She was essentially/figurativelly/literally the elder sister of the whole group and the one whom felt like she failed in keeping the family together, because they were a FAMILY...Lee was the second oldest(Trying to be everyones strength and willpower), Lisa the middle child(Whom felt betrayed and hurt and I honestly feel sorry for Lisa above all everyone), H(Despite his Hyperactivity, was feeling drained and wanted to do other stuff)was the second youngest and Claire(She was afraid which is why she panicked and jumped ship) was the youngest of them all.
@@PeterBerisha this is accurate as in personality wise but in reality lee and lisa are both older than faye and none of it was her fault even though she felt like it was
I love that Lee was just listening and observing, giving short statements but straight to the point.. Maybe that's why I find him attractive.. Him and Faye are my fave though I love this group since then and I am sooo happy they were able to put aside their issues and reunite for the best.❤❤❤
I'm so glad we got them back. They are such a close family these days. They bring me such joy with each new song. I feel like we've all grown up together. They are about the same age as me. All the more recent comments are talking like this was filmed yesterday but it was filmed in 2011. That's a whole nine years. They aren't like this anymore. They relaunched as a business where everyone is equal. While they are signed with BMG now the last album was self released on their own imprint. They are in their mid 40s now. Times have moved on.
It's clear how it started and how it ended. Claire, as the best vocalist, was given most of the lines. This led to Faye, Lisa and Lee feeling resentful towards Claire and Claire feeling excluded by Faye, Lisa and Lee. H just tagged along with Claire because he thought it would further his career. Hence the band was split in two.
@@jamesmclellan2408 their album debuted at #58 on the charts and then fell off the charts after one week, it TANKED. The only reason they got a couple of top 10 singles was because there was enough hype around them (they released just a few months after leaving Steps) to score them a single week in the top 10 following months of pre-orders. Their entire act was a complete failure and based on short-lived hype
I just can't help but think that H is the one behind all of this and persuaded Claire to leave and now tries to wash his hands of it all. I truly think he was the instigator of the break up just by his demeanor and overall attitude. Too bad he wasn't replaced...
They didn't answer to Faye's questions. Claire just cried and H said that he regretted it. No apologies, no explanations. It's not the point that Claire and H were tired and wanted to leave the group. The point is that it was very wrong of them to notify the rest of the group of their departure just 1 hour before their last show. Also, It was not a momentary decision. It was planned way before the last concert. After the concert, every staff and management was gone for the next project: H & Claire, and none was left for the rest 3. And how foolish were H and Claire that they actually believed that people would love them just after few weeks passed since their breakup. I personally think that the rest 3 might have had their own faults of the group's disharmony, but even if they were not friends but they were still colleagues and they deserved the truth.
They were still so young and were trying to figure themselves out way before they even knew what they wanted. Yes, I understand that I know nothing about our beloved quintuplets/siblings or what they went through their 5/6 years of being together so I can't add nor provide anything to this comment to say that I know what they went through, because I REALLY DON'T, so the only thing for me is to just back off and mind my own business, but I feel compelled to say that Claire and H( I will always Love them regardless of my civilian position in society) destroyed the group and I understand they wanted to try new things, but leaving everything behind and going off on their own without addressing important matters, such as communication and just putting their problems on the table for everyone to figure out and fix, or try to work around it was scary I guess, and it could be why H and Claire left, because they were afraid to see what comes next? I'm still heartbroken for Faye, Lee and Lisa and they deserved better.
Nah, Claire did what she had to do. She keeps saying to them "working with you was awful, we didnt speak to each other, i was miserable, i had to get out". And they dont respond to that at all. No regret, apology or explanation of how they treated her.
watching this now - with them releasing the Hard To Forget song and video for their 25th PLATINUM ANNIVERSEY IS SO BITTER SWEET - SO GLAD THEY ARE STILL HERE RELEVANT AND SMASHING IT
They were all incredibly mature, civil and brave for coming together to air things out after so long. Knowing what happened in the background and how they felt was both something you wanted to know and needed to know but also wished it wasn't true. For "H" to say and accept that his actions caused unnecessary grief and hindsight was error in judgement was incredible and gives renewed respect to hi
I'll tell you this much: half the issues that festered amongst them for years were partly because of their manager Tim. After reading Claire's autobiography and seeing how other bands have been treated in the industry in the past, I'm no doubt he was definitely a contributor to the problems the band members had with one another. He sounds like a complete Svengali figure who was pulling their strings behind the scenes.
He really was. I'm sure Faye, Lisa & Lee knew their vocal capabilities compared to Claire, they don't want to be the leader but they're a vocal group, they just want to get fair share of line distribution but Tim Byrne couldn't understand it.
I used to like them equally before realizing their problems and the split. Now my only favorite is Faye, vocally, personally and in any other ways. I cried when Faye asked “ did you really hate us? “
Knowing now that they are on tour again in 2022, makes me glad they sorted things out. But I didn't know about this split 10 years ago, I'm thinking this new tour is happening because the group aren't as well of as they should be for the success they had .
