Anyway, can you recognize the 1911 pistol that Coolio used in Red Water (2003). I can't really tell either it's government model or star model because I noticed an external extractor of the pistol.
I searched all my resource sites for IDing guns and came up with nothing I'm afraid. No google images either of him holding a gun. Maybe someone else on this channel can help? I'll pin the comment and see if anyone chimes in for you.
Google image search of "red water 2003 movie coolio gun" brought up an image of the 1911 in question, but not enough to really tell specifically. Given it was a TV movie budget, probably something like a Rock Island Armory. Hope this sheds some light on the subject.
@@hollywoodguns it looks to me like an early series 80, but there weren’t a lot of good angles on my image search. But the finish, the raised rear sights, and the barrel crowning would suggest about 10 different late 80s/early 90s models. I am POSITIVE the internet will correct me, but I’m gonna place my money on a series 80 Colt Government, I couldn’t see enough of the extractor to lean Star
@@hollywoodgunsI was the original owner from 1994 of a brand new amt automag III .30 Carbine. What a unique setup. Hoot to shoot! Recently sold it to my nephew. It was just time to pass it on to another admirer.
See... my position is that, judging from the way the Terminator "bought" the guns in T1, but then in T2 we see him hiding a shotgun in a box of roses -- I figure that something very similar must have gone down at the Florists. We need some kind of deleted scene were they're pretty much hashing out the same dialogue as in the gunstore, only it's all about *flowers.* Eventually the Terminator surreptitiously fills a spray bottle with water... FLORIST: You can't do that-- TERMINATOR: Wrong! And he sprays the Florist in the face.
The S&W 645 was actually in not just 1 but 2 hit tv-series . Obviously it was Crockett 's gun in the later seasons of Miami Vice, but it was also the main sidearm for Michael Chiklis' character in The Shield and I believe that Denzel also carried 2 of them in Training Day. Absolutely iconic pistol.
@@williamburns7472 Actually, in The Shield it was a 4506 the next Gen pistol. They only made the 645 for like 3 years and Miami Vice is the only "major" show it was on that I can recall. (And my wife complains how I ruin all shows having firearms with my complaints about usage, effects, bullet counts, and more!)
@@Punisher6791 the car was already very famous before the Back to the future movies. Actually it was the first few hundred cars that was terrible, because the workforce that build them were inexperienced with car building. The quality of the cars quickly improved. The nail in the coffin was the engine was underpowered, the car was too expensive, and it was released during a recession.
@davemccage7918 The Delta Elite would've been a good choice too but still not *quite* the fit. The bigger caliber definitely sells the heft of the character themselves but the sci-fi esque look of the laser atop the AMT makes Arnie more futuristic in appearance
@davemccage7918 From what I've been told the Hardballer had some jamming issues along with a lot of user error (Not using hot enough ammunition to cycle the long slide) so you didn't really miss out on anything. Slap a long slide on a delta elite with a comp and you'd have a better preforming/harder thumping handgun. Just try not to die inside when you realize the delta elite won't ever be made again and you just long-slided an original 😂
For anyone wondering about the Predator cameo, I'm not sure it shows up in the first film but it is in the 2nd one at the beginning when Danny Glover pops the trunk to find the right gun for the job, he grabs the long slide and comments that it's "..too small" as a little jab at Arnold/Terminator
bought one on my 21st birthday 35 years ago, the gun always gets attention when you get it out , and shoots great , has been a fun gun to have all those years , 5 years ago had it taken apart for inspection and had to replace the main spring , I told the gunsmith doing the work he can shoot it , and he said he was definitely going to shoot it and told me 20 oz bottles was no problem at 50 yards , after it was cleaned up and gone over I haven't fired it , gun is set up for hard balls , may drop a light recoil spring in it and try light loads at some point
Back in the mid 90's they sold Hardballer slide kits. I bought one and paired it with a ParaOrd high capacity frame. I took a green pad and removed all that logo and warning label from the slide. That thing is SO accurate even at long distances (75 yards).
In Resident Evil 4 they pay homage to Terminator by including a 1911 with that same laser module as one of their “magnum” pistols, however the pistol itself is your early 1911 5” government sized varient. In the remake they make it resemble a more sensible LAR Grizzly which was an actual magnum pistol, still has the Terminator laser tho.
The movie Sniper starring Tom Barringer has an LAR Grizzly. Only movie I know to feature one. It's way underrated as it's probably the only good Magnum pistol in reality. The Wildey Mag, Auto Mag other Browning Auto Mag (no affiliation to Browning/Fabrique Nationale de Herstal/Winchester), the new Auto Mag, or the piece of shit Desert Eagle that got way too much attention for a pistol that NEVER worked. The LAR Grizzly, it cycles, was available in many calibers including .50 AE, and was a true beefed up pistol capable of shooting full power 10mm Auto, .40 S&W, .45 Win Mag, 9mm Win Mag, and a few others. It's one of those pistol that should have been far more popular. Like the Lincoln Navigator versus the absolute trash Cadillac Escalade that sells 10x more units because of rap, celebrities, movies and so on. I had a chance to buy one prior to the Trudeau BS gun bans during May 20, 2020, but didn't have $2000 for it. It was the usual .45 Winchester Magnum. It would have been cool, outside of ever finding ammo or even casings for in Canada. Buffalo Bore and Underwood are all I know who load for the .45 Win Mag. Maybe Corebon, or some boutique companies, but all of which are near impossible to get ammo for. Or parts for that matter.
Many years ago,I got to shoot a Longslide with one of those lazers in CA.it was a mock up owned by a friend with a different but close adaption of the laser in Terminator.He had also added a muzzle break to this.The thing shot like a .22 target pistol ,little to no recoil and accurate as Hell.Just point the dot and squeeze off the trigger.Just feed it FMJ ammo,it wasn't happy with anything else.I belive he did get it to function,more,in the end by a lot of polishing of ramps and slide rails etc.Seemed like a lot of work for little return as 45 ACP ammo was still cheap and he reloaded a lot. Loved that gun and would love to get my hands on one over her in Europe.
Honest patina is not a bad thing for a classic firearm often times just like antiques people tend ruin an original finish in an attempt to "clean" an item, certified restoration exist for certain reasons other than that a good firearm should be allowed to age naturally 👌
I fell in love with the way those guns shoot. The feel of that long spring compressing gives a soft recoil like no other 45. Used to shoot one at a local range. My impression was that it was often down for service, possibly because of soft metal and galling of parts. At least that's what my gunsmith said and he's the one that fixed it. They were a local company for me (Arcadia Machine and Tool), later changed to IMI? when they moved to Irwindale. One of these days I'll get around to building one with modern materials.
