The TOXIC World of The Biggest Loser: TVs WORST Nightmare | Downfall

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    The toxic world and downfall of The Biggest Loser is worse than we ever thought and took a shocking turn when contestants finally spoke out. The end of The Biggest Loser and Jillian Michaels has exposed more than ever thought possible on the worst show on TV ever. The lies, The Biggest Loser empire. We need to talk about The Biggest Loser. Something doesn’t sit right in this web of lies and deflection…
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    00:00:00:00 Intro
    00:13:00:01 What Is the Biggest Loser?
    00:18:17:15 Bad Form
    00:26:24:14 Sidebar
    00:31:55:18 Expert Side Eye
    00:37:39:19 The Biggest Problem
    00:42:55:06 Tough Love?
    00:54:13:08 Jillian Did a Bad Thing
    00:58:02:08 Rachel Fredrickson
    01:01:25:23 Crossing the Yellow Line
    01:04:48:04 Kai Hibbard
    01:18:14:04 The Silence
    01:21:55:16 The Downfall
    01:32:38:00 Epilogue
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  • @PettyUniversity
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  • @Alliecatlives
    @Alliecatlives 5 місяців тому +5540

    Hey swoop. I'm a 2013 diamond ranch academy student. They were all over the news in 2022 for the passing of Taylor Goodridges. But in 2013 a boy passed away, we suffered massive abuse and our suits are hitting dead ends. For years police in the area ignored police reports filed by the children escaping that school. Because of this being ignored and our voices being silented alot of us fell out of the statute of limitations. I can get you in touch with other survivors and the group unsilenced. Please help by covering the nightmare of diamond ranch academy, and spread light on the troubled teen industry in Utah! Literally 20 minutes from saint George. Please cover diamond ranch academy. I've emailed, there is an active case on Dennis Mitchell the "doctor" I mean the physicians assistant that worked there preforming "gyno exams" alone on girls 12-18. But that's just the beginning of the sus pool of employees.

    • @SkwithOv
      @SkwithOv 5 місяців тому +118

      omg that's horrible

    • @rebekahwashburn8136
      @rebekahwashburn8136 5 місяців тому +206

      One of my friends got sent there from the east coast by her mom. I would love coverage of that

    • @kalisederoche
      @kalisederoche 5 місяців тому +120

      i would want more info on this! the public should know whats going on

    • @Kiara24dm
      @Kiara24dm 5 місяців тому +48

      @swoop

    • @NovalieSweet
      @NovalieSweet 5 місяців тому +113

      Did you send it to her social medias? Make sure you do if you didn't.

  • @candacesalim9659
    @candacesalim9659 5 місяців тому +1900

    I literally was threatened to be on this show by my parents they wanted me to watch every episode as motivation. I only got larger. More food, more anxiety, and depression. It wasn't until I became a mother that I started walking, eating healthy, and 8 years later, I was 240 pounds lighter. Got to meet Beyoncé won a trip and clothes by her Mommas brand. All because I did this life remodel on my own without hate, shame, and manipulation. I've kept it off since 2013, and my life has never been what it was when this show and society were so on the bandwagon that this was more than okay. Thanks, Swoop, for bringing this into the forefront. ❤

    • @emilycatlady3595
      @emilycatlady3595 5 місяців тому +42

      Wow good on you! Congrats on living your life for yourself ❤🥰

    • @grxcedn
      @grxcedn 5 місяців тому +37

      i’m so so PROUD OF YOU!!! from one stranger to another you’re killing it!! 💕

    • @annavictrix
      @annavictrix 5 місяців тому +22

      Thank you for being a positive inspiration and rejecting what was forced on you as a kid.

    • @vickyb6943
      @vickyb6943 5 місяців тому +12

      Definitely hope I'm able to gain more motivation like this.

    • @CaydenTheys
      @CaydenTheys 5 місяців тому +22

      Congratulations! Your comment made me think about what's holding me back. I have a lot of negativity in my life that I've been fighting hard against. It hasn't (thankfully) been weight related. But you sharing your story made me realize that has hard as I've been trying to tune out, ignore, and combat those forces, they still do effect me. Now to figure out what to do about it, because cutting it out is not going to be easy.

  • @es0516
    @es0516 5 місяців тому +321

    This show is proof that bullying people into losing weight is NOT effective. It creates more stress, more guilt, more trauma and ultimately makes people’s relationship with food and their body worse. I really hope one day as a society EVERYONE realizes kindness is the best approach. Empathy goes a long way, but people think because someone is overweight the deserve to be treated like crap. It’s sick and it needs to stop.

    • @corneliahanimann2173
      @corneliahanimann2173 3 місяці тому

      Not to counter your argument, i agree with it, but everytime in my life I said that I'm not a fan of body shaming because it is not effective, someone pushed back at me and said that these people need a reality check. I myself am not even overweight, but when I talked to them, they usually turned out to be overweight, and I feel like maybe there is a bad truth out here that overweight people cope with their feelings by joining in on the body shaming... it's interesting, i just noticed that more overweight people seemed to be doing the body shaming than I have seen skinny people do it.

    • @lindenshepherd6085
      @lindenshepherd6085 2 місяці тому +4

      Minority groups of all sorts tend to be their own biggest critics because they’re the most aware of how the majority judges them. Women tear each other down for not being feminine enough/too feminine, black people tear each other down for acting like stereotypes/not being “black enough”, and overweight people police each other for being overweight and for losing weight.
      Body shaming is not helpful for getting people to change long term, it’s coming from the same fundamental worldview that your existence as a fat person is bad and won’t get better until you lose weight.

    • @corneliahanimann2173
      @corneliahanimann2173 2 місяці тому +2

      @@lindenshepherd6085 yes, that is what I was getting at, it is hard to tell these groups that this attitude doesn't help, when you are not one of them.

    • @HangingWithMelissa
      @HangingWithMelissa 7 днів тому +1

      You are right.

  • @504CreoleCrystal
    @504CreoleCrystal 5 місяців тому +229

    I am a Hurricane Katrina survivor from New Orleans who lost everything. I was stranded in another state, sleeping in my car with my daughter for days. Her father was killed in May of 2005 so single motherhood was new to me. We had no way to know what happened. I made it to my aunts home 3 hours away. I ended up in Milwaukee…far away from anything I knew. I remember just gaining so much weight…depression, overeating, you name it. I used to watch this show and emailed them so many times to be on it!
    I’m now glad I didn’t!!
    It’s taken me a while from me to lose this weight. I got up to 260 and I’m only 5’2. I’m down to 185 and counting.

    • @audreym3908
      @audreym3908 3 місяці тому +10

      I'm glad that you weren't on it too. I am so sorry for your loss and i hope you and your daughter are doing well.

    • @user-mf6lo3tf4c
      @user-mf6lo3tf4c 3 місяці тому +6

      Im very sorry for your loss that's so horrible, also great job on your weight loss! You can do it.

    • @GaySatanicClowns
      @GaySatanicClowns 3 місяці тому +1

      You must be so proud of yourself because you're doing awesome. I'm very sorry for what you went through, but I'm so glad you pulled through. ❤

    • @504CreoleCrystal
      @504CreoleCrystal 3 місяці тому +6

      @@audreym3908 thank you! She is but it’s taken a while. She just had my 1st grand baby and we’re both learning! This grandma thing isn’t as easy as I thought lol

    • @504CreoleCrystal
      @504CreoleCrystal 3 місяці тому

      @@user-mf6lo3tf4c thank you for your kind words!

  • @jrelevates1574
    @jrelevates1574 5 місяців тому +818

    Jillians issues are her personality.... and can't believe people pay her for abuse. She is just fundamentally mean.

    • @THEDubbleHelixx
      @THEDubbleHelixx 5 місяців тому +78

      Yea, those clips of her were horrific. She sounded someone who needs therapy because her childhood bullying destroyed her.

    • @carhiful
      @carhiful 5 місяців тому +42

      Jillian is a narcissistic grifter, she doesn't care about anyone other than herself, and her motivation is and has always been money!
      Most people could never be deliberately verbally abusive to another person, it takes someone with a lack of empathy to do that!
      This show was absolutely disgusting, the creators and the coaches had no interest in helping the contestants, they wanted to make a lot of money!

    • @ProteinShowdown
      @ProteinShowdown 5 місяців тому +8

      I don't know I feel like a lot of what she does in the show has to be scripted or staged at least

    • @kittykat16
      @kittykat16 5 місяців тому +21

      And to think she was once a bigger person you’d think she’d be more understanding instead of someone who appeared to have drank the fatphobic koolaid and became a bully.

    • @smkeybare
      @smkeybare 5 місяців тому +10

      @@ProteinShowdown yeah i think some people forget there's whole camera crew in front of them. She is totally hamming it up for the camera.

  • @roseaesthetic7969
    @roseaesthetic7969 5 місяців тому +446

    Jillian reminds me of the type of person who really wants to be in the military but doesn't want to go through all the testing and training BUT they act like it anyways to feed their fragile ego.

    • @Weds.Addams
      @Weds.Addams 5 місяців тому +44

      This is such a good description of her (except I don't think she would even make it through military training because of her attitude).

    • @roseaesthetic7969
      @roseaesthetic7969 5 місяців тому +33

      @@Weds.Addams Exactly. She just REALLY wants to be a Drill Instructor lol

    • @meganprice5124
      @meganprice5124 5 місяців тому +1

    • @mosessupposes2571
      @mosessupposes2571 5 місяців тому +12

      Like a cop

    • @breannawilliamson9787
      @breannawilliamson9787 5 місяців тому +2

      Yes 🤣

  • @alyzu4755
    @alyzu4755 5 місяців тому +103

    I was a Pilates instructor when this show was on. So many of my clients berated themselves for not losing massive amounts of weight quickly, like the contestants on TBL. I'd tell them over and over that it was a TV show, it wasn't actually real, and it certainly wasnt healthy. I could tell they didn't believe me, and they grew more and more frustrated. It was so very sad.
    And the way the trainers on the show treated the contestants was repulsive.

  • @sierramcwenie6700
    @sierramcwenie6700 5 місяців тому +400

    I literally spent my formative years watching this show. Never missed an episode. How I didn't develop an eating disorder from watching every single episode of this show is beyond me.

    • @marinaavant
      @marinaavant 5 місяців тому +9

      Same I think because we didn't have social media back then like it is now

    • @TheCrazygirl786
      @TheCrazygirl786 5 місяців тому +4

      I was hooked on this show when I was younger. I’m shocked I don’t have any eating disorders too

    • @Butterflyflyflyflyflyfly
      @Butterflyflyflyflyflyfly 5 місяців тому +16

      I developed severe anorexia in my mid teens. I have no doubt watching a show like this as a young child alongside having a fat-phobic parent caused me to develop one. Took me 9 years to beat the beast!

    • @oceancrux3810
      @oceancrux3810 5 місяців тому +3

      I did too and unfortunately have a lot of issues with food.

    • @Adelaide_Cuthbert
      @Adelaide_Cuthbert 3 місяці тому +3

      I grew up watching it with my mom. It was certainly a spectacle, and even though my mom had been fat (and still is), it definitely gave me a mean girl mentality for years of disgust and apathy for overweight people, including my mom (and she doubled down that fat = ugly, though never directly berated herself). Just like that one producer said, I always watched that show with the thought of "I'm so glad I don't look like that; I don't understand how people gorge themselves to that point", while I saw a bit of curves as fine, full overweight bodies always made me sneer down my nose in a condescending way. I am not proud of that, and before anyone judges, I was between the ages of 9 to 12. I was a literal child when that show was relevant in my own "mother-daughter tv bonding time". As I grew, even into my teenagehood and stopped watching reality competition tv, including Dance Moms, American Idol, Dances with the Stars, etc., I grew out of that mentality and nurtured compassion, empathy, a moral compass, and just common human decency. I myself have gained a significant amount of weight the past 3/4 years (I'm 25 now), because of being in an abusive situation where I was controlled completely (ranging from not being able to leave the house, to financials, to what food I was forced to consume). I've since escaped that situation and have been on a physical and mental/emotional healing journey that includes weight loss, and boy can I tell you, my own mom's lack of support/sympathy/etc. is not surprising when this video popped up and reminded me of what trashy shit she had me watching as a kid. And again, she's been overweight my entire life, and I believe it has effected her ability to walk properly now in her age (there's other factors, like arthritis and an old injury in her knee at play, but it's clear she never took care of her body). Ever since I got away from that toxic mindset, I never viewed my mom as lesser for being bigger. But the complete hypocrisy and expectation of perfection out of me (in all areas, like career, relationships, sexual orientation, religion, and fashion to name a few), truly disgusts me than being fat ever did. It's the lack of humanity for me. And while I'm on my journey, I'm just so super happy I never truly developed any eating disorders from the trauma and broke that cycle of fat/body shaming that is so prevelent in society and my mother's side of the family. I'm really lucky and grateful this didn't fuck me up on a more permanent level. We are better than this.

