Killing 2 noobs in: DS1 - just BS cheese DS2 - equip warmth pyromancy and you should be fine DS3 - just use spacing and not be greedy ER - Just wait for your turn until they run of FP & be careful to not get blendered
BS wasn’t cheese at all in dsr. It worked the same for everyone and if you had a basic understanding of latency then u were good. The back stabs are what made that game possible to gravelord. Imagine gravelording in any other souls and you can see why the BS was actually very fair
If those DS1 noobs aren't 100% noobs and know how to fish for BS you will have a very hard time fighting them, as soon as you backstab one the other will stand behind you to get a bs as soon as you are out of the animation.
How funny would it be if he said "f*ck my viewership" and defected to Dark Souls 2 invasions out of nowhere one day and never went back and said nothing
He probably would not enjoy Ds2 unless there is a hardcore pvp community dedicated to maximising competetiveness. He played a ton of Ds3 and that's so competetive that cheating and 3rd party software got normalized creating a toxic atmosphere. Idk about DsR much, I assume it has the same online activity as Ds2 maybe less.
@rpstephen I was joking haha, DS2 is way too chill for this guy. He plays souls games like he's in a tournament, couldn't handle how different ds2 is. Literally the polar opposite of clusterfuck elden balls invasions
these nerd losers who are trying to prove something to nobody by being a "hardcore gamer" need to either get good at something in real life or go talk to a woman
Lots of "elden ring conquerors" were carried and used the cheese mode to flex online. Duel vs one of them and as soon as they tip the last FO they either crutch or dc or ce
They made spells and AoWs too spammable. FP cost just isn't a concern here, if everything had double the FP cost it'd be a little less frustrating to deal with.
Only the ashes, not spells. Some ashes of war like Blood Blade are spamable enough that you will only need 10 mind and 2 blues to kill anything, with most spells you will need 38 mind and half your flasks on blue to not run dry mid fight and when you run out your build will be shit because you sacraficed endurance, vigor and half your healing flasks for for fp.
@ Stamina is a problem too Spells however definitely need their FP cost increased, you can spam things like star shower and spectral rings with no drawback
game developers add mechanics that favor noobs to help them have a chance to win, racing games make the last place player faster, fighting games make players with low health do more damage, etc... but elden ring is the only game who goes "here have this equipment that bypasses the entire fundementals of the game, you can beat the pvp expert with a single lucky hit!"
It’s their best selling game of all time, of course they’re hand holding. Every game that comes out people whine about the new easy mode thing. Open your eyes, who the hell are you to judge how bubba and timmy beat the game? Just have fun with the invasion and don’t get butt hurt because you didn’t win against 2 guys who can blender you and can’t hit each other. Invasions are designed for you to lose, in case it wasn’t somehow obvious 2 years into the game.
@@elijahmontgomery4146 My problem with invasion is that there can only be 4 people in a world at a time. Which means no fight clubs and fun 3v3 brawls.
It seems pvp has been pushed aside with each game focusing more on flashy visuals and pve. Ds2 was the best at showing the deference between a skilled player and a noob. You could absolutely bully them in ds2 😄 good times
I remember how in ds2, you could even play with your food, if the host did'nt know how to play. It was the opposite from this game, where any noob can be a threat with spamming.
I mean it's cool. Either way the only way to dominate would be "I learnt how to dodge and press muh buttons fast, I'm so skeelful!" But here bro is forced to dodge magic (oh no!) and just malds😂
I really love the dlc for adding lulling branch, because people really needed more fp. That's what I thought when I got the dlc: "This game needs more ways of retaining or acquiring fp for spam." This game has got to be an absolute joke by now in regards to the pvp... Well, assuming it wasn't already.
At 6:05 is it like experience in the pvp where you have to parry earlier to get the counter? Do you also have more time to swap than for example with NPC offline?
ngl, due to lack of competition in the ER ladder, i feel like jeenine's aggressive playstyle he developed in ds3 has kind of been lost. its not just that the AoW make it hard to kill 2 noobs, its also that after some years of sloppy ER pvp, your own senses get dulled too
I always figured that if you're invading, thats it you're invading. they can do whatever to kill the invader. if you want PVP then go where more PvPers are expected.
G i really love your content, but it bothers me how much you complain about the game, yet you still playing everyday but looks like you never have fun, it seems you just want to end every invasion quick and go to the next one, i feel like you forget that the game is made for the HOST, not for us INVADERS, im not saying this to critique you, i just honestly think your videos would be more enjoyable if you complained less, anyways dont know if youre reading this, i love your content man, ima keep watching you destroy those players, peace!