The only IMI I know of is Israeli Military Industries, who made the many Uzi variants, the Galil, and the early versions of the Desert Eagle (before Magnum Research USA took over everything DE related) among other less famous weapons. I'm not sure if AMT did a name change, but if so it wouldn't be to IMI. As for the stainless thing, yeah, that was a major issue on all early 1st gen stainless guns not just from AMT. It was even worse on revolvers as a lot of early stainless ones developed dangerous frame stretch that led to catastrophic failures.
I had a used, standard length Hardballer in the late 90's in England, before the ban. It was the worst 1911 I have owned for accuracy. But it was flawlessly reliable. The slide had been polished & I personally think it's better brushed.
It's worth noting that this gun comes with an extended slide release and safety which weren't nearly as common back then, in my opinion an extended slide release is more important on a 1911 than extended safety but having both is nice and most modern high end 1911s still don't come with an extended slide release
I salute you for your research. I enjoy your videos. I learned about the problems of gauling stainless from a Larry Vickers video. He said that's why he and his Delta Force teammates usued carbon steel slides and frames from Caspian and Springfield. He said they just couldn't tune the stainless to be reliable and of course talking about the 1980's and early 90's. Things are completely different today
I recall a review in the UK of the AMT Hardballer and the problems of gauling , apparently Smith and Wesson and Colt solved the problem differently, one company used heat treatment on the slide and frame and the other used different grades of stainless steel on the slide and frame
I can attest to the function issues with the.45ACP Longslide (AMT) as well as the 10mm Javelina Longslide (IAI). I can recall going thru a full mag with either gun without a failure only one time. IMO, it was more due to the weight of the long slide slowing cycling (slide velocity) down more than anything else. The .45ACP was my first 1911 due entirely to T1, the Jav the second. Turned me away from 1911s after from the experience until a couple decades later when I wanted to give them another shot with a then very low cost GI model Rock Island Arsenal which ran flawlessly. This burst the dam.
Mine is the later IAI version of this and all the markings are near 100%. I shot one mag of ball ammo when I got it, about 20ish years ago. It functioned fine with low recoil. A few years ago I made an attempt to get the laser and it was a dead end. I do also have a 380 backup DOA and it actually shoots reliably. There was also a run of hardballers under the brand Galena and I got one in original box/etc long ago. They are really just collection pieces now.
For such a rare firearm, this has been modded into a surprising amount of video games. I currently have 10 games with this pistol in all three versions from the movie. I think I could find at least 10 more games where this pistol is either in the base game or added with a mod.
I saw it back in '84 in the movie. Very cool. I currently own a Colt Combat Commander with a Crimson Trace lasergrip. They are both smaller than Arnold's gear, which is appropriate since I am much smaller than Arnold also.
I have no idea when they ended production of the Longslide but I worked for a firearms importer in Sydney Australia during the mid 90s and we bought a few of these in around 1996. along with the 5" Hardballer and the little Automag II which was great fun. I don't know the manufacturer but Billy Zane also carried twin 45 longslides in 1996s The Phantom.
My father bought two AMT 380 Backups back in the early 1980s, He sold one to a friend, and the other was carried in his briefcase for a few years. The finish is all beat to heck even though the gun has barely been fired. I think most of AMT's stainless guns suffered from easily scuffed finishes.
Fun fact in regards to the difficulty of producing reliable stainless steel (SS) semi-auto firearms. Magnum Research spent around a decade developing the DE-50-SRMB (DE=Desert Eagle, 50=50AE, SRMB=Stainless/Rail/Muzzle Brake). The slide, frame, and barrel are each made from a different SS alloy. This was done to alleviate metal galling. Two of the alloys are medical grade SS. I was fortunate enough to shoot a 44mag DEagle back in the '80s, didn't get the "must own" urge until the SS version hit the market.
There is a video game called "Terminator Resistance." In the dlc "Infiltrator mode" and "Beyond The Annihilation Line" you can find the ATM Hard baller with laser sights. Might be as close as we'll get to seeing another one in media.
Beautiful pieces sir! I had an older series 70 colt (stainless) that had a similar brushed slide and bead blasted frame… I did a little polishing to buff out the idiot mark left by the former owner. “000 steel wool, flitz buffing compound, and a micro fiber cloth did the trick. 👍
The stainless needs to be a specific hardness in the frame and slide to prevent (yes the term is galling) . This was a problem early on for even S&W. Lama is an under rated and decent priced gun. Had a 380 some years ago currently have a Super Comanche 6 inch in 44 mag.
I had a Llama back in the 1990's, and that thing was junk. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it. It wasn't because of my inability of using firearms, because I had been familiar with them from the age of 6 or 7. I hunted just about every game animal on a yearly basis besides turkey. It was simply inaccurate and inconsistent. I'm talking about 3 - 5 foot groups at 25 yards. Why it was so bad, I don't know. Barrel shot out, or excessive wear on the slide or rail? No idea, and didn't even care to find out. I quickly got rid of it and purchased a stainless Ruger GP100 revolver with a 6 inch barrel chambered in .357 Magnum. Great shooting gun, and No problems with accuracy there, even when using .38 caliber rounds for plinking. Real bitch to get the powder burns off though afterwards. Lots of elbow grease was needed! Lol. I still have it. Cheers
My first 1911 purchased is an AMT Hardballer. What a piece of junk. It was a jammamatic on anything other than FMJ. The rear adjustable sight would fly off when the cross pin fell off. I finally reppaced it with a roll lin to keep it from popping off.
@@hollywoodgunsyeah and they werent all polished up like you wanted to do to the thing. They looked pretty much like yours does right now.. just leave it be. Even back in the day, AMT had a bad reputation for jamming, everything they made jammed including that .380 you showed. The Hardballer had a cool look with that long slide and it was in Terminator but still they didnt sell due to AMTs reputation for making jamamatics, bad metallurgy. A Springfield Armory or Colt 1911 in steel would blow a AMT away in cyclic reliability. Nothing AMT cycled , the worst being the 30 carbine automag pistol.. expensive junk.
@@hollywoodgunswell think about it, they are selling that pistol as a hunting 45 but it can't cycle hollowpoints of the time.. why would hunt with a 45 In FMJ when for a fraction of the price you can have a Smith 586 in .357 that shoots any 357 rout you can stuff into the cylinder, not to mention all the 41mag and 44mag that was out there. Then for LESS money than the AMT you can get a Springfield or a Colt 1911 that will cycle hollowpoints.. there were companies making long slide and barrel in steel that worked great for pretty short money out of a newsprint magazine we had called Shotgun News , it was a FFL dealer magazine that allowed anyone to order anything as long as it was not a lower receiver with a serial number on it , see here in the US only the receiver is a gun legally, the rest of it was just parts , anyone can order parts. well you could just order longer slides and barrels made by little 1911 shops. much cheaper and more relaible.
@@hollywoodguns, but yeah they could cycle FMJ but for hunting you gotta cycle HP rounds and in 45, well that's a real fat open mouth to hang up during the cycle.. so not really a hunting gun either.. its a target gun, but not accurate enough ..
