How Army Lost the Support of Pakistan’s Middle Class ft. Niaz Murtaza | 417 | TBT

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  • Опубліковано 12 жов 2024

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  • @shoaibkhattak3511
    @shoaibkhattak3511 2 дні тому +12

    Clarity of this guest is amazing. After HEC chairman from ep 93, this guest clarity of thought is fabulous❤

  • @northern_light
    @northern_light 2 дні тому +16

    If you can't put your house in order, it's nonsense to discuss how other families are doing. Pakistan needs fundamental reform in politics. It discusses more geopolitics than of its internal problems

    • @rajaafaq497
      @rajaafaq497 День тому

      Ja ja tur ja

    • @linkotalks
      @linkotalks День тому

      bhae hum guma phira k hi bat kar sakty hain, direct bat karn tou utha laity hain us ko

  • @navidahmad7459
    @navidahmad7459 День тому +2

    As an old man I pray our establishment get together with politicians and other institutions and work out for a middle ground for the sake of country.

  • @AshiqWaheed-g8c
    @AshiqWaheed-g8c День тому +17

    Imran Khan was unable to do something Different between 2018 - 2022 because of Forces behind General Bajwa was interrupted every time Imran khan want do more Progressive and Different
    Somebody have to Stop General’s Interference
    According to my Analysis

    • @Pal3stin3ix_Lov3
      @Pal3stin3ix_Lov3 День тому +4

      @@AshiqWaheed-g8c so you mean Imran was a spineless guy?Had bajwa been the wrong person why didn't Imran asked him to mind his own business or just resign? Also remember Pervaiz Illahi never let anybody badmouth about bajwa.

    • @brs802
      @brs802 День тому +4

      Why did he give him extension then. He could have appointed a guy as per his wish. He was either spineless or a fool😂. Or maybe he was complicit.

    • @Adnan-cm9zp
      @Adnan-cm9zp День тому

      What you forget to write is, IK was puppet of Bajwa

  • @MianSherjil
    @MianSherjil 17 годин тому +1

    Your guest as a very superfecial knowledge of the problem. Where ever you ask in depth question for example why remote sindh didnt rise up against these status quo his answer is same as taught to the urban masses by the army.

  • @manojchowdhary4208
    @manojchowdhary4208 День тому +13

    Sir - Pakistan should never worry. Pakistan is a nazriati mulq like Israel, formed during the holy month, and Waahid Islamic nuclear power of the world. Pakistan’s problems are caused by saazish of yahood o hanood o nissara though China is a trusted friend. Pakistan is also a leader of the Muslim ummah and provides security to them all over the world.

    • @srinivasanpr1112
      @srinivasanpr1112 День тому +3

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September former dictator worked as employee of jordon to throu plo into syria in 1971

    • @Khan_O
      @Khan_O День тому +4

      Hahahaha this is a joke right?

    • @neverknow5931
      @neverknow5931 16 годин тому +1

      Hahahahaha either you're faujeet or you've good humour

  • @pramodofindia
    @pramodofindia 16 годин тому +1

    India was politically stable even when it was NOT following neoliberal policies.

  • @FajuzStream
    @FajuzStream 10 годин тому +1

    Great questions on leadership vacuum section...

  • @aminraja5383
    @aminraja5383 День тому +2

    In case of breaking PTI then TLP emerge with more dangerous

  • @nitinsaklecha3262
    @nitinsaklecha3262 День тому +2

    Elephant in the room is china...they are not talking about....USA has gone away from PAK because of PAK and China closeness in last decades

  • @avtarwasson4875
    @avtarwasson4875 2 дні тому +2

    Nice to see Niaz and enjoy reading his articles.

  • @kachrachi
    @kachrachi 17 годин тому +1

    Muzamil's views have disappeared. Perhaps due to the monotony of the content and long duration? Point to ponder.

  • @srinivasanpr1112
    @srinivasanpr1112 День тому +2

    pak stop blaming others andlook inward on the corrupt people, society and ruler

  • @asimjabbar8445
    @asimjabbar8445 День тому +1

    Everyone knows the problem. Military Business industrial complex, oppressive agencies, absolute control, absolute authority, sheer incompetence of the absolute powerful. Mafia rent seekers ganged up with them Etc etc.
    What's the practical viable solution? What people and masses can do under these circumstances for better future? Ask for the solutions plz. The problem has been discussed to death for past 3 or so years. But what's the practical solution for the common man, given the circumstances and elites gonna be the same or even worse than that obviously

  • @razashahzaidi
    @razashahzaidi 12 годин тому +1

    Kindly select 1 language for ur podcasts... English OR Urdu
    The combination is not easy to understand

  • @Shobi342
    @Shobi342 День тому +2

    😊 good points, can you share leadership development examples in other countries. If u go by people will and votes they have 4 tested leaders, MNS,IK,AAZ, MFR.

