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Saving Saint Quartz with Single Pulls

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2018
  • After I posted a series of videos on the differences between card distributions in single pulls compared to multi rolls, a number of you pointed out that single pulls still have an advantage when it comes to saving Saint Quartz. Namely that you can stop as soon as you hit your target, instead of being forced to pull up to 9 more times.
    Let's talk about how much Saint Quartz we could expect to save with single pulls, and how it stacks up against the other differences between multi rolls.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 639

  • @lopez.jacinto.6726
    @lopez.jacinto.6726 6 років тому +1211

    So in summary... we are gambling guys!!!!! And Aniplex always wins.

    • @SuperJv77
      @SuperJv77 6 років тому +50

      The house always wins lol jp!

    • @rururu432
      @rururu432 6 років тому +3

      Wouldn't be the first time for them

    • @SuperJh2000
      @SuperJh2000 6 років тому +38

      of course they win we give them money or nothing and they will give us pixels for money or nothing

    • @Kenny0136
      @Kenny0136 6 років тому +11

      it isnt gambling, you are paying and getting rewards. you just arent getting the things you _want_ every time. gambling would be you putting in money and LITERALLY getting nothing back if you "lost"

    • @lopez.jacinto.6726
      @lopez.jacinto.6726 6 років тому +32

      Kektosterone Getting in a ten roll (with paid SQ) nine 3 star cards and one 4 star CE isn't bad?
      It's gambling because at the end the reward it's not guaranteed. Of course if you keep spending money you will get what you want eventually (or maybe not).

  • @hootels1770
    @hootels1770 6 років тому +822

    I just want my waifus man damn

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +88

      We all do, can't wait for those summer banners :)

    • @LilyBeta
      @LilyBeta 6 років тому +20

      ... So. Did you all get what you want?
      I'm still farming on Daily Quest and almost 'always' dying in Berserk Expert daily quest.. XD
      And... my Quarts are 87. I planned gonna roll when done in Septem main quest. (I'm newbie in Fate GO) XD

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 років тому +1

      Just wait for higher chance time for that charters. I got 3 phone and did it got 2 out of 3.

    • @TenmaGirl1990
      @TenmaGirl1990 5 років тому

      Don't we all?

  • @ShinigamiSamaH
    @ShinigamiSamaH 6 років тому +520

    After a grueling battle against the RNG, your wallet weeps, your phone battery is low, and you question your direction in life.
    But you made it, you got yourself the 5-stars roll. Nothing can stop you n-
    Then you remembered you still have to Level Ups, Ascensions, Upgrade Skills, Raise NPs, Max Bonds.....
    GLHF, and
    Welcome to Hell.

    • @octapusxft
      @octapusxft 5 років тому +41

      The need to get the same servant 5 times is extra evil

    • @godzefkiel2686
      @godzefkiel2686 3 роки тому +5

      @@octapusxft what the hell were they thinking

    • @FieryMeltman
      @FieryMeltman 2 роки тому +1

      @@godzefkiel2686 They were thinking of money, obviously

    • @eslamatef8442
      @eslamatef8442 Рік тому +1

      ​@@octapusxft
      6 now 😢😢

  • @ShotgunShogun
    @ShotgunShogun 6 років тому +639

    I mean .... I could be that hypothetical person ...

    • @kingdomheartsfan3002
      @kingdomheartsfan3002 6 років тому +7

      Shotgun Shogun your not fino senpai

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +65

      You can't fool me, I watched you pull Ozy and then pull another 10 anyway :)

    • @KeysG
      @KeysG 6 років тому +19

      Nah fam, we all know that ultra whale status belongs to either Ziss (for stuff he likes) or TouhouSniper For literally everyone.

    • @Takodachiii
      @Takodachiii 6 років тому +2

      Kylin Gao agreed

    • @ChaldeaGurus
      @ChaldeaGurus 6 років тому +3

      *Still has two black eyes from single pulls* ..... mmmmmmmmhmm ...

  • @adde6064
    @adde6064 5 років тому +156

    I'm fully aware that i have wasted my time on this crap since started playing it, but i can't stop. Is this what they call hell?

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  5 років тому +31

      Well hopefully you can't stop because it's fun.

    • @Arthurian_Rabbit
      @Arthurian_Rabbit 4 роки тому +4

      Just good old fashioned dopamine addiction, metink.

  • @corrodeyam9405
    @corrodeyam9405 6 років тому +249

    I love math! But I hate doing probability math, because it always disappoints. So much better to be blind as a butterfly and smile whenever something nice happens, never expecting it and never thinking twice about it after it happens. Tis the key to sanity in the gacha....

    • @Kapiletti
      @Kapiletti 6 років тому +11

      Corro Deyam i like the way you think.

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +47

      The old "ignorance is bliss" method of summoning :)

    • @LilyBeta
      @LilyBeta 6 років тому +2

      FGO Tips That is my methods in old days with Brave Frontier... XD

    • @chacha_zemisei
      @chacha_zemisei 6 років тому +2

      You are... a saint. Admirable.

    • @boxorak
      @boxorak 5 років тому +3

      That's why I prefer Azur Lane's Gacha over FGO. I have no idea who any of the characters are, and therefore I have no emotional attachment to tempt me to spend money to get my favorite waifu. Well, that, and Azur Lane's Gacha system isn't built for fucking whales.

  • @SamGarcia
    @SamGarcia 6 років тому +550

    I went to a Jewish community center on the first day of the banner to drop off my sister.
    I was aiming for Ozzy.
    I did one multi-roll in the parking lot.
    I got everyone on the banner (Tawara, Serenity, Lancelot, and Nitocris) + Arjuna, Darius (who I have been rolling for for ages in the FP gacha), and Hassan 100
    EXCEPT Ozzy
    I guess he's still salty over Moses.

