This hat design has been well known as an iconic piece of New Zealand military history. The NZ expeditionary forces wore them during the Gallipoli campaign in WWI
I really would have liked a campaign style hat when I was a scout master, but the troop's traditional one that it passed down wasn't cared for properly, and the boys never chose to replace ir. And troop tradition was a SM didn't buy his own.
Thank you Santee for the great history lesson: You did know that the misses, gets to have twice as many shoes as you do hats? Hehehe. Have a great weekend.
A side note re: the "campaign hat": Our American hat has its four ridges/creases on the four Principal compass points (N, E, S & W) Or if you prefer by the clock - 12, 3, 6, and 9 O'clock). British hats, like the Mounties wear, are on an "X" pattern, i.e. 2, 4, 8, and 10 O'clock.
Not completely true... The New Zealand Army, very much organised in the British style, issue a similar ‘lemon squeezer’ hat, which is worn in the US fashion. Tradition provides it was designed to mirror the outline of Mount Taranaki.@@ArizonaGhostriders
I'm very fond of hats and over the years I've collected many. Most of the time i wear hats of practicality but I'm still looking for a cowboy hat that really looks good on me. A vanity hat. Great video Santee.
WOW, so much for thinking a cowboy hat was just a cowboy hat! I had no idea there were so many types, and sizes. This was so cool, and interesting, Santee. As usual, I love the added visuals, and audios, as well. 👏🏻🤠👏🏻
The campaign hat has always been my piece of headwear. Ever since I first learned of its existence when learning about the U.S. military prior to world war 1, I've had an unending fascination with this hat. So much so, that the character in my profile picture (a world war 1 era U.S. marine) is even wearing one himself! Heck, I even got one for myself on my 17th birthday though, unfortunately, it couldn't fit my massive head. I hope to save up enough money to, one day, buy one that will actually fit me that I can wear with honor. Thank you, Santee old chum, for making this video.
You must have missed when I said, "It's still in commission today," which covers the armed services, state troopers, and park rangers who wear them (I even showed a Canadian Mountie).
I think I spotted The Grey Fox in there. Underrated gem of a western. I've usually favored a creased crown, myself, but maybe there's something to the old lemon squeezer look, especially with those deep indents on yours. Something about the little divots I usually see never sat right with me.
My nephew is in the RCMP and yep, that is still part of the uniform and I believe Stetson makes it for them. Got to try it on but his head is a bit smaller than mine(or I have a swelled head).
@@ArizonaGhostriders they mention on the RCMP site that Biltmore Stetson Canada makes them today but John B Stetson Comp made them for years in a special factory here in Canada.
That hat looks great on you. I personally wear the lemon squeezer campaign hat on my fishing and hunting excursions in North Idaho. I have even worn it deep sea fishing down in Mexico since it has a strap. The Akubra slouch is a perfect hat for a lemon squeezer bash, makes for a well proportioned campaign hat.
Looking good in your new hat there, Santee. I hadn't realised the practicality of the 'lemon squeezer' style in getting the rain off your hat. Thanks for that. I saw a couple of people in the photographs wearing peaked caps, also know as the flat cap. I happen to have one like that and it also just so happens it was made by Stetson.
There is a great modern "fusion" style straw hat called the sombrero style straw hat - normal crown and very wide sides to protect from sun. They used yo to be difficult to find but are now are online. I keep my old discolored one lubricated and on a stand. A stampede string is really functional in the wind. Thanks again to Santee for dropping the old stereotypes to expose the great variety of "lids".
My Mojave Desert camping and jeeping hat for decades was an old, original Army campaign hat I bought at an antique store in the 1970's. And I still have my straw cowboy hat I bought in Laramie WYO in 1962.
This is perfect timing. I just ordered a vintage Boy Scout campaign hat off of eBay! The hat doesn’t have a size tag so really hoping the seller measured it correctly!
I bought a brand new one at the Base Camp store at Philmont, and then two weeks of monsoon marching and climbing in the Sangre de Cristos turned it into a boonie hat.
Can't agree with you more, Santee! Can never have enough hats and have several. Can ya tell I'm single? The Montana Peak is a great style and I do have one. Another great video! Thank you!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Jealous? I am. I've only got five. Six, if you count the ornate sombrero I bought at a truck stop near Laredo, but I've never worn it; it's just for decoration.
