🚩 Conquer battlefields of the far future by downloading Warhammer 40k Tacticus from the App Store, Google Play, or Samsung: play.tacticusgame.com/historymarche 🚩 After a string of victories, Charles XII of Sweden decided to take the war to Russia. If successful in reducing Peter the Great's army, the Swedes would likely take Russian cities of Pskov, Novgorod, and possibly Arkhangelsk. Charles XII would also likely gain control over Courland and Polish Livonia, as well as becoming protector of Poland. In return Poland would receive territories lost to the Russian in the latter half of the 17th century.
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A lot of strong simplifications, that is, VERY briefly. In particular, Peter the Great's first loss at Narva occurred due to the fact that there were many regiments of Streltsy in the army, that is, old-style troops. While the regiments of the new European system showed an excellent side, but there were too few of them. And when he retreated, he did not just step back to "fill the wounds", but directly engaged in the speedy reform of the army. And how cute when Menshikov is mentioned, you see, he killed Cossacks and civilians, and Karl apparently distributed buns to everyone? You do realize that in that historical period, the concepts of war were different? Mazeppa and his Cossacks changed their oath to the tsar, to remind them how they dealt with traitors to the crown in Europe? Have the Swedes become observers? Carl Linnaeus, Eva Ekeblad, Daniel Carlsson Solander and many other great Swedes, as well as ordinary Swedes who worked and created the state and its fruits with them, are very surprised. Some people are so fond of beautiful words that they overshadow real events. And yet, I do not know what a UVRAG is, but there is a word овраг - ravine.
Charles XII reminds me of Phyrrus of Epirus. An exceptional General who never knew how to exploit his victories into political gains. His incessant war-monging led to his demise.
As Maharbal would say, "So the Gods don't grant all their gifts to one person. You know very well how to win a victory, Hannibal, but you don't know how to use it.” What a waste of good men and horses by Charles into this unnecessary slaughter at Poltava. Given the many factors HM mentioned during this video, he should have taken Piper's suggestion of taking Saint Petersburg close to Swedish territory and humiliated Peter, given his name was attached to the city after he had acquired it in 1703.
Charles was stubborn like Phyrrus, even though I think Phyrrus was even more stubborn when facing the two greatest powers in the Mediterranean: Carthage and Rome. He lost and went to war with Macedonia and then Spatha and Argos! He really was Alexander's cousin, as he had the same hunger for conquest but lacked patience.
@SolidAvenger1290 to be fair. Hm explained how Hanmibal had a strategic plan to win against Rome. If only he had his 25k reinforcements he would have controlled all of southern Italy.
I'm descendent of a surviving Swedish infantryman at Poltava. He lost several brothers there on the field. He was taken to St. Petersburg to work hard labor building the Peter and Paul fortress. Fortunately for me when he was finally released he was young enough to return home and have a family.
@@NorthSea-xb7jk It has a few sources. The main one being a letter to government explaining circumstances as to why the person could not muster again because of health issues from being captive. Other document substantiate this.
Well done HM. Charlie 12 has always fascinated me. This and Narva round out his story well. Although some of his Polish stuff would be nice too. May this comment be a sacrifice to the Algorithm. Cheers from Tennessee
On June 1709, at the Battle of Poltava, Peter the Great's strategic defenses and growing Russian resilience thwarted Charles XII's risky attack, marking a turning point in the Great Northern War. This decisive victory ended Sweden's dominance and ushered in Russia's rise as a major power in Eastern Europe.
The turning point occurred before Poltava. Sadly, Charles XII had been defeated strategically much earlier. His great debacles and unfortunates began in 1708, when he cut off the connection with Lewenhaupt's supply column.
18:39 шведы не знали о существовании 4 редутов (вертикали "Т") решение об их строительстве было принято накануне битвы поэтому наличие этих редутов стало неприятным сюрпризом для Карла, но с другой стороны эти редуты не успели построить полностью... Поэтому первые 2 редута взяли достаточно легко, а вот третий редут находился в радиусе досягаемости огня артиллерии из редутов горизонтали " Т" и защитников поддерживал огонь пушек остальных редутов Автор, историческая неточность: шведам удалось взять только 2 первых редута, остальные устояли... Шведы сумели их обойти по флангам и в промежутке между укреплениями, понеся значительные потери, но взять их не удалось
бесполезно.... на западе не нужны факты истории, у них сказки и бредни вместо истории. Что этот ролик что в целом все остальные связанные с историей практически все до единого либо полностью либо на 90% лживы и не совпадают с реальной историей, порой их выдуманная лживая история настолько нелепая и не логичная что поражаешься тyпoсти западных обывателей верящих в эти их бредни. Лично я давно уже заметил что пропаганда и лживая история запада рассчитана исключительно на дayнов, и увы на западе легко находит тех кто эти бредни жpёт, впрочем у нас тоже не мало таких, пусть и меньше, но тоже не мало и с каждым годом всё больше приближаясь до уровня запада по уровню дeбeлизмa. Опять же, тут в ролике вообще полный бред и выдумки выcacаные из пальца, начиная от расположений "ставок" заканчивая движением полков, про кол-во уж молчу, типично западное "орды русских всех победили только числом" по этому квадратиков Петра 1 нарисовали раз так в 5 больше чем было, достаточно иметь хотябы чуть чуть мозгов чтоб догадаться что в те времена никаких манёвров и тем более активных наступлений в боевых порядках по лесам тем более ещё и через речушку быть не могло в принципе, а тут на видео все полки по лесу и рекам ходят как по плацу... *рукалицо*
@@freethinker8603 you are the best illustration to Danning-Kruger effect. You are a fool who considers smart people to be fools because they don’t share your foolish opinion.
Russian armies blocked their way 20,000 lost that day They bled the ground Peace they found Theres no sign of victory, King Carolus had to flee Leave the land Leave command
@@johntitor_ibm5100 Genom rök och damm de red Slogs för livet led om led Tappra män till himlen steg Poltava! It may be bias as I'm Swedish, but I believe that the lyrics in Swedish are so much more impactful. This is true for the whole album. "En livstid i krig", instead of just describing the 30 years war in the abstract, it describes the life of a individual soldier.
@@Zakariya3603 true. Once Napoleon had entered the stage a century later, the Swedes didn't want to be fully dragged into conflicts that didn't meet the limited manpower they could possess. Finland & Pomerania were their last holdouts from their decades of war. They wanted to preserve whatever territory they had left, given how Charles XII put them in a massive hole after Poltava. (similar to how Justinian later screwed the Byzantine Empire) However, they used diplomacy with the Coalition to at least keep France's ambitions at bay until 1805, when they saw that Napoleon gave Hanover to the British, which pissed off the Prussians. With the French inching closer to Pomerania, they had no choice but to declare war. The Swedes still posed as a very strong force despite their smaller numbers, but the French succeeded by defeating Prussia in the South at Jena and Auerstedt. They managed to get their revenge in 1814 at Leipzig under their new king, Bernadotte. Like Poland, Sweden still remains an unknown yet very influential country that can bring back the glorious military record it once had before Poltava, especially when it recently joined NATO..
Yet like the kings of old...out of his own depth given the logistical situation and missed opportunity to humiliate Peter by closely following what Piper suggested. His balance of geopolitical politics and military science faltered into his advance of Somlmensk
@@david-468 Thing is that the swedish was probably one of the best countries in the world during that time to document simple facts, like exact timestamps when specific events happened or an estimate of how many died (specifically swedish casualties ofc). They took their military accounting VERY seriously, which makes the swedish pov quite a reliable source when it comes to getting a clearer picture of how the battle went, specifically from how the swedes wrote down the movements and orders of the swedish army ofc.
In 1708 and 1709 the plague desolated Sweden Livonia. In 1710 the disease appeared in Sweden; 30,000 persona perished by it in Stockholm, and other parts of the kingdom did not escape. Historians relate, that in the latter part of the last century and beginning of the present, the sweating sickness and great plague in Sweden destroyed several hundred thousand lives, in consequence of which Sweden is less populous than formerly
@@magos2610 мог бы и посмешнее пошутить, не то совсем тухло. Хотя в Швеции донос это нормальная тема, ах да бедолага там это называют быть бдительным членом общества 🤣
И перед синими рядами Своих воинственных дружин, Несомый верными слугами, В качалке, бледен, недвижим, Страдая раной, Карл явился. Вожди героя шли за ним. Он в думу тихо погрузился. Смущенный взор изобразил Необычайное волненье. Казалось, Карла приводил Желанный бой в недоуменье… Вдруг слабым манием руки На русских двинул он полки И с ними царские дружины Сошлись в дыму среди равнины: И грянул бой, Полтавской бой!
