Tim Lerch - Practical Practice - Getting the most out your efforts.

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  • @TimLerchGuitar
    @TimLerchGuitar  Рік тому +10

    Here is a related video ua-cam.com/video/N3YMDpPD8qo/v-deo.htmlsi=ZxyfJp7A1NijwyhM

  • @tonympirrotta
    @tonympirrotta Рік тому +44

    This has been the perfect lesson for me since going through music school. I was actually so overloaded with information that I had distanced myself from guitar because I got overwhelmed by picking it up. I learned every triad inversion on every string, every 7th chord inversion, every key, every mode, in harmonic melodic and major/ natural minor. So many different songs and standards, different ways to play them, advanced theory, sight reading, composition, the whole works. ALL in the span of 2 years. I couldn't practice anything without feeling as though I had to practice the next thing, and it was way too much. Now im sitting here on the other extreme, simply switching between 1-4-5 in G. Allowing myself to feel it, listen to it, and enjoy it. The path is making sense again. Although im able to do "more", I remember that more isn't the point. The point is to play, and in order to play, you need to integrate it, make it part of you, and enjoy the sound. That can be done with just one note.

    • @anthonyfox1436
      @anthonyfox1436 9 місяців тому

      Nice , I needed to hear that .

    • @dmoorefsmfn
      @dmoorefsmfn 5 місяців тому +2

      I experienced something very similar in music school. I was in my early 30s, married, and had two very young kids trying to make sense of a jazz curriculum for which I was neither musically or emotionally prepared. I have the degree, but I'm not sure I came out of really knowing how to play jazz beyond performing mental acrobatics while simultaneously trying to make my fingers do something on my fret board. The overload of information and the pressure to play in college overwhelmed me to the point that I had no idea of how to practice the volume of stuff thrown at me. The end result was that I have a ton of head knowledge and can't play like I want too. 21 years later I am finally giving myself permission to play and listen to music I actually enjoy. I now value my practice time because I understand how it is a means to an end: Technical proficiency enables me to better play the music I hear. Ironically, some things have come full circle. I am learning to play phrases from Kinda Blue "So What." It is so cliche' it's laughable. Yet the use of simple harmony is incredible and what really makes it for me is the phrasing and articulation that turns that simplicity into something much, much more. After listening to part of this video today I gained further insight into what I like to hear and want to play. That's a gift. Funny you mentioned "one note." I recently read that John Coltrane would play one note for hours. I'm not sure if that is truth or legend, but it has merit.

    • @TheKeyToMusicOfficial
      @TheKeyToMusicOfficial 4 місяці тому

      and getting one note to sound good is a thing all by itself!

  • @dabblesonguitar6752
    @dabblesonguitar6752 Рік тому +19

    To add:
    13:00 Don’t practice until you get it right. Practice until you can’t get it wrong. Applies to a lot in life.
    Great video, thank you

  • @brucebyrnes125
    @brucebyrnes125 Рік тому +57

    “Learning something poorly quickly” is probably the story of my guitar journey so far. Too much information and a tendency to chase the next shiny new object definitely holds me back

    • @RickDanner
      @RickDanner Рік тому +6

      i do the same thing I learn 20 things and end up with nothing new under my fingers

    • @guitarlots
      @guitarlots Рік тому +6

      Just learn songs

    • @danjohnstonguitar9484
      @danjohnstonguitar9484 Рік тому +6

      Excellent advice! In the 31 years I've been teaching guitar, the #1 thing I notice - and make sure the student is aware of - is to never practice mistakes. Most people are not aware that they are hard wiring into their brain, something other than what they intended. And, echoing what you said, people try to practice way too much at once. Just changing those two things can transform one's playing.

    • @daynemin
      @daynemin Рік тому +1

      ​​@@danjohnstonguitar9484nice! Do you have any tips on undoing the slop, I'm currently relearning guitar. Noticing how much of my playing used to be just muscle memory and habit, was not tagging and actively listening and connecting myself to the sound/music.

