Man that Goldmeadow Stalwart art hit me hard in the nostalgia. I didn't play much back then and hardly had any cards (and definitely didn't have money to buy cards) but I did somehow have one of those token/pack-filler/advertisement cards that was an advert for the upcoming Lorwyn set. It had the Stalwart art and it made Lorwyn look so captivating to adolescent me. I cherished that little piece of cardboard and it's probably the reason I remember Lorwyn so fondly even though I didn't play at all during that time
With a Lorwyn set coming out early 2026, I really hope we get some more Kithkin support. Among the creature types actually dedicated to a tribal theme, Kithkin have been one of the most neglected.
@@mikotagayuna8494 I truly hope not because they are different. If they do that I know most actual Kithkin are getting cut from Kithkin decks and that saddens me.
@@JasonOshinko LotR was wildly profitable and is still being sold in some stores. It's also easy to imagine that a tribal set like Lorwyn could piggyback on LotR's popularity and give the halfling creature type enough support to make it viable in different formats.
Wizards released a poll if players would like to have kithkin become halflings. A slight majority of players voted No but I can see Wizards doing it anyway to align the upcoming Lorwyn set with the LotR and D&D sets.
"We appreciate that a lot of players have an attachment to kithkin, and we think those players and the kithkin creature type are important. However, they're not as important as making sure Magic becomes the Fortnight of analog games, so they're halflings now" -- Mark Rosewater during Return to Lorwyn preview season, probably
Ahhh kithkin. I will say, I love their art. But I don't think I've ever played one. Not out of a dislike for them, but I don't recall any being that popular in EDH, or vintage for that matter. Speaking of which, I wonder if we can get "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)" soon.
Rundvelt Hordemaster is also a 2 mana lord, but for goblins with a slightly worse statline. However, it does also help you get more goblins by potentially replacing any of your goblins that die.
@NizzahonMagic fair enough, but to your point there's also the vampire, soldier, rogue, and knight lords that are 2/2 for 2 mana. Those are just the most popular creatures type lords though, there's also lords for dogs, satyrs, fungus and saprolings, squirrels, enchantment creatures, clerics, and colorless creatures to name a few. It's certainly not a common thing, especially at the time the kithkin was printed, but wotc seems to be willing to print them more frequently now
@@ItsDangerousGoAlone But that's an actual creature type now. I'm surprised how little fanfare seeing Frodo and other Tolkien hobbits "officially" classed as a "halfling" got.
One good idea could be revisite the worst creature types from episode 172. Many got overpowered cards since then and are no more the worst cretures types.
I really want to see you cover top ten foxes. Foxes are my favorite animal, and I really want to build a deck with some, but I always defer to your videos when deciding on card quality and whether a card will fit into my deck.
top 10 enchantments that generate creature tokens shark typhoon assemble the legion awakening zone urabrask's forge outlaws' merriment sandwurm convergience followed footsteps this is just naming some. i want what a top 10 list would be like. i brainstormed these up for a boardwipe deck that uses these to generate creatures, and also synergises with doubling season and contagion engine, and caretaker's talent, wrath of god, fumigate. since most of my creatures are generated from enchantments this means cards like fumigate will benefit me more than the opponent most of the time.
After our first trip to Zendikar, do you think we will ever see a REAL return to leveling up creatures like FoD, Hexdrinker or Lighthouse Chronologist?
Sadly, no: people hated them for being waaaaaay too overcosted, while the support was both rare and inefficient (like a single bue creature with EBT: "Put a single level counter on a single creature"). Yeah, you can proliferate, but more than often you alre already paying twice the mana cost of a card + the proliferation for a very little effect. WotC needs like a "total rebranding"
I find it weird that cards like Nagas, Cephalids, etc got an errata to consolidate creature types but Kithkin didn't get and errata to become Halflings.
According to Mark Rosewater, Kithkin are the Magic universe version of the race so they are staying distinct. Halfling will refer to the D&D version (and Middle Earth).
Me kissing the Kithkin goodbye before they are errata'd into Halflings for the sake of corporate synergy
Note: Gaddock Teeg does NOT stop Hangarback Walker or Walking Ballista.
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Yep Teeg specifically stops *noncreatures* with X in their cost, creatures still get through
Yeah he only does noncreatures which makes him way worse than I wish he were.
I think he means that it stops other cards those creatures want to be playing.
They're creatures you idiot.
"Oh I remember that card! When was it last play- SIXTEEN YEARS AGO? GoddamnI'm old."
Man that Goldmeadow Stalwart art hit me hard in the nostalgia. I didn't play much back then and hardly had any cards (and definitely didn't have money to buy cards) but I did somehow have one of those token/pack-filler/advertisement cards that was an advert for the upcoming Lorwyn set. It had the Stalwart art and it made Lorwyn look so captivating to adolescent me. I cherished that little piece of cardboard and it's probably the reason I remember Lorwyn so fondly even though I didn't play at all during that time
Wayne Reynolds’ art is so good.
With a Lorwyn set coming out early 2026, I really hope we get some more Kithkin support. Among the creature types actually dedicated to a tribal theme, Kithkin have been one of the most neglected.
Wizards is already planning to subsume kithkin into halfling in time for Return to Lorwyn.
@@mikotagayuna8494 I truly hope not because they are different. If they do that I know most actual Kithkin are getting cut from Kithkin decks and that saddens me.
@@genesis4322 Agreed. Unfortunately, Wizards will take the short term profit route per usual.
@@mikotagayuna8494 In what way is this change profitable?
