And it would be nice if we did not have to take people to hospitals out side of our jurisdiction, it's one thing if it is a emergency specialist facility and another if pop who stumped his toe might ve broke but not life threatening refuses local er because he doesn't like them but wants to go two counties over because some areas have laws states patient can go where he wants even if it takes the only ems ambulance out of a area is just stupid mismanagement of resources and bad use of a law.
To the men in the EMS VEHICLE, Although the speed in which you were traveling was extreme to say the least (I am not trying to justify that) you were both professional and very respectful. I applaud you both for that. NNH, Huge fan and subscriber commenting on your professionalism in every video you post. I believe you made an extremely valid point and applaud your diligence in keeping all public officals accountable. Please, keep up the phenomenal work.
I agree they were polite and had no problem giving their names.And even admitted he was speeding. I get the feeling they will be a bit more conscious of their speed now. Great Catch NNH
They may have been professional but what's that matter when there's a family full of bodies in caskets because they were speeding almost 30 mph over the limit.
The point is they were receptive to what they were being told. People with this attitude are much more likely to change their behavior than someone with a "go fuck yourself" kind of attitude.
Thank you for your timely reply, Damon. I just hope that David reads this and realizes the can of worms that he is opening up that could lead to legal consequences down the road.
That’s a odd reaction to someone saying they were doing 85 mph over A 60 mph zone and thanks him for seeing it on UA-cam? I don’t think the city were he works will think it’s worth thanking....guess we’ll see...
The EMS guys were so professional and nice. They gave up their names and were really friendly. JUST SLOW DOWN!!! Hopefully they will learn their lesson and obey the speed limits. And only because they were cool with you David I hope they dont lose their job. I love your videos, keep up the great work.
Richard, let me get this straight. 2 wrongs make it right? Before you jump out with the bootlicker comments, don't bother. I do not support tyrant cops in any way, shape or form. I have been watching NNH for a few years and like what he does. That's not the issue here. By David speeding right along with this EMS truck at the same rate of speed (Excessive to say the least) for several miles, now increases the chances of a tragic accident even more. 2 X's as likely now. Good intentions gone wrong. IMHO.
i just watched Padilla get taken down for no reason, you catch them speeding like it was ok to do.... WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY HERE PEOPLE? $150k a year to be a crook & legally allowed to lie & abuse others
Clear highway,,, I think they were good to go for the conditions. Maybe coulda' slowed some approaching and passing other vehicles. Nobody was hurt and nobody's property was stolen or damaged.
In PA, speeds 0 to 49.99 mph, you are allotted 10 mph over the limit - except school zones. Speeds 50 mph and above, you are allotted 5 mph over the limit. :
Tyrants breaking the law in our nations capital, can't have evidence like that for the public to see. I was more then a little upset when it was removed 15 minutes after it was posted, not right! 😡
Sevehn Syth - okay since you want to micro-manage this... lets say I agree they broke no "laws" they sure broke "policy" then right, or do you disagree there are policies outlining speeds and procedures emergency vehicles are to use inside and outside of emergencies? BUT if we look at texas laws, we can see that they DID break laws, because they are only "exempt" under certain conditions, such as responding to an emergency call, the law however is not carte blanche for any scenario, they in fact do need to follow laws when returning back to the station, thats the part most folks don't seem to understand, emergency response vehicles are not exempt under all scenarios... they do in fact have to exercise due care when traveling in either scenario, and in this case, speeding excessively passing vehicles while not in an emergency is NOT covered by texas law... I know, you thought this was going to be an easy win for you, turns out you lost... www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/TN/htm/TN.546.htm read the whole thing, let it soak in, in order to be under color of law, they must operate under the exempt conditions such as lights and/or sirens for an emergency... absent that they are violating the permissible uses which means they are in fact violating the law... "exempt status" does not mean exempt from laws, it means exempt when the permissible uses are met, sometimes its for minor things like being able to park in a no parking spot while out on a call, sometimes its for being in front of a fire hydrant for the same reason, but police can't whizz around absent the emergency conditions, and the warning devices present and deployed to alert drivers... failure to do so turns them into any other vehicle on the road not under exempt conditions... same reason they should be buckling up outside those scenarios too, but we see so many drive around without them all the time declaring "just in case" right... thanks for learning something today, hopefully you did... in case you didn't I'll add a little more direct citation for you below from the above link in case you hate reading and dislike being challenged or think you interpreted something to mean something it does not... its quite clear and I don't think anyone can argue the below... excessive speeding is hardly "appropriate regard for the safety of all persons" they are speeding past, its just guys so used to getting away with speeding they want to get back to the station and play some cards... (nor is it safe for them, and they are included in "all persons") Sec. 546.005. DUTY OF CARE. This chapter does not relieve the operator of an authorized emergency vehicle from: (1) the duty to operate the vehicle with appropriate regard for the safety of all persons; or (2) the consequences of reckless disregard for the safety of others.