    • @danjohnstonguitar9484
      @danjohnstonguitar9484 Рік тому +1

      ​@daynemin I think a good place to start is to work on ideas that you already know, but play them at a slow speed, making sure your timing is solid. If it's not, use a metronome to keep you solid and well below your speed threshold. This can help reconnect those older muscle memory movements. Also, I find with myself that I need to let the fretting hand lead, as usually the picking hand is faster. If I focus on this, mentally, I find that my playing sounds and feels more synchronized and smooth. I hope this helps!

  • @GordiansKnotHere
    @GordiansKnotHere 9 місяців тому +3

    I've been playing, studying the guitar for over 4 decades.
    I also study Internal Martial Arts and have been practicing-studying for about the same amount of time.
    I have found the one constant that make the most impact is "Less is More, Slow is Fast"...
    Mastery at any art take practice, do it with a happy heart gang!

  • @mikebauer6917
    @mikebauer6917 Рік тому +31

    As an older learner I am taking my time because it is my time; no desire to “go pro” or any such hurry. I’m enjoying the journey and fully enjoying each incremental achievement.

    • @chuck785
      @chuck785 Рік тому

      There's a reason it's called 'playing' music, not 'working' music!

  • @johnpierson8398
    @johnpierson8398 Рік тому +29

    I have been playing guitar for 50 years, and I am still trying to build my knowledge and guitar playing vocabulary. I have taken years of lessons and still study on my own. This is the very best guitar lesson I think I have ever had! The patience, understanding, accuracy and paced way of learning makes so much sense. For all of us who play guitar, here are words of wisdom

  • @Thinking_Ape_Plus_Clothes
    @Thinking_Ape_Plus_Clothes Рік тому +9

    “Good sounds throughout. I don’t want to be practicing mistakes.” This is something I think every guitarist can relate to

    • @wizrom3046
      @wizrom3046 Рік тому

      I practice the hell out of those mistakes lol, I'm starting to get quite good at 'em 😁

  • @VincentBowe
    @VincentBowe Рік тому +2

    Best advice I've ever been given . Thank you Tim.

  • @amoswu7824
    @amoswu7824 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you so much Tim. I have to watch this lesson every once in a while to remind myself not to rush.

  • @BlondChronicles
    @BlondChronicles Рік тому +4

    Your voice. Your face expressions. Your thoughts. The intelligence of your comments. All adds up into a very sweet learning experience. Thanks!

  • @robertcanedo7607
    @robertcanedo7607 Рік тому +1

    very sensible approach for an older beginner!.Thanks

  • @michelnaone9342
    @michelnaone9342 Рік тому +3

    A good habit to get into is to watch this video regularly. Thank you Tim.

  • @davemassie3726
    @davemassie3726 Рік тому +8

    Don't practice mistakes! Love it, great lesson. Thanks Tim for sharing. Beautiful guitar.

  • @vaughan7835
    @vaughan7835 Рік тому +1

    Good thinking 99... I'm a mid 50s Aussie. Sadly I never learnt much at all when I was young, with no teacher. Just books with songs & chords & watching my older brothers & mates jam at parties & camping trips. I still have my 1st guitar I bought with my 1st wages. A beat up old mid 80s Aria Japan dreadnought. My Favorite band to play along with, rhythm only, was CCR. Now I'm trying to learn through YT teachers, by watching & listening. Marty Music & Justin Guitar etc. My Favorite now is Keef Richards! S R Vaughan is well n truly beyond me! Subscribed, finally! ❤

  • @Paul-tk1hg
    @Paul-tk1hg Рік тому +1

    Thank you Sir! Great lesson!

  • @analogblues9606
    @analogblues9606 Рік тому +12

    I’ve been playing for 59 years and not even close to where I’d like to be. Tim, you put it in such a way that’s eye opening, easy, practical and beneficial!
    Thanks so much!!! 😊

  • @uaruss
    @uaruss 11 місяців тому +1

    This is a master class on how to learn. Not simply how to learn guitar, but how to learn anything. How easy it is try to incorporate too much complexity too soon, and we're unable to grow, we stay frustrated, and we eventually give up. There is untold value in your words. Thank you!!