On top of having all the Fp, I hate how hosts can just get absolutely carried through the game on the backs of overleveled boyfriends (Phantoms). Matchmaking passwords ruin the honest experience of playing the game, sure you can play through the game how you like. We all can, but when you're a level 30 host with a possible 713 boyfriend...Well that's just cringe right there.
Stop complaining about elden rings flaws jeebanana so the rest of the scrubs can have a chance! Lord miyazaki has saved them and you keep pushing his highness to change it!
damn it's almost as if fans and regular players of any game are more prone to finding flaws, and they understandably get tilted the more and more they see said flaws
@@tpchw I’m familiar with the game and it’s flaws, but it’s become pretty clear that fromsoft isn’t capable of/willing to balance the soulsborne series for PvP so it’s just beating a dead horse at this point.
Why complain? You have near unlimited consumables (save exploit), a meta build, they aren't even cheating or fog walling and u still complain? ChaseTheBro would have wiped the floor with them on a random build...
fr bro hes complaining yet he missed them 99% of the time when he was trying to hit them with his weapon and keeps running away from them... hes a noob himself
Exactly bro, the fact that an experienced player using a meta setup still needed so much effort to beat 2 noobs with no fundamentals says something about this game
@@davidchua188 or his skill. There is nothing wrong with the game in this clip. This is just venting. The guys applied good tactic at their level. Can't blame them. What's wrong with ER? Fogwallling, net code cheats, save exploit (see above)...
Idk you’re kinda sitting at range when they have ranged magic? How about carry something with a close range AoE ash of war? You’re playing this like it’s DS3 and all you have is lightning bundles.
“The game beats itself up for this.” You’re choosing to invade people over going to the Colosseum and joining in a duel. You’re actively hindering the Host’s progress, so don’t be surprised when people aren’t going to let you do that easily lmao
Imo the game would’ve been better waaay more balanced if they just capped the mind stat at like 30, and made it so you can only have like 4 blue flasks allocated.
This just in, the PVE game that has PVP doesn’t prioritize the PVP players experience. Basement dwellers everywhere forced to accept that they can’t win them all?
Killing 2 noobs in:
DS1 - just BS cheese
DS2 - equip warmth pyromancy and you should be fine
DS3 - just use spacing and not be greedy
ER - Just wait for your turn until they run of FP & be careful to not get blendered
2 noobs in ds3? Don’t you mean 4? XD
BS wasn’t cheese at all in dsr. It worked the same for everyone and if you had a basic understanding of latency then u were good. The back stabs are what made that game possible to gravelord. Imagine gravelording in any other souls and you can see why the BS was actually very fair
@ Bro in ds1 the most popular builds were WoG, TWoP, Dark Bead, Giant Dad, and Havel Murakumo for a reason. The PvP is absolutely a cheese fest.
If those DS1 noobs aren't 100% noobs and know how to fish for BS you will have a very hard time fighting them, as soon as you backstab one the other will stand behind you to get a bs as soon as you are out of the animation.
@ yes and no. You can parry buffer so you always get it, but that is very looked down upon by almost the entire dsr community
Who needs fundamentals when we have cool and flashy anime moves that do UGS damage from 30 meters away?
I dislike how players with zero fundamentals can be so dangerous.
unironicalle luck based games require more skill than elden ring
Me when i cant kill multiple players alone for free
Exactly the point
@@abrahamrangel2326 Well there is two of them spamming at once which is much harder then dealing with just one.
How can do you even enjoy invasions (not talking about just elden ring)?
How funny would it be if he said "f*ck my viewership" and defected to Dark Souls 2 invasions out of nowhere one day and never went back and said nothing
I wouldn't blame him. DS2 and DS3 may have had their flaws, but their combat systems were set up much better than Elden Ring.
He probably would not enjoy Ds2 unless there is a hardcore pvp community dedicated to maximising competetiveness. He played a ton of Ds3 and that's so competetive that cheating and 3rd party software got normalized creating a toxic atmosphere. Idk about DsR much, I assume it has the same online activity as Ds2 maybe less.
@rpstephen I was joking haha, DS2 is way too chill for this guy. He plays souls games like he's in a tournament, couldn't handle how different ds2 is. Literally the polar opposite of clusterfuck elden balls invasions
@@JonselytheGreat yeah, I'd watch it though NGL. I gotta admit Ds2 offers much more fun and organic online experience which I like
And to think there are still people who think beating Fromsoft games is the mark of a hardcore gamer.
and to think same scrubs are against easy mode added to souls games as if not all of them were playing it from the beginning
People who genuinely thinks that beating any of the souls game makes you a hardcore gamer is already wrong to begin with nevermind elden ring
these nerd losers who are trying to prove something to nobody by being a "hardcore gamer" need to either get good at something in real life or go talk to a woman
Lots of "elden ring conquerors" were carried and used the cheese mode to flex online. Duel vs one of them and as soon as they tip the last FO they either crutch or dc or ce
They made spells and AoWs too spammable. FP cost just isn't a concern here, if everything had double the FP cost it'd be a little less frustrating to deal with.
