Old Start and ride along of a John Deere Model B Tractor | 2 Cylinder Johnny Popper | Poppin' John
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2021
- Today on Project Time Garage we wake up the old John Deere Model B Tractor that's been sleeping for the past 5 years. Nothing sounds quite like the old 2 Cylinder Johnny Poppers.
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I just bought a 1941 John Deere B yesterday and I have to restore it completely, but it is very solid for its age and I am so excited. I’ve wanted one of these things since I was probably 13 years old.
Awesome, good luck with your project!
brings back some of my best childhood memories. My grandfather had one just like this...I love the starter sound, the bag of marbles sound at idle...and there is nothing better than hearing a JD Popper under a load...thanks for the memories!
Glad you enjoyed it
I love John deere. Growed up on a 53 jd 70 and a 52 a jd. I have a 53 j d 7o in.myshed. I use a lot.
Yep! Jez the SOUND of that Model B when she's a "workin'?" No other tractor sounds like it! Stands out in a crowd she does! 👍
The first tractor I ever owned, at the age of fifteen, was a 1946 "Model B" by John Deere. I used to refer to it as "huff and puff" for obvious reasons (especially for those who have ever operated one ). It is the star of this story. My father used to make cedar shingles and to do this he used to roam the woods harvesting cedar stumps. He did this with a Fordson of unknown vintage and a homemade trailer. One day he got them both stuck to the point that he broke the crank on the Fordson of an unknown vintage trying to get out of the muck. After some time has past (for him to walk out of the woods and home) we both return with a massive log chain and the JD. After hooking up to the Fordson, the old Model B huffed and puffed not only pulling the Fordson and the loaded Trailer free of the muck but all the way home also. As long as I owned that John Deere I never let dad forget who and what rescued him that day.
I love hearing stories like this. These things got used hard for many decades. that's a testament to how tough they are, and how well made they were.
I am 76 now, but between the ages of 12 and 18 I spent many hours on a John Deere B just like the one in this video. It took a long time to plow a field with a two bottom plow, but I guess I was cheap labor. The sound of motor really brought back memories. I am glad you have saved this one from the scrape heap. 😊
Really unique sound for sure. I have a few other old two cylinders. I'm sure I'll get to making a few videos of them this summer sometime.
I had one just like this growing up. My love for cars and trucks started with those ol 2 cylinder John Deeres. Love that sound.
Definitely unique.
My grandpa collected and restored these. I loved the sound of the 2 cylinder engines.
Love the sound of them too.
-Great sound. Those 2 cylinder pop in J's are something else.
My dad had an old B. Older than this one, that didn't have an electric start. It sounded like a hit and miss engine when at idle. I used to love the sound of the engine as it was being throttled up. It was also fun starting it; pulling that flywheel.
Good stuff.
Hello,
I am an 81 old Male who was a Macanic who worked on school buses,s and outboard motors for some 45 years just found your channel, thanks I now will watch your channel from now on.
That's awesome. Glad to have you on here!
That sure brings back memories. We had a 37’ model “A” growing up. Except ours had the hand start flywheel with the compression releases. Alway started good and quite a bit of power for a twin cylinder. Sure would’ve been nice having electric start on it though. 😆 Nice video
Thanks!!
Unmistakable sound that says; "You haz farm tractor."
#Truth - Nothing sounds like them at all.
Nothing like an ole Johnny Popper. Torquey and almost unstoppable.
Sure sound good too.
❤that sound when she's under load is better than anything 😊
Yeah, they do sound good pulling.
I’ve got a 1947 model A in New Mexico, fixing to convert from 6 volt to 12 then haul it to land that my dad left me to put it to work reviving an over grown with weeds an mesquite field ! This is the same vintage tractor that I learned to plow with about 60 years ago , gonna be a Hoot !!
Awesome!!
Good job, reminds me when I was 11.back in 1952. We had an H until we got a brand spanking new B. We kept the H for the smaller stuff.
Awesome stuff.