    • @DBT1007
      @DBT1007 6 років тому +14

      because he hate jewish community center

    • @SamGarcia
      @SamGarcia 6 років тому +64

      You don't get the last part, do you? He's Moses' step brother, and Moses led the Jews out of Egypt through the salty Red Sea

    • @DBT1007
      @DBT1007 6 років тому +16

      According to science, the most identical person to the tyrannical pharaoh on the Moses tale is the Ramesses 2. And greek ppl call ramesses 2 as ozymandias.
      And ramesses 2 is the one who drowned in that tale.

    • @DBT1007
      @DBT1007 6 років тому

      Sam Garcia yeahh i didn't click the "Read more" button

    • @SamGarcia
      @SamGarcia 6 років тому +3

      In Fate Lore, he is Ramses II. Biblically and historically, leaning more Thutmose II or Neferhotep probably. The Bible only mentions that there were places in Egypt named after Ramses, so it doesn't say what the Pharaoh's name actually was.
      Neferhotep as Pharaoh over the Exodus is because of the facts that he had no son, and Egyptian records have this statement:
      Neferhotep I presided over Egypt during an era of profound chaos, described in the Ipuwer Papyrus: “Plague stalks through the land and blood is everywhere. . . . Nay, but the river is blood . . . gates, columns and walls are consumed with fire . . . the son of the high-born man is no longer to be recognized. . . . The stranger people from outside are come into Egypt. . . . Nay, but corn has perished everywhere.” Few monuments from the period survive.

  • @kiddervish2
    @kiddervish2 5 років тому +78

    I literally just finished watching your video, had no intent to roll until next year, and rolled with one ticket on a god damned whim, and got Tamamo no-Mae on Rate-Up.
    Thank you for making me want to roll when I realistically shouldn't have.
    I love you.

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  5 років тому +11

      Haha, congrats! I'm glad it worked out this time...

  • @RandyAlterReviews
    @RandyAlterReviews 6 років тому +399

    Everything is still up to Luck XD

    • @drakath794
      @drakath794 5 років тому

      I know that all to well. Twice I did three single rolls on two separate summon events. On the first event, I got three 3 star ce's. While on the second event, I got two 4 star servants, Lancer Vlad the III; and Heracles, and the events 5 star ce.

    • @Play-xk9yr
      @Play-xk9yr 5 років тому +9

      @@drakath794 I did four single rolls and got a 5 star ce on my first and a 5 star servant on my fourth, it's annoying how it's all about luck but it feels so good when you get lucky while summoning lol.

    • @blackblurable
      @blackblurable 5 років тому +8

      Play that feel good feeling is what gambling basically is.

  • @jason-5932
    @jason-5932 6 років тому +149

    Too complicated for my tiny brain

  • @Mesanyx
    @Mesanyx 6 років тому +194

    I remember pulling Cu Alter from a single roll in the third America banner.

    • @syruphi
      @syruphi 6 років тому +2

      Manu14 same

    • @emilyc4844
      @emilyc4844 6 років тому +10

      Obtained Raikou from one summon ticket, which is a miracle. It a sign my luck dropped back from some kind of high ranking luck to a E.

    • @apolloblaze5848
      @apolloblaze5848 6 років тому +2

      So um meaning to say that there is a possibility to get a 5 star servant in one summon??

    • @Takodachiii
      @Takodachiii 6 років тому

      Good shit

    • @Takodachiii
      @Takodachiii 6 років тому +3

      Apollo Blaze essentially he's saying yes

  • @randomguy2588
    @randomguy2588 6 років тому +51

    summoning tickets really saved me
    got a bunch of five stars just from them
    #summoningticketsforlife

  • @tomasmcgrath5766
    @tomasmcgrath5766 6 років тому +192

    I like to just aim for 4 stars in my rolls as 5 stars are too rare to reliably aim for.

    • @darkki94
      @darkki94 6 років тому +19

      Same here , but i failed on this banner , i really waned Nito and rolled for her - Got Lancelot and Ozy with the frist 60 SQ , but i did not get Nito and my damn roommate with 30 SQ and 5 tickets and 3 SQ got Lancelot NP4 and Nito NP2 and he wanned Ozy - desire sensors are real

    • @tomasmcgrath5766
      @tomasmcgrath5766 6 років тому +5

      Spineless Whining Bitch I used 60 saint quartz and all I ended up getting was a Np1 Lancelot. I guess I suffer from E rank luck.

    • @darkki94
      @darkki94 6 років тому +1

      Well getting a 4* servant with 60sq is good , on my previous account i have a streak of 300 SQ with out a 5 or a 4 star servant , then on the 11th multi i got stheno , this was the moment i rerolled a new account and it`s a lot better now .

    • @tomasmcgrath5766
      @tomasmcgrath5766 6 років тому +1

      I guess my luck isn't that bad after all.

    • @-.JT.-
      @-.JT.- 6 років тому

      I rolled 60 sq and 5 tickets and only got Liz np3 and a pirate loli. E-Rank luck

  • @arabbitwhocanuseinternet9657
    @arabbitwhocanuseinternet9657 5 років тому +48

    I wasted 331 quarts on the new shelock
    And do u think I get him
    NO
    Next time I'm gonna try your formula
    Thanks

  • @luisxaviercortesrodriguez8191
    @luisxaviercortesrodriguez8191 3 роки тому +4

    One thing I think it would better the rolling experience is changing the pity system. I believe that DW should give us one USO every time we get a 5-star servant, regardless of the number of NPs. That would mean that every 10 5-starts we would be able to aquire a servant for free. I think it would make rolling a little more bearable.
    What do you guys think?