Faye handled it amazing and kept H and Claire accountable but I feel Claire didn't take any responsibility or have any remorse just turned the tears on when Faye was only wanting a straightforward answer I thought was rude of Claire
this is all history but this is a classic example of how inequality in any kind of group ultimately leads to conflict. the classic example is The Supremes (Diana Ross). Three ladies started singing and each had some lead songs - jump forward a couple of years and Diana Ross was pushed to the front leaving the other two ladies very hurt and dejected. Eventually the group split and Diana Ross did not talk to the other ladies for some years. There has been conflict in most bands. The key is to let everyone have their own significance within the group (sharing the leads) and also ensuring you have similar personalities. Once you mix personalities and levels of talent, you end up with friction.
DaNgEr88GiRL I think the whole situation had the biggest effect on Faye ❤️ breaks my hearts because I fee she’s the nicest and most genuine out of the group.
There's one thing missing from this documentary- Tim Byrne, the ex-manager. I know he and H are no longer together, but he hasn't shared his side of the story. For some reason, they didn't give him the chance to explain his actions, or at least apologize to the other members (Faye, Lee, Lisa) for his role in the split. His handling of the vocals issue, the secret relationship with H, and leaving with H & Claire. Faye's comment that songwriters were writing for the duo indicate that Byrne had been planning this for quite some time....
Maybe he's too ashamed to admit that he took advantage of Five Young People. Alot of Managers are really bad. Remember what happened with Louis Walsh (Girls Aloud). He made a pointed remark about their weight and he didn't even "Manage" them. Kimberley Walsh Managed them for Two Years before Hilary Shaw took over who also as you know managed Banarama. If TLC had a Manager like Hilary instead of that "Thief" Peri "Pebbles" Reid former Wife Of LA Reid that Cheryl Ann Tweedy worked with briefly on The X Factor US things woudl have worked out differently.
@@laminage I think this seems to be common to a lot of 90s/00s pop acts. Most of them became successful in their late teens/early twenties (some even younger, Billie Piper wasn't even 16 when her first single went to number one). You are still quite vulnerable at that age, but you see a lot of them now and how splitting up or being dropped affected them. And I'll be honest here, a lot of these so called managers - Tim being one, Nigel Martin Smith with Take That being another and Lou Pearlman being a whole other can of worms with Backstreet Boys, *NSYNC and O-Town, should've known better and quite patently demonstrated that they had no business managing these acts in the first place.
I wasn't aware of the secret relationship but that now clearly explains why Lee was never given much to sing in the early years as H wanted the spotlight on himself as much as possible, even though his talent level was questionable...
putting this out there, Claire is indeed that voice that carried this group...it's always like this..it's mass appeal...but I'm glad they have matured from this and
the other girls were VERY catty towards Claire back then.....because she didn't drink and party, but stayed in at night....and very catty that Claire got more leads due to the better voice. I think I would've left as well!!!
I remember when I first watched this back in 2011 and I was shocked to learn the truth but in a way I'm actually glad to have learnt what actually happened that very night at the gold tour because when I was 9 years old I was just oblivious to what was going on but to find out not until the New Year from someone at my school that steps broke up it just broke my heart because back then steps was a huge part of my life and still is to this day. I totally understand Claire and H's reasons because I've been in similar situations where I've been isolated but I think the problem of the spilt was the lack of communication I think because Claire and H felt that they weren't close to Lee, Lisa or Faye at all and that's probably why there wasn't a lot of communication there because maybe they felt they couldn't tell them about how they were feeling because if you are feeling uncomfortable towards someone because they've may have treated you in a certain way or said something to you that makes you not want to be around them then I don't think personally I would want to go and talk to them about my problems even if I work with them but I do agree the situation could have been handled differently. But then again if this split didn't happen we wouldn't have had this documentary the number one Ultimate Collection album, the Amazing sold out ultimate tour, the light up the World album, The Christmas tour of 2012 and of course the 20th anniversary celebration last year. Everything happens for a reason so in a way I think it was destined that they split was meant to happen so then the band could get back together and move on to do bigger and better things together as a band and as friends and look at them now they're closer than ever. And I am so lucky to have been part of this journey since 1997 ever since I first saw 5678 on the music video channel and just following the journey as a steps fan and then eventually becoming a steps superfan due to my loyalty, dedication and standing by them for the last 21 years
This is really quite awkward to watch. And also... I feel like I'm losing respect for H here, he seems to be just agreeing with the others and leaving Claire in the lurch, when it was both of them who decided to leave the way they did.. But in saying that, Claire, who has always been my favourite, does interrupt a lot. I've gotten lot more respect for Lee, who is quite calm..
@@olliestone5051 I agree with RainyDayWitch. It seems to me that H was letting Claire take all of the heat. As I watched this video, I wondered if this scene would have even been shot if H and Claire had been successful as a duo. They likely wouldn't give the other 3 the time of day for this talk, publicly made comments about how much they "love" their former singing partners, and never acknowledged that they basically shafted them. Faye comes across very well in this --- specifically voices her concerns, allows them to respond and never loses her cool. Lee also is very calm about the entire thing. Personally, I wouldn't have much dealing with Claire or H as I would never truly trust either one of them again.
That isn't fair on H at all. If he felt tonnes of regret about the split & Claire felt like she had 2 do it 4 herself so they're coming from 2 different perspectives. H has the right 2 regret as much as Claire has the right 2 stand by her decision
It sounded like H was immature and fame got to his head a lot and of course he was hyperactive as well. What he said to Lee about him not singing was bang out of order. I think H has calmed down a lot lately and realised what he was like.