Sevehn Syth - I think you missed the critical thinking question... is an ambulance with no purpose doing 80+ in a 60 safer than an ambulance doing 60 in a 60... thats what the question and point is, they are unnecessarily taking risks, aka reckless driving, with no purpose other than to get back to the station to sit around... its not a matter of do they specifically mention emergency vs non-emergency, the law doesn't need to in order to compel them to follow it, as its worded, there are instances where permitted use is extended further than normal, but absent those circumstances the reigns are pulled back and applicable road laws apply... this is not a "subject to local laws" scenario, its clearly spelled out in state laws, local laws can't supersede state laws, they can place additional restrictions where state laws do not block it, but they can't remove state laws and replace it with local laws... thats the problem you seem to be struggling with as you've cited NO "local laws" in any county that would ever permit the state laws to be bypassed, you know why, because they can't which is why you simply won't find any local laws in texas to permit speeding for a non-emergency return back to the station to sit around and shoot the shit... P.S. bonus round, whats the leading killer of ambulance drivers... excessive speed... they can defy laws with lights and sirens, but they can't beat physics, physics always wins... same reason I crack down on officers without seat belts and their paranoia they will be harmed to a second delay taking a belt off, I sure won't cut any slack to ambulance drivers for speed or seat belts... do you know how much it costs tax payers on average when one of them dies to stupidity like this, roughly a million dollars a head when you add up all the expenses of paying off spouses, medical and funeral expenses, and replacing that employees estimated time left with a whole new set of salaries and benefits for the next guy... so don't think this is of genuine concern for his safety, its for my wallet and taxes... thats the brutal truth...
Sevehn Syth - you're approaching the question and legalities from a biased standpoint based on trade magazines and what your peers tell you is fact, every professional suffers from that tunnel vision, including attorneys... when we step back and I pointed out the question should not be whether an emergency vehicle travel at 80 with lights on or off was wrong and the real question should be is 80 or 60 safer, you seem to have spun into the typical deflect and pivot response I see from anyone who didn't think it through as is simply hashing up common talking points among peers... thats why I pointed it out... I get it, you have 24 years of experience, you also have 24 years of bias from peers, which is why you should acknowledge that yes a vehicle traveling at 60 is safer than a vehicle traveling at 80+ whether it has lights on or not... its also why I pointed out the leading killer of ambulance drivers being speed, now that is a general point comprised of many parts including speed from emergency responses, speed from slowing down to intersections or not, speed from coming back after a run without any emergency lights at all, yes, accidents do happen related to speed even after the fact, which is why its the leading killer of ambulance drivers... thats why its high for officers, its why even firefighters are now being made to wear seat belts, especially in some engines that came without them prior to changes and thoughts on the subject years ago, showing that extra second to unlatch made little to no difference in outcome... hence why I assume you pointed out your example of outcome not being impacted greatly in certain response times... the law is pretty black and white, there does not need in texas to be a local rule, because the state laws supersede any such local ordinance that would permit speeding back after a run, which is why you will NEVER find a city with such an ordinance outlining that its okay or lawful to speed back just to go sit around... the laws sometimes seem vague and subjective, what I cited was not, it quite clearly drew a line in the sand over exempt status not being carte blanche and does in fact apply to emergency responders after the fact... the only reason you don't see this pressed more often is because its rare for an officer to pull over a speeding ambulance, and you would be even more hard pressed to find a prosecutor willing to take THAT case even if its deserved... its one of those "swept under the rug" incidents handled internally, where a department might send a message over to the chief of the other and say hey tell your guys to slow down we're getting complaints and we can only do so much before we HAVE to make an example"... thats the cold hard reality of this, which is why I am such an advocate for cameras, because you simply can't sweep them all under the rugs and protect each other, the walls of protection are coming down every day and soon government employees will have to be just as accountable as the citizens, or the citizens will revolt and punish them either monetarily or demand swift and harsh correction to those who do violate... but I get it, the myth for generations has been exempt means exempt from all, thats never been true, its just rarely tested and prosecuted... the good ole boys club...
Sevehn Syth - you basically are proving my point, but you seem to keep arguing it... your own city attorney confirmed it, there "may" but not carte blanche... like I said, there is no justification to excessive speeding, which at those speeds is reckless driving, just to get back to the station to sit around and play cards or to punch out... give me the name/number of who you spoke with in the office so I can call to see just how different a response I will get calling from a law firm and ask for his position in writing on this... I suspect like many times we will see just how different the internal and external communications are on matters like this, which is also my point... like I said... you'd be hard pressed to find an officer willing to pull you over, and even harder pressed to find a prosecutor willing to convict you... the city attorney is paid to find excuses and subjective interpretations, civil attorneys are paid to enforce actual law... law is law, the city attorney is paid to protect the city, not punish it... bias... P.S. just to extend this a little, how can we have videos of officers pulled over in marked vehicles for speeding in other counties if there "may" be valid reasons for speeding, yet every time we get a video like that, its never a good reason, because if it were a good reason, it would be lights and sirens or they would have to exercise all that care in following laws for non-emergencies... ;)
Hypocritical would be if he speeds all the time. Necessary in this case, so, no. And yes, he spoke to the driver, face to face, to further identify the problem.