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  3 роки тому +3

      The current pity system is basically a joke. It already takes some crazy whaling to get a 5★ Servant to NP 5, and then to get one of those same Servants 10 more times is madness. Anyone who can afford that can probably afford any Servant they want already, no need for the USOs. Something should definitely be changed.
      I always thought you should be able to burn any 5★ Servant for an USO, similar to how you can burn 4★ Servants for a Rare Prism. That would make them a little more attainable, and help you out if you keep rolling the wrong 5★ Servant.
      I like your idea though, because you collect them passively without giving anything up (other than your tickets and Saint Quartz). It would be a much more generous system.

    • @luisxaviercortesrodriguez8191
      @luisxaviercortesrodriguez8191 3 роки тому

      @@FGOTips Why isn´t anyone doing anything about it? If enough people organized, talked and asked for things to change, DW should do it?

  • @gshorter
    @gshorter 6 років тому +17

    This video and the others like it are well made and entertaining so thanks for your hard work.
    This banner has been great for me, I’ve pulled NP2 Lancelot a second Sanzou and Ozymandias. So now my priorities shift to the 2nd summer banner and Ruler Martha and after that I’m saving for a while!

    • @Kapiletti
      @Kapiletti 6 років тому

      gshorter awesome! How many quartz and summon tickets? I have 60 quartz and 6 tickets but im afraid to use them

    • @gshorter
      @gshorter 6 років тому +3

      Kapiletti I used 200 quartz I’d been saving for this banner along with 10 tickets. I still have 181 quartz and 16 tickets. I’ve been extremely lucky as of late and I’ve gotten the servants I’ve wanted for the most part. Now I’m just playing the waiting game while I save quartz and tickets for the Martha banner. After that I’m good till winter.

    • @Kapiletti
      @Kapiletti 6 років тому +1

      gshorter cool! Now you can rest from those past events and play smoother only to lvl up these new servants.
      Good luck with Martha when the time comes!
      See ya.

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +3

      Congrats! I'm saving for Martha also. I have no Ruler yet, and I have always had a thing for hand to hand fighters.

    • @ImMicku
      @ImMicku 6 років тому +1

      Saving for marta squad! 200+ and 40+ tickets and counting (I'm close to my login bonus as well, so that's a free 20 right there)

  • @maegamisama
    @maegamisama 6 років тому +74

    I always go for 10 rolls.
    Not saying that 10 rolls are better than singles, but one thing proponents of single rolls overlook is that often you do want other stuff in the gacha. Whether it be event CEs or just stuff you haven't obtained (other servants, K-scope, etc), I doubt anyone is in a position where all they need/want is just that one thing they're pulling for. Hell even the crap three star CE is useful in the sense that it gives you something to level up your better CEs

    • @theireckus9298
      @theireckus9298 6 років тому +12

      別兄さん Me too...I only go for singles when I have tickets. Based on my experience, most 5☆ servants I have come from Multi-rolls. So I stick to it as well.

    • @dinocha0s
      @dinocha0s 6 років тому +4

      yeah totally agree with ya there

    • @telracsazyl1243
      @telracsazyl1243 3 роки тому

      Idk, i'm always roll everytime my sq reach 30. No mater what banner is going on

  • @elizabethbathorytrue7138
    @elizabethbathorytrue7138 6 років тому +55

    Three days ago I used 47 tickets on the current banner, just to get one copy of Origin Bullet.
    My tickets number 10, 11, 12 and 44 were Tamamo Cat, Waver, Saber Lancelot and Orion.
    (I got my first two SSRs, yay!)
    Six ten pulls on JP didn't get me the Rate Up SR I wanted (Lancer Kiyo), but only one random gold (Penth, still good but w/e)
    Single pulls FOR LIFE.

    • @coranbaker6401
      @coranbaker6401 6 років тому +1

      WHAT!? I spent over 100 rolls with quartz and tickets and got Ozy, Helena, NP3 Lancelot, and NP2 Nitocris! Don't get me wrong. I'm happy with them and all, but...TWO SSR's!?

    • @Joey-pb6ul
      @Joey-pb6ul 6 років тому +3

      So, I used around 40ish saint quartz and 7ish tickets, so around 20 pulls. No kidding I ending up with 4 copies of origin bullet and none of the new servants.

    • @RetrogradeRecall
      @RetrogradeRecall 6 років тому +2

      Single pulls are pretty fuckin' rad, but I feel like that's more of an anecdotal thing really so I try not to do it unless im desperate. Might do this for Illya banner though

    • @an_eternalflame
      @an_eternalflame 6 років тому +1

      I did a single roll the day Camelot came out, I got a servant, you wanna know what now, she’s my waifu, I love my spammable farmer Nitocris, and I did a ticket on fate/Accel order zero and I got my boy Kiri, I loved his character in fate zero and I love my star generating non spectacular Kiritsugu Emiya

  • @Hyperdex74
    @Hyperdex74 5 років тому +1

    Your analysis and comparisons are "Solid"! And my experience on this game adds credibility to the "single-pull" strategy. I collected 120 quarts and used 10 summons. I got "nothing useful!". I tried "single pulls" using only 56 quartz in total (pulling every time I earned 3 quartz) and I got:
    5 star Altruia Pendragon (Saber)
    4 star Emiya (Assassin)
    4 star Fionn (Lancer)
    4 star Altruia Pendragon - Alter (Lancer)
    and several very useful 4 and 5 star CE's (including Ideal Holy King and the Black Grail)
    Glad I watched your video when I was starting the Game! Thanks!