  • @BiggerinRealLife
    @BiggerinRealLife 5 місяців тому +370

    I used to watch this show and even thought about being a contestant. Until I saw a girl I was friends with in high school on, who made it to one of the top finalists. The way they exploited some very personal family trauma of hers absolutely disgusted me, especially because she was always such a private person, even her closest friends didn’t know what had happened to her, she was just always this very quiet, sweet, withdrawn girl. They used her pain for entertainment, which I always knew reality tv did, but the shock of finding out private, really dark stuff about someone I used to eat lunch with was jarring and felt intensely wrong. It opened my eyes to how exploitative this show in particular was, and I started to research how the people fared once they were off the show. Needless to say I never applied.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 5 місяців тому +30

      Dang I hope she is doing ok now.

    • @rosemulet
      @rosemulet 5 місяців тому +3

      Wait which contestant was your friend? What season was this?

    • @BiggerinRealLife
      @BiggerinRealLife 5 місяців тому +44

      @@rosemulet thanks for asking, but she's gone pretty dark in the aftermath on social media, and I'm going to respect her privacy. I didn't name her in the initial post because of this, as well. Thanks for your understanding.

    • @hotpinkcrayolas
      @hotpinkcrayolas 5 місяців тому +22

      ​@@BiggerinRealLifeGood on you for respecting your friend's privacy and not including her name. I hope she's come out of it all ok x

    • @BiggerinRealLife
      @BiggerinRealLife 5 місяців тому +9

      @@hotpinkcrayolas me too. 🖤

  • @haechansabeoji
    @haechansabeoji 5 місяців тому +198

    When I was around the age 4/5, my plus-sized mom auditioned for the biggest loser. She was told that she didn’t weigh enough for the show; I’m pretty sure (not completely certain, I could be misremembering) that they alluded that she had to gain weight if she wanted to be on the show. The idea of gaining weight to be deemed eligible enough for a WEIGHT LOSS show is just mind-boggling to me. Needless to say, my mom has never been a contestant.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 5 місяців тому +19

      Thank goodness. She might have ended up with serious medical issues.

    • @primaveradel78
      @primaveradel78 5 місяців тому +4

      People do it all the time in my country (gain weight to have the ok on free weight loss surgery). It's sad.

    • @Ilikebigbooties
      @Ilikebigbooties 5 місяців тому

      My mom auditioned too. She was devastated she wasn’t accepted. She genuinely thought it would be her only chance. They probably told my mom something similar.
      We even have her audition tape and I watched it a couple years ago and it just broke my heart. She was able to do a biggest loser camp type thing. But it didn’t help and made her feel worse about herself. She is still considered obese. And it hurts my heart to see how much she hates herself, especially 20 years ago. And I blame some of that hatred on this dumbass show.

    • @karls432
      @karls432 5 місяців тому +4

      That’s probably true, I’ve even heard of people being told to gain weight to be eligible for a gastric band here in the U.K.. it’s shocking when we all now know that it’s as easy as giving gym memberships and making healthy food more affordable to motivate people to lose weight!

    • @felix0-014
      @felix0-014 5 місяців тому +2

      Probably a good thing. If you don't have an extra 100+ lb to lose she probably would have been bullied into being underweight to compete number wise with other contestants

  • @CryptidCafe
    @CryptidCafe 5 місяців тому +427

    I always thought Jillian was putting on an act like Gordon Ramsey, but he's actually a lovely person in real life

    • @Lyrtha
      @Lyrtha 5 місяців тому +16

      Ramsey is hit or miss too sadly.

    • @AlexJohns-kw2um
      @AlexJohns-kw2um 5 місяців тому +26

      ​@@Lyrthano. He's a sweet caring guy

    • @Lyrtha
      @Lyrtha 5 місяців тому +7

      @@AlexJohns-kw2um nah

    • @jonnigoulding4950
      @jonnigoulding4950 5 місяців тому +5

      That's what I figured too like it was a caricature of herself.

    • @sweariefaerie9621
      @sweariefaerie9621 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@AlexJohns-kw2um Everyone has shit days, tho.

  • @StefSoleil
    @StefSoleil 5 місяців тому +109

    Jillian blocked me on Instagram 😂 She commented on a video by Celeste Barber saying how much she loved Celeste for showing "real bodies." I said that was rich coming from Jillian effing Michaels, the person who caused disordered eating and body image issues in soooo many people. Jillian's fans freaked out on me, then she blocked me 😂

    • @Imjustkendall
      @Imjustkendall 2 місяці тому +5

      STOP THAT IS SO REAL.

    • @junebug2005
      @junebug2005 21 день тому +2

      Absolute legend for what you said, sad they came for you for looking out for others.

    • @TheAndromeda24
      @TheAndromeda24 9 днів тому +1

      Awesome😂💯💯💯

    • @butterfliii73
      @butterfliii73 6 днів тому +1

      Good for you! 💜💜💜💜

    • @ashleykathryn9038
      @ashleykathryn9038 6 днів тому

      She's also saved a lot of people from heart disease but I guess the health doesn't matter.

  • @kallialvarez7215
    @kallialvarez7215 5 місяців тому +539

    i remember my parents were obsessed with this show and it genuinely ruined my relationship with weight and food with all the comments they would give surrounding the show,,, especially being disappointed that people would gain weight back… im glad ive been able to watch people calling out this show and how problematic it truly was

    • @omfghailmao
      @omfghailmao 5 місяців тому +32

      SAME fucking same. It ruined my life tbh. My parents watched media like this and pushed it on to me as a kid. Fucked me up so bad, gave me a horrible ED. I'm sure so many people can relate.

    • @kaelynw4047
      @kaelynw4047 5 місяців тому +1

      This 1000%

    • @strudelh
      @strudelh 5 місяців тому +13

      Me too, I used to watch the show to fuel my ed, same with any other shows like this. And I think the only weight loss show I like is "fit to fat to fit" if anyone has seen that lol.
      But regardless it's disgusting how this show was aired, now with 18 SEASONS!

    • @Nicole-zh7pl
      @Nicole-zh7pl 5 місяців тому +5

      I remember watching in and thinking "This can't be healthy"

    • @AntoinetteChanel
      @AntoinetteChanel 5 місяців тому +6

      I hope you're able to form a healthy relationship with food and body image today. I don't think we speak enough about how common and misunderstood eating disorders are, and I hope that as people continue to call this type of content out, we can all be nicer to ourselves and each other.

  • @mu8242
    @mu8242 5 місяців тому +612

    As a Louisiana resident who has dealt with the aftermath of Katrina and so many other hurricanes, thank you for the way you depicted and explained it. Just the mention of Katrina made me feel a little panicky. So many people I know have hurricane trauma, so thank you for presenting it as the devastating event as it was.

    • @kristajones7202
      @kristajones7202 5 місяців тому +30

      I am wishing you peace. It's not the same, but I think I can relate a little, having lived through a major wildfire. 23 years later and I still panic. I can't imagine a hurricane 💜

    • @gonzovii5803
      @gonzovii5803 5 місяців тому +18

      Mississippi Gulf Coast here - I feel the exact same way. Hope you're well.

    • @mrscal2004
      @mrscal2004 5 місяців тому +19

      You too? Metairie resident. Yup, I teared up.

    • @addie1080
      @addie1080 5 місяців тому +8

      I can't imagine what you went through, I hope you and your loved ones are doing well ❤

    • @cherishlynn5496
      @cherishlynn5496 5 місяців тому +15

      Came here to say this!
      People truly forget or don't realize that there's STILL damage from this. And there's STILL people who can't go back to their homes/one of the most BEAUTIFUL places.

  • @bushidobride
    @bushidobride 5 місяців тому +162

    Swoop from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much for covering this. My mother and brother would often shame me for being fat and would "jokingly" say that they would force me to go on the show. I was a tween/teen when the show came out. My grandmother forced me to go into Weight Watchers and not only did I develop an eating disorder, my spending also went out of control. I am no longer in contact with my brother and barely speak to my mom and grandmother for all of the harm they have caused me. Now, I'm a happily, married adult and after years of therapy, the happiest and healthiest I've ever been. Thank you for showing me and others like me the empathy and humanity we deserve. The little girl and teenager in me feels validated and healed thanks to your love and empathy.

  • @private755
    @private755 5 місяців тому +42

    I lost a hundred pounds over a few years and managed to keep it off. I created my own exercise routine based on patience, long term goals, acceptance, and encouragement. Forcing people to change out of shame and ridicule was a HUGE theme of the early 2000s (I was there) and I can happily report based on my own life that all that shame is extremely unnecessary and does way more harm to self esteem than any temporary weight lost does to boost it.

    • @AW-uv3cb
      @AW-uv3cb 4 місяці тому +2

      Yours sounds like a reasonable approach. Or, in fact, the only healthy and effective approach in long perspective. How can one expect to keep up with exercise and a healthy way of eating if 1) they ramp it up to an unsustainable degree, 2) they're made to feel like it's a punishment instead of something positive they're doing for themselves.

  • @eurydicefiori865
    @eurydicefiori865 5 місяців тому +393

    this is why I had to stop watching TV altogether, especially those trashy reality shows, because all they do is exploit the most vulnerable people for the world's sick entertainment

    • @zoe9190
      @zoe9190 5 місяців тому +21

      I refuse to watch any of the reality shows. Almost all reality shows endorse toxic relationships, whether it be with other people or with food, clothes and ourself. Theres only a few shows ive seen where its not like that

    • @Shawnne86
      @Shawnne86 5 місяців тому

      All reality tv is trash. Idk who is supporting it at this point.

    • @annavictrix
      @annavictrix 5 місяців тому +6

      You know what, this around the time when I stopped watching network television like that too. This was an era of extreme suffering as entertainment.

    • @annavictrix
      @annavictrix 5 місяців тому +1

      You know what, this around the time when I stopped watching network television like that too. This was an era of extreme suffering as entertainment.

    • @AstarothFox
      @AstarothFox 5 місяців тому +1

      Was looking to see if someone mentioned Dr Phil McGraw on this comment yet. I love how the guy who did Bum Fights schooled Phil.

  • @sashagabor76
    @sashagabor76 5 місяців тому +187

    A good friend of mine was on this show and she did great, she lost over 100 lb and came in second, but within 6 months, she, along with almost everyone else in her season, had gained it all back plus more.
    She always says she gained a lifelong friend and a lifetime of problems for every pound she lost. I'm so glad you're covering this!

    • @wonderfulday77
      @wonderfulday77 Місяць тому

      Wow, that’s some serious eating to gain 100 lbs in 6 months. Why would she choose to gain it all back?

    • @autumnmoonfire3944
      @autumnmoonfire3944 6 днів тому

      We are recognizing that most diets, that put your metabolism into starvation mode will result in gaining back the weight, now GLP1 drugs are beginning to help, but they seem to need to be permanent. We won’t know for a while f this will prove to have other problems. Science has to figure out how to either pull the body out of starvation mode or prove GLP1s safe for the long haul.
      As I age I have to say I’d bet on staying on a GLP1 (if I can get them in the first place.) I’m willing to join a research project if I can get the encouragement I need, on an ongoing basis, but as of now I really have nowhere to turn and a lack of trust that the systems I need won’t go poof, because it’s happened before.

  • @tesst.your.strength
    @tesst.your.strength 5 місяців тому +108

    As a personal trainer with 5+ years of Kinesiology education this show disgusted me in so many ways and makes me absolutely angry that this was even a good idea to be a show. The trainers goal should be creating a welcoming and supportive environment. The way the trainers treated them in this show is heart breaking. I could never imagine screaming in my clients faces and making abusive threats the way Jillian did. Any form of misconduct in coaching just sends me to Petty University and back so I had to get that off my chest after seeing this video 🤣
    Another great video Swoop thank you for covering this!

