Thanks for this everyone. What I got over all about the salt part is pretty much anything that’s processed with added salt even though it’s plant-based it’s going to be too high in sodium. Better to make your own soup etc. so that you know what’s in it. And a little salt is ok.
I wouldn’t be so casual about salt. I’m 37 years old, 6’1” and 145lbs. Three pounds of cabbages and 2.5 pounds of potatoes with a couple extra vegetables like cucumber, bell pepper and a honey crisp apple puts me right around my basal metabolic rate for calories with sodium around 800mg If I add the freshest salsa I can buy, which is the market mild salsa that contains 5calories per serving, that tub is one pound and it’ll take my sodium over 3,200mg. So instead of salsa, i just use tomato paste for my lycopene to avoid stomach cancer and I add my beans and lime to this mixture. It’s close enough to salsa that I find it enjoyable while scooping with bell peppers and it keeps my sodium over 500 but below 1500. And I only have this stuff two or three times per week to keep my protein levels below the Nathan-Pritikin-recommended 13-14% so I’m not losing kidney function every year (get your BUN test next time you get labs drawn). I think a gang of people watching this are going to be surprised by their first heart attack around the age of 45. Don’t forget, 75% of Americans think they eat healthy. And basically everyone thinks the human body is “cool” with handling poisons from time to time. How often do you punch yourself in the face? Probably never, right? The world and it’s delicious poisons are getting worse. These companies are obligated to make more profits than last year for their shareholders. And where do you think those “extra” profits are coming from? They’re coming out of YOU and the wellness of your FAMILY. I understand that we’re at war. And the only weapon we have is the decisions we make regarding what goes in our mouths. Stay frosty, friends 🤗
On top of this all, whole food plant based low fat eaters are at higher risk of stroke due to high sodium because we don't have the fatty deposits in our arteries that cause heart attack.
Just a comment for Chuck and Dr. Bernard. Went to the first Veg Fest of Southern Oregon today. Imagine how surprised and pleased to see a booth from Rogue Nutrition, that featured PCRMs literatura! This was held at an animal sanctury. Lots of people there!
Salt+low cholesterol=bleed stroke risk? Glutened low BP after. Used salt months 150lbs40 LDL had sharp pains in head+day long storm inflammation in head yikes! 180lbs SAD diet 30 years never felt this
Its so disheartening to see my cardiologist so proud of the new manhattan location. Wish he felt the same about the bronx Bainbridge location that myself and others are part of. We don’tv have a whole foods or much beauty to look at. So does that mean the quality of care for us in the bronx will diminish? He is a great listener and knowledgeable cardiologist nonetheless.
What a great video as always, Chuck. Always look forward to your podcasts; you always have such great Dr.’s on your videos with such great info. Thanks again! ❤ 🥦 🍓 🫑 🥝 🍑 🥰
I've become addicted to Knorr veggie stock cubes and I have on average 2 a day. It seems really hard to find out how much salt and how many calories are in each stock cube, Knorr only gives this info per portion (to confuse customers!). Does anyone know where I can get this information? Thank you. I'm trying to cut down, the rest of my diet is very clean but these stock cubes have really got me and I've been adding them to everything
It is the artificial flavor enhancers, sugar, and/or yeast extract in the bouillon that makes people addicted. Miso, tamari, tomato juice, dried mushrooms, sundried tomatoes, spices, etc, are some natural glutamate sources and gives one more control over what and how much goes in their food.
It's impossible to eat no fat, all vegetables, fruit and starches like whole grains, potatoes and beans have omega 3 and 6 fats in the correct ratio's. We can make all the saturated fat and cholesterol we need ourselves.
Low Sodium diets induce Osteoporosis as the body requires Sodium to perform critical functions in Energy Metabolism. Fat, in the form of Saturated Fat, is critical for Cholesterol synthesis which is how Minerals and Vitamins are shuttled through the Bloodstream.
I wouldn’t say that. Fat has severe detrimental effects long term. So does salt but salt’s negatives are easily mitigated if you eat high potassium (at least 2-5x the amount of potassium to sodium), stay hydrated and exercise/are active. No amount of healthy foods/potassium, hydration, or exercise will hamper the bad effects from fat in my experience
@@frank-the-tank75 Either one is toxic, in excess! Also, I assume we all mean "free fat, and free salt" in the form of added sodium chloride and purified fats like oils or lard.