So a 20 year old speeding, was worth you speeding behind him, now you want to educate the Utube viewers in quatitative methods conveying shallow stats relative to pickup truck/EMS vehicles? You are an enabeller, next time write a citation, or take him to jail for reckless driving, then answere stacked 911 calls on your MDT ( mobile data terminal) , but your utilizing city government time & property for personal gain, derelecting your official duty as a peace officer/public servant, now you want the public ,at large, to understand your oxymoronic absurdities? Do you realize you're building a case against yourself, at the same time advertising your IQ to your colleagues, viewers, these kids, plus you set yourself & the city up, for a federal law suit, by using offical city property to slander, deliberately create physical & mental duress on these youngsters, by putting this on social media? Additionally, the traffickers are all going to utilize bogus vehicles like this , to toy with you, while they traffic their commodities via your jurisdiction, maybe you heard of it ? It's called "COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE".
Those were not cops. that is for damn sure . nice and respectful of everything except the speed limit. Ps- the posted speed limit is a suggestion unless you hold a valid drivers licence. holding a licence demands you obey the obligation of said licence. IT IS WHY YOU GOT IT IN THE FIST PLACE ! ! ! ! You gave up your rights for allowed privileges. By Consent . . . . . yours .
Teaching Accountability I like it David. Broadening your horizon. Let's make everyone accountable for their actions.. no one is above the law.. Thanks for your hard work.
Why do you make these pointless videos. And why do you feel the need to harass public servants. I am a public servant and most of my friends are too, and we all know the dangers of speeding because we have seen it first hand. Being a paramedic you have to drive well above the speed limit quite regularly, it just becomes second nature. And in small towns like La Porte and Deer Park that late at night, you are not putting a very big risk on the public. Trust me I'm from Deer Park, and 146 at that time of night has extremely low traffic
Thank you Sir for your service. Nice to see a real patriot, keep it up please. If ever in Northeastern Oklahoma and need support of any kind, hit me up! We could sure use some auditors our way! I'm from Claremore,Ok and I'm sure you've seen our post office audit. Thanks again Sir.
They had 2 simple options: 1)do the speed limit 2)use the emergency lights Using lights would still be an abuse of the emergency lights but the citizens would have been a little safer. Only decent part was that they provided names , but I got the impression they weren’t worried about any repercussions for their dangerous actions.
I'm in rural EMS. The journalist probably doesn't know all the facts. The hospitals we transport to are in a different county and we are the only on duty crew. So we actually do speed to get back in the county to wait for more calls. That and we just enjoy speeding too. If we driving well above the speed limit a cop won't pull us over but will actually contact our boss the next day
They flat out do not care. I am also a driver for a rescue squad and this is a violation of the qualified privilege the all emergency personnel have and can be ticketed for it but you see the thin blue line is extended to the thin red line. While there have been a few instances of police holding fire and emergency personnel accountable it is frowned on. These guys WILL be in trouble with their Chief and will probably be suspended. If more people do as you do David there might be change. You are making a difference!! Check this out I on way to work one morning and this Maryland State Trooper went around me at a red light and went into the gas station with his emergency lights on then turned them off. I was going to that gas station anyway and thought there was a silent alarm. Turns out he was just going to get his car washed. The look on his face when I asked if that was the proper use of his qualified privilege? All I got was a blank stare!!!!
A couple weeks I had an aid car come up behind me as I was doing 30 mph in a 30 mph zone. I estimate they were doing 50 mph. They were returning to the station after a run to the hospital. So, I went to the station and called them out. I hate that these "Public Servants" drive so aggressively. They are a hazard to us and themselves.
Deputies and police officers here in Escambia County Florida/Pensacola seem to think traffic laws don’t apply to them either. That’s a huge pet peeve of mine. Got a ticket for honking my horn at speeding deputy Matthew Housam on his way to work a few months back. That same deputy was just involved in an accident with injuries last week. He was running with lights and siren this time but didn’t even make an attempt to slow down at the intersection to give other drivers a chance to react according to witnesses.
You're the man. That cop had to know you was pacing him. The question I have for you is how do you keep your big brass balls from clanging together when you walk? Great job as always.
I’m assuming the thumbs down were from them. And probably family and friends. They didn’t seem to concerned about being on UA-cam. Def not law enforcement then.
Real talk though in Texas its kind of an unwritten rule that as long as you're not driving recklessly youre all good. These guys were driving just fine. Remember theres a left lane for a reason. You wanna drive 60 in a 60 thats fine but do it in the right lane.
Damn...those guys were very nice. Some times cops let you off with a warning if you are polite/nice. These guys should get a pass too. Thank you for not writing them a ticket.
I love what you do David, fully support it, I wish i could do something to help, I cant help much financially and not nearly as well versed with the law, but i'll find some way, thank you!