Редут (франц. redoute, от лат. reductus - удаленный, укрытие) - отдельно стоящее фортификационное сооружение закрытого типа, обычно (но не обязательно) земляное, с валом и рвом, предназначенное для круговой обороны от противника (противника).
14:00 There were less than 10 thousand Cossacks and civilians in Baturin (citadel was small), how could Menshikov kill 15 thousand? Archaeological research has been carried out in the city many times and in total just few hundred victims of the massacre have been found.
BEST history channel out there history marche! Good video, really like these 1700 hundreds videos would be cool if you could cover Gustav 3s Russian war 1788-1790 and maybe especially the naval battle “second battle of svensksund” biggest naval battle ever fought in terms of naval vessels participating, and it turned out in a decisive Swedish victory 🤩 🇸🇪
The Battle of Svensksund would be quite epic indeed, with the Swedish archipelago fleet being pretty much backed into a corner by their pursuers after initially escaping the encirclement at the Viborg Bay 1790. The Swedish king decided on a major gamble and made his final stand-to win or die.
Yeah I remember this battle from grade school. 😥 We were 9 or 10 years old and was learning about Swedish history and more recently about the "Stormaktstiden". All the boys became dead silent when the teacher told us that Charles were defeated. Some of the girls started crying uncontrollably. My best friend a the time, Erik, suddenly stood up, yelled "För helvete!" and threw is books into the floor and stormed out the class room. We didn't see him again until Monday the following week.
I can't help but notice that in every other video about any other historical battles, the comment section is really cool, lots of people just happy to 'experience' a little piece of military history. In every video where the topic involves Russia however, it's, well, different.
7:45 Such a move could also leave Poland and its new pro-Swedish king Stanislaus I exposed to Russian attacks and result in Saxony and Denmark re-entering the war, which would put Charles XII back to square one; Stanislaus I's Poland, albeit not yet strong at this time, was supposed to play a part in the invasion of Russia. Before Charles XII abandoned his march towards Moscow for Ukraine in late September 1708, which left Lewenhaupt's army unprotected and eventually led to cut lines of communication with Poland, the campaign had actually gone quite well for him. However, after that, misfortunes struck Charles XII one after another. What many people don't realize is that the campaign had, more or less, already failed even before Poltava; most likely, Charles XII sought battle on that fatal day to beat the Russians, so that he would be able to retreat unmolested into Poland-perhaps he had foreseen a situation similar to that of Napoleon a hundred years later-and there regroup with Krassow's and Stanislaus I's armies before attempting a new invasion. This would most likely also check the Danes and Saxons who had, even before Poltava, begun planning a re-intervention with Charles XII being so far into enemy territory.
if you study history using ridiculous and deceitful history textbooks and Western propaganda... then you can draw the same conclusions as you, but you are mistaken because you are based on lies. If you want to know the truth, throw away the history textbooks invented in the West, throw away all the Western media. Nowhere in the world are there as many lies as in Western countries (Europe and North America) . As for history and truth, the Swedish king went south because he was promised mountains of gold and tens of thousands of armies in alliance with Sweden, first Mezape (the governor of Western Ukraine who betrayed Moscow), later the Turks (Ottoman Empire) promised him. In fact, when the Swedes came for what they had promised, - Mezape, who betrayed Moscow, found himself practically alone since his own people did not support him, and the military strength of those who came to the Swedes was negligible. - The Ottoman Empire, having promised to start a war against Russia, actually did nothing because it was not ready, in addition, the Russians were already ready for war with the Ottoman Empire. Most likely, the Swedes are accustomed to the fact that in Europe, from the mere presence of the Swedish army, entire countries enter into alliances and declare war (Denmark, etc.), immediately coming to Russia and the south - no one cared and no one considered it to be any weighty argument, conceit and ignorance of the truth destroyed the Swedes, however, the West never learned lessons from this and always lived in conceit and ignorance of the truth. Ultimately, the king of Sweden fled cowardly to the Turks.
@@aksh2161 уверен? мой комментарий удалили по политическим мотивом твои власти, так что вся история которую ты знаешь так же является лживой, а любая правда как мой комментарий твои власти удаляют. sure? my comment was deleted for political reasons by your authorities, so the whole story that you know is also false, and any truth like my comment is deleted by your authorities.
Hope you can do more battles from the great northern war like Fraustadt and battles that take place after Poltava. Really loving these videos and hope you dig into and make videos on more Swedish comforts that are relatively unknown such as Russo Swedish war with Gustav III and the Finnish war which resulted in us losing Finland to Russia. I’ve heard from many historians here that we actually could have won that war but we had many incompetent military leaders in command which hurt our chances badly. Regards from Sweden.
@@HistoryMarche Gustav III was a fool that did get involved with a war with Russia, but the Swedish army (yes the Swedish army) smashed the Russian fleet with rowing boats, one of the great, but one of the most unknown sea victory in history, and the war become a draw. It was his son Gustav IV that did lose Finland to Russia.
@@JDDC-tq7qm 6000 men against less than a thousand Swedes great victory bro. This was also well past our days of having a mighty military there was no way we would win the Finnish war. The results aren’t that surprising. The fact that we even reached great power status at all is a miracle.
В войне с Россией ,в долгую, у Швеции не было шансов. Не сопоставимы были ресурсы. Людские, производство ядер, пушек, снаряжения. После поражения под Нарвой, Пётр 1 восстановил боеспособность своей армии буквально за несколько лет. Не просто восстановил, а сделал её сильнее.
I think the Mongol invasion of the 12th-14th centuries gave the first impetus to this. Both China and Russia were a group of territories forever fighting each other over small pieces of land, not paying much attention to what was happening outside the lands they knew. Only when a huge empire came, under which almost everyone fell, and then, after 2.5 centuries, were liberated, tendencies towards unification and conquest of their neighbors gradually began to take shape in Russia and China. It seems to me that that historical period greatly influenced both countries. And the Northern War only determined which of the two empires, Russian or Swedish, would survive and continue to develop.
@@Plutarh1917 No you are not right. At that time you were not very different from people today. The Swedes were just as arrogant and stupid. Russia has humiliated you and continues to do so to this day, but you are not getting smarter, you all dream of defeating Russia.
Russians always seem weak at first. But as you keep fighting them, they keep fighting without giving up and in time they are the ones who come out victorious and the attackers devastated
"Time has worn the soldiers down Marched for many miles In the eastern lands so cursed Time to make a stand Tsar has scorched his nation’s land Nothing to be found Hunger grasps the soldiers’ heart 20 000 strong Listen, excuse for a king Trust me, this fight you can’t win Poltava Rode to certain death and pain Poltava Swedish soldiers met their bane Poltava Sacrificed their lives in vain Poltava In the shade of morning mist Advancing on their foe Bullets break the silent air Wasted battleplan Swedish forces stand alone King has left command Rule is left to lesser men Waiting for their chance Listen, obey my command Hear me, or die by my hand Russian armies blocked their way 20 000 lost that day They bled the ground Peace they found There’s no sign of victory King Carolus had to flee And leave the land Leave command Madness, curse your feeble horde Fear me or you’ll die by my sword"
Alexander Dmitrievich Balashov, was sent as a representative in some official capacity, i cant remember exactly which, of Tsar Alexander I to Napoleon, who was studying a map of Russia at the time, prior to his invasion. In reply to Napoleon's question- "What is the best road to Moscow?", Bolashov replied- "The roads to Moscow are many. The one chosen by Charles XII went through Poltava".
Great video, thank you. Since you are doing Sweedish battles, may I suggest battles of Rochensalm or Svenksund, as it is called in Sweedish history? These are naval battles.
The sad thing is that this whole debacle from Sweden could've been easily avoided had Charles XII been a better politician and statesman. He loved war and battle a little too much and never really took the fragility of the Swedish Empire into consideration.
@@kirgan1000The alliance aready sue for peace, hell even before and after poltava and Charles back from Ottoman exile, all in the alliance are already try to send a several peace offer too Charles. Yet the guy turn all of them down and decide to attack Norway costing his life. If a leader never knew when they have to make a peace for the betterment of people and not his ego, are you considering it he is a peaceful Ruler?.