    • @donjuanmckenzie4897
      @donjuanmckenzie4897 3 місяці тому

      Did Louie Simmons create a welcoming supportive environment for his athletes? 😂

  • @Stefanie_Thompson_Fithian
    @Stefanie_Thompson_Fithian 5 місяців тому +286

    Hi Swoop. I don't have much money but I had to do something. I was contemplating removing myself from the world. Couldn't shut my mind off and than i proceeded to notice your lat6est video posted. When you started taking about self worth. You really inspire me. You inspired me to the point that I've changed how I feel about myself. Especially seeing the backbone hoodie and your valid collection. You stopped my contemplation and I've decided I am valid! Swoop, you saved my life. I don't know how to truly thank you. 💖💖💖💖

    • @bitchpepper
      @bitchpepper 5 місяців тому +2

      I know you dont know me, but I am glad to see you are still here. I have struggled with depression and an eating disorder for a long time so I have been where you are. Stay strong.

    • @Stefanie_Thompson_Fithian
      @Stefanie_Thompson_Fithian 5 місяців тому +14

      @@bitchpepper Thank you very much. It's been a real struggle. I'm still struggling. But its people like you who stop to say a kind word that is keeping me from giving up. I just hope Swoop sees this at least. I want her to know how much she helps us. 💖

    • @georginacat7667
      @georginacat7667 5 місяців тому +3

      She doesn't need that money please don't go short, that $2 literally holds a value of less than 1/2 cent to her, so unless it means the same to you, please keep it

    • @Stefanie_Thompson_Fithian
      @Stefanie_Thompson_Fithian 5 місяців тому +34

      @@georginacat7667 I was simply trying to show kindness. Why after reading my post would you proceed to put me down? There shouldn't be a $2 option if it doesn't help in anyway
      I truly hope Swoop doesn't see it that way. I pray she's not that kind of person. I can't imagine her seeing it that way. She seems to genuinely loves her subscribers. She will always be my hero. She talked me down off the ledge. I'll never be able to repay that debt. 💖💖

    • @Zzz2x
      @Zzz2x 5 місяців тому +16

      Hi!! I’m a fan of swoops too. Her videos have helped me for a very long time. I will always support her for her messages that come from the heart, that’s are meant for people like us struggling! I’m glad you’re still here! whenever you see this, I hope that something makes you smile soon, and I hope you enjoy that moment! Cause we gotta hang on to all the tiny moments like that. Keep your head up!
      You have good taste, im certain you’re a good person and we need you here

  • @taylarlabree
    @taylarlabree 5 місяців тому +149

    I’m using the phrase “Jack and Jill went up the hill to fetch a pail of bullshit” at least once a day for the rest of my life thank you Swoop

  • @bethanylamastus15
    @bethanylamastus15 5 місяців тому +114

    Growing up, my entire family struggled with weight, my mom even had weight loss surgery in 2013. We never watched The Biggest Loser and I remember asking my mom why we never did, since my mom at the time was obsessed with losing weight. Even she told me that show was harmful and she’d never let me watch it. I’m so grateful, because growing up overweight has it’s own baggage, I was already majorly depressed and hated the way I looked. Thank you to my mother for seeing that and not encouraging me to fall into that trap of self hatred.

  • @stephaniekern3155
    @stephaniekern3155 5 місяців тому +59

    My mom and sister were on this show 14 years ago ❤ very interesting and thank you for this content. My mom just passed away December 20 last year at 63. She suffered from major back issues after The Biggest Loser.

    • @fanoftoast
      @fanoftoast 2 місяці тому +4

      As someone who also experiences back pain, I’m so sorry your mom went through that. Back pain can be so life altering. Sorry to hear she passed. ❤️

    • @wonderfulday77
      @wonderfulday77 Місяць тому +1

      Did the show cause her back pain or something she just developed after the show? I’d imagine losing weight would help with back pain. 63 is awfully young to pass away. I’m sorry

    • @butterfliii73
      @butterfliii73 6 днів тому

      I am so sorry for your loss!

  • @makeupbyjules
    @makeupbyjules 5 місяців тому +66

    The fact that I watched this as a CHILD who struggled with weight and my relationship with food is just horrifying. I remember the one season Rachel lost TOO MUCH weight and looked so scary after! The praise with losing weight is addictive and I went on to learn that the hard way. Crazy stuff

    • @user-mf6lo3tf4c
      @user-mf6lo3tf4c 3 місяці тому

      When I was younger I would watch clips of this show on youtube and watch episodes on tv, I had an ED from 14-18 and I ended up losing 33 lbs (when I was in a healthy weight range in the first place) and I was underweight. It didn't matter how skinny I got, I only felt good about myself if I was actively losing weight. After restricting and getting to a safe environment where I didn't feel that I would be judged or bullied for what my body looked like, I started eating more again, it came back quickly and I had gained 128 lbs, which was 97 lbs overweight (113 lbs away from my goal weight) within 1 - 2 years. I was really horrible to myself and had a extremely negative and mean inner voice, I hated myself for everything that I did "wrong" and I just thought really nasty things about myself. One thing that I noticed is that I picked up a lot of these mean things I saw in media or that was just said to me about my weight, and repeated it back to myself or thinking even worse things, (at the time I thought that was the only way to lose weight and that it was "motivation" but I realize now I was just a dumb teenager with a disorder) and it kept me in that state of restricting, breaking and overeating, over exercising and round and round again. It wasn't until my partner forced me to stop, reassured me I will be loved no matter what did I get to a spot where it didn't matter, I had to develop hobbies and things I was interested in, and a year or so later when I wanted to go into changing something, it's not going to be weighing myself every week, or counting calories, working out for an hour every day or any of this stuff. Just focusing on eating healthy meals with treats and desserts in moderation, and some exercise a few times a week. You have to love yourself, hate will get you nowhere and it will just make you feel worse. I have lost 47 pounds since then and I have 66 lbs to go. You need to love yourself and praise yourself for every time you do something you wanted to do (as an example eating salmon or completing a 15 minute workout video), and don't treat yourself like you are the worst person ever for eating a few cookies. It is okay.

  • @Wyldyflower
    @Wyldyflower 5 місяців тому +413

    As someone who was 690lbs. I myself find it super annoying that people are uncomfortable with medical terms for being obese. It just adds to the blanket that the word is hurtful. It’s not hurtful it’s truthful. I also find body positivity is not all positive. If someone told it was okay to be 690lbs and made it all about beauty and acceptance i would have smacked that person (in my head of course 😂) it is okay to love yourself and okay to live and be happy, however at a certain weight you cannot live anymore. You can’t do many functions to keep living on your own. It’s unhealthy and no matter how pure the intentions are of saying love yourself as you are. Being super morbidly obese is not okay. Changing the language does not change the problem. A lot of these influencers and models who are glorifying the obese side are young. They haven’t had the major health problems the scares. One day they will wake up with their knees rubbing on knees, spine crushing spine, osteoarthritis through all their joints. I speak from experience. This goes to the opposite side of the spectrum as well. If we are going to be body positive then we need to live in reality of what that actually means. Because body positive is also enabling behavior that needs medical assistance to change. I want to be able to feel cute in my current body but also feel supported as I still try to lose weight. I feel like body positivity has put a negative on weight and talking about weight loss. It’s like if anyone says they want to lose weight the new reaction is no girl you’re beautiful like you are. Like okay??? It’s like I’m damned if I do Damned if i don’t.
    I was also on a weight loss tv show.

    • @kaylar205
      @kaylar205 5 місяців тому +90

      This is exactly how weight should be addressed. Medical professionals using diagnostic terms such as over weight, under weight, obesse, and morbidly obesse are generally not passing judgements but tracking Medical issues that may need addressed before bigger problems arise and/or educate what being an unhealthy weight can lead to down the road. Unhealthy weight is unhealthy there are health consequences and those should not be ignored (whether that be under weight, over weight, or unhealthy diet/exercise plans).and we should support those on a journey to become healthy and happy inside and out. ❤

    • @ReviewsAndMore9
      @ReviewsAndMore9 5 місяців тому +25

      Excellent points.

    • @elainelouve
      @elainelouve 5 місяців тому +47

      Body positivity is not glorifying obesity, and it doesn't encourage becoming fat. I think you might have some internalized fatphobia there.
      However I totally agree on the influencers being on the younger side, and there is a stigma on weight loss. This issue has been talked about in the community, so not everyone agrees. And most of the people I follow are ok with losing weight for health reasons. Like they get that it can be necessary. There's an activist who herself lost a huge amount of weight, and she's still promoting the basic human rights of fat people. Which is what it's all about at the core, that we deserve happiness and human rights.
      Btw this activist I mentioned never made an issue about her weight loss. She did it purely for health reasons. Not going to talk about her health, because I don't remember if she's talked about it in the public.
      Also I agree 100% that I hate how we supposedly need to avoid medical terms and even descriptions such as fat.
      What sucks from my perspective, not being from the US, that you guys need to go on a reality show in hopes of getting decent care for your health issues. It's like a dystopia, when in a better world we would recognize and have treatments for BED and other things.
      I'm now suspecting an undiagnosed ADHD might be a factor in why I'm obese. It's one of those conditions that have been criminally underdiagnosed for women, especially for us who are middle aged and older. I'm in the process of getting a diagnosis now. Weight is just one thing I have, but maintaining healthy habits is quite impossible when having routines isn't working. We are always unique in our backgrounds, how each of us got fat, and how it affects us.
      Need to add: weight is often just a symptom of underlying causes. Like the woman mentioned in the video had a traumatic experience. We need to address and treat these issues instead of just focusing on weight loss, though of course unhealthy weight can be causing other, new issues. Therapy for traumatic experiences, same as EDs and other mental health struggles should be easily available and affordable. We also need to make the worklife better, decrease stress on a societal level, tackle poverty, and make healthy foods affordable and available. It's much easier to blame individuals for "eating more than you consume", but it has never fixed the problem.

    • @vismattress5760
      @vismattress5760 5 місяців тому +36

      the internalized fat phobia is real here. body positivity isn't glorification.

    • @laikanbarth
      @laikanbarth 5 місяців тому +60

      @@elainelouveSure, Jan that’s why all of these body positivity people get angry when any overweight celebrity or influencer decides to get healthy or loses weight. It’s TOXIC!!!

  • @patriciaschiro2659
    @patriciaschiro2659 5 місяців тому +170

    This show was problematic for me. I’m a recovering anorexic and when this show came out I was deep into my issues. To watch people loss tremendous amounts of weight in a week made me think I could do that as well. At 5’7” and 90lbs before the birth of my son; I was so upset to weigh 120lbs postpartum. I even got the work out video of one of the coaches.
    This show hurt the contestants as well as the audience with unrealistic goals.
    I’m glad you are doing this deep dive.

    • @Old_Goth_Lady
      @Old_Goth_Lady 5 місяців тому +7

      I’m an anorexic in recovery as well. This show was what I watched to keep myself “motivated” in restriction. It fersure contributed to my disorder.

    • @katherinedonaldson7884
      @katherinedonaldson7884 5 місяців тому +7

      i hope both of you wonderful people live long and happy lives. peace and love from another person recovering from anorexia

    • @RexytheRexy
      @RexytheRexy 5 місяців тому +6

      I've been struggling with anorexia since I was 12. Health, happiness, care, and love to you. I hope you're all enjoying your lives and comfortable in your bodies. You're beautiful. 💜

    • @silverdoe9477
      @silverdoe9477 4 місяці тому +3

      I was anorexic all my teenage years into my twenties, growing up in the midst of “size zero” mania. I was also obsessed with any show about weight or food & I can still find them triggering.
      I’m overweight now, because of epilepsy-meds which was probably & ironically caused by extreme malnutrition. We need to be kind to our bodies. ❤ Break this cycle & raise our voice against these shows.

  • @oatmealsoup6763
    @oatmealsoup6763 5 місяців тому +56

    my parents LOVED the biggest loser so much that they binge watched most of the series earlier this year. I watched it with them and i remember they had this new coach that only lasted a single season, but she always got really big numbers from the contestants and when I was watching her season I realized that she was the only coach that tried to connect and empathize with the contestants. like she wasn't verbally abusing these people and most, if not all, of her team made it to the second half of the show. i like to think she left after seeing the conditions the contestants were put under, but i wish there were more people like her on the show that actually cared for these people instead of treating them like cattle

    • @sharyna
      @sharyna 5 місяців тому +4

      This is the most sane comment here. I cannot believe anyone would come for this show.

