OSCO industries in Ohio makes the 13 - 44 lb powder coat bells, Cadillac Casting in Michigan makes the 53 - 88 lb powder coat bells, as well as the entire e-coat line. Machining is done by Cadillac Casting (Michigan) and MAKO (Ohio). The coating is done by Greenfield Products (Ohio) and CRM, inc. (Michigan).
I’ve got two of the E coats 16/20kg and must say they are Fantastic! Grip is definitely better with some chalk On them.took two weeks to get to Ireland which wasn’t bad.Nice review man👍🏼
I purchased a set of the USA powder coat kettlebells from Rogue. I have the 8kg - 32kg. In the powder coat version, the 20kg and below are made in Ohio, out of class 30 grey iron, meanwhile the 24kg and up are made in Michigan, and out of ductile iron. Personally I feel like the ductile iron a lot better. They feel smoother to me and have larger handle windows, although that may just be due to size. Makes we wish I would’ve gotten the e-coat version. Supposedly e-coat is a lot more durable than powder coating as well, but I’ve heard people complain that it’s too slippery. I live in Columbus as well, and it sucks that they won’t let you come to the store to see them first. Not to mention I have to pay for shipping, when it’s 10 minutes down the road. Grr... I still would like to get the 36 and 40 to complete my set. Or I could start my competition kb collection from kettlebell USA.
I have both powder and e coat 44lbs and the ecoat bell is Significantly fatter. So much so my hand placements were different. E coat is a lot less comfortable. When performing a floor chest press the ecoat dug into my forearm and had to hold it differently then the powder coat. Had no issues with the powdered coat.
I have only used competition kettlebells and I only just ordered a 24 kg cast iron from Rogue. Bit more expensive here in Australia so didn’t get the E Coat. I’ll have to wait and see what it’s like when it arrives.
I have two Rogue cast iron powder coat kb: 12 & 32kg, both manufactured in China (bought before US started manufacturing) and they have excellent quality! I also have two 24kg KettlebellKings with same quality as Rogue. Thanks for reviews! I think of buying two 16kg from Rogue and was hesitant which one to choose - US or China and you made me a big favor by reviewing these!
Hi Joe, I am new to kettlebells and I got two 44 Lbs Rogue and I saw the same issue. I saw the same thing, also the bottom of one of them is wider than the other. I am glad you are reviewing this brand.
My two cents, for whatever it’s worth. I’m relatively new to training with kettlebells (8 months) and I’m happy with my 16 kg Rogue e-coat. I bought it to double my first 16 kg which is a powder coat TRX kettlebell, and I have no complaints. It is indeed a bit of a more texture finish than the powder coat, I’m not sure it’s entirely appropriate to call it “rough”. I don’t think I’ve detected any prominent ridges. Maybe it’s a quality control issue or due to the variation of which state it’s made in?
I think QC Is a big factor and right now with kettlebells being so incredibly popular people are upset that they're taking so long to get to them that quality control might be a little bit laxx
It would have been nice to see if the weight was accurate and the same on each Rogue kettlebell since you mentioned clearly the apparent difference in size.
Thanks for the review,Joe. I had purchaced their 24k powdercoat yesterday. I was curiose about the e coat but i know i like powdercoat. That difference does though makes me question too. Wow
I have one of each, different weights but I'm not a fan of the e-coating, I also find the seam on my e-coated one is bothersome when doing higher reps.
@@kettlebellmusclegain Electrophoretic Painting was original introduced as an anti-corrosion coating for cars. Rogue uses it on some of their barbells as well. It is between the oxide coatings and cerakote in terms of durability. It still scratches of course. To check them out I bought two 16KG e-coat bells, and I am happy to say there is no seam. I had heard that the e-coat rogue bells were being shipped with a seam, which is a real shame I think. They should up their quality control out of that factory.
They look amazing overall, but for some reason that visible seam looks a bit off to me. :( I reached out to Rogue and this is by design as per their customer service.
Nearly similar but this is why I like to use all types and sizes of handles. As that's what will give you the most overall grip strength . All thicknesses.