They are always flying like maniacs here in Louisiana too. Here in Metairie there's a few ahole cops who will through on the lights just to get through a red light in traffic then turn them off as soon as they pass the light. I tried to follow one around Christmas time, but he was too far ahead of me since I was still stuck in traffic at the light. I wanted to get his plate so damn bad! No emergencies!
if he kills himself i'm fine with that. but he goes out of control and kills some innocent people, thats a whole different story. he needs to think about how his future would be in that situation. accidents happen when people do everything right, dont increase the odds by driving stupid.
What are you talkin bout bro. In Texas we add 20 to the speed limit sign. Standard Texas procedure is to drive 20 over until you end up behind someone who isnt. You then proceed to ride ass until they are
30 yrs as a ff/medic. I always called in company vehicles behaving badly, i mean really bad, but i also called in the true professionals also. Good Job brother
They were wrong and didn't try to talk their way out of it, answered David's questions professionally, and David was a class act as usual. Hope the guys heed the heads up.
Dang David, find I hate to see you get these guys raked over the coals. The response from them we see so often is to go after the person trying to hold them accountable put you in jail. Considering they didn't do that, and they were polite and courteous, these might be the best to cops in the state of Texas.
Just like they have a citizen arrest law, they should make citizen speeding tickets where citizens can issue a speeding ticket to a cop... and while they're at it, throw in parking tickets as well.
Was there a person following you that told you to stop speeding because you could cause an accident? Please let me know if they have a youtube channel. Thanks.
Hi David, if you broadcast your own speed does that not give the police evidence to prosecute you as well? You did it in a good cause but I doubt the court will excuse that.
Very cordial encounter. Just managed to watch the Washington video before it went to UA-cam gaol. Lol. The thug wanted to speak but didn’t want to listen. He’d have been curled up crying on the floor if he’d have had that attitude with some of the more vociferous auditors. Lol.
See we post in areas at times out from our main stations specially when high call volumes areas to reduce response time.You rather have a medic asap even when it's a ten to fifteen minute response. Some ems dept post units to reduce that time and if a on coming crew needs vehicle I can see it happening but if they where just hauling but to get off that is wrong.
I can just imagine calling police non emer and telling them then literally seeing the pig pulling to the right, waiting for you to pass, then pulling you over.
Looks as if your speeding to so what's the big deal
Thank you for confronting them in a very civil and respectful manner, Dave. I hope they understand why they shouldn't speed.
Good interaction... it's good to see respect from all sides and government entities being held accountable. Professional as always David :)
And it would be nice if we did not have to take people to hospitals out side of our jurisdiction, it's one thing if it is a emergency specialist facility and another if pop who stumped his toe might ve broke but not life threatening refuses local er because he doesn't like them but wants to go two counties over because some areas have laws states patient can go where he wants even if it takes the only ems ambulance out of a area is just stupid mismanagement of resources and bad use of a law.
To the men in the EMS VEHICLE, Although the speed in which you were traveling was extreme to say the least (I am not trying to justify that) you were both professional and very respectful. I applaud you both for that. NNH, Huge fan and subscriber commenting on your professionalism in every video you post. I believe you made an extremely valid point and applaud your diligence in keeping all public officals accountable. Please, keep up the phenomenal work.
I agree.
I agree they were polite and had no problem giving their names.And even admitted he was speeding. I get the feeling they will be a bit more conscious of their speed now. Great Catch NNH
They may have been professional but what's that matter when there's a family full of bodies in caskets because they were speeding almost 30 mph over the limit.
The point is they were receptive to what they were being told. People with this attitude are much more likely to change their behavior than someone with a "go fuck yourself" kind of attitude.
Richard Lotto I believe David was speeding also , just saying
That chief should be proud of his boys admitting fault right away. Honesty goes far.
Yeah, they looked all broke up about it and shaking in their boots for fear of the consequences.
Didn’t seem like it was bothering them at all
Question: if you are following a speeding public vehicle at the same rate, could you be legally charged?
Thank you for your timely reply, Damon. I just hope that David reads this and realizes the can of worms that he is opening up that could lead to legal consequences down the road.
That’s a odd reaction to someone saying they were doing 85 mph over A 60 mph zone and thanks him for seeing it on UA-cam? I don’t think the city were he works will think it’s worth thanking....guess we’ll see...
The EMS guys were so professional and nice. They gave up their names and were really friendly. JUST SLOW DOWN!!! Hopefully they will learn their lesson and obey the speed limits. And only because they were cool with you David I hope they dont lose their job. I love your videos, keep up the great work.
Hopefully he learned his lesson and won't do that again. Nice to not see the other side get upset at you for them being in the wrong.
PizzaPete1958 nobody gives a shit if he was speeding, everyone speeds , unless your 90 years old smdh
richard cranium that was a paramedic speeding not a cop you moron
richard cranium boot licker lol , I like that , I guess your mama wears army boots smdh
Richard, let me get this straight. 2 wrongs make it right? Before you jump out with the bootlicker comments, don't bother. I do not support tyrant cops in any way, shape or form. I have been watching NNH for a few years and like what he does. That's not the issue here. By David speeding right along with this EMS truck at the same rate of speed (Excessive to say the least) for several miles, now increases the chances of a tragic accident even more. 2 X's as likely now. Good intentions gone wrong. IMHO.