    • @ofthedarknessthemoonlight5412
      @ofthedarknessthemoonlight5412 3 місяці тому +2

      Being forced to shower without privacy is a huge setup for people who've experienced SA. Can't help but think that the show producers were actively trying to create "drama." Drama like that kills people. Just one of the incredibly unhealthy, careless, callous, and downright dangerous tactics this show has used.

    • @ofthedarknessthemoonlight5412
      @ofthedarknessthemoonlight5412 3 місяці тому +1

      This is my third comment, because this show is UNREAL! I cannot imagine the horror of realizing that a contract has locked you into this incredibly abusive existence for the duration. Thank you forever for doing this doc, Swoop. I so appreciate your intelligence, your thoughtful approach, and your kindness toward those who've been forced to suffer with this kind of unbelievable crap. I'm going to try to shut up now, but this is APPALLING! I think these producers belong in jail for criminal neglect. When you take people away from their homes and place them in a living situation that they cannot leave without being sued, you have a duty of care. This was completely neglected, and the producers endangered lives.

  • @bli3ko
    @bli3ko 5 місяців тому +16

    For anyone who’s interested: The Minnesota Starvation Experiment was a study conducted from 1944-1945 to examine the effects of post-war famine. In it, a group of healthy young men were fed a 1500-1600 calorie diet in addition to a minimum exercise requirement of 22 miles per week (~ 3 miles per day, equivalent to one hour of walking at a moderate pace). Over the course of the experiment, they developed signs of depression, anxiety, isolation, and hyperfixation on food, including strange rituals around mealtimes - all considered symptoms of anorexia nervosa (but which are arguably symptoms of malnutrition itself). It took some of the men years after the study concluded to completely recover. The ones who didn’t had developed restrictive EDs.
    So basically yes, even in the early 2000s, there was actual scientific evidence that what happened to these people, would happen.
    The MSE is no longer considered ethical and therefore has not been repeated. Yet in the name of entertainment, it’s ok to subject people to arguably worse conditions? *THAN POST- WWII FAMINE.* Just because they exist in larger bodies.
    I hope (but also don’t hold out a lot of hope) that the contestants received proper support once they left the show. Renutrition after this kind of extreme restriction needs careful supervision, especially in cases of very low body weight or where electrolytes may be imbalanced (due to vomiting, laxative/diuretic use, or dehydration). If you are entering recovery please, PLEASE see a doctor. It’s not always just as simple as eating more. The consequences of sudden renutrition can be very serious if not promptly treated.
    Recovery is 100% worth it though 💜

  • @angelNoll10
    @angelNoll10 5 місяців тому +271

    Yes this show is the EPITOME of diet-culture. My mom would watch it all the time growing up. I was shamed by my weight at 11 developed anorexia nervosa purge subtype. This show is fat-phobic in nature and contributed to many EDs over the years. In treatment we talk about things like EC and harmful diet-culture shows such as this which contribute to the epidemic of disordered eating and normalization of disordered eating

    • @cmcallon7682
      @cmcallon7682 5 місяців тому +8

      This show was how I learnt to count calories. I was obsessed with JM. Still struggling with an eating disorder to this day. While I don't blame the show it tipped me over the edge. I'm just glad social media didn't exist at the time.

    • @sophiavanerio
      @sophiavanerio 5 місяців тому +6

      It’s so sad how so many of us struggled with EDs because of trash TV, diet culture, and parents who fell for it and put it on our shoulders as well. Thank you for being so vulnerable and telling your story ❤

    • @alisonmercer5946
      @alisonmercer5946 5 місяців тому +1

      Gosh I can't imagine telling m my child to lose weight or make her think there is anything wrong with her

  • @shaunajaynebellerose916
    @shaunajaynebellerose916 5 місяців тому +113

    I can shed some light on the origin story for you. I worked for the company who had the original concept bought by the biggest loser. It was a Canadian production called taking it off by Anaid productions. After the biggest loser bought the concept and the original pilot season, taking it off became x-weighted. Both shows were gross. I have so many stories of the producers and directors being completely abusive to contestants. After the company moved and I no longer worked for them, they actually did a show called x-weighted families and they exploited kids. Thanks for doing these docs. You are my favourite UA-cam creator! ❤ me some Swoop docs!

  • @angelasteed156
    @angelasteed156 5 місяців тому +37

    My obsession with this show had me demonizing my post partum body instead of being amazed at what it had done in growing, birthing, and feeding my child.
    It has taken me years to work through my terrible diet culture mindset. I think it will be a lifetime journey, however I am better at calling out fat phobic nonsense. I'm also much better at appreciating my body for what it can do and has done for me.
    Thank you for this doc. As always, it was so very well done.❤

  • @cheese7119
    @cheese7119 5 місяців тому +148

    This is literally my comfort channel, there's no shame here, no unfunny jokes, no horrible takes, it's just kindness and understandingness and it feels like we're bonding together to feel for the unfortunate people who had to go through that awful show. I'm sending hugs for all of them 🫂

    • @olexvndrv
      @olexvndrv 5 місяців тому

      Oh my goodness, my exact thoughts from yesterday. 😟😟😟

    • @demon5877
      @demon5877 5 місяців тому +7

      I'm always afraid now to say that but I feel I can here too. I had a few comfort channels who then ended up being awful. (Creep Show and Illuminati are a few) I love swoop and hope she never changes ❤

    • @ericamcdaniel4318
      @ericamcdaniel4318 5 місяців тому +2

      She does the most, all the time. Blurring out the word obese or fat on screen and verbally abbreviating it to “f”? I mean come on, all this SA, unaliving, grape crap is ridiculous. Just say the words. I hate all this censorship just because it might “trigger” someone. Ridiculous.

    • @KateCat420
      @KateCat420 5 місяців тому +9

      ​@ericamcdaniel4318 You can actually blame YT for censorship around SA and unaliving, not Swoop - if you actually watched her you'd know she's spoken out against YT for forcing her to censor things that should not need censoring.
      But go off, sis, go show us your a**.
      As for censoring the word fat in this video, that's entirely her choice. She's the content maker. Unless you have the ability to make comprehensive deep-dives, you really don't get a say over what she censors. Unless you can do it as good or better, leave it to the pros.

    • @ericamcdaniel4318
      @ericamcdaniel4318 5 місяців тому +1

      @@KateCat420 I thought you could say whatever you want but UA-cam would demonetize your channel if you don’t follow their guidelines?

  • @knitwitchpgh
    @knitwitchpgh 5 місяців тому +122

    Being a teen when this show came out, and my mom had just lost 100lbs and got obsessed with CrossFit. I personally think this show contributed to my ED. Jillian Michaels is hell on earth. Ive been waiting for these people to sue. Now as an adult using doctors and the modern understanding of our metabolisms, that RAPID weight loss can cause irreversible damage to your body and metabolism. Her and Bob ruined those people.
    Edit: I stopped watching after season like 5 but Rachels loss 😮 I'm 5'3" and have been so happy to finally be stable at 170 and I'm thicc for my height. The last time I was 105lbs, I was 17 and had an ED where I would eat applesauce in the morning with my overmedicated Adderall prescription, and then wouldn't eat again until 8pm when it finally wore off. Im 32 now and just now getting my eating habits under control with therapy, and proper ADHD and depression medication. I'm so glad this show ended. I just hate that it lasted so long

  • @aurea.
    @aurea. 5 місяців тому +241

    Jillian Michaels, Bob Harper and all others involved appall me. How can you do something like that? The whole show was a disgrace to humanity.

    • @anlydaly5726
      @anlydaly5726 5 місяців тому +20

      ESPECIALLY since when went through bullying herself! She of all people should understand how hurtful words can be but no, she instead turns around and bullied dozens of other people. How disgusting

    • @elaexplorer
      @elaexplorer 5 місяців тому +23

      ​@@anlydaly5726She was the worst. You could see the disdain in her face whenever she was supposed to be having a heart to heart with somebody. Her hatred of herself really did bleed over onto the contestants.

    • @GMStephens-rj1xx
      @GMStephens-rj1xx 5 місяців тому +11

      Bob Harper should have learned not to be such a drill sergeant after his heart attack.

    • @anlydaly5726
      @anlydaly5726 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@elaexplorerYES! She could have used her bullying to inspire her contestants as I'm sure her story would have been relatable for many of them. Yet no, she chose to abuse and belittle instead, what a waste of a person

    • @KitKatSukiKat
      @KitKatSukiKat 2 місяці тому

      Those who were bullied when younger, usually become bullies themselves!

  • @kellyflores4931
    @kellyflores4931 5 місяців тому +18

    I was in the army 8 years. Our drill sergeants would talk to us like this. And we would workout for hours a day, however we were eased into it in a way that was safe. We also signed up for the toughness. It’s crazy that a personal trainer would treat people this way.

    • @cbakker99
      @cbakker99 4 місяці тому +1

      Honestly I probably need a personal trainer like that but yeah, my experience with drill sergeants was any worse than these guys. But that’s just me.

  • @cajones5956
    @cajones5956 5 місяців тому +13

    When Hurricane Katrina is mentioned, I feel so sad for the losses people endured and the pain it still stirs up today. I felt a need to do something to help because I saw the destruction, firsthand, in Mobile, Alabama. This all brought an unexpected opportunity to learn about the need of rescuing and the impact of fostering displaced animals.

  • @LSnicket
    @LSnicket 5 місяців тому +80

    As someone who is a former athlete and used to teach people, hearing that they made people go on such a low calorie diet and then go on to these crazy workouts is wild to me. And I’m a black belt and I’ve *never* treated my students like that! Wtaf?!! You get rough to them, yes, but never to break their spirits, only to make them realize they are able to do more than they realize bc a lot of times teachers will see their potential and how amazing they are when doing a certain exercise. I’ve trained a lot of people and ALWAYS tried my best to make them safe. And this included how long they trained. You have to work hard, sure, but your body needs time to recover and grow the muscles you need.
    And, as a last thing, when I was doing 3 to 4 hours training everyday (that was my maximum that was reduced when it got closer to competition days), I ate a LOT. I’d never ask anyone to eat less when they’re going to exercise more.

  • @Elowrenadventures
    @Elowrenadventures 5 місяців тому +143

    This is so sad for me to watch as a 24 year old human with an obese yet health obsessed mother I had. She was in love with biggest loser and Julian. I always remember her making jokes about how I had the same name as her. My mom forced me onto a restrictive diet because she “was worried about me getting bullied” now at the age I am I don’t eat more than once a day and I weigh 110-120 pounds. It’s crazy how shows like this effect the modern American family over the years.

    • @Butterflyflyflyflyflyfly
      @Butterflyflyflyflyflyfly 5 місяців тому +5

      I'm so sorry you're going through this. I too had a parent that was fat-phobic and loved the biggest loser. We watched it every year and my sisters and I were very young. I developed an eating disorder at 14 and fought it for 9 long years. My sister also developed an ED. Food is not the enemy, your body is not the enemy. Allow yourself to eat at peace and enjoy fun foods. It is possible to eat at peace, I know because I did it. Take care

  • @user-qg1sm5vr5f
    @user-qg1sm5vr5f 5 місяців тому +25

    Swoop. Queen. Thank you. My mom and I watched this religiously while I was growing up. It messed me up. My body image was all that mattered for years. It was so awful. My mom didn’t help either, she would say I looked pregnant if my belly was noticeable under my clothes… I was 15/16 years old. This show was MANIPULATION at its absolute finest. To find out years later a huge portion of the show was fake … made it even worse. I’m an ED survivor

  • @Akursedtime
    @Akursedtime 5 місяців тому +25

    Looking back, its horrific the treatment the contestants had to endure. We were basically watching people getting verbally and emotionally abused and then getting gaslit that they didn't lose the weight. Everybody's body and dietary concerns are a huge spectrum.
    I'm naturally skinny but I have IBS and it means my dietary concerns are different from others. My dad and mom too have different diets because of health issues. And the fact that they introduced such a dangerous diet for INDIVIDUAL people. Its horrifying.

