Calculating Starting Sugar for Wine

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Describes the steps to manually calculate how much starting sugar you need to reach a given starting gravity & a given alcohol by volume (ABV).
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  • @DIYFermentation
    @DIYFermentation  2 роки тому +5

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    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  2 роки тому

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    • @chrispigott6913
      @chrispigott6913 5 місяців тому

      @@DIYFermentation I have an old wine making book that I have been using for years. It says two and a half pounds of sugar per gallon for wine that will keep, 3 pounds for a strong wine and up to 4 pounds of sugar for a sweet wine. No mention of a hydrometer ! No wonder my wines are so strong !

  • @grandpied
    @grandpied Рік тому +3

    An amazing ability to answer so many questions quickly, concisely and fluff-less-ly.

  • @jenslyn42
    @jenslyn42 2 роки тому +7

    I'm really happy you chose to explain it in SI units, rather than the usual ounces of sugar per gallon I have heard of before.

  • @slahring1
    @slahring1 Рік тому +1

    FINALLY!!!!! I cannot tell you how many UA-cam videos I have watched trying to figure this out!! As a newbie to this, this video is EXACTLY what I was looking for and needed to keep going. And it just so happens that TODAY is the day I have to do this or my whole 14 gallons of sorted and cleaned concord grapes would be wasted. Thank you!!!!

  • @dalvarad100
    @dalvarad100 Рік тому +1

    I saw your video on how to make blackberry wine for the first time last year-- i was looking for something else to make with my over abundant blackberry vines. I followed your recipe, word for word, and the wine was successfull. I bottled it in late July and opened the first bottle for my birthday in Nov, i know just 3 months, but I couldn't wait. You were right thought, when I opened the other bottles in March, April, May and June it tasted better. This year I'm trying again, with a few variations, and I'm also making your peach wine recipe but with fresh peaches from my mother's garden. Let's see how long I hold out-- I'm trying to teach myself how to use the hydrometer and try to manipulate the wine a little more next season--- a big thank you to you sir for making this simple, easy, and on a budget for me to try-- PS. my husband is enjoying the process too. He says he wishes he paid more attention in chemistry LOL-- God bless

  • @bongdallion3435
    @bongdallion3435 Рік тому +1

    Best explanation ive seen yet on youtube, thank you

  • @comtedesaintgermain9269
    @comtedesaintgermain9269 2 роки тому +1

    this is exactly what i was looking for, a fundamental approach! thank you so much man!

  • @michaeljohnson-mc9lx
    @michaeljohnson-mc9lx 11 місяців тому +1

    I ran into a problem when I first started making mead that I didn't understand. I figured fruit juice was about 1.030 usually so I add 2 pounds honey per gallon. But then I used grape juice!!! I didn't check gravity on the juice first. My Hydrometer barely sank into the must haha. It was a bobber pretty much! yeast stalled right away and it was a pour out situation. I did it again recently and checked og first. one pound of honey to one gallon of grape juice is right at 1.090.. perfect!! Love the video man!! You do videos that most of the channels don't. That's why I watch! Apparently grapes have a ton of sugar on their own haha!

  • @johnquattlebaum5940
    @johnquattlebaum5940 2 місяці тому

    I'm a little bit late brother, but this video filled in all my questions on this subject! Much appreciated

  • @DirtDigglerDetecting
    @DirtDigglerDetecting Рік тому +1

    OMg when you started doing Math. I fell in Love. I Loved this. THANK YOU. Just picked up some Juice and sugar an yeast to try this out. Thank you so much

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  Рік тому

      Once I put all the formulas into a spreadsheet, the process actually became easy to use.

  • @dockofthebaycountrywines69
    @dockofthebaycountrywines69 2 роки тому +1

    Nice and simple! 😊 Keep the videos coming!

  • @chemainealston2395
    @chemainealston2395 Рік тому

    I love your videos. I learn so many different recipes. I appreciate the way you break the information down.

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  Рік тому

      Well, this one was a bit complicated. I ended up creating a spreadsheet to crunch the numbers when I need to find out how much sugar to add.