I was hoping that when Lisa asked who ended the group Steps, the answer would be their manager Tim Byrne but no it's not. It means both H and Claire are the main instruments for the split.
Uniting, not siding with management and putting fame and fortune ASIDE makes a band a life long union with real life long relationships (not just a public working facade). Example of bands that united against management are: New Kids on the Block Back Street Boys NSync Hence till this day they remain as a band or life long friends.
I'm glad that they had this opportunity to just express their pains and grudges about what had happened ten years ago. It's healthy to have a confrontation. Currently, they are much healed and mature which makes me happy.
Claire: If you look back at probably the issues that we had ten years ago and you think about them now, they are actually really silly Faye: What were the issues? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lost a lot of respect for Claire here, diverting from answering the questions with her crocodile tears I just don't buy it. But also the fact she just didn't seem to recognise that the way in which she left was completely wrong. She might say they weren't close enough to have that talk but at the end of the day if there was a clause in their written group agreement then she's obliged to fulfill it just like we all are when you hand in your notice, regardless of how good/bad your rapport is with managers etc.
started this year hearing there music was obbsed with them the videos the have done i agree everybody who are fans of them whatever yes they said that stuff was gabage still fans do love them
Oh..my...I'm so sad about. my favourite groups, what's going on? I wish and pray that these groups be re-united again. or maybe i'm late about these video. go go go..STEPS, get together. for your FANS and ADMIRERs SAKE!! GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU (STEPS.)
Let's face it Claire and H wanted to be soloists, they kept getting more and more lines but in the end they quit because they thought there was jealousy between them and the other members. It was a very selfish narcissistic situation. Did Claire not stop to think that Lisa, Lee and Faye wanted to be singers all their lives too, this was all about her and still most likely is. Even in this documentary you can see she is deluded thinking it wasn't her fault and that she was ganged up on.
I think she was. The others were jealous that as the superior vocalist she got all the main focus in a lot of their songs. If they were all such great singers, why didn't they have great successful careers after Steps? Simple - none of them except Claire was as good as they thought they were. It's the same with S Club 7, what exactly have they done since breaking up? A couple tried solo careers that went nowhere. They were a great as a team, no good alone
Claire needed to apologise here. That's all that was needed. H apologised in his way. Claire needed to. I kbps this was ten years ago. It's extremely brave of Steps to do this. It's a great lesson about humility. Saying sorry doesn't cost anything.
I thought Claire and H were really selfish to make that sudden decision without informing the other three especially right before a major show. It also really annoys me how Claire isn’t the least bit apologetic and thinks that what she’s done wasn’t wrong. At least H apologised and can admit it was a wrong decision. I feel Claire is very selfish and a bit of a prima-donna Diva. Faye handled this situation so well and it shows that she is more mature than Claire. I also feel that there’s a lot of tension between Lisa and Claire and I can kind of understand why. I don’t get why Lee didn’t hardly say anything.
I love Steps so much and I was gutted when I found out they split but this was like a few years after because I was only little when they split. And now watching all of these reunion interviews and them reflecting back on what happened on that night, it does make people realise that they shouldn't be so quick to judge. If Faye, Lisa and Lee all left, Claire and H would've felt the same way that they did back then. And yes, they had had enough and although H and Claire got together as a duet not long after, it's not like they formed a duet like a day after the split or anything. Faye has always exaggerated on why the band split the way they did and Lee and Lisa had her back on confronting Claire and H. It was their choice to leave, they didn't have to explain themselves. But, its 20 years into their music business now and they've reunited to get back out there and make themselves, their families and their fans proud. Let's just hope they don't keep bringing up the past all because of the way they left the group and their friends. It was probably just a spur of the moment, anyone else would've done the same. No disrespect to anyone. I am a huge Steps fan, I developed a passion for them because of my sister, just like I developed a passion for other bands like Westlife, S Club, Boyzone, A1, Backstreet Boys, McFly, Busted, etc. Sorry my comment is so long by the way LOL.
i wondered after all that have been said here in this table.. how did they end the conversation.. for us viewers.. its like everything is up in the air.. next thing we saw steps has a new album and tour around the country.. maybe all well annd ends well.. hope we also be part of that rresolution that you guys concocted before stepping into a tour
It seems odd to me that they can't get their heads around what happened. The way that it ended was how it was inevitably going to end. All bands split up and it's usually when things get bad. If things are not bad they don't split up. Five young people that didn't know each other beforehand thrown together into a high stress environment - of course tensions are going to arise. How could they not? When you have 5 singers and no musicians, everyone is competing to get the biggest singing spot. The best looking one with the best voice is always going to get more attention than the others.You could have predicted this happening on the day that they signed their contracts. Watch the David Essex films 'That'll be the Day' and 'Stardust' from 1973/4. This same scenario is played out exactly - 25 years before. Look at the story of the Bangles - same deal. The only difference is that in those cases there wasn't a dick head like 'H' involved.
After hearing most of their songs two days ago, here's what I think about Steps now. I feel like Claire and H are hogging the spotlight almost all the time, which upsets me. But I'm glad that Faye and Lisa managed to get their fair share in singing their parts every now and then. As for Lee, they did him real shady by not letting have any solo parts at all, except for songs like 5678, Say You'll Be Mine, Neon Blue, and A Hundred Years of Winter.