    • @ambersather7460
      @ambersather7460 3 місяці тому

      New to this channel, hello everyone! Im 4 videos into Swoops content and im soool hooked. Shes coming up fast behind oompaville, celinaspookyboo and MrBallen for my favorite youtubers!

  • @The.Audacity
    @The.Audacity 5 місяців тому +182

    As a person with an eating disorder, thank you for covering how problematic this show was. It has taken me decades to regain a healthy relationship with food. and realize that weight is a number, and does not define my entire self. (Nor is it even an accurate predictor of health! Habits are.) Looking forward to watching this.

    • @personincognito3989
      @personincognito3989 5 місяців тому +6

      Wait is absolutely ONE of the predictors of health. Don't let trends fool you. Medical

    • @cececox6399
      @cececox6399 5 місяців тому

      Why do fat people always delude themselves into bs like weight isn't linked to health. Hahaha 🤣 Yes. Yes it IS. If you're overweight you're DYING. I've been in a wheelchair for almost 15 YEARS and I STILL weigh just 100lbs at 5ft 2. Solely through diet. As someone who has spent a LOT of time in hospitals and physical rehab, basically OAP homes 😂 and I can tell you there's less and less obese until around 60 years plus, then there's NONE. Show me the morbidly obese person who lived to 100. Heck show me one who's 80 or even 70. I know morbidly obese people who weren't as huge as the biggest losers and he died at 33. It's literally a blatant LIE to say something as dumb as obesity isn't linked to health. Knowing FULL WELL that YOU'RE LYING and encouraging people to K!ll themselves. It's not compassionate to just sit back play along with your delusions and let you k!ll yourself. TRUE compassion is telling you to get it together. Helping you out to get healthy. NOBODY who ACTUALLY LOVES YOU supports you k!LL!ng yourself by eating yourself to death. People who say that they you're healthy being obese just don't want to deal with you starting a fight, like ALL addict's do when confronted with their addictions. They KNOW that you're not going to be around long and they're HAPPY with that and so they just put up with you while they have to. Many are also obese and like all addict's they want to drag others DOWN WITH THEM! Like how the women who couldn't get a husband, or couldn't keep one and ended up divorced, always try to ruin their friends relationships. Oh he's not good enough, he doesn't do enough/ make enough, he won't let you live the single girl club thot lifestyle so he's controlling... Get rid. Because they want someone else to be bitter and miserable with. They're NOT friends. They're enemies watching you like a car crash reality show. ☠️🤡🤦‍♀️🙅🤷‍♀️🤣

    • @josephinehenry8236
      @josephinehenry8236 5 місяців тому +8

      spelling is absolutely one of the predictors of intelligence 😂

    • @Rosietea
      @Rosietea 5 місяців тому +9

      @@personincognito3989 lmao inspired me to go buy a few chocolate bars to eat in your name. hope i gain some weight even :)

    • @beep3242
      @beep3242 5 місяців тому +8

      ​@@personincognito3989 I'll eat some honey buns for u bestie 😘

  • @aurea.
    @aurea. 5 місяців тому +66

    It sometimes feels like people won't understand how harmful bodyshaming is until they experience it themselves. While I felt othered and ignored for my weight, a friend of mine was regularly insulted by "family" and "friends," to the point of developing unhealthy habits. Shaming is not "motivation," it is not "caring." It is chipping away at a person's sense of self-worth and confidence until they start destroying themselves. What's more, the effects of that often stay even when you do change your habits. Be kind to each other, people.
    P.S.: Judging by what Jillian Michaels said about her childhood, it seems that even knowing how painful bodyshaming is won't stop you from treating others poorly... I feel for every contestant and person affected by this show.

    • @josephinehenry8236
      @josephinehenry8236 5 місяців тому +4

      🎯🎯🎯

    • @dangerxbadger2300
      @dangerxbadger2300 5 місяців тому +20

      Americans have this weirdly punitive nature about the way they view things they consider circumstances that people "brought upon themselves", like with drugs or weight or homelessness, etc. What they fail to understand is that they could be one traumatic experience away from being in those exact positions that they deem themselves so far above.

    • @julesmallow
      @julesmallow 5 місяців тому +13

      Insulting people for their weight never actually helps them. It only contributes to the feelings of guilt and shame that caused the disorder in the first place. But pretending it's tough love is how people justify their cruelty

    • @lilGreenYoshi
      @lilGreenYoshi 5 місяців тому +4

      I think that's prolly where a lot of Jillian Michaels' cruelty comes form. When she finally got more of a healthy weight, the trauma and memories of bullying never left her and is now taking it out on everyone. tho that doesn't excuse it, her behavior is still appalling, but yeah shame a vast majority of the time just makes shit worse

    • @dangerxbadger2300
      @dangerxbadger2300 5 місяців тому +2

      @juliabelyung482 Some of the people in these comments need to read yours. Especially those that don't seem to understand that just because something is TRUE doesn't make it kind or necessitate it being said. The internalized and externalized fat phobia in so many of the other comments is so depressing and triggering.

  • @DeadlyWhispers
    @DeadlyWhispers 5 місяців тому +51

    I remember watching this show growing up and crying and praying that I could go on it... I was so young 💔 I had an ED starting age 8...
    About 10 years ago my mom and I were going to the women's gym "Curves" and it was such a positive experience, but then after a year or so, for some reason, Jillian Michaels was the face of the company and we had to do really intense exercises that a lot of people wouldnt be able to do, especially if they were disabled. Before we had coaches to help us but then Jillian became our coach on the TV.... she would say stuff like "You'll be so beautiful without that extra weight. You will be beautiful in those skinny jeans" ... like EXCUSE ME?! lol my mom was so mad we ended up switching gyms and a lot of the other women did as well. We hated her messages, telling us we were basically just sad ugly fat people... we used to feel so good going to the gym, but then after Jillian, we'd leave feeling worse about ourselves and our bodies.

    • @ametrineambrosia4929
      @ametrineambrosia4929 4 місяці тому +1

      Curves? Literally Jillian isn't even curvy or womanlike!

    • @c471
      @c471 4 місяці тому +2

      @DeadlyWhispers, my mom had us join Curves too! Mainly for her and my sister to loose weight, but I couldn't be left alone, so they signed me up too. I enjoyed the circuit machines but hated staring at everyone in the oval set up. I remember the TV part, but I blocked out what Jillian was saying. 🫤 Now that I think about it, the weigh ins are what set me off on weighing myself every time I used the bathroom as a teen. Add in my crush calling my double zero friend fat, while I was like a size four to six...hello disordered eating. 😭

    • @c471
      @c471 4 місяці тому

      @DeadlyWhispers, my mom had us join Curves too! Mainly for her and my sister to loose weight, but I couldn't be left alone, so they signed me up too. I enjoyed the circuit machines but hated staring at everyone in the oval set up. It was mostly older ladies there though. I remember the TV part, but I blocked out what Jillian was saying. 🫤 Now that I think about it, the weigh ins are what set me off on weighing myself every time I used the bathroom as a teen. Add in my crush calling my double zero sized friend fat, while I was like a size four to six...hello disordered eating. 😭

    • @c471
      @c471 4 місяці тому

      @DeadlyWhispers, my mom had us join Curves too! Mainly for her and my sister to loose weight, but I couldn't be left alone, so they signed me up too. I enjoyed the circuit machines but hated staring at everyone in the oval set up. It was mostly older ladies there though. I remember the TV part, but I blocked out what Jillian was saying. 🫤 Now that I think about it, the weigh ins are what set me off on weighing myself every time I used the bathroom as a teen. Add in my crush calling my double zero sized friend fat, while I was bigger than that ..hello disordered eating. 😭

    • @c471
      @c471 4 місяці тому

      @DeadlyWhispers, my mom had us join Curves too! Mainly for her and my sister to loose weight, but I couldn't be left alone, so they signed me up too. I enjoyed the circuit machines but hated staring at everyone in the oval set up. It was mostly older ladies there though. I remember the TV part, but I blocked out what Jillian was saying. 🫤 Now that I think about it, the weigh ins are what set me off on weighing myself every time I used the bathroom as a teen. Add in my crush calling my double zero sized friend fat, while I was bigger than that ..hello disordered eating. 😭

  • @aijalonsays
    @aijalonsays 5 місяців тому +13

    It is so crazy bc when this show came out, I was 14 & like many impressionable teenagers, i was in awe of the concept & while watching it with my parents, it gave the impression that this "standard" the show set was what I needed to be doing. Now that I am 33 with my own child, re-watching it back, I never realized how toxic it was at its core! thank you for shedding so much light to this topic. it was definitely necessary & helps us BE and do better. i loved this whole video.

  • @TheWitchsRattle
    @TheWitchsRattle 5 місяців тому +27

    I lost 110 lbs in 8 months because my doctor wouldn't take my health concerns seriously. I didn't feel better and she called me a liar. Turns out I had ME/CFS, have had it for years prior, and physical exertion can intensify the already horrible symptoms. My hair fell out. I'm permanently bald now. My metabolism is non existant, and I've gained 85lbs back. I hated my relationship with food and developed more body dysmorphia when I was thinner than I have now. My cholesterol, ironically, sky rocketed during my keto-induced weight loss, and I developed kidney disease.
    Now I'm fat and bald and working to advocate for loving yourself in whatever body you have. And yeah, i enjoy cake. Fuck me, right?
    Thank you for this video. You do good work.

  • @sphynxboogies
    @sphynxboogies 5 місяців тому +81

    As someone who grew up with this show and whose family saw it as a “good warning” for what could happen I seriously appreciate you covering this. When I quit nicotine (smoking) I gained 30 lbs in about 6 months and my the amount of shame my female family members put on me actively and passively was intense. There are people like my family out there who think shows like this are HELPFUL and NECESSARY. Pretty insane. In my late 20s now and in recovery for BED after having a restrictive disorder from the time I was 14-23, that morphed into BED when I quit nicotine. People don’t realize that having an eating disorder can be MORE dangerous than being at a (perceived) “unhealthy weight”

    • @elainelouve
      @elainelouve 5 місяців тому +12

      People don't really seem to be aware just how dangerous and bad EDs can be. I think the mortality was higher than psychosis or other condition generally viewed as severe. Should probably google it, but anyway, the statistics are dark.
      The whole society sometimes seems to have disordered eating. I wonder what would happen if we concentrated that energy on affordable therapy instead, and other things that would really benefit everyone.

    • @casey5683
      @casey5683 5 місяців тому +3

      My mother still thinks she’s “helping” me by using shame tatics about my weight. My daughter is thin and my mother praises almost nothing else about her aside from her looks. If she didn’t hurt my mental and physical health so much I might almost feel bad for her

    • @wintermoon7003
      @wintermoon7003 5 місяців тому +1

      No, it's pretty easy to see who's unhealthy based on how big a person is. Not to say that skinny people are healthy either, because that's not what I mean. But you can't tell me that 400+ pounds is healthy.

    • @sphynxboogies
      @sphynxboogies 5 місяців тому

      @@wintermoon7003 I honestly think it depends on everyone’s individual body. Also 400 lbs doesn’t necessarily mean someone’s unhealthy… look at “Strongman” competitions where people are literally athletes and their body frames support more weight. It really depends on body composition, biogenetic factors and personal psychosocial perspectives that affect an individual’s overall health. Health is not simply defined by our physical appearance.

    • @mariusvanc
      @mariusvanc 5 місяців тому

      @@sphynxboogiesNo, there are like

  • @littlecan8815
    @littlecan8815 5 місяців тому +11

    I never comment on any youtube videos, but I just want to say I just found your videos and have been binging them for a few days now, and Im OBSESSED with your content. You have your own viewpoints but also understand and acknowledge others. I wish more people were of the same mindset. Keep doing what you're doing. We need more of this in our society. ❤

  • @English3Muffin
    @English3Muffin 5 місяців тому +9

    I used to watch this show with my mom and it wasn’t until years later that I recognized how horrible it was, or honestly how my mom’s body dysmorphia shapes her life. I fight my own watching her struggle and not wanting that for myself. After a few lapses in EDs.
    Thank you for covering this, Swoop. I’m sure (and hoping) people are suggesting to look into Aubrey Gordon’s phenomenal work, which includes books and a podcast she cohosts called Maintenance Phase. It is one of my favorite podcasts. They do an incredible job breaking down and debunking diet fads and the harmful ideals we have as a society. It’s helped me find more acceptance in myself and take some of that pressure off. Not all, but some.