Only the ashes, not spells. Some ashes of war like Blood Blade are spamable enough that you will only need 10 mind and 2 blues to kill anything, with most spells you will need 38 mind and half your flasks on blue to not run dry mid fight and when you run out your build will be shit because you sacraficed endurance, vigor and half your healing flasks for for fp.
They should have rather increased the stamina cost on everything to prevent spamming.
@ Stamina is a problem too
Spells however definitely need their FP cost increased, you can spam things like star shower and spectral rings with no drawback
They should bring back spell uses like in ds1 and 2. Not sure what made them introduce mana in ds3.
@ Is Star Shower at 23fp that much more spamable than Halo Scythe at 13fp or Storm Blade at 6fp?
2:45 - "It's like the game beats itself for them..."
Yeah? Well, now we're gonna see more of that in Night Reign.
casuals love elden ring, nightreign will make them jump of joy
Good thing night reign isn’t a souls game then.
Try not to utterly despise Nightreign like it’s Miyazaki’s personal anti-Christ before it even comes out (also ur probably right)
It could be true. At lesst give us what if scenraios and covenants
Worst PvP in the series.
"been doing a lot of dueling"
amish translation - "I've had enough of invasions for now"
It takes an annoying amount of time to beat range spam, but FP is finite stamina is not.
game developers add mechanics that favor noobs to help them have a chance to win, racing games make the last place player faster, fighting games make players with low health do more damage, etc... but elden ring is the only game who goes "here have this equipment that bypasses the entire fundementals of the game, you can beat the pvp expert with a single lucky hit!"
It’s their best selling game of all time, of course they’re hand holding. Every game that comes out people whine about the new easy mode thing. Open your eyes, who the hell are you to judge how bubba and timmy beat the game? Just have fun with the invasion and don’t get butt hurt because you didn’t win against 2 guys who can blender you and can’t hit each other. Invasions are designed for you to lose, in case it wasn’t somehow obvious 2 years into the game.
@@elijahmontgomery4146 My problem with invasion is that there can only be 4 people in a world at a time. Which means no fight clubs and fun 3v3 brawls.
What i liked about magic in ds2 is it relied on a number of casts you had for your wizard instead of an fp bar
I bet one charged ancient dragons' lightning strike would have taken care of those fools in the beginning lol
It seems pvp has been pushed aside with each game focusing more on flashy visuals and pve. Ds2 was the best at showing the deference between a skilled player and a noob. You could absolutely bully them in ds2 😄 good times
I remember how in ds2, you could even play with your food, if the host did'nt know how to play. It was the opposite from this game, where any noob can be a threat with spamming.
I love invading ganks in DS2. If you're an experienced PvP guy, it's not a problem and is a hell of a lot of fun to take them all out.
Lots of people who got carried through the game mad when they have to pvp is funny.
God forbid people play a game casually
How dare they play the game to have fun.
I thought the music was “a funeral of flowers” from fire emblem at first
Best title ever
I mean it's cool.
Either way the only way to dominate would be "I learnt how to dodge and press muh buttons fast, I'm so skeelful!"
But here bro is forced to dodge magic (oh no!) and just malds😂
Yep. The title is how I have been feeling lately.
The title of this is so real
I really love the dlc for adding lulling branch, because people really needed more fp. That's what I thought when I got the dlc: "This game needs more ways of retaining or acquiring fp for spam."
This game has got to be an absolute joke by now in regards to the pvp...
Well, assuming it wasn't already.
the background music its too loud but thx for the vid jeenine
I hope some of these days you try again the Pyro build. I know it's easy mode but at least it's fun
The title can be anymore true 😂
At 6:05 is it like experience in the pvp where you have to parry earlier to get the counter? Do you also have more time to swap than for example with NPC offline?
They should bring durability and charges back to replace FP.
ngl, due to lack of competition in the ER ladder, i feel like jeenine's aggressive playstyle he developed in ds3 has kind of been lost. its not just that the AoW make it hard to kill 2 noobs, its also that after some years of sloppy ER pvp, your own senses get dulled too
He lost his ‘aggresive’ style way before elden ring in ds3 he was pretty much always a glass canon(playing defensive tho)
waiting for the 3 man bone bow video
Miyazaki is really babying these noobs in this game 🍼🍼🍼.