H3llRayzor he was a paramedic not a cop if he gets killed he can take care of himself and provide first aid
Right on, keep holding them accountable, MUCH RESPECT from Missouri
i just watched Padilla get taken down for no reason, you catch them speeding like it was ok to do....
WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY HERE PEOPLE? $150k a year to be a crook & legally allowed to lie & abuse others
Clear highway,,, I think they were good to go for the conditions.
Maybe coulda' slowed some approaching and passing other vehicles.
Nobody was hurt and nobody's property was stolen or damaged.
In PA, speeds 0 to 49.99 mph, you are allotted 10 mph over the limit - except school zones.
Speeds 50 mph and above, you are allotted 5 mph over the limit.
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+Sevehn Syth
...and you are telling me this because?!
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Another example of public servants not giving a shit. He knows there will be no consequences that's why he was so cocky.
We should have the autobahn here in the States anyway. If the Germans can do it.... So can we!
You've got to admit, they were very polite and professional when confronted.
What the hell happened to your other video?!
Tyrants breaking the law in our nations capital, can't have evidence like that for the public to see. I was more then a little upset when it was removed 15 minutes after it was posted, not right! 😡
It's magic! At least we got to see it
Can you upload it? I'd like to see it.
Maybe Popo don't like looking like a Bozo
Theresa's channel ua-cam.com/video/76hBow4hxsA/v-deo.html
Awesome
I am a huge speeders. As long as you are driving safe for the current road and weather conditions. You can drive whatever speed you want. US Autobahn.
But only SOME are privileged to drive that fast and get away with it.
when they don't seem worried a bit they got caught breaking the law, its a sign they need more monitoring until they are...
Let's hope they stop or they'll be increasing that statistic.
Sevehn Syth - okay since you want to micro-manage this... lets say I agree they broke no "laws" they sure broke "policy" then right, or do you disagree there are policies outlining speeds and procedures emergency vehicles are to use inside and outside of emergencies? BUT if we look at texas laws, we can see that they DID break laws, because they are only "exempt" under certain conditions, such as responding to an emergency call, the law however is not carte blanche for any scenario, they in fact do need to follow laws when returning back to the station, thats the part most folks don't seem to understand, emergency response vehicles are not exempt under all scenarios... they do in fact have to exercise due care when traveling in either scenario, and in this case, speeding excessively passing vehicles while not in an emergency is NOT covered by texas law... I know, you thought this was going to be an easy win for you, turns out you lost...
www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/TN/htm/TN.546.htm
read the whole thing, let it soak in, in order to be under color of law, they must operate under the exempt conditions such as lights and/or sirens for an emergency... absent that they are violating the permissible uses which means they are in fact violating the law... "exempt status" does not mean exempt from laws, it means exempt when the permissible uses are met, sometimes its for minor things like being able to park in a no parking spot while out on a call, sometimes its for being in front of a fire hydrant for the same reason, but police can't whizz around absent the emergency conditions, and the warning devices present and deployed to alert drivers... failure to do so turns them into any other vehicle on the road not under exempt conditions... same reason they should be buckling up outside those scenarios too, but we see so many drive around without them all the time declaring "just in case" right...
thanks for learning something today, hopefully you did... in case you didn't I'll add a little more direct citation for you below from the above link in case you hate reading and dislike being challenged or think you interpreted something to mean something it does not... its quite clear and I don't think anyone can argue the below... excessive speeding is hardly "appropriate regard for the safety of all persons" they are speeding past, its just guys so used to getting away with speeding they want to get back to the station and play some cards... (nor is it safe for them, and they are included in "all persons")
Sec. 546.005. DUTY OF CARE. This chapter does not relieve the operator of an authorized emergency vehicle from:
(1) the duty to operate the vehicle with appropriate regard for the safety of all persons; or (2) the consequences of reckless disregard for the safety of others.
Sevehn Syth - I think you missed the critical thinking question... is an ambulance with no purpose doing 80+ in a 60 safer than an ambulance doing 60 in a 60... thats what the question and point is, they are unnecessarily taking risks, aka reckless driving, with no purpose other than to get back to the station to sit around...
its not a matter of do they specifically mention emergency vs non-emergency, the law doesn't need to in order to compel them to follow it, as its worded, there are instances where permitted use is extended further than normal, but absent those circumstances the reigns are pulled back and applicable road laws apply...
this is not a "subject to local laws" scenario, its clearly spelled out in state laws, local laws can't supersede state laws, they can place additional restrictions where state laws do not block it, but they can't remove state laws and replace it with local laws... thats the problem you seem to be struggling with as you've cited NO "local laws" in any county that would ever permit the state laws to be bypassed, you know why, because they can't which is why you simply won't find any local laws in texas to permit speeding for a non-emergency return back to the station to sit around and shoot the shit...