  • @coranbaker6401
    @coranbaker6401 6 років тому +32

    I mean, say what you want, but I rolled 37 tickets and got nothing but a 500 year Obsession and some covering fires. Rolled my first multi-roll and instantly got a Lancelot. I'm sticking with the multi's. They're the ones who gave me Ozy too.

    • @kohjunkai3446
      @kohjunkai3446 5 років тому +3

      You are saying as if this video is inaccurate... anyways everyone is inaccurate since the percentage don't determine which method is better so maybe for you, u were just lucky? It's 1% so yeah

    • @Suksass
      @Suksass 5 років тому +12

      Rolled around 8 multirolls, nothing. Rolled singles on my last 9 quartz, and got Arthoria lancer 5star on 2nd roll. Everyone have their stories

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 років тому

      Just wait for high chance time.

    • @irui7087
      @irui7087 4 роки тому

      And I’ve done 8 multi pulls and got nothing

    • @nathanielandre2568
      @nathanielandre2568 4 роки тому

      Yo I pulled two 10-pulls and burned 10 summon tickets and got 5 Romulus, 3 Hoenheim, Billy, and a bunch of junk. On the HASSAN RATE UP. I JUST WANT MY GRAMPS MAN.

  • @KidMangaX
    @KidMangaX 6 років тому +12

    I did 5 multi-rolls on the current banner.
    I got 6 copies of Origin Bullet, 1 Martha (spooky!) and 3 copies of Saber Lancelot.
    Hope that helps your data!

  • @tamiamurray5317
    @tamiamurray5317 5 років тому +15

    Most of my single rolls/ summon tickets gave me my 5 stars

  • @Spike85x
    @Spike85x 5 років тому +22

    what if you pull 1 summon for each day, without spending the whole sq on the same day,
    that way you can earn more sq every time you log in+ a summon ticket. :)

  • @Shon00
    @Shon00 6 років тому +1

    I really want to thank you personally because you said "if you really want a servant, keep rolling, even if you have like 3 quarts roll for them, and that's what I did, and now I have a Level 100 ozymandias! Really thank you so much!

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +1

      That's awesome, congratulations! I missed Ozy myself, still using Kintoki Rider for a single target NP.

    • @Shon00
      @Shon00 5 років тому +1

      @@FGOTips I only have two 5 stars with me and both are riders! Oh god the horror, but ozy is my go to guy, I'm starting to feel like I specialize in riders and archers! Hahaha

  • @pablogarcia4911
    @pablogarcia4911 3 роки тому +4

    Sorry the only thing I understand is WASTE YOUR QUARTZ AS SOON AS YOU HAVE THEM!!

  • @shirleyholmes6680
    @shirleyholmes6680 6 років тому +3

    I believe getting the best results comes with time, not luck. I got Jeanne on first try with 3 quartz, Atalante with 1 summon ticket, and Mordred with 2. I got Bride Nero with 1 summon ticket the next day.
    My strategy is to role around 11:30pm to 12:00pm.
    My best time to use is 11:50pm to 12:00pm ( This is where I got the four servants.)
    Oh and when Scáthach's banner came. I got her with 3 quartz at exactly 11:57 pm

    • @LilyBeta
      @LilyBeta 6 років тому

      Miyu Hisone What timeline in your place? XD

  • @SampeText
    @SampeText 6 років тому +61

    ok i got the point, multi = when there is event going on and you need those CE to farm since the odds of getting *4 ce is high
    single = when you specifically aiming for a servant or CE

    • @BrunoMaskulado03
      @BrunoMaskulado03 6 років тому +11

      even if your aiming for specific servant or ce.. i think 10roll is still better since you got 1 4-5* ce and 3-5* servant thats been guaranteed.. unless you lack sq or you only have tix, go for singles

    • @SampeText
      @SampeText 6 років тому +4

      right

  • @erghianranggataa6457
    @erghianranggataa6457 4 роки тому +4

    Luck is just an illusion
    Rate up is a lie
    Desire sensor is real

  • @Shidouuu
    @Shidouuu 6 років тому +13

    For 5 star servant I got Zhuge Liang, Altera and Mordred on single pulls and I'm happy for it! 🤣

  • @barobaritoful16
    @barobaritoful16 6 років тому +1

    I did yolos with 27 SQ in the summer event and I left Helena and Rama, well video by the way very well explained

  • @istthehappybara5525
    @istthehappybara5525 6 років тому +6

    Well, the 10 roll have a much lower chance of pulling the 3* CE which is good enough for me, you know normally it's not what you're aiming for

  • @arthuryupendragon9725
    @arthuryupendragon9725 4 роки тому

    So true, by the way thanks for the video! It really will help the next year trying to get Bunny Artoria. With tickets and solos I got Artoria Saber, Artoria Alter, Lancer Artoria Alter, Fran, Ishtar, Waver and Tamamo Caster. Everything is possible, hope will never die

  • @mesagi3994
    @mesagi3994 5 років тому +6

    Honestly, I got Emiya Alter, Elisabeth Bathory, Nitocris, Waver, and Penth out of single rolls.
    Taking your advice was the best thing ever.