Claire was definitely not to be trusted back then. She must've felt she was more talented than the other girls but then again, things were different back then, they were younger and more naive. Business and fame can obviously result in popstars becoming selfish and there's always one or two people in a group who want to go on to Solo success, such as Diana Ross. She was a nightmare in The Supremes but look where it got her. Global fame and notoriety! I LOVE all of Steps. I think their music is pure "cheese" but it's bloody good cheese and they can sing. I suppose Claire has the "best" voice, but I adore Lisa. She seems like the nicest girl in the group next to Faye. Lee is adorable. What you see is what you get. H is sweet. Faye is so bubbly and Claire has real stage charisma. I love their music both old and new.
It's made me think that there's a bit more anger there then I expected, still - Claire Sorry but what did Claire expect - Lee, Lisa and Faye to sweep what she and H did back in 2001 under the carpet
All 3 of those girls have great voices and each of them should have had a lead part in seperate songs to make it fair, H was a pain in the rear, i couldn't stand him, and Lee should have had more lead vocals because he had a better voice than H and that's the truth...i wouldn't trust H as far as i could throw him!
# all the 5 members of the step with confrontation-reunion because need to frank talk.it's releasing about feeling to each other.no fight of step group members.it's all 5 group members of steps still friends.
Where to watch the full video?.. I'm one of their biggest fan. Just want to know each of their side. It really breaks my heart after their split up.. :-(
also they did not think of it then because if they had and would have found 2 really good people they could have continued on like some other bands have done. also i feel that if Claire would have carried on to prevent disappointing them then she would have made herself really ill and also could have caused steps to instead of go out on a high start declining.
Im the biggest Fan of STEPS. i was a kid when im singing and dancing their music. i guess they have big misunderstanding all throughout their career. and they should know that being on a group will eventually end on separate ways. they should kept that in MIND. they realized they don't have a manager nor career after the final concert because, i guess they don't have money anymore and lifestyle is going down for them.
it's been a long time.. let them heal wounds.no need to explain,,just apologize. i really thought H and Claire get married.. but I think before they were offered a big money to do an album that's why they left the group..unfortunately..technology is so fast, casette tapes were replaced by cds. let's jsut be happy for them
i love faye so much because she clearly loves each member of the group and tells it like it is without offending people
She was like the mother of the group
Well done Faye, Lisa and lee for holding them to account. Especially faye you handled this really well
Faye handled this so well.
She was essentially/figurativelly/literally the elder sister of the whole group and the one whom felt like she failed in keeping the family together, because they were a FAMILY...Lee was the second oldest(Trying to be everyones strength and willpower), Lisa the middle child(Whom felt betrayed and hurt and I honestly feel sorry for Lisa above all everyone), H(Despite his Hyperactivity, was feeling drained and wanted to do other stuff)was the second youngest and Claire(She was afraid which is why she panicked and jumped ship) was the youngest of them all.
@@PeterBerisha this is accurate as in personality wise but in reality lee and lisa are both older than faye and none of it was her fault even though she felt like it was
I totally agree with you on that and the fact that h sort of left Clare on her own to sort out why they both left that does boil me I must admit
I think Lisa, Faye and Lee were very eloquent in their delivery of questions, but I don't feel any of them were answered 😣
faye is one seriously strong human being. i adore her.
Faye is beautiful, humble and honest. Loved her and Lee ever since the beginning. Lee is a badass btw; he trains martial arts even up to this day. ☺
I love that Lee was just listening and observing, giving short statements but straight to the point.. Maybe that's why I find him attractive.. Him and Faye are my fave though I love this group since then and I am sooo happy they were able to put aside their issues and reunite for the best.❤❤❤
I love how they are very honest and confronting each other and yet there is no shouting and cursing still calm and civilized
ABSOLUTELY
*H* and *Claire* acting like they have amnesia
Haha. Very true. I agree. Great comment
Couldn't agree more. H and Claire wanted to walk away from show business but they made single(s).
putting faye in between h and claire was such a good decision bc she’s not the type of person to take any shit from people
I like Faye, so sincere!!!
I'm so glad we got them back. They are such a close family these days. They bring me such joy with each new song. I feel like we've all grown up together. They are about the same age as me. All the more recent comments are talking like this was filmed yesterday but it was filmed in 2011. That's a whole nine years. They aren't like this anymore. They relaunched as a business where everyone is equal. While they are signed with BMG now the last album was self released on their own imprint. They are in their mid 40s now. Times have moved on.
It's clear how it started and how it ended. Claire, as the best vocalist, was given most of the lines. This led to Faye, Lisa and Lee feeling resentful towards Claire and Claire feeling excluded by Faye, Lisa and Lee. H just tagged along with Claire because he thought it would further his career. Hence the band was split in two.
Also H didn't want to do lead because he was dating their manager at the time
Back then I only cared for Lee & Faye. After this clip, I am so glad I felt that way.
i love Faye!!
I cryied when Faye asked Clair did you really hate us. I can see Faye is really mad to what happened to the band.
Claire and H thought that they were gonna be huge stars without Steps! Epic fail!
I love steps so much! Steps as a whole group not as individual!
I guess their ego got the best of them as it does to all of us in one form or another...