  • @jadreza8182
    @jadreza8182 Рік тому +1

    So down to earth. Thanks for explaining it this way. 👍👍

  • @marcoformicone1276
    @marcoformicone1276 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Tim!

  • @Paul-tk1hg
    @Paul-tk1hg Рік тому +1

    Great lesson Mr.Tim! I love the premise of not practicing your mistakes. Thank you!

  • @pjjmsn
    @pjjmsn Рік тому +1

    Hi Tim, I want to mention that I met you at the Providence Zen Center in Cumberland , RI in the early 2000's. I Used to go there regularly as a visitor on Tuesdays and Thursday evenings to meditate and chant.I also did a 2 day retreat there, wherein I had an important psychological/spiritual breakthrough for me. I remember how spicy the food was during our silent dinner.
    I didn't know you played guiter then and was surprised to learn what a true master jazz guitarist you are. I also play jazz guitar but on an intermediate level. I am from RI but have since moved to Spain with my wife. I love your playing! Cheers and all the best!!!

  • @mattgarbutt254
    @mattgarbutt254 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for this great lesson! On the surface, some of this seems perfectly obvious but is stuff that I’m sure many of us don’t actually take on board… what you say about “we practice something until we can play it once, then stop” is so true!
    I’m a bass player currently retraining to play left handed as I have dystonia in my right hand… reframing the idea of practice as something to be enjoyed (enjoying the sound and the whole process) rather than a chore is so crucial to my approach.
    Great video, thanks again

  • @smokinjazzguitar
    @smokinjazzguitar 3 місяці тому +1

    Out of all the guitar videos on UA-cam that I have heard and watched, this is the best and most useful one, great work Tim and thank you!

  • @johnoneill5570
    @johnoneill5570 Рік тому +4

    I've been practicing my mistakes for over 40 years and getting rather good at them. lol. Great lesson. Seriously great advice Tim. Thank you!

  • @sosebee2
    @sosebee2 Рік тому +4

    Tim is a GREAT Teacher! Focused on the message of musicianship: slow down, listen to the sound of your own practice and finally understand what your playing. Thank-you Tim.

  • @duyle8921
    @duyle8921 5 місяців тому +1

    Extremely valuable and informative lesson. Thank you, Tim.

  • @twli
    @twli Рік тому +1

    Very thoughtful, thank you

  • @1loStu
    @1loStu Рік тому +3

    Being a teacher myself I want to thank You, dear Tim. This is really the BEST and the MOST useful advise what can give an adult teacher to an adult student.

  • @fer7068
    @fer7068 Рік тому +5

    Such a great lesson Tim. With this method actually one can achieve anything he wants

  • @jallor
    @jallor Рік тому +1

    Beautiful simple lesson!

  • @Bflatest
    @Bflatest Рік тому +2

    that guitar sounds amazing. Very warm and woodsy clear and defined even and great sustain

  • @sclg560
    @sclg560 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Tim!

  • @hcnilsson
    @hcnilsson Рік тому +1

    Best tip ever Tim, thanks:
    -Make sure you're enjoying yourself.
    I'm trying to tell people this:
    -the most important part is having fun. 🎸

  • @Mr.Altavoz
    @Mr.Altavoz Рік тому +1

    Great lesson..tha❤nks

  • @therealdoug1000
    @therealdoug1000 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful advice!

  • @PuddLane3
    @PuddLane3 4 місяці тому +1

    Fantastic job.

  • @Michajeru
    @Michajeru 6 місяців тому +1

    This is spot-on advice. Wow, I must really take note of this lesson.

  • @vKarl71
    @vKarl71 Рік тому +5

    This is SOOOOOO good. 💯 The thing of not trying to learn too many things in one session is really important.

  • @Dan-Arg
    @Dan-Arg Рік тому +1

    Thank you, I was bouncing between videos and I get some stuff that had in millon papers but now I chase it from you, quicky and nicely. Thx

  • @barrysebastian9584
    @barrysebastian9584 Рік тому +1

    Sage advice! Thanks, Tim👍😁

  • @markharris2562
    @markharris2562 Рік тому +4

    Why do I get the feeling the best 20-min lessons take years to complete? Thank you for the wonderful explanation!