  • @ZaneTheDragonMaster
    @ZaneTheDragonMaster 6 років тому +3

    I normally just single roll now a days. F2p for a while, but I've noticed singles aren't all that bad. I've gotten a lot of things I was looking for on them. Just recently I got Nito, Saberlot, and another 4* within maybe 13 single pulls. Also during JAlter I used 470 Saint Quartz doing only multis and didn't get her. The moment I did a single though I got her. Hell Shuten came on a Yolo single. XD I'm trusting singles from now on until I can get back into being a dolphin. =3

  • @mateimacoveiciuc4100
    @mateimacoveiciuc4100 6 років тому +6

    "get a 5* servant using as little sq as possible" *cries in E rank luck"

  • @jinenjuce
    @jinenjuce 6 років тому +9

    Listen I know what you're trying to get at, but have you tried making summoning circles and wiggling before rolls tho?

  • @Sunnymustache
    @Sunnymustache 4 роки тому +5

    14 SINGLE Roll and now i have my Conde de Monte cristo (avenger)

  • @eepyVolkan
    @eepyVolkan 3 роки тому +1

    Roses are Red
    Violet is Blue
    Your Wallet is crying
    And so are you.

  • @arcaneghost2459
    @arcaneghost2459 6 років тому +4

    And then there's me looking to NP5 Ishy when she comes out in December

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +1

      Good luck, hope you're saving up!

  • @nottomiokagiyu9830
    @nottomiokagiyu9830 6 років тому +1

    That explains why I've gotten more SR and SSR servants within few single rolls. 2 SSRs from singles and 1 from a multi. I think the choice is clear.

  • @laxinous2334
    @laxinous2334 6 років тому +10

    I remember getting shishou my first roll after being inactive for a month

    • @LilyBeta
      @LilyBeta 6 років тому +1

      Alexis Magallon That may mean something... XD

  • @yamero9545
    @yamero9545 4 роки тому +4

    So that’s why Fate Grand Order is Called “Fate Grind Order”?

  • @huyen-chaule3550
    @huyen-chaule3550 5 років тому +10

    I am not surprised. I'd tried multi-rolls and gotten terrible results. However, all the SR and SSR I got so far are from tickets and single rolls.

  • @johnnywu8708
    @johnnywu8708 6 років тому +8

    I do multis anyway for the better odds for gold cards. Singles for servants I sort of want, with the occasional multi, but for servants I really want, I'll go all out. That's my personal approach to roll. However, if you want to try and incorporate singles into the strategy, then doing singles on a banner such as the Scathach banner would be good. No rate up CEs means that the multi advantage for gold cards overall don't apply, and Scathach is a popular character, so chances are likely you'll blow as many SQ as it takes, giving you a decent chance at getting her, and as such, justifying the few extra SQ that you'll save at the end without having the regret of possibly missing out on CEs you could've gotten as guarantees from the multi.

    • @Medbread
      @Medbread 6 років тому +1

      Johnny Wu I think the point of the video is that doing a multi roll doesn’t help in getting 4 star and 5 star servants at all

    • @johnnywu8708
      @johnnywu8708 6 років тому

      ??? If you take a look at his previous video, he mentions that multi rolls give you better odds for a gold card overall, whereas singles give you better odds for gold CEs of a certain rarity (though I forgot which rarity it was, either 4* or 5* CE). I think it was the latter.

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +2

      Based on the data we've measured...
      Singles give you a better chance for 5★ CEs (by a little). Multirolls give you a better chance for 4★ CEs (by more). You'll get more gold CEs overall from Multis.
      Gold Servants are exactly the same in either case.

    • @johnnywu8708
      @johnnywu8708 6 років тому

      FGO Tips In that case, it's probably a good idea to stop multis when you're being spammed with a lot of 4* CEs.

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +1

      Yup, I usually save my quartz for events that have new limited time CEs so I can benefit from the multis.

  • @nojan9305
    @nojan9305 3 роки тому +3

    I watched this video and my pal said it was unlikely to pool your 5 star with the first single. So I had 2 quartz and converted my fragments, threw a single and got gilgamesh 🥳

  • @wijanto63
    @wijanto63 6 років тому +5

    Got all my 5 stars from single rolls. I just started like 4 months ago and already got dantes, jalter, nightingale and np2 raikou

  • @SenseiMasterShikikan-sama
    @SenseiMasterShikikan-sama 5 років тому +4

    I used this formula and got 3 Summer Banner SSR out of 4 (Tamamo, Nero and Salty Maid) , I still don't know if I got an asspull A++ Luck or just because of this formula.

  • @CoastGaurdCommandant
    @CoastGaurdCommandant 4 роки тому +1

    Since this video I have been single rolling. And anecdotally, I have gotten every single card I wanted except for Quetz. And I’ve gotten more 4⭐️ ‘s than I usually do.

  • @Yamazakura00
    @Yamazakura00 5 років тому +5

    this video is now making think a lot now. should i save up 30 quarts or should i just single summon now.
    Editted: ok so i did a single and jsut got a 5 star lancer karna :D

  • @micienz
    @micienz 5 років тому +2

    im looking tips & trick gacha for fgo and ended up in here calculating my odds xD

  • @RaGiAn87
    @RaGiAn87 3 роки тому +2

    Damn Camelot banner must have been so good. Ozymandias best rider, Nitocris great farmer and Saberlot solid even before the Skadi system. Too bad I started playing this year lmao.

  • @AngelicCrimsonDragon
    @AngelicCrimsonDragon 5 років тому +1

    I couldn’t count on ten rolls for a while but I didn’t sleep on tickets after I got jalter in three tickets, and Quetzalcoatl on YOLO ticket. For six months I got nothing on my ten rolls. However my luck seems to have shifted a bit since I did one ten roll on two separate banners and hit the servants I wanted in one try. Either way I boil it down to what a wise man once said. “Never tell me the odds”

  • @Arisutocrat
    @Arisutocrat 5 років тому +5

    I got Karna and Moriarty both from solo yolos so honestly single rolls have worked better for me so far

  • @webster9359
    @webster9359 5 років тому +1

    I am just getting into this so, multi's are probably my best friend right now. I am only lvl 24 and steadily working my way through orleans at the moment. rolling on the merlin banner even if though I haven't hit merlin yet and really want him. I wont say no to all the good CE's and other good servants i am still pulling. I pulled both nitocris and nursery rhyme in the same multi roll.