We had an old campaign hat in our family that my great grandfather wore on the Pancho Villa punitive raid. He was a Major in Cuba, we've got his 30/40 Krag, my brother also has his M1911 from WW1, he was a Brig General in the AEF, l don't know if he carried it when he was hunting Pancho. He was in the Ohio National Gaurd, l can find all kinds of history about him from the Wars, have a lot of his letters, a lot of it with AEF letterheads, but not much about Panchos ill fated hunt. Wikepedia says he went on it, and family lore, but l think I'm going to attempt to dig deeper
@@ArizonaGhostriders l started off with the campaign hat and then rambled, the old man, the General, was by all accounts an interesting man, humble, dedicated, old school. In the early 60s my dad was stationed in France, we got to tour the battlefields, check out where his granddad and uncle served.
Lee Marvin wore that hat in almost every Western he made, with two notable exceptions - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance and Paint Your Wagon. When he was Kid Shelleen in Cat Ballou, he had the Liberty Valance type hat, but his evil twin Tim Strawn wore the campaign hat. That makes it a pretty cool hat.
Yes best for shedding rain. Defeated again by the addition of a pencil roll. There seem to have been several parallel streams of evolution of broad-brimmed headgear in operation during the 1800s. We should not forget the contribution of the Mexican sombrero, which had a rich evolution going back to the colonial era when even Anglo pilgrims wore such headgear. Hell, even Dutch pilgrims: take a look at any image of Peter Stuyvesant. The classic oversized "ten gallon" with the canted bash, angled wings, and sloping back brim is no coincidence or fashion statement. Such shapes evolved on the open ranges where protection from the sun vied with stability in the wind and even then you needed a chinstrap. A classic "Tom Mix"-style hat is the perfect shape: when you lean into the wind it pushes the hat onto your head.
I had a wool BSA campaign hat that I never wore, so I had it reshaped to a cattleman’s crease at a hatter with equipment from the 1850’s. The crown is low, and I get complements every time I wear it. I like my hat color to match my leather color: black/black, brown/brown. Palm/straw hats just need the matching leather hat band.
This is my favorite style of hat. All because my mother had a picture of her father wearing his military issue campaign hat during WW1. Got one when I was young, and wore it out. Just got a replacement a month ago. Thanks for sharing!
Good video as per their high standard. Black felt hats are still of high ranking. I was requested by the head of a family of Native American cowboys and Indian Rodeo riders to photograph the family for their new business cards. I was too much an amateur photographer to know how to photograph black hats. Black absorbs light and reflects no light to the camera. The only thing a camera sees is the muted sun and dirt on the hat. The family wanted to look spiffy with no dirty hats. Wish I could have figured it out. The family was good friends at their rodeos I attended for years. Their rodeos are small and more fun than the one large Tucson event. Try one out. I had a good time for years. The Ghostriders are an excellent intro to the West that was. They are doing valuable work to rebuild an important movie set Mescal prominent in local movie industry history.
I still have my old BSA campaign hat from 50 years ago. At some point I replaced the leather band with a surplus US Army cord. It no longer fits my head, so it's now part of my eclectic hat collection.
Good morning Arizona Ghost Riders. Just want to say hey. I enjoy the show and thank you for sharing. I too have a pretty big hat collection. Both baseball caps and Civil War hats. But not original Civil War hats. Your friend Ted
You could tell which side of the northern border a man was from by the creases on his hat. Canadians had the front dimple forward, the ridges of the creases going SW, NW, NE, SE. While Americans had the crease in Front, and the ridges going S, W, N, E. Best examples today are Canadian Mounties, and US Marine DIs. Both still wear their Smokey Covers in their traditional, national ways.
When I had the misfortune of going through basic training the Drill Sgts. all had those kinds of hats, pulled down in front with the chin strap behind the head. Right after Viet Nam the whole Army was demoralize, morale was in the crapper and it was the Sgts, and training cadre that pulled that organization up by its bootstraps and made it what it is today. So there is to me a certain gravitas that comes with it. But there is something I have always been curious about and since you are the hat guy maybe you know: why is it in all the Cavalry movies the troopers wear the front of the brim turned up? It doesn't keep the rain or sun out of their eyes so maybe it's just a style.