@@peter5.056 Saturated fat is what can be unhealthy. Healthfulness of other fats are totally dependent on quantity. Fat has 9 calories per gram. Carbohydrates have 4 calories per gram.
We can quickly pee out the fluid from too much salt (with the help of specific herbs). Fats can easily hang in body and build up and will take more effort to get out of body.
I think it is wrong to downplay studies of Asian diets when recommending "optimal" diets. The case for fish is greatest in Asian countries. But obviously Asian diets are predominantly vegetarian too.
Great video. The title seems a bit pessimistic. Maybe something like, "how much salt and fat is recommended for health and longevity." Thanks for the information.
Any added salt is unnatural, so it is really impossible for a human to 'add' too little salt as all food has a certain amount of salt in it naturally. Calling natural food 'extremely low in salt' is pretty weird, especially for a doctor to say
I have a question about B12. I read that WFPB folks should take a supplement but I also read that it comes from the soil and animals consume it while grazing, which is how meat eaters consume it. WHPB people eat root vegetables grown in the soil…so wouldn’t we be consuming it directly from the soil? Skipping the middle man (or beast lol)? Or does it have something to do with what happens to it after it is consumed by animals? I’m really puzzles about this. Thanks
It's because we wash the veggies, and get rid of the soil containing those microorganisms that make B12. Whereas cows consume some soil along with the grass. I take a supplement that comes in the form of a strip that disperses on the tongue.
There is a lot in soil besides B12 that we really don't want to eat, so i rather wash my veggies and take the supplement. Animals in the livestock industry are often supplemented aswell because they don't always spend so much time outside grazing.
I enjoy them both, I have a teaspoon of salt in my water in the morning and then I add salt to my steak and eggs when I remember. I think both salt and saturated fat are both required but ensure it's animal fats as I think all plant fats are unhealthy.
Animal fats are unhealthy and we don't need them at all. Meat is heavy on our digestion, whereas plants are light and make us glow from within. Shiny hair, strong bones etc. Plant fats are healthy and nourish us. 😊
"when you remember" .. so when you take a bite of it. I think it's super duper rare for people to eat steak and eggs without salt (and other seasonings). But maybe you're hardcore. Saturated fat we can make ourselves just fine. Seed and plant oils are unhealthy, but don't tell me the fat in oats or spinach is bad. It's the perfect omega 3 to 6 ratio in vegetables and fruits.
@@11235Aodh Yes, I do forget to add salt and seasonings often :) As for plant fats, I read this study: "Differences between phytosterols with different structures in regulating cholesterol synthesis, transport and metabolism in Caco-2 cells" which seems to indicate that plant fats may be processed differently by our bodies than animal fats.
ua-cam.com/video/1Y-jQ8OBXko/v-deo.html If anyone thinks excess salt has no adverse health effects, think again. Having normal blood pressure is not a free pass to consume as much a salt as you want.
@@donwinston it takes years to know...but I'm sure there are some in the world who can do anything with no adverse effects. The problem is if one assumes that's oneself...and then finds out later that assumption was incorrect...one is stuck in the quicksand of a bad lifetime decision.
Is it that deep? This is a vegan/plant based channel so obviously they want to lean into how “animal fat” is worse. That said you might agree it’s a weird comparison to me🤷🏼♀️
My family says keto made them more healthy, but I know people who got healthy on a low fat vegan diet. Is one better then the other or does it depend on the person? I should add one person I know has done keto for many years and advocates it strongly.
They CAN'T know they're healthy or not. In my experience as a clinical dietitian, people who are on low carb diets for >10 years, almost always have health problems from it.
Depends how you define low carb or keto. Replacing grains, fruits, beans and starches with avocados, nuts, seeds and soy products would show good results compared to what is advocated on standard keto diet (dairy, meat, eggs and oil). Finding the sweet spot for what works for you instead of following what others do and sticking to a whole foods plant exclusive diet is best. 30+ plants per week is optimal but don't think keto folks are meeting that!