During my youth I operated 2 different JD Bs, a 50, and a 730 Diesel. Love those old two-cylinder John Deere tractors.
Unique sound for sure.
I have a 1950 John Deere B, it's a 6 volt POSITIVE GROUND!
Yes, they were. Someone got ahold of this one back in the 80's and made some "improvements" if you can call it that.
On these old cast-iron carburetors pull all the brass plugs out throttle shaft and so on put it in a self cleaning oven and bake it on self clean for about three hours that will bake all the junk in there out turning The junk to powder and you just blow it out then reassemble with a new kit and gaskets and you're good to go and it will run like a top
Love learning stuff like this. Thanks for the info!
As an old JD employee, this is wonderful to see and HEAR! Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good story, I had the pleasure of operating a '55 JD 60 Standard configured tractor with a sweep loader, stacking clover bundles. I was 14 that summer, and wondered how i could be so fortunate to run a brand new JD! Now I have a 1940s? LA. I'm working on the restoration of this tractor with my grandson!
Love those little L's. I just got rid of a LAI Power Unit. Basically the front part of an L tractor. They used them as thresher engines and pump drives.
Working on getting my 1951 A running that I bought last summer, New starter 450.00 New carburetor, 550.00 miscellaneous fuel parts 250.00! Doing it because I love hearing it run not to make money from it! Johnny poper!
That first start and ride will be worth every penny.
Awsome video and the B sounds awesome
Awesome video, as many have said takes me back to child hood & Memories of my grandparents farm they had an A,B ,50 & 60 John deere, love the sound of the old John deere , Thanks for sharing .
Thanks, I'll have more stuff like this in the future. I have quite a collection of old iron.
Johnnie Popper! lol.... it's a beaut.
Thanks!
Where I grew up, they were called "Putt-Putts". Great tractors!
We an A and 2 B's.
1 B had a handcrank flywheel with finger notches. The other had a steering wheel type hand crank. Both had individual cylinder compression releases.
Back-ups for an unresponsive starter/ battery issues.
Those were the good old days!
Yes they were indeed the good old days.
I used to plow for a neighbor with his B. Looong days. 🙂
I'll bet so. Tractors have come a long way. Some of our newer ones are climate controlled, XM radio, air ride. Of course, they break down about twice as often as our old stuff.
boy, my dad had an old B alot like this, im too young to remember it, he sold it a few years after i was born, this one looks exactly like it from the photos ive seen, awesome!
Pretty iconic machines.
Wow does that very bring back good memories when I was a kid back in the earliest fifties my Dad had an old Johnny Paper love to ride and drive it☺️☺️☺️
Love that sound.
Thank you for posting this video. It sure brought back some of my fondest memories.
Glad you enjoyed it
Seemed like all the diecast toy tractors looked like this when I was a kid.
Yeah, I had my share of them back in the day.
Today, I test-drove a 1951 "B" which I am in the process of buying. In 10 days, I should be the proud owner of my own Model B
Congrats!!
Great vid, glad you put that flywheel cover back on !!. Great T shirt, I just retired from Work with Castrol in AUS after 25 years with them . ‘ oils ain’t oils’ 😁
Right on!
Nice! I was more an Oliver guy, but when the New Generation series came out JD finally became a real useable tractor!
Thanks!
I really love those John Deere's My dad bought a new John Deere in 1947 'it was Model AR, it was fun to drive.
Yes, very fun to drive.
Great! Reminds me of my uncle "Tractor Don" Hrabik❤
These things always bring back memories.
i spent many an hour on those johnny poppers. with the blade in the back, i plowed a lot of driveways with that tractor.
Good stuff!!
Thank you...great help for me to get my B going....
Awesome, good luck.
I absolutely love how those sound!
Good stuff, rat durr!!
Appreciate it!
Oh boy. Those are a real chore to change
Yep
@@ProjectTimeGarage I just swapped out one on my A. They get heavier as you get older 😒
@@LedgemereHeritageFarm Boy, ain't that the truth.