Hat brims flipped up can be a few different things. Having an unecumbered view over everything in front of you is important. Also, a full run on horseback might easily flip that brim up.
I've always wondered about the origin of the campaign hat. For L.E. they make the brims very stiff. As patrol vehicles got smaller I beaned myself on the A frame quite a few times getting into the car and forgetting to remove my hat first.
The Montana Peak is a distinction between the WWI (M1912?) and Spanish-American War campaign cover. Those usually had a crease in the middle, which works GREAT for tropical rain😆
When the US entered WW I the nation undertook the largest conscription since the Civil War. The minuscule regular US Army had to train this huge force. The sergeants training the conscripts wore the campaign hats they wore on the plains and in the Spanish American War. At roughly the same time the US Army started to issue the much more practical helmet. So campaign hats became almost exclusive to old professional troops and their distinctive identification. So much so it became an issue item. It survives as the hat Drill Sergeants (USMC Drill Instructors if you eat crayons) wear teaching Basic Training in the military today. It takes rigorous training to become a Drill Sergeant/Instructor and incredibly hard work (18 hour, 7 day work weeks for months on end isn’t uncommon) So the hat is a badge of honor. Until it’s retired when the NCO returns to his regular duties it’s worn with pride or stored in a frame to keep the brim straight as a razor.
Awesome. I'll check out Marsh Custom Hats. I tried to get a custom hat from the hat maker in Viginia City, NV, but it did not go well, and I was pretty disappointed.
This hat design has been well known as an iconic piece of New Zealand military history. The NZ expeditionary forces wore them during the Gallipoli campaign in WWI
Yep!
I really would have liked a campaign style hat when I was a scout master, but the troop's traditional one that it passed down wasn't cared for properly, and the boys never chose to replace ir. And troop tradition was a SM didn't buy his own.
too bad
Shades of William S. Hart! I love my campaign hat. By the way, it was also the chapeau of choice for Rod Taylor's character in the series, Bearcats!
Interesting!! Thanks for that
Thank you Santee for the great history lesson: You did know that the misses, gets to have twice as many shoes as you do hats? Hehehe. Have a great weekend.
Yes!
I'm glad that you included the RCMP as part of the video. Part of the western heritage here in Canada.
Hope you enjoyed it!
The Smokey the Bear Hat!
Among others
My hats off to you on this one. A true crowning achievement you really had it covered and just brimming with history.
My skills are...in creasing.
He hat it covered!
Good one@@Reddrik
A side note re: the "campaign hat": Our American hat has its four ridges/creases on the four Principal compass points (N, E, S & W) Or if you prefer by the clock - 12, 3, 6, and 9 O'clock). British hats, like the Mounties wear, are on an "X" pattern, i.e. 2, 4, 8, and 10 O'clock.
Good info.
Not completely true... The New Zealand Army, very much organised in the British style, issue a similar ‘lemon squeezer’ hat, which is worn in the US fashion. Tradition provides it was designed to mirror the outline of Mount Taranaki.@@ArizonaGhostriders
@@keat1ey More good info. Looks ike this style of hat has different origins for different cultures.
Nice hat Santee!
Thanks!
Im happy you put and RCMP picture in tour video because it really made me think of their hats
yes!
That's a mighty fine hat, Santee. 🤠
Thank You!
I'm very fond of hats and over the years I've collected many. Most of the time i wear hats of practicality but I'm still looking for a cowboy hat that really looks good on me. A vanity hat. Great video Santee.
Vanity hats are great, too
amazing noggin cover santee😀
Thank You!
Very nice Santee! I have sort of a hat fetish, but I don't have a Campaign Hat....yet!
Next hat!
I was expecting the Im a lumberjack and I'm ok song from Monty Python when I seen that hat
LOL!
😅
WOW, so much for thinking a cowboy hat was just a cowboy hat! I had no idea there were so many types, and sizes. This was so cool, and interesting, Santee. As usual, I love the added visuals, and audios, as well. 👏🏻🤠👏🏻
Thank You, Rhonda.
