Bowers & Wilkins Zeppelin - A Ridiculously Nice Speaker BUT BROKEN!

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  • @Mymatevince
    @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +37

    Spoiler Saver & Riddle
    What relation would your Father's Sister's Sister in Law be to you?

    • @gullett125
      @gullett125 2 роки тому +3

      Na noo na noo

    • @Jonnyweareten
      @Jonnyweareten 2 роки тому +2

      my mother

    • @1979starscream
      @1979starscream 2 роки тому +2

      Mom!

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo 2 роки тому +7

      Depends whether or not my father has another sibling and that sibling is also married to a woman. It's either my mother or my aunt.

    • @chezsnailez
      @chezsnailez 2 роки тому +3

      My father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate?

  • @davidmuhlberg
    @davidmuhlberg Рік тому +21

    Thank you so much for uploading this ! I'd been using a Zeppelin for 12 years until I had the same flashing red light issue a few weeks ago. I've just done the same as in your video and it's working perfectly again.

  • @stephenbull2026
    @stephenbull2026 2 роки тому +58

    I have one these. When they came out, the company I worked for gave everyone in the firm (120+) a Christmas present. One year everyone had one of these sitting on their desk ! Caused a fair few issues with people taking these home. I had to bring in a trolley in with me to get it home. Had the red light after a year or 2 but B&W were very helpful, sent a box in the post and then a courier the next day to pick it up. Got fixed and returned within a week for no cost at all ! Still works to this day.

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +1

      A very nice Christmas present back then 👍👍👍

    • @JESUSCHRYSLER5512
      @JESUSCHRYSLER5512 2 роки тому +2

      You did not need a trolley to get it home.

    • @arthurpewtey
      @arthurpewtey Рік тому +1

      @@JESUSCHRYSLER5512 I have two of them, different generations. I wouldn't want to carry either of them very far, and they wouldn't fit on my bike. If I had to move them from A to B and didn't want to take a taxi, why not a trolley?

  • @its3z4u2nvm3
    @its3z4u2nvm3 2 роки тому +108

    Would love to see you putting the Echo Dot in the second one. That would be a real treat!

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +14

      Thanks Philip 👍👍👍

    • @DAZ3OO
      @DAZ3OO 2 роки тому +5

      Definitely do the dot idea. It’s the first thing that came to my mind.

    • @DaniyalAR3006.
      @DaniyalAR3006. 2 роки тому +1

      Defintly

    • @DaniyalAR3006.
      @DaniyalAR3006. 2 роки тому +1

      Do it!

    • @darraghomeara7653
      @darraghomeara7653 2 роки тому +2

      I have done this and it works fantastically. Currently have 2 more for repair and retrofit 😊

  • @GoldenDragoon
    @GoldenDragoon 2 роки тому +10

    Nicely fixed, I had the same fault on mine a few years ago and ended up replacing all the caps. I also didn't bother re-attaching the ipod dock as I hadn't used that in years and it makes the design look a lot cleaner :)

  • @JonPadfield
    @JonPadfield 2 роки тому +17

    Nice fix Vince. Proving yet again that cheap parts failing often see expensive products consigned to e-waste when they're perfectly fixable. I would love to see the Alexa Zepplin!

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +3

      Nice one Jon, thank you 👍👌

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 2 роки тому +7

    FYI Vince - My birthday was yesterday and based on my reaction to your yellow mat and my wifes ability to please me, I have officially rolled out my own yellow mat that I got yesterday! She originally bought me the blue one because of you. Now I have one of each. The yellow mat came with a nice and complete small device (phone) tool kit as a bonus. At least one of your fans now has both and it's all because of your wonderful presentations.

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +3

      Hahaha, yessss another yellow mat lives! Happy belated birthday and congrats on your new present. Thank your wife from me, she'll now have to buy you sunglasses for an early Christmas present 😂👍

  • @stevewaller6577
    @stevewaller6577 2 роки тому +6

    Bought three of these recently, a mk1, an air and an air lightning, all for not much money, they sound accurate, melodic when needed and kick hard when the song asks for it.

  • @M1LAD81
    @M1LAD81 2 роки тому +13

    The coils you see are called crossovers. They send the frequencies to the correct drivers (speakers).

  • @RXP91
    @RXP91 Рік тому +3

    It's so warming to see how excited you are at getting electronic "junk" in working order again. This video has made me reconsider buying active speakers for my home theater/stereo setup. They've made leaps and bounds improvements but they're inherently limited. Where as at my parents house my dad is still using his B&O RL45's as rear channels from 1994! Passive lasts. Meanwhile he has been through 4 broken A/V receivers in that time.