@@JasonOshinko LotR was wildly profitable and is still being sold in some stores. It's also easy to imagine that a tribal set like Lorwyn could piggyback on LotR's popularity and give the halfling creature type enough support to make it viable in different formats.
Wizards released a poll if players would like to have kithkin become halflings. A slight majority of players voted No but I can see Wizards doing it anyway to align the upcoming Lorwyn set with the LotR and D&D sets.
"We appreciate that a lot of players have an attachment to kithkin, and we think those players and the kithkin creature type are important. However, they're not as important as making sure Magic becomes the Fortnight of analog games, so they're halflings now" -- Mark Rosewater during Return to Lorwyn preview season, probably
Teeg going to see tons of play now that Green Sun's Zenith is unbanned in Modern.
The thoughtweft ties a clachan together.
3:43 Don't forget the Ixalan lords. So also Vampires.
Ahhh kithkin. I will say, I love their art. But I don't think I've ever played one. Not out of a dislike for them, but I don't recall any being that popular in EDH, or vintage for that matter. Speaking of which, I wonder if we can get "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)" soon.
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@@monterraythehomeless Thank you
Top 19 Vintage Cards
@@CasualCoreK Minus power 10.
@@monterraythehomeless Why? I find these comments on every single video insanely annoying and I would absolutely block them if UA-cam would let me.
I first started playing MTG right before Lorwyn came out, so seeing this list was a nice blast from the past ^_^
Rundvelt Hordemaster is also a 2 mana lord, but for goblins with a slightly worse statline. However, it does also help you get more goblins by potentially replacing any of your goblins that die.
It's also not a 2/2.
@NizzahonMagic fair enough, but to your point there's also the vampire, soldier, rogue, and knight lords that are 2/2 for 2 mana. Those are just the most popular creatures type lords though, there's also lords for dogs, satyrs, fungus and saprolings, squirrels, enchantment creatures, clerics, and colorless creatures to name a few. It's certainly not a common thing, especially at the time the kithkin was printed, but wotc seems to be willing to print them more frequently now
One of my favorite creature types... can't wait for their return
It should be noted that Forge-Tender was occasionally used to blank attacks from Progenitus.
I only really know this creature type from the flavor text and artwork of Mystic Gate.
Something that didn't get mentioned: Gaddock Teeg also blanks damn near every board wipe spell as well.
I had no clue wtf a kithkin was but learned something new today.
It is magic's creature type for "halfling" or "hobbit"
i'm a kithkin because my dad looked just like gaddock teeg.
@@ItsDangerousGoAlone But that's an actual creature type now. I'm surprised how little fanfare seeing Frodo and other Tolkien hobbits "officially" classed as a "halfling" got.
I loved Kithkin in Lorwyn. Really good creatures for White Weenie.
If Forge-tender gets reprinted as a common, the pauper boost would cement it at the top
One good idea could be revisite the worst creature types from episode 172. Many got overpowered cards since then and are no more the worst cretures types.
Hey I recently bought and use Burrenton forge-tender in my black,blue, white party mechanic deck🔥
I really want to see you cover top ten foxes. Foxes are my favorite animal, and I really want to build a deck with some, but I always defer to your videos when deciding on card quality and whether a card will fit into my deck.
The original Kithkin has the prettiest art
Galepowder Mage is rocking in my Cube for years now.
Wow massive points jump from #3 to #2.
The only Kithkin I can think of is Gaddick Teeg, so that one.
Is "how good we're they?" Coming back?
Also you should do the top 10 level up cards. Not very many of them and it is a unique ability in mtg
top 10 enchantments that generate creature tokens
shark typhoon
assemble the legion
awakening zone
urabrask's forge
outlaws' merriment
sandwurm convergience
followed footsteps
this is just naming some. i want what a top 10 list would be like. i brainstormed these up for a boardwipe deck that uses these to generate creatures, and also synergises with doubling season and contagion engine, and caretaker's talent, wrath of god, fumigate. since most of my creatures are generated from enchantments this means cards like fumigate will benefit me more than the opponent most of the time.
I was waiting for this one
After our first trip to Zendikar, do you think we will ever see a REAL return to leveling up creatures like FoD, Hexdrinker or Lighthouse Chronologist?
Sadly, no: people hated them for being waaaaaay too overcosted, while the support was both rare and inefficient (like a single bue creature with EBT: "Put a single level counter on a single creature").
Yeah, you can proliferate, but more than often you alre already paying twice the mana cost of a card + the proliferation for a very little effect.
WotC needs like a "total rebranding"
Can you do Top 10 CMC2 Knights?
Could you do a deck history of chronastasis ie chronatog kismet stasis or chronatog stasis orb of dreams?
Not Mistmeadow Witch?!
The best Kithkin is Brigid, Who's Seen Some Stuff.
0:07 Also kinda sorta not really Kithkin Armor.
The type that Wizards wants you to forget.
What possible motive could they have for wanting players to forget about it?
@@JasonOshinko I just remember reading that Kithkin were quite unpopular because of their oblong heads so Wizards retired them.
Don't have any of these ten cards 😭🤬😅
Do Kors now~
Top 10 Basic Lands please
Lots of 2 cmc 2/2 lords
I find it weird that cards like Nagas, Cephalids, etc got an errata to consolidate creature types but Kithkin didn't get and errata to become Halflings.
According to Mark Rosewater, Kithkin are the Magic universe version of the race so they are staying distinct. Halfling will refer to the D&D version (and Middle Earth).