  • @gretchenbadger3158
    @gretchenbadger3158 5 місяців тому +427

    I am in recovery from binge eating disorder, and this show (and all of the knock-offs that popped up at the time) had such an incredibly harmful impact on my young mental health. Thank you for bringing this to light. Also, Jillian Michaels is a garbage human who can eff right off.

    • @basteque_
      @basteque_ 5 місяців тому

      Wow same. I used to watch that show and I would wish I'd participate on that show or other kind of "camps" when I was a kid. That f-ed me up. I'm finally free from any diet but still suffer from ED.
      Thank you for your comment. I feel less alone.
      Hang on 🩵 (the Overeaters Anonymous group exist and can help if you need/want it ).

    • @bitchpepper
      @bitchpepper 5 місяців тому +1

      Yes I get you! I am in recovery from bulimia and this show along with America's Next Top Model were NOT good for me to watch in the midst of my ED. I hope you are doing ok in your battle against an ED, it is a struggle every day for me and I would not wish it on anyone else.

    • @gretchenbadger3158
      @gretchenbadger3158 5 місяців тому +4

      @bitchpepper it is for sure a struggle every single day....but as long as we're continuing to fight, and stay alive, it will all be worth it. Wishing you well in your recovery journey!

    • @Zzz2x
      @Zzz2x 5 місяців тому

      I second the Jillian michaels statement. She sucks!

    • @MoxieRocker
      @MoxieRocker 5 місяців тому +2

      You're not alone.

  • @RoundSeal
    @RoundSeal 5 місяців тому +240

    Being fat runs in my family. This show, and the ideologies it represents, have done irreparable harm to my family. The sheer _hatred_ I have for this show and the people who greenlit it is incredible.

    • @bigkris2753
      @bigkris2753 5 місяців тому +2

      What about the people who signed up to be in it giving it so many seasons?

    • @iceheap9422
      @iceheap9422 5 місяців тому +17

      ​@@bigkris2753odds are they were prayed upon

    • @EdieDawnJay
      @EdieDawnJay 5 місяців тому +24

      @@bigkris2753 You mean the people generally from low income families who were promised pay to show up on the show, while simultaneously being shamed for being overweight by everyone in their lives to convince them they weren't worth anything/would be left if they didn't lose weight?
      They were victims too.

    • @isthiscereallife
      @isthiscereallife 5 місяців тому +9

      ​@@EdieDawnJayExactly. You're right on the money.
      Within this dynamic is a power imbalance. The show is in power. The execs could have decided not to be horrible, exploiting marginalized people with the show. The execs could have canceled it.
      But companies don't care who they have to destroy for the sake of their greed.

    • @bigkris2753
      @bigkris2753 5 місяців тому +1

      @@EdieDawnJay fair enough. Just at some point people really should've caught on. I know people need money but have a little pride.

  • @erinerinbobearin
    @erinerinbobearin 5 місяців тому +5

    This was my and my mom’s favorite show growing up. I didn’t realize until recently that my “Roman empire” is imagining my body as skinny. My mom has been obese my whole life, and now I have been for my adult life. I was so scared to be big (or “bigger”, thinking I was already fat) as a kid, and even thought of me and my mom being on the show together. This show was the very start of my diet culture toxicity.

    • @erinerinbobearin
      @erinerinbobearin 5 місяців тому +3

      I want to explain that I no longer see different sized bodies the way I did as a kid, but I do still hate my body as is.

    • @sierrabird3817
      @sierrabird3817 5 місяців тому +2

      ⁠@@erinerinbobearinit can take a lot of work to reprogram yourself into loving your body as it. Don’t give up it can be done💕

  • @Philadestrian
    @Philadestrian 5 місяців тому +38

    Thanks for the work put into this. I have to say I used to do Jillian’s 30 day shred and while I def saw results, it was agonizing looking at her and listening to her cuz she’s such a 🤬!!! She remarks in the video that 400 and 500 pound people she worked with can do jumping jacks so you have no excuse and there is no mod on that workout. I remember thinking how much impact comes with that exercise and as someone who studied exercise science and is qualified (though never interested in pursuing) as a trainer, we are taught we should always have a modified exercise. Range of motion, fitness levels, age, all play a part in how the exercise can be performed and you can get the same benefits from adapting the exercise for the individual! How can a program be beneficial if a person is injured? Also adherence is one of the biggest hurdles in fitness. Abusing people is never a sound method and people are less likely to adhere to a program through negative feedback. Worst of all, she says she wants you to feel like you’re going to die during that program. How irresponsible can you get? Someone who isn’t experienced would not know better and may push through despite dangerous and present contraindications to exercise. She’s ruthless and poorly educated. Hopefully, she doesn’t train anymore.

    • @KatherineM-
      @KatherineM- 5 місяців тому

      Because she’s right , you may not be able to do 50 jumping jack but you can do one so when u sit here and lie to yourself and comment such an obvious excuse for not moving is just that an excuse.

    • @kaitpotatoes6418
      @kaitpotatoes6418 3 місяці тому +2

      @@KatherineM- no way you’re trying to act like you know more then someone who studied kinesiology… literally a pre~med university degree 😂 like you understand that modifying workouts are how professional athletes train? This is basic health literacy and I highly recommend you researching and learning some basics before embarrassing yourself in the comments again

    • @Spectra651
      @Spectra651 3 місяці тому

      @@KatherineM- Give it up, Jillian, we all know it's you. Why don't you quit wasting your time scouring random comment sections for people saying bad (yet 100% true) stuff about you and go bully some poor, insecure person into an ED? Y'know, the thing you do best.

  • @ShyannHope8
    @ShyannHope8 5 місяців тому +48

    My mom and I used to watch this show religiously while eating ice cream and thin mint girl scout cookies 😭
    In all seriousness, this show was difficult to watch as a young child and definitely attributed to my later on ED. I'm glad this is being talked about!

  • @smolappl
    @smolappl 5 місяців тому +185

    Not even 5 minutes in yet and I can already tell this is going to be a favorite. I wish more people talked about how this show destroyed self-esteem. I was always told to watch it and was forced by my family to watch it many times as a way to sort of "motivate" me.

    • @Akiku2
      @Akiku2 5 місяців тому +7

      Saw the title and knew I was gonna love it.

    • @smolappl
      @smolappl 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Akiku2 exactly

  • @manalasiri4929
    @manalasiri4929 5 місяців тому +11

    I remember this show when I was a kid, and even then I thought workouts shouldn't make people pass out or vomit. Now that I'm 30 and most of my family are in the medical field I know exactly how dangerous all this could've been. I'm a physical therapist

    • @brittvaughn9447
      @brittvaughn9447 4 місяці тому +2

      I'm also a PT, and yeah, this is horrifying.

  • @BigWired
    @BigWired 5 місяців тому +7

    I watched this for the second time and I have to admit, the first time around, I was filled with a constant state of anxiety that my meds were doing a lot of heavy work keeping down. The way Jillian and Bob and the producers talked to and about the contestants was not only horrible, but it felt like how I thought the whole world talked about me behind my back.
    I've got issues about my body shape and size, and cripes... just thank you for talking about this and your kind words.

  • @Mndz113
    @Mndz113 5 місяців тому +32

    Everything being blamed on my weight has given me e a chronic terror of getting regular medical care. I am an Afro-Latina woman of a certain body type, once I hit puberty I was never in the ‘healthy’ weight class.
    This has kept me from proper psychological support, annual check ups, and so much more. In recent years I have tried to push passed this and advocate for my own health but it’s an uphill battle. 😢

    • @leahbelieva
      @leahbelieva 5 місяців тому +2

      This! I didn’t have a regular doctor from 18 until this year at 28 to avoid being told all of my ailments could be fixed by losing X amount of weight. It took YEARS of therapy before I established care with a regular doctor whom I trust. And I still struggle to advocate for my health but I do try. The fear of being fat shamed by a medical professional needs to be studied more. Add that you are a POC on top? I can’t imagine. My heart goes out to you that you are able to get the care you need without being fat shamed or under/misdiagnosed as a POC🖤

    • @primaveradel78
      @primaveradel78 5 місяців тому +2

      You can advocate for your health without doing all that. Just eath healthy, drink water and move your body. It's simple.

    • @tinareed4273
      @tinareed4273 5 місяців тому

      Same. I’ve always been fat or overweight or heavy (or whatever adjective is currently used to describe us). Even when I weighed 130# for the military, I was still fat. I hate going to the doctor for anything - even the flu - bc it always gets pointed back to my weight. And no one really wants to help or get to the root cause of it. Just throw the current fad medicine at it and hope it sticks.

    • @ahub87
      @ahub87 5 місяців тому +4

      @@primaveradel78that’s not what they are talking about…they mean if they get sick or have pain for any reason, doctors don’t explore what is wrong, they automatically assume it’s due to them being overweight. Case in point, I am currently overweight but I was not an overweight child when I was diagnosed with asthma. I am with the same large medical provider that I was with when I was 11. In 2022 I ended up with walking pneumonia. After going through an extensive check to make sure I didn’t have the-vid, the attending physician stated that my lungs were compromised due to my asthma which was a result of my weight. I then had to inform him that I was diagnosed with asthma at 11 when I was a healthy weight and have an extensive medical history of it. I also informed him that my lungs took further damaged when I had pleurisy in my 20s, which again happened when I was at a healthy BMI…my lungs were trash before I had a big a$$. It was only after that interesting conversation, that appropriate treatment was given…that’s when I was diagnosed with walking pneumonia

  • @b_ellan
    @b_ellan 5 місяців тому +50

    My ED / ana behaviors started when I was only 8. My family has always been overweight, and the negative body talk from the people around me, about their bodies and my own, felt constant. At my dad's house, we would all sit down and watch this as a family, and the adults would talk about how they wished they could be contestants. The winners were aspirational, the workouts were inspirational, and the quotes about dieting were hung all over the kitchen. I didn't start healing until I met my husband, and as a woman in her 30s who is a mother, I try my absolute hardest to raise my children to not even think about it. I am so thankful that I've been able to turn my life around, though the lifetime of starvation, over-exercising, and crash diets ruined my metabolism. This show fed my negative behaviors big time, and I know it did for so, so many others, too. Thank you for covering it.

  • @meghaffer
    @meghaffer 5 місяців тому +8

    Thank you for covering this! It always seemed like such a weird show. And then all of the groups of people in offices, churches, clubs, social media started their own Biggest Loser challenges. It was awful. And this shows exactly why my intuition steered me away even if I had no words for why

  • @kayde1526
    @kayde1526 5 місяців тому +4

    I myself am a person who is struggling everyday with being extremely overweight. I cannot even fathom being subject to harsh challenges, incredibly ignorant people, and long term effects of the entire experience. People who struggle with weight (no matter how much weight) are valid, loved, and are deserving of COMPASSION, nothing less. All bodies are beautiful. Thank you Swoop for your kind words and your compassion and hard work. Another great video. Much love xx

  • @eryaviel
    @eryaviel 5 місяців тому +90

    "We're not going accept shaming anyone for their size in this content."
    Can I just say how much I appreciate beyond words just the little things like this? Swoop makes this a safe space for everyone and that's freaking rad, y'all. 💙

    • @grxcedn
      @grxcedn 5 місяців тому +3

      i LOOOVE swoop. I know you can only infer about a person so much from the internet but she just has a rare, genuineness that I feel like is very much needed in the sus pool that is youtube.

    • @username.not.known2473
      @username.not.known2473 5 місяців тому

      Sure, but it's a low bar. I mean she's criticising the world's worst weight show; there's no real need to state that fat-shaming is bad here.

    • @kylaw2593
      @kylaw2593 5 місяців тому +1

      Agreed 🙌

    • @dangerxbadger2300
      @dangerxbadger2300 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@username.not.known2473 do you feel the need to minimize compliments for others in your real life, too? You sound exhausting lmao

    • @username.not.known2473
      @username.not.known2473 5 місяців тому

      @@dangerxbadger2300 From one comment? You are very astute:)

  • @aildhe4593
    @aildhe4593 5 місяців тому +44

    I really needed this episode. Several years ago I went through a work accident, became disabled, gained a lot of weight and then when I was applying for social security, they told me that I'd be less disabled and in less pain if I wasn't fat. And they denied me. I dropped my calorie intake to 1200 out of trauma from that experience and started starving myself. I always tried to eat less calories the next day and so on and so on. Now, 7 years later I am much thinner but my body doesn't know when I'm hungry or not anymore and I sometimes just don't eat until my husband tells me to. Because I'm just broken now.