To be honest, the fall of the swedish empire was probably inevitable, only a matter of time since manpower and resources was starting to play a greater role than before. Charles hastened the decline, but also made sure they went out with a bang.
@@gregrenox9644 What was the peace? Hand over part/whole Swedish Balticum. Decide to attack Norway, I know the winner are writing the history, but come on, Denmark-Norway did declare war on Sweden. "a leader never knew when they have to make a peace for the betterment of people" Do you judge Peter on the same scale? That guy did start the war, that lasted 21 year....
Досмотрел только до 18 минуты, чушь какая-то. Шведы хотели захватить Москву, но в битве при Полтаве у них не было ни войск, ни орудий, ни пороха, ни снарядов, как они хотели дойти до Москвы, по-моему это неумелое оправдание проигрыша сильнейшей армии Европы того времени перед рисским Великим царем. Дополнение: вырезка из Википедии "план короля, предусматривающий скрытный подход и неожиданную атаку русского лагеря, исключал использование тяжёлой артиллерии, именно поэтому шведская артиллерия практически не использовалась в битве". Просто тактика была такая, которая оказалась проигрышной.
So Wikipedia says the same as this video. The plan was to catch the Russians by surprise and they couldn't transport most of their artillary. It was a losing tactic but also exactly the story told by this video. So I don't understand why you call it nonsense. Maybe you switched off before those details were discussed?
My ancestor, Kristoph Cherniak, was there, fighting along side the Swedes, at the right hand of Ivan Mazepa. Thank you for animating and narrating this battle! A piece of my family's history! Love this and love "Poltava" by Sabaton too! (I had written Par in the past before they made the song and told him of the battle and my family being there, who knows, maybe it was an influence! 😅)
The main thing is that they did not forget to say about the "destroyed civilians by Menshikov" and about how Charles (the conqueror) was supported by "local residents")))). That's how propaganda works.
Reminds me of Generals Lee and Grant. Lee was a great battlefield commander, and could adapt really well on the field. Grant, wouldn't be able to adapt as easily on the battlefield, but was a genius at planning the moves long-term. Tactical mastermind vs Strategic genius.
This channel is amazing. My only wish is a way to see the troops as they would have been armed and armored to make the flags and maneuvers be a bit more understandable. Just a picture of the types and how they would have been decked out for a battle. I know other channels do different versions. Some focus on that, but not the other parts. Sorry, tired. Brain spent.
It still so painful for swedes to look at because of the mistakes at the battle of Poltava.. But after 1720 when the loss was confirmed with a peace-treaty, the liberty age afterward was called Frihetstiden. A restaurang opened that is still open today in the Old City, Gyldene Freden or The Golden Peace...
@@Какой-тоКактус It was the De la Gardieska fälttåget, then Sweden did support one of the Russian throne pretender, there was loots of allied Russian troops to help out. Think Poland did the same in support with there throne pretender.
If only Charles XII knew when to stop fighting and consolidated his gains sweden would be a lot different now. Sometimes the pen is mightier than the sword indeed. Carolus rex still cool though 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
It's hard to know how serious Peter I was with his peace offers right after Narva, as they could've been attempts to stall Charles XII's presumed Russian invasion in 1700 or 1701. Later, before Charles XII's invasion in 1708, Peter I offered peace but only on the condition that he could keep Saint Petersburg; albeit a small stain on a map, such a peace could bring dire consequences in the future as it would give Russia access to the Baltic Sea, of which Sweden relied heavily on to protect its Baltic and German dominions-and the Swedes already struggled with the equally strong Danish navy.
They won because of the immense personal interest of Peter not his country’s interest. He is so much interested for that port, he even modernized his army and supplied all the funds to his allies. And yet he shared the spoils with his allies. He is actual winner and deserve all the spoil but he understood that he can’t win alone with Charles XII and share the spoils with allies . If CharlesXII can negotiate and give him port then Sweden would be a regional power till now. Because of Charles XII underestimated the Peter abilities that cost him dearly. After charles XII no one has that will to fight a losing war( from Sweden). It is Peter’s personal ego that is the starting point for Russia to become a Powerhouse.
Не было желания больше воевать? Чел😅. Шведы ещё не раз пытались взять реванш, просто с тех пор они перестали быть той огромной силой и русские громили их в салат
It seems that Charles was a victim of his own success. Having defeated a more numerous Russian force at Narva he assumed that his soldiers were so great, that they could keep routing the Russians in every engagement. His soldiers were indeed great, but not great enough.
And Malo-Rus is a Greek term used in the same context as Asia Minor for example. It's a geographical term. Better would be just to use historical regional names like Zaporozhia, Galicia, Volhynia and so on.
Charles XII called Russia "Giant with feet of clay" as you can see he badly underestimated Russians, the same did Napolen and Hitler in 1812 and 1941. and the same happens now
come on dude, in the time of Charles XII there was no clay nor such definition. Actually the best thing king of Sweden could do - establish a furniture manufacture.
@@DarrelX-im2hb the definition comes from the bible, so, even if i can't deny that there isn't evidence of him saying this, it is fully possible Also what the hell do you mean no clay.
Charles went from being arguably the best Swedish leader ( along with Gustavus Alphonsus) to basically ending forever any Swedish empire aspirations ( Sweden would never again play a major role in the area) and getting shot by his own men. A very prominent example of how fortune can change so rapidly.
Propaganda and a very tendential selection of facts. The author says how the Russians massacres the population of Baturin, but did not say a word, how sweden killed 4,000 captured Russian soldiers in the battle of Fraushtadt
First off, this is a video about the Swedish invasion of Russia and the battle of Poltava, why would they go through such detailed information about Fraustadt? Secondly, what you're saying is Russian propaganda; Sweden executed a few hundred captured Russians at Fraustadt (that's true), but the several thousands you're speaking off were cut down during the pursuit - which was perfectly normal in battles during this time.
Nooooooooooo ! This should have continued with the Battle of Prut ! That "Great" Peter had begged for his life and entire army when Ottoman's encircled him.
@@JDDC-tq7qm Yeah, but he was there only around 1714 in the last years of operations there. Doesn't help that he couldn't rely on any substantial relief army. The one attempt was defeated at Stressow.
Seeing the odds against the Charles, it’s no wonder they lost. Even with an elite army they were heavily outnumbered. It wasn’t even a close battle. It’s more shocking that Charles tried to fight Peter in such conditions.
@@HistoryMarche Charles XII was a unrivaled tactical master of the battlefield, but lack the strategic thinking, so his battles are worth studying. Not that Charles was shoot and did louse the ability to command during the battle of Poltava. It is Charles fault that there was no strong recognized number 2 or command staff to take over.
What's crazy is Peter offered Charles a really generous peace: he gave back everything except st Petersburg. Charles rejected it, and went to his doom. Ultimately, in the end Sweden was lucky peter let them keep Finland and even Sweden itself
nod, Charles refused several chances to resolve this but he chose more violence every time. Peter offered to buy the land for St. Petersburg at the very beginning but Charles chose the option of war. I think he was looking to be remembered among the great generals in history.
The Russians probably could never have held Sweden in any case. Finland, perhaps, but Sweden proper? Hardly. And other nations would never have allowed it.
I think you guys underestimate the strategic importance of Saint Petersburg; it would give the Russians access to the Baltic Sea, something which was completely unacceptable to the Swedes seeing as their whole empire depended on it. And they already had the Danish navy to worry about.
Was that a generous peace? I did attack you with my allies, you smash my army, and beat up my allies, so to have peace, you have to creed land to me, that will totally undermine, the last 100 year of Swedish war to monopolize the Baltic trade. No Peter wouldn't be able to take Sweden, the balance of power must remain, great power would have interfered, or semi large power like the Dutch. Who did have a tradition to interfere then one power in the Baltic become to successful.
I don't think Peter gets the credit for how well he handled the war with Sweden after getting some experience as a commander. His strategy at Poltava was brilliant.
HAHAAH Peter did nothing but run away like a coward, then blamed his generals when they lost, when his generals won Peter took credit, Peter the great coward.
Сражение под Нарвой было не просто катастрофой. Именно поражение в этой битае заставило Царя полностью изменить армию. Карл расчитывал встретится с армией, которую разбили под Нарвой. Но к моменту Полтавы это была уже совершенно другая армия с другой дисциплиной, моралью и опытом. Под Нарвой была рождена Русская Гвардия. Под Полтавой Русская Гвардия показала все то, чему она научилась у шведов. Не забывайте, что в России Петр известен как реформатор, он выдернул страну из средневековья и резким скачком перестроил ее в европейскую державу. И одной из причин этого резкого толчка - Северная Война.