Love a Johnny popper
Yeah, me too
@@ProjectTimeGarage Defo love them
Thankyou I just acquired a 1948 john deere b its going to be delivered Friday what you covered with the starter helped me a whole bunch this is the first 2 cyl of the b series I have had all the rest were of the A series thanks so much for the video and thanks for your help
Glad I could help
Awesome video, love those old John’s.
Thanks 👍
We had a well used wide front end B in the early sixties, one of seven tractors we had. One red A, three AC WC orange, one green R, and one Case w a loader.
I loved operating the B. Raking hay, binding oats, hauling wagons, getting the cows in from pasture.
If remember, it was a little under powered for running the baler. We probably used it on the silage blower with its belt capabilities. I know we used one of the WCs for that.
The R did all the heavy lifting.
Thanks for sharing.
Was that R a diesel with a pony motor?
@@ProjectTimeGarage yes. Always a challenge to start. Thanks for asking.
My Grandpa had a 49 john degree. I remember riding on it as a child .. My Dad later on used it on our property . My daughter called the tractor Putt Putt .
Good stuff!!
i am going through the same process right now with my "b".working on this starter has become my pastime.put new brushes and coil field and the tricky soldering to the copper contact.still nothing,now you got me looking at which jaw of jumper cable i was testing with. i know in my heart that one day i will have a eureka moment and the starter will work.good video,even the part where you got another starter after not wasting anymore time on the old one.
Good luck with your starter. They're fairly simple appliances, just not my forte.
Very helpful brought one home just like this that I bought off of a local farmer, he told me it runs but it's been sitting for year, paid 700.00 for it ,thanks for the video
That sounds like a pretty good deal. Those were sure made to last.
I like the sound yes what a beautiful tractor
Very unique sound. Thanks!!
U-Tubers have the strongest JAW muscles on earth.
What makes you say that?
Great....thank you
Thank you too!
I really enjoyed this one.
Glad you enjoyed it
The tool you stick into the center of the flywheel for hand cranking with an extra steering wheel is available from Steiner Tractor supply ,$49. Old steering wheels available on eBay. Hang the steering wheel on the intake stack for emergency cranking. I own a 1951 "A". Great machines. Work safe from Hillsboro NH 🇺🇲ps, now that you have it running and warmed up, change all the oils. Engine, trans, air cleaner, drain water out of the right side primary drive case, refill that with a Qt. of any oil. Now you can let it sit for another 6 years🤣
That's great info. Thank you!!
If there was a hand crank handle that went in the center of the flywheel I never saw one for my father’s “Johnny Popper.” Didn’t know until a couple minutes ago that there might have been one. I recall just grabbing the rim and spinning it.
Nice tractor!
Thanks for the video!
Thank you for watching!!
me again.i put the starter in the tractor and nothing.it worked on the bench and it had power. i ran jumper cables to the starter in the tractor and it worked. finally figured it out.the bolt in the battery box for the GROUND cable was rusty and i cleaned it up.the starter with the all new brushes and coil fields made the starter turn over as fast as a car starter. in the 40 years we owned the tractor it never turned over so good and the john deere "b" has new life. so i am signing off and Merry Christmas to you. it has been nice talking to you. dave
You know, I had that same thing happen on this video, I just didn't have the camera recording. Glad you got it fixed.
Better look again.all my 2 cylinder tractors are POSITIVE ground. My B is 6 volts. 50 yrs experience with these. I still have & use my A, B,& G. Had them & use them since I was 10 yrs old. I'm 68 now
Yeah, you're absolutely right, it was originally a positive ground tractor. Out of the 15 we own, only 3 remain positive ground. Someone changed them way before us on most of them. No idea why people change them, maybe it's just poor understanding, but most got changed the first time the generator went out and they slapped a one-wire GM alternator on it.
I grew up with John Deere tractors and love the old two-cylinder era. Our B had spoked wheels and we started by hand by turning flywheel. Give 'er half throttle, turn on fuel(start on gas in winter and when warmed a little, switch to tractor fuel tank), open petcocks, give it some choke, turn the flywheel, after it fires......take off choke, shut petcocks, switch to tractor fuel(winter) and adjust throttle. Loved it. Best tractors in the world -John Deere!