A friend of mine had a the 45 version and after handling it, I started a search. Once I found they were later made in my fetish caliber of 10mm (then much less popular, except for nerds like me!) I had to have one. After a long search I found the later Javelina which is the same pistol in my beloved 10mm. The very used and abused one that I bought had a trigger pull of 10.5 pounds (I could see the hammer actually move back slightly before releasing). I put all new internals on it as I want it as a shooter not an ugly horrible safe queen. I scrounged and bought parts until I had good functioning and gave it over to my gunsmith who did some magic with it! Safety snaps firm and crisp and the trigger is now sharp!. I have scored hits on a milk jug at 100 yards. I was originally going to send it to Robar to do their "Special" contrasting where I would have the slide and other parts in black, internals in NP3 and the frame left alone. Sadly Robar shut down before I could have it done. Anyway, I got a semi-custom leather holster from Simply Rugged and have carried it deer hunting. Mine works with all ammo but needs a little more gunsmith work (my gunsmith has since retired) on the mag release to raise the magazine a little higher to reliably strip off the first round of a magazine from a locked open slide. When firing, there have been no jams. I wish I had some his tory for these pistols. I will look around and see if I have any other paperwork. Great Video!!!
Miami Vice but the 2nd or 3rd season. The 1st season Crockett carried and used the Bren 10 10mm. There were issues. A lot of them. So the producting changed to the S&W.
@hollywoodguns It's true. Another popular fact- producers, Michael Mann wanted props to use stainless steel, nickel guns to show up on screen. Mann also wanted big flames 💥 blasts with blanks.
Way Kool, yep in the early days of semi auto stainless steel guns, they made for trouble. I've read if the barrel, slide and frame are made from different steel alloys that will take care of the gaulling problem.
Crockets pistol from Miami vice S&W model 645. There was a target version 745 on the market at the same time. Just subbed . I love movie firearms. Been in to them since 83 and learned a lot about there functions and barrel plugs. Look forward to going through you library of videos especially the 92f . That's next on my watch.
Crocketts' season 1 gun was the Holy Grail Bren Ten, then the FBI dropped it for the 40sw, so the show anticipated the 10mm demise along with the Bren Ten model and went with the SW645
Try S&B ammo. I stumbled upon mine shooting it very accurately. 99% of the ammo my two have shot is of my own hand loads and they are very spicey. They were actually designed for bowling pin matches. I have tried to get my hands on every AMT pistol made. It is a hard thing to do. I love your videos. When you start collecting it is a quest to find some guns. I started collecting what I thought would be an easy collection to have, Ruger semi auto pistols,,,,,,that now is not an easy thing to do. Keep up the videos! Us gun folks love them!
I bought one of these back in '85 or '86 from the gun store I worked at. It was rough to say the least. It needed a lot of work to make it smooth and accurate. A real bitch to find holsters for too. Once I had our gunsmith finish the trigger which out of the box was ungodly, a new micro bushing, bobbed hammer, slide tightening and new sites made it a pretty decent pistol. A noteworthy discussion piece at the range is about it now. Guys ask about it, but I rarely shoot it. That said, it does look pretty cool on my safe. I bought a Randall Curtis LeMay edition at the same time and shot the Randall far more.
I'm wondering if mine has had any work done on it...... Other than it not feeding HP, its trigger and action is much smoother than any other period 1911 clone I own.....
My AMT Hardballer Long Slide was used for unlimited bowling pin matches. I have two, lubrication is the key to keeping all totally stainless autos running. The same thing will happen with the 645 you have. All the Smiths that were semiauto pistol’s had to have generous lubrication. All my 1911 stainless guns are no different. The wrong slide that you have can and we’ll handle 45 ACP major loads.
As cool as the modern weapons are, a video on the Sharp’s rifle from Quigley Down Under with some details about the effective range and accuracy of those long guns would definitely get a watch and a like from me and probably a few others.
Fun fact: Arnold had to have the cable running up his sleeve and through his jacket and down other sleeve to the switch in the other hand to activate the laser. You can see his fist closed in the club scene when he nearly shoots Sarah.
@@hollywoodguns I believe Crocketts main sidearms as the cop character were: Season 1 pilot - Browning BDA (Sig P220) Seasons 1-2: Bren 10 like you stated Seasons 3-4: SW 645 Season 5: SW 4506. Season 5 he has his alter ego due to amnesia and I believe carries an Sig P226; terrible story line lol.
I follow multiple restoration channels on UA-cam. There’s many companies out there that could CAD that logo on the slide and re-etch the slide. Also, while protecting the slide with material, the rest of the sidearm could be bead blasted again.
Great video! I think a lot of 1911s will only feed full metal jacket or hardnose rounds. Unless you spend big money, of course. All the 1911s I have ever had (I've got 4) will only feed fmj rounds.
You forgot the other movie in which this gun had a lead role. 1996's The Phantom starring Billy Zane. He dual carried two of these with a blued finish.
I don't have the .45 Hardballer, but that is terrible accuracy in my experience. The Automag V (50AE) and III (30 carbine) are usable out to 100 yards shooting 12"/30cm plates. Thanks for sharing this historic firearm.
Fun fact: You can actually make a pistol with a slide and barrel of an indeterminate length and it will still work. I've seen pistols with 16 inch slides and barrels, and that's a long slide.
I thought IWI or IAI purchased the rights and produced the Javelina variant? Too bad someone marred that unit up. It was my first 45. I missed it dearly. Thanks for the video.
Also the first LongSlide I know of was being worked and produced in 1979 and selling them in 80 or 81. I have a Purchase Registration from 1980 that came in the box for mine but the serial numbers on it don’t match the gun so the can’t really say it was for a HardBaller LongSlide
I would imagine at the time things like bead blasting and stainless finishes on a 1911 and the laser etching were all cutting-edge, kind of like buying a DeLorean.
"The .45 has a large, heavy bullet moving at slow speed compared to the modern 9 millimeter..." Just making the point that the 9mm cartridge is actually four years older than the .45ACP.
@@hollywoodguns Yes, the 9mm Parabellum was invented in 1901 in the Luger pistol as a necked-up .30 (aka 7.65mm) Luger. The .45ACP came along in 1905 with the Colt M1905 pistol. Both were developed because the calibers they replaced (.30 Luger and .38ACP) were considered too weak for military use.
@@hollywoodgunsyeah 45acp in fmj was better than 9mm in the ww2 era. 45 FMJ was more physically traumatic than 9mm fmj. The exact load the Germans were using in 9mm back then wasn't modern either, a guy has a video of him pulling bullets from German ww2 rounds and it weighed only 100gr instead of 115gr, and the round chronoed pretty slow.. more like a hot .380 round instead of a modern 9mm load. Back in the 40s if you had to go into combat with a pistol you wanted a 1911 in 45.. and Germans had those also.. Germans were issued a mis mash of pistols, mostly Star 9mm pistols from Spain, lots of MP40s were actually licensed copies of the MP40 made by Star... but yeah some Germans were issued colt 1911s that were bought before the war started with us.