@@alexanderwhiteley3054 на поле боя есть победа или поражение, а такие аргументы как "чуть" полная лажа, тем более в условиях войны, когда самая лучшая армия на тот период времени столкнулась с армией, которая только недавно строем ходить научилась и то не вся.
@@kokorogaro5133 На поле боя численно уступающая шведская армия вела наступление. В данной ситуации никаким гением быть не нужно, чтобы одолеть скандинавов. И то, царю пришлось поднапрячься. Собственно, Пётр и не был никаким гением. Завистник, самодур, лжец.
@@alexanderwhiteley3054 как тебя корежит то. Не нравится, что шведы проиграли, да? Ну злись злись, шведы после этого поражения навсегда потеряли свой статус ведущей державы.
@@kokorogaro5133 Да нет, не корёжит. Швеция пошла другим путём, и этот путь оказался прекрасным. Без войн и потрясений. А каролинеры, как ни крути, прекрасные солдаты.
I am Russian, but I respect Karl and the Swedes in this battle. What courage in the face of such superiority! Not only did they rush into battle with a superior enemy, but there was a moment when they almost broke through the Russian formation! Their courage and steadfastness command respect. If they had lost with more troops than the Russians, then we could call it a great victory for Russia, but I do not understand why such a glorious country as Sweden lost the championship to Russia after ONE decisive battle. Indeed, they made a mistake when they went to Moscow, BUT they cannot be called cowards or weaklings! The Swedes command my respect!
@@DarkSideChessThe Mongols invaded at a time where the medieval Rus were already fragmented and regional princes payed lip service to their "ruler" in Kiev. It's why even in battle, they marched against the Mongols with their own separate armies led by their respective princes, instead of being under unified command as a singular army.
@@JDDC-tq7qm So? 11,000 Swedes against 50,000 allies. What was it to do other than play for time, hoping the allies would retreat with the approach of winter.
Charles was also famously a horrible houseguest from hell to the Ottoman empire during his retreat after Battle of Poltava. He stayed there for 5 years and the sultan was patient enough to not kill him. 😂
A case study in when courage becomes foolhardiness. Charles had half a dozen ways to withdraw with his forces intact prior to committing to battle. Attacking prepared positions outnumbered 3 to 1, and even worse in regards to numbers of cannons? This was neigh-suicidal.
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🚩 After a string of victories, Charles XII of Sweden decided to take the war to Russia. If successful in reducing Peter the Great's army, the Swedes would likely take Russian cities of Pskov, Novgorod, and possibly Arkhangelsk. Charles XII would also likely gain control over Courland and Polish Livonia, as well as becoming protector of Poland. In return Poland would receive territories lost to the Russian in the latter half of the 17th century.
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2 minutes of ad, geez... And always for those vomitive P2W games looking for their new addicts... How can you support such awful business? The end always justifies the means, right? Pathetic. Unsubbed.
A lot of strong simplifications, that is, VERY briefly. In particular, Peter the Great's first loss at Narva occurred due to the fact that there were many regiments of Streltsy in the army, that is, old-style troops. While the regiments of the new European system showed an excellent side, but there were too few of them. And when he retreated, he did not just step back to "fill the wounds", but directly engaged in the speedy reform of the army.
And how cute when Menshikov is mentioned, you see, he killed Cossacks and civilians, and Karl apparently distributed buns to everyone? You do realize that in that historical period, the concepts of war were different?
Mazeppa and his Cossacks changed their oath to the tsar, to remind them how they dealt with traitors to the crown in Europe?
Have the Swedes become observers? Carl Linnaeus, Eva Ekeblad, Daniel Carlsson Solander and many other great Swedes, as well as ordinary Swedes who worked and created the state and its fruits with them, are very surprised. Some people are so fond of beautiful words that they overshadow real events.
And yet, I do not know what a UVRAG is, but there is a word овраг - ravine.
Can you please make one day such a video of the battle of Rschew.
It is not the usual time period. But it is maybe the hardest Battle in history...
Charles XII reminds me of Phyrrus of Epirus. An exceptional General who never knew how to exploit his victories into political gains. His incessant war-monging led to his demise.
As Maharbal would say, "So the Gods don't grant all their gifts to one person. You know very well how to win a victory, Hannibal, but you don't know how to use it.” What a waste of good men and horses by Charles into this unnecessary slaughter at Poltava. Given the many factors HM mentioned during this video, he should have taken Piper's suggestion of taking Saint Petersburg close to Swedish territory and humiliated Peter, given his name was attached to the city after he had acquired it in 1703.
Charles was stubborn like Phyrrus, even though I think Phyrrus was even more stubborn when facing the two greatest powers in the Mediterranean: Carthage and Rome.
He lost and went to war with Macedonia and then Spatha and Argos! He really was Alexander's cousin, as he had the same hunger for conquest but lacked patience.
@SolidAvenger1290 to be fair. Hm explained how Hanmibal had a strategic plan to win against Rome.
If only he had his 25k reinforcements he would have controlled all of southern Italy.
Charles XII was a mediocre diplomat, but you cant call him a war monger, he never started a war.
He also lacked siege equipment or supplies to move on Rome
I'm descendent of a surviving Swedish infantryman at Poltava. He lost several brothers there on the field. He was taken to St. Petersburg to work hard labor building the Peter and Paul fortress. Fortunately for me when he was finally released he was young enough to return home and have a family.
He built some beautiful buildings
how you know that story ?? 300 yrs have gone
@@NorthSea-xb7jk It has a few sources. The main one being a letter to government explaining circumstances as to why the person could not muster again because of health issues from being captive. Other document substantiate this.
6:26 Charles XII's invasion of Saxony was so sneaky we didn't even get to see it.
It was the cunning Swedish tactic of using really, *really* long bayonets.
They also made use of their flux capacitor to timetravel to estonia and ukraine. Really really sneaky
Yes, no one even know Ukraine existed yet
yeah, video made it look like Saxony surrendered for no reason
@@lugerun Estonia as term may not existed at time, but Ukraine was, and for centuries already.
Well done HM. Charlie 12 has always fascinated me. This and Narva round out his story well. Although some of his Polish stuff would be nice too. May this comment be a sacrifice to the Algorithm. Cheers from Tennessee
Cheers man, thank you. I will cover more of his battles for sure.
@@HistoryMarcheLOVE YOUR CONTENT 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤
"Charlie 12" lmfaoooo
On June 1709, at the Battle of Poltava, Peter the Great's strategic defenses and growing Russian resilience thwarted Charles XII's risky attack, marking a turning point in the Great Northern War. This decisive victory ended Sweden's dominance and ushered in Russia's rise as a major power in Eastern Europe.
The turning point occurred before Poltava. Sadly, Charles XII had been defeated strategically much earlier. His great debacles and unfortunates began in 1708, when he cut off the connection with Lewenhaupt's supply column.
18:39 шведы не знали о существовании 4 редутов (вертикали "Т") решение об их строительстве было принято накануне битвы поэтому наличие этих редутов стало неприятным сюрпризом для Карла, но с другой стороны эти редуты не успели построить полностью... Поэтому первые 2 редута взяли достаточно легко, а вот третий редут находился в радиусе досягаемости огня артиллерии из редутов горизонтали " Т" и защитников поддерживал огонь пушек остальных редутов
Автор, историческая неточность: шведам удалось взять только 2 первых редута, остальные устояли... Шведы сумели их обойти по флангам и в промежутке между укреплениями, понеся значительные потери, но взять их не удалось
бесполезно.... на западе не нужны факты истории, у них сказки и бредни вместо истории. Что этот ролик что в целом все остальные связанные с историей практически все до единого либо полностью либо на 90% лживы и не совпадают с реальной историей, порой их выдуманная лживая история настолько нелепая и не логичная что поражаешься тyпoсти западных обывателей верящих в эти их бредни. Лично я давно уже заметил что пропаганда и лживая история запада рассчитана исключительно на дayнов, и увы на западе легко находит тех кто эти бредни жpёт, впрочем у нас тоже не мало таких, пусть и меньше, но тоже не мало и с каждым годом всё больше приближаясь до уровня запада по уровню дeбeлизмa. Опять же, тут в ролике вообще полный бред и выдумки выcacаные из пальца, начиная от расположений "ставок" заканчивая движением полков, про кол-во уж молчу, типично западное "орды русских всех победили только числом" по этому квадратиков Петра 1 нарисовали раз так в 5 больше чем было, достаточно иметь хотябы чуть чуть мозгов чтоб догадаться что в те времена никаких манёвров и тем более активных наступлений в боевых порядках по лесам тем более ещё и через речушку быть не могло в принципе, а тут на видео все полки по лесу и рекам ходят как по плацу... *рукалицо*
@@Ek_Ekvil you sound like the russian firehose of falsehoods
@@freethinker8603you display a shocking inability to grasp basic concepts.