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  5 років тому

      Grats on Nitocris and Nursery Rhyme! Offensive casters aren't super common, so they come in handy.

  • @Wasabiithechoirgeek
    @Wasabiithechoirgeek 5 років тому +2

    Listened to this vid, and yolod a single pull and got a kscope, my superstitious Fate brain will now always pull singles

  • @Kotaichi
    @Kotaichi 4 роки тому +2

    Fun Fact: Ozymandias have the same va as Dio from Jojos. Gray's Add has the same va as Jotaro from Jojos

  • @duckyponds8769
    @duckyponds8769 4 роки тому

    You made this video and i started doing single pulls and i got a 5 star on my literal 4th single pull. Not only that, but it was a good one lmao.

  • @geminihero
    @geminihero 2 роки тому +1

    Despite what you said I feel like all the single rolls I try always give me nothing but spell cards.
    And I have been doing the single rolls for a few days now. But it just feels like I have a chance to draw better servants from the multidrop then, I do from the single….so even if your numbers say otherwise. That being said, I still will take what you’re saying in consideration.

  • @birddog7738
    @birddog7738 3 роки тому +1

    Let me explain this in a way that other people might find for simpler. If A squared plus B squared is C squared and C squared is the card we want. We can determine that A is not the card we want and B is a 3 star proto cu chulainn therefore C has a possibility of being the card we want
    My head is the size of mars don't question my math analytics

  • @CatroiOz
    @CatroiOz 6 років тому +34

    "whales like that" do exist, I spent 1500 quartz to get saber alter

    • @randomdecoder6185
      @randomdecoder6185 4 роки тому +3

      Umm what 🗿

    • @sadge1234
      @sadge1234 4 роки тому

      @@randomdecoder6185 everything for your waifu

    • @MrFloof-uy1qs
      @MrFloof-uy1qs 4 роки тому +15

      Dedication 100
      Wallet 000

    • @leafyrak
      @leafyrak 4 роки тому

      CatroiOz saber alter is a single saber i've got in this game

    • @My_Arse
      @My_Arse 3 роки тому +1

      I'm... having a hard time choosing between Gothic Saber and Basaka...

  • @mr.renegade4004
    @mr.renegade4004 3 роки тому +1

    He didnt consider the coin landing on its side.. That slightly changes the odds.

  • @enviousgaming3250
    @enviousgaming3250 6 років тому +8

    i dont like how the 5 stars are 1 percent drop rate at all
    i spent a lot of money to get nothing a few times
    but there was one time i yolod artoria saber
    i hada sumon ticket and decided to do the story sumon in the middle of the day and i pulled artoria saber
    i was honestly surprised as hell when i pulled her
    it gave me the electrified card
    it started out silver but became gold
    i assumed i puled gilles at first
    but i was so excited when it turned golden

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +3

      Those are the best, congrats on that pull. Sorry the other ones haven't been working out. It's true, the gacha system is cruel sometimes.

    • @enviousgaming3250
      @enviousgaming3250 6 років тому

      thanks
      i agree they are the best because they surprise you and get your hopes up
      during nero fest i spent 200 dollars and got nothing
      my friend the other day has 5 alteras and did the garunteed banner and got a 6th altera
      he was so excited when he saw the gold saber but got disappointed because he still has yet to get altria pendragon saber and the altria lancers
      i still want them too

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +1

      Yikes, 6 Altera? At least that's one unregistered spirit origin. 9 more of those can turn into Altria.

    • @enviousgaming3250
      @enviousgaming3250 6 років тому

      haha exactly.
      now he just needs two more jack and nursery rhymes and he has two more
      after that though he and i both still have a long way to go
      i dont have a single unregistered spirit origin
      i just wish that requirement was a little less than 10
      maybe 8 or 5

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +1

      10 is crazy. You'd have to be a rediculous level of whale to actually take advantage of that.

  • @Katcxze
    @Katcxze 5 років тому +3

    I probably got lucky. One multi-roll gave me Quetzalcoatl, Gorgon and some 4 star CE.
    But I will never forget when I used one summon ticket and got Drake.

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  5 років тому

      Grats! My favorite are the single tickets. Drake spooked me on Iskandar's banner, but later that week he showed up on my monthly Da Vinci shop ticket.

  • @jkterjters
    @jkterjters 3 роки тому +2

    Legends say if you’re good at math RNGesus will bless you with your waifu during a random multi-roll

  • @seanpaul4896
    @seanpaul4896 6 років тому +2

    Received Ozzy and Arjuna back to back in a story multi roll.

  • @theireckus9298
    @theireckus9298 6 років тому +1

    I only do ×10 Summon when using Quartz. I'd rather be sure I get at least 1 gold card. Though hearing the theory behind single pulls is enlightening.

  • @nathancoffey7676
    @nathancoffey7676 6 років тому +3

    Currently at 46 tickets and 281 SQ ready for summer. I’m hoping that I’ll have around 60 tickets and 350 SQ, and that the tickets will be enough to summon Archuria.

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +1

      Good luck! Lots of nice Servants in the summer banners.