Not that I want to push you to buy a bunch of bells, but there is also Rep Fitness that is similarily priced, or even a bit cheaper than Rogue. So far I like most of the Rep Fitness bells I have, except for the 16KG, maybe which have a smaller diameter handle for some reason. The 20,24 and 28 all are much more consistent.
I have the same edge on my 32k powder coat, pre-pandemic so probably Chinese. I'm assuming the difference in size from different manufacturers is from a lack of mold uniformity, which is hard to make sense of. Also it may just be my eyes but is there more weight in the handle of the shorter bell? Looks slightly fatter from here..
Although if you are using a single kettlebell competition bells might have a better handle they have 33 or 35 mm handles versus the larger ones of the cast irons
@@kettlebellmusclegain I want to buy two kettlebells. I want to start practicing with both hands. I have adjustable Ironmaster kettlebell..first I want to buy two 16kg kettlebells and two 20kg kettlebells
I was very disappointed by my E-coats. The casting quality was very poor. Very chunky and not smooth. Huge seams on the handle. Rogue replaced one for me and the new bell was worse than the first one. Not to mention very small windows. Try cleaning one of those and it'll destroy your wrist. Sold them all and got Paradigms. I did get a used USA powder coat and it seemed to be a higher quality casting, it's from a different foundry.
I just got 2 e-coat bells (a 24kg and a 28kg) and my biggest complaint is the window size compared to the bells I have from Onnit. I love doing cleans and unless your technique is flawless (which mine isn't) your wrists are gonna get punished.
@@theSinisterBend I'm new to kb. Eventually want to learn cleans. Are you saying the onnit KBs are easier to clean and do other 2 handed movements because they have bigger windows?
@@john-mf6jo The onnit bells I have are a few years old and their design has changed. Not sure if the window is still the same. The rogue bell is only .5 inches shorter on the width and about .25 shorter on the height.
I recently got some kbks and the quality went way down,, they look like these rogue ones,, i have the older powder coated ones and those were sooooo much smoother and no issues no nicks or burs or seams,, no more bells for me since the change
@@kettlebellmusclegain KBK just buys bells that are available in China and puts their name on them. If you go on Alibaba you can find the bells they buy. Both the standard comp bell, the cone horn bell and the adjustable comp bells. If you order over XXXXkgs of bells from these companies they will cast your logo into them for you.
Well the thing about shipping weight is the more weight you ship the more expensive it's going to be in transit until you get to a certain point of freight
I think theyre directly based off old VF beveldd bells. The handle seems too thin and the. Window looks like a circle to me. But I havent used one so I cant speak from personal experiemce. Guess ill have to get one.
@@kettlebellmusclegain If you do can you post a review? I'm on the fence about getting them since they're the only comp bell I can find that's reliably in stock.
I guess it depends road rogues shipping charges aren't built in as some catalog companies are that look much more expensive everyone in the end is shipping certain amount of weight that depends on freight carriers You can't get away from that I live about 2 hours away from Rogue and have driven there to pick up some very heavy equipment such as squat stands and things before but I understand that not many people are in that in that same space
The original powder coated Rogue Kettlebells (the ones with colored bands) are better quality, fit and finish, than these offerings. No casting or mold seams/marks, texture is a good balance between grip and non gonna tear my hands up, and the colored bands are easy to identify the weights. That's my opinion, ymmv.
True but what i do with kettlebells, and most others as well, having them on the ground is the least important aspect. unless theyre doing "KENTUCKY BURPEES" !!!
Yeah i might soon if i keep getting replacements. 16kg bellls are what I recommend more than anything across the board for people. A male with 2x16kg. Kb can get a wonderful longevity based training stimulus.
@@kettlebellmusclegain through your videos i have learned this. I own 1 ..20kg and have access to another but to do some things with 2 20kg is often too big a jump for me. Suggestions?
@@kettlebellmusclegain They sure are. They are of nice quality though. Sadly, it seems that where i live i don't have access to the powder coated version of the Rouge's.
I think they are so different because they are not the same type of steel so they have to machine more off of one because it is heavier iron... Actually I think one is iron and one is steel... IMHO... ✌️
Not cleaning up the casting seams, that’s pretty shady. Did you return them? Refurbish them yourself? 100k swings, you don’t want those seams on the handles eating up your hands.