Please don’t demonise salt. It’s essential. Can you explain why the Koreans can eat a very high salt diet (up to 3x American diet) yet they have the lowest death rate by heart disease of any nation. Also please explain how you can get your RDI for chloride of 3000mg necessary for proper digestion without eating an RDI of 5000mg of NCL. Sodium is only a problem if you don’t have enough potassium. Any whole plant based vegan gets plenty of potassium. Apply your salt liberally vegans, remember the RDI is a teaspoon a day.
I don't know about Koreans but Japanese eating a traditional diet had a low rate of heart disease but a very high rate of bleeding stroke (which is generally fairly rare) due to their diet being so very high in salt. Their traditional diet was mostly plant-based and contained a decent amount of vegetables.
@@Equinox1.5 I don't know where you get your information but Japan has a low death rate by stroke too. About the same rate as the USA. They are ranked 161 out of 183 countries.
Koreans are also number #1 in the world for cases of stomach cancer. Why? It's the high salt foods irritating the gastric mucosa, thinning it out, leading to ulcerations, gi bleeds and gastric cancer.
Chuck's enthusiasm and energy is an advertisement for this way of eating!
💯 agree
Salespeople are enthusiastic
Thanks for this everyone. What I got over all about the salt part is pretty much anything that’s processed with added salt even though it’s plant-based it’s going to be too high in sodium. Better to make your own soup etc. so that you know what’s in it. And a little salt is ok.
I wouldn’t be so casual about salt. I’m 37 years old, 6’1” and 145lbs. Three pounds of cabbages and 2.5 pounds of potatoes with a couple extra vegetables like cucumber, bell pepper and a honey crisp apple puts me right around my basal metabolic rate for calories with sodium around 800mg
If I add the freshest salsa I can buy, which is the market mild salsa that contains 5calories per serving, that tub is one pound and it’ll take my sodium over 3,200mg.
So instead of salsa, i just use tomato paste for my lycopene to avoid stomach cancer and I add my beans and lime to this mixture. It’s close enough to salsa that I find it enjoyable while scooping with bell peppers and it keeps my sodium over 500 but below 1500. And I only have this stuff two or three times per week to keep my protein levels below the Nathan-Pritikin-recommended 13-14% so I’m not losing kidney function every year (get your BUN test next time you get labs drawn).
I think a gang of people watching this are going to be surprised by their first heart attack around the age of 45. Don’t forget, 75% of Americans think they eat healthy. And basically everyone thinks the human body is “cool” with handling poisons from time to time. How often do you punch yourself in the face? Probably never, right?
The world and it’s delicious poisons are getting worse. These companies are obligated to make more profits than last year for their shareholders. And where do you think those “extra” profits are coming from? They’re coming out of YOU and the wellness of your FAMILY.
I understand that we’re at war. And the only weapon we have is the decisions we make regarding what goes in our mouths.
Stay frosty, friends 🤗
On top of this all, whole food plant based low fat eaters are at higher risk of stroke due to high sodium because we don't have the fatty deposits in our arteries that cause heart attack.
Bravo HEROS!!! How gently you put out the subjects that I'd put out with a roaring voice, without a shade of patience!... 😂🤣😂👏👏👏🌿🌾✔️
Just a comment for Chuck and Dr. Bernard. Went to the first Veg Fest of Southern Oregon today. Imagine how surprised and pleased to see a booth from Rogue Nutrition, that featured PCRMs literatura! This was held at an animal sanctury. Lots of people there!
Amazon has dulse flakes if iodine is needed. I put a tablespoon in my breakfast smoothie daily.
Salt+low cholesterol=bleed stroke risk? Glutened low BP after. Used salt months 150lbs40 LDL had sharp pains in head+day long storm inflammation in head yikes! 180lbs SAD diet 30 years never felt this
Its so disheartening to see my cardiologist so proud of the new manhattan location. Wish he felt the same about the bronx Bainbridge location that myself and others are part of. We don’tv have a whole foods or much beauty to look at. So does that mean the quality of care for us in the bronx will diminish? He is a great listener and knowledgeable cardiologist nonetheless.