  • @ice-coldgansta807
    @ice-coldgansta807 5 років тому +3

    He's right..I got Musashi on my 3rd single roll

  • @RedRocket4000
    @RedRocket4000 6 років тому +2

    As I always want to improve my CE holdings along with my 5* I always multi for the small but significant bonus. I have been very lucky on my multi's but have never pulled a 5* on a ticket. But does my multi vs ticket luck convince me single rolls are quite poor compared to multi no it does not as I know personal experience a horrible way to determine what works best.
    Thanks for this, so many peoples ideas on luck are still in the believe​ in magic stage.

  • @zretralboletarias2808
    @zretralboletarias2808 5 років тому +3

    I’ve pulled more gold servants from tickets than even a single quart roll. It’s ridiculous.

  • @shadecross451
    @shadecross451 6 років тому +3

    Makes sense but iam still gonna stick to my multi rolls.

  • @waddayaknoww1223
    @waddayaknoww1223 3 роки тому +2

    This is probable since most of the 4 and 5 stars I got were mostly from the single pulls.

  • @dragonsmash3r
    @dragonsmash3r 6 років тому +1

    I say if you want multiple servants from the banner, go for multi and hope for the best. When you want to get one or got the other(s) from the multi, go for single till you get em.
    Not me though, I'm just a devil-don't-care single summoner whenever I get the quartz. Got 3 4*s just from this current EN banner.
    ... F*cking Sieg.
    Can't actually complain at all though, got Pharaoh Failure and Chainsaw Sword as I went through Camelot. Good stuff.

  • @Leo-td4tj
    @Leo-td4tj 3 роки тому

    : did you do it? did you get your waifu?
    : yes
    : at what cost?
    : my tuition fees, 30 gallons of saltiness and despair

  • @TallGirlEnjoyer
    @TallGirlEnjoyer 6 років тому +1

    The Gods of Gatcha are still as mysterious as always

    • @salfarizikamil9740
      @salfarizikamil9740 6 років тому +1

      Nicolás Ferrando there are no gods mate, its all just fucking numbers

  • @declinbrown8009
    @declinbrown8009 2 роки тому +1

    Oh thats why I got melttrlys and king protea in one pulls and dioscuri

  • @yuolong451
    @yuolong451 5 років тому +2

    if I can land a 10% crit all the time and sometimes fail a 90%, then SURELY I must be able to pull a 5 Star Servant. I mean, I did it with Jalter.
    Endless 3 Star CEs and only 3, 3 Star Servants.

  • @Figamorf
    @Figamorf 5 років тому +2

    I got Jalter in 12 single rolls, maybe is just that you are destined to have that servant. Or just luck

  • @idunnoaskmydog3412
    @idunnoaskmydog3412 3 роки тому +1

    thx for the analysis very detal and i'll keep that in mind, but my favorite method is... "don't expect anything" so when a 3 star servant pop up i'm not disappointed but when a 4/5 star servant show up i'll start doing bridge position and scream on top of my lungs.....
    .
    *or * u can be like my friend that praying to every God from every religion that legalized on country.... (on my country there's 5)

  • @MrSilverKatana
    @MrSilverKatana 6 років тому +1

    Just one thing though, does this take into consideration that the guaranteed 4* or higher removes all the 3* possibilities and the 3* or higher guaranteed servant removes all ce's for their respective rolls? that has to put rolling a 5* servant for those two rolls at a higher percentage right?

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому

      I did consider that, but unfortunately we're almost positive that it does not boost the chances of rolling a 5★ at all. It only boosts your chances of rolling 3★ Servants and 4★ CEs. If you're interested in the data that supports this, check out my last video which explains it: ua-cam.com/video/D3Fec5PwZfg/v-deo.html

    • @MrSilverKatana
      @MrSilverKatana 6 років тому

      Oh wow, that makes single rolls even more worth it then cause that's pretty much wasting 2 rolls on something other than the 5* you want

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому

      Although you will see more 4★ CEs, more 3★ Servants, and less 3★ CEs in the multirolls. That's the trade off though.

  • @altiv3al492
    @altiv3al492 6 років тому +4

    After watching this vid I had gone Rolling (Story) Gacha with single Roll and got myself 2 4stars Servants with 15 SQ.
    I feel lucky yet quiet dissapointed when ‘you saw a Rainbow on the light and get Gold Card (Servant) yet you got 4 star one’.
    I thought I just got Lord El-Melloi or someone but
    -I-T-W-A-S-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-G-
    -N-I-T-O-R-I-S-
    I think I’ll just Lvl her up, give her khadeliascope?? Then team her up with Mama Raikou and Lord El-Melloi for get just 3 Turns all DailyQuest farmings cuz she really good on Farming mobs.
    - DailyQuest Farming Recipe -
    •1 turn•
    -Spam Lord El-Melloi skills -> 1st skill (Nitoris) -> NP
    •2 turn•
    -2nd skill(Nitoris) -> NP
    •3 turn•
    -NP (Raikou)
    DONE!!
    [I got Carmillia and Nitoris btw]
    Anyway thx for give some courage to Yolo on Gacha with single per pull..

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому

      Grats, the dailies still take me 4-5 turns most if the time. I need to optimize my team.

  • @rururu432
    @rururu432 6 років тому

    Took the single roll gamble, got scathach during the 6M DL banner. Pretty gud if I do say so myself. But you were right about the garbage on the way as 12 quartz went to 4 lu bu's.

  • @jasondarkflame4948
    @jasondarkflame4948 6 років тому +1

    Holy shit. After I watched this video I pulled Archer Arthur.

  • @IcePrincessZeroK
    @IcePrincessZeroK 6 років тому +1

    Actually. The probability of pulling the 5 star servant is still 1% every 1 roll. So while it is true that the win on the 2nd roll is lower than win on the first. But thats assuming starting at the beginning. After losing on the first roll the 2nd roll is the new first roll. But in the 1 10 roll with a 5 star vs 10 1 rolls with 1 five star. The 1 rolls would save quartz potentially.