P.S. bonus round, whats the leading killer of ambulance drivers... excessive speed... they can defy laws with lights and sirens, but they can't beat physics, physics always wins... same reason I crack down on officers without seat belts and their paranoia they will be harmed to a second delay taking a belt off, I sure won't cut any slack to ambulance drivers for speed or seat belts... do you know how much it costs tax payers on average when one of them dies to stupidity like this, roughly a million dollars a head when you add up all the expenses of paying off spouses, medical and funeral expenses, and replacing that employees estimated time left with a whole new set of salaries and benefits for the next guy... so don't think this is of genuine concern for his safety, its for my wallet and taxes... thats the brutal truth...
Sevehn Syth - you're approaching the question and legalities from a biased standpoint based on trade magazines and what your peers tell you is fact, every professional suffers from that tunnel vision, including attorneys... when we step back and I pointed out the question should not be whether an emergency vehicle travel at 80 with lights on or off was wrong and the real question should be is 80 or 60 safer, you seem to have spun into the typical deflect and pivot response I see from anyone who didn't think it through as is simply hashing up common talking points among peers... thats why I pointed it out...
I get it, you have 24 years of experience, you also have 24 years of bias from peers, which is why you should acknowledge that yes a vehicle traveling at 60 is safer than a vehicle traveling at 80+ whether it has lights on or not... its also why I pointed out the leading killer of ambulance drivers being speed, now that is a general point comprised of many parts including speed from emergency responses, speed from slowing down to intersections or not, speed from coming back after a run without any emergency lights at all, yes, accidents do happen related to speed even after the fact, which is why its the leading killer of ambulance drivers... thats why its high for officers, its why even firefighters are now being made to wear seat belts, especially in some engines that came without them prior to changes and thoughts on the subject years ago, showing that extra second to unlatch made little to no difference in outcome... hence why I assume you pointed out your example of outcome not being impacted greatly in certain response times...
the law is pretty black and white, there does not need in texas to be a local rule, because the state laws supersede any such local ordinance that would permit speeding back after a run, which is why you will NEVER find a city with such an ordinance outlining that its okay or lawful to speed back just to go sit around... the laws sometimes seem vague and subjective, what I cited was not, it quite clearly drew a line in the sand over exempt status not being carte blanche and does in fact apply to emergency responders after the fact...
the only reason you don't see this pressed more often is because its rare for an officer to pull over a speeding ambulance, and you would be even more hard pressed to find a prosecutor willing to take THAT case even if its deserved... its one of those "swept under the rug" incidents handled internally, where a department might send a message over to the chief of the other and say hey tell your guys to slow down we're getting complaints and we can only do so much before we HAVE to make an example"... thats the cold hard reality of this, which is why I am such an advocate for cameras, because you simply can't sweep them all under the rugs and protect each other, the walls of protection are coming down every day and soon government employees will have to be just as accountable as the citizens, or the citizens will revolt and punish them either monetarily or demand swift and harsh correction to those who do violate...
but I get it, the myth for generations has been exempt means exempt from all, thats never been true, its just rarely tested and prosecuted... the good ole boys club...
Sevehn Syth - you basically are proving my point, but you seem to keep arguing it... your own city attorney confirmed it, there "may" but not carte blanche... like I said, there is no justification to excessive speeding, which at those speeds is reckless driving, just to get back to the station to sit around and play cards or to punch out...
give me the name/number of who you spoke with in the office so I can call to see just how different a response I will get calling from a law firm and ask for his position in writing on this... I suspect like many times we will see just how different the internal and external communications are on matters like this, which is also my point...
like I said... you'd be hard pressed to find an officer willing to pull you over, and even harder pressed to find a prosecutor willing to convict you... the city attorney is paid to find excuses and subjective interpretations, civil attorneys are paid to enforce actual law... law is law, the city attorney is paid to protect the city, not punish it... bias...
P.S. just to extend this a little, how can we have videos of officers pulled over in marked vehicles for speeding in other counties if there "may" be valid reasons for speeding, yet every time we get a video like that, its never a good reason, because if it were a good reason, it would be lights and sirens or they would have to exercise all that care in following laws for non-emergencies... ;)
Thank you David for keeping them in check.
David our Auditors are locked up James and Mexican, someone needs to organize
A bit Hypocritical , perhaps..?? How could you possibly keep up with the Vehicle..? And you have something to say to that Driver..???
Hypocritical would be if he speeds all the time. Necessary in this case, so, no. And yes, he spoke to the driver, face to face, to further identify the problem.
Speed limit signs in texas only apply to commercial vehicles.
Yes I was speeding and your point would be what, or yeah, laws don’t apply to us ignorant civilian.
And they don't care, because there's no accountability.....
sad encounter , but still stayed professional as officers should do...
*The municipal units you catch speeding is SHOCKING to me. We absolutely do not see that take place in my area in this state*
Wow he admitted it and didn't try to assault and arrest you that is amazing. good job man.