@ErmakBrovar the moon is made of cheese and yesterday is tuesday in the evening on friday
@@freethinker8603 you are the best illustration to Danning-Kruger effect. You are a fool who considers smart people to be fools because they don’t share your foolish opinion.
I love History March videos, great quality and excellent narration.
Quality of what? Look at the simple things.. They put down Russian Empire on the map in 1709. I cant stop laughing
This makes me think of Sabaton's song "Poltava" about the battle and how ruinous it was for the Swedish Empire.
Rode to certain death and pain,
Swedish soldiers met their bane,
sacrificed their lives in vain -
Poltava!
Russian armies blocked their way
20,000 lost that day
They bled the ground
Peace they found
Theres no sign of victory, King Carolus had to flee
Leave the land
Leave command
@@johntitor_ibm5100
Genom rök och damm de red
Slogs för livet led om led
Tappra män till himlen steg
Poltava!
It may be bias as I'm Swedish, but I believe that the lyrics in Swedish are so much more impactful. This is true for the whole album. "En livstid i krig", instead of just describing the 30 years war in the abstract, it describes the life of a individual soldier.
Moral of the story. Never fight with anyone named "the great".
But he wasn't the great that moment yet.
@@sergeyn87 it's a joke.
@@chroniccles internet is an serious business
It worked for Caesar
Unless said man's name is Antiochus """"""the Great""""""
As a swede it’s really nice to see these great wars and battles finally get covered as they are very important but not talked about that much.
It’s because most of what’s known by you in Sweden is propaganda
Sweden has the most impressive military record of the Northern states until the 1800's.
@@Zakariya3603 true. Once Napoleon had entered the stage a century later, the Swedes didn't want to be fully dragged into conflicts that didn't meet the limited manpower they could possess. Finland & Pomerania were their last holdouts from their decades of war. They wanted to preserve whatever territory they had left, given how Charles XII put them in a massive hole after Poltava. (similar to how Justinian later screwed the Byzantine Empire)
However, they used diplomacy with the Coalition to at least keep France's ambitions at bay until 1805, when they saw that Napoleon gave Hanover to the British, which pissed off the Prussians. With the French inching closer to Pomerania, they had no choice but to declare war.
The Swedes still posed as a very strong force despite their smaller numbers, but the French succeeded by defeating Prussia in the South at Jena and Auerstedt. They managed to get their revenge in 1814 at Leipzig under their new king, Bernadotte. Like Poland, Sweden still remains an unknown yet very influential country that can bring back the glorious military record it once had before Poltava, especially when it recently joined NATO..
Lol Sweden is nothing compare to Russia Sweden lost it's power because of Russia 😂😂@@SolidAvenger1290
This has never been forgotten in Russia.)
That day was Crazy dude... Charles XII was so determined
Yet like the kings of old...out of his own depth given the logistical situation and missed opportunity to humiliate Peter by closely following what Piper suggested. His balance of geopolitical politics and military science faltered into his advance of Somlmensk
Just remember we’re hearing charles side of the story , not the unbiased truth of what happened
@@david-468
What?😂 The only thing biased is your own comment.
@@vencislavgynev8282 sure whatever , difference being I would admit to my bias not state them as fact
@@david-468 Thing is that the swedish was probably one of the best countries in the world during that time to document simple facts, like exact timestamps when specific events happened or an estimate of how many died (specifically swedish casualties ofc).
They took their military accounting VERY seriously, which makes the swedish pov quite a reliable source when it comes to getting a clearer picture of how the battle went, specifically from how the swedes wrote down the movements and orders of the swedish army ofc.
20:17 first two redoubt was not yet complete when Swedish forces attacked, that's why they heard sounds of working builders at night
When Historymarche posts a new video, I click. My favorite part of the week!
This channel deserves well over one million subscribers. One of the best history channels on yt.
In 1708 and 1709 the plague desolated Sweden Livonia. In 1710 the disease appeared in Sweden; 30,000 persona perished by it in Stockholm, and other parts of the kingdom did not escape. Historians relate, that in the latter part of the last century and beginning of the present, the sweating sickness and great plague in Sweden destroyed several hundred thousand lives, in consequence of which Sweden is less populous than formerly
It was actually covid-19 but it was not discovered yet 😁😁😁
This is propaganda about the war they aren’t gonna mention plagues especially if it’s swedens perspective which this is
@@ComboMusterCovid-09😂😂
Great video as usual! Would love to see more Great Northern War or Spanish Succession videos, maybe Kliszow or Ramillies?
I'll definitely do more GNW battles.
Вы заметили? Когда шведы захватывают крепость - это освобождение, а когда русские его возвращают - это оккупация. Игра слов и никакой лжи.
А вам можно смотреть вражеские документалки?
@@magos2610чисто из спортивного интереса валера, поглядеть наксколько сильно исказят историю.
@@Dufi8787 а каждой стороны своя версия, поэтому это нормально. Впредь не смотри вражеский контент, а то донесут
@@magos2610 мог бы и посмешнее пошутить, не то совсем тухло. Хотя в Швеции донос это нормальная тема, ах да бедолага там это называют быть бдительным членом общества 🤣
@@Dufi8787 ирония в том что ты во вражеском софте
Hey HM! I hope you never lose drive when creating content for this channel! You are my FAVORITE UA-camr!
9:14 This is the most badass quote imaginable
Seems like comment showing unusual modesty to me. Basically, yeah this dude has shown flair, but I’m not going to let him wipe the floor with me.
Peter The Great is a savage 😎😂
Peter the Great in general. That's why he's called "the Great".
Peter the coward who ran from every battle. xD
@@phixter lol Peter The Great who made Swedish Empire collapse cope 😂
И перед синими рядами
Своих воинственных дружин,
Несомый верными слугами,
В качалке, бледен, недвижим,
Страдая раной, Карл явился.
Вожди героя шли за ним.
Он в думу тихо погрузился.
Смущенный взор изобразил
Необычайное волненье.
Казалось, Карла приводил
Желанный бой в недоуменье…
Вдруг слабым манием руки
На русских двинул он полки
И с ними царские дружины
Сошлись в дыму среди равнины:
И грянул бой, Полтавской бой!
Another excellent video! This channel continues to feed my passion and interest for history. Looking forward to more!
Thank you. Love the content. Love the quotes included in all your videos. Great productions everythime.
I dont know what a redout is, but the third redout what a legend!
Редут (франц. redoute, от лат. reductus - удаленный, укрытие) - отдельно стоящее фортификационное сооружение закрытого типа, обычно (но не обязательно) земляное, с валом и рвом, предназначенное для круговой обороны от противника (противника).
Another great video! love these Great Northern War videos!
14:00 There were less than 10 thousand Cossacks and civilians in Baturin (citadel was small), how could Menshikov kill 15 thousand? Archaeological research has been carried out in the city many times and in total just few hundred victims of the massacre have been found.
Son, when you grow up, you will learn the difference between facts and… THE TRUTH, ha-ha!
@@2005batman2005
@@ТАДАМ-ю4жviu shi v 256?
A guy with a Stalin pfp downplaying Russian war crimes? Color me surprised.
@@JustAsPlanned1 war crimes bro you saying like it was chivalry times and everyone were honorable
BEST history channel out there history marche! Good video, really like these 1700 hundreds videos would be cool if you could cover Gustav 3s Russian war 1788-1790 and maybe especially the naval battle “second battle of svensksund” biggest naval battle ever fought in terms of naval vessels participating, and it turned out in a decisive Swedish victory 🤩 🇸🇪
The Battle of Svensksund would be quite epic indeed, with the Swedish archipelago fleet being pretty much backed into a corner by their pursuers after initially escaping the encirclement at the Viborg Bay 1790. The Swedish king decided on a major gamble and made his final stand-to win or die.
I second this I really hope he covers that war and more Russo Swedish wars overall. There is a lot of content you can use in them.