    • @josephinehenry8236
      @josephinehenry8236 5 місяців тому +7

      Gosh that’s terrible, warmest regards to you from Australia.. ❤

    • @aildhe4593
      @aildhe4593 5 місяців тому +2

      @@josephinehenry8236 Thank you 💜 Much love

    • @ukchanak
      @ukchanak 5 місяців тому +12

      I hate this disgusting worldview that America has. I had undiagnosed PCOS and gained 70 lbs in 5 months without changing my diet and I couldn't even walk, 60 degrees was too hot for me, and my doctor said "you should just lose weight." I tried an extreme diet that didn't work and finally had to bring in a list of 40 symptoms and tell HER I knew what I had, and she'd better fucking give me the tests. Unfortunately in America you can't just ask for tests, the doctors have to prescribe them.

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 5 місяців тому +3

      @@ukchanak right! And a lot of health care advocates tell you to do just what you did. Good job!

    • @sngray11
      @sngray11 5 місяців тому +2

      I am so sorry to hear what was said to you and how it has impacted your life. I hope that you find people and professionals that you trust to help you heal and no longer feel broken. 🙏🏽 I have been where you currently are, and just know that it is possible to regain a healthy relationship with food and to feel whole again. I am sending strength, prayers, and positive vibes your way. 💞

  • @Aries_Superstar_Army
    @Aries_Superstar_Army 3 місяці тому +3

    This show added fuel to the fire for my teenaged self esteem in the mid 2000’s, I’ve been fat shamed by my family long before I could even start puberty. I know they love me but it has caused me to hide what I eat so I won’t get scolded and have a complicated relationship with food.
    Health related issues run in my family and my parents died of a heart attack so they’re trying to help me because they care about me not to follow in their footsteps.
    Now almost 32, I’m still overweight and work out yet the compliments I get from my family feel like sugarcoated pity, done to feel sorry for me for hurting my feelings. I feel like I haven’t earned the praise because I’m not trying hard enough and my older sister is now thinner than me in the face.
    The time has come and gone but the damage is already been done.

  • @rinniroo
    @rinniroo 5 місяців тому +3

    Wow, I haven't finished the video yet, but I had to comment when I heard J.D. Roth! I remember him as the host of the kids' game show Fun House in the late '80s/early '90s. I loved that show. That's so bizarre! He should have made an adult version of Fun House instead.

  • @AntoinetteChanel
    @AntoinetteChanel 5 місяців тому +32

    My maternal grandmother passed away in 1991 at age 57 from complications with pneumonia. I was in the first grade. In response, my mother went on warpath to make sure that her only child, me, was not overweight. She stocked our pantry with Snackwells and other cardboard like snacks through the 1990s. I'm just not that into candy or junk foods; I like to eat them just like anyone else, but I often find satisfaction with less, and I don't crave junk foods the way other people, such as my sister cousin, do. So with that said, a show like this one was an automatic "No" for me when it premiered. Honestly, between losing my grandmother at a young age and watching my mother form an unhealthy relationship with food, exercise, weight, and image...oh, and listening to my narcissistic father make comments about overweight people...I get super emotional and triggered over these conversations, and I've never even been an overweight person. I HATE the way we talk to people about their weight because it's almost never honest. The body positivity movement, while useful and relevant, isn't helping the situation.

  • @carsynhurley8012
    @carsynhurley8012 5 місяців тому +42

    Ok I need to say this, THIS is how you do a video talking about sensitive subjects. Tell people what happened, why it’s harmful to them, tell them it’s not their fault and give them resources!!! this is why I watch this channel! you give GREAT insight and facts, while educating people on why it can be harmful!! keep it up!!❤️❤️

  • @fuckoff8019
    @fuckoff8019 5 місяців тому +4

    Hey Swoop,
    this is not the documentary I thought I needed or even watned to see but i'm so glad I did. I was bullied hard in middle school because I didnt know how to straighten my hair and I was a big big girl with a LOT of curls and no idea what to do with it. (still don't, lol) but this hit home hard for me.
    I went home crying from school most days, where my mom would demand me tell her what happened and I would, and she would go and solve the "problem", which I think may have just made the bullying worse. I have never felt beautiful, appreciated, and I still dont appreciate or love my body. This kind of stuff is absolutely dangerous and life-changing. I will never be the person I was before the bullying, and I think it made me stronger with empathy and caring for others. It made me myself, become a teacher.
    Thank you for this. Everthing you said hit hard and close to home and I needed to hear some of these truths. I love you, swoop.

  • @Hobsonsmom
    @Hobsonsmom 5 місяців тому +22

    I remember waiting in line with my now husband for him to try out for this show. He looked at it as a way to change his life. Seems like him not getting on the show was a blessing in disguise.

  • @suzykennedy3559
    @suzykennedy3559 5 місяців тому +80

    I remember wanting to be on these shows, being jealous that I couldn’t afford to get training and dietitians. Now seeing how bad it was I’m glad I’m Canadian and was spared from this.
    I’m still learning how to manage my weight, eat and exercise but I’m doing it. I’m almost to my personal ideal healthy weight, leaning to cook, and enjoy food while working on my mental health.
    This show really messed with how people saw their bodies and was pretty toxic

    • @leeshana16
      @leeshana16 5 місяців тому

      they aired it in Quebec tho, i remember watching it right after dinner on like the main tv channel at the time

    • @emmajanofsky
      @emmajanofsky 5 місяців тому

      you are beautiful and i am so glad that these monsters could not reach you! keep being gorgeous and spreading your light!

    • @_NeKoChAnP
      @_NeKoChAnP 5 місяців тому

      I understand you, when the show started at that age I had a few extra pounds and was jealous also... Then years after it was created a Mexican version and was a disaster, just one season because nobody believes was good and I could see how horrible it really was.

  • @theresan3736
    @theresan3736 5 місяців тому +6

    Thank you so much for your commentary on the words used around higher weight. I was always of average weight until I had my four kids. Since then I’ve gained over 100 pounds. It’s embarrassing enough on airplanes and etc. and I, for one, am always hard on myself. Words like obese hurt me so much even though they are definitionally accurate. Anyway, I appreciate you so much!

  • @Penhauer
    @Penhauer 2 місяці тому +1

    "you are worthy of happiness at the exact size you are" 😭😭😭 WHY AM I SOBBING?!

  • @beetothetee
    @beetothetee 5 місяців тому +69

    I have so much respect for Kai Hibbard using her time and resources after the show to spread the word about how dangerous it actually was.

  • @toniwilliams3469
    @toniwilliams3469 5 місяців тому +16

    Wow, Biggest Loser is spreading the biggest misinformation about losing fat. I've spent almost a year fixing my mindset about weight loss. I was used to doing 30min-1hr workout almost every day but stopped for almost a year. When I started back at 40 lbs heavier, I kept getting sick or feeling fatigue all day when I worked out. I had to learn that my body had to get used to exercising. So I had to start with 10min-15min workouts every other day. Our bodies need to to catch up with our brains. thank you for covering this Swoop

    • @Gaymers_Union
      @Gaymers_Union 5 місяців тому

      I bought an elliptical machine last year in hopes of becoming more active at home, my initial workout plan was at least 45mins a day. But very shortly after I got a rib injury (unrelated to the machine) that took a whole year to heal. Only used it three times before then. I've only been pain free for 3 weeks and when I do get back to my elliptical I'm starting with 5 minutes max. A am extremely out of shape from sitting all year healing and my muscles are weak and I can't walk a whole block without being out of breath. Your comment is even more confirmation that I need to take this slow :) I'm obese so a chance of re-injury could be high. I'm lucky to have a supportive family member that is telling me to take it easy and go for a leisurely stroll once in a while so I get enough fresh air at the very least.

    • @toniwilliams3469
      @toniwilliams3469 5 місяців тому

      @@Gaymers_Union Yes Queen! We need to be patient with our bodies and listen to it. Weight loss is no one size fits all is what I'm learning. 😊

  • @thatgirlfromktown
    @thatgirlfromktown 2 місяці тому +2

    I had to speak to a therapist before I could be scheduled for a back surgery a few years ago. I'm not sure why, but I did. The therapist told me I looked like a beast and that I shouldn't weigh more than 98-105 pounds. My ideal weight is 135. He asked "do you really think your husband finds all that fat attractive? Don't you want him to be attracted to you, because I guarantee you he thinks you look disgusting." I left that place in tears and throwing up the rest of the day from the stress of that day. I ended up living like a hermit. To this day, I don't leave home, and if I do, it is just for a doctor's appointment and right back home. I ended up not getting the surgery due to a genetic heart issue and can't stand or walk more than about 3 minutes before I am in excruciating back & hip pain. So I have sadly put on more weight. I understand, just like all people who are overweight understand, that we aren't healthy, but there is a way to talk to us about it without being hateful. I didn't tell my husband until a few months later what that therapist had said because I knew what would happen if I had told him that day and I didn't want him to end up on the 6 o'clock new.

  • @charlenerawlings5827
    @charlenerawlings5827 5 місяців тому +2

    Growing up I watched my grandmother suffer the stigma that comes with being bigger than societal standards and also suffered myself. She bought everything she could find that had Jillians name on it and even had me playing the golds gym workout games on the wii. Mr her and my cousins would regularly do weigh ins and bmi tests on yhr wii fit and later wii fit plus and I truly believe that is part of what killed her before she even hit 52. Thank you so much for tackling this problem and continuing to bring awareness.

  • @D0ntTickleMe
    @D0ntTickleMe 5 місяців тому +25

    As a person who once weighed as much as 340, I always accepted I would always be fat. My mother chose fast food while she got healthy free meals at work. I was an active child, but abused in every sense of the word & depressed. Hospitalized through 3 suicide attempts.. it wasn't until I had a son at 19 as a result of SA that I realized how overweight I was at a Dr visit. I starved myself to try to lose weight after he was 3. I started working at a warehouse when I was 27, & that job was working out aerobics & heavy lifting for 10 hours a day that I finally lost weight. Once I saw the weight coming off, I stopped eating too. I fainted several times but the company didnt care because I worked the hardest. I got down to 110 pounds & I looked like a lollipop having a head with hair and just bones underneath. I almost died because I felt fat even when I was skin & bones. These shows are dangerous. The kind of person I am (hard country girl) I would've brought myself to the brink of death to win. The catch is that the bigger u r, the more weight you'll lose, so the larger u r to begin with, you have a greater chance of winning AND DYING.

  • @dietc0k317
    @dietc0k317 5 місяців тому +86

    It's insane that her videos are SO GOOD. I watched a Netflix documentary about Rubie Frankie and it was NOTHING compared to Swoop. Keep going team, you guys are so amazing!

    • @Apples765
      @Apples765 5 місяців тому +2

      There is a Ruby Frank Netflix docu????

    • @KitKatSukiKat
      @KitKatSukiKat 2 місяці тому

      Think you mean Chad and Lori Daybell Doc?!?!

  • @Quile99
    @Quile99 5 місяців тому +3

    Btw, in the US (and Canada?) "nutrisionist" isn't actual verified professional title, basically any snake oil seller can call themselves nutrisionist. But "dieticians" are nutrition experts that have to go to med school. In the UK these are different tho so it's all very confusing.

    • @kaitpotatoes6418
      @kaitpotatoes6418 3 місяці тому

      In Canada nutritionalist is a verified professional title, considered a regulated health profession it is protected meaning you can’t call yourself one without the license or you can be persecuted. Like if you claim to be a doctor, (nurse, dentist etc) you can be charged for impersonating a regulated health professional.
      Being a nutritionist in Canada requires a university degree. A dietitian is a medical doctor which is different, but both require university degrees at the very least plus a licensing exam

    • @CaterpillarPeacock
      @CaterpillarPeacock 3 місяці тому

      @@kaitpotatoes6418 are you sure about this? I'm canadian and my close friend is a registered dietitian, she has a masters, but did not go to medical school. maybe it's different depending on province, but in Ontario anyone can use the term "nutritionist" but you have to have gone to school in order to use dietitian, there's a regulatory body like the college of nurses or teachers where you can look people up to see their standing. I think you may have your terms mixed up, especially since "nutritionalist" isn't even a word...