    • @IcePrincessZeroK
      @IcePrincessZeroK 6 років тому

      Nevermind. You clarified later.

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому

      Yeah, sorry if I didn't clarify as well as I should have in the beginning. But the point was to demonstrate the odds of getting your _first_ 5★ Servant, not just a 5★ Servant.

  • @vynnn4209
    @vynnn4209 3 роки тому +1

    So is there a pity system where your 10th pull is a 4*star or something?

  • @randomstuff-qu7sh
    @randomstuff-qu7sh 4 роки тому

    Usually, when deciding between single or multi rolls, the main factor I look at is if the 4* CEs in the banner are worth going for. Either way, I'll be gambling, so really, my main objective is to choose the gamble that gives me the best chance of a good outcome.

  • @ImMicku
    @ImMicku 6 років тому +21

    0:50 ayyyyyy i made it into the video

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +3

      Yup, and it only took me a whole month to get it done haha. Seriously though, thanks for the comments. Awesome ideas from the community lead to more interesting discussions.

    • @ImMicku
      @ImMicku 5 років тому

      @@FGOTips is something funky happening with YT? i had to resub today and i can pretty much swear i was subbed already

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  5 років тому

      I don't think they're supposed to be removing subscribers, unless the account is considered to be fake or a bot, but I've heard weird stuff like this a couple of times. I guess you never know for sure what they might be up to. Thanks for making it back!

    • @ImMicku
      @ImMicku 5 років тому

      its weird bc the summer rerun guide was suggested on my featured videos, watched it>re-watched a bunch of other older videos and noticed my sub wasnt there

  • @almightykurama2637
    @almightykurama2637 6 років тому +2

    @FGO Tips , I was planning on trying to get LAtoria to NP5 once her banner is released are you interested in more data for summoning or are you good with the data you've currently collected and have access to?

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому

      More data is great, if you want to record and upload the video. You can share privately if you want.

  • @bobbob-iz4ih
    @bobbob-iz4ih 6 років тому +6

    Are you serious 10 singles and on the last one ozy

  • @anakichi
    @anakichi 6 років тому +2

    (Has a ton of 5 stars )
    Me : *looks at all my five stars* *_I STILL WANT MY RULER JEANNE YOU LITTLE_*

  • @archon6271
    @archon6271 6 років тому +2

    So I have an estimated minimum of 689 Quartz and 40 Tickets to roll for Gilgamesh this New Years Banner, odds of failure?

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +1

      269 pulls means a 6.7% chance of getting zero 5☆ Servants.
      I don't know for sure what the odds of Gil will be specifically, but I think the solo banners usually have 0.6% chance if I'm remembering correctly. That means a 19.8% chance of zero Gils :(
      Hopefully I'm remembering wrong and it's actually higher than 0.6% :)

    • @archon6271
      @archon6271 6 років тому

      A 20% chance of failure, huh? That’s really good to know, thanks for doing the math!

  • @cantputashrugasausernameso5105
    @cantputashrugasausernameso5105 5 років тому +1

    Can everyone remind me of watching this video when I roll for the Summer banner? Seems like it's a catalizer for everyone.

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  5 років тому +1

      What you don't see are all of the bad rolls that don't bother to post their results :(
      Good luck though!

    • @cantputashrugasausernameso5105
      @cantputashrugasausernameso5105 5 років тому

      @@FGOTips Thanks! I'll be sure to post my results though.

  • @S1eepingBearu
    @S1eepingBearu 5 років тому +1

    I’m so glad I’ve watch this

  • @teitoku7110
    @teitoku7110 5 років тому +2

    I remember rolling 1 roll everytime didn't get anything other than CE and 3 star servants after I get Ishtar in 10 roll.

  • @ravenralph123
    @ravenralph123 4 роки тому

    I got Nero Bride, Merltrylis, Tamamo Caster and Waver on single rolls.
    Now that I think about it I always have 4 star servant on each roll. I'm free to play buy have 10SSR and 14SR with Rider Ishtar and Brave Liz as Welfare Servants. What I lack are Craft Essences.

  • @Scofaa
    @Scofaa 5 років тому +1

    URAAAAAAA!!! IN THE END WE WILL ALL STILL WASTE OUR QUARTZ AND FALL INTO DESPAIR

  • @dinocha0s
    @dinocha0s 6 років тому +3

    hmm wonder if i can save all my SQ till Musashi/king hassan but i will try this out...10 rolls is kinda a all or nothing kinda game, and we all know we dont always get lucky

    • @FGOTips
      @FGOTips  6 років тому +2

      For sure, I would save them for the banner you really care about. Probably the second summer banner for me at this point...

  • @pedroalexandre7915
    @pedroalexandre7915 6 років тому +3

    If I got Ozymandias on my third single roll and Lancelot (saber) on my 8th, how lucky am I?

  • @switch8428
    @switch8428 6 років тому +2

    I've been doing single rolls since last year.. I already got 9 SSR up until now and a few SR's and I'm a free to play player.

  • @grawuka6900
    @grawuka6900 5 років тому

    Nice work, just a computing mistake at 4'56, you used the value of SUM(1-10) from the 1% case on the 0.7% case. The expected SQ saved actually becomes closer to 13.5 SQ (as if the SSR was randomely placed in the 10 pull) as the odds become smaller. The true value for 0.7% is 13.67 SQ saved, and for let's say 0.1%, it would be 13.52 SQ saved.