Love the title
I always figured that if you're invading, thats it you're invading. they can do whatever to kill the invader. if you want PVP then go where more PvPers are expected.
I think that is pretty well established at this point
G i really love your content, but it bothers me how much you complain about the game, yet you still playing everyday but looks like you never have fun, it seems you just want to end every invasion quick and go to the next one, i feel like you forget that the game is made for the HOST, not for us INVADERS, im not saying this to critique you, i just honestly think your videos would be more enjoyable if you complained less, anyways dont know if youre reading this, i love your content man, ima keep watching you destroy those players, peace!
On top of having all the Fp, I hate how hosts can just get absolutely carried through the game on the backs of overleveled boyfriends (Phantoms). Matchmaking passwords ruin the honest experience of playing the game, sure you can play through the game how you like. We all can, but when you're a level 30 host with a possible 713 boyfriend...Well that's just cringe right there.
Stop complaining about elden rings flaws jeebanana so the rest of the scrubs can have a chance! Lord miyazaki has saved them and you keep pushing his highness to change it!
Yup Miyazaki is giving them baby milk because is too hard pvp.
@@immortal_jairo88yea i dont get why its a question its pretty obvious at this point
Thats the point.
Nice greatbow shots lol. Maybe work in some ranged options you can actually hit.
anyone know where i can find jeenines build?
been using the same build for almost a year now
59vig
38end
54str
18dex
@ thank you and sorry for the redundant question. I also found your video from 5 months ago answering this.
This guys are not noobs they usually spam roll but they know how to dodge perfectly
Jeebanana tries not to complain about Elden Ring every day challenge (actually impossible)
damn it's almost as if fans and regular players of any game are more prone to finding flaws, and they understandably get tilted the more and more they see said flaws
bro everybody that complains about invading all play the same.
Redditor tries not to complain about Jeenine’s basic criticisms challenge (literally unfathomable)
@@tpchw I’m familiar with the game and it’s flaws, but it’s become pretty clear that fromsoft isn’t capable of/willing to balance the soulsborne series for PvP so it’s just beating a dead horse at this point.
@@cassiushellsin6243 I’m not a redditor 🤬
They have wife and kids bro chill
Social cannibal doesn't understand why a game designer might make social cannibalism difficult
Imagine calling a fucking video game mechanic "social cannibalism".
@@hoked2194 reddit invasion
Your bitching about them but your not great either.
Least clueless random:
And you are? Oh thats right you are nothing. Jeenine has a name in this community not just from streaming but participating in tournaments
When you start to invade you will then realize how hard it is
@@kuru-yami9416You’re doing tricks on it bro
Why complain? You have near unlimited consumables (save exploit), a meta build, they aren't even cheating or fog walling and u still complain? ChaseTheBro would have wiped the floor with them on a random build...
fr bro hes complaining yet he missed them 99% of the time when he was trying to hit them with his weapon and keeps running away from them... hes a noob himself
Exactly bro, the fact that an experienced player using a meta setup still needed so much effort to beat 2 noobs with no fundamentals says something about this game
Please post your gameplay
@@ganguro60a ‘noob’ that would destroy 95% of players(including you) in a duel but sure go off
@@davidchua188 or his skill. There is nothing wrong with the game in this clip. This is just venting. The guys applied good tactic at their level. Can't blame them. What's wrong with ER? Fogwallling, net code cheats, save exploit (see above)...
sorry but judging on how you played in the first clip you seem like a noob too
Clueless
Judging based on 1 video among his hundreds or thousands you are very special🤣🤣
Idk you’re kinda sitting at range when they have ranged magic? How about carry something with a close range AoE ash of war? You’re playing this like it’s DS3 and all you have is lightning bundles.
Waste of human skin.
Sad that your entire comment section agrees with you too lmao…git gud I guess…scrubs
Post your gameplay Redditor
“The game beats itself up for this.” You’re choosing to invade people over going to the Colosseum and joining in a duel. You’re actively hindering the Host’s progress, so don’t be surprised when people aren’t going to let you do that easily lmao
It should be easy to beat players that are objectively way way worse than you.
Imo the game would’ve been better waaay more balanced if they just capped the mind stat at like 30, and made it so you can only have like 4 blue flasks allocated.
This just in, the PVE game that has PVP doesn’t prioritize the PVP players experience. Basement dwellers everywhere forced to accept that they can’t win them all?
This games have always been integrated multiplayer games so to wish the PvP is more balanced isn’t some crazy ask
‘Basement dwellers’, coming from the actual caveman lmao😂😂
We are souls players. We are all cavemen who are yet to feel the sunlight on our skin.