Fun Fact -- this hat exists in the video game Fallout 76 and is pretty common. You can just find them lying about for your character to wear. o7
I remember
The campaign hat has always been my piece of headwear. Ever since I first learned of its existence when learning about the U.S. military prior to world war 1, I've had an unending fascination with this hat. So much so, that the character in my profile picture (a world war 1 era U.S. marine) is even wearing one himself! Heck, I even got one for myself on my 17th birthday though, unfortunately, it couldn't fit my massive head. I hope to save up enough money to, one day, buy one that will actually fit me that I can wear with honor. Thank you, Santee old chum, for making this video.
You're so welcome! If you take that hat to a pro hatter, they may be able to fit it right to your noggin.
U forgot to say it's the hat of the drill sgt! None the less great vid!
You must have missed when I said, "It's still in commission today," which covers the armed services, state troopers, and park rangers who wear them (I even showed a Canadian Mountie).
@@ArizonaGhostriders true lol
I think I spotted The Grey Fox in there. Underrated gem of a western.
I've usually favored a creased crown, myself, but maybe there's something to the old lemon squeezer look, especially with those deep indents on yours. Something about the little divots I usually see never sat right with me.
I also like the haphazzard crease look. Like the hat got mashed while the wearer was walking under a low door frame.
I was surprised with just how much I enjoyed that movie
Richard Farnsworth is great in western’s!
Yes, he was@@markely7587
UA-cam has kept you away from my feed for a couple of months! Glad to hook up once again pard!
Interesting....glad you found us again.
My nephew is in the RCMP and yep, that is still part of the uniform and I believe Stetson makes it for them. Got to try it on but his head is a bit smaller than mine(or I have a swelled head).
That's very cool. So stetson makes them?
@@ArizonaGhostriders they mention on the RCMP site that Biltmore Stetson Canada makes them today but John B Stetson Comp made them for years in a special factory here in Canada.
@@dcb_75 Ahhh, great!
I love the campaign hat on AZ DPS officers.
Very cool, right?
That hat looks great on you. I personally wear the lemon squeezer campaign hat on my fishing and hunting excursions in North Idaho. I have even worn it deep sea fishing down in Mexico since it has a strap. The Akubra slouch is a perfect hat for a lemon squeezer bash, makes for a well proportioned campaign hat.
Thanks for the kudos. It's a comfy hat.
Thanks again Santee & Co. Nifty looking cover .
Our pleasure!
Love me a good sombrero! Of course, though not "old West", my favorite is Raylin Givens Stetson in the series Justified.
He rocks that hat, for sure. Watch the new series yet?
@@ArizonaGhostriders yes. I have. Great series. 👍 You?
Grest history on hats Santee! 🤠
Appreciated!
I tip my hat to you for this episode!
Most of the branches of the military still use these for their Drill Instructors.
Literal drill heads
Marines especially.
Looking good in your new hat there, Santee. I hadn't realised the practicality of the 'lemon squeezer' style in getting the rain off your hat. Thanks for that.
I saw a couple of people in the photographs wearing peaked caps, also know as the flat cap. I happen to have one like that and it also just so happens it was made by Stetson.
Oh that's great!!
Yep this was a lot of fun . I would like a Campaign hat . Thanks for sharing earthling Santee
Glad you enjoyed it
Your new lid looks fantastic! Love to see a Cavalry hat chord on it.
Noted!
This episode is brimming with habidashery!
It's my crowning achievement.
These are great hats and look really good with period clothes. This style very common on northern plains
Thank You!
Hey Santee Thanks for including my hat in this episode.
Any time. Which one is yours?
It's the one with me wearing it at old Tucson@@ArizonaGhostriders
Oh!! OK, then. That hat inspired me to get one of my very own.
Fantastic video! I have a couple of Mike’s hats, a “Longmire” and a “Gus”.
Fantastic to see you wearing on of his hats. Great guy to work with.
Very cool! He is a great feller.
Another great video..i always associated those hats with the Canadian Mounties.
Glad you like them!
It suits you very well, Santee, enjoy it
Thank You!
Watching this video during my visit to Sweden!
Go to High Chapparal!
Good stuff Santee! You have that one covered!
Thanks!
There is a great modern "fusion" style straw hat called the sombrero style straw hat - normal crown and very wide sides to protect from sun. They used yo to be difficult to find but are now are online. I keep my old discolored one lubricated and on a stand. A stampede string is really functional in the wind. Thanks again to Santee for dropping the old stereotypes to expose the great variety of "lids".