We have a couple of hand start tractors (John Deere D, Farmall regular, f12) that's pretty much spot on the procedure for starting all of them.
Big old Fly wheel on the one my Brother had . I used to Start it by hand no problem like you described . Used to get my Brother mad seeing I could do it so easy . Big cylinders in those . Never open just one Cock . He had a drum for a Belt on it that powered a Saw that you could bolt in front to cut Fire wood . He had the Saw Mounted one day and was Driving it to a Hedge row . When I looked up I thought Oohh No . Yes great Tractor .
Learnt to drive on one of those and also a Super H!
Good stuff!
❤️❤️❤️❤️🚜 nice wee had a model a
Awesome old iron.
My Brother had a 53 ? It had a Starter and he got an 8 volt Battery ? He always had trouble Starting it and did not have it more than a year . I used to open the Cock valves and spin that big old fly wheel and it would start right up by hand no problem . I liked that Little Tractor ! Thank you for the Video
Glad you enjoyed it!!
used to have a 1952 B looked just like that had 3pt hitch on it used to plow the driveway with the backblade when i was a teen in the 80's
Thanks for sharing!
Yee haw.
The engine that
made America great.
I still love the
Massey I had.
Yep!!!
luckily i don't need my old john deere,but i start it every year and use it to drag trees i cut down or for instance moving my new 10x20 shed.it can do that at an idle.once again,thanks for your video.
👍
starters in the best place to collect alot of crud.
Yep, it all rolls down hill for sure.
The idle jet needs opened a little
Thanks for the info. Also have a lot of comments saying that I may have the wrong carb on it too.
On my 16th birthday my Grandpa bought me a 1949 John Deere A it needs a new carburator and brake's but she runs Nice.
That's a great present. It'll last forever.
They were positive ground
Thanks for the info!
Should be positive ground unless its been converted to a alternator
Thanks Kenny, that's actually a really good point. It's still a generator setup, so it probably should have been positive ground.
You can get a positive ground alternator,have done conversions on a few cubs
there is an emulshion tube that has very fine holes you have to clean, (in the carb)
Yeah, I went through the emulsion tube too. Somewhere I have a set of aircraft drill bits that are really long and about 3/16" diamater. I generally use those to clean out those huge long passages on these DLT/DLTX carbs. Cannot find them for the life of me, though.
My cousins uncle had one of them units. They may sound different when they run but the things are a freak of nature when they are lugging. It's amazing they can stay running when the RPMs run down that low but they just lug and lug POP POP POP. you could hear the damn things from a long way off. I loved the sound but I wasn't a big fan. I found reverse to be to quick and they were jumpy. Kinda dangerous for hooking up equipment even for other tractors of the time. Been around them but never actually ran one. The folks that did liked em though so clearly they had to have had some good points.
Yep, the sound is all its own for sure.
Check your ground at bat and frame oground also ck connector cable ring for corrosion
Good luck
Thanks!!
I have my father's 1941 B. Electric start. Needs new front tires and it's ready to go again.
Cool, front tires are relatively inexpensive (compared to the rears).
I know where two of these old classics are, they are in running condition,
Are you planning to get them?
@@ProjectTimeGarage a friend of mine bought them several years ago, he passed away last year, I don't know what his widow has decided to do with them. One that's running has the narrow front end, the second one has the wide front end on it, and has a spun bearing in the enginr.
@@ProjectTimeGarage in total, the family has three tractors that they are going to sell. Two are late late forties model bees, one is running good shape narrow front end, the second is another model B, it was in the process of being converted to a wide front end but the original narrow front end parts are there, it has a crack in the frame and a spun main bearing so it would be a parts only tractor and also has a Model 60. The model 60 runs but has the clutch out of it at the moment. If you're interested in them let me know and how I can get a hold of you in private to give you the contact information of the family.
I see where the nut goes !
Yeah....gotta love when that happens.