Just a note: I just came upon your channel, and I really like it. I like the mix of movie, of gun, of showcasing the gun, of gun history, and then more movie. Good job GunTuber.
The sound effect of the AMT Hardballer gunfire was changed for the DVD release of The Terminator. The VHS sound effect sounded WAY more aggressive. By the way, no Hardballer in Predator according to IMFDB.
First pistol I ever owned was an AMT "back-up" 40 cal subcompact. I bought it for $175 bux and sold it for $225. It was such a heavey pull it was almost impossible to be even remotely accurate
The funny thing about .45 ACP is it doesn't have much power to burn off, so you get very marginal gains on every inch after the first four or five inches, compared to 9mm or .40/10mm that will generate significantly more velocity with those extra inches. You do get the extra sight radius for user accuracy and long slide reciprocation for a bit smoother shooting. Idk youtube is censoring.
You mentioned around 2 minutes into the video that you have polished firearms up to a shine before - it might be cool to have an episode where you show how to do that, what to watch out for, etc.
Thanks for that suggestion - I will add that as a future video for sure. My quick tip is Flitz metal polish! 1 coat, 20 seconds leave on and a quick buff off to brighten old, dulled Blueing. Several applications and a lot of elbow grease for stainless steel guns though because you cannot polish away the finish.
The reason they used the Para Ordinance 9mm in Hitman is 45 acp are really unreliable in blanks. Pulp Fiction used the Star 9mm, which are Spanish 9mm copies of the 45acp 1911.
@ from what they told me the first one is in the Smithsonian, they also had a newer Production one and a Custom L.E. JURRAS, standard setup, if it was one of his custom Long Hunting ones I’d probably got it. Also sorry for all the replies, I should have put them in a thread so you didn’t have to reply to 3 of them
Beautiful weapon that AMT hardballer. A dream weapon because it was used in the first Terminator. I myself am proud of my Bren Ten, made by Dornaus & Dixon Enterprises Inc. I bought it in 1984. I really feel like Sonny Crockett from Miami Vice. When I have it in my hand. I think your movie gun collection is really cool. Which is your new holy grail?
Anyway, can you recognize the 1911 pistol that Coolio used in Red Water (2003). I can't really tell either it's government model or star model because I noticed an external extractor of the pistol.
I searched all my resource sites for IDing guns and came up with nothing I'm afraid. No google images either of him holding a gun. Maybe someone else on this channel can help? I'll pin the comment and see if anyone chimes in for you.
Google image search of "red water 2003 movie coolio gun" brought up an image of the 1911 in question, but not enough to really tell specifically. Given it was a TV movie budget, probably something like a Rock Island Armory. Hope this sheds some light on the subject.
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@@theRealSlimJD Let me know if you figure it out please!
@@hollywoodguns it looks to me like an early series 80, but there weren’t a lot of good angles on my image search. But the finish, the raised rear sights, and the barrel crowning would suggest about 10 different late 80s/early 90s models. I am POSITIVE the internet will correct me, but I’m gonna place my money on a series 80 Colt Government, I couldn’t see enough of the extractor to lean Star
Agent 47 helped the hardballer remain relevant
Exactly. The Silverballers are my favorite. The other plated ones look good, but the silver just looks so sweet.
Him and Leon S. Kennedy. Moreso Agent 47 than Leon considering the latter used a Colt with a similar assembly to the hardballer.
There he is! 12:03
Timothy olyphant was using para ordinance 45s which are not made anymore, In the hitman movie you need to do your research better
@@myerkord Im pretty sure he was referencing the computer games though with the "Silverballer"
I like that it's clearly labelled "LONG SLIDE" so you don't mistake it for a normal one
Lmao
Lmao Fr like that barrel isn’t almost rifle length lol
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😂😂 true.
AMT was ahead of their time. Always loved the .30 carbine. Would love to own one.
Agreed - AMT is awesome. I haven't shot a 30 carbine - So many calibers, so little time!
@@hollywoodgunsI was the original owner from 1994 of a brand new amt automag III .30 Carbine. What a unique setup. Hoot to shoot! Recently sold it to my nephew. It was just time to pass it on to another admirer.
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See... my position is that, judging from the way the Terminator "bought" the guns in T1, but then in T2 we see him hiding a shotgun in a box of roses -- I figure that something very similar must have gone down at the Florists. We need some kind of deleted scene were they're pretty much hashing out the same dialogue as in the gunstore, only it's all about *flowers.* Eventually the Terminator surreptitiously fills a spray bottle with water...
FLORIST: You can't do that--
TERMINATOR: Wrong!
And he sprays the Florist in the face.
Thats a great plot idea.
I always assumed it was a joke about the soundtrack (Guns n Roses).
I would pay $1000 for a special edition with that deleted scene. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ahhamartinIt was.
@@ahhamartin It was
The S&W 645 was actually in not just 1 but 2 hit tv-series .
Obviously it was Crockett 's gun in the later seasons of Miami Vice, but it was also the main sidearm for Michael Chiklis' character in The Shield and I believe that Denzel also carried 2 of them in Training Day.
Absolutely iconic pistol.
I was about to say the shield
@@williamburns7472 Actually, in The Shield it was a 4506 the next Gen pistol. They only made the 645 for like 3 years and Miami Vice is the only "major" show it was on that I can recall. (And my wife complains how I ruin all shows having firearms with my complaints about usage, effects, bullet counts, and more!)
@@darylmorningI’ll take your word. So only Miami Vice…..awesome! Thanks 👌🇺🇸🙏
Those were 4506's 45acp in Training Day
@darryllittle7705 I forgot to mention the Training Day pistols so, thanks!
The DeLorean DMC12 of firearms.
Quality and options wise both total losers.
That’s a great analogy👍
the DeLorean is famous because of a movie but in reality the car is terrible.
@@Punisher6791 the car was already very famous before the Back to the future movies.
Actually it was the first few hundred cars that was terrible, because the workforce that build them were inexperienced with car building. The quality of the cars quickly improved.
The nail in the coffin was the engine was underpowered, the car was too expensive, and it was released during a recession.
The only reason the Delores is bad is because of the engine
My literal Favorite 1911. This gun alone started my lifelong love for 1911's and handguns in general
I could have sworn that his gun was a Colt Delta Elite 10mm this whole time. 😯 I’m shocked.
@davemccage7918 The Delta Elite would've been a good choice too but still not *quite* the fit. The bigger caliber definitely sells the heft of the character themselves but the sci-fi esque look of the laser atop the AMT makes Arnie more futuristic in appearance
@@danteyoung5752 I think it was the same shallow laser etching that the Delta Elite had that confused me. Never even heard of AMT until this video.