  • @jasonkesser
    @jasonkesser Рік тому +5

    Without meaning to, with the first inversion melody practice, you just blew open new doors for me with connecting triads and scales and chords, thank you man.
    Changed my practice immediately

    • @TimLerchGuitar
      @TimLerchGuitar  Рік тому +3

      You might also enjoy my recent YT video on triad scales or my TrueFire course Melodic Triads

    • @jasonkesser
      @jasonkesser Рік тому +2

      @@TimLerchGuitar I believe that video is how i ended up being a subscriber buddy, but trust me, I’ll dig through it now. This video totally defined my playing I today, the keys that unlock the doors are sometimes unexpected and weird. Really nice video.

  • @marvinrudd5268
    @marvinrudd5268 Рік тому +1

    Great lesson and beautiful guitar

  • @clydesandry5351
    @clydesandry5351 9 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely brilliant. I found this so helpful. Thank you 👍🏻

  • @jimmygetz9809
    @jimmygetz9809 Рік тому +1

    Awesome, thank you.

  • @barbermot
    @barbermot Рік тому +6

    Good advice. Took me a long time to realize how much time it takes to learn small things well. Thank you for these videos.

  • @freddymclain
    @freddymclain Рік тому +2

    I needed a good sermon...thank you. I stood at the doorway to success...you helped push me through.

  • @DaveLeoni
    @DaveLeoni Рік тому +1

    Great advice. Thanks, Tim.

  • @GByePorkPieHat
    @GByePorkPieHat Рік тому

    This is a BIG impact lesson. Thanks!

  • @duyle8921
    @duyle8921 Рік тому +1

    Very helpful. Thank you

  • @va3ux
    @va3ux Рік тому +1

    This is excellent advice and it works. George Van Eps would approve.

  • @EdgarBowlin
    @EdgarBowlin Рік тому +2

    Wow @analogblues9606, that's a long time! I've only been playing 42 years! Tim, thanks so much for your videos! Finally, after all these years, triads in all inversions, partial chords, passing chords, are all coming together for me. The kids are long grown and gone, I'm a software engineer working from home, and my studio is 30 feet from my back door, so I RELAX and practice, learn, and APPLY (digest?) much more effectively than ever before. I appreciate all your videos and latest book very much, you're very kind and an excellent instructor!

  • @kisbandi1563
    @kisbandi1563 11 місяців тому +1

    I enjoyed watching this video a lot! I liked how you spoke out all the time, what can be in the learners mind, and how can one improve the mindset of the learner.
    I also liked the small details, how a learner would experience a new thing: watching, naming, repeating, take a break, check your body... I liked it a lot!

  • @chikung
    @chikung Рік тому +4

    This is possibly the best lesson I've ever had. But then again, ever since I've encountered your lessons, either at Truefire or here, I've been making sense and music of so many things! Your contribution to the guitar learning world is truly outstnding. Thank you, Tim!!

  • @ivankachkovski
    @ivankachkovski 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Sir!

  • @EternalOvercomer
    @EternalOvercomer Рік тому +2

    Great words of wisdom. Thank you for sharing!

  • @roniabagimayordomo4786
    @roniabagimayordomo4786 Рік тому +1

    Thanks sooooo much!!!!!!!! Really needing this❤

  • @Riverdeepnwide
    @Riverdeepnwide Рік тому +1

    What treasure! Thank you Tim.

  • @denisbarrette192
    @denisbarrette192 Рік тому +1

    Yes, this has been a very practical way to improve my practicing each day, thanks for opening my mind

  • @rafaelreis4490
    @rafaelreis4490 Рік тому +1

    Tim you are great teacher,Very deep and clear, thanks man👏👏👏

  • @andytimmonsguitar
    @andytimmonsguitar Рік тому +2

    Lovely video Tim...thanks for your wisdom ❤

    • @TimLerchGuitar
      @TimLerchGuitar  Рік тому

      Thanks for stopping by Andy, I hope you are well and doing wonderful things.