  • @billfranks6805
    @billfranks6805 2 місяці тому

    Nice 1 Vince good to see a uk utube tackling a subject i love fiving stuff i made a career now retired rebuilding motorcycles but love fixing or trying to an aray of different things
    Love the channel keep it up
    Bill

  • @Scotty_in_Ohio
    @Scotty_in_Ohio 2 роки тому +30

    I too would like to see the Echo Dot added to the other one - would also be interesting to see if you could find some grille material to recover the front of the speaker covers - would be fantastic to "mod" (modify / customize) the second Zeppelin cosmetically and make a super smart speaker - possibly 3d print a new base that looks like the dirigible's gondola. I don't know how acoustic it would be the grille material could resemble the skin of an airship - just a though Vince - great video!

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo 2 роки тому +3

      Just don't have flames shoot out of it and a nearby (Lego?) figure scream "Oh the humanity."

    • @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co
      @Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co 2 роки тому

      Grill cloth is widely available and not particularly expensive. I count over 300 listings on Amazon and almost as many on eBay tonight; Vince might also want to check large local fabric stores and audio repair outlets.
      You do need to use proper grill cloth, and not just anything at the fabric store; the proper stuff is acoustically transparent.

    • @ianstarcroft
      @ianstarcroft 2 роки тому +3

      A set of Mrs Vince`s tights would do the trick, just not the fishnets 😆

  • @Celisar1
    @Celisar1 2 роки тому +2

    I have one of these but when I listened to classic at home I was utterly disappointed!!
    Bassy, week highs and unclear midths. The store didn’t take it back, so I brought it to a Bowers and Wilkins service shop to see if it was somehow brocken but no: that’s how it sounds.
    I love the form and the idea but do not waste your money on it.

  • @EB-vk5yb
    @EB-vk5yb 2 роки тому +4

    I had the same from ebay till it got broken a year ago. Using it as TV sound bar. It has an awesome DAC inside so it is better to connect it via digital. Great job and it is funny how I was looking for that kind of manual everywhere and few poppped up in one month.

  • @HavingFunRepairs
    @HavingFunRepairs 2 роки тому +36

    Wonderful repair Vince! That item looks like quality, at least with the speakers in it. I can't help but chuckle a bit over the shape. It does resemble a zeppelin style lighter-than-air ship. However, when I look at it I see Prof. Farnsworth from Futurama holding up a similar shaped pill saying "good news everyone it's a suppository". 🤣

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +7

      Hahaha, I won't be able to look at it in the same way now!

    • @HavingFunRepairs
      @HavingFunRepairs 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mymatevince 🤣

    • @AlchemistDD
      @AlchemistDD 2 роки тому +2

      @@Mymatevince You could replace the defective fabric with the fabric of your wife's black women's nylon pantyhose. This should look good and not affect the sound.

  • @keithcheeseman567
    @keithcheeseman567 2 роки тому +3

    I also had 2 of these given to me by a client 8 years ago, they were one of the head honchos at B&W. They are fantastic, they also come with a stand and as you said a remote. Shame the front connecter has gone out of fashion but I also use mine on the aux now. Would love to see what you do with the next one.

  • @sleeplessindefatigable6385
    @sleeplessindefatigable6385 Рік тому

    Just wanted to say I stumbled on your videos the other night and you've given me the confidence to fiddle with more gadgets and gizmos. Turns out when you're not afraid of voiding a warranty or making it look awful, most things can be fixed. You asked briefly if B&W were as good as Bang and Olufsen, and depending on how serious Bowers and Wilkins gets with their engineering, the answer is absolutely yes. Their biggest claim to fame is that their speakers have been used as monitors at Abbey Road studios for decades, and they have a huge semi-concept speaker that looks like a snail shell and sells for sports car money.

  • @xoy74
    @xoy74 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for posting this video. I picked up yesterday from the curb a different version of the Zeppelin (also 30 pin but looks different inside and the metal part on the back of yours is made of plastic on mine - probably an older model ?). Initially I thought it had a firmware issue and spent like an hour trying different things. After seeing your video I got some courage to open it up. Sure enough there were 3 bulged capacitors on the power board. Replaced them and it's working again !

  • @Sadman1471
    @Sadman1471 2 роки тому +1

    I know someone in the comment has suggested this but on the 2nd one, seeing it has the ribbon still for the Ipod connector you could see which lines are ground, 5v and data on that and mount the google mini or dot on the arm. amazing video as always

  • @Khashraan
    @Khashraan 2 роки тому +3

    yeah, the echo Dot Mod would be a nice idea! I'd love to see you modify and repair the other one like this!
    Great job again!