You're welcome! I appreciate you.
Great video Santee, thank you so much for sharing as usual. Love the history of the hats. Thank you again.
Glad you enjoyed
Great looking hat thanks for the history!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
You bet
Even my hero Pancho Villa wore one of these hats.There are several photos of him wearing one.
He did
Pretty nifty to know how a different shape provides a different advantage.
Yes
My Mojave Desert camping and jeeping hat for decades was an old, original Army campaign hat I bought at an antique store in the 1970's. And I still have my straw cowboy hat I bought in Laramie WYO in 1962.
Love that
This is perfect timing. I just ordered a vintage Boy Scout campaign hat off of eBay! The hat doesn’t have a size tag so really hoping the seller measured it correctly!
I think they can be re-sized. Note that those tend to be really stiff hats at first.
I bought a brand new one at the Base Camp store at Philmont, and then two weeks of monsoon marching and climbing in the Sangre de Cristos turned it into a boonie hat.
@@HootOwl513 I live in Arizona at the moment so I won’t have to worry about that too much 😂 Typically don’t do a whole lot during the monsoons
@@HootOwl513 🤠
@@KenMcKenzie98 I live in Tucson now, too. But July of 1964 was particularly wet in Northern NM.
Good Morning Santee, thanks for another great story and video.
Much appreciated
Everyone wore hats and they were a fascinating part of Western history. Thanks for another great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Can't agree with you more, Santee! Can never have enough hats and have several. Can ya tell I'm single? The Montana Peak is a great style and I do have one. Another great video! Thank you!
Right on!
Awesome hat! You really peaked my interest on this episode. Only 15 hats? I thought I had alot with 54. 😂
54?!?!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Jealous? I am. I've only got five. Six, if you count the ornate sombrero I bought at a truck stop near Laredo, but I've never worn it; it's just for decoration.
Oh you do have alot at 54.. hell i thought i was stretching it with 9. Hoping you wear them all in good health 😎
Ok, at that number storage HAS to be an issue.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Ask Joe to put you in his will for some hats Santee.
Not that I wish Joe a demise at all or send Bill for grande theft hats?
Real interesting Santee, my hats off to ya 🐴
HA! Appreciated amigo.
What a way to top off the week! Thanks
Our pleasure!
Santee, nice choice! That's a good looking hat, I enjoyed our weekly "coffee visit"
Thanks!
It does look good on you, Santee.
Thank You!
Great look, Santee!
Thank you! Cheers!
I love the look of the campaign hat. It's my favorite and my Stetson is a BSA edition one
Awesome!
Another great episode Santee. The new hat looks great on you.
Oh thank you!
Thanks Santee!!
Any time!
Where I live this style of hat is best known from the old comic and its reruns: King of the Royal Mounted.
HA! While out here it's an iconic hat of the frontier.
Handsome looking hat, Santee! I’ve always loved the Montana pinch or peak! It’s a great shape for the frontier!
Thanks!!!
Great looking hat Santee you covered that subject well.
HA! Glad you enjoyed it.
I believe the increased version is the one referred to as the “Injun Joe” hat. The same one worn in the movie Billy Jack by the title character.
The hat Billy Jack wore was similar
@@ArizonaGhostriders yeah. I meant to say the “UNcreased” one. Not the “INcreased” one. Auto-corrupt strikes again.
@@santamanone I get it!
We had an old campaign hat in our family that my great grandfather wore on the Pancho Villa punitive raid. He was a Major in Cuba, we've got his 30/40 Krag, my brother also has his M1911 from WW1, he was a Brig General in the AEF, l don't know if he carried it when he was hunting Pancho. He was in the Ohio National Gaurd, l can find all kinds of history about him from the Wars, have a lot of his letters, a lot of it with AEF letterheads, but not much about Panchos ill fated hunt. Wikepedia says he went on it, and family lore, but l think I'm going to attempt to dig deeper
Cool family history!
@@ArizonaGhostriders l started off with the campaign hat and then rambled, the old man, the General, was by all accounts an interesting man, humble, dedicated, old school. In the early 60s my dad was stationed in France, we got to tour the battlefields, check out where his granddad and uncle served.