So a 20 year old speeding, was worth you speeding behind him, now you want to educate the Utube viewers in quatitative methods conveying shallow stats relative to pickup truck/EMS vehicles? You are an enabeller, next time write a citation, or take him to jail for reckless driving, then answere stacked 911 calls on your MDT ( mobile data terminal) , but your utilizing city government time & property for personal gain, derelecting your official duty as a peace officer/public servant, now you want the public ,at large, to understand your oxymoronic absurdities? Do you realize you're building a case against yourself, at the same time advertising your IQ to your colleagues, viewers, these kids, plus you set yourself & the city up, for a federal law suit, by using offical city property to slander, deliberately create physical & mental duress on these youngsters, by putting this on social media? Additionally, the traffickers are all going to utilize bogus vehicles like this , to toy with you, while they traffic their commodities via your jurisdiction, maybe you heard of it ? It's called "COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE".
Those were not cops. that is for damn sure .
nice and respectful of everything except the speed limit.
Ps- the posted speed limit is a suggestion unless you hold a valid drivers licence. holding a licence demands you obey the obligation of said licence. IT IS WHY YOU GOT IT IN THE FIST PLACE ! ! ! !
You gave up your rights for allowed privileges. By Consent . . . . . yours .
Teaching Accountability I like it David. Broadening your horizon. Let's make everyone accountable for their actions.. no one is above the law.. Thanks for your hard work.
Why do you make these pointless videos. And why do you feel the need to harass public servants. I am a public servant and most of my friends are too, and we all know the dangers of speeding because we have seen it first hand. Being a paramedic you have to drive well above the speed limit quite regularly, it just becomes second nature. And in small towns like La Porte and Deer Park that late at night, you are not putting a very big risk on the public. Trust me I'm from Deer Park, and 146 at that time of night has extremely low traffic
Thank you Sir for your service. Nice to see a real patriot, keep it up please. If ever in Northeastern Oklahoma and need support of any kind, hit me up! We could sure use some auditors our way! I'm from Claremore,Ok and I'm sure you've seen our post office audit. Thanks again Sir.
They had 2 simple options:
1)do the speed limit
2)use the emergency lights
Using lights would still be an abuse of the emergency lights but the citizens would have been a little safer.
Only decent part was that they provided names , but I got the impression they weren’t worried about any repercussions for their dangerous actions.
I'm in rural EMS. The journalist probably doesn't know all the facts. The hospitals we transport to are in a different county and we are the only on duty crew. So we actually do speed to get back in the county to wait for more calls.
That and we just enjoy speeding too. If we driving well above the speed limit a cop won't pull us over but will actually contact our boss the next day
They flat out do not care. I am also a driver for a rescue squad and this is a violation of the qualified privilege the all emergency personnel have and can be ticketed for it but you see the thin blue line is extended to the thin red line. While there have been a few instances of police holding fire and emergency personnel accountable it is frowned on. These guys WILL be in trouble with their Chief and will probably be suspended. If more people do as you do David there might be change. You are making a difference!! Check this out I on way to work one morning and this Maryland State Trooper went around me at a red light and went into the gas station with his emergency lights on then turned them off. I was going to that gas station anyway and thought there was a silent alarm. Turns out he was just going to get his car washed. The look on his face when I asked if that was the proper use of his qualified privilege? All I got was a blank stare!!!!
A couple weeks I had an aid car come up behind me as I was doing 30 mph in a 30 mph zone. I estimate they were doing 50 mph. They were returning to the station after a run to the hospital.
So, I went to the station and called them out.
I hate that these "Public Servants" drive so aggressively. They are a hazard to us and themselves.
Deputies and police officers here in Escambia County Florida/Pensacola seem to think traffic laws don’t apply to them either. That’s a huge pet peeve of mine. Got a ticket for honking my horn at speeding deputy Matthew Housam on his way to work a few months back. That same deputy was just involved in an accident with injuries last week. He was running with lights and siren this time but didn’t even make an attempt to slow down at the intersection to give other drivers a chance to react according to witnesses.
you KNOW these fire/ambulance/leos ALL flagrantly disobey traffic laws to THEIR advantage..what can you do? seems like a lost cause
You're the man. That cop had to know you was pacing him. The question I have for you is how do you keep your big brass balls from clanging together when you walk? Great job as always.
I'm an EMT. I used to work for Baltimore City fire department. I now work private. No emergency, no speeding. What's the rush?
I’m assuming the thumbs down were from them. And probably family and friends. They didn’t seem to concerned about being on UA-cam. Def not law enforcement then.
Real talk though in Texas its kind of an unwritten rule that as long as you're not driving recklessly youre all good. These guys were driving just fine. Remember theres a left lane for a reason. You wanna drive 60 in a 60 thats fine but do it in the right lane.
Damn...those guys were very nice. Some times cops let you off with a warning if you are polite/nice. These guys should get a pass too. Thank you for not writing them a ticket.