There singles got in the top 10 though
@@jamesmclellan2408 their album debuted at #58 on the charts and then fell off the charts after one week, it TANKED. The only reason they got a couple of top 10 singles was because there was enough hype around them (they released just a few months after leaving Steps) to score them a single week in the top 10 following months of pre-orders. Their entire act was a complete failure and based on short-lived hype
@@PeterBerisha happens with most bands
I just can't help but think that H is the one behind all of this and persuaded Claire to leave and now tries to wash his hands of it all. I truly think he was the instigator of the break up just by his demeanor and overall attitude. Too bad he wasn't replaced...
They didn't answer to Faye's questions. Claire just cried and H said that he regretted it. No apologies, no explanations. It's not the point that Claire and H were tired and wanted to leave the group. The point is that it was very wrong of them to notify the rest of the group of their departure just 1 hour before their last show. Also, It was not a momentary decision. It was planned way before the last concert. After the concert, every staff and management was gone for the next project: H & Claire, and none was left for the rest 3. And how foolish were H and Claire that they actually believed that people would love them just after few weeks passed since their breakup. I personally think that the rest 3 might have had their own faults of the group's disharmony, but even if they were not friends but they were still colleagues and they deserved the truth.
Yes totally agree. H and Clair were young and very selfish and foolish. I can see the group weren’t really close friends, I don’t know why.
They were still so young and were trying to figure themselves out way before they even knew what they wanted. Yes, I understand that I know nothing about our beloved quintuplets/siblings or what they went through their 5/6 years of being together so I can't add nor provide anything to this comment to say that I know what they went through, because I REALLY DON'T, so the only thing for me is to just back off and mind my own business, but I feel compelled to say that Claire and H( I will always Love them regardless of my civilian position in society) destroyed the group and I understand they wanted to try new things, but leaving everything behind and going off on their own without addressing important matters, such as communication and just putting their problems on the table for everyone to figure out and fix, or try to work around it was scary I guess, and it could be why H and Claire left, because they were afraid to see what comes next? I'm still heartbroken for Faye, Lee and Lisa and they deserved better.
claire and h just carried on with there singing.
They knew they were wrong to ditch the band like they did. Nothing they say would make that better
Nah, Claire did what she had to do. She keeps saying to them "working with you was awful, we didnt speak to each other, i was miserable, i had to get out". And they dont respond to that at all. No regret, apology or explanation of how they treated her.
I felt for lisa's hurt. Lisa your still my number one STEP idol even time passes by You so nice person, in front or even at the back of the cam.
Lisa can’t sing at all!! Without Claire’s voice she’d have been in the gutter!
She's my fave member of STEPS
watching this now - with them releasing the Hard To Forget song and video for their 25th PLATINUM ANNIVERSEY IS SO BITTER SWEET - SO GLAD THEY ARE STILL HERE RELEVANT AND SMASHING IT
They were all incredibly mature, civil and brave for coming together to air things out after so long.
Knowing what happened in the background and how they felt was both
something you wanted to know and needed to know but also wished it
wasn't true.
For "H" to say and accept that his actions caused unnecessary grief and hindsight was error in judgement was incredible and gives renewed respect to hi
I liked Faye and lee they was the only 2 who came out of the hotel at night to talk to me and my friends in Manchester
I like how real they are and yet very decent when they say their opinions to each other, no stupid cat fights or shouting, they are all very class
I like them for not having petty, childish arguments, and the way they talked it through like true grown-ups.
faye is such a quiet and calm savage this is was so sad then but it’s so funny now
H "claire you bury your head in the sand"
3 minute later
H : "I wish I hadn't taken part in this"
I felt the guilt and awkwardness of this confrontation. My Gosh,... 😭😭😭 And I am now crying. I miss you guys.
I mean... they were business partners as well & the way they split was downright unprofessional, whether or not they were close as friends.
I'll tell you this much: half the issues that festered amongst them for years were partly because of their manager Tim. After reading Claire's autobiography and seeing how other bands have been treated in the industry in the past, I'm no doubt he was definitely a contributor to the problems the band members had with one another. He sounds like a complete Svengali figure who was pulling their strings behind the scenes.
He really was. I'm sure Faye, Lisa & Lee knew their vocal capabilities compared to Claire, they don't want to be the leader but they're a vocal group, they just want to get fair share of line distribution but Tim Byrne couldn't understand it.
I used to like them equally before realizing their problems and the split.
Now my only favorite is Faye, vocally, personally and in any other ways.
I cried when Faye asked “ did you really hate us? “
Knowing now that they are on tour again in 2022, makes me glad they sorted things out. But I didn't know about this split 10 years ago, I'm thinking this new tour is happening because the group aren't as well of as they should be for the success they had .
Faye handled it amazing and kept H and Claire accountable but I feel Claire didn't take any responsibility or have any remorse just turned the tears on when Faye was only wanting a straightforward answer I thought was rude of Claire
Faye is the bravest one and my only favorite back then. Also I've always thought Lee kinda looked like Ben Affleck.
I thought he looks like ryan giggs
Simeon Jackman-Smith awwww hell no!!!!
Darth Omega Claire is crying instead of apologozing
Lee is gorgeous.
Faye was the best one out of steps xx
this is all history but this is a classic example of how inequality in any kind of group ultimately leads to conflict. the classic example is The Supremes (Diana Ross). Three ladies started singing and each had some lead songs - jump forward a couple of years and Diana Ross was pushed to the front leaving the other two ladies very hurt and dejected. Eventually the group split and Diana Ross did not talk to the other ladies for some years. There has been conflict in most bands. The key is to let everyone have their own significance within the group (sharing the leads) and also ensuring you have similar personalities. Once you mix personalities and levels of talent, you end up with friction.