@davemccage7918 From what I've been told the Hardballer had some jamming issues along with a lot of user error (Not using hot enough ammunition to cycle the long slide) so you didn't really miss out on anything. Slap a long slide on a delta elite with a comp and you'd have a better preforming/harder thumping handgun. Just try not to die inside when you realize the delta elite won't ever be made again and you just long-slided an original 😂
For anyone wondering about the Predator cameo, I'm not sure it shows up in the first film but it is in the 2nd one at the beginning when Danny Glover pops the trunk to find the right gun for the job, he grabs the long slide and comments that it's "..too small" as a little jab at Arnold/Terminator
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Yes i noticed that refference as well
I was gonna say iv never seen it in a movie iv seen 1000 times but remember it now in predator 2
bought one on my 21st birthday 35 years ago, the gun always gets attention when you get it out , and shoots great , has been a fun gun to have all those years , 5 years ago had it taken apart for inspection and had to replace the main spring , I told the gunsmith doing the work he can shoot it , and he said he was definitely going to shoot it and told me 20 oz bottles was no problem at 50 yards , after it was cleaned up and gone over I haven't fired it , gun is set up for hard balls , may drop a light recoil spring in it and try light loads at some point
Back in the mid 90's they sold Hardballer slide kits.
I bought one and paired it with a ParaOrd high capacity frame.
I took a green pad and removed all that logo and warning label from the slide.
That thing is SO accurate even at long distances (75 yards).
In Resident Evil 4 they pay homage to Terminator by including a 1911 with that same laser module as one of their “magnum” pistols, however the pistol itself is your early 1911 5” government sized varient. In the remake they make it resemble a more sensible LAR Grizzly which was an actual magnum pistol, still has the Terminator laser tho.
"Stranger, STRANGER....now THATS a weapon!"
Hell yeah it does.
Stanger "What are you buying?"
@@bedfordshiremodeller4491.... "NOT enough cash, stranger."
The movie Sniper starring Tom Barringer has an LAR Grizzly. Only movie I know to feature one. It's way underrated as it's probably the only good Magnum pistol in reality. The Wildey Mag, Auto Mag other Browning Auto Mag (no affiliation to Browning/Fabrique Nationale de Herstal/Winchester), the new Auto Mag, or the piece of shit Desert Eagle that got way too much attention for a pistol that NEVER worked. The LAR Grizzly, it cycles, was available in many calibers including .50 AE, and was a true beefed up pistol capable of shooting full power 10mm Auto, .40 S&W, .45 Win Mag, 9mm Win Mag, and a few others. It's one of those pistol that should have been far more popular. Like the Lincoln Navigator versus the absolute trash Cadillac Escalade that sells 10x more units because of rap, celebrities, movies and so on.
I had a chance to buy one prior to the Trudeau BS gun bans during May 20, 2020, but didn't have $2000 for it. It was the usual .45 Winchester Magnum. It would have been cool, outside of ever finding ammo or even casings for in Canada. Buffalo Bore and Underwood are all I know who load for the .45 Win Mag. Maybe Corebon, or some boutique companies, but all of which are near impossible to get ammo for. Or parts for that matter.
i always loved the S&W revolver style sights on these
I am a big fan of this format! Thank you for the videos, I look forward to binge watching them.
Awesome, thank you!
Many years ago,I got to shoot a Longslide with one of those lazers in CA.it was a mock up owned by a friend with a different but close adaption of the laser in Terminator.He had also added a muzzle break to this.The thing shot like a .22 target pistol ,little to no recoil and accurate as Hell.Just point the dot and squeeze off the trigger.Just feed it FMJ ammo,it wasn't happy with anything else.I belive he did get it to function,more,in the end by a lot of polishing of ramps and slide rails etc.Seemed like a lot of work for little return as 45 ACP ammo was still cheap and he reloaded a lot. Loved that gun and would love to get my hands on one over her in Europe.
Honest patina is not a bad thing for a classic firearm often times just like antiques people tend ruin an original finish in an attempt to "clean" an item, certified restoration exist for certain reasons other than that a good firearm should be allowed to age naturally 👌
I fell in love with the way those guns shoot. The feel of that long spring compressing gives a soft recoil like no other 45. Used to shoot one at a local range. My impression was that it was often down for service, possibly because of soft metal and galling of parts. At least that's what my gunsmith said and he's the one that fixed it. They were a local company for me (Arcadia Machine and Tool), later changed to IMI? when they moved to Irwindale.
One of these days I'll get around to building one with modern materials.
The only IMI I know of is Israeli Military Industries, who made the many Uzi variants, the Galil, and the early versions of the Desert Eagle (before Magnum Research USA took over everything DE related) among other less famous weapons. I'm not sure if AMT did a name change, but if so it wouldn't be to IMI. As for the stainless thing, yeah, that was a major issue on all early 1st gen stainless guns not just from AMT. It was even worse on revolvers as a lot of early stainless ones developed dangerous frame stretch that led to catastrophic failures.
@@J.DeLaPoer IAI. Sorry, typo.
I had a used, standard length Hardballer in the late 90's in England, before the ban. It was the worst 1911 I have owned for accuracy. But it was flawlessly reliable. The slide had been polished & I personally think it's better brushed.
It's worth noting that this gun comes with an extended slide release and safety which weren't nearly as common back then, in my opinion an extended slide release is more important on a 1911 than extended safety but having both is nice and most modern high end 1911s still don't come with an extended slide release
I salute you for your research. I enjoy your videos. I learned about the problems of gauling stainless from a Larry Vickers video. He said that's why he and his Delta Force teammates usued carbon steel slides and frames from Caspian and Springfield. He said they just couldn't tune the stainless to be reliable and of course talking about the 1980's and early 90's. Things are completely different today
I recall a review in the UK of the AMT Hardballer and the problems of gauling , apparently Smith and Wesson and
Colt solved the problem differently, one company used heat treatment on the slide and frame and the other used
different grades of stainless steel on the slide and frame
I just watched the Terminator. Now I want one
I can attest to the function issues with the.45ACP Longslide (AMT) as well as the 10mm Javelina Longslide (IAI). I can recall going thru a full mag with either gun without a failure only one time. IMO, it was more due to the weight of the long slide slowing cycling (slide velocity) down more than anything else. The .45ACP was my first 1911 due entirely to T1, the Jav the second. Turned me away from 1911s after from the experience until a couple decades later when I wanted to give them another shot with a then very low cost GI model Rock Island Arsenal which ran flawlessly. This burst the dam.
Mine is the later IAI version of this and all the markings are near 100%. I shot one mag of ball ammo when I got it, about 20ish years ago. It functioned fine with low recoil. A few years ago I made an attempt to get the laser and it was a dead end. I do also have a 380 backup DOA and it actually shoots reliably. There was also a run of hardballers under the brand Galena and I got one in original box/etc long ago. They are really just collection pieces now.