  • @JayDeeChannel
    @JayDeeChannel Рік тому +1

    This is exactly the info I needed! Thank you for making it simple to work out!!!

  • @stevesniezak4307
    @stevesniezak4307 2 роки тому

    Outstanding video! Very down to earth, common sense and understandable. Also exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very, very much.

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  2 роки тому

      I usually don't do these technical type videos.

  • @Nagap08
    @Nagap08 9 місяців тому +2

    . Thanks for another great video.

  • @royalecrafts6252
    @royalecrafts6252 8 місяців тому +1

    the amount of alcohol is subjected to the quantity of alcohol that the specific yeast can produce and how consistent that particular yeast produce the wanted level of alcohol, you can't really predict that unless your yeast is super consistent even if you pre-calculate everything

  • @pradeepshukla3970
    @pradeepshukla3970 Рік тому

    Thanks for all the highly informative videos uploaded on your channel 👍

  • @tomprocko1989
    @tomprocko1989 Рік тому

    This video helped me alot, thank you for taking the time out to make this :)

  • @johnwriterpoet1783
    @johnwriterpoet1783 Рік тому +2

    Must instead of musk.😊

  • @treich1234
    @treich1234 Рік тому +1

    @ 5:59 Where was the 19 grams of sugar derived from?

  • @johnbarrios4531
    @johnbarrios4531 Рік тому +1

    Great info thanks

  • @Cravix02
    @Cravix02 9 місяців тому

    Awesome information. Thank you sir

  • @Lemonz1989
    @Lemonz1989 Рік тому

    Thank you. Exactly what I needed 😊
    I noticed you said you choose to add less sugar than the calculation tells you to. I did some more reading about this, and notice one source said 1 degree on the hydrometer equals 2.7 grams of sugar per liter, but another said 2.36 grams of sugar per liter. You might try the lower value next time when calculating it? ☺️

  • @kiennguyentrung8396
    @kiennguyentrung8396 2 роки тому

    so helpul for me, thank you so much

  • @davidwright7140
    @davidwright7140 3 місяці тому

    I shoot for a starting gravity of 1.100. One pound of sugar gives you 0.046 SG points. Pretty easy to get close without going through all that.

  • @apenutz987
    @apenutz987 2 роки тому

    Great video. Thanks.

  • @Grandpa_RLP
    @Grandpa_RLP 2 роки тому +4

    1lb of sugar in 1 gallon of water gives you 32 gravity points. It doesn't get any more simple.

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  2 роки тому +2

      If I were making kilju, perhaps. But with varing amounts of sugar in juice, with varing preferred starting gravities, with varying preferred abv outcomes, your calculation won't work.

    • @Grandpa_RLP
      @Grandpa_RLP 2 роки тому +2

      @@DIYFermentation It absolutely will work. Once you determine what your starting gravity of juice/must is you use this simple formula. Target gravity - starting gravity = missing gravity points (example) 1 gallon batch. SG of must 1.048 and target gravity of 1.080 (1080 - 1048 = 32) add 1 lb of sugar to reach 1.080 of it is more or less you simply do the math to determine how much. If you know 1 lb = 32 gravity points you can easily determine how much sugar to add. It is the same thing you are doing only easier. If you are making 5 gallons multiply answer by 5. But you do you. :)

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 2 роки тому +1

      @@Grandpa_RLP Depends partly on your desired alcohol content. I'm a caveman and I want to brew it until the yeast dies. Plus by doing that you don't have to worry about building excessive pressure in the bottles.

    • @wireman4029
      @wireman4029 3 місяці тому

      Thank you! This information is ALL I was searching for.

  • @jdesmond4101
    @jdesmond4101 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Charles. Love this channel. Think you made a typo though. It's must, not musk.

  • @mikeharmon4901
    @mikeharmon4901 Рік тому +1

    I followed an old Jack Keller recipe for mustang grape wine and lost the recipe after he died and my record of the 4 year old batch that I just bottled. The only thing I found from Jack's recipes for mustang grape was one using grape juice. He recommends adding water to this in from a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio. He also recommends starting SG of 1.09 after sugaring.
    I am at 1.07 SG after adding the recommended sugar.
    Would your calculations work without the must to find what sugar is needed to raise the ABV to 12.5%?
    The juice pretty well includes everything but the skin and seeds.