  • @zahirshah7683
    @zahirshah7683 День тому +1

    Insightful analysis.

  • @muhammadasimsabir8526
    @muhammadasimsabir8526 2 дні тому +1

    Bohot achi baten ki gai hain is podcast men, abhi bhi kuch umeed hai k Pakistan ko sahi kiya ja sakta hai and I am sure k jab bhi koi bhi Pakistan k liye acha karnay jayayga Pakistan lovers hamesha usko pasand karengay aur past ki ghalatiyon ko bhi bhool jaingay. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!

  • @tariquekhan1118
    @tariquekhan1118 День тому +2

    What are "middle class" in Pakistan? What kinds of social attitudes define or describe "middle class" in Pakistan? Many in Pakistan seem to think "middle class" is about disposable income, ideas are particularly unwelcome in Pakistan, unless of course they are sold as a kind violent religiosity.
    The analysis offered is off kilter, Pakistan's dysfunction is a result of US over lordship - yawn, and this passes for not being partisan. Even Gid can't help you if you cannot be truthful.

  • @my2pence.714
    @my2pence.714 2 дні тому +1

    I have started watching this episode as soon as it got posted. Still watching.How come there are comments on the content less than 5 minutes in? The video is over an hour long. Take your time guys. Watch it through first.

  • @vijaypoola8733
    @vijaypoola8733 День тому +4

    Army should be at border protecting country or in barracks and not doing politics. IK won elections inspite of army rigging.He should be PM.

  • @Suha2270
    @Suha2270 23 години тому +1

    Good questions.

  • @notzul7138
    @notzul7138 День тому +2

    Bro says old elite system ko replace kar lein with new elite system. Literally thats what he said economic mind gymnastics terminology main 😂. Said ke neoliberal way of market ko humy khatam kar dena chahiye by state intervention and subsidies this that blah blah but end main he was like humy es neo liberal nizaam k elites (old ones) ko replace kar dena chahiye with new neo liberal elites 😂. Like pehly paani tha trickle down system main ab bro us main glucose mix kar ke dubara trickle down ki koshish karny ka keh raha 👏

  • @PakistanSimplified
    @PakistanSimplified 2 дні тому +1

    This episode featuring Dr. Niaz Murtaza provides a critical analysis of the evolving political landscape in Pakistan, particularly focusing on the shifting dynamics between the military and the middle class. Murtaza's insights into how the army has lost support from this vital demographic highlight the growing disillusionment with the traditional power structures that have long dominated the country.
    One of the most compelling points made is the disconnect between the military's perceived role as a stabilizing force and the reality of its influence over civilian governance. The middle class, once seen as a supporter of military-backed regimes, is increasingly aware of the detrimental effects of this relationship on democratic institutions and civic freedoms. Murtaza's assertion that the army’s heavy-handed approach is unsustainable resonates deeply, especially in light of the mounting pressures for accountability and transparency from the public.
    Moreover, the discussion about the historical context of Pakistan’s political turmoil adds layers to understanding current events. Murtaza effectively addresses the internal struggles that have perpetuated instability, such as the manipulation of democratic processes and the sidelining of political dissent. His analysis of the Pakistan-U.S. relationship also sheds light on how external influences have contributed to internal strife, complicating the already challenging landscape.
    The episode raises critical questions about the future of military rule in Pakistan and whether it can adapt to the aspirations of a more informed and engaged citizenry. Murtaza's emphasis on the need for constitutional reform is particularly relevant, as it suggests a pathway towards a more equitable political system. As the podcast explores the implications of movements like the PTM, it becomes evident that Pakistan is at a crossroads, facing challenges that require bold leadership and innovative solutions.
    Overall, this episode is a thought-provoking exploration of the factors contributing to Pakistan's current state, urging listeners to consider the importance of civic engagement and the role of the middle class in shaping a more democratic future. Murtaza’s articulate critique serves as a reminder that genuine change requires both introspection and collective action, making this discussion essential for anyone interested in the future of Pakistan.

  • @rajaafaq497
    @rajaafaq497 День тому +1

    Great analysis

  • @tilakmahto8179
    @tilakmahto8179 20 годин тому +1

    Why didn't u make such videos before No confidence motion ? You even defended Asim Bajwa's embezzlement then 😂😂😂

  • @mhd6341
    @mhd6341 2 дні тому +1

    Keep up the good work. Keep educating everyone 👌🏼

  • @unitedstatesofindia1460
    @unitedstatesofindia1460 2 дні тому +1

    Me from India " why is the military letting these kind of podcasts being aired " 😅😅

    • @talhapardasi3181
      @talhapardasi3181 2 дні тому

      Because they can't control it but Army is currently deploying mechanism imported from China to control content on internet Just as China controlling it's media

    • @aunabbas8582
      @aunabbas8582 День тому +1

      Itnay buray halat abhi nahi aye.