I got one!! Series 70 trigger. Love it! And it does turn heads on the range
If you know, you know, so to speak - it’s a real head turner and conversation starter at the range.
For such a rare firearm, this has been modded into a surprising amount of video games. I currently have 10 games with this pistol in all three versions from the movie. I think I could find at least 10 more games where this pistol is either in the base game or added with a mod.
Miami Vice!!
That was the Bren Ten Don Johnson was rocking with Tubbs
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@@tylernathan7985in seasons 1 and 2 you are correct. But after that sonny carried the 645 throughout the rest of the show
@@IanMeschwitzseason 3 and 4
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4506 in season 5.
I saw it back in '84 in the movie. Very cool. I currently own a Colt Combat Commander with a Crimson Trace lasergrip. They are both smaller than Arnold's gear, which is appropriate since I am much smaller than Arnold also.
Absolutely love the terminator 1 an 2 movies and seeing the gun he used in T1 is awesome
Glad to be of service!
I have no idea when they ended production of the Longslide but I worked for a firearms importer in Sydney Australia during the mid 90s and we bought a few of these in around 1996. along with the 5" Hardballer and the little Automag II which was great fun. I don't know the manufacturer but Billy Zane also carried twin 45 longslides in 1996s The Phantom.
Yup he did indeed
it's fascinating to think that the laser sight mounted atop of the longslide was from laser products, which would then go on to become surefire.
My father bought two AMT 380 Backups back in the early 1980s, He sold one to a friend, and the other was carried in his briefcase for a few years. The finish is all beat to heck even though the gun has barely been fired. I think most of AMT's stainless guns suffered from easily scuffed finishes.
That dulled patina sits well on it in my opinion.
Excellent video! We need Hollywood gun vids! Probably single handedly saved gun culture in the 90s!
In 1996 The Phantom, Billy Zane dual wielded Hardballers and of cause Bruce Campbell in 2007 My Name Is Bruce.
No, that was a .36 Longbow...
@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443But he correct about the twin AMT hardballers in The phantom film
Fun fact in regards to the difficulty of producing reliable stainless steel (SS) semi-auto firearms. Magnum Research spent around a decade developing the DE-50-SRMB (DE=Desert Eagle, 50=50AE, SRMB=Stainless/Rail/Muzzle Brake). The slide, frame, and barrel are each made from a different SS alloy. This was done to alleviate metal galling. Two of the alloys are medical grade SS.
I was fortunate enough to shoot a 44mag DEagle back in the '80s, didn't get the "must own" urge until the SS version hit the market.
Thats really interesting about the different grades of SS - thanks for the comment.
Awesome gun and The Terminator is one of my all time favorite movies. They go so well together. Keep up the good work.
Yes Sir! will keep grinding.
The hardballer is such a sexy gun, tho. If they weren't so rare/expensive, I'd pick one up when I'm finally old enough to own a gun!
Fantastic piece. I'm a fan of AMT stuff, as my first rifle was an AMT Lightning 10/22 in brushed nickel.
Should have never parted with it.
I own a Llama 380. Was my first personally owned pistol. So cool to see another llama out there.
Is yours the 2/3 size one? I have one of those too and I love it.
@hollywoodguns yea its a cool piece an pretty old. Not the most reliable thing though.
There is a video game called "Terminator Resistance." In the dlc "Infiltrator mode" and "Beyond The Annihilation Line" you can find the ATM Hard baller with laser sights. Might be as close as we'll get to seeing another one in media.
Dude.... Agent 47 uses Hardballers in Every. Single. Hitman. Game!
@rvanhees89 yeah just not the long slide. They looked like your standard length 1911A1.
@@wadewilson8303 point taken, I stand corrected
There is no other gun I wanted sooooooooo bad from a hollywood movie than this one right here.
Extremely cool movie and model.
What an absolute beauty.
What the Heck?😮👍
Love the content so far! This is definitely more of the stuff I wanna see for firearms related channels!
Beautiful pieces sir!
I had an older series 70 colt (stainless) that had a similar brushed slide and bead blasted frame… I did a little polishing to buff out the idiot mark left by the former owner. “000 steel wool, flitz buffing compound, and a micro fiber cloth did the trick. 👍
The stainless needs to be a specific hardness in the frame and slide to prevent (yes the term is galling) . This was a problem early on for even S&W. Lama is an under rated and decent priced gun. Had a 380 some years ago currently have a Super Comanche 6 inch in 44 mag.
I had a Llama back in the 1990's, and that thing was junk. Couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it. It wasn't because of my inability of using firearms, because I had been familiar with them from the age of 6 or 7. I hunted just about every game animal on a yearly basis besides turkey. It was simply inaccurate and inconsistent. I'm talking about 3 - 5 foot groups at 25 yards. Why it was so bad, I don't know. Barrel shot out, or excessive wear on the slide or rail? No idea, and didn't even care to find out. I quickly got rid of it and purchased a stainless Ruger GP100 revolver with a 6 inch barrel chambered in .357 Magnum. Great shooting gun, and No problems with accuracy there, even when using .38 caliber rounds for plinking. Real bitch to get the powder burns off though afterwards. Lots of elbow grease was needed! Lol. I still have it. Cheers
I proudly own one of these. It’s a beast!!
My favourite gun, amt hardballer long slide, still my dream❤😮
The Smith is our boy's Victor Samuel Mackey's piece, form the GOAT of all GOAT tv shows, The Shield. That's Vic Mackeys legendary gun.
not quite. The gun in the shield was the model that came after the 645 - The 4506.
My first 1911 purchased is an AMT Hardballer. What a piece of junk. It was a jammamatic on anything other than FMJ. The rear adjustable sight would fly off when the cross pin fell off. I finally reppaced it with a roll lin to keep it from popping off.
LOL - I cant argue with you, but I love em anyways!
@@hollywoodgunsyeah and they werent all polished up like you wanted to do to the thing. They looked pretty much like yours does right now.. just leave it be. Even back in the day, AMT had a bad reputation for jamming, everything they made jammed including that .380 you showed. The Hardballer had a cool look with that long slide and it was in Terminator but still they didnt sell due to AMTs reputation for making jamamatics, bad metallurgy. A Springfield Armory or Colt 1911 in steel would blow a AMT away in cyclic reliability. Nothing AMT cycled , the worst being the 30 carbine automag pistol.. expensive junk.
@@Gloomshadow100 good to know, thanks. Glad I didnt Bubba mine. Also, I only had mine jam on flat nose and HPs, so I guess I must be lucky.