Same with The Bangles
It breaks my heart to see them like this. 😢 Hope these issues will be resolved and make their friendships stronger. 💗
I cryied when Faye asked Clair did you really hate us. I can see Faye is really mad to what happened to the band.
DaNgEr88GiRL I think the whole situation had the biggest effect on Faye ❤️ breaks my hearts because I fee she’s the nicest and most genuine out of the group.
There's one thing missing from this documentary- Tim Byrne, the ex-manager. I know he and H are no longer together, but he hasn't shared his side of the story.
For some reason, they didn't give him the chance to explain his actions, or at least apologize to the other members (Faye, Lee, Lisa) for his role in the split. His handling of the vocals issue, the secret relationship with H, and leaving with H & Claire. Faye's comment that songwriters were writing for the duo indicate that Byrne had been planning this for quite some time....
Maybe he's too ashamed to admit that he took advantage of Five Young People. Alot of Managers are really bad. Remember what happened with Louis Walsh (Girls Aloud). He made a pointed remark about their weight and he didn't even "Manage" them. Kimberley Walsh Managed them for Two Years before Hilary Shaw took over who also as you know managed Banarama. If TLC had a Manager like Hilary instead of that "Thief" Peri "Pebbles" Reid former Wife Of LA Reid that Cheryl Ann Tweedy worked with briefly on The X Factor US things woudl have worked out differently.
@@laminage I think this seems to be common to a lot of 90s/00s pop acts. Most of them became successful in their late teens/early twenties (some even younger, Billie Piper wasn't even 16 when her first single went to number one). You are still quite vulnerable at that age, but you see a lot of them now and how splitting up or being dropped affected them. And I'll be honest here, a lot of these so called managers - Tim being one, Nigel Martin Smith with Take That being another and Lou Pearlman being a whole other can of worms with Backstreet Boys, *NSYNC and O-Town, should've known better and quite patently demonstrated that they had no business managing these acts in the first place.
I wasn't aware of the secret relationship but that now clearly explains why Lee was never given much to sing in the early years as H wanted the spotlight on himself as much as possible, even though his talent level was questionable...
Thank you. This answers alot of questions of what went wrong more than a decade ago.
faye is so sincere
i love how Lee is so chill XD
To be honest I wouldn't even join this meeting if I was Lee.
Ten years later and they still weren't being honest with each other....no wonder they were doomed.
putting this out there, Claire is indeed that voice that carried this group...it's always like this..it's mass appeal...but I'm glad they have matured from this and
the other girls were VERY catty towards Claire back then.....because she didn't drink and party, but stayed in at night....and very catty that Claire got more leads due to the better voice. I think I would've left as well!!!
I remember when I first watched this back in 2011 and I was shocked to learn the truth but in a way I'm actually glad to have learnt what actually happened that very night at the gold tour because when I was 9 years old I was just oblivious to what was going on but to find out not until the New Year from someone at my school that steps broke up it just broke my heart because back then steps was a huge part of my life and still is to this day.
I totally understand Claire and H's reasons because I've been in similar situations where I've been isolated but I think the problem of the spilt was the lack of communication I think because Claire and H felt that they weren't close to Lee, Lisa or Faye at all and that's probably why there wasn't a lot of communication there because maybe they felt they couldn't tell them about how they were feeling because if you are feeling uncomfortable towards someone because they've may have treated you in a certain way or said something to you that makes you not want to be around them then I don't think personally I would want to go and talk to them about my problems even if I work with them but I do agree the situation could have been handled differently.
But then again if this split didn't happen we wouldn't have had this documentary the number one Ultimate Collection album, the Amazing sold out ultimate tour, the light up the World album, The Christmas tour of 2012 and of course the 20th anniversary celebration last year. Everything happens for a reason so in a way I think it was destined that they split was meant to happen so then the band could get back together and move on to do bigger and better things together as a band and as friends and look at them now they're closer than ever.
And I am so lucky to have been part of this journey since 1997 ever since I first saw 5678 on the music video channel and just following the journey as a steps fan and then eventually becoming a steps superfan due to my loyalty, dedication and standing by them for the last 21 years
Wow! Your comment made me cry because of how much sense it made. I couldn't agree more!
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This is really quite awkward to watch.
And also... I feel like I'm losing respect for H here, he seems to be just agreeing with the others and leaving Claire in the lurch, when it was both of them who decided to leave the way they did..
But in saying that, Claire, who has always been my favourite, does interrupt a lot.
I've gotten lot more respect for Lee, who is quite calm..
RainyDayWitch I don’t feel that Claire was the least bit apologetic. At least H apologised and admitted to the others what he did was wrong.
@@olliestone5051 I agree with RainyDayWitch. It seems to me that H was letting Claire take all of the heat. As I watched this video, I wondered if this scene would have even been shot if H and Claire had been successful as a duo. They likely wouldn't give the other 3 the time of day for this talk, publicly made comments about how much they "love" their former singing partners, and never acknowledged that they basically shafted them. Faye comes across very well in this --- specifically voices her concerns, allows them to respond and never loses her cool. Lee also is very calm about the entire thing. Personally, I wouldn't have much dealing with Claire or H as I would never truly trust either one of them again.