What a great video as always, Chuck. Always look forward to your podcasts; you always have such great Dr.’s on your videos with such great info. Thanks again! ❤ 🥦 🍓 🫑 🥝 🍑 🥰
"I'll put the link in the description."
Like most UA-camrs, you failed to do that.
Is there a link for the diet that this doctor recommends?
This is pretty much a vegan channel.
Look at Forks Over Kniives--- there is a free 21 day get started plan
Good informations. You can't pick one over another when both are worst. They both have to be left out.
I've become addicted to Knorr veggie stock cubes and I have on average 2 a day. It seems really hard to find out how much salt and how many calories are in each stock cube, Knorr only gives this info per portion (to confuse customers!). Does anyone know where I can get this information? Thank you. I'm trying to cut down, the rest of my diet is very clean but these stock cubes have really got me and I've been adding them to everything
Try contacting the manufacturer.
These cubes are packed with salt, 17% by weight and the same for fat
Far too much salt, and what you said, you've become addicted to it. This is by design. Why honor these people by giving them money? Kick the habit :).
It is the artificial flavor enhancers, sugar, and/or yeast extract in the bouillon that makes people addicted. Miso, tamari, tomato juice, dried mushrooms, sundried tomatoes, spices, etc, are some natural glutamate sources and gives one more control over what and how much goes in their food.
500 mg each. Cube💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
It's impossible to eat no fat, all vegetables, fruit and starches like whole grains, potatoes and beans have omega 3 and 6 fats in the correct ratio's. We can make all the saturated fat and cholesterol we need ourselves.
Low Sodium diets induce Osteoporosis as the body requires Sodium to perform critical functions in Energy Metabolism. Fat, in the form of Saturated Fat, is critical for Cholesterol synthesis which is how Minerals and Vitamins are shuttled through the Bloodstream.
You are spouting bullshit, I wonder where you picked it up?
Physician or not his dietary recommendations are completely off base
Keep it plant based! 💜💜💜
The answer to the title is, "neither." The dose makes the poison.
Qq
I wouldn’t say that. Fat has severe detrimental effects long term. So does salt but salt’s negatives are easily mitigated if you eat high potassium (at least 2-5x the amount of potassium to sodium), stay hydrated and exercise/are active. No amount of healthy foods/potassium, hydration, or exercise will hamper the bad effects from fat in my experience
@@frank-the-tank75 Either one is toxic, in excess!
Also, I assume we all mean "free fat, and free salt" in the form of added sodium chloride and purified fats like oils or lard.
@@peter5.056 Saturated fat is what can be unhealthy. Healthfulness of other fats are totally dependent on quantity. Fat has 9 calories per gram. Carbohydrates have 4 calories per gram.
We can quickly pee out the fluid from too much salt (with the help of specific herbs). Fats can easily hang in body and build up and will take more effort to get out of body.
I agree
I think it is wrong to downplay studies of Asian diets when recommending "optimal" diets. The case for fish is greatest in Asian countries. But obviously Asian diets are predominantly vegetarian too.
Great video. The title seems a bit pessimistic. Maybe something like, "how much salt and fat is recommended for health and longevity." Thanks for the information.
Any added salt is unnatural, so it is really impossible for a human to 'add' too little salt as all food has a certain amount of salt in it naturally. Calling natural food 'extremely low in salt' is pretty weird, especially for a doctor to say
Why is it weird?
I have a question about B12. I read that WFPB folks should take a supplement but I also read that it comes from the soil and animals consume it while grazing, which is how meat eaters consume it. WHPB people eat root vegetables grown in the soil…so wouldn’t we be consuming it directly from the soil? Skipping the middle man (or beast lol)? Or does it have something to do with what happens to it after it is consumed by animals? I’m really puzzles about this. Thanks
It's because we wash the veggies, and get rid of the soil containing those microorganisms that make B12. Whereas cows consume some soil along with the grass. I take a supplement that comes in the form of a strip that disperses on the tongue.
There is a lot in soil besides B12 that we really don't want to eat, so i rather wash my veggies and take the supplement. Animals in the livestock industry are often supplemented aswell because they don't always spend so much time outside grazing.
Salt and fat are good for you. Sugar is the main problem.
