Henri Fayol || Classical Administrative Thinker|| Public Administration || Lecture 11

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  • @maheshk2167
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    Need for administrative training
    • Fayol is a pioneer in suggesting the need for systematic training in administration.
    • He suggest that training is a continuous process, starting from the school and covering in-service training of the employees within the organization.
    • He considers every superior officer in an organization as a teacher to this immediate subordinates.
    Gangplank
    • It refers to the need for "level jumping" in a hierarchical organization.
    • Although he places emphasis on formal organization, he is alive to the dangers of conformity to hierarchy and formalism.
    • 'it is an error to depart needlessly from the line of authority, but it is even greater one to keep it when detrimental to the business.
    • While suggesting "Gangplank", Fayol is rather cautious. He feels that it may be less relevant to govt. agencies in which the lines of authority are less clearer, than in private organization
    Fayol vs. Taylor
    Fayol Taylor
    • He concentrated on the top level i.e. managerial activities • He concentrated on the operative and shop floor level
    • He worked from top to bottom theory • He worked from bottom to top level
    • He emphasised on the function of management as a whole and • He emphasised on the efficiency of workers & managers in actual production
    principle involved therein.
    • he focused on improving overall administration by observing • He focused on increasing productivity through work simplification and
    certain principles. standardization
    • His approach was flexible • His approach was relatively rigid.
    • He advocated "unity of command". • He advocated "functional foremanship"
    • He provided systematic theory of administration • He provided a science of industrial management.
    Taylor & Fayol (Similarities)
    • Both had a common objective efficiency & economy
    • Both stressed on practical aspect
    • Both believed in concept of "economic man"
    • Both believed that managerial qualities can be acquired through training.
    • Both applied scientific method to problem of management.
    • Both realised the universality of management.
    Criticism Of Fayol
    1) Un-scientific theory:- his ideas are based on personal experiences.
    2) Mechanistic theory:- neglect human aspect
    3) Dehumanising theory:- concept of economicman.
    4) Normative theory:- practically difficult to follow
    Criticised by later thinkers; human relation school, behavioralist etc.
    Criticism by Peter Drucker
    • Mechanistic model of an ideal organization was imposed on a living business.
    • 14 principles of Fayol overlap.
    • Narrow functional base:- although functionalism is empirically convenient, it is found to be deficient in design and logic.
    • Besides, the empirical base used by Fayol for generating a full-fledged theory of management is too narrow. fayol, proceeded to theorise on functionalism on the basis of the functions undertaken in a manufacturing company. Contemporary organization are definitely larger in size and much more complex.
    • Clash of Unity of command & Coordination :- To Fayol, the principle of unity of command is of supreme importance. It would be dysfunctional to strengthen the hierarchy, where the sense of unity is less, personal contact is limited and real difference of outlook are desirable.
    • Chief executive would face problem of coordination.
    conclusion
    We need to evaluate fayol "contextually" rather than finding shortcoming in his theory, it should be appreciated for laying down some fundamentally strong principles.
    Among the early writer on management, fayol has the unique distinction of attempting to build a universal science of management applicable to commerce, industry, politics, religion, war or philanthropy.
    • He did not altogether neglect human side of organization. Bertram Gross said "To fayol personnel is the essence of the organization."
    • He was also careful to state that his principle not be considered as rigid rules.
    • He developed administration into a science.
    • He gave the idea of : gang-plank & need for administrative training
    • Fayol was pioneer of the concept of viewing management as being made up of functions.
    Even peter Drucker, a severe critic of Fayol's Theory of functionalism, acknowledge the Fayol's model is still unsurpassed in some respect. Fayol's functional organization is still the best way to structure a small business; especially as small manufacturing business.

  • @abhijitpatil4063
    @abhijitpatil4063 6 років тому +2

    I m sharing u r lecture and first to watch...

    • @Admn_World
      @Admn_World  6 років тому +4

      Thank You
      Must share. I am dealing with some health issue. After that I will upload video on regular basis. I will cover the syllabus soon

  • @RanveerSingh-kw4he
    @RanveerSingh-kw4he 5 років тому +1

    thanx DIDI... very good lecture on fayol

  • @sunilpoonia175
    @sunilpoonia175 6 років тому +3

    Bhaidi jorki video badiya hai......hope you will do it fastly

    • @Admn_World
      @Admn_World  6 років тому +1

      Definitely. I am working on it

  • @lawkumarthakur5417
    @lawkumarthakur5417 2 роки тому

    Many many thanks mam.. 🙏

  • @gobardhanmajhi6384
    @gobardhanmajhi6384 5 років тому +2

    Thank you ma'am

  • @umertechsolutions588
    @umertechsolutions588 3 роки тому

    Thank u mam for these lectures

  • @starlord-6341
    @starlord-6341 3 роки тому

    Pdf available hai kya maam iski???

  • @madhurimapramanik4018
    @madhurimapramanik4018 4 роки тому +1

    Mam I have a doubt .. Taylor published his book in 1911 where Fayol in 1916 but u said Fayol talked about scientific management earlier but as it wasn't in english we consider Taylor and America as a field of scientific management..why so?

  • @shrutisondhiya7163
    @shrutisondhiya7163 2 роки тому

    Thankyou Mam

  • @shreyashyadav8014
    @shreyashyadav8014 3 роки тому

    What's mean by paper's on

  • @parkashshrivastav4997
    @parkashshrivastav4997 4 роки тому

    Thanks so much ma'am

  • @bittusingh1555
    @bittusingh1555 5 років тому +1

    Can any one tells me what is the scope of doing M.A in public administration???