@@kettlebellmusclegain i forgot where to read that the kettlebell which the center of gravity far from hand and the mass of the iron ball smaller is more difficult to use in ballistic patterns
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OSCO industries in Ohio makes the 13 - 44 lb powder coat bells, Cadillac Casting in Michigan makes the 53 - 88 lb powder coat bells, as well as the entire e-coat line.
Machining is done by Cadillac Casting (Michigan) and MAKO (Ohio).
The coating is done by Greenfield Products (Ohio) and CRM, inc. (Michigan).
'I don't care where they're made, I want high quality kettlebells'
Lmao loved the honesty
Ha. Thanks.
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@Ralph Jayceon yea, I've been watching on flixzone for since december myself =)
I’ve got two of the E coats 16/20kg and must say they are Fantastic!
Grip is definitely better with some chalk On them.took two weeks to get to Ireland which wasn’t bad.Nice review man👍🏼
I purchased a set of the USA powder coat kettlebells from Rogue. I have the 8kg - 32kg. In the powder coat version, the 20kg and below are made in Ohio, out of class 30 grey iron, meanwhile the 24kg and up are made in Michigan, and out of ductile iron.
Personally I feel like the ductile iron a lot better. They feel smoother to me and have larger handle windows, although that may just be due to size. Makes we wish I would’ve gotten the e-coat version. Supposedly e-coat is a lot more durable than powder coating as well, but I’ve heard people complain that it’s too slippery.
I live in Columbus as well, and it sucks that they won’t let you come to the store to see them first. Not to mention I have to pay for shipping, when it’s 10 minutes down the road. Grr...
I still would like to get the 36 and 40 to complete my set. Or I could start my competition kb collection from kettlebell USA.
I have both powder and e coat 44lbs and the ecoat bell is Significantly fatter. So much so my hand placements were different. E coat is a lot less comfortable. When performing a floor chest press the ecoat dug into my forearm and had to hold it differently then the powder coat. Had no issues with the powdered coat.
Yep weight is very differently placed.
I have only used competition kettlebells and I only just ordered a 24 kg cast iron from Rogue. Bit more expensive here in Australia so didn’t get the E Coat. I’ll have to wait and see what it’s like when it arrives.
I have two Rogue cast iron powder coat kb: 12 & 32kg, both manufactured in China (bought before US started manufacturing) and they have excellent quality! I also have two 24kg KettlebellKings with same quality as Rogue.
Thanks for reviews! I think of buying two 16kg from Rogue and was hesitant which one to choose - US or China and you made me a big favor by reviewing these!
These are both American! !!!!!
Some of the most expensive KBs are e-coat. The grip is typically better than powder coat, which leads to less rubbing/callouses.
Hi Joe, I am new to kettlebells and I got two 44 Lbs Rogue and I saw the same issue. I saw the same thing, also the bottom of one of them is wider than the other. I am glad you are reviewing this brand.
Happy to help with what I notice.
My two cents, for whatever it’s worth. I’m relatively new to training with kettlebells (8 months) and I’m happy with my 16 kg Rogue e-coat. I bought it to double my first 16 kg which is a powder coat TRX kettlebell, and I have no complaints. It is indeed a bit of a more texture finish than the powder coat, I’m not sure it’s entirely appropriate to call it “rough”. I don’t think I’ve detected any prominent ridges. Maybe it’s a quality control issue or due to the variation of which state it’s made in?
I think QC Is a big factor and right now with kettlebells being so incredibly popular people are upset that they're taking so long to get to them that quality control might be a little bit laxx
It would have been nice to see if the weight was accurate and the same on each Rogue kettlebell since you mentioned clearly the apparent difference in size.
It is. Same weight. Just very different proportions.
Thanks for the review,Joe. I had purchaced their 24k powdercoat yesterday. I was curiose about the e coat but i know i like powdercoat. That difference does though makes me question too. Wow
Welcome. It shocked me as I kind of expected at least the same shape....
You should put them on a scales and test actual weight too.