I love what you do David, fully support it, I wish i could do something to help, I cant help much financially and not nearly as well versed with the law, but i'll find some way, thank you!
what happened at J HOOVER BUILDING VIDEO? WON'T LOAD UP.?????
They are always flying like maniacs here in Louisiana too. Here in Metairie there's a few ahole cops who will through on the lights just to get through a red light in traffic then turn them off as soon as they pass the light. I tried to follow one around Christmas time, but he was too far ahead of me since I was still stuck in traffic at the light. I wanted to get his plate so damn bad! No emergencies!
if he kills himself i'm fine with that.
but he goes out of control and kills some innocent people, thats a whole different story.
he needs to think about how his future would be in that situation.
accidents happen when people do everything right, dont increase the odds by driving stupid.
The biggest problem is not that their unlawful behavior kills them, but that their unlawful behavior kills innocent law abiding citizens as well.
What are you talkin bout bro. In Texas we add 20 to the speed limit sign. Standard Texas procedure is to drive 20 over until you end up behind someone who isnt. You then proceed to ride ass until they are
30 yrs as a ff/medic. I always called in company vehicles behaving badly, i mean really bad, but i also called in the true professionals also. Good Job brother
You can tell this isn't in CA...everyone would be doing 80...and nobody would use a blinker to change lanes.
They were wrong and didn't try to talk their way out of it, answered David's questions professionally, and David was a class act as usual. Hope the guys heed the heads up.
"Oh, we were coming back from a call."
And what's the dept policy on travel speeds when returning from calls?
Dang David, find I hate to see you get these guys raked over the coals. The response from them we see so often is to go after the person trying to hold them accountable put you in jail. Considering they didn't do that, and they were polite and courteous, these might be the best to cops in the state of Texas.
I think that's the first time I've heard you say your channel name to someone. Cheers
Just like they have a citizen arrest law, they should make citizen speeding tickets where citizens can issue a speeding ticket to a cop... and while they're at it, throw in parking tickets as well.
Was there a person following you that told you to stop speeding because you could cause an accident? Please let me know if they have a youtube channel. Thanks.
"what channel" (oh shit am i fucked?)
News Now Houston (Crap! If i'm lucky I wont have to change states)
Hi David, if you broadcast your own speed does that not give the police evidence to prosecute you as well? You did it in a good cause but I doubt the court will excuse that.
Very cordial encounter.
Just managed to watch the Washington video before it went to UA-cam gaol. Lol.
The thug wanted to speak but didn’t want to listen. He’d have been curled up crying on the floor if he’d have had that attitude with some of the more vociferous auditors. Lol.
See we post in areas at times out from our main stations specially when high call volumes areas to reduce response time.You rather have a medic asap even when it's a ten to fifteen minute response. Some ems dept post units to reduce that time and if a on coming crew needs vehicle I can see it happening but if they where just hauling but to get off that is wrong.
The J.Edgar Hoover FBI building video is gone already smh
GOOD JOB DAVID. IN WASHINGTON STATE WE CAN ONLY GO 20 MPH OVER SPEED LIMIT RUNNING CODE. STAY SAFE AND PLEASE STAY CLOSER TO THE SPEED LIMIT. 😁🤙
I hope you follow this guy and pull him over and make a citizen's arrest
5:21 I know they are in the "wrong" but I felt their behavior was fine during the interacts fine ID and not denial.
I can just imagine calling police non emer and telling them then literally seeing the pig pulling to the right, waiting for you to pass, then pulling you over.
Not sure you'll be getting 2 new subscriber's......😀
But you speeding wasn't illegal? Smh....
Won't they say you were driving illegally like us? I'd do the same though.
They were very polite seem like they understood I give him a pass. As long as they don't do it again
They were quite nice for being confronted with their speeding and realized their error.
Other than the speeding, those guys were very polite and respectful.
I get it ,, but two wrongs don't make it right.. still love your videos
Hopefully those boys learned their lesson...well done David.
Takes a bigger man to admit he was doing wrong and owning up to it than making excuses!
This worked, but remember that it is the slower of two rabbits that the fox catches :)
Nope....he could not give a rats ass that he was a lawbreaker
Pointless exercise .How much notice will they take of your concern?
Just gotta stop another 115 million speeders and we b ok.
great job on educating these young men that are so important to a community Thank You
I agree that arrest should be avoided at all cost and good judgment makes a good auditor
I think you just picked up 2 new subscribers. Lol
Take a look at your own speed, now you made the speeding twice as dangerous.
Didn't seem like they gave two shits about it....
I admire their honesty and being polite under stress.
Good thing they don't carry Tasers or pistols.
Great to see you continuing to tout the #below100 message.
Good one, 1SG. Get them boys straight.
Good day
Is this the same post that was taken down earlier today?
Where did the g Edgar Hoover building Vid go?
What happened to your video yesterday??
What do you use as your dash cam? Really like it.
Only David could pull that one off.
What dash cam is this? @News Now Houston
Didnt take long for your fbi video to go down