REYNOR vs MAXPAX: Grand Final | EPT EU 237 (Bo5 ZvP) - StarCraft 2

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024

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  • @scottbruce7423
    @scottbruce7423 Місяць тому +45

    Spoiler shield

  • @Palpab1e
    @Palpab1e Місяць тому +13

    49:32 is it common for pros to trap units with changelings like that? Reynor boxed in that immortal like it was just caught on To Catch a Predator.

    • @PiGCasts
      @PiGCasts  Місяць тому +9

      only if you have 4000 horsepower hands like Reynor lol, that was an AWESOME move - wish I noticed it in the heat of the moment

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Місяць тому

      It was quite common in ZvZ in Heart of the Swarm, when every game would be either muta vs muta or roach vs roach, if it was roach vs roach, people would wall in with their evo chambers and roach warren at the front, and you could block their natural with a changeling or two, trapping all the roaches inside.
      Same in ZvP where you put a changeling in the natural wall of the Protoss to trap his robo units in his base.

  • @ohmyonionpie
    @ohmyonionpie Місяць тому +5

    "smacks him in the ventral sac" LMAOOOOO 53:00

  • @INS1cells
    @INS1cells Місяць тому +6

    Remember if the Oracle goes back in already with 30 less hit points... nevermind 😂

  • @Spectraltv
    @Spectraltv Місяць тому +8

    What a fantastic series from both players.

  • @PashaSlavaUkraine
    @PashaSlavaUkraine Місяць тому +5

    You know what ? My shrimp is a prawn and I’ll be proud 🥲 of it. Thanks PiG. Your comments during the cast had me laughing 😂 your mad funny dude 😂

    • @gagethornewell7497
      @gagethornewell7497 Місяць тому

      He used to be even funnier than he started to get all politically correct to further his career I guess. Still a good caster but he isn’t what he used to be. He kinda sold out. He’s still good but it’s a little sad.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Місяць тому

      @@gagethornewell7497 UA-cam would demonetize all his videos if he swore. He still does on twitch. Go watch his stream if you want that.

    • @PhoenixCrown
      @PhoenixCrown Місяць тому

      @@gagethornewell7497 I think there's a difference between politically correct and family friendly. PiG is such a knowledgeable caster, more so than any pro because he plays all 3 races, his incredible commentary will carry his content. I don't hear him speaking woke gibberish. He's still funny, even if he swears less.

    • @PhoenixCrown
      @PhoenixCrown Місяць тому

      The Aussies might have it here... I mean we Americans have a thing called "Jumbo Shrimp." That's an oxymoron =P

    • @gagethornewell7497
      @gagethornewell7497 Місяць тому

      @@PhoenixCrown yeah maybe you are right. I guess im just upset, I miss the ol pig. Much more rowdy and inappropriate. Was hilarious thought that was the point of the name PIG. Just a dirty old pig. Oh well. I believe he used to do it just for fun more. I hate mass appeal, not sure if he caters to that nowadays. But id rather have originality than mass appeal any day. Still an amazing caster, but used to be just hilarious to watch his vids. Telling clem to wasteban it.

  • @PhoenixCrown
    @PhoenixCrown Місяць тому +1

    AWESOME matchup. MaxPax is so fun to watch, and Reynor clearly added studying his opponent to his always fantastic APM micro macro =)

  • @TheCaptainDamage
    @TheCaptainDamage Місяць тому +1

    47:00
    PiG: I shouldnt swear this offen man, there are children around.
    Also PiG 10 sec later: Damn Hydras are good😂

    • @PiGCasts
      @PiGCasts  Місяць тому +1

      wait "damn" is considered a swear word?

    • @just-some-menace6138
      @just-some-menace6138 Місяць тому

      @@PiGCasts In some parts of the world. I'm sure you've heard the synonym of swearing as "cursing". saying Damn is a curse in the literal sense as traditionally you're implying a "God Damn it" in there.