Saw on your channel where you have an 8630. We just bought two 8640s. Both of them have the classic pop out of gear in 1st and 2nd. Besides that, they're good old tractors.
@@ProjectTimeGarage adjust the cables. I'll post it so you know what your doing . It's not to bad
@@josephknapp24 good stuff. Thanks!!
My b I need to get her broke loose and running again. My ol girl (520) gets used regularly to work moms garden, drag logs, pull wrecks out of a couple local demo derbies, a tractor show, put around the house and whatever else. My 520 you need to crank her a little bit before she even tries to pop without any choke. But once she starts popping she is almost running then and no she hates choke and refuses to start with any choke. Been that way for as long as I remember for me even with tractor friend rebuilding carb.
Awesome. These old tractors are reliable, that's for sure.
@@ProjectTimeGarage and simple
Ours had two 6 volt battery’s to make it 12 volt. Thanks
We have a couple of 8640 John Deeres and both of them also have two 6 volt in series for 12 volts.
I keep expecting the screen to flicker every time a spark plug fires, like the TV used to whenever my dad or my uncle had our old Model B running.
You could hear it on AM radio too.
@Larry Butler All tractors of that era did not have resistor plugs or wires that did contribute to the radio interference. Had a Ford 8N and my Dad bought a transistor radio thinking it would be nice to listen to when cultivating. The "ticking" was really irritating.
I had one of those.
Neat old machines.
Yes! My dad restored a B in the 80s, with the spoked ("styled") wheels.
Those spoked wheels look so good!
Also that stub shaft goes into the flywheel. When the tractor starts in kicks the steering wheel out !
lol, that's good. Imagine if it didn't kick out. Super-scary game of catch the steering wheel.!!
Get your contact button from Steiner tractor's better quality parts for old legends like your's
Yeah, Steiner has good stuff. I've been there in person.
Ours didn't have electric start. Open the petcocks start it on the flywheel
Ditto! My dad had a "38 with the flywheel start. I'm not sure what year they started using electric start. The petcocks you referred to were were compression reliefs, which made it easier to spin over. You would close them right after it started. Lots of good childhood memories about that old tractor.
I really should get the hand start adapter for mine.
We had a B for light work like raking hay n straw, spreading fertilizer, the smelly kind, !!! Ha
Nothing sounds like the old 2-cylinders.
The guy that had it apart last time: 😅😂🤣
I know, right?
Yesterday i gave up on the starter.my neighbor came over.we tore apart again,put it back together and what do you know? the starter worked.we didn't change anything,maybe because it was Sunday and we had devine intervention,unbelievable.
I've had stuff like that happen too. It'll drive you nuts. Good you got it working, though!
We had a model L and loved it for plowing our home garden. I think it had a 13' turning radius but not sure about that. Great for cleaning snow off the drive way, too! Loved the sound. Did you get the carb straightened out? Greg
The carb is better, but not 100%. It really needs to come off and have the passages reamed out. Aircraft drill bits work well for that.
The luck I had with starting after it sits for a while? I put the Battery and a charger and that worked for me.. before I get to taking things apart... never trusted them booster boxs
You know, I was kind of against them for the longest time until I was in a heavy truck garage (dump trucks) and they were taking a jump box and starting these tri-axle dump trucks that didn't even have batteries in them. Long story short, I bought one of those. Once I got over the $800 price tag, I've gotten really used to using them. The one I used in the video is a small, commercial box and it does pretty good for general use. Works REALLY good on smaller engines. It beats the snot out of unwinding extension cords.
Looks alot like my '50 B
Pretty similar I'm sure
That’s either a 1947 or a 1952 John Deere Model B. 1952 was the last year they made the Model B so it was sometime in those 5 years.
Seems like I remember looking up the serial number and it being a 52 model. Of course, this was several years ago so my memory is a little foggy way back then.
Those 2 messages earlier were mine. I remembered more the flywheel on the g was exposed. The starter ring was inside the flywheel. I've got a 1954 70. Please bare with me the time frame i'm remembering from is 1955 to 1959. I did get a good look to see if your flywheel had the receiver for the stub shaft or not. I may have a stub shaft, i'll look tomorrow.
