lasts for 8 seconds, then toss out Baron Bunny and whenever Baron Bunny explodes, it will refresh Deepwood. If you're using Amber as your Deepwood holder, it would let you run the Obsidian Codex and Reverie sets for Kinich and Emilie respectively if you're using them.
If you don't want to run a Burning team, Amber can always hold a support set like Noblesse or Instructor. She also has a short 12 second cooldown on her burst, so you may even be able to squeeze 2 bursts in the time limit if you're quick and have good energy generation. That 12 second cooldown also matches the Noblesse buff's uptime, so if you can play a team with a short rotation, that can keep your team fully buffed. Bonus points if you also have Amber's c6 for the extra Atk buff there.
And then Amber serves as your bow user for Aeonblight Drake.
And since Amber is just there for support and her personal damage doesn't really matter, you can put really cheap investment on her and only give her Energy Recharge and maybe some HP if you're worried about her dying.
Thank you for the Zhongly tip!! I finally beat that wolf in time
THAT WOLF MF WASTE SOO MUCH TIMEEEEE !!! ARGHHHHH!!!..
Mualani is horrible for the purple monster
okay i thought i was just really doing it wrong it something lol. how is she the first limited 5 star natlan and she can’t even kill this boss right 😭
@stoner8918 it's annoying, I only have her and now I have to wait for the pyro archon.
@@stoner8918kinich can but he's the weakest natlan dps overall 😐
@@stoner8918 It's bc u need someone that can do a lot of elemental application for that boss and mualani cant do that while Kinich can
They seriously should have made it so the more stacks she gets the way harder she hits the shield, right now, even when it's charged it does jack shit elemental shield damage and that applies to that abyss boss thing
This is why I liked Imaginarium Theater more
Wolford Skull tips:
Yunjin Hold Skill, breaks on a single cast. The CD is almost in sync with the travel time between skulls
NINGUANG: aim. NORMAL into Charge. This will be 3 geo hits with her stars:
(Edit for typo)
This abyss making me to think about quitting the game
Woldloed and natlan boss makes this abyss so hard
To break papilla shield i used arlecchino fishcl(c4) xinqiu xilonen and yeah its a white tassel arlecchino but you can clear in tims and if not xilonen then use kachina (I tried and it works)
tip for the papilla that helped me beat this abyss: neuvillette can survive its instakill attack if you use his charged attack to heal right after it does damage the first time. once you get the timing down, you dont need to bring shield breakers, just bring decent res shred for the rest of the fight.
9:48 bro u just make me laugh there 😂 nc tech
if you skip Chasca and struggle with second chamber of 12floor, team that works for me the best was Nahida, Ororon(use Fishl if yours is build), Clorinde and Xingqiu, but I had clear first chamber for 3* with Arlecchino so keep that in mind it's not best solution for whole run
As first team I used Navia, Furina, Benett and Xilonen
Navia elemental skill + 3 auto attacks can destroy the skulls from the wolflord.
They should start letting us reuse our characters for the next chamber
I wanna use my Neuvillette twice man
how much do you spend on Genshin? Only paid players in China server get demand listened to. Can you spend a lot to get this request/complaint?
Fr man, just wanna use Neuvillette in literally everything.
Dude wtf were they thinking
That's the thing, the designers for the abyss never think
hate that flower had bring out thoma and chev team to kill it with raiden fuck it! wolf lord was easy with xilonen and wow this gonna be hell for new player
omg i forgot how good hyperbloom is just destroyed it with nahida kuki yelan xing
4:40 fighting them with lyney without a shield is torture😭😭😭
I don’t understand how this papilla boss works, I break the shield on time but it still kills my character in an instant. I even got an achievement for breaking the shield but it wiped the team regardless, so I’m stuck. I have a C6 Zhongli, and he’s dead immediately, what is the point of the abyss anymore?