  • @maxz8807
    @maxz8807 2 роки тому +1

    The crashing sound at 16:30 absolutely made my day😂😂

  • @edwardchester1
    @edwardchester1 2 роки тому +10

    Remember reviewing these when they came out. Such a great looking, great sounding and wonderfully simple device. Shame they inherently had a time limit on their usefulness. Even the later Bluetooth version lacked a certain something compared to the original with the iPod dock.

  • @russgladstone432
    @russgladstone432 2 роки тому +1

    remember seeing these for sale in the HMV shop in Canary Wharf, they had it against the wall playing…. Was a party piece in itself,,, and thumping bass a plenty,,, know it was mega expensive, way out of my wage bracket, you’re a clever lucky fella Vince….what a result !!!!!!!

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому

      Thanks Russ, pricey back then but very reasonable now even for a working one👍👍👍

  • @digitalstock1
    @digitalstock1 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent repair- what got me was “ keep it somewhere safe” *breaks glass in the background 😂

  • @paulturner5208
    @paulturner5208 2 роки тому +30

    Yes, turning the second one into a massive echo dot would be a great project. With regards to bluetooth modding the first one - you can get bluetooth receivers that sit on the 30pin port and work very well, so that's a much easier mod.

    • @NatureOkie
      @NatureOkie 2 роки тому

      I have an original iPod, with the non-replaceable (Wink wink) battery...wonder if I CAN fix it?

    • @psirvent8
      @psirvent8 2 роки тому

      @@NatureOkie Look at Ifixit

    • @wayne7521
      @wayne7521 Рік тому

      Yeah kinda dame as what you would do to mod an old car stereo to B T

  • @Figjamxlaststar
    @Figjamxlaststar 2 роки тому +5

    I have one of these for sale at the moment. I have just had it repaired… but i have to say it, it is probably one of the best Apple speakers I have ever used or heard. The sound of these are phenomenal and I paid a lot less for mine brand new than the current ones.

    • @Figjamxlaststar
      @Figjamxlaststar 2 роки тому +1

      The repair they did to mine was a capacitor issue as well. I didn’t have a flashing red light, but a very slow pulsing lavender colour light.

  • @ahelpinghand8340
    @ahelpinghand8340 2 роки тому +2

    Great repair video , I got a zepplin very very cheap because it was faulty. Power supply was good but the inputs were fault, it was cosmetically challenged but cleaned up nice and works perfect now .

    • @budthewhite9723
      @budthewhite9723 10 місяців тому

      Hello, could you maybe explain how to check if the imputs are faulty?

    • @ahelpinghand8340
      @ahelpinghand8340 10 місяців тому

      @@budthewhite9723 I only use the 3.5mm aux input on the back , that was faulty also , causing right channel drop out , had to open the zeppelin up and resoilder the contacts , I've never managed to pair anything wirelessly.

  • @hamishspencer
    @hamishspencer 2 роки тому +2

    I got a little spray bottle/atomiser for my isopropyl. Works well. Keep up the great work, Vince.

  • @KolfMAKER
    @KolfMAKER 11 місяців тому

    Great video Vince!
    I have a Zeppelin too of which there is an issue with the WiFi module. I am sure that everything else is fine. Because I have another B&W with the same WiFi module. And if I swap the WiFi unit to the Zeppelin it works perfect.

  • @crowbarviking3890
    @crowbarviking3890 2 роки тому +7

    Keep in mind you can always use capacitors rated for higher voltages.
    Since these are 16V you can use 25V no issue.

  • @Isthatchicken01
    @Isthatchicken01 2 роки тому +4

    Gotta Love when problems are obvious to detect and fix. I kinda think the speaker looks nicer with the cloth covers off and the drivers exposed.

  • @Venison_0904
    @Venison_0904 2 роки тому +1

    Never seen one of these speakers in my life. Just glimpsed one sitting proudly in my neighbours lounge and am now convinced you live on my street 😂😂😂 love your videos 👌🏻👏🏻

  • @psirvent8
    @psirvent8 2 роки тому +1

    Ah the famous B&W Zeppelin !
    It all brings me back to 2008 when I got a 2nd gen iPod Touch as a gift.
    The mirror finish on the back of the Zeppelin reminds me of this very iPod (That unfortunately ended up destroyed in a house fire along many other stuff). After that I got an iPhone, then other smartphones as time goes by, you know like everyone does nowadays...
    And I remember seeing the Zeppelin at the stores, even trying it with my iPod Touch.
    Back in its time it was clearly presented and thought of as "the poshest" iPod/iPhone speaker you could get, in fact it was THE most expensive one at the stores I got to.