  • @sandeepsekharpk
    @sandeepsekharpk 3 роки тому

    thanks alot mam for such awesome video...relly helpful
    where will i get the ppt? plz provide

  • @administrativeservices7381
    @administrativeservices7381 4 роки тому +1

    SLIDE IS GOOD BUT SHOW MATURITY WITH CONTENT...AND ADD EXAMPLR...THNKU

  • @sunilpoonia175
    @sunilpoonia175 6 років тому +2

    Pls upload video on time

  • @shivaprasadhams671
    @shivaprasadhams671 3 роки тому

    Mam it was actually a great effort.
    But I have one suggestion.. If you simply read some lines (which is difficult to understand) then there seems no difference between reading here and in Prasads book...
    Instead of explaining simple line (which we obviously know)... Please help us to understand difficult terms and sentences.
    And it would be great if you can relate each thinkers ideas to modern Indian Administration... Where it is being applied... Atleast if you could explain in 1 min... That would give us a hint.. To work forward.
    Thank You 🙏

    • @Admn_World
      @Admn_World  3 роки тому

      Thank You for your suggestions.
      Kindly watch newer videos

  • @SAVAGEHOOMAN
    @SAVAGEHOOMAN 4 роки тому

    Ma'am, what is 'classic' thinkers?

    • @Admn_World
      @Admn_World  4 роки тому +1

      Classical thinkers are those who developed traditional theory... In which more emphasis was given to organisation rather than employees.

  • @Dragonwarrior23
    @Dragonwarrior23 4 роки тому

    Thanks

  • @misspuja2509
    @misspuja2509 5 років тому

    Thank you mam

  • @sammilkhanM
    @sammilkhanM 5 років тому

    Please let me know where I can get these presentation ppts

    • @maheshk2167
      @maheshk2167 4 роки тому +2

      Need for administrative training
      • Fayol is a pioneer in suggesting the need for systematic training in administration.
      • He suggest that training is a continuous process, starting from the school and covering in-service training of the employees within the organization.
      • He considers every superior officer in an organization as a teacher to this immediate subordinates.
      Gangplank
      • It refers to the need for "level jumping" in a hierarchical organization.
      • Although he places emphasis on formal organization, he is alive to the dangers of conformity to hierarchy and formalism.
      • 'it is an error to depart needlessly from the line of authority, but it is even greater one to keep it when detrimental to the business.
      • While suggesting "Gangplank", Fayol is rather cautious. He feels that it may be less relevant to govt. agencies in which the lines of authority are less clearer, than in private organization
      Fayol vs. Taylor
      Fayol Taylor
      • He concentrated on the top level i.e. managerial activities • He concentrated on the operative and shop floor level
      • He worked from top to bottom theory • He worked from bottom to top level
      • He emphasised on the function of management as a whole and • He emphasised on the efficiency of workers & managers in actual production
      principle involved therein.
      • he focused on improving overall administration by observing • He focused on increasing productivity through work simplification and
      certain principles. standardization
      • His approach was flexible • His approach was relatively rigid.
      • He advocated "unity of command". • He advocated "functional foremanship"
      • He provided systematic theory of administration • He provided a science of industrial management.
      Taylor & Fayol (Similarities)
      • Both had a common objective efficiency & economy
      • Both stressed on practical aspect
      • Both believed in concept of "economic man"
      • Both believed that managerial qualities can be acquired through training.
      • Both applied scientific method to problem of management.
      • Both realised the universality of management.
      Criticism Of Fayol
      1) Un-scientific theory:- his ideas are based on personal experiences.
      2) Mechanistic theory:- neglect human aspect
      3) Dehumanising theory:- concept of economicman.
      4) Normative theory:- practically difficult to follow
      Criticised by later thinkers; human relation school, behavioralist etc.
      Criticism by Peter Drucker
      • Mechanistic model of an ideal organization was imposed on a living business.
      • 14 principles of Fayol overlap.
      • Narrow functional base:- although functionalism is empirically convenient, it is found to be deficient in design and logic.
      • Besides, the empirical base used by Fayol for generating a full-fledged theory of management is too narrow. fayol, proceeded to theorise on functionalism on the basis of the functions undertaken in a manufacturing company. Contemporary organization are definitely larger in size and much more complex.
      • Clash of Unity of command & Coordination :- To Fayol, the principle of unity of command is of supreme importance. It would be dysfunctional to strengthen the hierarchy, where the sense of unity is less, personal contact is limited and real difference of outlook are desirable.
      • Chief executive would face problem of coordination.
      conclusion
      We need to evaluate fayol "contextually" rather than finding shortcoming in his theory, it should be appreciated for laying down some fundamentally strong principles.
      Among the early writer on management, fayol has the unique distinction of attempting to build a universal science of management applicable to commerce, industry, politics, religion, war or philanthropy.
      • He did not altogether neglect human side of organization. Bertram Gross said "To fayol personnel is the essence of the organization."
      • He was also careful to state that his principle not be considered as rigid rules.
      • He developed administration into a science.
      • He gave the idea of : gang-plank & need for administrative training
      • Fayol was pioneer of the concept of viewing management as being made up of functions.
      Even peter Drucker, a severe critic of Fayol's Theory of functionalism, acknowledge the Fayol's model is still unsurpassed in some respect. Fayol's functional organization is still the best way to structure a small business; especially as small manufacturing business.

  • @TarunSharma-sp3qb
    @TarunSharma-sp3qb 4 роки тому

    General and indusrial management 1915 and english translation 1929

  • @रामानुजमक्लासेस

    Hindi me blackboard m epadate to aur jyda achcha hota

    • @Admn_World
      @Admn_World  4 роки тому

      We'll definitely consider your Request.

  • @maheshk2167
    @maheshk2167 4 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @pukningeekhongjel1232
    @pukningeekhongjel1232 4 роки тому

    Thanks sister