  • @TSliw
    @TSliw Рік тому

    Thanks for all the videos. Love your energy, you're clearly having a good time while doing this
    One question i have with this method is if you do anything to help dissolve the sugar in the water/must after taking the initial SG? Do you worry about getting every grain of sugar dissolved, or will the yeast do its thing regardless?

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  Рік тому +1

      This channel is not that critical in it's measurements.

    • @TSliw
      @TSliw Рік тому +1

      @@DIYFermentation thanks!
      Gonna try back sweetening for the first time wish me luck

  • @skyeridge2020
    @skyeridge2020 5 місяців тому

    Enjoying your videos! What online calculator would you recommend for someone trying to calculate how much sugar, yeast (and type of yeast) to add in order to make dry wine from both store bought juice and table grapes and frozen fruit? And what SG should I have if I want to make dry wine? Thanks for your help!

  • @deanlol
    @deanlol Рік тому +2

    One of the problems with brewing that I'm finding is how people are using the Imperial system and the Metric system interchangeably. We have had devastating results in rocket science because of issues like this. How can we predictably make good wine if we use liters, grams, pounds, gallons and ounces all together as units of measurement?

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  Рік тому +2

      I agree, I remember a mars mission that was lost because of this. I generally now just use the imperial system. This video I had little choice but to mix the two. I eventually created a spreadsheet to crunch the numbers and spit out the results in both metric and imperial.

    • @deanlol
      @deanlol Рік тому

      @@DIYFermentation I guess that's what I'm going to have to do.

  • @user-zp8ck2ze8k
    @user-zp8ck2ze8k 10 місяців тому +1

    My home made rice and sugar wine test like sour, is that ok??

  • @Quinny1394
    @Quinny1394 2 роки тому +1

    So I'm going to be doing an 9 litre batch (2.4gal) of pyment in an 11 litre (2.9gal) food safe pail, still need to drill a hole in the lid for an airlock and one on the side for a tap/faucet.
    I determined that 1.4 kilograms (3.09lb) of raw mixed blossom honey will make it 1.050 and top up with red grape juice, should make it 1.100 and let ferment dry, rack into secondary, stabilise and back sweeten with raw leatherwood honey and add a French oak spiral, after some time when it tastes like it doesn't need anything and it can go into bottles I will use some type of finings. It can continue to age and mellow out in bottles, I will use 750ml wine bottles with real corks and let them sit for however long in my parents wine fridge, its never plugged in but its always at a good temperature as their house is made of stone & brick and is always 'room temperature'
    Got it all worked out 😉🤣
    Cheers.

  • @MBTIinRealLife
    @MBTIinRealLife Рік тому

    It's kinda strange. They say, that 1% of sugar in musk gives us 0.56% of alcohol in the final product. 0.56 fits well with 19 grams of sugar to get 1 gram of alcohol, just as you say. So far so good. Now then, we take our 10 litre musk with 1000 grams of sugar in it from apples. We wanna get 16% ABV. It's 19x16=3040 grams of sugar needed. 3040-1000=2040 of sugar needed to be added into musk to get 16% ABV. But. When we add 2040 grams of sugar into 10 litres musk we will get 11.22 litres'musk because 2040 grams of sugar dissolved in sugar and added 1.22 litres to the total volume. Now, instead of 28% share of sugar (28% x 0.56 = 16% desired ABV) we get only 27% (3.040 of 11.24 is 27% of 100%).

  • @user-iv9lr7uu3c
    @user-iv9lr7uu3c Рік тому

    Based on your calculation, you would end up with a 4.97% wine, if you didn't add any more sugar.
    94.5 g/l / 19 = 4.97
    Is this correct?

  • @alexander8708
    @alexander8708 2 дні тому

    I can replace the sugar with honey? And the math still works?

  • @ellederberryblue8377
    @ellederberryblue8377 Рік тому +1

    Are you saying that you take a hydrometer reading before ANY sugar at all? Meaning the reading is from just fruit and water?