Let's also see the the Battle on the Ice in which Sweden, Norway and Finns got defeated by the Russian Prince Alexander Nevsky Uraaa🇷🇺💪
@@JDDC-tq7qm bro, it was battle on Neva river in 1240. In Battle of the Ice Alexander fought with Livonian knights.
@@Dreadnoutn yes sorry my bad thanks for your correction 👍
Huge fan of these videos and I enjoyed this one all the way to the end! Can’t wait to see more Charles the 12 vids!
Oh fatal ambition! Charles overconfidence is unbelievable.
Yeah I remember this battle from grade school. 😥
We were 9 or 10 years old and was learning about Swedish history and more recently about the "Stormaktstiden".
All the boys became dead silent when the teacher told us that Charles were defeated. Some of the girls started crying uncontrollably.
My best friend a the time, Erik, suddenly stood up, yelled "För helvete!" and threw is books into the floor and stormed out the class room. We didn't see him again until Monday the following week.
Viva la russia😂😂
Jesus...
😄
What a tragedy! Shakespeare!)))))
I saw this boy. He still runs around Sweden and shouts: “"För helvete!"”...
I can't help but notice that in every other video about any other historical battles, the comment section is really cool, lots of people just happy to 'experience' a little piece of military history. In every video where the topic involves Russia however, it's, well, different.
YAY! welcome back man! Love your content 😊😊😊❤❤❤
Amazing story, as always in this wonderful channel.
7:45 Such a move could also leave Poland and its new pro-Swedish king Stanislaus I exposed to Russian attacks and result in Saxony and Denmark re-entering the war, which would put Charles XII back to square one; Stanislaus I's Poland, albeit not yet strong at this time, was supposed to play a part in the invasion of Russia.
Before Charles XII abandoned his march towards Moscow for Ukraine in late September 1708, which left Lewenhaupt's army unprotected and eventually led to cut lines of communication with Poland, the campaign had actually gone quite well for him. However, after that, misfortunes struck Charles XII one after another. What many people don't realize is that the campaign had, more or less, already failed even before Poltava; most likely, Charles XII sought battle on that fatal day to beat the Russians, so that he would be able to retreat unmolested into Poland-perhaps he had foreseen a situation similar to that of Napoleon a hundred years later-and there regroup with Krassow's and Stanislaus I's armies before attempting a new invasion. This would most likely also check the Danes and Saxons who had, even before Poltava, begun planning a re-intervention with Charles XII being so far into enemy territory.
if you study history using ridiculous and deceitful history textbooks and Western propaganda... then you can draw the same conclusions as you, but you are mistaken because you are based on lies. If you want to know the truth, throw away the history textbooks invented in the West, throw away all the Western media. Nowhere in the world are there as many lies as in Western countries (Europe and North America)
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As for history and truth, the Swedish king went south because he was promised mountains of gold and tens of thousands of armies in alliance with Sweden, first Mezape (the governor of Western Ukraine who betrayed Moscow), later the Turks (Ottoman Empire) promised him.
In fact, when the Swedes came for what they had promised,
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Mezape, who betrayed Moscow, found himself practically alone since his own people did not support him, and the military strength of those who came to the Swedes was negligible.
- The Ottoman Empire, having promised to start a war against Russia, actually did nothing because it was not ready, in addition, the Russians were already ready for war with the Ottoman Empire.
Most likely, the Swedes are accustomed to the fact that in Europe, from the mere presence of the Swedish army, entire countries enter into alliances and declare war (Denmark, etc.), immediately coming to Russia and the south - no one cared and no one considered it to be any weighty argument, conceit and ignorance of the truth destroyed the Swedes,
however, the West never learned lessons from this and always lived in conceit and ignorance of the truth.
Ultimately, the king of Sweden fled cowardly to the Turks.
Ukraine did not exist then.
@@aksh2161 I don't care.
@@aksh2161 уверен? мой комментарий удалили по политическим мотивом твои власти, так что вся история которую ты знаешь так же является лживой, а любая правда как мой комментарий твои власти удаляют.
sure? my comment was deleted for political reasons by your authorities, so the whole story that you know is also false, and any truth like my comment is deleted by your authorities.
Been Waiting History marche
Respect to the defenders of the third redoubt!
Hope you can do more battles from the great northern war like Fraustadt and battles that take place after Poltava.
Really loving these videos and hope you dig into and make videos on more Swedish comforts that are relatively unknown such as Russo Swedish war with Gustav III and the Finnish war which resulted in us losing Finland to Russia. I’ve heard from many historians here that we actually could have won that war but we had many incompetent military leaders in command which hurt our chances badly.
Regards from Sweden.
Awesome suggestions. Duly noted! Thanks for watching.
@@HistoryMarche Gustav III was a fool that did get involved with a war with Russia, but the Swedish army (yes the Swedish army) smashed the Russian fleet with rowing boats, one of the great, but one of the most unknown sea victory in history, and the war become a draw. It was his son Gustav IV that did lose Finland to Russia.
@@kirgan1000remember Russia even defeated Sweden in Battle of Skellefteå Swedish soil Russia even pillaged Stockholm
@@JDDC-tq7qm 6000 men against less than a thousand Swedes great victory bro.
This was also well past our days of having a mighty military there was no way we would win the Finnish war. The results aren’t that surprising.
The fact that we even reached great power status at all is a miracle.
В войне с Россией ,в долгую, у Швеции не было шансов. Не сопоставимы были ресурсы. Людские, производство ядер, пушек, снаряжения. После поражения под Нарвой, Пётр 1 восстановил боеспособность своей армии буквально за несколько лет. Не просто восстановил, а сделал её сильнее.
A good film which shows how Russian Empire broke Swedish Empire.
How Russia broke swedish empire and became an empire*.
@@krzysztofmichniewicz6247 Oczywiście.
I think the Mongol invasion of the 12th-14th centuries gave the first impetus to this. Both China and Russia were a group of territories forever fighting each other over small pieces of land, not paying much attention to what was happening outside the lands they knew. Only when a huge empire came, under which almost everyone fell, and then, after 2.5 centuries, were liberated, tendencies towards unification and conquest of their neighbors gradually began to take shape in Russia and China.
It seems to me that that historical period greatly influenced both countries. And the Northern War only determined which of the two empires, Russian or Swedish, would survive and continue to develop.
@@Plutarh1917 No you are not right. At that time you were not very different from people today. The Swedes were just as arrogant and stupid. Russia has humiliated you and continues to do so to this day, but you are not getting smarter, you all dream of defeating Russia.
Russians always seem weak at first. But as you keep fighting them, they keep fighting without giving up and in time they are the ones who come out victorious and the attackers devastated
"Time has worn the soldiers down
Marched for many miles
In the eastern lands so cursed
Time to make a stand
Tsar has scorched his nation’s land
Nothing to be found
Hunger grasps the soldiers’ heart
20 000 strong
Listen, excuse for a king
Trust me, this fight you can’t win
Poltava
Rode to certain death and pain
Poltava
Swedish soldiers met their bane
Poltava
Sacrificed their lives in vain
Poltava
In the shade of morning mist
Advancing on their foe
Bullets break the silent air
Wasted battleplan
Swedish forces stand alone
King has left command
Rule is left to lesser men
Waiting for their chance
Listen, obey my command
Hear me, or die by my hand
Russian armies blocked their way
20 000 lost that day
They bled the ground
Peace they found
There’s no sign of victory
King Carolus had to flee
And leave the land
Leave command
Madness, curse your feeble horde
Fear me or you’ll die by my sword"
Sabton poltava
Alexander Dmitrievich Balashov, was sent as a representative in some official capacity, i cant remember exactly which, of Tsar Alexander I to Napoleon, who was studying a map of Russia at the time, prior to his invasion. In reply to Napoleon's question- "What is the best road to Moscow?", Bolashov replied- "The roads to Moscow are many. The one chosen by Charles XII went through Poltava".
Fantastic video! The Great Northern War was a fascinating event that changed the world forever.
Great video, thank you. Since you are doing Sweedish battles, may I suggest battles of Rochensalm or Svenksund, as it is called in Sweedish history? These are naval battles.
Хороший канал , подача материала детальна и правдоподобна . Автору благодарность .
Another video from HistoryMarche! I will watch this 38 mins long gem later but now I click, I like and I comment for the algorithm.
Thanks so much for the support!
The sad thing is that this whole debacle from Sweden could've been easily avoided had Charles XII been a better politician and statesman. He loved war and battle a little too much and never really took the fragility of the Swedish Empire into consideration.