Great vid and keep the content coming
Especially because it was mentioned several times the apparent difference in size...
Yes I noticed that as well, I preferred the powder coat to the e coat
Same
The powder coat one looks like it would be easier to do renegade rows with
Much wider base.
I think perhaps they switched molds to one with a bigger base. You probably got one of the ones from the older base.
I have one of each, different weights but I'm not a fan of the e-coating, I also find the seam on my e-coated one is bothersome when doing higher reps.
Thats what i and other clients at my gym noticed. What the hell is e coating anyway.........
@@kettlebellmusclegain Electrophoretic Painting was original introduced as an anti-corrosion coating for cars. Rogue uses it on some of their barbells as well. It is between the oxide coatings and cerakote in terms of durability. It still scratches of course.
To check them out I bought two 16KG e-coat bells, and I am happy to say there is no seam. I had heard that the e-coat rogue bells were being shipped with a seam, which is a real shame I think. They should up their quality control out of that factory.
Thanks for that insight tarrence!
They look amazing overall, but for some reason that visible seam looks a bit off to me. :( I reached out to Rogue and this is by design as per their customer service.
Lol that's a silly answer
Probably a bigger handle on the powder coated version, which equals a better version due to the grip strength you’ll earn.
Nearly similar but this is why I like to use all types and sizes of handles. As that's what will give you the most overall grip strength . All thicknesses.
Not that I want to push you to buy a bunch of bells, but there is also Rep Fitness that is similarily priced, or even a bit cheaper than Rogue. So far I like most of the Rep Fitness bells I have, except for the 16KG, maybe which have a smaller diameter handle for some reason. The 20,24 and 28 all are much more consistent.
Lots of places are vastly different in the 28 through 32 realm. I have several Great Lakes bells. I love the 26kg. Not a fan of the 32.
I have the same edge on my 32k powder coat, pre-pandemic so probably Chinese. I'm assuming the difference in size from different manufacturers is from a lack of mold uniformity, which is hard to make sense of. Also it may just be my eyes but is there more weight in the handle of the shorter bell? Looks slightly fatter from here..
This is a HUGe difference though.
Hi. difficult question. Rogue powder or RKC dragon door? I have small hands and I'm short. Thanks !
Rogue powder great quality and cheaper I believe
Although if you are using a single kettlebell competition bells might have a better handle they have 33 or 35 mm handles versus the larger ones of the cast irons
@@kettlebellmusclegain I want to buy two kettlebells. I want to start practicing with both hands. I have adjustable Ironmaster kettlebell..first I want to buy two 16kg kettlebells and two 20kg kettlebells
I was very disappointed by my E-coats. The casting quality was very poor. Very chunky and not smooth. Huge seams on the handle. Rogue replaced one for me and the new bell was worse than the first one. Not to mention very small windows. Try cleaning one of those and it'll destroy your wrist. Sold them all and got Paradigms. I did get a used USA powder coat and it seemed to be a higher quality casting, it's from a different foundry.
Interesting. And good to hear.
I just got 2 e-coat bells (a 24kg and a 28kg) and my biggest complaint is the window size compared to the bells I have from Onnit. I love doing cleans and unless your technique is flawless (which mine isn't) your wrists are gonna get punished.
Interesting.
@@theSinisterBend I'm new to kb. Eventually want to learn cleans. Are you saying the onnit KBs are easier to clean and do other 2 handed movements because they have bigger windows?
@@john-mf6jo The onnit bells I have are a few years old and their design has changed. Not sure if the window is still the same. The rogue bell is only .5 inches shorter on the width and about .25 shorter on the height.
That's why I only buy either Dragon door or Kettlebell kings bells.
Ive had to return 2 KBK bells . Vid coming soon. They made it right though.
I recently got some kbks and the quality went way down,, they look like these rogue ones,, i have the older powder coated ones and those were sooooo much smoother and no issues no nicks or burs or seams,, no more bells for me since the change
All sorts of stuff has changed I feel since the pandemic started......
@@DonManolo01 i agree i have kbk from before the pandemic and during and the quality is noticably different.