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  Рік тому

      That is correct.

    • @avanti2762
      @avanti2762 Рік тому +1

      @@DIYFermentation But how do you do that? For example if im making a one gallon batch, do you add the fruit and water all the way upto the one gallon mark and then take an sg? and then you calculate sugar and take water back out of the must, dissolve with sugar and add it back into the must?

  • @EDUKASIESENSIAL
    @EDUKASIESENSIAL Рік тому +1

    are those all sugar convert into alcohol in the first fermentation, or just 70% of it

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  Рік тому +1

      On this channel, I would consider the question over-thinking things a bit. I try to keep thing simple (this video aside). But to answer your question, I would say about 70%/

  • @tominva4121
    @tominva4121 Рік тому +1

    Now - if your making Mead what is amount of Honey compared Sugar?

  • @shashatheonly
    @shashatheonly 5 місяців тому

    i dont quite understand. you said your goal starting SG is 1.080 for 12.5% ABV. but with my calculations you will only get 11% ABV if you start with 1.080.

  • @AkuaKamau
    @AkuaKamau 2 роки тому

    Hello DIY I have a question. You havent used the 1.080 hydrometer reading in your calculations. How comes?

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  2 роки тому

      Personal choice. Anywhere in the general vicinity is good enough. This channel is not about exactness.

  • @flawdanative3223
    @flawdanative3223 11 місяців тому +3

    It's called "Must" not 'Musk'.

  • @alcoholyouback
    @alcoholyouback 2 роки тому

    Hey Charles,
    Would you consider having a starting gravity above 1.110? In order to have a stronger wine % at the end?

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  2 роки тому

      Sorry, but as stated in the initial comment "This channel does not offer individual winemaking advice."

    • @rodneyswitzer607
      @rodneyswitzer607 2 роки тому

      The answer is yes.

    • @alcoholyouback
      @alcoholyouback 2 роки тому

      @@rodneyswitzer607 thanks! 😊😊

  • @velurajkumar5435
    @velurajkumar5435 11 місяців тому

    Pleas explain how much yeast to put 1 liter of water

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  11 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/NzcDhg3LZIs/v-deo.html

  • @titusinkitchen158
    @titusinkitchen158 2 роки тому +1

    19 grams of suger for 1% of alcohol is the same always, is that is the formula?

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  2 роки тому

      The formulas for this video can be found here: mpesgens.home.xs4all.nl/thwp/sugar.html

  • @mohamedazwaw5845
    @mohamedazwaw5845 Рік тому

    how you got 1080 thanks

  • @mosesgitari9085
    @mosesgitari9085 Рік тому

    19 from where?

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  Рік тому

      Source material used for the video: mpesgens.home.xs4all.nl/thwp/sugar.html

  • @williamk2023
    @williamk2023 Рік тому

    👍.

  • @earlgrae
    @earlgrae 5 місяців тому +1

    its Must, not Musk 😄

  • @robinbranco437
    @robinbranco437 6 місяців тому

    How about a new video? 1 gal of motts 2 cups light brown sugar 1/2 pack of bread yeast??

  • @dvsmotions
    @dvsmotions Рік тому

    FYI, it's called must not musk.

  • @royalecrafts6252
    @royalecrafts6252 8 місяців тому +1

    1000 is the value of distilled water

  • @panzak83
    @panzak83 2 роки тому +1

    You are really simplifing all the prosedure in your videos but today you lost me at the part of ABV calculation

    • @DIYFermentation
      @DIYFermentation  2 роки тому

      Yes, I know this one was a bit outside the level of this channel, but it needed to be done.

  • @thenicklam
    @thenicklam 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you , you made it clear and simple 🤌🤌

  • @BjornHansen314
    @BjornHansen314 Рік тому +1

    I dont have a hydrometer or anything like that. So im just guessing. What is the starting gravity of ordinary 100% apple juice? 1.045 is what I have heard. My math may be wrong, but i calculated if you want 12.5 abv in store bought apple juice you need to add approximately 2.25 cups of sugar to one gallon. 😊