That isn't fair on H at all. If he felt tonnes of regret about the split & Claire felt like she had 2 do it 4 herself so they're coming from 2 different perspectives. H has the right 2 regret as much as Claire has the right 2 stand by her decision
Faye, Lisa and Lee are the nicest members and the best looking as well
It sounded like H was immature and fame got to his head a lot and of course he was hyperactive as well. What he said to Lee about him not singing was bang out of order. I think H has calmed down a lot lately and realised what he was like.
I was hoping that when Lisa asked who ended the group Steps, the answer would be their manager Tim Byrne but no it's not. It means both H and Claire are the main instruments for the split.
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Uniting, not siding with management and putting fame and fortune ASIDE makes a
band a life long union with real life long relationships (not just a
public working facade).
Example of bands that united against management are:
New Kids on the Block
Back Street Boys
NSync
Hence till this day they remain as a band or life long friends.
5:14 faye laughing at h for trying to make claire look bad is so funny
He came off looking the worst out of all of them in my opinion
@@ForzaTerra89 Absolutely, H showed no remorse whatsoever.
I'm glad that they had this opportunity to just express their pains and grudges about what had happened ten years ago. It's healthy to have a confrontation.
Currently, they are much healed and mature which makes me happy.
maria uldarico Also they said they would never ever split up again!
The only Steps footage where H manage's to not smile or laugh :O
Claire: If you look back at probably the issues that we had ten years ago and you think about them now, they are actually really silly
Faye: What were the issues?
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They were young at the time of their success
They never think what will happen with out the group.
Lee is cool
I still Love them
This was awkwardly brilliant to watch! 🙈😂
Well claire was the strongest singer out of them all. Fair play to claire and her career shes doing so well. Best wishes for the future 💞
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this is so heartbreaking to watch eventhough this is long ago.
Lost a lot of respect for Claire here, diverting from answering the questions with her crocodile tears I just don't buy it.
But also the fact she just didn't seem to recognise that the way in which she left was completely wrong. She might say they weren't close enough to have that talk but at the end of the day if there was a clause in their written group agreement then she's obliged to fulfill it just like we all are when you hand in your notice, regardless of how good/bad your rapport is with managers etc.
Nicola Platt I feel Claire has been very selfish and she probably thinks that because she has the best voice she can do whatever she wants
This was so needed
started this year hearing there music was obbsed with them the videos the have done i agree everybody who are fans of them whatever yes they said that stuff was gabage still fans do love them
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Oh..my...I'm so sad about. my favourite groups, what's going on? I wish and pray that these groups be re-united again. or maybe i'm late about these video. go go go..STEPS, get together. for your FANS and ADMIRERs SAKE!! GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU (STEPS.)
the steps really do seem a lot happier now
Good on you Faye speaking up x
Let's face it Claire and H wanted to be soloists, they kept getting more and more lines but in the end they quit because they thought there was jealousy between them and the other members. It was a very selfish narcissistic situation. Did Claire not stop to think that Lisa, Lee and Faye wanted to be singers all their lives too, this was all about her and still most likely is. Even in this documentary you can see she is deluded thinking it wasn't her fault and that she was ganged up on.
I think she was. The others were jealous that as the superior vocalist she got all the main focus in a lot of their songs.
If they were all such great singers, why didn't they have great successful careers after Steps? Simple - none of them except Claire was as good as they thought they were.
It's the same with S Club 7, what exactly have they done since breaking up? A couple tried solo careers that went nowhere. They were a great as a team, no good alone
this is the first time that i watch this..i dont know what to say..it broke my heart to see them like this..now i know why they disbanded 😞
Claire needed to apologise here. That's all that was needed. H apologised in his way. Claire needed to.
I kbps this was ten years ago. It's extremely brave of Steps to do this. It's a great lesson about humility. Saying sorry doesn't cost anything.
Like a family reunion with a lot of raw wounds still left to fix.
Or a divorce. lol
This should be done in private. So they could honestly tell each other what they feel.
I love you guys.....
I thought Claire and H were really selfish to make that sudden decision without informing the other three especially right before a major show. It also really annoys me how Claire isn’t the least bit apologetic and thinks that what she’s done wasn’t wrong. At least H apologised and can admit it was a wrong decision. I feel Claire is very selfish and a bit of a prima-donna Diva. Faye handled this situation so well and it shows that she is more mature than Claire. I also feel that there’s a lot of tension between Lisa and Claire and I can kind of understand why. I don’t get why Lee didn’t hardly say anything.
Claire is very Plastic.'' It's so unfair to Lisa, Faye and Lee.