If a alliance attack you because you are young and untested. How can war be easily avoided?
@@kirgan1000the alliance was already beaten, Charles bit more than he could chew
@@kirgan1000The alliance aready sue for peace, hell even before and after poltava and Charles back from Ottoman exile, all in the alliance are already try to send a several peace offer too Charles. Yet the guy turn all of them down and decide to attack Norway costing his life. If a leader never knew when they have to make a peace for the betterment of people and not his ego, are you considering it he is a peaceful Ruler?.
To be honest, the fall of the swedish empire was probably inevitable, only a matter of time since manpower and resources was starting to play a greater role than before. Charles hastened the decline, but also made sure they went out with a bang.
@@gregrenox9644 What was the peace? Hand over part/whole Swedish Balticum.
Decide to attack Norway, I know the winner are writing the history, but come on, Denmark-Norway did declare war on Sweden.
"a leader never knew when they have to make a peace for the betterment of people"
Do you judge Peter on the same scale? That guy did start the war, that lasted 21 year....
Here we go again
You have shown Masovia a few hundred kilometers to the East from it's real position. Masovia are lands around Warsaw.
I don't know why, but the map of Poland is flawed across multiple history channels nowadays.
@ipoop4timesaday man, map of what is now called Ukraine is also flawed.
The decisve battle of the GNW! Thanks man! You're the Best! Please keep up the amazing work! Consider more reconquista videos please 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
Thanks so much man. Truly appreciate it.
@@HistoryMarche Always
Gosh!!! When next Hannibal episode? We need to know his campaign in Naples.
guys i absolutely need to know if you will continue the eugene’s serie🙏🙏🙏it was a fantastic masterpiece
Yessir, releasing a new episode soon
@@HistoryMarcheCAN'T WAIT 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
@@HistoryMarche YESSSSS🔥🔥🔥🔥
another high quality history video thanks :D
Досмотрел только до 18 минуты, чушь какая-то. Шведы хотели захватить Москву, но в битве при Полтаве у них не было ни войск, ни орудий, ни пороха, ни снарядов, как они хотели дойти до Москвы, по-моему это неумелое оправдание проигрыша сильнейшей армии Европы того времени перед рисским Великим царем.
Дополнение: вырезка из Википедии "план короля, предусматривающий скрытный подход и неожиданную атаку русского лагеря, исключал использование тяжёлой артиллерии, именно поэтому шведская артиллерия практически не использовалась в битве". Просто тактика была такая, которая оказалась проигрышной.
So Wikipedia says the same as this video. The plan was to catch the Russians by surprise and they couldn't transport most of their artillary. It was a losing tactic but also exactly the story told by this video. So I don't understand why you call it nonsense. Maybe you switched off before those details were discussed?
Man, I'm binging these episodes. At least it is'nt endless scrolling. It's educational!
My ancestor, Kristoph Cherniak, was there, fighting along side the Swedes, at the right hand of Ivan Mazepa. Thank you for animating and narrating this battle! A piece of my family's history! Love this and love "Poltava" by Sabaton too! (I had written Par in the past before they made the song and told him of the battle and my family being there, who knows, maybe it was an influence! 😅)
And where do you live? Descentant of immigrants)
Rest in Peace Caroleans. Your efforts and bravery shall never be forgotten ⚔🙏✝
The main thing is that they did not forget to say about the "destroyed civilians by Menshikov" and about how Charles (the conqueror) was supported by "local residents")))). That's how propaganda works.
Still waiting for a new Ikea fragile glass chair "Poltava"
Great video, thanks
Incredible!
A HIstory Marche upload makes a good day
If you cover Gustav the 3 of swedens war with Sweden I will become a Patreon member of you ❤🎉
Surely Gustav III did not fight a war with his own country
Reminds me of Generals Lee and Grant.
Lee was a great battlefield commander, and could adapt really well on the field.
Grant, wouldn't be able to adapt as easily on the battlefield, but was a genius at planning the moves long-term.
Tactical mastermind vs Strategic genius.
I really shouldn't have done that, huh..
yeah, that was stupid.
This channel is amazing. My only wish is a way to see the troops as they would have been armed and armored to make the flags and maneuvers be a bit more understandable. Just a picture of the types and how they would have been decked out for a battle. I know other channels do different versions. Some focus on that, but not the other parts. Sorry, tired. Brain spent.
The turning point of The Great Northern War
1709
It still so painful for swedes to look at because of the mistakes at the battle of Poltava.. But after 1720 when the loss was confirmed with a peace-treaty, the liberty age afterward was called Frihetstiden. A restaurang opened that is still open today in the Old City, Gyldene Freden or The Golden Peace...
Charles’s whole invasion was a catastrophically bad idea.
His aggressiveness finally came back to haunt him.
You do know that Sweden did take Moscow 1610, and did won that war.
Quite a shame Sweden didn't have Michael Singer back then, with all his expert inputs to guide them to victory.
@@kirgan1000it was Poland who take Moscow
People back then were warning Charles. He was just too stubborn to listen.
@@Какой-тоКактус It was the De la Gardieska fälttåget, then Sweden did support one of the Russian throne pretender, there was loots of allied Russian troops to help out. Think Poland did the same in support with there throne pretender.
Beautiful content!
If only Charles XII knew when to stop fighting and consolidated his gains sweden would be a lot different now. Sometimes the pen is mightier than the sword indeed. Carolus rex still cool though 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
If your enemy declar war on you, how shall you consolidate your gain? He is the warrior king that never started a war.
@@kirgan1000 Take the valuable territory near your border rather than march 1000km on enemy territory.
It's hard to know how serious Peter I was with his peace offers right after Narva, as they could've been attempts to stall Charles XII's presumed Russian invasion in 1700 or 1701. Later, before Charles XII's invasion in 1708, Peter I offered peace but only on the condition that he could keep Saint Petersburg; albeit a small stain on a map, such a peace could bring dire consequences in the future as it would give Russia access to the Baltic Sea, of which Sweden relied heavily on to protect its Baltic and German dominions-and the Swedes already struggled with the equally strong Danish navy.
@@mikerodrigues9822 lmao for real. Marching onto St. Petersberg was a no brainer
@@Leaffordesand in the end? That’s right
surprisingly very honest story, thank you
They won because of the immense personal interest of Peter not his country’s interest.
He is so much interested for that port, he even modernized his army and supplied all the funds to his allies.
And yet he shared the spoils with his allies.
He is actual winner and deserve all the spoil but he understood that he can’t win alone with Charles XII and share the spoils with allies . If CharlesXII can negotiate and give him port then Sweden would be a regional power till now.
Because of Charles XII underestimated the Peter abilities that cost him dearly.
After charles XII no one has that will to fight a losing war( from Sweden).
It is Peter’s personal ego that is the starting point for Russia to become a Powerhouse.
That's why he's called Peter The Great
Не было желания больше воевать? Чел😅. Шведы ещё не раз пытались взять реванш, просто с тех пор они перестали быть той огромной силой и русские громили их в салат
everyone who has ever invaded Russia has underestimated it.
The Russians are tired of listening to false tales about the great Vikings and the Russians decided to show who the father really is...
It seems that Charles was a victim of his own success. Having defeated a more numerous Russian force at Narva he assumed that his soldiers were so great, that they could keep routing the Russians in every engagement. His soldiers were indeed great, but not great enough.
Charles: There is nothing more we can do.
in 1709 it was not Ukraine!! It was Malo-Russia. There was NO Ukraine in 1709 at all.
Shut up Putin troll
And Malo-Rus is a Greek term used in the same context as Asia Minor for example. It's a geographical term. Better would be just to use historical regional names like Zaporozhia, Galicia, Volhynia and so on.
@@whitegoose2017so? Where's ukraninan thing begins? There's Russia Minor, not a Urkaine Minor or whatever.)
there was, plenty of document proves it
@@userfuckeri but you won't show these docs to us, right? xD
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Charles XII called Russia "Giant with feet of clay" as you can see he badly underestimated Russians, the same did Napolen and Hitler in 1812 and 1941. and the same happens now
Whoever learns history is doomed to watch others repeat it
When did he call Russia this? Also, it's one thing what leaders say publicly and another what they actually think.
come on dude, in the time of Charles XII there was no clay nor such definition. Actually the best thing king of Sweden could do - establish a furniture manufacture.