  • @michaelcope9501
    @michaelcope9501 Рік тому +1

    Mr. Lerch, this is among the best videos you’ve produced. Thank you!

  • @Alan-zi2rs
    @Alan-zi2rs Рік тому +1

    Thanks Tim. This is how I kinda practice ( no tunes ) then I'll apply to tunes
    I like what you said ' don't practice mistakes ' 🇬🇧👍🎸🎶🎶🎶

  • @erlingwesth7055
    @erlingwesth7055 Рік тому +3

    Hi Tim, thanks for your teaching. It is SO meaningful, and although I have played for many many years, this is se important to me.

  • @JeremyChildress
    @JeremyChildress Рік тому +1

    You are a good teacher

  • @THEItchybruddah
    @THEItchybruddah 7 місяців тому +1

    That was as close to the zen of Bob Ross I ever experienced with instruction. EXCELLENT stuff Maestro. Nobody ever talks about about gently soaking up the data. (Remember folks… The Turtle won the race!)

  • @asafnisan
    @asafnisan Рік тому +1

    great teacher, great player. love and respect from istanbul.

  • @giarebig474
    @giarebig474 Рік тому +2

    MAN!!!! That's exactly what I tell my students over and over and over and... Hopefully they get more inspired by a UA-cam-star like you are... THANKS A LOT!!! You make my life much easier...

  • @donlazov2443
    @donlazov2443 Рік тому +4

    Thank you Tim! Very practical and informative, it’s nice to get someone else’s thoughts on practice in a clear and understanding way, nice and kind love your humbleness and honesty.

  • @matsherwood6277
    @matsherwood6277 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this video. I have played for a long time largely self taught, and have been making some progress as of late but about as quickly as the progress comes, it feels as if I'm stagnating again. This video is encouraging me to really nail down what I've discovered recently instead of rushing to look for the next new breakthrough.

  • @JCFern
    @JCFern Рік тому +5

    I needed this. I know the triad basics, but the big lessons I learned here were to:
    -SLOW DOWN. Really LEARN, digest, understand, and MASTER the lesson
    -Repetition, consistency and proper form is always better than just trying to learn something new quickly.
    This is sage advice Mr Lerch. In sidenote, are there any seats left at the Ted Brown Music Tacoma Masterclass? I hope I’m not too late…

    • @TimLerchGuitar
      @TimLerchGuitar  Рік тому +1

      Yes there are seat available. Hope to see you there.

    • @JCFern
      @JCFern Рік тому +1

      @@TimLerchGuitar Done. Consider me a student 🙏

    • @JCFern
      @JCFern Рік тому +1

      I just signed up for your Masterclass! Looking forward to meeting you sir!

  • @robmeyer7985
    @robmeyer7985 Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Thx.

  • @e21steverino
    @e21steverino Рік тому +1

    "Live with the sound" Fantastic Tim! When I get to that stage when it feels like I know something...know something well enough to almost make it music and worthy of playing it for someone to listen. Great lesson!

  • @brucejackson1329
    @brucejackson1329 Рік тому +2

    That was one of the most profound guitar lessons I have ever had. Thanks for sharing the work/fun that it takes

  • @jrghansen25
    @jrghansen25 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Tim for this precious lesson! Always benefit from listening to you and adore you music

  • @MrSonicAlchemy
    @MrSonicAlchemy Рік тому +1

    Great lesson and a great reminder to slow the learning process down and make sure you really know the new material you are working on before moving on to something else. Thank you!

  • @supasoul
    @supasoul Рік тому +1

    i like the way this lesson came together!!! THE APPROACH IS EVERYTHING!! My big lesson from this post is to *Take the time to slowly get each component accurate and THEN spending the same or more time learning to master each component....rest well... return and consolidate* "Digestable Chunks" only for the next two months HA!

  • @mattiagiovanetti
    @mattiagiovanetti 2 місяці тому +1

    Splendidi consigli, grazie!