  • @Tokaisho1
    @Tokaisho1 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Vince, love the videos, your thumbnails are getting better! Here’s a tip that works for clicks and views, have a sentence on the thumbnail somewhere that says something like “you will never guess what fixed it…”

  • @squareeyz
    @squareeyz 2 роки тому +2

    I have one of these. it has moved with me across the world around 4-5 times. I have long since abandoned the old Ipod. Iphone dock, and use the optical S/PDIF socket, on the back from a raspberry pi, with a hifi-berry board. The sound is awesome, better than the original dock.

  • @sp523
    @sp523 2 роки тому +1

    Long live the blue mat! Nice video Vince.

  • @wayne7521
    @wayne7521 Рік тому

    Hey up vince ,just seen this , those circuit boards with coils on , are driver boards for speakers ,I believe ..
    I had some nice stand alone speakers , and they have similar ,driver boards
    Makes sense too , seen as all the wadding ,to dampen , vibration , even on wire, harnesses !!
    Looks well quality made !!

  • @KerNel_0x45
    @KerNel_0x45 2 роки тому +4

    I would like to see you putting the Echo Dot in the second one. It's probably easy to find a 5v rail inside, since it already charges the ipod

  • @dpyles9396
    @dpyles9396 2 роки тому +1

    ANOTHER fine repair you've done!

  • @michaelfaraday4243
    @michaelfaraday4243 2 роки тому +2

    I love B&W speakers. They are some of the best I've ever had. I use 686 S2s and they sound AMAZING.

  • @colingarner6175
    @colingarner6175 2 роки тому +5

    You can’t say B&O in the same breath as Bowers & Wilkins . B&W is far superior 😮

  • @R0n8urgundy
    @R0n8urgundy 2 роки тому +2

    Reminds me of a CD player I had back in the day. Audio Innovations Alto. Would love to see one of those on the channel. And yes get rid of the dock on the other one. Be nice to see a bit of modding as well as repair.

  • @MrAsBBB
    @MrAsBBB 2 роки тому +1

    It’s times like that you know what you are doing is so worth while! Congratulations 🎉

  • @samuelfielder
    @samuelfielder 2 роки тому +14

    Well done. Vince, when replacing capacitors in power supplies there is another parameter (apart from capacitance and ESR) that you need to consider: maximum ripple current. If you go back to RS Components and look at that Panasonic capacitor you showed on screen, and download its datasheet, and scroll down to the table on page 112 (actually page 2 of the pdf) you'll see that each cap has a specified max ripple current. Ideally the max ripple current of your replacement cap should be at least as high as that of the failed component. However, it may be hard to discover what that was! The actual ripple current in the cap may be about the same as the current draw from that supply line.

  • @nesertema4583
    @nesertema4583 2 роки тому +1

    nice! I revived an old Bose Ipod/Iphone dock speaker by installing a cheap bluetooth module (plugs right into the "30pin" connector)

  • @Olldrak
    @Olldrak 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve went to school for four years to be an electrician and I’ve done many small appliance repairs, watching your videos makes me confident I can get into small electronics repairs a bit. I’m curious as to what brand your soldering equipment is?

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +1

      I now have a nice Hakko FX-951 soldering iron and a QUICK 861DE hot Air station BUT before that I used a cheap generic Chinese 3 in 1 solder station for a few years 👍👍

  • @grantbanstead1971
    @grantbanstead1971 Рік тому

    I had one of these come in a few years ago. The power supply was different, more complex and fried so I bought a suitable replacement from RS-Components for about £25. Space was tight but it did fit. Job done.

  • @woollysoxx
    @woollysoxx 2 роки тому +1

    Yes, put an echo dot in, it’s the sort of thing I would do, great video, Vince.

  • @mrjsv4935
    @mrjsv4935 2 роки тому +1

    Nice fix, faulty part was proven faulty with testers, even it also looked bad, and only the falty part was replaced, and it fixed the device. I like that :)

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks JSV, I love it when the testers confirm a fault rather than guessing and assuming 👍👍👍

  • @PS3BM1195
    @PS3BM1195 2 роки тому +2

    A popular hack that people do is just get rid of the front bracket like you mentioned. Especially the Zeppelin Air, which I am a proud owner of, really benefits on the looks department without that bracket for the iPhone connector.