Go Faye speak your mind ♥️♥
I love Steps so much and I was gutted when I found out they split but this was like a few years after because I was only little when they split. And now watching all of these reunion interviews and them reflecting back on what happened on that night, it does make people realise that they shouldn't be so quick to judge. If Faye, Lisa and Lee all left, Claire and H would've felt the same way that they did back then. And yes, they had had enough and although H and Claire got together as a duet not long after, it's not like they formed a duet like a day after the split or anything. Faye has always exaggerated on why the band split the way they did and Lee and Lisa had her back on confronting Claire and H. It was their choice to leave, they didn't have to explain themselves. But, its 20 years into their music business now and they've reunited to get back out there and make themselves, their families and their fans proud. Let's just hope they don't keep bringing up the past all because of the way they left the group and their friends. It was probably just a spur of the moment, anyone else would've done the same. No disrespect to anyone. I am a huge Steps fan, I developed a passion for them because of my sister, just like I developed a passion for other bands like Westlife, S Club, Boyzone, A1, Backstreet Boys, McFly, Busted, etc. Sorry my comment is so long by the way LOL.
i wondered after all that have been said here in this table.. how did they end the conversation.. for us viewers.. its like everything is up in the air.. next thing we saw steps has a new album and tour around the country.. maybe all well annd ends well.. hope we also be part of that rresolution that you guys concocted before stepping into a tour
Was devastated when steps split didn't like Claire and h for a long time but have fallen in love with them and steps again ❤
Faye ICONIC
It seems odd to me that they can't get their heads around what happened.
The way that it ended was how it was inevitably going to end. All bands split up and it's usually when things get bad. If things are not bad they don't split up.
Five young people that didn't know each other beforehand thrown together into a high stress environment - of course tensions are going to arise. How could they not?
When you have 5 singers and no musicians, everyone is competing to get the biggest singing spot. The best looking one with the best voice is always going to get more attention than the others.You could have predicted this happening on the day that they signed their contracts.
Watch the David Essex films 'That'll be the Day' and 'Stardust' from 1973/4. This same scenario is played out exactly - 25 years before. Look at the story of the Bangles - same deal.
The only difference is that in those cases there wasn't a dick head like 'H' involved.
Cant agree no more. H stands for hypocrite
I love Faye
I miss steps so much
After hearing most of their songs two days ago, here's what I think about Steps now. I feel like Claire and H are hogging the spotlight almost all the time, which upsets me. But I'm glad that Faye and Lisa managed to get their fair share in singing their parts every now and then. As for Lee, they did him real shady by not letting have any solo parts at all, except for songs like 5678, Say You'll Be Mine, Neon Blue, and A Hundred Years of Winter.
Faye was just so brave! Whoa!
I've always liked Faye and will always do. She's mature
Claire was definitely not to be trusted back then. She must've felt she was more talented than the other girls but then again, things were different back then, they were younger and more naive. Business and fame can obviously result in popstars becoming selfish and there's always one or two people in a group who want to go on to Solo success, such as Diana Ross. She was a nightmare in The Supremes but look where it got her. Global fame and notoriety!
I LOVE all of Steps. I think their music is pure "cheese" but it's bloody good cheese and they can sing. I suppose Claire has the "best" voice, but I adore Lisa. She seems like the nicest girl in the group next to Faye. Lee is adorable. What you see is what you get. H is sweet. Faye is so bubbly and Claire has real stage charisma. I love their music both old and new.
It's made me think that there's a bit more anger there then I expected, still - Claire
Sorry but what did Claire expect - Lee, Lisa and Faye to sweep what she and H did back in 2001 under the carpet
All 3 of those girls have great voices and each of them should have had a lead part in seperate songs to make it fair, H was a pain in the rear, i couldn't stand him, and Lee should have had more lead vocals because he had a better voice than H and that's the truth...i wouldn't trust H as far as i could throw him!
Lisa does not have a great voice lol
H & Claire defo did a number on the others, with their other stuff!
great telly
can you upload the whole documentary please?
Faye spilt so much truth
My favr is Faye since 4 yrs old to 20
# all the 5 members of the step with confrontation-reunion because need to frank talk.it's releasing about feeling to each other.no fight of step group members.it's all 5 group members of steps still friends.
I wish the Sugababes would do this. All 6 girls sit around a table and Talk it out.
I couldn't agree more! Especially since I'm in love with the first three girls of Sugababes during their One Touch era.
Still difficult to watch this a second/third time 😢
Where to watch the full video?.. I'm one of their biggest fan. Just want to know each of their side. It really breaks my heart after their split up.. :-(
Me too. I've been searching the internet where I can watch the full episodes but still can't find. 👲💔
liza and Faye are so beautiful
They are beautiful
@@PeterBerisha They certainly are
I wonder if H knows how much people hate him , he's such a smug so and so .
also they did not think of it then because if they had and would have found 2 really good people they could have continued on like some other bands have done. also i feel that if Claire would have carried on to prevent disappointing them then she would have made herself really ill and also could have caused steps to instead of go out on a high start declining.
At least they should have a closure, even if they wont come back again as a group. At least they should know the truth.
BOMBSHELL at 2:28!
their is something with H attitude and also with claire, all should be fair all should have their own verse, all of them have talent in singing.
Im the biggest Fan of STEPS. i was a kid when im singing and dancing their music. i guess they have big misunderstanding all throughout their career. and they should know that being on a group will eventually end on separate ways. they should kept that in MIND. they realized they don't have a manager nor career after the final concert because, i guess they don't have money anymore and lifestyle is going down for them.
Not according to Backstreet Boys though.
it's been a long time.. let them heal wounds.no need to explain,,just apologize. i really thought H and Claire get married.. but I think before they were offered a big money to do an album that's why they left the group..unfortunately..technology is so fast, casette tapes were replaced by cds. let's jsut be happy for them
It shows how selfish Claire and H were and are. I've hated them ever since and always hoped the other 3 went on to do better that them
Very mature attitude there. 🙄