    • @saadraees09
      @saadraees09 День тому

      He’s in Dubai so he’s safe lol

    • @Abstract.x
      @Abstract.x 15 годин тому

      Because he isn't in Pakistan and his criticism of the army isn't too harsh

  • @humaira917
    @humaira917 День тому +1

    Title dekh k I was like Muzamil ka bhi abduct honay ka mood hai 😂

  • @hamzakamyana8587
    @hamzakamyana8587 16 годин тому

    عمران خان زندہ آباد۔ ❤❤❤

  • @meenahil652
    @meenahil652 День тому +1

    Isays registration closed for the Zaar thing.
    What's about it

  • @sohailkhattak6127
    @sohailkhattak6127 День тому +2

    This is a show or selfpublicity?

  • @MrMirza2423
    @MrMirza2423 День тому +2

    There is no clarity making what your guest tries to say

  • @wajahatansari1400
    @wajahatansari1400 День тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @shahbazakhtar101
    @shahbazakhtar101 2 дні тому +3

    Niaz sb said about Muzammil: "You are not biased towards a certain party..." What a joke. Earth being flat could be true but not this. He smells like youthia from even 10million miles away. Other than that Muzammil is a good man with a great podcast which I love.

    • @RabbiaShah-v1g
      @RabbiaShah-v1g День тому +1

      Cry harder. Can not even tolerate a structured argument. The mental gymnastics you have to go through to find a reason to not support PTI is sad. I pray for your mental well being and hope it doesn't pass to your future generations

    • @shahbazakhtar101
      @shahbazakhtar101 День тому

      @@RabbiaShah-v1g Lol, I am a PTI voter myself but not a Youthia. Well maybe youthia is offensive. I am not a blind supporter... Hope this is nicer.

    • @saadraees09
      @saadraees09 День тому

      There’s nothing wrong with being a supporter of a party but the fact is that he doesn’t let his bias be a part of his conversations. He like any Pakistani has the right to be in favor of the party they like. Everyone has their preferences, what matters is how they can put aside their preferences for the sake of the conversation. On the other hand there are others who claim to extremely objective, but every time they open their mouth they can’t help but show their biases.

    • @waseemchaudhary3138
      @waseemchaudhary3138 11 годин тому

      And you smell like PATWARI from even 10 million miles away. Your name SHAHBAZ is a proof 😂

  • @leopard411
    @leopard411 9 годин тому

    Youthias think Pakistan means only them. We still support our military, and no one stops anyone from doing businesses. Mehnat kar hasad na kar bhai woh bhi India se paisay le kar

  • @ZS0719
    @ZS0719 День тому +1

    PAGALISTAN mein investment is a big NO!!!!! Until they get rid of the army chiefs and generals !!!!!

  • @HuzaifaWaseem-l4x
    @HuzaifaWaseem-l4x 2 дні тому +5

    Imran Khan literally destroyed Pakistan 😭🙏🏼.

    • @ZS0719
      @ZS0719 День тому +2

      And you sound literally like a true citizen of PAGALISTAN!!!! Unbelievable JAHIL and ignorant thing to say!!!! Imran Khan has opened the eyes and minds of people!!!!!!!!!

    • @ammarqazi8074
      @ammarqazi8074 День тому

      @huzaifawaseem-l4x
      "
      1947 سے 2024 تک پاکستان کو برباد کرنے والے آج بھی اقتدار میں بیٹھے ہیں۔ کشمیر سے لے کر مشرقی پاکستان تک سب کچھ دے بیٹھے ہو اور ابھی بھی الزام خان کو دے رہے ہو۔ جاہل انسان، grow up، پٹواری جاہل، انپڑھ لوگ!