  • @v6nce
    @v6nce 2 роки тому +1

    Was going to say recover the grills but many beat me to it.
    Use a pillow to support wobbly items during tear down to prevent accidents. And please do the echo mod to the other one.

  • @jamesdye4603
    @jamesdye4603 2 роки тому +1

    Great finish to a stressful week, thank you.

  • @ryandavis7011
    @ryandavis7011 2 роки тому +1

    I've just picked one myself! You can buy bluetooth adaptors that will fit on the 30pin dock connector, for like 10 pounds on ebay - will let you use it like a modern BT speaker!

  • @mathewcruce517
    @mathewcruce517 2 роки тому +1

    The two units up top are crossover for the speaker’s frequency for woofer,midrange,tweeters and so on nice simple repair 😊

  • @TimPoitevin
    @TimPoitevin 2 роки тому +1

    Great fix, Vince! I've had one of these speakers since 2009-ish, but I haven't put sound through it in probably six or seven years. I agree with you though, the mid-range of these is a bit muddy, so the sound is fairly dull to my ears. But I still have it on display because it's so cool looking!

  • @1969longshanks
    @1969longshanks 2 роки тому +1

    Great video Vince, I've been thinking about getting one of these to show off my iPod collection. Now I might get a broken one

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Peter, fingers crossed you'll find one with the same issue 👍👍👍

  • @waynewaite2374
    @waynewaite2374 11 місяців тому +1

    I never knew that bowers and Wilkins were b&w ! I’ve got two bookshelf type speaks for my denon system and they still sound great

  • @UNUSUALUSERNAME220
    @UNUSUALUSERNAME220 2 роки тому +1

    I'm assuming it's the Mrs that walks in while Vince is recording. She does not care what Vince is up to, she needs something and by God she's gonna get it filming or no! There's almost a passive/aggressive away she goes about it. Comes in, roots around, finds it (whatever it is) and leaves with a nice big door slam! I can hear dishes being done ALL the time as well. She's got things to do, Vince is just havin a laugh and she's busy! Lovely.

  • @florianinside5666
    @florianinside5666 11 місяців тому

    Zeppelin Air is an absolute Beast of a speaker. My unit also just stopped working some day. Hopefully i can fix it that way

  • @danielyeoman1266
    @danielyeoman1266 2 роки тому +1

    AMAZING video Vince..... Would LOVE to see the EcoDot build! Thanks for everything you do.

  • @Envy701
    @Envy701 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. Love your enthusiasm. Well done on the repair. Can I have the other one please :) Actually I just found a complete intact one on ebay with stand and the same fault. Just bought it. Looking forward to see if the capacitors need replacing to cure. Keep up the good work and inspiring us

    • @Envy701
      @Envy701 Рік тому

      Hi Vince. Just an update from me. For the princely sum of 3.35 for x10 Nichicon 2200uf 16v Caps off ebay, I now have a fully working B&W Zeppy! Many thanks again for the video. In the near future I'm going to replace the rest of the caps. I will not be using the iPhone Arm/Cradle so if you want it for your other Zeppy let me know, its yours :)

    • @Envy701
      @Envy701 Рік тому

      After digging around the web for a few hours I found who makes the PSU's in these cdn-docs.av-iq.com/dataSheet/Abletec_produktark_ALP0050-series.pdf Also here are the specs for the required Rubycon Caps. Rubycon ZLH 2200 uF 16v
      Rubycon XYG 470 uF 16v
      Rubycon ZLH 220 uF 35v
      Rubycon ZL 1000 uF 35v

    • @Envy701
      @Envy701 Рік тому

      I have gone and done it. As the 1st Zeppy is now working a treat I bought another in a slightly worse state with a solid red light error, not flashing. Going to see if I can fix this. I am also modding the grilles as the cloth on these was horrid. I will be probing the voltages to see if I can insert a 3rd gen echo dot or a chromecast as I use Qobuz. Fun fun fun :)

  • @Jrer241067
    @Jrer241067 Рік тому

    Brilliant video,and after watching I bid for one on eBay. B&W make some excellent stuff.
    Now when I got it out of box all worked fine, then the RED flashing led,so as you deduced probably a capacitor. So thanks to you’re handy work I’ll follow in you footsteps and fix it👍
    I’m going to do some tests to,as although there’s probably not enough doom inside,I did repair a JBL Xtrene speaker for a client which used a 7.3v 5000Ah battery inside, my thinking is to fit a port on back for DC to turn it into a portable speaker. Perhaps you might try that to ??
    Keep up the good work,always interesting,and knowledgeable
    👍👍👍

  • @Nathan1975Liggy
    @Nathan1975Liggy 2 роки тому +1

    The big coils are crossovers vince.
    That is a very very well made speaker.