@@hollywoodgunswell think about it, they are selling that pistol as a hunting 45 but it can't cycle hollowpoints of the time.. why would hunt with a 45 In FMJ when for a fraction of the price you can have a Smith 586 in .357 that shoots any 357 rout you can stuff into the cylinder, not to mention all the 41mag and 44mag that was out there. Then for LESS money than the AMT you can get a Springfield or a Colt 1911 that will cycle hollowpoints.. there were companies making long slide and barrel in steel that worked great for pretty short money out of a newsprint magazine we had called Shotgun News , it was a FFL dealer magazine that allowed anyone to order anything as long as it was not a lower receiver with a serial number on it , see here in the US only the receiver is a gun legally, the rest of it was just parts , anyone can order parts. well you could just order longer slides and barrels made by little 1911 shops. much cheaper and more relaible.
@@hollywoodguns, but yeah they could cycle FMJ but for hunting you gotta cycle HP rounds and in 45, well that's a real fat open mouth to hang up during the cycle.. so not really a hunting gun either.. its a target gun, but not accurate enough ..
A friend of mine had a the 45 version and after handling it, I started a search. Once I found they were later made in my fetish caliber of 10mm (then much less popular, except for nerds like me!) I had to have one. After a long search I found the later Javelina which is the same pistol in my beloved 10mm. The very used and abused one that I bought had a trigger pull of 10.5 pounds (I could see the hammer actually move back slightly before releasing). I put all new internals on it as I want it as a shooter not an ugly horrible safe queen. I scrounged and bought parts until I had good functioning and gave it over to my gunsmith who did some magic with it! Safety snaps firm and crisp and the trigger is now sharp!. I have scored hits on a milk jug at 100 yards. I was originally going to send it to Robar to do their "Special" contrasting where I would have the slide and other parts in black, internals in NP3 and the frame left alone. Sadly Robar shut down before I could have it done. Anyway, I got a semi-custom leather holster from Simply Rugged and have carried it deer hunting. Mine works with all ammo but needs a little more gunsmith work (my gunsmith has since retired) on the mag release to raise the magazine a little higher to reliably strip off the first round of a magazine from a locked open slide. When firing, there have been no jams. I wish I had some his tory for these pistols. I will look around and see if I have any other paperwork. Great Video!!!
Thanks Bart for that back story. I would also like a Javelina in 10mm. Deer hunting with it would be cool!
Miami Vice but the 2nd or 3rd season. The 1st season Crockett carried and used the Bren 10 10mm. There were issues. A lot of them. So the producting changed to the S&W.
Re: issues: I also heard that they couldn't get 10mm blanks so the Bren was rebarreled to fire 45ACP blanks instead...... Not sure if true though.
@hollywoodguns It's true. Another popular fact- producers, Michael Mann wanted props to use stainless steel, nickel guns to show up on screen. Mann also wanted big flames 💥 blasts with blanks.
Way Kool, yep in the early days of semi auto stainless steel guns, they made for trouble. I've read if the barrel, slide and frame are made from different steel alloys that will take care of the gaulling problem.
Gorgeous gun. Deffinitely will be one of my first buys if i win the lottery.
Crockets pistol from Miami vice S&W model 645. There was a target version 745 on the market at the same time. Just subbed . I love movie firearms. Been in to them since 83 and learned a lot about there functions and barrel plugs. Look forward to going through you library of videos especially the 92f . That's next on my watch.
Thanks Andrew!
Crocketts' season 1 gun was the Holy Grail Bren Ten, then the FBI dropped it for the 40sw, so the show anticipated the 10mm demise along with the Bren Ten model and went with the SW645
Try S&B ammo. I stumbled upon mine shooting it very accurately. 99% of the ammo my two have shot is of my own hand loads and they are very spicey. They were actually designed for bowling pin matches. I have tried to get my hands on every AMT pistol made. It is a hard thing to do. I love your videos. When you start collecting it is a quest to find some guns. I started collecting what I thought would be an easy collection to have, Ruger semi auto pistols,,,,,,that now is not an easy thing to do. Keep up the videos! Us gun folks love them!
Love the video. “I’ll be back” to your channel to watch more videos!
Thanks mate!
I bought one of these back in '85 or '86 from the gun store I worked at. It was rough to say the least. It needed a lot of work to make it smooth and accurate. A real bitch to find holsters for too. Once I had our gunsmith finish the trigger which out of the box was ungodly, a new micro bushing, bobbed hammer, slide tightening and new sites made it a pretty decent pistol. A noteworthy discussion piece at the range is about it now. Guys ask about it, but I rarely shoot it. That said, it does look pretty cool on my safe. I bought a Randall Curtis LeMay edition at the same time and shot the Randall far more.
I'm wondering if mine has had any work done on it...... Other than it not feeding HP, its trigger and action is much smoother than any other period 1911 clone I own.....
It always bugged me that a robot needed a laser sight 😂. Awesome gun dude!
LOL - You're right though!
I'm not sure if it's suggested that he specifically needs it.
I think it's just a big pistol that looks cool on film.
This my dream gun next to the sig sauer p220 sport model
Yeah the S&W 645 was in Miami Vice. My dad had one he used on the force
You got it and now there is a video on my channel covering it in Miami Vice. Take a look and let me know what you think!
Author and culture trend setter Dr Hunter S Thompson 🍸 used a S&W 645 .45 to "unalive" himself.
My AMT Hardballer Long Slide was used for unlimited bowling pin matches. I have two, lubrication is the key to keeping all totally stainless autos running. The same thing will happen with the 645 you have. All the Smiths that were semiauto pistol’s had to have generous lubrication. All my 1911 stainless guns are no different. The wrong slide that you have can and we’ll handle 45 ACP major loads.
Can’t wait for The A Team videos
Its finished, but in final editing. I am burning the midnight oil to get it up on Friday this week!
@ I’ll hit the notification bell thank you!
As cool as the modern weapons are, a video on the Sharp’s rifle from Quigley Down Under with some details about the effective range and accuracy of those long guns would definitely get a watch and a like from me and probably a few others.
calling a 114 year old pistol "modern" is funny
Sorry, I thought the Hardballer was made between 1977 & 2002….
Well done video, I always thought the firearms in the original Terminator were far more interesting than those in the sequals.
Fun fact: Arnold had to have the cable running up his sleeve and through his jacket and down other sleeve to the switch in the other hand to activate the laser. You can see his fist closed in the club scene when he nearly shoots Sarah.
Arnold spent countless hours working with the firearm's before shooting the scenes to help add authenticity to the scenes
Miami Vice and a very nice collection my good man!
Thank you Sir!
@@hollywoodguns Was that a different timeframe than the Bren 10?
@@jerrymason7887 If I understand your question, Yes. The Bren 10 was used in Seasons 1 and 2.
@@hollywoodguns
I believe Crocketts main sidearms as the cop character were:
Season 1 pilot - Browning BDA (Sig P220)
Seasons 1-2: Bren 10 like you stated
Seasons 3-4: SW 645
Season 5: SW 4506. Season 5 he has his alter ego due to amnesia and I believe carries an Sig P226; terrible story line lol.
@@edwardantanitus3449don't forget the Detonics Combat Master he carried in an ankle holster
I personally love the petina. A gun with blemishes has character.