  • @mattevans8090
    @mattevans8090 Місяць тому +3

    I'm going to use the shrimp/prawn logic with zerg units. zergling/flying zergling/big zergling/ranged zergling/ burrowed shooting zergling/ goopey zergling

  • @BukovTervicz
    @BukovTervicz 13 днів тому +1

    1:05:13 So satisfying

  • @irrelevantfish1978
    @irrelevantfish1978 Місяць тому

    Quick FYI: "ventral" refers to being on the lower, frontal, and/or belly area of something. Upgrading an Overlord's ventral sacs to make a Dropperlord makes sense. Smacking a dude in his ventral sac means punching him in the junk.

  • @331Bdubs
    @331Bdubs Місяць тому +1

    Great series, last game was wild and tragic

  • @liebe6997
    @liebe6997 Місяць тому

    holy shitt what a 5th game!! friggin awesome!!

  • @foxling
    @foxling Місяць тому

    What a game! Thanks PiG! Love your commenary ♥

  • @BukovTervicz
    @BukovTervicz 14 днів тому

    Zerg balance state: stuck defending from behind all early game. But if you manage to survive, it balances out because... oh wait, you're ALSO unfavored in end game battles
    Brilliant balance!

  • @liebe6997
    @liebe6997 Місяць тому

    havent finished the last video yet but reynor and maxpax is a matchup i cant walk by!

  • @CasualGuidesRS3
    @CasualGuidesRS3 Місяць тому

    Felt good to see this result

  • @Liveeruptsuj
    @Liveeruptsuj Місяць тому

    I wonder if BeastyQT pats himself on the back now and then when he checks up on how great MaxPax is these days. He should, I watched all those episodes where he was 2v2 ing with MaxPax and he consistently focused on advice and critique.

  • @jkkim6928
    @jkkim6928 Місяць тому +1

    Last game shows why Hero is Maxpax’s hero

    • @WolfgangGaming-xq5rm
      @WolfgangGaming-xq5rm Місяць тому

      Maxpax is so much cleaner than Hero is. His issue is that in a long series he doesn’t have as much variability and tends to get exposed strategically. Hero on the other hand is a loose cannon; the Dark of Protoss. Maxpax is closer to a Serral type Protoss.

    • @jkkim6928
      @jkkim6928 Місяць тому

      @@WolfgangGaming-xq5rm chill. The joke referred to no wall off at the natural

  • @madeinresitasometimeago3970
    @madeinresitasometimeago3970 Місяць тому

    Questions:
    1. Can protos block second and third base with a pilon and the probe? Is it worth it?
    2. Can zerg burrow 4 banelings in the forth base mineral line before fourth is done and clear an entire mineral line once the base is saturated?

    • @PiGCasts
      @PiGCasts  Місяць тому +5

      1. - they can, not worth it, zerg can just build a macro hatch next to the natural base location whilst making lings to clear it and then add a 3rd hatchery on the correct location and they just get a macro hatch for free whilst toss build is very delayed. They also can just take their OTHER 3rd base option unless you block all 3 bases.
      2. The banes are unlikely to clear the whole mineral line, could get scouted by observer etc. before they get a chance to be used. The real problem though is actually just opportunity cost - getting burrow and 4 banelings minutes ahead of time for the potential payoff just isn't a reliable bet. You'll only really see this move when the zerg already has burrow + banes in ZvT and does an attack and in the middle of it decides to leave a few behind in the mineral line, hoping the Terran doesn't notice in the chaos.

    • @madeinresitasometimeago3970
      @madeinresitasometimeago3970 Місяць тому

      @@PiGCasts Thank you!
      1. The initial idea is to block the zerg's economic scale growth with the natural and third location blocked. Maybe a nexus first opening could work. Would love to see protos players reconquering Aiur.
      2. Watching Dark have learned that chaos and killer instinct can achieve great success.
      Burrow can be combined with roaches tunneling ability and hit all the three/four mineral lines. It could lead to a new type of game where prioritizing detection in every game vs zerg will become standard play.