  • @rmle23
    @rmle23 Рік тому +1

    On power supply after some years of use and when electrolytic capacitors blow out our seems different shape, the better is replace ALL the capacitors .

  • @mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis
    @mikethedigitaldoctorjarvis 2 роки тому +1

    A couple of weeks ago i fixed a dvd/vhs combo for a friend,same thing,it was 5 capacitors i had to change,that was the only problem ! 1 was leaking,the other 4 were bulged like what you had here !

  • @Retro_andy_1977
    @Retro_andy_1977 2 роки тому +1

    Always fancied one of these Vince
    Enjoyable video from start to end 👍

  • @M1LAD81
    @M1LAD81 2 роки тому +3

    Panasonic, Rubycon,Nichicon or Chemi-Con capacitors will be nice to have on hand. These are all top quality caps. There are a few other top quality ones too

  • @kelzyne
    @kelzyne 2 роки тому +1

    Dude you literally read my mind, you gotta do echo dot built in, soo sic!!

  • @The-Weekend-Warrior
    @The-Weekend-Warrior 2 роки тому +1

    Nice job there!! Wonderful little piece of history. I would definitely get rid of the iPod dock for the other as you won't be using it anyway, the shape is nice even without that... maybe even more :) Congrats!

  • @andygreen99
    @andygreen99 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video. My zeppelin has been sat faulty (flashing red light) for a couple of years, think it’s time I take it apart and see if it is suffering from the same capacitor fault.
    I’m not confident enough to carry out the replacement myself, thinking a local electric repair shop might take on this job if I supply them just the board.

  • @raedjibrail
    @raedjibrail 2 роки тому +2

    Well done for saving this tech from the scrap heap. Remember seeing these in John Lewis for around £500. Loved the design and sound quality, but was way out of my price range.

  • @raypearson2833
    @raypearson2833 Рік тому

    Most Xellent my friend. Superb descriptive and visual work. Many Thanx.

  • @freefall96
    @freefall96 Рік тому +1

    LOL@ Mork & Mindy RIP Robin Williams That was probably his best role in my opinion!

  • @tomoreilly9932
    @tomoreilly9932 Рік тому

    Wow even as a speaker alone it's amazing, and with your knowledge it's an astounding bargain.

  • @haggismoon
    @haggismoon Рік тому

    Hi Vince, was just watching the second season of Clarkson`s Farm, and one of these was in the background of one of the scenes.

  • @johnnyviolent
    @johnnyviolent 2 роки тому +1

    Great video - I had this device and it went faulty, B&W replaced it out of warranty for the newer version (not for free, but at a decent discount) for the newer version that didn't have the dock. That also went faulty, and I was given a discount for their Formation Wedge. They are lovely speakers, good sound, but quite unreliable. Interesting to see the fault may have been a few dollar capacitor. The Wedge that I now still use has been performing reliably since I got it. Let's see if reliability has increased over the years :-)

  • @TheDefpom
    @TheDefpom 2 роки тому +1

    You can’t rely on capacitance or ESR alone, I’ve had caps test ok that we’re still bad due to leakage when exposed to their working voltage… always just replace them all, I consider electrolytic caps to be consumables. Also don’t forget to replace the two big caps under that long sticker.

  • @JonHaa87
    @JonHaa87 2 роки тому +1

    Great video and nice fix. I'd love to see you converting the second one to an echo dot or something. I think it would look better without that outdated iPod holder anyway.

  • @finbah5706
    @finbah5706 2 роки тому +1

    omg Mork and Mindy. I use to watch before school in grade school ..I'm 51 now!

  • @darennaisbitt1314
    @darennaisbitt1314 Рік тому

    Thanks so much, I was gifted a broken one with similar problems, I took a chance and bought the same capacitor. It was the 1st capacitor I have ever replaced and it works a treat. You video gave me the confidence to attempt it. Always wanted one but could never justify the price tag. Did you ever try to stick an echo dot in one?

  • @doug2001cupra
    @doug2001cupra 2 роки тому +1

    Yes echo dot in the other would be awesome !! Or the Bluetooth brings it up to today specs also!