I follow multiple restoration channels on UA-cam. There’s many companies out there that could CAD that logo on the slide and re-etch the slide. Also, while protecting the slide with material, the rest of the sidearm could be bead blasted again.
Great video! I think a lot of 1911s will only feed full metal jacket or hardnose rounds. Unless you spend big money, of course. All the 1911s I have ever had (I've got 4) will only feed fmj rounds.
Interesting. I must try that out in my 1911s. I generally only shoot FMJ in them because of cost and because I dont carry one....
You have impeccable taste my friend, I subbed as soon as I saw the miami vice SW 645. Added one to my collection last year!
Also appeared in Killer 7 and Resident Evil 4 both by Capcom.
You forgot the other movie in which this gun had a lead role. 1996's The Phantom starring Billy Zane. He dual carried two of these with a blued finish.
I just looked that one up as I had not seen it. Yes, it looks like he did. Thanks for that.
what were the guns in the shadow
@@nikolasspade2700 A 6"long slide custom 1911 made by LAR Manufacturing chambered in .45 Win Mag. They called it the Grizzly......
I don't have the .45 Hardballer, but that is terrible accuracy in my experience. The Automag V (50AE) and III (30 carbine) are usable out to 100 yards shooting 12"/30cm plates.
Thanks for sharing this historic firearm.
Fun fact: You can actually make a pistol with a slide and barrel of an indeterminate length and it will still work. I've seen pistols with 16 inch slides and barrels, and that's a long slide.
My unicorn pistol. I wish someone would bring back the AMT hardballer with the 7 inch barrel back
I thought IWI or IAI purchased the rights and produced the Javelina variant? Too bad someone marred that unit up. It was my first 45. I missed it dearly. Thanks for the video.
AMT's Hardballer Long Slide was first produced in 1980. (According to the Wikipedia Page)
Good to know, thanks.
Gotta love a good ole 1911. With a big ole honker out front!
The S&W was used in the T.V. show "HUNTER"
Also the first LongSlide I know of was being worked and produced in 1979 and selling them in 80 or 81. I have a Purchase Registration from 1980 that came in the box for mine but the serial numbers on it don’t match the gun so the can’t really say it was for a HardBaller LongSlide
Thanks for this. Looks like from other comments, we are zeroing in on 1979 - 1980 for the first Hardballer Longslide production.
Miami Vice for the SW. But he did also have a Bren Ten, which imho is cooler 😉
I would imagine at the time things like bead blasting and stainless finishes on a 1911 and the laser etching were all cutting-edge, kind of like buying a DeLorean.
I am never selling my Automag III. So sweet.
I want to find the 10mm Magnum version. Crazy pistols.
That'll be the Javelina right?
@@hollywoodguns The Javelina was chambered in 10mm. The Automag III is chambered in .30 Carbine.
I want one just to display what a cool piece of movie history.
Nice to see the safety check at the beginning
"The .45 has a large, heavy bullet moving at slow speed compared to the modern 9 millimeter..."
Just making the point that the 9mm cartridge is actually four years older than the .45ACP.
huh - Good catch - I did not know that!
@@hollywoodguns Yes, the 9mm Parabellum was invented in 1901 in the Luger pistol as a necked-up .30 (aka 7.65mm) Luger. The .45ACP came along in 1905 with the Colt M1905 pistol. Both were developed because the calibers they replaced (.30 Luger and .38ACP) were considered too weak for military use.
@@hollywoodgunsyeah 45acp in fmj was better than 9mm in the ww2 era. 45 FMJ was more physically traumatic than 9mm fmj. The exact load the Germans were using in 9mm back then wasn't modern either, a guy has a video of him pulling bullets from German ww2 rounds and it weighed only 100gr instead of 115gr, and the round chronoed pretty slow.. more like a hot .380 round instead of a modern 9mm load. Back in the 40s if you had to go into combat with a pistol you wanted a 1911 in 45.. and Germans had those also.. Germans were issued a mis mash of pistols, mostly Star 9mm pistols from Spain, lots of MP40s were actually licensed copies of the MP40 made by Star... but yeah some Germans were issued colt 1911s that were bought before the war started with us.
@@Gloomshadow100 All this is fascinating detail to me. Thanks for sharing that info.
Just a note: I just came upon your channel, and I really like it. I like the mix of movie, of gun, of showcasing the gun, of gun history, and then more movie. Good job GunTuber.
Thanks David!
The sound effect of the AMT Hardballer gunfire was changed for the DVD release of The Terminator. The VHS sound effect sounded WAY more aggressive.
By the way, no Hardballer in Predator according to IMFDB.
Predator 2 - Look up the Car trunk gun choosing scene on IMFDB.
First pistol I ever owned was an AMT "back-up" 40 cal subcompact. I bought it for $175 bux and sold it for $225. It was such a heavey pull it was almost impossible to be even remotely accurate
Love to see a part 2 if you can find a laser for it...
The funny thing about .45 ACP is it doesn't have much power to burn off, so you get very marginal gains on every inch after the first four or five inches, compared to 9mm or .40/10mm that will generate significantly more velocity with those extra inches.
You do get the extra sight radius for user accuracy and long slide reciprocation for a bit smoother shooting. Idk youtube is censoring.
You mentioned around 2 minutes into the video that you have polished firearms up to a shine before - it might be cool to have an episode where you show how to do that, what to watch out for, etc.
Thanks for that suggestion - I will add that as a future video for sure. My quick tip is Flitz metal polish! 1 coat, 20 seconds leave on and a quick buff off to brighten old, dulled Blueing. Several applications and a lot of elbow grease for stainless steel guns though because you cannot polish away the finish.
Good idea
The reason they used the Para Ordinance 9mm in Hitman is 45 acp are really unreliable in blanks. Pulp Fiction used the Star 9mm, which are Spanish 9mm copies of the 45acp 1911.
Saw the Second prototype AutoMag 180 for 15k at a Vegas Gunshow during ShotShow this year
Wow, considering a production model sells for $3-5K thats not as high as I would have thought it would be offered for....
@ from what they told me the first one is in the Smithsonian, they also had a newer Production one and a Custom L.E. JURRAS, standard setup, if it was one of his custom Long Hunting ones I’d probably got it. Also sorry for all the replies, I should have put them in a thread so you didn’t have to reply to 3 of them
Agent 47s guns from the original Hitman game
His were silver ballers if I recall correctly
Beautiful weapon that AMT hardballer. A dream weapon because it was used in the first Terminator. I myself am proud of my Bren Ten, made by Dornaus & Dixon Enterprises Inc. I bought it in 1984. I really feel like Sonny Crockett from Miami Vice. When I have it in my hand. I think your movie gun collection is really cool. Which is your new holy grail?
It made an appearance in Firefly when it was used to shoot Mal
In every CoD, I remake this gun exact and alwayssss think back to the gun store scene.
Hey, Just what you see Pal.
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