Lee Marvin wore that hat in almost every Western he made, with two notable exceptions - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance and Paint Your Wagon. When he was Kid Shelleen in Cat Ballou, he had the Liberty Valance type hat, but his evil twin Tim Strawn wore the campaign hat. That makes it a pretty cool hat.
He was so great in Cat Ballou.
Also the Professionals!
@@bobbysnow5478 One of the best westerns ever made.
@@ArizonaGhostriders It proved his greatness as an actor. But Liberty Valance is still the wickedest of all the bad guys.
Looked great on Mr. Marvin .
Never really thought much about western hats, another interesting episode... that's using your head Santee!
I was brimming with ideas.
😄@@ArizonaGhostriders
Military hats are something ill always enjoy especially of the slouch hat variety
Cool!
Yes best for shedding rain. Defeated again by the addition of a pencil roll.
There seem to have been several parallel streams of evolution of broad-brimmed headgear in operation during the 1800s. We should not forget the contribution of the Mexican sombrero, which had a rich evolution going back to the colonial era when even Anglo pilgrims wore such headgear. Hell, even Dutch pilgrims: take a look at any image of Peter Stuyvesant. The classic oversized "ten gallon" with the canted bash, angled wings, and sloping back brim is no coincidence or fashion statement. Such shapes evolved on the open ranges where protection from the sun vied with stability in the wind and even then you needed a chinstrap. A classic "Tom Mix"-style hat is the perfect shape: when you lean into the wind it pushes the hat onto your head.
I noticed that in the wind today.
I had a wool BSA campaign hat that I never wore, so I had it reshaped to a cattleman’s crease at a hatter with equipment from the 1850’s. The crown is low, and I get complements every time I wear it. I like my hat color to match my leather color: black/black, brown/brown. Palm/straw hats just need the matching leather hat band.
Cool that you reshaped one.
Love em. Dixie sells pretty good ones too
Yeah?
If it’s good enough for Smokey it’s good enough for me.
Right!
Don’t forget the rich tradition of different ranger services in the Parks and Forestry, also keeping the campaign hat alive!
State Troopers, too!
My favorite style of hat is the Stetson Cavalry hat and yes the campaign hat is also my favorite.
Great!
This is my favorite style of hat. All because my mother had a picture of her father wearing his military issue campaign hat during WW1. Got one when I was young, and wore it out. Just got a replacement a month ago. Thanks for sharing!
So cooL!
Why are cowboy hats curled up on the sides?
So they can fit three in the pickup
I thought it was to hold the taco meat.
@@ArizonaGhostriders No. It's so they can put it over the seat in the outhouse and not freeze their buns in those frigid Montana winters.
@@HootOwl513 Makes the curling edges of the brim kinda...scoopy.
My hat's off to ya Santee. That's a good looking hat!🤠🇺🇲
Thank You!
Great job and nice looking hat Santee ... I too like hats and it takes me some time to pick one out for the day ...🤠
You and me both!
Good video as per their high standard. Black felt hats are still of high ranking. I was requested by the head of a family of Native American cowboys and Indian Rodeo riders to photograph the family for their new business cards. I was too much an amateur photographer to know how to photograph black hats. Black absorbs light and reflects no light to the camera. The only thing a camera sees is the muted sun and dirt on the hat. The family wanted to look spiffy with no dirty hats. Wish I could have figured it out. The family was good friends at their rodeos I attended for years. Their rodeos are small and more fun than the one large Tucson event. Try one out. I had a good time for years. The Ghostriders are an excellent intro to the West that was. They are doing valuable work to rebuild an important movie set Mescal prominent in local movie industry history.
Fascinating. I didn't know black hats required special attention in photography!
I think made a good choice buying this hat style both for good looks and use. 🤠👍
Thank you very much.
Campaign Hat Nice video Santee and the hat is where Canada mount police department wearing
Yes, and US Marine drill sargeants.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I see Santee
I have been looking for a good custom campaign hat for a long time. So i will definitely give marsh some business when I can.
Thank You!
I still have my old BSA campaign hat from 50 years ago. At some point I replaced the leather band with a surplus US Army cord. It no longer fits my head, so it's now part of my eclectic hat collection.
Pretty awesome!