@@DarrelX-im2hb the definition comes from the bible, so, even if i can't deny that there isn't evidence of him saying this, it is fully possible
Also what the hell do you mean no clay.
@@Yanramich this biblical expression towards Russia is attributed to Diderot (late 18 century). I realy doubt Charles ever said this.
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Charles went from being arguably the best Swedish leader ( along with Gustavus Alphonsus) to basically ending forever any Swedish empire aspirations ( Sweden would never again play a major role in the area) and getting shot by his own men. A very prominent example of how fortune can change so rapidly.
*possibly being shot by his own men. It’s a theory.
Prevailing theory nowadays is that it was a shot from the Norwegian fortress that killed him.
@@LionMinifigures-gb2ij i wasn't aware of that. Good to know.
I'm thankful that I found this video I've been seen this video
Propaganda and a very tendential selection of facts. The author says how the Russians massacres the population of Baturin, but did not say a word, how sweden killed 4,000 captured Russian soldiers in the battle of Fraushtadt
Так надо, это другое
First off, this is a video about the Swedish invasion of Russia and the battle of Poltava, why would they go through such detailed information about Fraustadt? Secondly, what you're saying is Russian propaganda; Sweden executed a few hundred captured Russians at Fraustadt (that's true), but the several thousands you're speaking off were cut down during the pursuit - which was perfectly normal in battles during this time.
Во Фрауштадте шведы перебили взрослых солдат. В Батурине русские солдаты перебили мирных людей: женщин, детей и стариков. Разница есть.
@@alexanderwhiteley3054 не спорю, есть. Но убийство пленных
Тоже не надо замалчивать
@@ivorrus79 Согласен
Its like history keeps repeating itself every 100 years or so.
Nooooooooooo ! This should have continued with the Battle of Prut ! That "Great" Peter had begged for his life and entire army when Ottoman's encircled him.
Perhaps another time? It's kinda funny how after this Peter get's Vicksburg'd in Prut.
@@FieldMarshalYTwhat happened at the Siege of Stralsund when Charles got besieged 😂😂
@@JDDC-tq7qm Yeah, but he was there only around 1714 in the last years of operations there. Doesn't help that he couldn't rely on any substantial relief army. The one attempt was defeated at Stressow.
Seeing the odds against the Charles, it’s no wonder they lost. Even with an elite army they were heavily outnumbered. It wasn’t even a close battle. It’s more shocking that Charles tried to fight Peter in such conditions.
When is the next early rome episode many hannibal or Etruscan wars
Working on it, should be soon.
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Thank you for the support! So kind of you.
This is awesome, obviously Napoleon studied this battle well!
rofl
@@HistoryMarche Charles XII was a unrivaled tactical master of the battlefield, but lack the strategic thinking, so his battles are worth studying. Not that Charles was shoot and did louse the ability to command during the battle of Poltava. It is Charles fault that there was no strong recognized number 2 or command staff to take over.
The Swedes only managed to squeeze out the battalion of the Novgorod regiment and that's it. There was no panic there.
What's crazy is Peter offered Charles a really generous peace: he gave back everything except st Petersburg. Charles rejected it, and went to his doom. Ultimately, in the end Sweden was lucky peter let them keep Finland and even Sweden itself
nod, Charles refused several chances to resolve this but he chose more violence every time. Peter offered to buy the land for St. Petersburg at the very beginning but Charles chose the option of war. I think he was looking to be remembered among the great generals in history.
The Russians probably could never have held Sweden in any case. Finland, perhaps, but Sweden proper? Hardly. And other nations would never have allowed it.
I think you guys underestimate the strategic importance of Saint Petersburg; it would give the Russians access to the Baltic Sea, something which was completely unacceptable to the Swedes seeing as their whole empire depended on it. And they already had the Danish navy to worry about.
Was that a generous peace? I did attack you with my allies, you smash my army, and beat up my allies, so to have peace, you have to creed land to me, that will totally undermine, the last 100 year of Swedish war to monopolize the Baltic trade.
No Peter wouldn't be able to take Sweden, the balance of power must remain, great power would have interfered, or semi large power like the Dutch. Who did have a tradition to interfere then one power in the Baltic become to successful.
Very informative❤❤
I don't think Peter gets the credit for how well he handled the war with Sweden after getting some experience as a commander. His strategy at Poltava was brilliant.
Agree, it is not just due to the mistakes of the Swedes but the successes of the Russians that they have won in the end
HAHAAH Peter did nothing but run away like a coward, then blamed his generals when they lost, when his generals won Peter took credit, Peter the great coward.
@@phixter If runing away means wining the war, then... why not?
@@phixter And used cannon fodder, a true russian
@@phixterCope harder 😂
Very interesting to hear the AI handle to pronunciations.
Сражение под Нарвой было не просто катастрофой. Именно поражение в этой битае заставило Царя полностью изменить армию. Карл расчитывал встретится с армией, которую разбили под Нарвой. Но к моменту Полтавы это была уже совершенно другая армия с другой дисциплиной, моралью и опытом. Под Нарвой была рождена Русская Гвардия. Под Полтавой Русская Гвардия показала все то, чему она научилась у шведов. Не забывайте, что в России Петр известен как реформатор, он выдернул страну из средневековья и резким скачком перестроил ее в европейскую державу. И одной из причин этого резкого толчка - Северная Война.
Ага. И то, русская армия при огромном численном перевесе чуть не умудрилась проиграть.
@@alexanderwhiteley3054 на поле боя есть победа или поражение, а такие аргументы как "чуть" полная лажа, тем более в условиях войны, когда самая лучшая армия на тот период времени столкнулась с армией, которая только недавно строем ходить научилась и то не вся.
@@kokorogaro5133 На поле боя численно уступающая шведская армия вела наступление. В данной ситуации никаким гением быть не нужно, чтобы одолеть скандинавов. И то, царю пришлось поднапрячься. Собственно, Пётр и не был никаким гением. Завистник, самодур, лжец.
@@alexanderwhiteley3054 как тебя корежит то. Не нравится, что шведы проиграли, да? Ну злись злись, шведы после этого поражения навсегда потеряли свой статус ведущей державы.
@@kokorogaro5133 Да нет, не корёжит. Швеция пошла другим путём, и этот путь оказался прекрасным. Без войн и потрясений. А каролинеры, как ни крути, прекрасные солдаты.
Great one, as usual.
I feel so much Pride and sadness from this video… You want to be there and fix the misstakes.
Yeah, sofa warrior you will fix the mistakes of an emperor. 😂 🤣 😂
You have such a dramatic voice! it's funny
what have we learned kids? don't invade russia.
I am Russian, but I respect Karl and the Swedes in this battle. What courage in the face of such superiority! Not only did they rush into battle with a superior enemy, but there was a moment when they almost broke through the Russian formation! Their courage and steadfastness command respect. If they had lost with more troops than the Russians, then we could call it a great victory for Russia, but I do not understand why such a glorious country as Sweden lost the championship to Russia after ONE decisive battle. Indeed, they made a mistake when they went to Moscow, BUT they cannot be called cowards or weaklings! The Swedes command my respect!
"The Swedes are our teachers"
-Peter the Great
Russia is unparalled in defense through history time and time again
Not against the mongols
Except when the mongols showed up
@@DarkSideChessThe Mongols invaded at a time where the medieval Rus were already fragmented and regional princes payed lip service to their "ruler" in Kiev. It's why even in battle, they marched against the Mongols with their own separate armies led by their respective princes, instead of being under unified command as a singular army.
Russia was defeated easily in WW1, and would've been in WW2 if not for American aid.
@@Mattilainen45 American companies also worked for the military industrial complex of Nazi Germany.
Thank you. Brilliantly done.
Charles' time in Ottoman territory is not mentioned. Charles did his best to force the Ottomans to attack Russia, resulting in the Battle of the Prut.
What happened at the Siege of Stralsund Charles of Sweden got besieged 😂😂
@@JDDC-tq7qm So? 11,000 Swedes against 50,000 allies. What was it to do other than play for time, hoping the allies would retreat with the approach of winter.
Charles was also famously a horrible houseguest from hell to the Ottoman empire during his retreat after Battle of Poltava. He stayed there for 5 years and the sultan was patient enough to not kill him. 😂
A case study in when courage becomes foolhardiness. Charles had half a dozen ways to withdraw with his forces intact prior to committing to battle. Attacking prepared positions outnumbered 3 to 1, and even worse in regards to numbers of cannons? This was neigh-suicidal.