It's possible you simultaneously broke the shield but got hit by the 1 hit KO attack at the same time (knowing how glitchy that boss is). The attack seems to be a 1 hit KO similar to the Raiden Shogun boss, so it's likely no amount of shield or HP can face-tank it. (I don't have an account to test the extreme - with a 70k HP Nilou behind a Zhongli shield, not that it would grant much value to test that given those two won't be able to defeat the boss in time anyway.)
That said if you have Zhongli, his burst has such a long animation that you can just wait for the attack to be over.
As for the point of the Abyss, it's drive sales. It's been ramping up the fake difficulty ever since about version 3.6 (with what creators called the "Nilou Abyss"). Fontaine added the Abyss that had ungroupable enemies in a line (to sell or "punish" players for not getting Neuvilette). Version 5.1 just increased the HP to sell Natlan characters who have all have top 5 of the highest single DPS in the game, except maybe C0 Chasca at the moment.
This Abyss looks like a poor attempt to sell the Neuvilette+Zhongli banner with the first side, and "punishment" for not buying a Natlan character on the second side. I mention poor attempt because someone seems to have forgotten Zhongli while able to handle the wolflord skulls solo, can't act as solo sustain against corrosion, and a team with only Mualani as the Natlan character won't clear the nightsoul shield check.
I had times where i broke the shield, reset and did the exact same thing and for some reason it wouldn't break. Must be a bug or some type of connectivity issue.
Forgot the "have a good enough/ not crap artefacts" tips
In 12-2-2 I tried to hyperbloom Papilla's shield about 100 times and never managed to break it in time (always almost broke it, but never completely). So I i-framed the deadly attack, hyperbloomed all the monster forms it turned into ... and then it started to do the shield thing again. But this time I had a lot of dendro cores all around, all skills and bursts ready and I managed to break it and 3* this chamber just a few seconds before the time limit for 3 stars passed. Team used: Xingqui (C6 level 80) - Yelan (C0 level 80) - Nahida (C0 level 90) - Kuki (C1 level 90) . With Alhaitham instead of Yelan, my team was not fast enough.
I used that exact team but I could always break it without issues when I learned how to do it. Ideally you should have Xingqiu Q and Yelan Q ready, swap for Kuki E and burst if available and just E + spam basic on Nahida. It's pretty tight on time but it mages to finish the shield without wasting anytime using the slow single hit/non hit skills (don't use Nahida burst for example).
@@Larkian Then it seems the only problem for me was lacking their bursts. After the previous chamber the only one having her burst ready at the beginning was Yelan. Nahida did not have her burst ready as well, so did not use it. Xingqui had his burst later for i-framing the deadly attack. The team killed Papilla even with the 80% res, but it was tight.
Lmao at putting a geo check and a bow check on either side at 12-3, rip any F2P who can't just waste an entire spot for dumb **** like this. I come back to this game every 2 weeks to clear both modes at least, it gets worse every single patch
Thank you so much❤ doing God's job🙏
I hate these consecreated beasts
One of the worst spiral abyss since....ever?
There are like 4 or 5 characters in this game that have night soul mechanic and MHY is so stupid they put in a night soul boss......
12:11 Doesn't the abyss version requires 72 hits?
You're right on that one. I had a feeling that it was more than the Overworld variant but couldn't confirm it until the wiki was updated.
I think ororon electro charged also work on the natlan boss shield?
Yes, it does work. I've mentioned this somewhere in the video. If you do intend to use EC, bring Fischl along since she's great in breaking the Mimic's shield.
@@ithirealgenshinbut I don’t have fischl 😭😭
Try ororon hyperbloom, nahida/ororon/kuki/yelan or xq u can break 12-2 shield rlly fast. I'm fullstar the abyss with this random comp lol
Thanks brother
this thumbnail is um… way too similar to sevy’s
Planning on changing it once Sevy makes her return (which seems to be soon?). Her thumbnails are really good that I'd have to admit.
I cant beat those water enemies in time on floor 11
If you didn't try Vaporize (Pyro DPS), units like Beidou or Electro-Charged teams would help. Hyperbloom works too, Burgeon also works o some extend. Otherwise, your teams might lack DPS needed to clear in time.