Good morning Arizona Ghost Riders. Just want to say hey. I enjoy the show and thank you for sharing. I too have a pretty big hat collection. Both baseball caps and Civil War hats. But not original Civil War hats. Your friend Ted
Awesome, Ted! Glad to hear that.
You could tell which side of the northern border a man was from by the creases on his hat. Canadians had the front dimple forward, the ridges of the creases going SW, NW, NE, SE. While Americans had the crease in Front, and the ridges going S, W, N, E.
Best examples today are Canadian Mounties, and US Marine DIs. Both still wear their Smokey Covers in their traditional, national ways.
Interesting extra info
When I had the misfortune of going through basic training the Drill Sgts. all had those kinds of hats, pulled down in front with the chin strap behind the head. Right after Viet Nam the whole Army was demoralize, morale was in the crapper and it was the Sgts, and training cadre that pulled that organization up by its bootstraps and made it what it is today. So there is to me a certain gravitas that comes with it.
But there is something I have always been curious about and since you are the hat guy maybe you know: why is it in all the Cavalry movies the troopers wear the front of the brim turned up? It doesn't keep the rain or sun out of their eyes so maybe it's just a style.
Hat brims flipped up can be a few different things. Having an unecumbered view over everything in front of you is important. Also, a full run on horseback might easily flip that brim up.
I haven't seen one about your hat maker friend , of several years, Mark yet. He learned from Tom also.
Mark Tovsen? Is that who you mean? If so, you're right. I should do one on Mark.
@@ArizonaGhostridersI'm just giving you a hard time, John.
I love the campaign hat it I so comfortable and practical. You would really have to search far and wide for a better design for a more practical hat
I agree, it's very comfortable.
Hats plenty of them amigo 😂 after all what will be the old west with out them ! Very important! Keep up amigo
Muchas Gracias, Marco!
Now that is a nice hat. Very nice indeed.
Thank You very much.
Love hats…well done, thanks.
Thank you! Cheers!
I like that style hat , I"ve always wondered about that style loved the video . aaaanother awsome job thank you
Thank You!
I've always wondered about the origin of the campaign hat. For L.E. they make the brims very stiff. As patrol vehicles got smaller I beaned myself on the A frame quite a few times getting into the car and forgetting to remove my hat first.
Yeah, and those hats have an unusual strap in the back that seems to go around your noggin...right?
Yep!@@ArizonaGhostriders
The Montana Peak is a distinction between the WWI (M1912?) and Spanish-American War campaign cover. Those usually had a crease in the middle, which works GREAT for tropical rain😆
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Makes sense to me to have an even number of hats. Thanks for the new video and showing your cool new hat.
Be safe out there, and take it easy man.
Thanks, you too!
🤔 Ya know, I don’t have one of these hats in my collection… I’m gonna have to remedy that! Thanks Santee!
You bet!
When the US entered WW I the nation undertook the largest conscription since the Civil War. The minuscule regular US Army had to train this huge force. The sergeants training the conscripts wore the campaign hats they wore on the plains and in the Spanish American War. At roughly the same time the US Army started to issue the much more practical helmet. So campaign hats became almost exclusive to old professional troops and their distinctive identification. So much so it became an issue item. It survives as the hat Drill Sergeants (USMC Drill Instructors if you eat crayons) wear teaching Basic Training in the military today.
It takes rigorous training to become a Drill Sergeant/Instructor and incredibly hard work (18 hour, 7 day work weeks for months on end isn’t uncommon) So the hat is a badge of honor. Until it’s retired when the NCO returns to his regular duties it’s worn with pride or stored in a frame to keep the brim straight as a razor.
Yep. Big deal for them Marines (my brother and father can attest).
I still have my campaign hat from my days as an Army D.S. And you are correct on the hours.
In the desert prisons of CA I wore the straw campaign hat, in summer it was the only shade around, and in the blustery winds it rode secure.
Interesting. Yeah, they do well in wind.
Awesome. I'll check out Marsh Custom Hats. I tried to get a custom hat from the hat maker in Viginia City, NV, but it did not go well, and I was pretty disappointed.
Ugh!!!
That was the preferred head covering for Daniel Plainview.
Yes.
Love the hat. Going to check them out!
Thank You!
I agree with Mrs. Santee. Pew pew indeed!!! Great video on these different styles of hats, Santee! Definitely a crucial piece of gear in the Old West!
Right on!