Thanks!! I did some digging around over on Yesterdays' Tractors and came across a discussion that shows the page in the manual that covers it, including a picture.. Here's link. www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=jd&th=654378
I just love stuff like this. Obscure and useful as can be!
Have you ever tried berrymans carburetor cleaner it gets the carburetor like brand new inside and out.
Sure have. In fact, I have a 5 gallon pail of Berryman's Chem-Dip. I've slowly stopped using it over the years, though. I've found that on most cast aluminum carbs Pine-Sol works better than anything I've ever used. Plus I can leave gaskets/seals in place if I have to and the Pine-Sol doesn't bother them. Plus it gives the whole shop a nice lemon-y smell. Wife likes it too.
You love them and yet its sinking into the ground. Yeah sure pal.
Yep, 100% correct.
"Of course I am going to use a huge wrench to take it apart"
Because why wouldn't I, right?
"It's a substantial strain on the starter components when you engage a 12 volt battery on it and the burn out after a few starts. Well, duh, that's because it had a 6 volt system.
Nope nope nope. Tractor was converted to 12 volt back in the 90s. So, that starter was 12 volt.
Do you have the stub shaft that goes into the steering wheel? Dad had 1950. G john deere. When battery cables were dirty and would not start the tractor. Dad put the stub shaft in the steering wheel and started the tractor by hand!
No, but someone else was talking about this in the comments. I've never seen one. I have several much older tractors that are hand start only, but I've not seen the steering wheel adapter.
I am 12 and am saving up my money to by a john deere myself looking for something like this. 50,60,a,b,ect.
Awesome! You will learn so much from working on these. You can find them out there pretty inexpensively. Check back in when you get something, we would love to hear about it!!
@@ProjectTimeGarage I just bought a 1952 john Deere a . it runs good brand spanking new tires on the back. lights don't work . all original. $1800
Love these videos, but both sides of the jaw on those jumpers are metal correct? Should not matter which part of the jaw touches the lug as when they are closed they are both carrying juice.
I thought so too, but on cheaper jump packs if you'll look the cable terminates to one side only, and the rest is left up to be carried through the hinges, which corrode and don't carry much of anything. I ended up testing with a test light and that's what I found out
That bolt that fell out of the bendix lever probably left the starter engaged with the flywheel after the engine started and damaged it.
Didn't think about that, but it's a really good point.
@@ProjectTimeGarage what Josh Cardiff said, your starter probably stayed engaged and got deep fried by the engine.
you're probably looking at brush + bearing replacement at a minimum.
@@superdave6889 Yeah, that's exactly what it I ended up doing. The end of the video I was actually using the rebuilt starter. Works like a champ.
What year is this old girl? I think (from the square axles and rear wheels) a '50, 51 or 52. Decal placement looks like it should have been more centered to the front. Sounds good. Thanks for sharing.
'52 I believe. Someone did a restoration back in the late 80's. Been in the dry ever since.
At first I thought your main problem was you had the battery wired backwards. My B model is positive ground.
This one was positive ground when it started life too.
Have a friend who has a slant dash A and I have a slant dash A also. Mine is All-Fuel and his is Gasolene so different manifolds and different breathers. His is positive ground and mine is negative ground. He tried jump starting mine but being used to his tractor he crossed the battery and smoke started rolling out. I was very angry with him.
That should be a 6Volt system on a 1951 B.
Was originally. It got converted back in the late 80's by someone else.
1951 is the last year the B John Deere was made. Ive been using those tractors since 1979.
That old iron sure is reliable. We have a couple of new(er) big tractors that are full of gizmos and electronics. They break all the time.
1952 is the last year…
actually there were '52 B's. '53 was the start od the number series.
How come your B starts so well. All the B’s I’m familiar with. Cranks so very s-l-o-w-l-y. Did you by chance covert it to 12 volt system
It was converted to 12v many many years ago.