  • @SPEXWISE
    @SPEXWISE 2 роки тому

    B&W had a factory in Worthing, might still do. Me and a mate used get on our bikes from Shoreham-by-Sea to go and raid their skips for speakers and speaker wire. Actually made some decent speakers from what they discarded. This was back in early 90s.

  • @BuyitFixit
    @BuyitFixit 2 роки тому +5

    Great Job Vince! I could see the bulging cap around the 12 min mark! It's a common failure on switch mode power supplies especially in TV's. Great repair, and well executed as always :)

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you. I've mentioned you in a couple of upcoming videos. Once in a really rare Omega watch video and another in a (you guessed it)...A Dyson fan 😂👌

    • @BuyitFixit
      @BuyitFixit 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mymatevince Oh brilliant! Really appreciate that. I just had a good boost of subscribers as my video on reverse engineering the solar inverter password got published on a site called hackaday. You may find it interesting if you haven't seen it. I Really appreciate that Vince. You are a true gentleman! If there's anything I can do for you in the future let me know!

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +1

      @@BuyitFixit No worries, I just released the Omega watch to my Patrons so it will be on UA-cam next weekend. The Dyson fan will probably be live in a few weeks. I haven't seen the solar video yet, I tend to binge watch ever few weeks so I will be sure to catch up with it then. Sorry I never caught your name so apologies just calling you Buy it Fix it 👍👍

    • @BuyitFixit
      @BuyitFixit 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mymatevince No problem Vince. It's Mick :)

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +1

      @@BuyitFixit Cheers Mick 👍👍

  • @racertimx
    @racertimx 2 роки тому

    Yes I would like to see the Echo dot video, this finished up very well thank you Vince

  • @paultasker7788
    @paultasker7788 2 роки тому +1

    What a fix! An absolute bargain you have there. I remember seeing these at 400 and were fairly hardly regarded then. Amazing one cap can totally disable it.

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому

      Thanks Paul, yes the video I seen was £400 or €600 back in the 2008. Well worth the £25 for a faulty one 👍

  • @NoJusticeNoPeace
    @NoJusticeNoPeace 2 роки тому +1

    The cotton is stuffed into any gaps to absorb vibration to prevent the build-up of harmonics in the sound which might produce buzz.

  • @shaun4787
    @shaun4787 Рік тому

    Great video! Very helpful. I also have this dreaded blinking red LED problem after a power outage. Probably the power surge fried one of those capacitors. I wonder if I could just leave the 30pin holder band off after replacing the LED. It's useless and the unit looks even better without the band. I saw people on Reddit said it can be left off and the speaker will just work fine as a wifi device.

  • @mr.y.mysterious.video1
    @mr.y.mysterious.video1 2 роки тому +1

    Picked up one of these at a boot sale for a fiver . Worth the money

  • @massaarys
    @massaarys 2 роки тому +9

    I fixed one a while ago, it was also a bad capacitor. You can remove the docking part, it looks better in my opinion. I added a little bluetooth board to mine (cheap from aliexpress), built inside, and it works great. Just connect it to AUX port pins on the board and take 5V from somewhere. You need to modify AUX port itself because there is detection if a cable is plugged in, this way it will go directly to AUX when it's turned on. Great sounding speaker, one of the best docking speakers ever built, they just don't do quality stuff these days.

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo 2 роки тому +9

      I really hate this "they just don't do quality stuff these days" thing. Those speakers were 600 Euros 13 years ago. If you're willing to shell out that kind of money you can also get that kind of quality today. Most people just aren't willing to do that.

    • @Brianck1971
      @Brianck1971 2 роки тому +1

      @@MyRegardsToTheDodo Very well said. You always have and always will be able to buy quality.

    • @massaarys
      @massaarys 2 роки тому +1

      @@MyRegardsToTheDodo I agree with you, for the right amount of money you can get quality. But in this class of speakers there is not much incentive for manufacturers to put quality components in, not many people willing to spend more than equivalent JBL for example. No one will put that large cast metal back, large air core inductors for crossover, because it costs money. Even in B&W next model of zeppelin you can notice some cost saving measures, doing digital signal processing, cheaper drivers, etc.
      There are better sounding speakers in this class today, for less money, but thanks to DSP and other stuff. Zeppelin was from different era when quality of internal components was most important. This is just my opinion.

  • @Johna130
    @Johna130 2 роки тому +1

    Nice fix. Sounds nice coming through my Bose sound bar.

  • @JD_AutoModz
    @JD_AutoModz 2 роки тому +3

    rip the old material off and use some tights of your choice ;) then clamp them up around the edge with loads of spring clamps then add superglue it will seep through and stick it all down. Done it a few times and looks proper.