  • @MrMewsique
    @MrMewsique Рік тому +1

    This was helpful. Thank You Tim

  • @fouroutoffour
    @fouroutoffour Рік тому +3

    Tim, this is very helpful advice to hear. In the past year I have drawn a distinction between “learning” and “practicing.” I found that I needed to do WAY more practicing (repetitions) and much less learning (new concepts). Thank you!

  • @plumhunter9158
    @plumhunter9158 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, Tim. I have been on your TrueFire lessons pages. Need to revisit!!

  • @bobberuck1979
    @bobberuck1979 Рік тому +1

    dude that was great. clearly i'm grinding along

  • @aaroncorr486
    @aaroncorr486 Рік тому +1

    I love this lesson and needed to hear it….thanks Tim

  • @MikaelLewisify
    @MikaelLewisify Рік тому +2

    My whole life I’ve been beating myself up for not sticking to a regimented practice routine. Nice to hear such an experienced teacher debunking the myth.

    • @Erschophone
      @Erschophone Рік тому +1

      It's not "regimented" but it's VERY organized!

    • @aeksinsang932
      @aeksinsang932 Рік тому

      Beat yourself off instead and come sit back down less tense

  • @rexroman5211
    @rexroman5211 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant 😊

  • @deano41.123
    @deano41.123 Рік тому +1

    Thanks again Tim. 👌

  • @jwright8838
    @jwright8838 Рік тому +1

    Great lesson. Thanks.

  • @noself1028
    @noself1028 Рік тому +1

    Thanks so much, Tim! I needed this lesson today, as I’m inclined to be impatient in my practice. I’m well aware of the importance of repetition but tend to get frustrated when I don’t master a particular technique as quickly as I’d like.

  • @leadcatpress
    @leadcatpress Рік тому +1

    Great lesson and thoughts! I've found that a regimented practice routine can be very helpful for learning certain concepts like chord tones and reading (especially for adult learners), and the "practice to playing" routine you outlined here works perfectly for the harmonic device you teach in this video. When I was teaching at Seattle University, I was challenged to find the fastest and most effective ways to get our guitar students caught up to the other music students in the program, which I did, but I would tell each student when they graduated that their real practice actually begins now. Thanks for offering those hard working students the real deal here. Cheers!

    • @TimLerchGuitar
      @TimLerchGuitar  Рік тому +1

      Hi Susan, glad to hear from you. Hope you are well and happy.

    • @leadcatpress
      @leadcatpress Рік тому

      @@TimLerchGuitar Thanks for taking time, and yes, that is my wish for all of us. ❤

  • @CalvinLimSH-ld5le
    @CalvinLimSH-ld5le Рік тому +1

    Guitar constant practice makes perfect in all the things you do, that's why you need to put in the effort to learn things repetitively and become more familiar with the tasks you do. Everyday I still find ways to learn from You tube available resources and put them into practice. Thanks for sharing what you demonstrated best like movable triads.

  • @Squareheaddude
    @Squareheaddude Рік тому +1

    What a great lesson. Thank you, Tim!

  • @brittspace
    @brittspace Рік тому +1

    That was so pleasant and nice. :)

  • @thesongwritersdropin2565
    @thesongwritersdropin2565 Рік тому +3

    Thanks ,Tim . This is a great video. I'm exploring triads at the moment and I'm practicing pretty much what you're doing here with some things you pointed out which were overlooked . Thanks for filling in the gaps here. 🎸🙂🙏

  • @henninghesse9910
    @henninghesse9910 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this!

  • @skeres01
    @skeres01 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for another very valuable piece of knowledge for all us aspiring guitar players.

  • @slampig72
    @slampig72 Рік тому +1

    Great advice and instruction here. My sensei imparts these same strategies to all of his students. It made a huge difference for me in terms of time spent not only learning new information, but also retaining it. Thanks for this!!!

  • @chuckbouscaren3898
    @chuckbouscaren3898 Рік тому +1

    This is such great advice Tim! Thank you.

  • @RaineyDaysStudio
    @RaineyDaysStudio Рік тому +1

    Words of wisdom

  • @lomezgaureano
    @lomezgaureano Рік тому +1

    Merci beaucoup !