  • @GianniCampanale
    @GianniCampanale Місяць тому +2

    that early drone micro should be a must to do for every pro

  • @alviworld
    @alviworld Місяць тому

    as an economist that has done the math, i always feel bad when my favorite players have one of their first 16 workers just going from one mineral to the other without mining. it is SO SO bad, we are talking about 10 to 25 second delay in the mid game if the worker bounces more than 5 times. seeing Maxpax microing his probes so he gets a 25 mineral boost is incredible, there is literally nothing better to do in the early game, we get some pros just spaming hotkets and camera locations but max is honoring his name maximizing his income. this generates a very big snowball efect, you could have your whoracle 4 or 5 seconds earlier, that is a lot, you kill 2 extra workers and at that level is already gg. oponent doesnt even know what he did wrong. well you didnt micro your first 16 units.

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Місяць тому

      most pro players do micro their starting workers though, its literally one of the first things you have to learn to do properly if you want to be good at the game.

    • @alviworld
      @alviworld Місяць тому

      @@TheSuperappelflap not even close to be true. i´ve seen gsl finals where one drone just bounces around like an idiot

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Місяць тому

      @@alviworld yeah maybe if you ever played a gsl final you would be nervous too. but you wont.

  • @jonghokim7857
    @jonghokim7857 Місяць тому

    Wow incredible series

  • @ComradeSulomon
    @ComradeSulomon Місяць тому

    The most efficient macro is essentially doing greed then all-in then greed and so on.

  • @Coldev-io
    @Coldev-io Місяць тому

    MaxPax always good with his stasis traps

  • @calvyoel1515
    @calvyoel1515 Місяць тому

    So, u can't stack lurkers in sc2?

  • @keithfinch1053
    @keithfinch1053 Місяць тому

    Yeah Pig you legend... from South Africa 🇿🇦 Why do they call them prawns? Cause they look like prawns.

  • @MetroidCannonBall
    @MetroidCannonBall Місяць тому

    Gg

  • @liebe6997
    @liebe6997 Місяць тому

    i love the swearing! im sry =D u do it a charming way imo! =D

  • @alexisvelasco7543
    @alexisvelasco7543 Місяць тому

    2nd Present!

  • @TheSuperappelflap
    @TheSuperappelflap Місяць тому

    "New maps"? How old are these games? This map has been out for months.

    • @PiGCasts
      @PiGCasts  Місяць тому

      This is from just a few days ago, it was up here within 48 hours of being played live. It's a 70 minute cast so I can't remember what part you're referencing throw a timestamp next time so I can give context/explain

    • @TheSuperappelflap
      @TheSuperappelflap Місяць тому

      @@PiGCasts during the first map, you said it was a new map and the strategies hadn't been figured out yet or something. People figured out months ago that taking the gold base second as zerg isnt viable, especially agains maxpax. I'm pretty sure you casted several of those yourself.

  • @MrAirstriek
    @MrAirstriek Місяць тому

    3rd reporting in

  • @user-xk8mq5ic9k
    @user-xk8mq5ic9k Місяць тому

    Only females ever think of Edward Sizzyhands. Just sayin.

  • @Asianhalfling
    @Asianhalfling Місяць тому +1

    one day zerg will get an early air harass.

    • @brianmings4011
      @brianmings4011 Місяць тому +3

      Dude they literally start with an air unit and send it straight across the map. As a Protoss I find it incredibly harassing.

    • @nooonanoonung6237
      @nooonanoonung6237 Місяць тому

      Just play Toss if you want it that bad =.=

  • @kentoylampingasan
    @kentoylampingasan Місяць тому

    Fiiifth!!!😊

  • @mavis4299
    @mavis4299 Місяць тому

    Holy crap I’m first

  • @adminsaify
    @adminsaify Місяць тому

    Gg