  • @UltimatelyEverything
    @UltimatelyEverything 2 роки тому +1

    A nice set of speakers there and a nice and easy fix i do appreciate all the hard work and dedication Vince keep up the good work.

  • @6581punk
    @6581punk 2 роки тому +1

    Listening to this via my B&W 607 speakers. Low end B&W but better than PC speakers :)

  • @grantpaterson1016
    @grantpaterson1016 2 роки тому +2

    I still rock my Zeppelin every day....and it is an old 30 pin. Added a new Bluetooth 5.0 adapter, awesome. Got mine for £70 'due to fault' about 9yrs ago on the Bay....turned out it just needed a reset. This Unit range was the What Hi-Fi Best winner for about 5yrs

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому +2

      Excellent 👍👍👍

    • @budthewhite9723
      @budthewhite9723 10 місяців тому

      Hi, could you elaborate which Zeppelin you have and how you resetted it? Thanks in advance

  • @christhomas7905
    @christhomas7905 Рік тому

    Sorry I'm late to the party on this, but first of all... Well done! What a bargain for a quick and easy repair. Second, I would love to see you design the other one with an echo dot attached and get rid of the redundant iPod dock. I thought I had hit subscribe, but turns out I didn't so wondered why I wasn't getting updates lol. Looking forward to more videos.

  • @Enlightened-WOLF
    @Enlightened-WOLF 2 роки тому +1

    Bowers & Wilkins is a factory upgrade in my top end jag xfs 9 speakers its loud and clear

  • @andrewcollins867
    @andrewcollins867 2 роки тому +1

    Yes echo dot it please ..would love to see an update conversation to it 👍 really enjoyed this one too

  • @countzero1136
    @countzero1136 2 роки тому +2

    Nice work as always Vince!
    One bit of friedly advice though - when replacing output caps on a switch-mode power supply, be sure to order proper low-ESR types, otherwise they're going to fail again in a big hurry. Switching PSUs are brutal on output caps...

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому

      Thanks Count Zero, are they advertised as Low ESR or is it well known that certain brands like Panasonic are always low ESR. I mean do brands like Panasonic make 2 different caps in that voltage and capacitance, one normal cap rated at 105 degree Celsius and one the same specs but also Low ESR. Also do you know if there is any downside (apart from cost) of fitting a Low ESR cap in place of a bog standard cap. Sorry for the questions but this may help out others reading it. Cheers 👍👍👍

    • @iain999999999999999
      @iain999999999999999 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mymatevince "Low ESR" should indeed be mentioned on the data sheet probably right at the top. A quick peek at a random panasonic datasheet has "low impedance" as one of the highlight features. Might be printed on the side too; think I recall another youtube video showing such a thing but do not count on that. Downside i think if you want to look at it that way is size. The size difference suggests your replacement was probably not low ESR so may not last long atall. Though a nice quality really low ESR capacitor is no good if it doesn't fit between the others or is so tall you can't get the lid on!

    • @Mymatevince
      @Mymatevince  2 роки тому

      @@iain999999999999999 Thanks Iain👌👍👍👍

  • @greenaum
    @greenaum 2 роки тому +3

    The massive inductors (0.7 milliHenry) are crossovers for the speakers. Most decent speakers have them. They split off the output of the amp into lower and higher frequencies, to feed to the woofer, midrange, and tweeter. They're usually entirely passive circuits, no transistors or power supply, and are built into the speaker box itself, where it's a standard stereo with separate speakers.
    You can also get active crossovers. These are powered, and split off the frequencies *before* the power amp. Then you'd have an entire separate amplifier for each tweeter, each woofer, etc, linked directly to their relevant speakers. I'm surprised that isn't the way it was done in this thingy, especially since you could do the crossovering in software on the CPU that's in there, assuming a decent CPU.

  • @sublimationman
    @sublimationman 2 роки тому +1

    Back 20+ years ago I bought a tool that would check most capacitors in circuit, did not work 100% of the time (because of other components) but on those I would take 1 leg out and re test. Saved me tons of time

    • @xxycom8963
      @xxycom8963 2 роки тому

      Try LCR-T7 tester, which beside testing LCR, also tests Diodes, Zeners, Transistors, MOSFETs, JFETS, ESR. and thanks to Chinese it is cheap, like less than $30. i can’t speak to in-circuit testing, though. Like your previous experience, it should occasionally work.

    • @wisher21uk
      @wisher21uk 2 роки тому

      I have a peak ESR meter and it’s spot on all the time