    • @HuzaifaWaseem-l4x
      @HuzaifaWaseem-l4x День тому +1

      @@ZS0719 PTI Supporters ❌ Andhbhakt ✅

    • @AkhnoorBhagat
      @AkhnoorBhagat День тому +1

      ​@@HuzaifaWaseem-l4x and shirf family and Bhutto family who destroy pakistan is good family politics and family partys destroy pakistan this reality and no speak against army rule majority of imf loan taking by shirf family and Bhutto family and military dictatorship time 😂

  • @MrBasitnazir
    @MrBasitnazir День тому

    🫡👍🏻

  • @NomyWT
    @NomyWT День тому

    😢😢 wtf bro.
    Without military you are nothing

    • @Abstract.x
      @Abstract.x 15 годин тому +1

      Oh shut up dude just shut up with this "fauj humare hifazat kerte he" bs. Literally no one's buying this anymore

  • @ashishsehgal296
    @ashishsehgal296 День тому +2

    The guest is spot on. Apni fauj ko control mien laiye

  • @spiritoforient2557
    @spiritoforient2557 6 годин тому

    جس طرح ان صاحب نے پی ٹی آئی کو ایکوئشن سے نکالا ہے اور ایم کیو ایم کو ڈالا ہے یہ یقیناً داد کے مستحق ہیں 😂

  • @Rajeevrana-d8w
    @Rajeevrana-d8w 2 дні тому +3

    Indian here 🇮🇳
    mera ek sawal hai, jab imran khan the tab pakistan mai inflation all time High pa tha, jab unhone choda tab (19% in 2022) ab inflation wagra kafi control mai hai (6% in sept 2024) "according to State bank of pakistan" , toh ap log imran khan sa itna pyar kyu karte hain? Jabki data ke according to unka time mai pak economy na jada suffer kia or ab thoda recover kar rahi hai, ground reality maybe bilkul alag ho sakti hai, correct me if I'm wrong. And Jise sa pehla koi pakistani comment kare ki tu apna desh ka dekh or apna wohi purana stereotype baat bol kie Indian's don't have toilets, toh unhe bata dun ki pakistan mai 34% people DON'T have toilets, Jake Google karlo khud world bank ki report hain. Wasa toh ek economically weak pakistan india ka lia acha hai par iske karan normal pakistani log suffer karte hain woh dekh ke as a human acha nahi lagta, Anyways love and peace from India i hope dono deshon ka relation behtar hoo. 🇮🇳🤝🇵🇰

    • @arminius6506
      @arminius6506 2 дні тому +4

      I read your two lines and just stopped. Under Khan patrol was like 140 and under Military rule it's 270-280 now

    • @Alizaiblashari-w8h
      @Alizaiblashari-w8h 2 дні тому +1

      ❤ for indians for showing sympathy. Actually it was not about Khan's policies that were also ineffective but people love him because he is against the status quo of corrupt politicians who have been stealing Pakistan's economy and always play dynastic politics that hurts every Pakistani. There is no merit in the parties other than Khan's party when it comes to dynastic politics. India Pakistan and all over countries around the world have their own challenges we should respect each other rather than mocking and leg pulling. Love and peace for India ❤

    • @Free-23-e3i
      @Free-23-e3i 2 дні тому

      He is not a saint but how he handled COVID was excellent in his 3-4 years you can 1-1.5 year was COVID. Also he opened the cpec corruption which Nawaz Shareef and co did which was leading to inflation. And Abhi Inflation control nhi h logon K pass pasy he Nahi h tou buying Ni h islye import Ni h is wjah sy rupee cap h 275 py 2 years m rupee 150-325sy 275 py qi lekin Abhi bhi logon ko job ph 20000-25000 dye jaty jitna tou aik ghr m ac na Chaly utna bill a Jata h and now the corrupts are together so people can't stand them because of there decisions we are in energy crises etc so people are against army against these corrupts which not end now even 3-4 years old is against army

    • @Pal3stin3ix_Lov3
      @Pal3stin3ix_Lov3 2 дні тому +1

      Well Ranjeevrana G You know brainwashing is definitely something, definitely😢😂😢

    • @Rajeevrana-d8w
      @Rajeevrana-d8w 2 дні тому +1

      ​​​@@arminius6506 bro Imran khan ka time ka inflation vs abhi ka inflation dekho, current goverment kafi acha sa handle kar pa rahi h inflation. And inflation mai bs petrol nahi baki cheizn bhi aati hain agar overall dekhoge toh current goverment acha kar rahi h

  • @naveedchoudhry3525
    @naveedchoudhry3525 День тому +1

    Is Niaz a youthia?

  • @msarsaad123
    @msarsaad123 День тому

    stop promoting day trading. irresponsible.

  • @VincentBard-m2k
    @VincentBard-m2k День тому

    Harris Brenda Lopez Amy White Joseph

  • @fuzzy0001
    @fuzzy0001 День тому

    Tum youthiyas mulk say bahar beth ker bas mulk ko badnaam aur propaganda karo

  • @sajeersayed2008
    @sajeersayed2008 День тому +1

    Pak army has a country

  • @Tecnomm133
    @Tecnomm133 День тому

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @WAQAS.N-f5v
    @WAQAS.N-f5v 2 дні тому

    ❤❤❤