  • @geminileo5128
    @geminileo5128 13 днів тому +1

    I have a massage client who was on this show, and although she lost a massive amount of weight, she also gained all of it back - and then some. Her main issues were that the show was designed for PHYSICAL changes only - in a controlled environment. However, emotional challenges that encourage overeating were never addressed. The extreme exercise routines were unnatural and lasted almost all day which, obviously, is impossible to continue once the person returns to their home, job, kids, etc. The contestants were also filmed via hidden camera, and the footage would be edited to make it look like they were cheating in private. And finally, contestants were required to rent apartments near the location at their OWN cost, while having a mortgage back home that still needed to be paid. Hanging skin after massive weight loss is also a challenge - VERY uncomfortable to the point of making it extremely difficult to exercise after the show ended.

  • @leahbelieva
    @leahbelieva 5 місяців тому +18

    I was in middle school and early high school at the peak of this show. BRUTAL. I was always considered overweight growing up and despite being an athlete (soccer, softball, volleyball, track and field, and marching band (iykyk)) and rarely eating out, I was ridiculed for my body. The wildest thing was when my long term bf dumped me on NYE and I couldn’t eat anything for weeks without getting sick. I was so heartbroken I just couldn’t keep anything down. I lost 25 lbs in three weeks and I was 5’4” and well under 200lbs when I was dumped. I received SO much praise. More praise than I had ever received for any other accomplishment in athletics, arts, or otherwise. All spring semester I was told how great I looked and how being dumped was the best thing that ever happened to me. I wasn’t eating ever. I was 16.

    • @Thedanceman567
      @Thedanceman567 5 місяців тому

      Geez, that sounds awful. Hope you’re doing better.

    • @aurea.
      @aurea. 5 місяців тому +6

      It blows my mind how people rarely bat an eye when someone loses weight so drastically, and instead feel the need to praise their looks. My friend went through the exact same thing. Sickening. Hope you're feeling better, Leah.

    • @sandpiperr
      @sandpiperr 5 місяців тому +2

      We all have that story of losing weight for bad reasons and getting praise for it!
      For me it was my final semester of college. I was stressed af about graduating because I didn't have a job. I'd had a minor falling out with my parents so my family life wasn't great. And my mental health, in general, was just bad.
      It was so hard to get through the day, sometimes I couldn't stomach more than a PowerAde for 'lunch' so I did lose a few pounds, and my dance teacher, who was a very nice guy and I'm sure meant well, commented that I was losing weight and how great I looked.
      It was the one time in my life when getting complimented on weightloss didn't feel good (because, yes, I do struggle with my weight).
      Six months later, I was at the lowest, most depressed point in my life and I came within a few seconds of unaliving myself but got too scared at the last minute.

  • @WatashiMachineFullCycle
    @WatashiMachineFullCycle 5 місяців тому +31

    I remember seeing this show when channel surfing was still a thing and after five minutes I had to turn the TV off altogether, I got so upset. I think it was the first reality show I saw that was blatantly humiliating like that. I was always heavier as a kid, and had a lot of issues with food (which turned out to be a sensory thing, I'm autistic) so I was always used to people asking me probing questions about my diet. Seeing these people being emotionally and physically destroyed for entertainment made me feel so ill

  • @Alligatorlator
    @Alligatorlator 5 місяців тому +1

    I really needed this. In the last year and half I upped and changed different medications which caused weight gain for me. I’ve been struggling with my weight and found myself going to these toxic weight loss activities/diets. Getting a better understanding of the scientific side that I feel like isn’t really talked about is like a light switch went off. Hopefully learning this new information will help be the push for me to live a healthier life without compromising my health. Thanks for all that you do.

  • @Apk1991
    @Apk1991 5 місяців тому +3

    Been loving your content so much Swoop. Just moved to a new city and I work from home while my bf works outside the house. I’ve been feeling really weird and kind of lonely in a new house even though I have my dog. Having your videos play in the background while I work has helped a lot. I just know I’ll always feel nostalgic about your videos now since this is such a big transitional time for me.

  • @alexandraobscura
    @alexandraobscura 5 місяців тому +18

    I remember this show, I was a child when it came out. I remember all the ads for it back then. It’s so exploitative and demeaning. The Biggest Loser is a prime example of the yo-yo diet where you lose a bunch of weight but then you gain it back. This a triggering experience for people that suffer with EDs. Even now I’m kind of insecure with how my body looks but I know that I love my body and I block the negative thoughts towards it as best as I can because I am valid. 💜

  • @LexieMoon321
    @LexieMoon321 5 місяців тому +57

    As someone who struggles with weight, this may be a hard video for me to watch . I love you, Swoop ❤

    • @justkiddin84
      @justkiddin84 5 місяців тому +1

      Come back later or on a good day! Or skip it. No shame!✌️♥️

  • @HereTheThea
    @HereTheThea 5 місяців тому +3

    You have just unlocked a core memory from my younger days 😅 My mom and I used to watch this show & I, at the time, was impressed on how the participants lose weight. But as time goes on & I am getting older & wiser, uhhhh I just realize how mentally draining to watch Jilian (yes you Jilian I am watching you...) screamed at the participants 😒😒😒

  • @merneith8493
    @merneith8493 Місяць тому +2

    My mother used to get me to watch biggest loser with her as a bonding opportunity and to help motivate me into losing weight. I promise, it didn’t help. I was fine, overweight, but athletic and healthy. Her motives just led me into disordered eating.

  • @nuxriver9237
    @nuxriver9237 5 місяців тому +19

    As a previously obese person myself (just 5 months ago I was obese, now I'm overweight), I always tend to prefer the medical terms to refer to weight as mentioned on something like for example the BMI chart. I know the BMI chart is flawed considering it doesn't really take into account muscle mass, but for most people that struggle with their weight, it tends to be accurate enough in most cases. I feel like terms such as 'fat' are subjective. Someone in a healthy weight range can still be called fat, even if by medical standards, they are not. Therefore it feels like they are more used to offend rather than to just talk about.
    So yeah, I personally preferred being called obese, and now I prefer being called overweight. It feels like those are terms that are actually based on something, which does help looking at it in a more objective way. I know people prefer different things, but this is how I feel about it.

    • @nicematerial
      @nicematerial 5 місяців тому +2

      Being fat-shamed by my mother didn't help. Being explicitly diagnosed as obese by my doctor who I trust, did. Other points of view are well-represented in these comments, was glad to find yours. Congrats on making that transition.

    • @vismattress5760
      @vismattress5760 5 місяців тому

      the bmi scale is essentially useless.

    • @nuxriver9237
      @nuxriver9237 5 місяців тому

      @@vismattress5760 It's flawed, there should definitely be a better scale in its place, but I wouldn't say useless.

    • @nuxriver9237
      @nuxriver9237 5 місяців тому

      @@nicematerial Yeah I can totally imagine that! I was fat shamed by my mother too. When I just started to think of myself as obese, it finally felt like I had something to work towards. You can't work towards being 'no longer fat' because what does that even mean? I am now just striving to get into the recommended weight range for someone my size and age. That's something to work towards. Being 'not fat' is not.

  • @hemulek
    @hemulek 5 місяців тому +6

    I’m not a professional athlete, I’m a normal woman 45 years of age, without sports background, who’s getting ready for the half-marathon. I train usually 6 hours a week (this contains long runs, tempo runs and workout sessions), I eat at 1800 kcal when I’m not training, when I’m doing long run I eat approximately 2200-2500. I can NOT imagine working out 6 hours every day and eating 1200 kcal! I would be dead by the end of week two.

  • @Dino-1958
    @Dino-1958 5 місяців тому +2

    I'm 65 and live in Britain and I don't have a TV. I have only seen a couple of short clips - on YT or another platform a few years back - of The Biggest Loser, it looked nasty so I've never sort it out to watch more. So I am a bit ignorant of the facts but I'm sure you will enlighten me in your usual thorough and factual way. I always feel confident that your documentaries are well thought out and fact checked, I now tend to turn to you when some debacle is going down. Certainly in the past your channel has been very informative. Thank you.
    💐💐🤔♥️🧀🐈‍⬛😼🌈🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺💐💐

  • @petergriffiinbirdistheword
    @petergriffiinbirdistheword 16 днів тому +2

    Jillian is incredibly manipulative. She said a caffeine supplement is healthier than an unlimited amount of coffee... ANYTHING unlimited is unhealthy, including water. A caffeine supplement is not healthier than a cup of coffee, is extremely dangerous because these supplements are unregulated and can interfere with other medications or health conditions. She worded that in such a manipulative way that ordinary people would hear it and think a caffeine supplement is healthy or a healthier alternative to the real thing. Shame on her.

  • @lexusheid5337
    @lexusheid5337 5 місяців тому +22

    I remember watching this constantly with my Mother mostly. We’re both fat and we would watch it for “motivation”. I tried to lose weight constantly and at one point my mom talked about sending me to the biggest loser as the youngest contestant because I guess I wasn’t losing enough in comparison to the contestants. I feel like it’s absolutely formed the way I think about exercise and it having to be “painful”. It’s wild to think about watching this as a teenager and how it made me feel about myself and others.

  • @spoidabetch
    @spoidabetch 5 місяців тому +8

    having multiple knee injuries throughout high school/university sucked, but i'm so grateful that learned how to properly workout from physiotherapists - whose main goal was to make sure i wasn't going to push too hard and/or injure myself - versus online or TV or wherever. i know far too many people who ignore pain or fatigue thinking it makes them tough, when really that's your body begging you to stop & take a break.

  • @calmaconejo
    @calmaconejo 5 місяців тому +2

    Jillian Michaels started shaming crossfit as dangerous and had videos of her using a treadmill while on handstand on her website......

  • @MeredithHammett
    @MeredithHammett 5 місяців тому +6

    Swoop, I never comment but I just wanted to say to you, thank you!! Thank you for all of your hard work and dedication. Your documentaries are absolutely done to perfection. Every element and layer of these videos are so thoroughly researched and put forth for the viewer. It makes watching them feel like I’ve been immersed into their lives and it can’t be easy to accomplish.
    You’re amazing. ❤

  • @TiaGems
    @TiaGems 5 місяців тому +82

    Thank you being so body-positive during this. A lot of people just point out that almost none of the contestants kept the weight off for a significant amount of time and say "the show was bad because it doesn't do its job". But the lengths you go to not only point out all the terrible things this show did but to reassure people that their weight is not their worth is beautiful.

  • @lindatheheathen
    @lindatheheathen 5 місяців тому +19

    Thanks for this, Swoop. The 2000s were a crazy time in reality TV. Can't believe this still exists. Also, am I the only one who waves back at the animation of Swoop at the end of the Petty University animation? Yes? I thought so. It's okay. It's fine.

  • @toni-7957
    @toni-7957 5 місяців тому +2

    I was part of a local ‘biggest loser’ competition in conjunction with a local gym. The personal trainers were thankfully so lovely and were more focused on nutrition and healthy exercise, the idea was to get people into the gym that wouldn’t normally go.
    They even said that it was called the ‘biggest loser’ for publicity rather than actually focusing on rapid weight loss. We also had a red and a blue team.
    I was out second (someone ‘left’ the competition every week depending on weight loss) although whoever was out could still attend the group classes.
    The winner got a years membership to the gym.
    This was almost 5 years ago, my son was only 6 months old at the time. I am still overweight but I did find a love for lifting weights which I had never done before this competition.
    Still not sure how I feel about it all but wanted to share.
    Thank you for talking about this Swoop ❤

    • @undressedandunwell
      @undressedandunwell 3 місяці тому

      sounds like a decent enough trick, in this garbage shitfuck world, to yes 1 get people to your establishment and earn money by exploiting the popularity of satan's diarrhea TV, but also 2. tell them you're just using it for publicity and actually give them something worthwhile and helpful instead. could be better could be worse. honestly, as a fellow overweight weightlifter, I'm just happy you discovered the magic of lifting shit it is wild how such a simple concept revolutionised my world

  • @stacey7637
    @stacey7637 5 місяців тому

    So thankful I found your channel exactly when I needed it the most. I was so stuck in the quicksand of self hatred, depression and anxiety. Your words pulled me out. Thank you.