I enjoy them both, I have a teaspoon of salt in my water in the morning and then I add salt to my steak and eggs when I remember.
I think both salt and saturated fat are both required but ensure it's animal fats as I think all plant fats are unhealthy.
Animal fats are unhealthy and we don't need them at all. Meat is heavy on our digestion, whereas plants are light and make us glow from within. Shiny hair, strong bones etc. Plant fats are healthy and nourish us. 😊
"when you remember" .. so when you take a bite of it. I think it's super duper rare for people to eat steak and eggs without salt (and other seasonings). But maybe you're hardcore. Saturated fat we can make ourselves just fine. Seed and plant oils are unhealthy, but don't tell me the fat in oats or spinach is bad. It's the perfect omega 3 to 6 ratio in vegetables and fruits.
@@11235Aodh Yes, I do forget to add salt and seasonings often :)
As for plant fats, I read this study: "Differences between phytosterols with different structures in regulating cholesterol synthesis, transport and metabolism in Caco-2 cells"
which seems to indicate that plant fats may be processed differently by our bodies than animal fats.
Both are awful...everyone but Esselstyn and Pritikin has been afraid to just say...it's bad...don't eat it.
Many people can consume quite a bit of salt with no adverse health effects.
ua-cam.com/video/1Y-jQ8OBXko/v-deo.html If anyone thinks excess salt has no adverse health effects, think again. Having normal blood pressure is not a free pass to consume as much a salt as you want.
@@donwinston it takes years to know...but I'm sure there are some in the world who can do anything with no adverse effects. The problem is if one assumes that's oneself...and then finds out later that assumption was incorrect...one is stuck in the quicksand of a bad lifetime decision.
Why can't they both be detrimental? What's with this binary world?
Is it that deep? This is a vegan/plant based channel so obviously they want to lean into how “animal fat” is worse. That said you might agree it’s a weird comparison to me🤷🏼♀️
he do not know about the good amount of Sodium per day..but keep teling numbes, not very professional, If do not know do not answer
Fat is great, but added salt makes it better. To perfect it though, you must add sugar !
My family says keto made them more healthy, but I know people who got healthy on a low fat vegan diet. Is one better then the other or does it depend on the person? I should add one person I know has done keto for many years and advocates it strongly.
No one knows whether they are truly healthy or not...until they see what the inside of their arteries look like.
They CAN'T know they're healthy or not. In my experience as a clinical dietitian, people who are on low carb diets for >10 years, almost always have health problems from it.
@@betzib8021 well she had blood work done and seems to be healthier. But I lost weight and felt healthy on a mostly rice and potatoes diet.
Depends how you define low carb or keto. Replacing grains, fruits, beans and starches with avocados, nuts, seeds and soy products would show good results compared to what is advocated on standard keto diet (dairy, meat, eggs and oil). Finding the sweet spot for what works for you instead of following what others do and sticking to a whole foods plant exclusive diet is best. 30+ plants per week is optimal but don't think keto folks are meeting that!
@@AstonAcademia yes. however, what matters is what people are actually doing.
Please don’t demonise salt. It’s essential. Can you explain why the Koreans can eat a very high salt diet (up to 3x American diet) yet they have the lowest death rate by heart disease of any nation. Also please explain how you can get your RDI for chloride of 3000mg necessary for proper digestion without eating an RDI of 5000mg of NCL. Sodium is only a problem if you don’t have enough potassium. Any whole plant based vegan gets plenty of potassium. Apply your salt liberally vegans, remember the RDI is a teaspoon a day.
I don't know about Koreans but Japanese eating a traditional diet had a low rate of heart disease but a very high rate of bleeding stroke (which is generally fairly rare) due to their diet being so very high in salt. Their traditional diet was mostly plant-based and contained a decent amount of vegetables.
@@Equinox1.5 I don't know where you get your information but Japan has a low death rate by stroke too. About the same rate as the USA. They are ranked 161 out of 183 countries.
Koreans are also number #1 in the world for cases of stomach cancer. Why? It's the high salt foods irritating the gastric mucosa, thinning it out, leading to ulcerations, gi bleeds and gastric cancer.