@@kettlebellmusclegain KBK just buys bells that are available in China and puts their name on them. If you go on Alibaba you can find the bells they buy. Both the standard comp bell, the cone horn bell and the adjustable comp bells. If you order over XXXXkgs of bells from these companies they will cast your logo into them for you.
I’m in the market for my first kettlebell,and I like the idea of a USA made product.Any updates or comments on which of the two were “better”?
I like the powder coat better but you might like these they're incredible prokettlebell.com/online-store?aff=swing
The shipping is so expensive and doesn't go down when you buy more than one kb. I decided to go with amazon ones.
Yes it based on weight.
Which ones on Amazon did you go with? The Amazon basics?
Well the thing about shipping weight is the more weight you ship the more expensive it's going to be in transit until you get to a certain point of freight
what's your take on Rogue's Competiton bells?
I think theyre directly based off old VF beveldd bells. The handle seems too thin and the. Window looks like a circle to me. But I havent used one so I cant speak from personal experiemce. Guess ill have to get one.
@@kettlebellmusclegain If you do can you post a review? I'm on the fence about getting them since they're the only comp bell I can find that's reliably in stock.
Of course
$55 a piece but you forgot the rediculous shipping costs that rogue charges
I guess it depends road rogues shipping charges aren't built in as some catalog companies are that look much more expensive everyone in the end is shipping certain amount of weight that depends on freight carriers You can't get away from that I live about 2 hours away from Rogue and have driven there to pick up some very heavy equipment such as squat stands and things before but I understand that not many people are in that in that same space
Excellent review. Tq.
Thank you
Thank you for this video
You're welcome. I like them but prefer the powder coat overall
What does someone as strong as you do with 16kg bells?
cant always lift heavy. thats how people get injuries. also 2x 16kg = 70 lbs.... I love using 16-20 kg bells
The original powder coated Rogue Kettlebells (the ones with colored bands) are better quality, fit and finish, than these offerings. No casting or mold seams/marks, texture is a good balance between grip and non gonna tear my hands up, and the colored bands are easy to identify the weights. That's my opinion, ymmv.
Interesting huh?
The powder coat has the flatter bottom, it will be more stable.
True but what i do with kettlebells, and most others as well, having them on the ground is the least important aspect. unless theyre doing "KENTUCKY BURPEES" !!!
Prefer the powder coated one my self
Do you have used bells for sale?
Not currently.
@@kettlebellmusclegain ok thought you might have mentioned you wanted sell some. Thanks for response. 👍
Yeah i might soon if i keep getting replacements. 16kg bellls are what I recommend more than anything across the board for people. A male with 2x16kg. Kb can get a wonderful longevity based training stimulus.
@@kettlebellmusclegain through your videos i have learned this. I own 1 ..20kg and have access to another but to do some things with 2 20kg is often too big a jump for me. Suggestions?
Do you have bands?
These or the Dragon Door's?
I would go for the powder-coated version of these I found the dragon doors to be incredibly overpriced
@@kettlebellmusclegain They sure are. They are of nice quality though. Sadly, it seems that where i live i don't have access to the powder coated version of the Rouge's.
Rogues should be fine for you
I think they are so different because they are not the same type of steel so they have to machine more off of one because it is heavier iron... Actually I think one is iron and one is steel... IMHO... ✌️
possibly!
Not cleaning up the casting seams, that’s pretty shady. Did you return them? Refurbish them yourself? 100k swings, you don’t want those seams on the handles eating up your hands.
That wasn't too bad. If they were bad I wouldve sanded em
I don’t like the long handle and small bell
Overall, would you still recommend these?
Yes. I liked the powder coat better.
Those Kettebells will outlive you, your kids and grandkids. I love my powder coat ones.
Joe did you weigh them?
Not yet. Weight seems same.
I prefer e coat
The small one is more effective
What do you mean by "effective"?
@@kettlebellmusclegain make your training more harder
@@kettlebellmusclegain i forgot where to read that the kettlebell which the center of gravity far from hand and the mass of the iron ball smaller is more difficult to use in ballistic patterns
Weigh them!!!
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First again!
That’s shit! I don’t like how low the powder coat one sits. Kettlebell kings all the way.