If you need help, let me know what teams you tried against them.
I need some help with the 11-3-2. I can`t figure out this hydro units. They are doing so much damage and variety of attacks I keep dying/ I`ve been re-watching the video, but I don`t get how do you proc the hydro shield? There are some crystals on the floor, but I don`t see any in my playthrough. What are the conditions to generate those? Thank you
Geo attacks against enemies that have an element applied to them make a Crystallize reaction that drop the little crystal with the element it reacted with.
Since those monsters are permanently self applying Hydro it generates and Hydro crystal that tanks better Hydro attacks and in the team showcased, Kachina skill applies the Geo damage when it hits the monster. Also you have to time your dodges if you use Bennett because Bennett Q applies Pyro the the onfield character inside the circle, and the monsters can Vaporize their attacks for extra damage.
Why the chamber 11 floor 3 is draining hp my team off field what's the explanation
tips for the hydro cocodrile thing in 12-1-1? I'm going furina/nahida/zhongli/neuvi and i can kill everything no problem under 40 seconds EXCEPT the hydro consecrated beast bc of the hydro resistance ugh
You could replace Nahida w/ an Anemo VV unit to help shred more RES. Otherwise, I've found that Neuvillette Hyperbloom works pretty well.
Yes, just use anemo instead of Nahida. I used team Xilonen, Neuvi, Furina and Kazuha (with Viridescent) and they killed fast the whole Chamber 12 first half, even those crocodiles. Tried with Zhongli and it is fast too.
I didn't even get through 12-1 in 3 star time using neuvilette and arlecchino. Im just not gonna bother with floor 12 this time. Espacially not for ONE singular pull. Most people would probably be better of using their time for natlan exploration to farm pulls instead of taking 50 tries to maybe 36 star abyss.
thought I was the only one struggling with chamber 1. Tbf I'm using nahida hyperbloom not neuvillette but the first half is still taking forever. Second half is much easier but I would have wasted too much time at the start that I can't finish it in time.
Good 👍 you Using C6 ?
If u dont beat this abyss it doesnt mean your weak or you have skill issue
It just means you didnt develop ur characters well enough 😊
Your 12-2 2nd half tip about running towards a corner have a problem. After that special attack the boss will have 80% Elemental Resistance and you are doomed
Let’s be honest the only reason they added this useless night souls thing so ppl keep paying to win for all those characters it’s ridiculous
How good would kachina be against the golden wolf lord skuls?
She needs help from some other elemental application to break them, even with constellation 2 (C2).
A C2 Kachina doing burst, waiting for the burst to cool down, followed by skill can break a skull, but then you're stuck on the next skull with exactly one geo application or 10 non-geo applications missing. There might be a way to get that third application if you are riding the turbo twirly and are timing the hits almost frame perfect to line up with internal cooldown, but I wouldn't count on it given that boss is still attacking you while in that phase.
I used ningguang with fav and cinder city set. She did much better
I cant 3 star this time. huhuhuhu
I beat Floor 12 with Arlecchino and Raiden Shogun (C0, R0)... At World Level 45. Hehehe, not gonna ascend my World
world ascension doesn’t affect abyss difficulty
@SeaguIISoup 😎😎 that's why, using lvl 80 characters
@@Takumo8332 that’s actually crazy lol, good job man
Max stars?
I only have 1 Nathan built character.....floor 12-2 was horrible
I hate the tree
albedo :(
I’m don’t with it! This the first abyss in a long time I can’t beat in a long time!!
abyss is sht, its like you vs chatgpt. if your playing dota. Dendi loss to fcking AI. its not skill issue.
raiden kuki collei alhaithm cant break charge the shield. stop at 95%. the worst part maybe 99% dodging is even NOT an option. atleast they should balance. if kachina a bow to change collei. the MF next will fly.
3star
2star
1star flies away.
God I watched so many videos on this and still can't 36 star it, what am I even doing wrong🫠
which chamber?
Good abyss